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1. Comment by Michelle Schwartz | September 27th, 2008

   I would like to know who wrote this article. It sure sounds like a very negative, disgruntled individual. Perhaps a distributor, previous employee of Droobli. I have a hard time believing this article. Please give me something that has validity to it.

   Otherwise, know that you are just manifesting more negativity in your life by posting and exasburating your own frustrations! Remember….you become what you think..you are creating exactly what you are getting in life!

   Here’s to manifesting some positive miracles in your life filled with lightness, happiness & joy!

   With appreciation & gratitude!

   Wishing you a life full of abundance, clarity & joy!

2. Comment by jane doe | September 28th, 2008

   Its very interesting to me that this person is so negitive towards Droobli when in fact I personally have contacts in Germany who are customers of Droobli and are very pleased with what Droobli has to offer. I agree that this person must have been a distributor or previous employee of Droobli. Maybe a employee of eBay bashing Droobli scared of losing customers. Why wouldnt people want to get their favorite items for much less. I think its great that there is so much talk about Droobli, lets talk more. Lets get the brand Droobli out there.

3. Comment by eaglescout | September 28th, 2008

   To Michelle Schwartz:

   “I would like to know who wrote this article.”

   It doesn’t matter who wrote the article; as long as it is factual.

   “It sure sounds like a very negative, disgruntled individual. Perhaps a distributor, previous employee of Droobli.”

   Why does it matter if it sounds negative? Should I be positive about scams like GroobLi?

   “I have a hard time believing this article.”

   Why? Didn’t you study math in school? Did look up Santi Fuentes? Did you look up the warnings posted by the SEC and various other countries?

   “Please give me something that has validity to it.”

   Read the article; study the references.
   Why don’t you explain what part is invalid? Otherwise there is no point in having this “conversation”.

   “Otherwise, know that you are just manifesting more negativity in your life by posting and exasburating your own frustrations!”

   “manifesting more negativity”?

   Sorry, but I don’t buy into “the Secret”, or James Ray, or fake psychology.

   Can you be more specific? What’s wrong with being negative about something evil?

   Do you manifest positivity when you think about people being scammed? If so, you may be a bad person.

   “Remember….you become what you think..you are creating exactly what you are getting in life!”

   What does this have to do with the article? And like I said, I don’t believe in fake psychology. “The Secret” is another scam. Apparently you bought into it as well.

   “Here’s to manifesting some positive miracles in your life filled with lightness, happiness & joy!”

   No, thank you. I’m happier when I’m not surrounded by liars.

   “With appreciation & gratitude!
   Wishing you a life full of abundance, clarity & joy!”

   Not interested. I’d rather hear what is so great about GroobLi.
   But apparently you are not interested in making a case.

4. Comment by eaglescout | September 28th, 2008

   To Jane Doe:

   “Its very interesting to me that this person is so negitive towards Droobli when in fact I personally have contacts in Germany who are customers of Droobli and are very pleased with what Droobli has to offer.”

   What are their names? Why are they happy with Droobli? What does Droobli have to offer?

   “I agree that this person must have been a distributor or previous employee of Droobli. Maybe a employee of eBay bashing Droobli scared of losing customers.”

   Again, what does this have to do with the article? I don’t care about eBay. And I don’t think eBay is going to lose customers to a scam. Instead of talking about me, why don’t you talk about Droobli? That’s what the article is about.

   “Why wouldnt people want to get their favorite items for much less.”

   If you read the article you’ll find out why. You’ll end up paying over 1000%, because every transaction is set up to be deceptive.

   Droobli is NOT an auction site. It’s a lottery. Pay attention!

   “I think its great that there is so much talk about Droobli, lets talk more. Lets get the brand Droobli out there.”

   Well, the only one talking about Droobli is me. Apparently you are not interested in discussing Droobli.

5. Comment by t.proia | October 1st, 2008

   HOW COME MY COMMENTS HAVE BEEN DELETED?!!! (now i will continue to repost this every time it gets deleted! so LETS PLAY THAT GAME! >:)

   my old post:

   “there is always going to be someone bagging on another company on some site, if you want the real faq’s along with free droobli credits to see how legit GROOBLI REALLY IS than email me at t.proia@gmail.com

   I KNOW WHY! CAUSE GROOBLI ISNT A SCAM AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO LOSE BUSINESS TO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

   GET THE FAQ’s!

   http://www.droobli411.blogspot.com !

6. Comment by jude | October 2nd, 2008

   eaglescout makes points with specifics, numbers rather than judgements- helpful. not being much at math (nor totally understanding the 3 retail tools), i don’t get the totals, but get your drift.
   t’would be good to hear particulars from significant numbers of those europeans who’ve already been working with droobli for a year or two. anyone?
   i haven’t found anything in the european independent press on droobli – strange; that would be of value.
   thanks for the truth from all quarters.

7. Comment by eaglescout | October 2nd, 2008

   To t.proia,

   Your comments were deleted because your post does not address the topic; instead you are sending people to a misleading site linked to your droobli affiliate store.

   If you are interested in discussing specific issues raised in the article, you are more than welcome to do so. Spam won’t be tolerated.

8. Comment by eaglescout | October 2nd, 2008

   Jude, if you need anything clarified, you can email me privately (click on “iSpin Report Now!”). I will be writing another article and I could use your suggestions.

9. Comment by t.proia | October 2nd, 2008

   you guys are going to have a bad wake up call when your forced to remove your lies. you guys are putting information thats not backed by facts. your facts are false…sorry to say. eaglescout, thanks for letting me know why you deleted it. i wasn’t trying to spam. if i was spamming you would see more than 9 comments.

   i like the truth, and nothing but the truth. if indeed this was a scam, i would be all for this article. but being fairly new to droobli and using it myself, i personally have found absolutely nothing wrong with droobli. as for the stock part of it, you will be able to buy stock from droobli when it launches Oct. 4th.

   may i ask where your getting all your “so called facts?”
   one comment with purely just links listed to facts would be nice. thanks.

10. Comment by eaglescout | October 2nd, 2008

    t.proia,

    “you guys are going to have a bad wake up call when your forced to remove your lies.”

    Where’s your evidence that there are any lies here?

    “you guys are putting information thats not backed by facts. your facts are false…sorry to say.”

    What do you mean? I get my facts from the AMF, the SEC, and research. Any non-original material posted here is sourced. You can find the source by clicking on the posted links.

    Facts are by definition true. And I accept your apology.

    “you will be able to buy stock from droobli when it launches Oct. 4th.”

    Not possible. Droobli is not registered with the SEC, and it takes more than 2 days to do it. (A lot more). Droobli was supposed to launch in the U.S. last Saturday, but they keep putting it off.

    “may i ask where your getting all your ’so called facts?’”

    First off, the sources are listed in the article itself. If you haven’t read it, now would be a good time.

    Second, as I already mentioned, the information comes from the AMF, the SEC, Panamanian authorities, International news, and most importantly, Droobli itself.

    If you have issues with a particular point, then feel free to bring it up. Otherwise, don’t be lazy, and actually read the article.

11. Comment by t.proia | October 2nd, 2008

    NO NO drooblie was never supposed to launch last Saturday. its this Saturday. OCT. 4th i would LOVE TO KNOW WHO TOLD YOU LAST SATURDAY WAS THE LAUNCH…pff
    i guess we will all have to wait. if droobli wont delay there launch.

12. Comment by t.proia | October 2nd, 2008

    whoops my bad, sorry they did delay the launch. but not because its a “so called scam” the owner actually wanted to be there rather than have it launch w/o him.

13. Comment by RJ | October 3rd, 2008

    I’m always amazed how the nay sayers seem to surface on blogs like this. I have to really wonder who is writing the negative comments. What do they have to gain? or do the companies they work for feel threatened by new kid on the block. From the stuff I’ve read and seen Droobli looks like they have a interesting twist. The idea is brilliant and one of those “Why didn’t I think of that” models.

14. Comment by MK | October 4th, 2008

    You are judged in life and in business by the company you keep. I don’t believe Apple would be allowing their product nor any other big name brand on the Droobli site if this company was a scam. Go check out the auction site and see for yourself. There are some pretty major labels being represented.

15. Comment by eaglescout | October 4th, 2008

    To RJ,

    “I’m always amazed how the nay sayers seem to surface on blogs like this.”

    I’m amazed at how the only people who say that happen to be advertising their own Droobli affiliate sites. You are not the first. Also, what do you mean by “blogs like this”? If you have a point to make please stay on topic.

    “I have to really wonder who is writing the negative comments. What do they have to gain?”

    What’s wrong with negative comments about a scam?

    Is it really necessary to “have [something] to gain” in order to point out fraud?

    “or do the companies they work for feel threatened by new kid on the block.”

    No, simply tired of being harassed by pyramid scheme promoters, such as Droobli’s.

    “From the stuff I’ve read and seen Droobli looks like they have a interesting twist.”

    Really? You mean like the stuff you read in your own Droobli affiliate site?

    Are you saying you paid Droobli for your affiliate site based on hearsay? I don’t think you are a retard. Instead I think you are one of Droobli’s promoters, trying to curb the deserved negativity. Nice job giving yourself away.

    “The idea is brilliant and one of those ‘Why didn’t I think of that’ models.

    Well, here I have to agree. I bet many criminals are wondering why they didn’t think of a complex model where every transaction skims off between 40 and 50 percent on average, and then tricks you into playing games of chance instead of real auctions.

    Though I must say, it’s not all that original. It’s just a mix of several different schemes, with misdirection every step of the way. I encourage you to read the article if you haven’t already.

    But you already exposed yourself by posting a Droobli affiliate site.

16. Comment by eaglescout | October 4th, 2008

    To MK,

    “You are judged in life and in business by the company you keep.”

    If Apple doesn’t know Droobli exists, then Apple can’t really keep Droobli as company, can it? Then the cliché is irrelevant.

    “I don’t believe Apple would be allowing their product nor any other big name brand on the Droobli site if this company was a scam.”

    Did you consider Droobli is so obscure that according to Dean Mannheimer (supposed U.S. country manager):

    How well-known is GroobLi today in the U.S.?

    It is brand new. No one has ever heard of them.

    According to Droobli’s USA manager, Apple probably has never heard of Droobli.

    “Go check out the auction site and see for yourself. There are some pretty major labels being represented.”

    I did see the site. I even discuss paying 1000% for the iPod in the article, which you apparently did not read.

    By the way, being a large corporation does not provide immunity from having your products associated with scams all the time.

    eBay sellers sell counterfeit Adobe Photoshop CS2 software packages, all the time, but Adobe refuses to do anything about it, and eBay actually profits from sales commissions, so it’s not in their best interest to police every suspicious transaction.

    Bottom line, it’s not a big deal that Droobli lets you gamble for iPhones, given that the last person to win an iPhone was John Ashfield, and he won every single electronic product in the store, including a Sanyo computer, an iPod, a Samsung product, etc… all on the same date: 7/13/2008.

    Obviously, there is no John Ashfield, and if Droobli is actually giving away iPhones, then they are probably counterfeit. According to the droobli site, Images may differ slightly from actual products.

    Of course, that’s only one of the hundreds of ways in which droobli rips you off.

17. Comment by t.proia | October 5th, 2008

    you nay sayers are dumb. the site launched btw. …guess there legit! wow …what a shock…NOT…droobli is the next big thing. you mine as well get used to it…

18. Comment by eaglescout | October 5th, 2008

    To t.proia,

    Quit moving the goalposts. You said Droobli would be trading on the stock exchange. They still haven’t managed to do so.

    It’s not a “shock” that they “launched”. They even managed to clean up their General Terms and Conditions, so that it is not as blatantly obvious that they are cheating you.

    By the way, they are not currently registered in the United States. They are registered in the UK.

19. Comment by t.proia | October 6th, 2008

    stock is only available to TC’s (team coordinators)they want the right people to invest, it gives them more control over there OWN company. overall it leads to success…your little 1000% comment about the ipod makes you sound like a compulsive liar or a retard…witch ever you prefer. you will NEVER pay above the retail price at droobli…it will always be below. simple as that. now why don’t you stop your hands from typing idiot remarks. All the products get shipped from Arizona for the US site…meaning Yes…if you live in the US…you get stuff shipped from the US not Europe…

    lets sway away from droobli for a sec. for a good example of paying your “1000%”
    ….lets say you were to buy a Smart Car…you would go on a waiting list…but for those people who cant wait…they ship them from Europe…yup…your going to be slapped with a HUGE shipping fee…bumping the price up a bit…the same scenario is what was going on in the US when ordering stuff from the European Version of the Droobli site.

    so case close… droobli is secure and legit…otherwise Walmart wouldn’t have joined up neither would Audi or Apple and many other top name brand companies… open your eyes young grasshopper! and maybe one day you will deserve your title as an Eaglescout

20. Comment by eaglescout | October 6th, 2008

    To t.proia

    “stock is only available to TC’s (team coordinators)they want the right people to invest, it gives them more control over there OWN company.”

