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Military support for the republican candidates

NAME: TOTAL [ARMY] [NAVY] [AIRFORCE] [VETERAN] [USMC**]

RON PAUL: 24,965 [6,975] [6,765] [4,650] [5,075] [1,500]
MoneyMcCain: 17,475 [6925] [6305] [1795] [800] [1600]
Romney: 3,551 [2,051] [0] [1500] [0]
Giuliani: 2,320 [1,450] [370] [250] [250]
Hunter: 1000 [0] [1000] [0]
Huckabee: 750 [250] [0] [500]
Tancredo: 350 [350] [0] [0]
Brownback: 71 [71] [0] [0]
Thompson: 0 [0] [0] [0]

Units are contributions in dollars by employees of the respective military organizations.

Source: Finance Reports for the 2007 July Quarterly.

Percentages**:

49.5% Ron Paul
34.6% McCain
7.0% Romney
4.6% Giuliani
2.0% Hunter
2.3% Others

*Note: These statistics include the contributions of employees who recorded or indicated their military branch. Contributions where no employer was specified were naturally not included.

**Edit: McCain and Ron Paul have USMC contributions which were overlooked. Their totals have been corrected. (7/17/07)

Update: Ron Paul leads ALL presidential candidates in monetary military contributions.

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July 16th, 2007 Posted by eaglescout | 2008 Election, Truth | 223 comments

223 Responses to “Military support for the republican candidates”

  1. This is the data we’ve been needing!!! This puts the lie to all the corporate shills on talk radio and deluded people in the churches who supposedly think this war is a favor to God and Israel. Wrong ! It is about, as Henry Kissinger, George H. W. Bush, and Gary Hart have observed, about starting a “New World Order.”

  2. Go Ron Paul! He’s a total sleeper. Watch out America.

  3. Ron is the real voice of America, we need a person like this.

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  5. Nice work! Very interesting. I figured McCain would get the top.

    Who is that nice young man in uniform?:
    http://www.rescue-us.org/index.htm

  6. Digg and comment on this article on Digg!!

    http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Ron_Paul_is_the_US_Military_s_1_Choice

  7. Any contributions under $200 are not compiled here.

    Presumably if these contributions were known it would widen the gap Ron Paul has received even further!

  8. Can someone please send this to Hannity?

  9. […] to TheSpinFactor, Ron Paul has the largest support from people actually affiliated with the military.  This is to […]

  10. Excellent find! Great work! Go Ron Paul!

  11. For those that don’t know, McCain is apparently bankrupt, and Ron Paul is gaining more and more support. I hope he will keep gaining support, and wipe Rudy’s pro war/pro holocaust platform off the face of the earth. I can’t wait to start seeing ads from this man. And I have to wonder, what kind of soldiers are supporting republican candidates who are pushing the war? I would have to guess only the extremely misguided ones.

  12. I don’t think that this really has much to do with the military. It’s just more proof that Ron’s is a grassroots campaign. I wonder what percentage of contributers making less than, say, $30,000 gave their money to Paul?

  13. […] the latest finance reports, The Spin Factor broke down the donations from the Army, Navy, Air Force, and among Veterans (their figures do not include the Marines, which […]

  14. […] það minnsta ef eitthvað er að marka fjárframlög hermanna til frambjóðenda. TheSpinFactor hefur farið í gegn um skýrslur allra forsetaframbjóðenda repúblíkanaflokksins og tekið […]

  15. For what it’s worth, it appears there was $500 donated from employees of the ‘USMC,’ according to the FEC data. Go ahead and throw that up on the board too. Semper Fi.

    Strange, but my employer is not listed and I made 3 small personal contributions during the quarter. Has anyone else checked to see if theirs are listed?

    Peace be with you.

  16. I checked and my employer isn’t listed either. Not sure why.

  17. Ron Paul is the furthest right wing Texas Republican I have ever seen. He is anti-gay,anti choice, he is against seperation of church and state. He went as far as to say he believes the goverment has the right to regulate sex! He believes gays sould be imprisoned. He also says the constitution does not probide for the right to privacy.

    He is a vote for the church and total goverment control. No more Texas Republicand that hate so many americans. No more Rove diividers. We need a good leader. Ron Paul is bad for America.

  18. wow, paul (#17 above), you are severely misled. everything you said is the complete antithesis of what ron paul is about.

  19. What does “Veteran” mean in this data? To my knowledge people do not report of they previously served in the military.

  20. Let me challenge this data for a moment. I do NOT recall providing anything about military status when I donated money to Ron Paul’s campaign. In fact, when I visit his web site now to donate, I see no question by which the kind of assessment alleged here could have been made.

    Furthermore, this site says its source is the Finance Reports for the 2007 July Quarterly, but when I click the link and read the report, I see nothing about branch of military service. NOR do I see the number of contributors (I do see dollars contributed [by zip, by date, etc.]), which is what this site purports to know.

    What am I missing?

  21. Ron Paul has my vote AND I AM GOING TO SEND HIM A HUNDRED BUCKS. We need to put our money where our mouth is in order to get the word out!

  22. lowell, by law you have to report your employer for any contribution above 200$

    this information is then made public.

  23. This shows me that our troops want to come home. Let’s help them by voting for Ron Paul in the Primaries if your state has one. I have and will donate to his campaign as well as volunteer.

  24. >”Ron Paul is the worst candidate ever. He hates gays he hates the domocrats, he hates any non-christians.”

    Dr. Paul wants to withdraw from Iraq. If he hates non-Christians, wouldn’t he want to stay and continue the slaughter?

    >”Why do we want someone to divide us again.”

    Dr. Paul is a uniter. By advocating true freedom and liberty, Paul allows rally around a cause that we can all agree with.

    >” Another Texas Republican.”

    Dr. Paul ran as the Libertarian Presidential candidate in ‘88 and is unlike many Republicans. He regularly goes against his party on votes. This earned Dr. Paul the nickname “Dr. No.’”

    “This guy would let the goverment regulate everything (even sex). Do politians really need to regulate sex? I think I can run my family and do not need Ron Paul and his religion telling me how to live. A 72 old Bigot with right wing views.”

    This is complete malarky. If anything Ron Paul would allow prostitution! Take a look at the recent Candidates@Google interview for the evidence. Of course, this will probably not happen in today’s world but your comment is 180 degrees out of line with what Ron Paul and like minded libertarians believe.

    >”He says we do not need seperation of church and state.”

    This is absolutely false.

  25. Fred@24,

    You seem to suffering from a lack of oxygen to your brain.

    You know, it might help your situation if you pulled your head out of your ass. Just beware the “pop”.

  26. Fred,
    are you just trying to get more people to talk about Ron in positive light, because everything you say, is the total opposite of who RP is?

    some may think this is a good tactic, but it really isn’t.

    just show your support and send a donation.

