Ron Paul receives the most military donations among Republicans AGAIN in Q3
It appears our military backs Ron Paul in the most important issue facing the United States: Terrorism and our foreign policy. For the second time in a row, Ron Paul receives more donations among Republicans. Data for Democrats is not yet available, but Ron Paul crushed Democrats in this statistic last quarter as well.
Candidate [Air Force] [Army] [Navy] [Marines] [Coast Guard] [Other*] [Total]
Brownback [151] [0] [0] [0] [0] [250] [401]
Cox [0] [0] [0] [0] [0] [0] [0]
Guiliani [1,250] [750] [1,500] [1,000] [0] [0] [4,500]
Huckabee [2,050] [1,200] [2,850] [0] [250] [260] [6,610]
Hunter [0] [500] [0] [0] [0] [30] [530]
McCain [4,120] [7,972] [6,645] [1,721] [100] [800] [21,358]
Paul [7,450] [17,998.96] [7,227.76] [2,740] [800] [4,200] [40,416.72]
Romney [500] [3,410] [750] [800] [0] [250] [5,710]
Thompson [4,800] [5,825] [6,350] [800] [23] [2,600] [20,398]
Ron Paul: $40K
McCain: $21K
Thompson: $20K
This data is sourced from FEC Reports for Q3 and was compiled here by jfletch and RP4.US
*This list uses donators who listed their employer as some variation of Air Force, Army, National Guard, Navy, Marine Corps, Coast Guard, Retired Vet, Veteran, Civilian Military employee, or Military (no branch indicated). This is preliminary data and may contain insignificant errors.
Ron Paul led in military contributions last quarter as well.
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Comment by Steve LaBianca | October 16th, 2007
I wonder how the donation stack up by actual servicemen and women deployed overseas, and totals by currently serving as armed forces “soldiers”.
Comment by Will Kone | October 16th, 2007
Good question Steve. I’m not sure how we could find that out with the FEC documents. I would expect that donations from those deployed would be much less than those at home because the deployed have a lot less time to deal with day to day “trivia” like how next falls election is going.
That is just a guess. It is very likely I’m way off.
Comment by somebody | October 16th, 2007
Again, though, doesn’t this only count those who give more than $200? Since then they have to name an employer? If so, I wonder how the hypothesis that Ron Paul may be getting money from higher ranked members of the military works out, since I’m assuming that they get paid better and, thus, can afford to donate more. Would that make sense? I’m not too sure of all the details containing these FEC reports, but I do remember a lot of criticism the last time around that Paul was told to have gotten the “most” donations from the military.
Comment by BoruJudasDedrich | October 16th, 2007
I heard that 50% of the vets-that-donated donated to Ron Paul.
Can anyone confirm/link with source?
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Comment by Jeff Molby | October 16th, 2007
Any chance you could do a similar comparison by industry?
It would probably take a lot of work, but it would be a body blow to show clear, indisputable numbers of how certain individuals gain a ton of money from certain interests.
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To Jeff Molby – Good question. You will find it at opensecrets once the numbers are in: http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/ then click on selected industries. Right now they only have the data for the 2nd quarter, but not the third.
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People with family and friends who are in dire need of their disability need to speak up LOUDLY and OFTEN on the Ron Paul websites! You should be very afraid, this old man hasn’t a clue about disabled people, despite being a doctor! There are only so many positions for wal-mart door greeter for disabled people, those genuinely in need of SS/disability can’t do much else. And it COULD be any of us, anytime. Please take a step back and think about this even if it doesn’t impact you immediately.
PEOPLE WHO ARE UNABLE TO WORK WILL NOT HAVE ANY MONEY. What then? He is opposed to state-assisted suicide… which would be the only way to avoid becoming homeless, for MANY of these people. No matter how young you are now, one day you, too WILL be elderly and in need of a social security program to take care of you. Pensions are weaker than ever before, and non-existant in many places today that they used to be commonplace. Please THINK.
Comment by Freddy | December 2nd, 2007
GordonUnleashed: “doesn’t matter how you slice it or dice it, the military loves them some Ron”
All this “proves” is that Ron Paul supporters “loves them some publicity-seeking donation stunts.”
Prove there is validity in any of this. Prove that the Ron Paul donors claiming to be military actually ARE military. Prove that this is not just another coordinated stunt like the “most donations in a single day” stunt that got big headlines but amounted to very little.
Ron Paul’s percentage of alleged military donors sure appears to have taken off ever since Ron Paul supporters starting trying to spin these numbers as “no matter how you slice it or dice it, the military loves them some Ron.”
If it turns out that Ron Paul donors are LYING and claiming a FALSE military affiliation, will you CONDEMN THEM?