    What does this have to do with a real stock exchange?

    “overall it leads to success…your little 1000% comment about the ipod makes you sound like a compulsive liar or a retard…witch ever you prefer.”

    My “little” comment on spending up to 1000% is based on mathematics.

    “you will NEVER pay above the retail price at droobli…it will always be below. simple as that.”

    No. It’s a lottery. Your chances of winning are slim. You have to “bid” multiple times to lower prices. And every time you lower the price, it costs you 62% more than the price is lowered.

    And when you actually “win” the option of buying the item, you have to pay in Droobli credits, which are worth 20% less than a real dollar.

    “lets say you were to buy a Smart Car…you would go on a waiting list…but for those people who cant wait…they ship them from Europe…yup…your going to be slapped with a HUGE shipping fee…bumping the price up a bit…the same scenario is what was going on in the US when ordering stuff from the European Version of the Droobli site.”

    The same scenario, except they hide the shipping costs by giving you the price in “shipping points” which are different from “droobli credits”. Could it be because they don’t want you to know the cost of shipping?

    “so case close… droobli is secure and legit…otherwise Walmart wouldn’t have joined up neither would Audi or Apple and many other top name brand companies”

    Do you have any evidence that Walmart, Audi and Apple joined Droobli? I can sell an Audi car anytime. That doesn’t mean Audi partnered up with me.

21. Comment by t.proia | October 6th, 2008

    someone needs to chain up your hands! your are an idiot who OBVIOUSLY works for a company very scared of droobli. you continue to amaze me…as in..how dumb you are. the express auction isn’t a lottery, the other 2 auctions are just for fun…yes…you may need some luck in the zero auction and unique bid auction. as for the express auction(the popular auction) THERE ARE NO HIDDEN FEES! i want YOU to prove to me where these hidden fees are. if i had a program that recorded my screen i would show you how simple and awesome droobli is.
    your one of those people who don’t care when the truth slaps you in the face. you will simply close your eyes and argue with NO LOGIC.

    “nd when you actually “win” the option of buying the item, you have to pay in Droobli credits, which are worth 20% less than a real dollar.”
    are you talking about the Unique bid auction? if so, then yes you will need luck cause others are playing the same game. you place the bid on what you think you might be able to win it at. if you are the only person with the lowest unique bid(meaning no one else has bid the same bid) than you get that item for what ever you bid for. so lets say you spent a credit to bid 25 cents…if you win the auction then you get the item for the price of your unique low bid. so i could lets say get a 32″ flat screen tv for 25 cents… simple as that.

    the zero auction isn’t my favorite. i personally like the express auction the best. cause you always get a product way cheaper than any retail store including eBay. eBay only ships from where ever the seller is. Droobli ships from there warehouses. 7 diferent locations…

    as for the evidence that walmart etc has joined…just look at the site.

    im sorry if droobli hurts your income. but droobli is going to open up jobs and save lots of people $. which is a good time for them to launch considering how bad the US economy is.

    do you not understand? droobli does not want JUST ANYONE to buy there stock. Its better if people in there own company OWN PART OF THE COMPANY. it helps company growth and helps motivates associates knowing they own a portion of the company.

    THE EXPRESS AUCTION IS NOT A LOTTERY! (if thats honestly what you think than Winning an eBay auction is winning the lottery…and when you win an eBay auction…you get it for the highest price…) thats what you sound like… just stop your non-sense. shipping points = 7 different locations to ship from….get it? got it? good!

22. Comment by t.proia | October 6th, 2008

    on top of all that, you don’t have to worry about fraud or your product being mangled or look different from the pictures. where if you used eBay those worries sit there in the back of your head.

23. Comment by t.proia | October 6th, 2008

    btw it will be in the london stock exchange first…i don’t know exactly when it will be on NYSE

24. Comment by bjorn bjerk | October 6th, 2008

    Hey eaglescout! Check out best buy.com look for this product Garmin nuvi 760 (which is a GPS for your car). The RETAIL price for this item at BEST BUY is 499.99 before taxes! Look at droobli.com under express auction and find this product (Garmin nuvi 760 GPS, same product) AND the STARTING PRICE ON GROOBLI IS 430.00 US DOLLARS………. STARTING PRICE….. ALREADY 12% off at the STARTING PRICE. before anyone looks at it and chooses to see the price. The product comes with a warranty, brand new! not used, or refurbished. Dont know what else to tell you because i read your previous comments and you really dont make any sense…….. Sorry DuBli is going to take some of your business over at eBay………. Walmart is along for the ride at DuBli along with sony, apple, louie viton, gucci, lowes, home depot, samsung, did i say wal-mart? lol dont remember but i know you can find a wal-mart in every major city, hell probably every small town. Oh, and some other small companies you may have heard of… such as: Nokia, panasonic, Nintendo! So sorry to burst your bubbly, heck ill give you some credits so you can get somethin nice for yourself (Christmas is coming up). One more thing the products from the 7 different locations are shipped by some other companies you still havent heard of like………….. FedEx, UPS, and DHL. dont know what else to tell you but wait…… that garmin GPS is now 351.75 cents!

25. Comment by eaglescout | October 6th, 2008

    t.proia,

    Thank you for admitting that the ‘auctions’ are lotteries.

    “THERE ARE NO HIDDEN FEES! i want YOU to prove to me where these hidden fees are.”

    I explained to you that the shipping costs are hidden from plain view, not that there are hidden fees.

    Droobli gets away with fraud by misleading you. Have you read their terms and conditions?

    “as for the evidence that walmart etc has joined…just look at the site.”

    I did. Walmart doesn’t have any information on GroobLi or their relationship. I searched every corporate Walmart site like Sam’s Club. Nothing.

    “im sorry if droobli hurts your income.”

    Don’t apologize to me. Apologize to all the people you are defrauding.

    “but droobli is going to open up jobs and save lots of people $.”

    I don’t think so. There are 10 items in the ‘zero bid’ lottery. Most of those items are worth $400 or less.

    If nobody plays, you have to pay 80 cents per bid to lower the price 25 cents. To get the $500 iPhone you have to spend 500 dollars / 25 cents per bid = 2000 bids.

    To make 2000 bids you have to spend 80 cents * 2000 = $2500 $1600

    Droobli is not saving you any money. Your chance of winning per bid is .05% or 1 in 2000.

    Your expected winnings per bid are exactly 25 cents.

    So each time you spend 80 cents on something worth 25 cents, you are losing 55 cents.

    Where does that money go?

    “which is a good time for them to launch considering how bad the US economy is.”

    Pyramid schemes are not good for the economy.

26. Comment by t.proia | October 6th, 2008

    you didnt even read bjorns post you dumb bastard. you are never going to make sense…its not a gamble…but your going to need luck..just like the luck your going to need to win an ebay auction…you lost your argument! the terms and conditions you linked is something you typed yourself! go hide in a whole. your like a 3 year old trying to describe calculus…you just don’t know what the hell your talking about… DID YOU DO YOUR RESEARCH? DID YOU CHECK BEST BUY? DID YOU LOOK AT THE STARTING PRICE ON GROOBLI? YOU DONT EVEN HAVE TO SPEND A CREDIT TO SEE THE BETTER DEAL!

    Its NOT A PYRAMID SCHEME!

    PS
    1st- YOUR THE ONLY DUMB ASS WHO WOULD BID 2000 TIMES! that doesn’t MAKE SENSE TO ME WHY YOU WOULD DO THAT! …

    2nd-… with out even spending a credit IN THE EXPRESS AUCTION!!!…LET ME REPEAT MYSELF…IN THE EXPRESS AUCTION..YOUR GETTING A BETTER DEAL…YOU WOULD SEE THAT IF YOU LOOK AT POST 24!

    3rd- DON’T TALK ABOUT SOMETHING OR MAKE UP LIES ABOUT SOMEONES COMPANY….it doesn’t take that much of an IQ to get this…you obviously are a few cards short of a deck… you yourself are a compulsive liar…you hurt HONEST companies reputation…i have no idea what drives you

    not only are you hurting Droobli’s business…your hurting apples along with all the other name brand companies associated with droobli.

    not even i would have the balls to do that!

    BTW $.80 cents * 2000 equals $1,600.00
    invest in a calculator with an IQ that low….

    this right here proves that you are a dumb ass who is full of lies coming out your ass, and that you never got passed the 3rd grade!

    Thanks you for Proving my point!

27. Comment by t.proia | October 6th, 2008

    oh don’t worry about trying to delete all your posts and delete mine or even try to edit yours..i got it all on video tape!

    lol

28. Comment by eaglescout | October 7th, 2008

    “you didnt even read bjorns post you dumb bastard.”

    I did read Björn’s post. (Who happens to have the same IP address as yourself).

    I requested information from Walmart and they are looking into it.

    “you are never going to make sense…its not a gamble…but your going to need luck..just like the luck your going to need to win an ebay auction…”

    No, because if you lose an eBay auction, you don’t pay.

    “you lost your argument! the terms and conditions you linked is something you typed yourself!”

    Look it up.

    “Its NOT A PYRAMID SCHEME!”

    What service is Droobli.com providing? You stand to lose more than you stand to gain in the gambling, and you are deceived into thinking it’s a “reverse auction”; Where’s the value in the fraud?

    If you are an affiliate for Droobli, you get paid by recruiting others. And when they get paid their money goes to you.
    That’s a pyramid. Someone is going to get totally screwed, and it will be 88% of droobli’s affiliates.

    You get paid depending on which business associate package you buy, and you are only qualified to make money if you buy Droobli’s services.

    The information was just removed but it’s still in Google’s cache. Droobli has a long history of doing this, like most scams. AdSurfDaily did this three times before having their assets frozen by the IRS.

    Furthermore, they claim that the packages are used to cover the cost of your website. Well, it doesn’t cost 150 Euros to put up a single webpage. You are being scammed. That money goes to the affiliate that recruited you.

    “1st- YOUR THE ONLY DUMB ASS WHO WOULD BID 2000 TIMES! that doesn’t MAKE SENSE TO ME WHY YOU WOULD DO THAT! …”

    Exactly, you wouldn’t do it because you would lose money. So why would you invite other people to Droobli, if you know they are going to lose their money?

    “2nd-… with out even spending a credit IN THE EXPRESS AUCTION!!!…LET ME REPEAT MYSELF…IN THE EXPRESS AUCTION..YOUR GETTING A BETTER DEAL…YOU WOULD SEE THAT IF YOU LOOK AT POST 24!”

    The Express “auction” is a lottery as well. Droobli takes 75% of the cost of “bidding” and applies the other 25% to covering the price of the item.

    On average, you still lose most of your money.

    “you yourself are a compulsive liar…you hurt HONEST companies reputation…i have no idea what drives you”

    Which honest company is that? By the way, you should read a little bit about Droobli’s “founders”. Find out how honest they are. The fact that they change their General Terms and Conditions every few days should tell you something.

    The fact that they took down the droobli-network information on how compensation works should tell you something, too.

    “BTW $.80 cents * 2000 equals $1,600.00″

    Fixed. Thank you for pointing out the truth for the first time.

    “this right here proves that you are a dumb ass who is full of lies coming out your ass, and that you never got passed the 3rd grade!”

    It proves that I got one calculation wrong. Please let me know if you see any other typos, that is always helpful.

29. Comment by t.proia | October 8th, 2008

    your obviously not hear to discuss droobli…
    me and bjorn have the same IP? Droobli did launch in arizona… from what i know my ISP is all DHCP! (ip address is automatically obtained from the ISP.) If we both have the same ip..witch cant happen w/o an IP conflict…(one of us would no internet if that was the case)… so we both live in arizona you tard. websites use that technology all the time to see the location the network is coming from, i am surprised you don’t know that! didn’t you make this website? don’t tell me you dont know how IP’s work. i used to work for an Internet Service Provider(ISP) myself, so i would know how they work…so dont try and argue with me…ill start throwing all kinds of TCP/IP facts at you!