    Michael

  27. […] From this blog you can see the statistics for each branch of the armed services. […]

  28. I dont like the way he wants religion in goverment and he is too far to the right. Any person who expresses dislike with so many people is not a good leader. We need someone to unite us and lead.

    No more Bush, Ron Paul or Cheney.

    We need a change.

  29. I am with you Mike. We do not need religion in goverment. I am for religous freedom but do not like his in your face with religion stance. Ron Paul has a horrible record on the enviroment too.

    Too much state run goverment. He supports ordinaces on everything from sex to privacy.

    Ron Paul is a typical Texas Republican.

    No thanks.

  30. Your Darn right, and if the other 48% of us were not deployed we would be giving to Ron Paul too. Thats because we dont get the Ron Paul media from False (FOX) News or Commy NN …

  31. This breakdown of contributors confirms what is already know, and that is that the most educated and politically savvy military people are in the Navy and Air Force, not the army or marines. But I am very glad to see that all branches of the military support Ron Paul over any of the other candidates.

  32. Where are you mouth breathers getting this shit? He is not against seperation of church and state, he is not anti gay, and he certainly isn’t anything like Bush or Cheney.

    What you people (mike, fred, and whoever else) are saying is the exact opposite of what Ron Paul stands for.

  33. Who is the morons calling Dr. Paul a right winger? He said he support gay marriage in the Google interview and he believes in letting the State’s decide on abortion. He’s against the “War on Drugs,” is that a right wing position? LOL stupid neo cons

    VOTE RON PAUL 2008!

  34. […] [link][more] […]

  35. I’m a life-long democrat that will be voting for Ron Paul. He is the epitome of a uniter and you couldn’t be more wrong. More and more I am realizing there is something wrong with the whole system and I don’t trust Obama/Clinton/Edwards or any other politician to fix this mess. We need a true statesman. His personal values may be rural, but the entire point of his campaign his HE DOESN’T HAVE THE RIGHT TO FORCE THEM ON YOU. Let the important social issues be resolved at the local level.

  36. jackson, link to it or shut the hell up

  37. To #37[Deleted Ignorant Comment about Ron Paul], you and the other replies like yours are what scare me. I don’t know how our country will ever flourish if people like you are in the majority.

  38. err…what happened to #37…now im number 37!

  39. Link it. Right now. Why should I believe you when every single thing I’ve read or seen from him says the opposite?

  40. After reading the reports it occurs to me that I see a lot of “support our troops” ribbon decals on cars and in windows. Yellow ribbons are abundant on trees and poles everywhere. If our troops are supporting Ron Paul with not only their money, but also their blood and lives, then the least we the american peole can do to support troops, is to put Ron Paul in the White House. If you didn’t have enough reasons before to vote for Ron Paul, this should be the ONLY one anyone really needs.

    God Bless our Troops and Honor THEM by voting for Ron Paul!

  41. Google two things one is his piece titled “war on religion”

    the other is about gays and sodomy where he says the state does have the power to regulate sex.

  42. I glad to see even the military has enough respect for Ron Paul to be their commander in chief.
    In addition this is still The United States of America,and the last time I checked The Bill of Rights is still in effect.Ron Paul is a citizen and entitled to to his right to free speech.
    Congratulations Ron.
    Gary Gold
    Shaker Hts.Ohio

  43. […] with regards to fund raising, but what type of person is contributing to him? It looks like active duty military personel and veterans are contributing heavily to him–more than the other Republican candidates combined. Maybe […]

  44. I’m not so sure that this report is entirely true. The reason that I say this is that I donated money to Dr. Paul’s campaign (online). There is no question about vetran status. I am a vetran - I donated - there’s no way that the FEC knows this.

    How did you come up with the vetran numbers? I didn’t find ANY of this information on the FEC website.

  45. People, keep the money flowing to Ron Paul!!! Ron Paul 2008!!!!!

  46. […] but the donations that are reported by each political candidate include the source of the funds. TheSpinfactor has tallied this support for the Republican presidential candidates, separating donations from the […]

  47. Jackson, I read both articles and even as an Agnostic and pro-gay rights citizen I feel you overreacted to them. The one on religion doesn’t say anything about any crusade to unite church and state throughout the country, merely a reaction to the political correctness of secularists concerning christmas. The one on gay rights doesn’t contradict what I know Ron Paul to stand for either. All he was saying was that if Texas doesn’t want to recognize Gay marriage it shouldn’t have to. Again, he’s not talking about any kind of crusade against gay rights. If California wants them there’s no way he’d not allow them. It’s a policy that makes a lot of sense. If you were gay would you want to live in Texas anyway?

  48. Mike / citydweller / Jackson are the same person.
    –> Disinformation agents.

  49. disinfo/smear agent technique #42

    “post blatantly false information to derail debate/dialogue into proving you wrong. Once proven wrong, continue with new false information. Repeat as necessary.”

    just ignore them, they’re paid to do this.

  50. Dr. Paul is a strict Constitutionalist. If you read the article http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul120.html you will see he is upset because the Constitution has left these types of things to the states to regulate, NOT the federal government. Enough of that - let’s talk about what is important - 1. Get out of Iraq/stay out of Iran 2. Repeal the Patriot Act 3. Stop the printing of money that we don’t have (Fed reserve). 4. Stop the federal government from stealing our money (IRS) 5. Get a full impartial investigation of all the Shenanigans that got us here - starting with 9/11. Who else is calling for this other than RP?

  51. You are an extremely poor judge of character, Jackson. You take a couple articles you clearly didn’t have the comprehension to fully understand and because he’s a “republican from Texas” come to some half-baked conclusion that he’s Bush II or worse. The reason your posts were deleted is because they were completely untrue and idiotic, not because they were against Ron Paul. There are decent arguments against him that I’ll listen too, but yours isn’t one of them.

  52. Get busy helping patriots to win a place on the ballot for Ron Paul. Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate of either party who has both opposed Bush’s insane war from the start AND has sought to secure our borders from the immigration invasion. If you want Mexicans to stay in Mexico, and American soldiers to stay in America with their families rather than warring for Israel and the Neocon Democrats and Republicans….get busy volunteering for the Ron Paul Revolution. You can join one of over 520 Ron Paul Meetup groups at www.meetup.com .

  53. Why isn’t Rudy called Giuliani? No reason for him to be labeled differently than everyone else…

  54. Thanks for putting those numbers together EagleScout.

    Jamie Kelso’s comment #52 has a link that doesn’t work. The proper link is http://RonPaul.MeetUp.com - for some reason your period got caught in the link. ;)

    Go Ron Go!

  55. It is obvious people are trying to spread mis-information. I cannot work out why, it only creates discussion and makes people look deeper into Ron Paul and boosts his popularity.