Comment by BOris | December 5th, 2007
Freddy, what evidence do you have that these supporters are lying and spinning numbers around? Cuss Hannity of Fox says so? Fact is that Ron Paul is gaining a lot of momentum and has a searious chance at the primaries, no matter how much the news downplays him or ignores him. I am from Pensacola Florida, and I see mroe Ron Paul signs and supporters then any of the other supporters combined. I don’t know many people who are politicaly active who actualy want guliani or romney as president.
And about the SS issue from above. He is not getting rid of it for everyone. You have the option of doing it under his plan. Also, anyone who has already been paying the tax for so long (idk how long), will still be getting it. Problem is people have this idea that the government is here to help you out all through your life. You depend on the federal government for everything. This mentality is what is bringing the country down more than anything (my opinion). We are enducing a welfare state which is leading to socialism. I personaly enjoy our republic. If you want a socialistic country, go somewhere else.
Comment by Freddy | December 6th, 2007
BOris says “Freddy, what evidence do you have that these supporters are lying and spinning numbers around?”
1) I notice that you FAIL to answer the question, BOris. I didn’t say I had proof they are lying. I asked if they are lying by claiming a FALSE military affiliation, will you CONDEMN THEM? Will you?
2) If Ron Paul’s campaign is fudging the numbers, will you reject the campaign?
BOris: “I don’t know many people who are politicaly active who actualy want guliani or romney as president.”
3) Of course not. Who could want them for president? They support Bush’s failures in Iraq and will throw more Americans into the meat grinder for Bush’s oil buddies. It is clear that the thinking Republicans have gone to Ron Paul. Too bad Ron Paul is a hypocrite who sells out his principles for power, as I have pointed out.
BOris: “If you want a socialistic country, go somewhere else.”
4) Have you failed to notice that we already ARE a socialist country? We have socialized education. We have socialized retirement. We have socialized military, etc. “Problem is people have this idea that the government is here to help you out all through your life” by protecting you from enemies. Why should the government hire an army for you?
Comment by Sand | December 6th, 2007
To 17. (3) Giuliani is just like Hillary. So why would you want Hillary for president?
Comment by Freddy | December 7th, 2007
Sand lies by saying: “To 17. (3) Giuliani is just like Hillary.”
On major issues Clinton and Giuliani are poles apart.
End the Republicans’ failed Iraq War:
Giuliani- No
Clinton- Yes
Paul- Yes
Federal Intrusions Into Personal Privacy with Big Government Restrictions on Abortion:
Clinton- No
Giuliani- Yes
Paul- Yes
Cut Corporate Tax Breaks:
Clinton- Yes
Giuliani- No
Paul- No
Reform health care and stop insurance companies from dropping citizen’s health coverage
Clinton- Yes
Giuliani- No
Paul- No
Fight Global Warming:
Clinton: Yes
Giuliani: No
Ron Paul: No
Looks like Republican Giuliani and Republican Paul HAVE MUCH MORE IN COMMON than Clinton.
Sand fails again. So your question rebounds on you.
“With the notable exception of Iraq, Giuliani is (mostly) like RON PAUL. So why would you want Paul for president?”
Comment by Sand | December 8th, 2007
Actually, Clinton keeps voting for the Iraq War, which Giuliani supports.
Clinton voted for the Patriot Act which Giuliani supports
Clinton and Giuliani actively talk about pursuing Iran, or in the least protecting Israel at any cost, and not allowing Iran to have nuclear weapons at any cost.
They both support the war on drugs.
They are both authoritarians. Giuliani banned ferrets and jay walking in NY. Hillary wants to ban violent video games.
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Comment by Freddy | December 17th, 2007
Hey, thespinfactor.com: Nice job removing posts that DISPROVE YOUR PRO-PAUL PROPAGANDA.
So much for being “open-minded and neutral.” Is your little website afraid of TRUTH?
Here’s a repost:
21. Comment by Freddy | December 11th, 2007
I like how Sand uses the word “actually” before Sand distorts, misleads and LIES!
Sand “Actually, Clinton keeps voting for the Iraq War, which Giuliani supports.”
1) Prove it.
Yes, Clinton voted for the original resolution on force and for funding. But you said she “keeps” voting for the Iraq war. So prove it. What votes are these?
2) Are you aware that since Bush’s Iraq war lies have been revealed, Clinton “keeps” voting AGAINST the Republicans and the Iraq war?
Clinton, Obama vote ‘no’ on Senate Iraq bill
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18862112/
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/09/23/clinton.iraq/index.html
WASHINGTON (CNN) — Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton said Sunday she won’t vote for any more money to support the four-year-old war in Iraq without a plan to start bringing U.S. troops home.