    “If you are an affiliate for Droobli, you get paid by recruiting others. And when they get paid their money goes to you.
    That’s a pyramid. Someone is going to get totally screwed, and it will be 88% of droobli’s affiliates.”

    you must be talking about a different droobli
    or your at it again with your misleading info…

    i think this is where your confused…maybe this is why you continue to argue even tho your wrong… you do get rewarded every time someone joins as an associate…eventually i could see that part stopping because ….thats not where the money lays..repeat..thats not where the money lays…you get paid everytime someone buys credits also..where the money lays..to do so they have to be connected to you…this is droobli’s way of rewarding your efforts for bringing in customers…i dont see myspace or ebay rewarding anyone for bringing in customers…and if they did there would be alot more than just a few people getting millions of $’s ……. why do you think you need so much luck with the express auction…i honestly see no reason for those comments…

    (main auction) the express auction =
    guarantee of a good deal
    Even if you just spend 1 credit to look at the auction. hell the retail price JUST STARTING is 10% lower according to bjorn. did you compare Best buy…Or even circuit city or any other retail store? Fact: you will save $ no matter…unless your like eaglescout and for NO reason you decide..im bored lets spend money to see the number change even tho i have already saved money by clicking once…(one credit = $.80…if the product is already starting 10% off spending $.55 to get that 10% off is STIll saving you $. (i got the .55 cents by $.80 credit – the $.25 price drop of the item being looked at) 2000 credits would last me years in the express auction. you are right….why would anyone wanna spend $2000 lowing the price of an item? basic math will tell anyone that at $.80 a credit and only having the price go down $.25 each time wouldn’t save money.. why would you try and lower the price yourself? its not designed that way…it lowers over time… even the first person to look at the product is going to get more than 10% off…starting… that equals money saved NO MATTER WHAT.

    (for fun auction) zero auction = need some luck
    (for fun auction) unique bid auction = need to use a little strategy, and have a little luck.

    “Exactly, you wouldn’t do it because you would lose money. So why would you invite other people to Droobli, if you know they are going to lose their money?”
    like i said…they wont lose money…they SAVE money…unless you for some weird ass reason are like…hey im going to lower the price myself instead of wait for others to look at it. there really isnt any strategy… you look at 1 product 1 time…if its not the price you want wait a few hours…cause there will be otheres doing the same…each time someone looks at it the price drops…dont look at an ipod thats worth $150 300 times to make the price go down…if your doing this than your obviously dumb … you already gave me proof that you dont know how to do math… the fact that your saying all this makes me think your an idiot! i hope we never meet..cause people like you get slapped down. your a criminal in my eyes…your one of those people standing outside walmart with a sign protesting against it cause its a better company than yours… where do you work btw?

    you are witness yourself seeing truth remove peoples comments like yours…it takes very little knowledge to realize you dont know what your talking about.

    and your right …i did point out the truth about how your an idiot writing lies on a website in hopes that it will hurt droobli!

    all your information is wrong making it a typo….

    the fact that you made this site makes you dumb…droobli could stop bringing in associates and people are STILL going to make money. thats how it works…

    how do you argue bjorns post? HONESTLY how do you argue that? you have to sign up to become a customer cause it links you to an associate who introduced it to you…its droobli’s way of being able to track and reward its associates… ITS COMPLETELY FREE TO JOIN as a customer….the only money you spend as an associate is to buy credits to hand out to people so they can see droobli and see how legit it is. (its the same as Coca-Cola giving out free bevereges to people in front of a store so people can experience it and hope they like it, and come back for more…thats EXACTLY whats going on in droobli.

    i already know your going to try to the extreme to type misleading information… i do hand it to you tho, you are very good at lieing and pissing people off. i almost wonder if this is your job :S

    anyway im done with you. im just going to wait for the success of droobli to kill this site…it will in time

    good luck in life, i wont need it so don’t say it back…you are the one i feel sorry for.

    PS
    if you don’t believe me ill video tape my screen and walk you thought the process…

    keep writing misleading information and ill keep writing the truth, i have nothing but time

    i want you to call the FBI who ever it takes to show you the truth…cause there just going to back droobli up…sorry

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31. Comment by eaglescout | October 8th, 2008

    To t.proia, AKA Björn, AKA Ser0tonin,

    Since you have the same IP address, you are the same individual. Why do you keep talking about honesty while being blatantly dishonest?

    “your one of those people standing outside walmart with a sign protesting against it cause its a better company than yours”

    No. I like Walmart’s excellent prices. That’s why I’m glad they are not affiliated with Droobli.

32. Comment by t.proia | October 8th, 2008

    i am not ser0tonin who the hell is that? i dont even see his post on here!…i am also not bjorn.

    let me teach you a bit…about what your seeing.
    What is an IP address?

    Every device connected to the public Internet is assigned a unique number known as an Internet Protocol (IP) address. IP addresses consist of four numbers separated by periods (also called a ‘dotted-quad’) and look something like 127.0.0.1.

    Since these numbers are usually assigned to internet service providers within REGION-BASED BLOCKS, an IP address can often be used to IDENTIFY the REGION or country from which a computer is connecting to the Internet. An IP address can sometimes be used to show the user’s GENERAL location.

    Because the numbers may be tedious to deal with, an IP address may also be assigned to a Host name, which is sometimes easier to remember. Hostnames may be looked up to find IP addresses, and vice-versa. At one time ISPs issued one IP address to each user. These are called static IP addresses. Because there is a limited number of IP addresses and with increased usage of the internet ISPs now issue IP addresses in a dynamic fashion out of a pool of IP addresses (Using DHCP). These are referred to as dynamic IP addresses. This also limits the ability of the user to host websites, mail servers, ftp servers, etc. In addition to users connecting to the internet, with virtual hosting, a single machine can act like multiple machines (with multiple domain names and IP addresses).
    ——————————————————-
    for i don’t even know my exact IP…its DHCP…so unless you work for my ISP…your not going to know exact IP’s, but rather General LOCATIONS…you do have proof that we live in arizona! me an bjorn should meet!

    let me tell you a different way to make it even clearer!
    it would be agaisnt the law to know my exact IP…you would have to hack…all you are seeing is where my network is located…witch is in arizona…if he has the same network IP …than all your proving is that me and him have the same service provider and that we both live in arizona…where droobli launched….you still have NO FACTS…you dont know anything about IP’s

    That would be very interesting if walmart isnt with droobli…i personally havent SEEN anything but the walmart gift card…witch are referred as vouchers…

    i still think your full of lies

33. Comment by eaglescout | October 9th, 2008

    It was quite unnecessary to copy and paste this page
    The chances that someone else has your exact IP address are 1 in 4.3 billion.
    It’s not against the law to know your IP address, Tony from Glendale, AZ.

34. Comment by t.proia | October 9th, 2008

    i did copy and paste that. good job. the point i as trying to prove is that YOU think im more than 1 person and using general location to try and back up your lie isnt going to work.
    its against the law to hack peoples computes, witch i know you didnt do cause you dont know my IP but rather my network IP.
    i emailed droobli about the walmart issue, i also emailed walmart to the same email adress you did and got a very different reply.

    To: help@walmart.com
    Droobli sells $5000 Walmart Gift Voutchers

    is it legit? cause there is a guy who thinks that it isn’t legit…and me and him have been aruging for sometime…i honestly think he is misleading alot of people. so any information would be nice!

    http://www.droobli.com

    Dear Tony,

    My name is Grace Anne. I am with the Walmart.com Customer Service Team.
    Thank you for allowing me to assist you today.

    We wanted to let you know that the email you received did not come from
    Walmart.com nor do we endorse the information in the email. We apologize
    for any confusion this email may have caused. We assure you we are
    taking this matter seriously and are looking into it with all due speed
    and diligence.

    Please note that all official Walmart.com emails will come from an email
    address of *@walmart.com. Walmart does not use any outside email
    systems. If you receive any emails claiming to be Walmart and they came
    from a different email address please do not trust that email.

    We apologize for any inconvenience you may have experienced.

    Thank you for visiting Walmart.com. We appreciate the opportunity to
    serve you and look forward to your next visit.

    If we may be of further assistance, please email us at help@walmart.com.
    We’re here to serve you 7 days a week!

    Sincerely,

    Grace Anne
    Customer Service at Walmart.com

35. Comment by t.proia | October 9th, 2008

    btw you still never answered bjorns question. and where did you find the Terms and Conditions to droobli? you are full of shit man.

    is there a special function only you can use on this site that tells you our IP…thats kinda scary…why do you need that? lol anyway guess it cant hurt if you know peoples general location. if droobli is a scam, witch it is not. i am working to find actual proof. i have found none, and neither have you. you are a bit confused. every link you have provided has been a link that links to your site somewhere…those arent facts…to make me believe you have to have outside links showing me that its a scam..witch there are none. dont even try to link me any forums based on peoples opinions cause thats all that is out there. find me Factual information from LEGIT sites that list droobli as a scam …something government! not forums based on OPINION.

36. Comment by t.proia | October 9th, 2008

    hmmm
    

37. Comment by eaglescout | October 9th, 2008

    Tony Proia, the response you got from Grace Anne is a standard cut-and-paste reply. I got the same answer (different name). Then I replied and told them it didn’t answer my question, the second time around they gave me a more specific response which is posted as another entry.

    What question did you ask me as Björn, that you want answered?

    “where did you find the Terms and Conditions to droobli?”

    http://us.droobli.com/info/13-GTC

38. Comment by hilarious | October 10th, 2008

    t.proia , that evil thing you use to read the internet called a browser willfully gives your ip out whenever you visit a site, it is often recorded to provide accurate info as to how many unique visitors a site has.

    and todays major isps DO use DHCP. but youre likely on cable and cable modems don’t get new ips unless they are rebooted and often don’t even then. its not like dial up when you got a new ip each time. also ips don’t give general location, they are unique to each modem connected to an isp. don’t you think its rather unlikely that you and 2 other droobli defenders are restarting your cable modems and getting the same ips and then all randomly deciding to come to this site?

    and I’ve heard your silly “you must work for ebay and you’re scared” argument on other sites (must be droobli propoganda, its pretty common) if you think eBay is afraid of droobli you are seriously in trouble.

39. Comment by t.proia | October 10th, 2008

    dude. im not bjorn lol
    also you ONLY KNOW MY GENERAL LOCATION…you don’t know my exact address…i know this for a fact. so quit using your IP BS to try and back up your false facts.

    btw i see nothing wrong with the terms and conditions. Also…if your really that dumb…and don’t know how to scroll up…ill copy and paste what bjorn said.

    “Hey eaglescout! Check out best buy.com look for this product Garmin nuvi 760 (which is a GPS for your car). The RETAIL price for this item at BEST BUY is 499.99 before taxes! Look at droobli.com under express auction and find this product (Garmin nuvi 760 GPS, same product) AND the STARTING PRICE ON GROOBLI IS 430.00 US DOLLARS………. STARTING PRICE….. ALREADY 12% off at the STARTING PRICE. before anyone looks at it and chooses to see the price. The product comes with a warranty, brand new! not used, or refurbished. Dont know what else to tell you because i read your previous comments and you really dont make any sense…….. Sorry DuBli is going to take some of your business over at eBay………. Walmart is along for the ride at DuBli along with sony, apple, louie viton, gucci, lowes, home depot, samsung, did i say wal-mart? lol dont remember but i know you can find a wal-mart in every major city, hell probably every small town. Oh, and some other small companies you may have heard of… such as: Nokia, panasonic, Nintendo! So sorry to burst your bubbly, heck ill give you some credits so you can get somethin nice for yourself (Christmas is coming up). One more thing the products from the 7 different locations are shipped by some other companies you still havent heard of like………….. FedEx, UPS, and DHL. dont know what else to tell you but wait…… that garmin GPS is now 351.75 cents!”

40. Comment by Serious ? | October 10th, 2008

    I’m not with Droobli, but I am considering it. One thing I MUST know is:

    Is Andy Bowdoin involved with Droobli at all? If so, how? As much detail as possible please?!?

    Here is why I ask:

    - There is a TON of BS out there that every MLM or Network Marketing Company is a SCAM. That is NOT true at all!

    - What is true is that Andy Bowdoin IS A SCAM ARTIST! I know way too many people that lost WAY too much money in asd and other “surf the net and get paid” schemes.

    - Droobli does have a product, so they are definatly not ponzi. I really wish people would learn the meaning of words before they used them….but I know some wishes are never meant to come true….

    - Droobli is not a domestic based company. That should have any good network marketer nervous.

    - Droobli’s reverse auctions are very similar to the lottery. Doesn’t make them a SCAM. Makes them fun. Might mean I never win, but I would have fun trying. I might never win the lottery, but that won’t stop me from buying a ticket from time to time. Hell, my favorite vacation spot is Las Vegas. Good thing retarded bloggers with far too much time on their hands weren’t around when that city got its start. It would be known as “SCAM CITY USA”. And no one would ever go.