    A quick visit to Wikipedia is all people need now days for a quick dose of the truth…

    Save America, help Ron Paul.

  56. […] yes, but Ron Paul won’t really have arrived until the sort of soft-core porn* web-video maverns who […]

  57. RE: Poster #7

    “Any contributions under $200 are not complied here. Presumably if these contributions were known it would widen the gap Ron Paul has received even further!”

    HAHHAHA Keep dreaming. How far do you think Ron Paul can stretch that $100 “No Employer Was Supplied” donation? You guys are a sad, sad bunch celebrating worthless, phony numbers. (Here’s a clue: Obama is #3 without including “veterans” and has $11,600,000 in “no employer specified” donations while Ron Paul has only $100 and McCain has only $2,000,000). What kind of gap do you think would be left after that?)

  58. NASCAR is solidly behind Giuliani…

  59. WOW! #17…Who pay’s you to write such utter tripe? Ron Paul is the only choice for America! If anybody else is elected, you can kiss you freedom loving @$$ and this country goodbye…or should I say adios…?

    Peace!

  60. Hey #8… Done! ;-)

  61. […] The source for the military donations question is here. by Kavon W. Nikrad @ 9:10 am. Filed under 2008 Misc.   [Trackback […]

  62. #53 they should use his proper gangsta name Rudy G.

  63. #20 did the form not ask for your employer?

  64. Are “No Employer Was Supplied” soft money donations?

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  66. […] Posted by FishHead link please…. Here’s your Link, Lancelot Raw Data in case you want to re-crunch the numbers __________________ "You know (Hecklers) […]

  67. I really do not like his extreme religion and anti gay bias.
    I will not vote for another texas republican that insists on dividing america. We need a leader for all the people.

    Reliogion is great but not in goverment

  68. I didn’t know Ron Paul was preaching religion! I am Jewish and there’s nothing about what Dr. Ron Paul says which makes me think he’s a evangelizing zealot like King George the Third.

    I have been married to my wife for 15 years but I support Dr. Paul’s statce that states Not the USA should define marriage. I am actually in favor of Gay Unions - Zero unwanted pregnancies, and all the legal repurcussions of divorce. Why should Gay people get off scott free? I say “MAKE THEM” get married!

  69. […] following, though the $2.3 million he raised still has him trailing far behind the front runners. But a closer look at the reports reveals a less obvious but more remarkable development–the antiwar Republican received nearly 50% […]

  70. Clinton didn’t get anything…puulease.

    Fake!

  71. #67 says “Reliogion is great but not in goverment”.

    He couldn’t have expressed Dr. Paul’s opinion on that any better.

  72. Actually although Paul wants religion out of the federal goverment, he advocated religion to have full force at the state level. You could lose every right you thought you had. He promotes churches in prisoning people for acts in their own bedroom and says the state does not owe you the right of privacy. This is a big gamble. Trading fed for state and increasing goverment in our lives is the wrong direction.

    He is too far right. I will go for Rudy. More middle of the road.

  73. […] has the link to this data detailing how much the Republican candidates are getting donated from individuals in the military […]

  74. There is no middle of the road.

    Either you are a candidate controlled by the international banking cartel (including the Federal Reserve)…

    or you are Ron Paul.

  75. #74 You mean either you are controlled by evalgelicals like Ron Paul or you will vote for real change.

  76. UNITER-DIVIDER
    If you’re either if you’re or; you’re just be’n will’n bitches for the DECIDER.
    Son. This is fascist lengua you crazy bitches! Yo. Son.

    (God, I hate you everytime I think of the bullshit I put up with in highschool, but I know it was the zombified slaves of Satan that created those fence enclosed mind-ovens. In you benificent light, please, deliver us from evil, RON PAUL ‘08! The American!)

  77. This make Rush Limbaugh and Sean hannity LIARS!

    Dr. Ron Paul champion of the constitution!
    U N S T O P P A B L E !

  78. […] following percentages of presidential campaign donations to Republican candidates was calculated by TheSpinFactor.com using the July 2007 Finance Reports: 52.5% Ron Paul 35.4% McCain 7.9% Romney 5.2% Giuliani 2.2% […]

  79. Ron Paul absolutely does not support ordinances having to do with sex or anything else. You “liberals” commenting on here need to do some homework beyond the MoveOn.org talking points. Dr. Paul is a true liberal in every sense of the word. Legalize everything, let the federal government do nothing… now we’re talking!

    Social security, medicare, medicaid - does anyone really want to argue that these programs A.) work; B.) are sustainable; and C.) will not bankrupt the next generation? Wake up!

    the last thing he is is an Evangelical… read, read, read… look at his voting record in the House

    Paul in ‘08!

  80. #75

    Evangelical?

    Now that’s funny. Get informed please. Thank you. I love you.

  81. You can see on those reports who the ‘employer’ of the donor is - but note the top of the report where the ‘no employer listed’ figures are.

    If you’re crowing about Paul’s numbers here, you’re deluded, haha. Check those reports a bit closer. You’re truly grasping at straws on this one, guys.

    Rudy Guiliani, contributions not attributed by employer; $2.667M
    John McCain, contributions not attributed by employer; $2.207M

    Ron Paul, contributions not attributed by employer; $100.

    All this report shows is that Paul’s people are better at attributing money by category.

    Crow on, guys. Crow on.

    Hehe.

  82. TAMMY, CITYDWELLER,AND PAUL ARE THE SAME PERSON! PAID POLITICAL OPERATIVES SPREADING MISINFORMATION! IF you have to lie, what does that say about your candidate. You make me sick.

    RON PAUL 2008!
    FREEDOM IS POPULAR!

  83. #70: Which Republican presidential candidate is named Clinton? Sheesh.

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  85. I wouldn’t be surprised if Ron Paul was leading in the national polls. The U.S. government and the media work hate the American people and they lie to and deceive the public everyday

  86. Ron Paul is America’s best hope! It will be dificult for him to get elected because the media and Diebold control the elections. We need to take back America and do what we can to get him elected.

  87. […] Paul has a staggering 52.53 percent of all military contributions. Here’s the data: […]

  88. Tammy

  89. For those confused or upset with Dr. Paul’s position on issues, feel free to jump to this link to read his policy statements (which are in American, not legalese non-answers).

    http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/

    Sure, I don’t agree with him 100% but he’s closer (by far and away closer) than any other candidate or RINO Fred T.

  90. Whoops! Turns out someone here forgot to look a little closer at the data!

    http://alendalux.blogspot.com/2007/07/military-money-or-time-andrew-sullivan.html

  91. These numbers do not have any zeros behind them. In other words they are so small as to be meaningless. Speaking of “meaningless”, his mantra of freedom amd liberty mean nothing until he can speak to real life complex issues with it. Paul is enjoying his 15 mins of martyrdom. But I love him in a Ralph Nader sorta way

  92. Keep it up Ron Paul, I will be praying for your success, We The People desperately need a leader like yourself to run this country at this time.