“I’ve reached the conclusion that the best way to support our troops is begin bringing them home,” the New York senator and former first lady told CNN’s “Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer.”
3) Sand, are you aware that right up to now, Clinton has been voting AGAINST THE REPUBLICANS to get Senate ratification on the Responsible Iraq Redeployment Appropriations Act?
Sand “Clinton voted for the Patriot Act which Giuliani supports”
4) Sand: “Clinton voted for the Patriot Act which Giuliani supports” True but VERY MISLEADING. Clinton is on record that it needs amending and has been implemented improperly. Giuliani is NOT.
Read what Clinton has to say about the Patriot Act’s “tremendous potential for abuse.”
http://www.senate.gov/~clinton/news/statements/details.cfm?id=249895
5) Sand “Hillary wants to ban violent video games.”
Here Sand tells an outright LIE. I challenge you to PROVE IT.
Comment by Sand | December 17th, 2007
I’m busy, but I’ll answer 5 for now: http://www.cbc.ca/arts/story/2005/12/01/clinton_law-051201.html
Comment by Freddy | December 19th, 2007
Sand “I’m busy, but I’ll answer 5 for now:”
So Sand is too “busy” to answer questions that PROVE HIM WRONG, but not too “busy” to get into new debates on other pages. LOL!
I have PROVEN that Giuliani’s political positions are MUCH CLOSER to Paul than to Clinton. And Sand has fled from any more defense of his old position.
6) Sand: “Hillary wants to ban violent video games.”
Did you actually read beyond the headline to read the actual article you linked?
The ban that Clinton supports is not “violent video games”, but rather their SALE TO CHILDREN.
The legislation “would ban the sale of violent video games to children.”
LOL! Sand fails again! Will he man up and admit it?
Comment by Sand | December 19th, 2007
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/ban
2: to prohibit especially by legal means ; also : to prohibit the use, performance, or distribution of
The fact that I wasn’t specific doesn’t do anything for you. I can say you “FAIL” because you weren’t specific enough to lay out the entire legislation, which does more than ban the sale of violent video games to minors.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s109-2126
Of course instead of saying anything substantive, you want to argue syntax and semantics. How short-sighted.
Comment by Freddy | December 19th, 2007
Sand argues syntax and semantics, and then goes on to criticize “arguing syntax and semantics.”
LOL! More psychological projection from Sand!
I am not challenging the definition of “ban.” When it came to violent video games, Clinton tried to ban THE SALE TO CHILDREN.
She did NOT try to ban violent video games! Violent video games themselves would NOT be “prohibited especially by legal means ; also : prohibited in the use, performance, or distribution of!”
Violent video games would still be for sale to adults, and therefore NOT BANNED!
Sand gripes “The fact that I wasn’t specific doesn’t do anything for you.”
The fact that you were WRONG about the substance of the ban is just like the ways you were WRONG about Obama’s record, etc. It is not a matter of failing to be specific enough. You made accusations that are NOT TRUE.
Sand: ” I can say you “FAIL” because you weren’t specific enough to lay out the entire legislation, which does more than ban the sale of violent video games to minors.”
7) You could IF anywhere in the entire legislation, violent video games are BANNED! But violent video games would continue to be for sale in stores in the US, and not banned. Right?
Comment by Sand | December 19th, 2007
“Sand argues syntax and semantics, and then goes on to criticize “arguing syntax and semantics.””
Yes, I was showing you what you did, the difference is my response was relevant to your response. While yours wasn’t.
You are still missing the point. Hillary is just as authoritarian as the Republicans both you and I despise so much.
“But violent video games would continue to be for sale in stores in the US, and not banned. Right?”
No. Their sale would be restricted based on her misunderstanding of technology.
“True or false: “Ron Paul supports Bush’s plans to invade and overthrow Muslim leaders”?”
Ron Paul specifically said: “Mr. Speaker, my guess is that in the not-too-distant future so-called proof will be provided that Saddam Hussein was somehow partially responsible for the attack on the United States, and it will be irresistible then for the United States to retaliate against him. This will greatly and dangerously expand the war and provoke even greater hatred towards the United States, and it is all so unnecessary. It is so hard for many Americans to understand how we inadvertently provoke the Arab Muslim people, and I am not talking about the likes of bin Laden and his gang. I am talking about the Arab Muslim masses.”
As you can see Ron Paul opposed this in 2001. If you are talking about his vote to approve a retaliation against our attackers in Afghanistan, you should first know that he introduced legislation calling for the Constitutional use of Letters of Marque (look it up in the Constitution), which would only approve force against our attackers, not specifically elected Muslim leaders, as you insidiously suggest.
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