    So all of this is a rant to say:

    If Andy is in, then I am out. He will find a way to destroy Droobli…Even if it is good right now. If he is not, I still have yet to see the scam here and will probably join.

41. Comment by eaglescout | October 11th, 2008

    To Serious ?

    Andy Bowdoin, to the best of my knowledge, is not involved with Droobli at all.

    “There is a TON of BS out there that every MLM or Network Marketing Company is a SCAM. That is NOT true at all!”

    You are correct. Not all multi-level marketing involves a scam. However, most have been. Even the the companies that aren’t currently scams, actually were at some point.

    “Droobli does have a product, so they are definatly not ponzi. I really wish people would learn the meaning of words before they used them….but I know some wishes are never meant to come true….”

    http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Government-IT/US-Seizes-Property-in-Alleged-Internet-Ponzi-Scheme/

    Andy Bowdoin’s AdSurfDaily had a product, ad packages.

    Since ASD creates no significant new wealth by selling advertising to purchasers outside of its investor-members, authorities claim ASD is a classic Ponzi scheme, using money from new investors to pay off earlier investors before the whole thing collapses.

    “Droobli’s reverse auctions are very similar to the lottery. Doesn’t make them a SCAM. Makes them fun. Might mean I never win, but I would have fun trying.”

    That’s right. The difference is when you buy the lottery, you know you are betting.

    “Hell, my favorite vacation spot is Las Vegas. Good thing retarded bloggers with far too much time on their hands weren’t around when that city got its start. It would be known as ‘SCAM CITY USA’. And no one would ever go.”

    There’s nothing wrong with going to Las Vegas or gambling per se. It’s simply wrong for GroobLi to pretend it is a auction, when it’s actually gambling.

    It’s also pretty common knowledge that you don’t get into droobli for the “shopping”, you do it for the promises of earning getting money.

    It’s been six days, and GroobLi has only sold an average of 80 bids per item.

    Of the sold items, the price barely went down beyond $20 of the original.

    So the total profit, made so far is $360.

    If you divide it by the number of top level employees, Bobby Jensen, Dennis Hoffman, Andreas Kuche, Preben Westergaard, Frank Naske.

    That’s $57 for each of the five top employees for 6 days.
    or $7.20 a day.

    If we assume they are making money on the 33 other items, that’s $374 for each manager per day, or $46 an hour.

    But there are at least 300 affiliate pages in the United States and 5000 affiliate pages in Europe.

    For each affiliate package, they earn $295 or $1600 (it used to be $795, $1595, and $3195 http://drooblibusinessassociate.com/GROOBLI_COMPENSATION_PLAN.html). That comes out to about $487,450 just in the United States.

    So, Droobli has raked-in $487,450 from one-page marketing packages and only $1,870 from their shopping site; in the U.S.

    But they’ve only “auctioned-off” 6 items.

    So the only way they can afford to pay their “business affiliates”, is through the marketing packages of the people down the line, and the renewal fees.

    “If [Andy Bowdoin] is not [involved], I still have yet to see the scam here and will probably join.”

    It’s your choice. Go for it.

42. Comment by JustChecking | October 13th, 2008

    I followed this site from scam.com and I can help but laugh at those conversation created by three-ring circus: tony proia, ser0tonin and bjorn bjerk. What a croc of sh**!!! All his replies are nothing but sh++ replies: worthless, useless and smell just like scam sh++. His made-up “typos” are typical of trying hard to elude people of thinking that 3 different people are responding. If you think GroobLi is like a second coming to you then good for you. However, please don’t hurt the average American families who truly are looking for extra income and got sucked in and shelling out $800 to $3000+ to start a bogus biz. And yes, that $800 or $3000+ membership fee is borrowed from family members or friends. You see the negative ripple effects you creating???

43. Comment by Endor | October 14th, 2008

    Congrats eaglescout on getting this page to #4 on Google when searching for “Droobli Scam”. Actually you should probably thank t.proia/bjorn bjerk/ser0tonin too for posting so many comments, I’m sure it wouldn’t be this highly rated if it wasn’t for him!

    What I find most hilarious about Droobli is that it seems like the more referrals people send to Droobli, the lower your chances are of actually winning anything. Take the Unique Bid “auction”. For a $500 item, a small number of users could spend *at least* $4000 to cover all possible values between $0.25 and $500.00. And if no one picks a unique value (because all possible values between $0.25 and $500 were bid on by 2+ people) then no one “wins” the right to buy the item and Droobli pockets all the cash. What an awesome deal.

    While lotteries may be a tax on people who are bad at math, at least they know what they’re getting into. Droobli is just plain maliciously evil.

44. Comment by Pilkington | October 14th, 2008

    Hah, I’m not interested in Droobli at all (even if I wanted to start a business I already know a MLM when I see one), but I just wanted to say that this is one of the funniest exchanges I’ve seen in a long time, and I’m glad it’s so visible to anyone who is seriously considering going into Droobli. Please, anyone who has money to spend, invest it wisely or go buy something nice for yourself and your loved ones. People like t. proia don’t deserve your money.

    Oh, and if you want to laugh at idiots who are trying to rip you off, there is a guy who draws comics trying to get people into the Droobli thing over at http://comicstripclub.com/. Electronic Tigers. It’s a painful, sexist, racist, conservative webcomic that is currently trying to get people into Droobli. It’s fun.

45. Comment by Bootstrap | October 15th, 2008

    Hey, I like that comic – they’ve had some funny ones up there. Wouldn’t call it racist; they’ve made it clear that they’re riffing on their own experiences.

    Of course I agreed that Droobli is clearly a scam, and agree that no one should be promoting it at all. Just wanted to say that comic was funny, for whatever that’s worth.

    Keep up the good work, eaglescout!

46. Comment by Ron Saunders | October 20th, 2008

    Where do you get your facts? Everything you say here is a LIE!
    I met the owners yesterday in Atlanta, and I got the facts. Your lies above is hurting my business. What don’t you come clean on your real agenda and let people know the people paying YOU to say this junk? Tell the truth. As a professional it sickens me to see a good company be tore town by someone that holds an agenda. I have done my research and I know why you are spreading lies, and many of us will start exposing the TRUTH about YOU..Too bad

    I have spent 21 years in direct sales and built organizations in the hundreds of thousands, and GroobLi is the best financed company of any of them I have seen.

    Ask yourself, How can a 5 Year old company be a scam?

    Your lies:

    1)We do business in CA!!!!Always have
    2)The shipping of the products are less than shipping cost on walmart, Macy and others. The cost for a xbox360 to be shipped to Florida is 2 points which = $4.95
    3)This is not gambling. Nothing is Random. There is no chance involved and you clearly see what your purchasing.
    4)Everything you said about the Stock of this company is false. You do not even have the names of the people correct.

    You are writing lies and slander is criminal and I pray it will catch up with you someday

    If people want to read the truth, they can go to
    http://37minutes2freedom.com
    they can get all the information they need, and I would be willing to bet $1,000,000 US that you can not back up your so called facts above..

    You are trying to destroy a 5 year old company with an owner that has a Servants Heart. GroobLi is about helping people and you are trying to destroy the opportunity for people to make a live.

    I will pray that you will retract your lies, and let me know the real agenda you have, and YOU Know what that is.

    Sorry, but this is a real company and they do not make “Deals” with networkers. Everyone starts at the same place, and they EARN what they receive, and that is how Honest Companies do it.

    Be Blessed,
    Ron Saunders

47. Comment by grasshopperDublin | October 21st, 2008

    I can’t believe this discussion. Even Droobli’s own promotional video shows that they collect way more money than the products own list price. How do you think people can be paid “down-the-line” unless they get people to sign up for the silver package or buy credits.

    As long as people know they are basically shopping with an overall disadvantage, let them go for it… but let’s make sure the word gets out that it is “luck” based shopping at best.

    Remember they call it “fun shopping” .. it is a fun model of shopping after all, so good for you Droobli. If you can get enough people involved in word-of-mouth type selling to people with no brains, go for it. The financial CEO’s on Wall Street would be proud

    Blessings back at you Ron, and good luck

48. Comment by Ron Saunders | October 22nd, 2008

    What every one is missing here is that in the EU, they have 2 million customers and only 14000 virtual franchise owners, and in the US, there are many thousands more customers than virtual franchise owners. How this be called Multi-Level when there are NO levels involved? MLM is you get paid on multi levels of marketing, this has NO levels, no payout anything like that. This is no different than the Subway Franchise I used to own. I paid $50,000 at that time for the right to start my business, and I had to pay for advertising. The credits we will receive with GroobLi are used for ADVERTISING. Customers signup for free and we give them FREE bidding credits so they can see the price, and be a part of the auction.

    How come 14000 plus people in Europe are active in the company, and no one that is a part of it is screaming foul?

    Go to the US auction site. My ID is ron27 and you will see I on an auction 2 nights ago, and got a 32″ HD, LCD, Surround Sound TV for $242.50 and it only cost me $39.95 to have shipped 2 days service to Palm Beach County, FL. I have the receipt from the credit card and the company that I could post.

    The information on this site is wrong, and in the US, slander is criminal.

    As a person that spent the last 5 years battling cancer because of my service in the military, I can not go out and work a 12 hour normal JOB to make a living for my family, and GroobLi has given me a chance to provide that income as any father/husband would want to do.

    This site alone has cost me over $2500 in commissions so far of good people that are scared to join my business, and 99% of the postings are not the truth.

    Anyone that goes to the auction site and joins for FREE, and then spends a couple of dollars US or less in Euro’s will see that they are getting great deals, brand name products with full warranties, and the shipping cost are very, very little and not has stated on this site.

    In traditional network marketing, you have to signup 10,0000 people taking your juice, pill, or buying your soap to make any money, and you are always recruiting, and begging family and friends to signup to erase the dropouts. In GroobLi, a normal, every day person can learn how to find 3 business minded people and make a good living. Our income is 98% based long term on customers, and NOT on selling a virtual franchise. Almost everyone can do that. We tell people on our calls, if you do not want to learn how to find 3 people to partner in business with you that we do not want you to pay your $795-$3100 US to be a virtual franchise.

    I have personally met the Founder, The Chairman of the Board, the US Sales Leaders, and been to their meeting in Atlanta, GA, and I would be proud to take business minded people to their meetings. They do not hype the business or give you a bunch of BS. They are very conservative in nature and just damn good people.

    I am not sure how long it will take to prove to the posters of this blog that GroobLi is real, and not here to hurt anyone, no one, not customers or franchises. I will be the first to post when good things happen, and if bad things happen, I will post that also.

    I only want the truth to come out.

    Any one can call me at 561.972.4093 and I will give them the honest facts up to that very moment.. Good or Bad, I will state what I know. So far, I have only experience the good.

    Business is Business and there will be up and downs, glitches, and slow downs, but GroobLi has the capital, the business mgt team, the support team, the programming team, the legal team to solve all situations professional and honestly when dealing with the virtual franchisee, and their customers.

    Let the facts tell the story and not Opinions. Facts are Facts and Opinions are worth nothing unless they are based on FACTS.

    God Bless Everyone,
    Ron Saunders
    Jupiter, FL

49. Comment by eaglescout | October 22nd, 2008

    To Ron Saunders,

    “Where do you get your facts? Everything you say here is a LIE!”

    OK, Ron you got me. Just like Tony Proia.

    “I met the owners yesterday in Atlanta, and I got the facts.”

    Really? What are they?

    “Your lies above is hurting my business.”

    Which lies? And what business?

    “What don’t you come clean on your real agenda and let people know the people paying YOU to say this junk?”

    That assumes that I’ve given you a fake agenda; I haven’t. If you think someone is paying me to discuss this scam, then find out who it is and get back to me.

    “Tell the truth. As a professional it sickens me to see a good company be tore town by someone that holds an agenda.”

    If you were a professional, you could start by writing like one. What exactly do you provide of value, by the way?

    “I have done my research and I know why you are spreading lies, and many of us will start exposing the TRUTH about YOU..Too bad”

    No, that would be good. I insist that you and your “professional” friends come to my blog and post more of your GroobLi spam.

    “I have spent 21 years in direct sales and built organizations in the hundreds of thousands, and GroobLi is the best financed company of any of them I have seen.”

    I don’t see how that is relevant. Do you think badly financed companies are automatically bad?

    “Ask yourself, How can a 5 Year old company be a scam?”

    There are many ways. And a few of them are listed here.

    “Your lies:

    1)We do business in CA!!!!Always have”

    That’s a straw man argument. I never said you didn’t do business in California. However, I did say the GroobLi site operates in the UK and the General Terms and Conditions are very specific about that.