  93. per Andrew site…

    “if we’re going to infer anything from these numbers, it’s that John McCain would beat Paul 55-23 [military donators (not donations)]. That would mean the military is still in favor of aggressively pursuing victory in the war.

    But can you infer anything about the opinions of the military by these contributions? Of course not - it’s taking an opinion poll of 78 people. It means absolutely nothing.”

    I wouldn’t say it is nothing. My statistical class said a small sampling can be pretty effective in establishing probability.

    This may not be super-fantastic stat for RP, but it is a good stat. The media has been saying that RP is not in touch with the war…but a substantial number of soldiers are donating for RP; in fact, they are out-donating soldiers for other candidates.

    So not only is there a substantial *quantity* of RP-supporting soldiers, the *quality* of donations is fantastic…perhaps, a desperate plea to get the fvck out.

  94. I was listening to one of the conservative radio pundits saying that Ron Paul would not be his candidate because he (Ron Paul) doesn’t think we should be fighting in wars…..No one wants wars, but if faced with a real direct danger of an attack on our soil, I am sure he would be a real commander-in-chief and protect our nation as our constitution allows.

    That is the key, what does our Constitution say?…All of our elected leaders are using it as a floor mat to make clearly un-lawful acts to meet their needs and to further the NWO agenda.

  95. It matters not to me that he is Republican or a Democrat. What matters is that he is not bought or sold by any lobbyist, that he has been consistent in the reasoning of his votes and they are based on whether a bill is Constitutional or not! That his only allegiance is to our Constitution and due process of Law and nothing else! That is what INTEGRITY is! When we look in history for those statesmen for whom we have the greatest respect and love towards, it was because their hearts and conscience were gravely aligned with the brevity of their decisions. This is why I love Representative Ron Paul. He imbodies the very spirit and letter of our founding fathers’ intentions to serve and protect this Celestial Document from enemies foreign and DOMESTIC! I will not only vote for this man and what he represents, but I will also go out and do what I can to support his campaign. Finally, a statesman I can truly support with my heart and my conscience!

  96. […] the link to the Spin Factor Website with the more detailed analysis of donations from members of the military to GOP candidates.  […]

  97. Ron Paul is, in my opinion, a fraud. Do the math. He pretends he is an outsider but he has been in Washington too long. Part of his “bait and switch” platform is saying he is against the war in Iraq but being for a national sales tax. What, you ask? Well, Ron Paul wants to give the top 20% that own 95% of all the wealth in the US a total income tax break. Who do you think gets hurt the worst by a national sales tax? Everyone except the rich!! When they finish off the rest of America’s middle class with free trade (which Ron Paul is for) and temporary worker visas, we the forgotten & soon to be eliminated middle class will all be enslaved. And how do you collect that sales tax? A national ID card with the “mark of the beast?”

    You can’t just buy the pretty package, you have to unwrap it and look inside to see what you’re really getting. It’s multi-dimentional.

  98. Vote Ron Paul and you cast a vote for a constitutional Republic. Only man for the job.

  99. I’m one of those countless (former?) Republican’s who stayed away from the polls in 2006. If the Republican Party doesn’t decide to choose Ron Paul in 2008…I’ll be going a step further in 2008. I’ll be voting for Hillary…my God I hate her with a passion. Ron Paul is America’s LAST chance…

  100. I WAS HARD CORE DEMOCRAT UNTIL RON PAUL WE ARE WORKING IN CLEARWATER FLORIDA EXTRA HARD TO BE THE LARGEST SUPPORT GROUP IN AMERICA BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN RON PAUL HE IS THE BEST SINCE ROSEVELT HE DO SENT NEED THE ZIONESTS MONEY LIKE HILLARY AND RUDY HE HAS AMERICA AND HIS WORD IS SPREADING LIKE WILD FIRE SO KEEP ON SUPPORTING AMERICAS #1 CHOICE FOR PRESIDENT YOU KNOW HIS NAME RON PAUL

  101. #94: We are under attack (the Federal Reserve)…and only Ron Paul is talking about it, has been fighting it, and would eliminate it if President…at great risk (Lincoln, Garrison, McFadden, Kennedy, Jackson).

    #97: Check out HIS RECORD. It *IS* hard to believe, but he is the real deal. PLEASE check it out.

    #99: Ron Paul isn’t our last hope, but he is a rare golden opportunity. Hmmm, with the North American Union at our throats, perhaps he is our last hope.

    But Hillary? No. If RP is not a presidential candidate, everyone should take the whole election day off and buy a gun…that’ll get their attention.

    BTW: The New World Order is being funded by our debt. Get out of debt…and question the income tax!

  102. If anything ‘unusual’ happens to silence Ron Paul… We will be left with no other recourse than that which our founding fathers took against their King George.

  103. short and tall, big and small, ron paul fits em all. go ron-buddy!!

  104. I just posted a much expanded version of this on my blog at http://phreadom.blogspot.com/2007/07/ron-paul-is-most-financially-military.html

    Credit given in the article. :) Thanks.

  105. I am a registered democrat.. but after hearing Ron Paul.. I am voting for him!

  106. […] we reported Ron Paul’s military contributions among Republican presidential candidates that placed him on top at 49.5%, with nearly as much as all Republicans […]

  107. I’d be willing to vote for Paul. As soon as I figure out what he stands for.

  108. No more wars for Israel, Crush AIPAC (unregistered lobbyist for a foreign gov’t), CLOSE the borders, Ignore the Neocons death gasps as they post FALSE info about RON PAUL in here, bury the IRS, and SLAM the door on the (non) Federal Reserve.
    REMEMBER THE U.S.S. LIBERTY!!!!!!!!

  109. #101.

    Great idea. If Ron Paul is forced out, everyone should buy a gun! That is an awesome idea. And it would catch the attention of the politicians as well as prepare for the next step which would be justified at that point…

    Motto: “Ron Paul or buy a gun! Either way we’ll get er done.”

    Everyone is a soldier for true democracy. If you do not believe that, you have no business in this country. Some benefit from the freedom as long as they don’t have any risk or cost. Such people suck the system dry and have bsolutely no integrity. Life is full of risk. And the cost associated with the principles of democracy are one of them. Nothing in life is free. Not even freedom. It must be earned. Each generation must pay its dues in risk and sacrifice to uphold the rights, liberties and freedom for themselves and their neighbors.

    The greatest values in life are found in the greatest challenges. We have an impressive challenge before us. The question is, will you rise or run from it?

    Ron Paul or buy a gun. Either way we’ll get er done!