    “2)The shipping of the products are less than shipping cost on walmart, Macy and others. The cost for a xbox360 to be shipped to Florida is 2 points which = $4.95″

    I posted this article on September 25th, 2008. It’s not my fault that GroobLi changes its scheme every few days.

    “3)This is not gambling. Nothing is Random. There is no chance involved and you clearly see what your purchasing.”

    There is no way to know whether you’ve won a GroobLi lottery bid until you spend your GroobLi credit. Whether you win depends on how many other players there are and how much money has been spent. So, yes. Playing on GroobLi is gambling.

    “4)Everything you said about the Stock of this company is false.”

    Such as?

    “You do not even have the names of the people correct.”

    Such as?

    “You are writing lies and slander is criminal and I pray it will catch up with you someday”

    I don’t believe in your god, so your prayers are meaningless. More importantly, if you believe in a benevolent god, then I have nothing to worry about, because you are the one scamming people.

    “If people want to read the truth, they can go to
    37minutes2freedom.com
    they can get all the information they need, and I would be willing to bet $1,000,000 US that you can not back up your so called facts above…”

    I’ll take you up on that offer. Find an arbiter, put the money in an escrow account, and sign a contract.

    Oh, and please stop spamming your affiliate site.

    “You are trying to destroy a 5 year old company with an owner that has a Servants Heart.”

    What is that supposed to mean?

    “GroobLi is about helping people and you are trying to destroy the opportunity for people to make a live.”

    That’s partially true. GroobLi is helping professional scammers make a living. And I’m trying to destroy that opportunity.

    “I will pray that you will retract your lies,”

    I will pray that you stop being hypocritical.

    “and let me know the real agenda you have, and YOU Know what that is.”

    I thought that you already knew what my agenda is. Why don’t you tell everyone.

    “Sorry, but this is a real company and they do not make ‘Deals’ with networkers.”

    I’m not sure what that is supposed to mean. Would you be more specific?

    “Everyone starts at the same place, and they EARN what they receive, and that is how Honest Companies do it.”

    That’s how dishonest companies do it, too.

    “Be Blessed,
    Ron Saunders”

    Pretending to worship God is no substitute for actual honesty.

50. Comment by eaglescout | October 22nd, 2008

    “What every one is missing here is that in the EU, they have 2 million customers and only 14000 virtual franchise owners, and in the US, there are many thousands more customers than virtual franchise owners.”

    That doesn’t matter because the bulk of the money comes from selling Droobli distribution licenses.

    “How this be called Multi-Level when there are NO levels involved? MLM is you get paid on multi levels of marketing, this has NO levels, no payout anything like that.”

    I didn’t claim GroobLi was a multi-level marketing firm. I’m simply saying GroobLi is a scam. But yes, GroobLi is a multi-level marketing scam. Most of your money comes from sign-ups down the line.

    “This is no different than the Subway Franchise I used to own. I paid $50,000 at that time for the right to start my business, and I had to pay for advertising.”

    With Subway you make money off the sandwiches, not by selling more franchises.

    “The credits we will receive with GroobLi are used for ADVERTISING.”

    So what?

    “Customers signup for free and we give them FREE bidding credits so they can see the price, and be a part of the auction.”

    That’s because if you didn’t give people free gambling credits, they probably wouldn’t waste their money on GroobLi’s limited item selection.

    How come 14000 plus people in Europe are active in the company, and no one that is a part of it is screaming foul?

    Really? You must not have read the article. It’s the third link down. http://mdug.es/2006/10/droobli-la-supuesta-competencia-de-ebay/ (Droobli, the alleged competition to eBay).

    “Go to the US auction site. My ID is ron27 and you will see I on an auction 2 nights ago, and got a 32? HD, LCD, Surround Sound TV for $242.50 and it only cost me $39.95 to have shipped 2 days service to Palm Beach County, FL. I have the receipt from the credit card and the company that I could post.”

    I believe you. If you want to post it anyway, I’ll be happy to make note of it in a future article.

    Nevertheless, it’s still a lottery. And GroobLi doesn’t present itself as such. In fact, it changes its own rules every few days.

    “The information on this site is wrong, and in the US, slander is criminal.”

    It’s not slander if GroobLi changed its modus operandi.

    “As a person that spent the last 5 years battling cancer because of my service in the military, I can not go out and work a 12 hour normal JOB to make a living for my family, and GroobLi has given me a chance to provide that income as any father/husband would want to do.”

    I hope that you are on your way to recovery, and you have my sympathy in *that* regard. But, that’s not an excuse to hurt other people.

    If GroobLi starts changing its business practices for the better, I’ll be sure to acknowledge that as well.

    “This site alone has cost me over $2500 in commissions so far of good people that are scared to join my business, and 99% of the postings are not the truth.”

    Well, we do provide a little more information about GroobLi’s background than most affiliate sites. If you can provide enough evidence that GroobLi is not attempting to mislead consumers, and that its main source of income isn’t license distribution, I might start sending people your way.

    But you should take a moment to think about whether it was this site that cost you the commissions, or whether it simply helped your potential clients find the information faster. It took me over 3 days to find a lot of this information. Some of it was no longer accessible from GroobLi’s servers so I had to find alternative means to retrieve it. I also had to synthesize information gathered in several languages and reconstruct GroobLi’s history; which would otherwise not be available to English speakers.

    It’s possible that some information is now outdated, since this article was written before the U.S. version of GroobLi launched. I’m willing to write a new article with updated information, but I don’t think it will be significantly different. Some numbers here and there will change (mostly because it won’t be in Euros), and because I had to speculate where there were gaps. Otherwise it’s mostly a series of misleading scams.

    The owners of GroobLi are associated with other scams, so why should I believe that they’ve finally come clean?

    “Anyone that goes to the auction site and joins for FREE, and then spends a couple of dollars US or less in Euro’s will see that they are getting great deals, brand name products with full warranties, and the shipping cost are very, very little and not has stated on this site.”

    This article, as I mentioned before, was put together before they redid GroobLi twice. If GroobLi changes for the better, I’ll be sure to post updates.

    “In traditional network marketing, you have to signup 10,0000 people taking your juice, pill, or buying your soap to make any money, and you are always recruiting, and begging family and friends to signup to erase the dropouts.”

    Right. That’s how I learned about GroobLi.

    “In GroobLi, a normal, every day person can learn how to find 3 business minded people and make a good living. Our income is 98% based long term on customers, and NOT on selling a virtual franchise.”

    Can you corroborate that? The publicly available statistics show otherwise. (I’ve written about that on comment #41).

    “Almost everyone can do that. We tell people on our calls, if you do not want to learn how to find 3 people to partner in business with you that we do not want you to pay your $795-$3100 US to be a virtual franchise.”

    Why don’t you want people who don’t want to learn how to find 3 partners? Sounds to me like you don’t want people who can’t get commissions for your down-line.

    “I have personally met the Founder, The Chairman of the Board, the US Sales Leaders, and been to their meeting in Atlanta, GA, and I would be proud to take business minded people to their meetings. They do not hype the business or give you a bunch of BS. They are very conservative in nature and just damn good people.”

    What are the meetings for? All you are doing is promoting GroobLi, so why would they need you in a meeting?

    “I am not sure how long it will take to prove to the posters of this blog that GroobLi is real, and not here to hurt anyone, no one, not customers or franchises. I will be the first to post when good things happen, and if bad things happen, I will post that also.”

    I find it more believable that you, Ron, are not out to hurt anyone.

    “I only want the truth to come out.”

    Good. I look forward to hearing more from you.

    “Any one can call me at 561.972.4093 and I will give them the honest facts up to that very moment.. Good or Bad, I will state what I know. So far, I have only experience the good.”

    Then I encourage people to call you. You may have information that is not available to me.

    “Business is Business and there will be up and downs, glitches, and slow downs, but GroobLi has the capital, the business mgt team, the support team, the programming team, the legal team to solve all situations professional and honestly when dealing with the virtual franchisee, and their customers.”

    Please don’t get me started regarding their legal team. Legal documents are supposed to be clear and specific. Not obfuscated, vague and misleading.

    “Let the facts tell the story and not Opinions. Facts are Facts and Opinions are worth nothing unless they are based on FACTS.”

    I agree.

51. Comment by Ron Saunders | October 22nd, 2008

    EagleScout, I do believe you are out for the truth and not being malice based on your comments. I can only post what I see and believe to be the truth. Over time, as I learn more, and I am more involved, I will make post on what is happening in the US with the company. No matter what the facts, good or bad, I will be straight forward and honest. I do not want to see anyone be hurt. I have been hurt by mlm scams in the past, and it it not fun.

    The information that I have posted is the truth as I know it as of today. I never like to say anyone is wrong, but in this case, I would love to be right, and you be wrong..LOL

    Your service is actually good, because you allow both sides of the story to be posted, and I appreciate that.

    I will be in Dallas this weekend with the owner, and I will ask about the article about, and I will report back what I find out

    Thanks,
    Ron Saunders

52. Comment by eaglescout | October 23rd, 2008

    “The information that I have posted is the truth as I know it as of today. I never like to say anyone is wrong, but in this case, I would love to be right, and you be wrong..LOL”

    I hope I’m wrong too, in a way. I don’t like it when people with good intentions get deceived.

    “I will be in Dallas this weekend with the owner, and I will ask about the article about, and I will report back what I find out”.

    That would be interesting. Just remember this article is slightly outdated.

    Other information might be more relevant, for example, regarding GroobLi Spain’s collapse (I think Denmark collapsed, too), the cost of their affiliate packages compared to the actual maintenance costs, and an in-depth financial statement describing the volume of revenue from paid bids vs. paid advertising packages.

    Thanks for offering, and good luck.

53. Comment by Gene | October 29th, 2008

    The auctions are just some of the more popular aspects about
    the company. Now keep in mind they have a shop coming the first of the year as well, and I understand that one can simply purchase products there and being that these come directly from the manufacturers there could be considerable savings as well.
    I would say the company had some bugs to work out in shipping and different aspects of the operations but over time it has been worked out to the best of my knowledge. So what has come here to the US is a tested proven business model. Also in the US they will be drawing from domestic manufacturers for their products but keep in mind this will be global so buyer beware you will have the option to buy globally.
    I mean obviously if you want to buy something half way around the world you will have to pay the shipping.
    A group of us did go to the Chicago meeting for the launch and were very impressed with the owner and the things they had to say.
    In our upline in the business we’ve had contact with Tom who was actually asked to do some of the software work for the company here and went to Berlin himself and is currently working on that aspect for them here. He had no intentions on doing the business but looked it over and thought this is really something and did decide to go for it.
    As far as I’ve been told is that the company can operate in all 50 states.
    Remember to buy when the price is right!
    Hmmm! Sounds like a game show.
    For more info on how to join go to. http://www.liveliberty.ws/dugold

    Gene

54. Comment by inzider | October 30th, 2008

    Please correct me if i missed something:

    1. A person pays up to 1,999 EU to join and the referrer and others who joined before them get commissions? No product exchanges hands?

    2. People pay to see a product before they bid on it?
    a. Does that mean that everyone is paying for a TV or
    camera for example and one person “wins” it?
    b. a fee or bonus is paid to the referrer just for views of the products? No product exchanges hands again?

    3. Does that above mean that Droobli can walk into WalMart, Target, BestBuy or whatever, and buy products at the retail price and simply discount them on the fact that people are paying to view them?

    4. Even better, Droobli may be getting volume discounts and they are just paying commissions on the product views and keeping the rest?

    This is a spectacular online money game if my understanding is correct. “A fool and his money are easily parted.”

    Imagine if you walked into you local electronic store and they asked you for a $1 to look at an iPod before you can buy it. I have to say that the “brass” of these guys is impressive.

55. Comment by Julio | October 30th, 2008

    I mess with Nigerian scammers for sport. There is not one part of this that doesn’t smell. I especially like the claim that they’ll be bigger than Google. If you invest in this then I would suspect that Barry Bonds hit you with the stupid stick. Read up on Ponzi; he was well respected prior to his house of cards collapsing, but collapse it did along with his reputation. The amazing thing is he just wouldn’t admit it was a scam even when the evidence was simply damning. You people that sign on for this stuff amaze me. Whenever we try to warn Nigerian 419 victims we get the same response; denial. Oh, well.

56. Comment by Ms. Judith | October 30th, 2008

    t.proia!
    Your comment “1st- YOUR THE ONLY DUMB ASS WHO WOULD BID 2000 TIMES! that doesn’t MAKE SENSE TO ME WHY YOU WOULD DO THAT! …” made me LMAO! Thank you for that!!!!

    eaglescout
    Seriously….you make yourself sound mentally challenged.

    ANYONE…so my one question…In the US, where do these products ship from?

57. Comment by Ms. Judith | October 30th, 2008

    eaglescout:

    Your post on ” GroobLi Spain’s collapse (I think Denmark collapsed, too)”

    Why don’t you provide the articles? Is it because you just make stuff up?

    No need to answer unless you provide facts.

58. Comment by eaglescout | October 30th, 2008

    Gene,

    “The auctions are just some of the more popular aspects about
    the company. Now keep in mind they have a shop coming the first of the year as well, and I understand that one can simply purchase products there and being that these come directly from the manufacturers there could be considerable savings as well.”

    What is there besides the fake auctions and multi-level marketing?

    “I would say the company had some bugs to work out in shipping and different aspects of the operations but over time it has been worked out to the best of my knowledge.”

    Whenever someone publicly complains about GroobLi, GroobLi deletes or hides all traces of its offending practices.

    “So what has come here to the US is a tested proven business model.”

    If they collapsed in Spain and promised to be traded on the London Stock Exchange, it’s not exactly proven.

    “Also in the US they will be drawing from domestic manufacturers for their products but keep in mind this will be global so buyer beware you will have the option to buy globally. I mean obviously if you want to buy something half way around the world you will have to pay the shipping.”

    True, but some of the shipping costs posted when they launched were unreasonable and all were hidden from plain sight.

    “A group of us did go to the Chicago meeting for the launch and were very impressed with the owner and the things they had to say.”

    Are you planning on sharing?

    “In our upline in the business we’ve had contact with Tom who was actually asked to do some of the software work for the company here and went to Berlin himself and is currently working on that aspect for them here. He had no intentions on doing the business but looked it over and thought this is really something and did decide to go for it.”

    The fact that someone decided to design software for GroobLi doesn’t say much. You also didn’t explain why Tom was interested in working with GroobLi.

    “As far as I’ve been told is that the company can operate in all 50 states.”

    No… It’s illegal in California due to the gaming (gambling) elements.

    “Remember to buy when the price is right!
    Hmmm! Sounds like a game show.”

    Yes, not very original.

    “For more info on how to join go to. http://www.liveliberty.ws/dugold”

    GroobLi spam.

59. Comment by eaglescout | October 30th, 2008

    To insider,

    “Please correct me if i missed something:

    1. A person pays up to 1,999 EU to join and the referrer and others who joined before them get commissions? No product exchanges hands?”

    Pretty much. You pay to advertise for GroobLi, which doesn’t make any sense.

    “2. People pay to see a product before they bid on it?
    a. Does that mean that everyone is paying for a TV or
    camera for example and one person “wins” it?”

    Correct. It’s a lottery in various forms.

    “b. a fee or bonus is paid to the referrer just for views of the products? No product exchanges hands again?”

    That’s a harsh way to put it, but yes.

    “3. Does that above mean that Droobli can walk into WalMart, Target, BestBuy or whatever, and buy products at the retail price and simply discount them on the fact that people are paying to view them?”

    They are not affiliated with Walmart, so everyone who buys GroobLi credits, or GroobLi gambling chips (as I prefer to call them) is subsidizing the “discounts”.

    “4. Even better, Droobli may be getting volume discounts and they are just paying commissions on the product views and keeping the rest?”

    On some products, maybe, but Walmart claims not to be affiliated with GroobLi, despite the image that GroobLi tries to present. I’ve also seen GroobLi selling vacation coupons (which are usually free anyway) and GroobLi credits (which are basically worthless gambling tokens).

    “This is a spectacular online money game if my understanding is correct. ‘A fool and his money are easily parted.’

    Imagine if you walked into you local electronic store and they asked you for a $1 to look at an iPod before you can buy it. I have to say that the “brass” of these guys is impressive.”

    I think the worst part of it is all the people who know it’s a scam, but feign outrage and knowingly participate in it. Some of them have actually posted here.

60. Comment by eaglescout | October 30th, 2008

    To Julio,

    “The amazing thing is he just wouldn’t admit it was a scam even when the evidence was simply damning. You people that sign on for this stuff amaze me. Whenever we try to warn Nigerian 419 victims we get the same response; denial. Oh, well.”

    I think some people signing up are actually fooled or coerced into it by “friends” or acquaintances. They may not realize it’s a scam because it is well-marketed; or they may prefer to ignore the possibility because of the promise of quick and easy money, or because they’ve sunk too much money and they want to make it back.

    Others are more dishonest, like Michelle Schartz and Judith, who pretend to be outraged, and bring up God or religion because some victims are actually swayed by their irrelevant “arguments”.

61. Comment by eaglescout | October 30th, 2008

    To Judith,

    “t.proia!
    Your comment “1st- YOUR THE ONLY DUMB ASS WHO WOULD BID 2000 TIMES! that doesn’t MAKE SENSE TO ME WHY YOU WOULD DO THAT! …” made me LMAO! Thank you for that!!!!

    eaglescout
    Seriously….you make yourself sound mentally challenged.”

    And you actually might be. I wasn’t saying I would bid 2000 times. That’s a straw-man fallacy and you actually fell for it.

    I urge you to try harder next time you want to make a personal attack.

62. Comment by eaglescout | October 30th, 2008

    “Your post on ‘GroobLi Spain’s collapse (I think Denmark collapsed, too)’

    “Why don’t you provide the articles?”

    What articles?

    “Is it because you just make stuff up?”

    If you could be more specific with your questions, I’ll try to answer them.

    “No need to answer unless you provide facts.”

    When you actually ask something relevant, I’ll try. As it is, you are engaging in loaded questions and straw man arguments.

    If you are referring to my questions for Ron Saunders, then you might do well to remember that I am asking Ron to inquire about these things; I’m not merely presenting them as facts.

    You would do well to work on your reading comprehension or your honesty, since one or both of them is lacking.

    Please do stop trying to misrepresent what I wrote. It’s misleading and you are wasting your time.

63. Comment by eaglescout | October 30th, 2008

    Here’s a little video for Judith by the former manager for GroobLi Spain:

    Santi Fuentes apologizing to his downline for leaving GroobLi for FinanzasForex
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2Zpix-0kZc

    Santi Fuentes claiming GroobLi is the competition to eBay:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqyGGyH9r_4

    And an article on fraudulent schemes, GroobLi Spain, and Santi Fuentes:
    http://www.estafasmlm.com/empresas-mlm/droobli/santi-fuentes-no-se-responsabiliza-del-fraude-mlm-de-droobli-ni-de-los-danos-economicos-causados-a-los-distribuidores/

64. Comment by Gene | October 30th, 2008

    Well, show us documented evidence of a collapse.
    If so, what about the rest of Europe? Seems to work
    for them. I think that’s a pretty good record.

    Actually in the US it’s $3,195 for a Gold license.
    I don’t know what the exchange rate in EUs is.
    We do give some credits away to encourage people to try out
    the auctions for free.
    I think that is a reasonable business practice for a new venture.
    Do you want to try? You saw my
    site didn’t you? Have you ever tried out a free sample
    of anything to see if you liked it?
    By the way the credits should be considered as inventory.
    A Gold member gets 6,000 of the credits which is a $4,800.00 value if
    you do the math. 80 cents x 6,000
    Now since it is network marketing of course we as associates
    do the marketing which is an element of our business and much
    can be written off.

    I wouldn’t call the auctions a lottery because you can buy at any time you bid. When you shop
    or know of a sale, you usually have to pay something to get your product besides it’s cost.
    I mean you have to expend some energy to get to the store either your own by walking or in the nature
    of spent gas. Why not spend a credit and see what kind of deal is available. This is a good time to try
    during the holidays. Most will be buying any how. Look around come back to my site and see if you can buy you camera cheaper. If not what’s 80 cents. Even if you spent 100 credits or $80.00 worth and
    save $500.00 on that $1,000.00 camera, would it be worth it?

    Have you ever bought anything in the auctions?

    Yes, boy isn’t it an aha experience. Others do pay the seller for the difference of any product when the price goes down that’s the nature of these auctions. No one twists any one’s arm to do it. When it does sell, the seller gets their price. The buyer usually gets a great deal in a reduced price and the associate gets a commission. Not only does the associate make a good profit many times over because just as soon as that camera sells for a great price another one comes right up again and it starts all over but the associate also benefits from his downline. I see this helping the economy because more products will be moved. More jobs will be affected and it can be a win win win all around.

    Oh a product does change hands in the form of credits. Remember that credits are the associates inventory.
    The company doesn’t need to buy from retailers or middle men understand they are getting their products right from the manufacturers.

    The product discounts are inherent with it’s business model in the fact there are no retailers involved.

    Yes the company is going to make a profit and also makes a very lucrative business for it’s associates
    while the customer gets good deals.

    Just don’t be a fool while enjoying your auctions. Be reasonable. The reason it works so great is
    because of the nature of the Internet. Many, many clicks out there. Millions of surfers.
    Don’t be surprised if down the road you have to pay a $1 to look at an electrical product in a retail store.

    NO scam here just good business and entrepreneurship. Go ahead. Register for free. No financial information is needed to register. I’ll even give you free credits. Now what’s wrong with that?
    http://us.droobli.com/5986725

65. Comment by Gene | October 30th, 2008

    Could you please interpret the Spanish for us.

66. Comment by Ms. Judith | October 31st, 2008

    eaglescout – You said you would answer my post when I “actually ask something relevant.” Then you posted not one but TWO replies. So, even according to your standards, I posted something relevant.

    You provided links with a video and some online article in Spanish. I don’t speak Spanish…so not helpful. If this video was an actual PRESS CONFERENCE or the article was in an ACTUAL DAILY NEWSPAPER, I would be interested in the translation. HOWEVER, since it looks like some guy in his house, not necessary.

    Going back to the very first reply which said you sound “like a very negative, disgruntled individual. Perhaps a distributor, previous employee of Droobli” – AMEN to that.

    Bottom Line: This business is NOT FOR YOU. You could not and would not be successful. Go find something that will provide you some joy out of life.

    As far as any more posts from you, whether it is questions, accusations, indirect or covert suggestion or hints especially of a derogatory nature, I certainly will not reply to you. (I may however, sit at my desk and laugh at the insanity.)

    HAVE A PROPEROUS DAY ALL!

67. Comment by Ms. Judith | October 31st, 2008

    Gene – You’re a great salesman!!!

68. Comment by Gene | October 31st, 2008

    Well, thank you! People just need to get
    started. The sooner the better. I can help.

    [Droobli Spam Link Removed].

69. Comment by Ms. Judith | October 31st, 2008

    Already started and making money baby! Life is great!!!

70. Comment by eaglescout | October 31st, 2008

    To Ms. Judith,

    “eaglescout – You said you would answer my post when I ‘actually ask something relevant.’ Then you posted not one but TWO replies. So, even according to your standards, I posted something relevant.”

    I pointed out your presumptuous and fallacious questions.
    Then, because I assumed you would claim I was avoiding your loaded questions, I offered information that supports my actual argument, and not your misrepresentations of my argument.

    “You provided links with a video and some online article in Spanish. I don’t speak Spanish…so not helpful.”

    Well, I am very sorry, but I charge 10 cents per word for translations.

    “If this video was an actual PRESS CONFERENCE or the article was in an ACTUAL DAILY NEWSPAPER, I would be interested in the translation. HOWEVER, since it looks like some guy in his house, not necessary.”

    You are never going to get a formal press conference from GroobLi. The second video is the closest you will get to seeing a GroobLi press conference.

    “HOWEVER, since it looks like some guy in his house, not necessary.”

    That “guy in his house” and in the corporate meeting is your beloved former GroobLi executive, Santi Fuentes.

    “Going back to the very first reply which said you sound ‘like a very negative, disgruntled individual. Perhaps a distributor, previous employee of Droobli’ – AMEN to that.”

    Really? I don’t believe you because you didn’t provide me with a “PRESS CONFERENCE or ACTUAL NEWSPAPER”.

    By the way, calling me a “very negative disgruntled individual” is a pretty negative thing to say. Your hypocrisy seems to never end.

    “Bottom Line: This business is NOT FOR YOU. You could not and would not be successful. Go find something that will provide you some joy out of life.”

    No, I don’t enjoy deceiving people; but there’s nothing technically difficult about being a GroobLi associate. It doesn’t take much talent to lie to your family and friends when you are desperate.

    “As far as any more posts from you, whether it is questions, accusations, indirect or covert suggestion or hints especially of a derogatory nature, I certainly will not reply to you. (I may however, sit at my desk and laugh at the insanity.)”