    Ken Boettger
    Ellensburg, WA

  110. Separation of church and state? There’s no such thing in the US. That’s from the Soviet constitution. Read it! The Supreme Court in 1879 ruled that this a Christian country in Holy Trinity Church vs. the US. Educate yourselves. Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate with the guts to support the US Constitution unlike Bush who said it was “just a G–Damn piece of paper.

  111. I support Ron Paul because he receives no $ from lobbyists or special interest groups. He believes in small gov’t not federal large buracracies. He voted against the iraq war, voted against Patriot Act. Would abolish the Federal Reserve & IRS. Would restore soverignty to our country. Would bring back our currency to be backed by gold/silver standards. He is also for decriminalizing pot. And has a non-intervention policy for foreign affairs. Ilike the non-intervention policy for home use also :) He also is against the Real Id act.

    I like RON PAUL!

  112. Dr. Ron Paul is the man to lead his people to freedom, go Ron we love ya.

  113. So many MORONS keep on parrotting the same falsehoods about Ron Paul being anti-gay or mixing religion and state.

    I am Australian and know these are complete lies. PAUL is the most libertarian, yet true republican candidate at the same time. It seems you fools who keep parrotting the lies, the latest being Samantha, are incapable of reading anything. Why don’t you stop babbling your patent falsehoods and actually look at the references people have given you? What makes you persist in telling things others have repeatedly told you with refernces to prove, are false?

    Are you deliberately trying to cover up the truth? If so have a look and see how little effect you are having.

    If I was living in the USA, I would already own some very big guns. I am surprised you all take it for granted at this point there will even BE an election in 2008. If you are certain of this, then you have not been paying attention. Especially to Bush’s most recent couple of declarations of personal power.

  114. Oh Good. I see the Samantha is now gone. Best way to deal with deliberate lies. Once a lie has been repeated more than twice in a thread I would kick all repeats of the lie off too.

  115. #17 comment is likely from the same shill who spams craigslist with anti-Paul propaganda. No one with a brain could accuse Dr. Paul of those things.

  116. I can’t understand you Ron Paul libertarians. You think you’re free when you are in reality a captive consumer under the thumb of corporate monopoly control that Congress refuses to regulate because of the huge amounts of campaign contributions they receive. One huge water corporation, one huge energy corporation, one huge healthcare corporation, one huge oil corporation, one huge food processing corporation… that can never be voted out of power is not my idea of liberty and freedom. That’s where we’re heading when you use the argument of free markets, i.e. Libertarianism that ends up effectively justifying free monopolies. No thanks to corporate socialism.

    Look at all of the private companies & contractors currently in Iraq that are government funded so that the huge, rich oil companies can steal the Iraqi oil through private sharing agreements. That’s why we’re still in Iraq.

    Our constitution says of, by and for the people — no where were corporations or the rich mentioned. What we have is the best democracy that money can buy. I think that’s the biggest problem we face and it cannot be resolved with a Libertarian solution.

  117. “Look at all of the private companies & contractors currently in Iraq that are government funded so that the huge, rich oil companies can steal the Iraqi oil through private sharing agreements. That’s why we’re still in Iraq.”

    Ron Paul is against government subsidies or “corporate welfare”. He wouldn’t take us to Iraq, and he wouldn’t pay contractors to go either. In a libertarian society, rich oil companies are on their own. I recommend you study libertarianism. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism

  118. My son is a serving officer and graduate of one of this country’s “Trade Schools”. He gave money and is actively
    supporting Ron Paul. I am also a Viet era Vet and alumnus of the same “Trade school” my son attended. (some coincidence)
    I too gave a significant contribution to Dr. Paul.
    He and I are both big Ron Paul supporters. We believe that only he or a Mike Gravel type person can save this country
    from becoming a imperial carcass just like the Roman Empire
    years ago.. Unfortunately our politicians don’t know how to read history or understand it because we are doomed to repeat it and will be brought down from within by mercenary
    armies and foreign troops in our nation while our troops are being slaughtered in foreign lands in frivolous engagements. It’s not “God bless america” anymore…
    it’s “God save the USA” !!

  119. Perhaps those of us who support Ron Paul because we know intrinsically why we support him, can forgive the ‘pawns’ of the mind control machine who take the time to write in here and believe they have something to add. Though I will not dare throw pearls to swine with your mentality, I, nevertheless have something to say to you.

    The brevity of what is at stake right now in our country is not for the faint-hearted, the mealey-mouth, the moron, or the coward. We are witnessing a clarion call to all those souls who are waking up, and all those who have been waiting for all the others to wake up. Our hearts vibrate towards a glimpse of a blissful vision that is not here yet, but may yet come only by the ‘free will’ of those whose hearts are pure.

    Perhaps you write cynically here because you lack faith in your own dreams. It is sad and a shame that you do not pursue your dreams for this amazing experiment called, ‘The United States’. You need only read the history of how this country came to be, and, if you have a pure heart, you would feel the trepidation that each early American felt as they took sides. It required conscience then, and it requires a conscience more than ever today! Think for yourself and trust only your inner guide. This is not a ‘war on terror’, no, there is a much bigger war going on in plain sight. Its always been a war for our minds in case you have not noticed it. The more you pay attention, question, and think only for yourself, you will begin to notice how the media passes ‘illusions’ off for reality. I invite you to educate yourselves. Perhaps when you are ready, you too will come of your own free will and join hearts with us!

  120. Amen to Anisha Dunne.

    It is a tragedy that those who spew forth their short vitriolic disinformation, laced with self projecting ad-hominem as a rule, have become the FACE OF AMERICA. Another answer to the question which seems to mystify the America we see, “Why do they hate us?” especially when asked about why the WHOLE WORLD is in democratic agreement about hating the USA. Is to say these people, these willfully ignorant, hubris filled, empty slogan spouting hypocrites are why we hate you.

    It is good and proper that these mealy mouthed mindless soulless morons cannot bear the site, sound or mention of Ron Paul. NOw ignore the cretins, and replace them wiuth an image more in keeping with the very impressive figure of Ron Paul. NO MATTER what banner he runs under, THAT man is the finest example of leadership and good decent values in an experienced politician, I have seen in my life. I ENVY the USA, the mere CHANCE to have a president of such calibre.

    IF you do not get this man for your next President, assuming you even have an election to look forward to, then you, as a anation, will deserve, EXACTLY, what you then get.

    God help us all, if this is so, no matter which of the two or three pre-selected, (by the real powers) candidates you get, I predict we will all soon be forgetting Bush’s regime, as having been eclipsed by an even greater evil with already provided dictatorial control..

    Mostly though, for you will need it more than anyone by then, God help YOU!