    Let’s recap, you attack me personally, then you misrepresent my arguments, then you nitpick at some pretty strong evidence against GroobLi (not to mention, you ignore all the other evidence), then you ask for “official” documents (which you have not provided or offered), and then when you are given the evidence, you run away.

    Let’s not forget, Google Translations can give you a pretty good idea of what the document says.

    So, Judith, don’t bother posting until you present evidence that GroobLi is a legitimate, non-deceitful ponzi scheme. Try adhering to your own standards.

    Until then, you are a dishonest hypocrite.

71. Comment by jeff | October 31st, 2008

    I just heard about this thing two days ago. I was referred to it from a couple friends who are making money. I have seen their bank accounts, seen the wire transfers. I asked them why the heck they didn’t tell me about this sooner so I could be enjoying the deposits myself; they told me that they wanted to make sure it was real and legit before approaching me with it. I wish they would have sooner. I think I’ll be good at it and I think it will take off. To Eaglescout: It has launched in America, of course you know this, and people are starting to make money….. people who use the express auctions are “GUARANTEED” to be able to purchase the product at “LESS” than the starting “RETAIL” price. Where is the problem here? I mean really. All this negative fear driven hate speech against a loving God and a seemingly decent business idea (whoops, I’m a Christian….. guess I must be crazy?) is suspicious at best. I guarantee all that I am just a normal average guy, maybe not all that smart, but it seems to me that (so far) Droobli is living up to its business plan and promises…… Am I wrong? Thanks for this medium to share our opinions. I respect everyone who has something relevant to say on “Either” side. Thank you for your time.

72. Comment by eaglescout | November 1st, 2008

    To Jeff,

    Thanks for your civilized comment.

    Receiving money from GroobLi does not make it any less of a scam.

    The fact that it is deceptive is enough to consider it a scam.

    The Express Auctions are a lottery, and the price rarely goes down more than 10% of retail price. You can get the same discount without engaging in a lottery scheme at a regular store.

    Also, GroobLi cannot possibly be making money off the Express Auctions, so their only source of income can be the advertising packages.

    If your friends are making money, their main source of income will be commissions from selling advertising packages.

    In fact, if your friends are making money, they are probably victimizing their down-line.

    There are plenty of people in Europe who have complained about GroobLi. I didn’t post them before because these are anecdotal, but then, so is your claim.

    Here is another claim about GroobLi in Europe.

    GroobLi, the theft of the century

    And here is a quick and dirty translation for Judith.

73. Comment by Gene | November 1st, 2008

    Hey thanks for the free ad.

    It’s too bad someone didn’t receive
    there product but there could be a number
    of reasons why.

    Time will tell if we’ve got something here
    don’t you think? Just keep moving forward.

74. Comment by velociation | November 2nd, 2008

    Lets get down to transparency…are there any postal addresses as a recourse in the even of us being had? Is there any fixed line contact no. Droobli has to provide?

    WITHOUT a physical address to support its business model in EVERY COUNTRY it has a presence, I wont even bother advancing. It simply means its not worth risking. The Scamee is more to blame than the scammer for not being an informed consumer, and moreover, indulging when he knows theres no recourse.

75. Comment by Gene | November 2nd, 2008

    Velociation have you found your answers so you can
    move forward or do you expect unofficial answers from the associates or listen to the eagle with his scamapedia? Will you do your due diligence and report back to us? If you have questions as to the veracity of the company talk to your attorney general. Try California’s. There is no lottery involved with the company as can be verified in all 5O states and there is no problems as have been purported other than anything that might happen to any other online store.
    The fact that the company is in it’s early stages of development from Europe and staged pre launch is a great place to be for the forward thinking entrepreneurs even though all of it’s offices are not yet established here. In every business venture there is a possibility of loss.
    Keep moving forward. You will find your answers. When you find
    them go ahead and join me.

76. Comment by Gene | November 2nd, 2008

    Thought I would review this scamapedia a bit and the one screaming the loudest seems to admit, that according to the companies own records, “it has been registered in Delaware since 2003″.

    That would be very easy to verify simply by a phone call.

77. Comment by eaglescout | November 3rd, 2008

    Gene, I’m going to borrow your idea of a Scamapedia.

    You are welcome regarding your GroobLi ad. I don’t mind a relevant link here or there, (even multiple ones automatically linked to your name), but advertising the same site over and over lessens the quality of the comment section.

    Regarding admission, I was actually pointing out that Dean Mannheimmer was contradicting himself, or lying.

    But if Mannheimmer is not lying, then GroobLi must be lying because they are not registered in Delaware.

78. Comment by Gene | November 3rd, 2008

    How does it lessen the quality of the comment section?
    As to the term Scamapedia just remember to give me credit for the term.

79. Comment by Ms. Judith | November 4th, 2008

    “Liars share with those they deceive the desire not to be deceived.” Sissela Bok

    Entity Name: GROOBLI.COM LLC
    City: WILMINGTON County: NEW CASTLE
    State: DE Postal Code: 19806
    File Number: 4153725

80. Comment by Gene | November 4th, 2008

    Thanks Ms. Judith. That helps. I’ve emailed the attorney
    general’s office myself and hope to hear from them soon.
    That is an interesting quote.
    It would be a good definition for scamapedia.

81. Comment by Ms. Judith | November 5th, 2008

    Agree with you 100%

82. Comment by eaglescout | November 5th, 2008

    Ms. Judith, we already know what GroobLi claims, but what is your source?

    By the way, GroobLi did go bankrupt in Denmark.

83. Comment by eaglescout | November 5th, 2008

    Hi Judith. John Roberts gave me the source on another thread.

    Sorry for mistrusting you on that one.

    However, GroobLi did not register until 2006. Shortly before they declared bankruptcy in Denmark.

84. Comment by Anonymoose | November 7th, 2008

    I don’t know what gave me more of a headache browsing through the comments; all the people with 4th-grade spelling capability trying to defend GroobLi, or our gracious host for taking the time to respond in earnest to every single point raised by them, practically culminating in one huge “NUH-UH; NYUH-HUH” argument.

    You’re dealing with trolls (mostly). Logical discourse is wasted on them. Just sayin’.

    So yeah, if GroobLi really is all this, screw them. In fact, even if they aren’t, screw ‘em anyway, Internet auctions are just a bad idea through and through.

85. Comment by Gene | November 7th, 2008

    We’ll see!

86. Comment by eaglescout | November 8th, 2008

    I figure someone else might read the comments and it will answer their questions about GroobLi.

87. Comment by Gene | November 8th, 2008

    They can get to me and I can answer them.

88. Comment by eaglescout | November 8th, 2008

    So Gene, I take it GroobLi’s bankruptcy in Denmark has had no effect on your attitude toward GroobLi?

89. Comment by Gene | November 9th, 2008

    NO, if there really was one. In any business enterprise like this it’s only as good as the associates who promote it. If in fact there even was a bankruptcy.
    We here in the US are working off the German model. Of course we plan to do a better job. Let’s get started today! We’re still in the beginning stages. Good time to join!
    Why don’t you focus on what’s happening in the rest of Europe? That might be a better indicator don’t you think? Just because you have a couple bad eggs in your carton it doesn’t mean you throw out the whole carton!

90. Comment by eaglescout | November 9th, 2008

    So, Gene, you think that the government of Denmark has a reason to lie about GroobLi’s bankruptcy in Denmark?

    “NO, if there really was one. In any business enterprise like this it’s only as good as the associates who promote it. If in fact there even was a bankruptcy.”

    You don’t have to take my word for it. Just check the publicly available records.

    “We here in the US are working off the German model. Of course we plan to do a better job. Let’s get started today! We’re still in the beginning stages. Good time to join!”

    How exactly do you plan to do a better job? A better job of what?

    “Why don’t you focus on what’s happening in the rest of Europe? That might be a better indicator don’t you think?”

    Yes, the rest of Europe is a better indicator: GroobLi Spain collapsed. GroobLi Germany gets the same amount of traffic as GroobLi US/UK (very little), and the bad eggs in your carton include Bobby Jensen, who has already bankrupted 5 corporations, including GroobLi Denmark.

91. Comment by Gene | November 9th, 2008

    Yes but I don’t care about Denmark as I told you we are using the model from Germany which has been successful and we hope to do even better with some other options. I don’t believe
    Bobby Jensen bankrupted any corporations. But let’s say it happened.
    So What? Tell me what you think about the German model. It’s working so how can you fault success? We’re still launching and if you wish to take a wait and see attitude it could be your loss. If you really want to know all the facts join the company. You can even start for free with the auctions. Just click on my name above and it’ll take you to my site where many of you questions will be answered.
    Have a great day.

92. Comment by eaglescout | November 9th, 2008

    “So What? Tell me what you think about the German model.”

    It’s flawed. Didn’t you read the articles? More than 97% of GroobLi’s revenue comes from selling licenses, not from the gambling.

    “It’s working so how can you fault success?”

    You can fault success if it is fraudulent; i.e. a pyramid scheme.

    “We’re still launching and if you wish to take a wait and see attitude it could be your loss.”

    I’m not taking a wait-and-see attitude; you are.

    “If you really want to know all the facts join the company.”

    Gene, I’ve been teaching you about GroobLi, and you are in it! Why would I need to join the company?

93. Comment by Gene | November 9th, 2008

    LOL scamapedia is all you’re worth here you teach nothing. But confuse honest people. All your misrepresentations are getting boring. But that’s what fuels your fire I suppose. Recruiting is one aspect in any MLM business but of course you want to frame it a pyramid scheme, get with the times man. Would you even know what to do with a great opportunity like this?

94. Comment by Oscar | November 9th, 2008

    Hi guys,

    WOW I cant believe I did it, but I read ‘em all. All the comments in this article are very useful to determine whats important. Is this or is this not a scam?

    -Just yesterday I was introduced to this GroobLi company via an e-mail sent to one of my business partners (actual business such as real estate investments and stocks).

    -Everything that they promise and promote looks great, and it has to, of course, if they want to stay in business by warping everyone into their black hole of “you’ll be rich tonight”.

    -Truth is we all want to be wealthy and enjoy the life we want rather than the life we CAN, and it is this very concept that companies like this exploit to make money off the very people who don’t have any.

    -After reading this article, and the comments in it, I’ve come to the conclusion of not joining GroobLi for the simple fact that I cannot trust them, and I will not recommend my business partners to join.

    -To the editor, better known as eagleScout, thank you for this information, and this arena in which opinions and facts have been stated.

    -To the supporters of GroobLi, I do wish you become successful, and remember that if you’re looking to get rich, you first need to be financially smart. Also, remember that for a company or corporation to be successful, it needs to be run by people who are characterized as those who possess integrity, leadership, and the will to make others successful as well. Obviously, a board of directors which sports businessmen with a history of bankruptcy and fraud do not meet those qualities. But that’s my OPINION, which means you don’t have to agree.

    -All in all GroobLi is doing something right. It is providing a method in which this website can grow in traffic. Thus beneficiary to the editor, and that makes me happy. Good for you eaglescout. You are monetizing the controversy, truly leveraging your time, and growing your business at the same time. You, in contrast to the opposing side are a true entrepreneur.

    Even if you don’t believe in my God, I wish you blessings.

    -Oscar H.

95. Comment by Gene | November 9th, 2008

    Yup, I wouldn’t be doing this if I didn’t think I could make a go of it and that goes the same for others. Best enterprise I’ve ever seen. I don’t know about all these unfounded remarks especially when a real concerned soul, so called, gives us information in Spanish or Danish or even sites his own emails. That doesn’t seem to me as very reliable or reputable. It’d be nice to have it in English and I gotta say all the fallacies used to an intelligent reader could simply discount anything this guy writes for that very reason but we
    gave some lattitude to see if he would come clean but it has been a disappointment at best. I like the free visibility just like the rest of you. The truth will come out as this thread grows. Anyway come join me and let’s getter done. I don’t know which God you believe in but mine wishes, above all things that you prosper even as your soul prospers.

96. Comment by eaglescout | November 9th, 2008

    Thank you for the nice comments, Oscar. By the way, I looked at your web site. Are you starting out or how long have you been doing web design? I consider myself a weak agnostic, but I wish you blessings as well.

    To Gene, all of the information (except for two videos of Santi Fuentes) is available in English, too. Let me know if you have trouble finding it.

97. Comment by Gene | November 10th, 2008

    No just give us the sites in Spanish translated.
    That’d be fine.