    ………….an Australian Rabbit

  121. I would like to help you understand that ‘corporate monopoly’ has nothing to do with ‘free market’. It is just that, a monopoly. Morally and ethically those running these monopolies are ‘cheaters’ of the worst kind. But even more criminal are those legislators who passed bills through congress allowing cheaters to thrive. If all or most of our representatives in congress were true to our Constitution, this could not occur. However, since the inception of the Federal Reserve in 1913, the days of ‘free’ markets were over. The Federal Reserve is not ‘Federal’, but has been ‘owned’ by a private syndicate of bankers who print our money for pennies but charge the face value of each bill to us, they were to dub, taxpayers, and charge huge interest to boot. We have been the fourth generation of ‘tax slaves’. All of this is very unConstitutional, of course. I encourage you to google Aaron Russo’s film, ‘America, Freedom to Fascism’. You may begin to see how one thing leads to another, as you become, ‘educated’.

  122. Anisha I couldn’t have said it better myself! GO RON PAUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  123. We have to find a way to spread Ron Paul’s message far and wide, and get him elected as Prersident in 2008. This is the best hope for saving this country.

  124. […] andreas04: close to attraction Military support for the republican candidates. […]

  125. I love all of you in the military and hopefully Dr. Paul will bring you home soon. No one else is trying as hard as he is to make that happen for you.

    We’re all proud of you, and want you safe.

    Come home.

    sky

  126. Greetings and hats off to you, Aussie Rabbit, for your spirit and recognition! I am a Canadian who is now an American, and no matter what the outcome, I’m here to stay! I was raised with the grave story of this country and its fierce fight against British imperialism. Nothing has changed since this country’s inception except to say, the sinister imperialism part went hidden after 1789, then morphed into a much more sophisticated mind control machine at the beginning of the 20th century! The illuminati learned how to play ‘Wag the Dog’ on the innocent public. They learned about our reactions by the ‘War of the Worlds’ experiment in the 30’s and soon after that, the Nazi experiment, and on and on….

    The ’seemingly’ impossible wisdom that will be required by each American to overcome such sophisticated illusions is just breathtaking in its possibilities, yet, I am very very optimistic that the outcome for wake up is here! They might be able to use their sorcery for ‘mind control’, but what ‘they’ seem to have a problem controlling is, ‘CONSCIOUSNESS’. Consciousness is forever expanding with us humans. No matter how much chemtrails they dump on us, poisons in our waters, noxious things they put in the vaccines, chemical sprays and genetically modify our foods, they cannot seem to control the ‘divine’ part of us! And thank the Supreme Being for that!

  127. […] half of all donations from members of the military are going to Ron Paul. Military support for the republican candidates NAME: TOTAL [ARMY] [NAVY] [AIRFORCE] [VETERAN] [USMC**] RON PAUL: 24,965 [6,975] [6,765] [4,650] […]

  128. This is fantastic news and if Rep. Paul can raise just 10 million his thrifty but effective campaign will absolutely give Rudy Julie, Mitt and Fred Tom a dog fight. On another note I hope Ron gets a chance to expose what’s being hidden from the public in Federal, State and Local (CAFR’s) Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports. You can learn all about it from Walter Burien at www.cafr1.com

  129. I’m gald to hear that military people are supporting Ron Paul for President. It just proves that military people are as just as smart as everyone else. Maybe more so.

    I’m a Democrat but like would like the chance to vote for Ron Paul. I don’t consider Paul a Republican, althought he is running under that party name. Ron himself explained that he did it for practical reasons. I accept that.

    I know he is really a Libertarian, which raises its own questions. At least he’s not a Republican or establishment Democrat (Clinton, et al)

    Some of Ron’s ideas seem very farfetched and bad ideas at worst. Eliminate the income tax? Is there a laugh machine in the room? Also, letting the free market take care of all our problems is very dubious idea. Blind belief in free markets has given us Presidents like Dubya and Clinton.

    But I like Ron Paul for the same reason everyone else likes him: He seems like a ’straight-shooter’.

  130. poster #110

    that decision was handed down in 1892, not 1879, and it in no way related to the constitutional prevention of the us govt establishing or sustaining religion, christian or otherwise.

    it’s that kind of self serving interpretation of the law that is destroying this country. i am more fearful of american, right wing, evangelical, christians than i am of al quaeda. al quaeda ain’t tryin’ to usurp the authority of the us constitution with self serving interpretations fed to unthinking “faithful” voters.

  131. Great news!

    Maybe they should do a study of veteran contributors. Count me as one vet. contributor for Ron Paul!

  132. Wow, there are a lot of interesting comments here. There are still quite a few posters who believe what they hear through mainstream media. Heads up guys…you are being lied to EVERYDAY.

    Mainstream media is owned by corporations who don’t want Ron Paul. He is a HUGE threat to their control of the government. He can’t be bought therefore, they can’t control him.

    Has mainstream media told you that Ron Paul has not taken any government paid junkets? He pays his own way where ever he goes.

    And how about retirement? Bet you didn’t know that he DOES NOT participate in the government retirement plan. He will retire on the salary he made as a doctor, not as a congressman.

    Ron Paul has never voted for a congressional pay raise or received one! Any additional money went to charities not into his pocket.

    He has been a TX congressman for 10 terms. 10! He can’t be all that bad if his constituents keep voting him in all those years.

    Care to hear another part of his campaign platform mainstream media won’t tell you? He intends to dissolve the IRS! That money goes to feed war campaigns and big government, not into our economy to assist U.S. citizens.

    Imagine how much more money you would have if 30% of your income didn’t go to feed the political war machine.

    As far as taxes go, Ron Paul has NEVER voted to raise taxes. He believes that we pay enough now. A flat tax would stop the massive sucking sound we hear as big government drains us of our hard earned income.

    The man always has and always will defend the Constitution and YOUR individual rights and freedoms, whatever you choose.

    Follow these links and read TRUTH for a change. There are many more links but, these are good for starters.

    www.restoretherepublic.com
    www.lonelanternsociety.com
    www.ontheissues.org see the TRUTH on voting records for your elected officials.

    Nuf Said

  133. I am a Canadian, so I usually just sit back and read these blogs, but today I had to comment.

    I just want to say that I am so glad to see that so many Americans have woken up to the Bush Govt. It’s been a long time coming! For the past five and a half years, I personally have been very frustrated over this new Nazi-like regime forming under our very noses. I say “ours” because ALL North Americans are under the influence of the U.S.A.. ie: My fellow Canadians are fighting and dying in Afghanistan, along with your soldiers, even as I am writing this! Anyway, I could never imagine how so many Americans could be duped for so long! Thank God your waking up!

    I can’t vote in your elections, but if I could, Ron Paul would be my ONLY consideration. He is what I think of as a TRUE American! He embodies all that is good and decent in a man and is the ONLY candidate with any integrity and honesty. The only real alternative to the rest of the candidates! The rest are on the ballot to let you think you actually have a choice in how your U.S. is governed. Even your Democratic party has forgotten “the people”… because I believe most politicians today are just paid-in-full clones for the coming New World Order!

    As this 2008 election draws near, my only fear now is that there is not another “convenient?” 911 terrorist event, that will allow G.W.Bush to instate his plans for marshal law and his new dictatorship. Then, he can install his New World Order without any more distractions!

    …in one of his speeches, I remember him jokingly saying, “It would be so much easier, if I were dictator” … most just laughed it off, but now it seems to be more prophetic than just casual joking.

    I would suggest that instead of arguing who is the best choice for your next president, ALL (North) Americans should get on their knees and ask God for His help in ridding us of this corrupt and evil government. Then also pray that there really is a 2008 election, so you can actually choose a new president. Sadly, I have my doubts that America will ever see another election!

    Now, even though it’s been thrown out of most organizations, I can still remember the Lords prayer, where it says, “and deliver us from evil”… Hmm, coincidence? …I think not. Maybe NOW is the time to bring back the Lord’s prayer? If not in government…at least in our own homes. NOW is the time to do it…tomorrow may be too late! I see concentration camps sitting empty right now, inside your borders…and they apparently are not for illegal aliens…so who are they for? …Resistors? …to what?
    May God help us all! …

    Thanks for your time… Ron

  134. I think #17 “Paul”, and #67 “Tammy” may be the same person trying to spread the same negative comment.

    Note the similar writing style and identical mis-spelling of “goverment”.

  135. I just saw #82’s comment, adding #29 “citydweller” to the list, and I agree. Note again the writing style and the SAME mis-spelled “goverment”.

  136. Unfortunately it took segregationist Governor Wallace to reveal the truth that “there’s not a dime’s worth of difference between” Republicans and Democrats. The Democrats willingly went along with the War in Iraq, suspension of Habeas Corpus, detaining protesters, banning books like “America Deceived’ from Amazon, stealing private lands (Kelo decision), warrant-less wiretapping and refusing to investigate 9/11 properly. They are both guilty of treason.
    Support Dr. Ron Paul and end this madness.
    Last link (before Google Books bends to gov’t Will and drops the title):
    http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?&isbn=0-595-38523-0

  137. Ron Paul is the BEST candidate for president in either party.

  138. Its obvious that the main stream media is trying to bury Mr.Paul. SPEAK OUT AMERICA…This could be your last chance to get your country back.

  139. Ron Paul claims to be a constitutionalist and therefore I can support no other candidate but Mr Paul. I am a registered Republican, but I cannot vote for any of the other Republican candidates. I would rather vote for Hillary and stand back and watch the fireworks! That witch will sink the NWO….

  140. Ron Paul is the only true patriot running for the office of President of the United States. If he is not elected, by by USA as we know it.

  141. For the straight dope on what gets reported and what does not - check www.fec.gov - you’ll see that candidates and their committees are required to REQUEST the information from donors (Some say “requested” - which means a donor didn’t supply it and the committee is attempting to get it)

    Contributions that ADD UP TO less than $200 per person will not show up on the FEC report - so “multiple small locations” (under $200 per year per donor) will not show you or your employer on the FEC filing.

    Employers like “U.S. Army” or “USMC” would add to the numbers compiled.

    As for Veterans - Not sure - but would guess that someone on a military pension (or disability) could list the branch they served as their “employer.”

    Again - check this out for yourself - www.FEC.Gov

  142. #102 “If anything ‘unusual’ happens to silence Ron Paul…We will be left with no other recourse than that which our founding fathers took against their King George.”

    Amen. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. by Thomas Jefferson.

    #108 “No more wars for israel…” Damn skippy.

    #109 “Ron Paul or buy a gun! Either way, we’ll get er done.” Hell yes.

    #119 “The brevity of what is at stake right now in our country is not for the faint-hearted, the mealey-mouth, the moron, or the coward. We are witnessing a clarion call to all those souls who are waking up, and all those who have been waiting for all the others to wake up.”

    Pure poetry…a clarion call.

  143. Go Ron Paul - AMERICA’s HERO! Grow a garden, buy a gun, get young voters attention to how important they are (or how dead they will be in bush’s war efforts), become involved, stand up & tell the truth, learn the Constitution, and vote FOR America - vote Ron Paul!

  144. http://www.lewrockwell.com/shaffer/shaffer160.html

  145. Ron Paul is changing Democratic minds… http://www.rense.com/general77/ronn.htm

  146. Ron Paul is a wack-job and so are his supporters. This guy has about as much of a chance as hell does in freezing over. George

  147. #101 “#99: Ron Paul isn’t our last hope, but he is a rare golden opportunity. Hmmm, with the North American Union at our throats, perhaps he is our last hope. But Hillary? No. If RP is not a presidential candidate, everyone should take the whole election day off and buy a gun…that’ll get their attention.”

    Take a trip through the midwest, through the northwest or even the northern-most parts of the south. Talk with people along the way. You might be surprised to find about 1 in 6 people throughout are ALREADY refugees. People are fleeing California, Texas and other areas at drastic levels. The largest refugee plight in human history is happening to the southwestern part of the good ‘ol USA…right now…right here. The dismemberment of the USA isn’t theory or some strange conspiracy theory, again, it’s occurring RIGHT NOW. And you haven’t seen anything yet, go south on I-35 from Dallas/Fort Worth and witness the construction of the genocide highway, 8 football fields in length to integrate the Mexican population into the USA. It’s being build…right now.

    Myself? I was a real estate investor/landlord, I have a university degree…but I live in a 6′x6′ pop-up tent until I can get re-established. It’s little different than watching refugee plights overseas or in black-and-white film, but it’s ignored. I shouldn’t have to move 100’s of miles away to relocate BACK INTO THE USA! I never moved but Mexico came to me.

    For those with wisdom listen carefully, there will not be a USA if the Republican Party doesn’t choose Ron Paul in 2008. If Republicans want another neo-con, reject Ron Paul, abandon freedom…and select Gulliani, McCain or some other neo-con. Then I’ll give them what they want and vote for Hillary after the primary. Ron Paul IS indeed America’s LAST hope…

  148. HILARY? Think! “Commander in Greif of U.S. Military.” Mercy!
    RUDY? — Should type: “Slant Drilling,” in search box.
    Others should spend election at either “Bohemia Grove,” or with Bush Tribe at “Skull & Bones,” leaving the best winner,
    Those who contribute BIG MONEY, who also want BIG HARVESTS.
    “RON PAUL, IS BEST OF ALL!” Ron, really is best of all!
    Joe Spenner

  149. Some of this great support for Ron Paul renews my faith in
    a few of the people of this country. I just hope we can
    generate enough support to get him in the “White”House. We
    also need to clean out the other branches of government.I
    have bought my guns.

  150. Ron Paul is OUR MAN for President of the USA!

  151. I do not believe our freedom should require a majority, or honest government.

    I will vote for Ron Paul, but even if elected the state will rise again unless we destroy it.

    When one man takes the output of another man’s labor and then decides what to give back to the first man, the first man is a SLAVE.

    ALL taxes are slavery. You have a right to personal sovereignty.

    Buy your guns whatever happens, remember that congress will still be full of apologists to power. They can impeach him and we all know the media has the power to convict innocents.

    Vote Ron Paul, buy more than one gun, and remember no one has a right to your property.

    That and go spell check!

  152. You Ron Paul loyalists amaze me. If Ron Paul was the noble man that you would have us believe he is, at this point in time in our country he would be leading the brigade for the legal and lawful constitutional removal of corporate pupit Bush from the office of president. God knows the majority of the Americans are ready for that. However, Ron Paul has more important things to do, like promoting free trade, a national sales tax, no national health care, no national social security system…. Translation: the top 20% that own 95% of all the wealth in this country would love that.
    They would finally have the last remaining tools to take all of the wealth away from us and permanently enslave everyone else. I think you people are either incredibly naive or some of you may actually be covert cynical pawns of the establishment. Only God knows the truth. Let’s legally impeach the monsters in the White House and take a deep breath and sort all of this out before we start picking out real representatives of the people for 2008.

    PS: I can’t stand any of the mainstream, corporate Republicans or Democrats currently running for president, especially Hillary Clinton!

  153. Dr. Paul is my hero who’s not selling a charlatan candidate but spreading the message of a movement.
    I did not make the following comment #146. . .
    “Ron Paul is a wack-job and so are his supporters. This guy has about as much of a chance as hell does in freezing over. George
    Comment by George Andonyan | July 18, 2007″

    Prank by my buddy Robert “Bobby” Garcia about what he thinks about a “splinter” candidate. Anyone having the talent, patience, and some good material to deal with a deluded GOP’er (Bush-supporter) can wake him up at garciar@cooley.edu

  154. Congressman Ron Paul and the Permanent Revolution.
    Congressman Ron Paul is a member of the Republican Party. He has been repeatedly “elected” to office by the Republican and “independent” voters of his District in Texas. Presently Ron Paul is “running” for the presidency. He is backed by many organizations that consider themselves the Voice of American Patriotism., the Saving the Republic Community.

    How many of these “Republican” voters, party members, and his many “Patriotic-Pals and Patrons” know the Republican Party is a member party of the International Democrat Union (www.idu.org). When one reads the propaganda at the IDU web cite the individual will come to understand the IDU determines all policies and campaign strategies for all the member parties to include the Republican Party USA.

    The Congressman, to say the least, does not fit the stereotype of any of the several different types of IDU-Republican presidential candidates. This reality becomes quite clear when an individual comes to understand Ron Paul is the only “presidential candidate” from either the Third Way-Democrat or IDU-Republican “front-runners” that openly recognizes the existence and reality of the Permanent Revolution.

    Congressman Ron Paul possesses another quite noteworthy distinction. His candidacy has filled the political void/vacuum created by Patrick Buchanan’s retirement from the “Third Party Politics” of the Saving the Republic Community located on the Right Extreme of the False Political Spectrum . Ron Paul now has the privilege to lead millions of well meaning Americans astray with false hopes and catchy words of sophistry…through the use of the many Fabian-controlled Perestroika Type-II Conspiracy Theory groups.

    Ron Paul’s presidential bid will be as “successful” as Buchanan’s. This “success” will be traced to one very important campaign tactic…it is the “I really don”t want to win” syndrome. Despite “all truth” being on my side…I will not use any of these truths to provide and promote a candidacy resulting in the occupation of the White House.

    Please understand, American Counter-Revolution is not invoking the political concept “Ron Paul can’t win” or any other Third Party candidate for that matter. It is the position of the American Counter-Revolution Dr. Ron Paul has no intentions of winning.

    To further clarify the position of the American Counter-Revolution concerning the Congressman’s candidacy…it is the belief of American Counter-Revolution the first presidential candidate that makes exposing the reality of the Permanent Revolution his or her central campaign plank…that brave and Patriotic individual can win the presidential election in 2008 or 2012.

    Ron Paul could be president. He truly understands the Permanent Revolution is real. Yet in all the public-premature Republican primary debates He has participated in…He not once mentioned the Permanent Revolution.

    If the Congressman is not willing to play his most important trump card exposing all of his opponents as Agents of the Permanent Revolution in front of a “national audience”…can we expect him to be able to do what is necessary to win? If he hasn’t placed the issue of the Permanent Revolution on the table of public-premature-presidential debate can we trust him to override IDU Republican Party control…should by some chance he wins in the primaries?

    Will the Ron Paul campaign be able to separate Democrat and Republican Followers from the Fabian controlled Elite of the One Party Perestroika Vote Fraud Mechanism?

    By exposing the Permanent Revolution Dr. Ron Paul could separate the Followers from the Fabian Elite simply by informing the American Republic The Fabian controlled Permanent Revolution operates through two international Socialist organizations…The Third Way and the International Democrat Union.

    Dr. Ron Paul could point out the simple facts that the Democrat Party is controlled by the Third Way (through the Democratic Leadership Council) and the Republican Party is a member party of the International Democrat Union…both organizations are Fabian creations.

    Will Ron Paul be able to Politically Fuse all of the many Followers of the alternative Perestroika-political groupings (controlling the Political Refugee Class) that exist outside of the One Party Vote Fraud Mechanism? This may prove to be a most difficult task when one considers the vast majority of alternative political groupings are all (one way shape or form) Perestroikas set-up and operated by the various Fabian Elites. In this situation the Congressman must again be able to separate the Followers from the Fabian controlled Elites…this will take real political courage…the courage necessary to be President.

    Now for another important question concerning Ron Paul’’s candidacy. If the Congressman loses the Republican primary in 2008 will he seek the presidency as an independent?

    If Ron Paul can answer “yes” to all of the above questions…Ron Paul can win. If He answers “no” to any of the above questions…Ron Paul does not intend to win…and we can really call him Dr. NO.

    One last important question to ask about the Ron Paul candidacy. Are the followers of Ron Paul ready to acknowledge and then expose the Permanent Revolution? After all, Ron Paul is an Elite leader of the Saving the Republic Community…and a member of the IDU-Republican Party.

    This Republic needs an independent and strong willed person to repeat to all of this Nation and the entire World:

    THE PATH OF PERMANENT REVOLUTION…

    …IS NOT THE PATH OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION!

    Ron Paul already understands this…or so he says. Only time will tell.

    Toto