98. Comment by eaglescout | November 10th, 2008

    GroobLi the alleged competition to eBay (Translated)

    Santi Fuentes does not take any responsibility for GroobLi’s MLM fraud or the economic damages inflicted upon promoters (Translated)

99. Comment by Gene | November 10th, 2008

    Hey thank you! Everyone should read those Spanish accounts. It will clear up a bunch. It’s not the company at issue there it is quite anecdodal some guy alleges the associates didn’t get the help they needed and another guy decided not to do the biz for his own confidential reasons. I see one article was writen in 2006 and the other one a year ago. Old news.
    You have to remember that the company has been evolving but really it not the company at issue here.
    Anyway as I said a company is only as good as their associates. I don’t think the company itself can really be in question. You understand in a court of law it could be considered hearsay. No evidence is put forth. Were not looking for the popular vote here just the truth.

100. Comment by Gene | November 10th, 2008

     We’re not looking for the popular vote here just the truth.
     Seems Germany is addressing issues!

     Germany (Press Release) February 8, 2008 — BERLIN. – The Berlin auction house GroobLi calls for the creation an e-commerce customer executive council from March, 2008. It aims to improve the quality of customer service in the e-commerce industry. But website usability should also be a topic for the council, which will be composed of representative consumers from all sixteen federal states
     Moreover, it will include Chief Operations Officer (COO) Dennis Hoffmann and Vice President Bobby Jensen as well as leading business experts.
     “Consumers from every region, from different professions, young and old are sought after”, says GroobLi managing director Jesper Sjölund.

     The council will meet biannually under the direction of COO Dennis Hoffmann in the German capital, explained the world-wide trading portal. It should familiarize itself with customer perspectives and benefit from their recommendations. Suggested topics will include e-commerce contact, product and service quality and customer service itself, along with future prognosis.

     Dennis Hoffmann considers the initiative to be part of GroobLis’ campaign for
     “Trustworthy E-Commerce” – one of the primary goals of GroobLi.

101. Comment by EJ | November 11th, 2008

     Just ignore this blog – he’s no doubt an eBay seller who is trembling in his boots. Regarding the shipping points (which I find funny that the writer of this blog is even trying to use the same low brow tactics he is alleging by telling people you have to pay for duty fees), GroobLi has a fulfillment center in Arizona for the US market.

     So that brand new full warranty Macbook Air 1.8ghz Core 2 Duo w/ 80 GB HD and 2 Gigs of Ram that I just paid $1115.00 for cost me $9.95 to ship. http://linktrack.info/ib0vu45

     The best price you can find online is at Amazon for $1844.00 – yeah, it’s a scam that I saved a TON on my new laptop.

     http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006HU4NK

     Whaaaaa…go pound sand!

102. Comment by EJ | November 11th, 2008

     And Oscar, if you are going to base your opinion and decisions on a bunch of questionable ebay sellers posting comments on here, I can only say good luck my friend. Can anyone here remember the crap that was spewed about QVC or even eBay when they first came out? I started 3 weeks ago as a business associate and have 13 people that joined me in this venture as business associates as well as over 100 Droobli.com customers. I’ve already made back my investment and then some and it’s only increasing daily.

     Loving GroobLi.

103. Comment by eaglescout | November 11th, 2008

     EJ, This article was written with the information that was available on the GroobLi site on September 25th.

     “Regarding the shipping points (which I find funny that the writer of this blog is even trying to use the same low brow tactics he is alleging by telling people you have to pay for duty fees)”

     EJ, the shipping point scheme changed after this article was written. I’m not going to change factual information just because GroobLi changes its terms and conditions every few days.

     Regarding your computer, you overpaid. I hope you didn’t spend too many credits checking the price.

     Furthermore, the specifications do not match, so you probably got a refurbished computer.

     Don’t get me wrong, it’s not a bad computer, it’s just you could have gotten a much better one at that price.

104. Comment by Gene | November 11th, 2008

     Yup, we’ve got the prices and the business.
     They’re running scared! They have to dream up something so as to reconcile the great prices and ignore that the auctions work. LOL It can’t get better than this.

105. Comment by eaglescout | November 11th, 2008

     Who is “they”? And why are “they” scared?

106. Comment by Gene | November 11th, 2008

     You should know LOL

107. Comment by EJ | November 11th, 2008

     Apparantly my reply did not get posted or fell through the cracks. I won’t repeat all the links I posted here but no, I did not pay too much.

     I appreciate you coming clean on your referencing outdated and irrelevant data as it applies to the US market.

     And besides, it isn’t your place to assume what is a better computer for my needs. I got exactly what I wanted. And it cost me $4.80 in bids – add that to my $9.95 in shipping and it was a steal. Even if I paid $100 in bids, it would still be the best deal anywhere.

     http://tinyurl.com/6cafqe

     The 1199 listing, you can’t buy it from the seller because *surprise* he isn’t verified. Yeah, I trust that source for my purchases.

     Bizrate 1843.99
     Macmall 2133.97
     Amazon 1844.00
     Logicbuy 1499 *refurbished
     Apple Store 1499.00 *refurbished

108. Pingback by Can you get a good deal through GroobLi? » The Truth @ The Spin Factor | November 12th, 2008

     [...] is what a GroobLi promoter has to say: Just ignore this blog – he’s no doubt an eBay seller who is trembling in his boots. [...]

109. Comment by eaglescout | November 12th, 2008

     EJ, your case merited a blog response. I have responded here.

110. Comment by Shannon | November 18th, 2008

     Ok, 109 posts later I am still not sure how paying $0.80 to view the cost of an item is a good deal.

     Let’s get this out of the way first and formost. I have an account with both E-Bay and Droobli, I am only a purchaser not a major seller on E-Bay. I have no interest in either company and am not benefiting or harmed by the success or downfall of either. I have used the 3 FREE credits on Droobli and still felt ripped off.

     Please tell me if my math is wrong…

     every $0.80 you spend you get a $0.25 discount right?

     so a $100 item is viewed 400 times before it gets to $0.

     That means there were 400 credits used to get the $100 item to $0.

     400 x 0.80= $320

     Only one person gets to take the item home and 399 bidders are out $220 of the money they spent? Where does this money go? What happens if there are no Original bids? $330 is spent, no one gets the product and the bidding starts over again. If this a popular item I can see this scenerio playing out several times over and alot of money being made by Droobli with no product changing hands. How do we even know that the bids were not original? We have to believe them since there is no evidence to prove otherwise.

     How is this a deal for everyone else?

     If this scenerio was played out on E-Bay and 400 bids were placed on an Item, one person wins, they know upfront how much the shipping is and where it is coming from and 399 other bidders did not lose any money. On ebay you can see the usernames of eveyone that bid and how much they bid. You can research the usernames to see if they are legit and 90% of the time you are getting the item for less than retail.

     Please help me understand (without calling me stupid or any other derogitory names)

111. Comment by SUCKERED AGAIN | November 18th, 2008

     EagleScout, I told you I would post fair and balance. well you were right about everything you said. I kept watching them cut my commissions in half to almost nothing after a ton of hard work, and now that it is the 19th of the month, I am still not seeing the direct deposit that was promised on the 15th.

     MLM Is a great industry, but when companies come along and do this type of crap, it gives the industry a bad name.

     YOu see my email, so you can laugh knowing you were right.

     I hope no one ever joins Droobli. Flush your money down the toilet if you want to waste it.. They are the biggest Con on Man in the past 3500 years. The owners should go to prision and everyone that represents them should be put in jail or at least in a padded room so they can not hurt themselves or others.

     Keep these post coming. You are helping save the world by not allowing others to waste their hard earned money on the biggest ponzi scheme ever

112. Comment by Shannon | November 18th, 2008

     Suckered Again,
     What was your original post name?

113. Comment by Oscar Fernandez | November 19th, 2008

     Paying 80 cents to lower a bid 25 cents? That sounds like a scam right there!

     He’ll I think I’ll have a better time pitching dimes to win a plate at the state fair. At least I know what I’m getting!!

114. Comment by Oscar Fernandez | November 19th, 2008

     If this is so much better than ebay then why in the hell is it hard to figure out what to do?

     And why are their only 15 products that I can bid? This Droobli site is weak!!

115. Comment by Toni Alexander | November 19th, 2008

     I want to buy toys, but why aren’t there any listed? Where is the Droobli entry in wikipedia if it is so successful in Germany?

116. Comment by Toni Alexander | November 19th, 2008

     This has to be a bad joke, right?

117. Comment by Toni Alexander | November 19th, 2008

     Ron,

     Your http://37minutes2freedom.com video takes 37 minutes to load…what gives?

118. Comment by eaglescout | November 20th, 2008

     To S. Again,

     I’m sorry to hear that. I was aggressive at first because it was difficult to determine who was deliberately posting misinformation, and who wasn’t.

     Laughter isn’t the right emotion at all. I’m glad that you can corroborate what I strongly suspected, but it doesn’t make me happy to learn that someone has been deceived or hurt that way.

     I hope that your loses were limited, and that you find some justice. I don’t know in detail what the priorities of the FBI’s IC3 are, but if you are interested in filing a complaint, you can do it here: http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx . Though you may or may not get your money back, it might put GroobLi under the FBI’s radar (if it’s not already there).

     It’s pretty impressive that you were willing to change your thinking and share with others, despite the ingenious campaign by GroobLi and the cost to you. I think that’s very commendable.

119. Comment by Switzer | November 24th, 2008

     Eaglescout-

     I apologize ahead of time if this question has already been asked and answered but I am curious, do you have any kind of affiliations with eBay or any other e-commerce business? Thank you.

120. Comment by eaglescout | November 24th, 2008

     To Switzer,

     I inadvertently bought counterfeit software from an eBay seller once. I was not able to get a refund. It seems neither eBay nor Adobe benefit from pursuing counterfeiters.

121. Comment by Randy T | November 26th, 2008

     So to make real money with Droobli, I have to dish out $3200, have threee people dish out $3200, and continue to have them find people to dish out $3200..on and on.

     If we continue to do this Droobli and it’s associates tell us we will all be rich.

     If the product is such a hit why not just sell credits and make money that way? Why the pyramid scheme?

122. Comment by Randy T | November 26th, 2008

     According to a press release in August:

     GroobLi, a German internet marketing company, has been operating on a limited scale in Europe since 2006. They will be pre-launching the same platform sometime August in the United States and the company is expected to go fully online in the US by September. GroobLi is a global trading platform dealing with online auctions and online shopping that is predicted, by some, to surpass the popularity of e-bay by 2010.

     Notice – limited scale in Europe after people here are saying it’s a smash hit in many countries?

     Also, who are these people who “predict” Droobli to be more popular than EBay? Droobli associates? I predict the Pussy Cat Dolls will be a bigger hit than Led Zepplin!!

     They need to remarket Droobli but not as a gray, shady MLM.

123. Comment by lucho | November 26th, 2008

     Wow.. interesting to see peoples opinions here.. I personally can smell scam from a mile away.. By the way when I was registering to be an associate, I notice that droobli is not utilizing https, and they were asking me my s.s., birth date address, etc. wow giving all that personal information over a non secured web site.

     Anyhow droobli will bring money to the early adopters like every piramid does. And the people on the botton will never recover. I really wish this loteries, games, etc. did not make people believe everything the scamers is telling them.

     My advice to anybody is to consult with people that has formal education and that they trust. Also running an example case from top to botton will help and will show where the money comes and where it goes. In the long run you get somenthing cheap at times, and in all the other times you loose a little here and a little there. After all the peny slot machines are the ones that make casinos millionaires, nobody feels the pain when loosing a peny, but the society as a whole looses, and in the case of droobli the actual price paid for the item (not by the winning individual) is incredibly high, remember that only a little bit of what you put in counts towards the total. But I know it is pointless to explain to many, at least consult with a person who has lots of formal education, in particular math, also it has to be somebody not infolved in the system, and somebody that you trust, if you ignore any part of this then you will get a biased opinion.

124. Comment by Me | November 26th, 2008

     If you’d look into
     it a bit more lucho you’d see that Dr. King who is teaming up
     with the company who has a bit of expertise in network marketing which in your small world view term it a “piramid” which correctly put is pyramid, lends credibility to the company.
     http://www.24-7pressrelease.com/press-release/dr-charles-king-and-droobli-founder-michael-jensen-meet-to-finalize-plans-57893.php

125. Comment by ActionRequired | November 27th, 2008

     Eaglescout,

     Thanks for this article and blog you nailed it. Droobli is a giant scam. I filed a complaint with the FBI and I urge all the people who were taken by Droobli to do the same. That is the only way to stop the Droobli people from moving on and doing it again. Don’t let anyone else become a victim.

126. Comment by Charlie | November 27th, 2008

     I’m so confused, I just invested $800 U.S. two weeks ago and became the first and only person in the state of Hawaii to Join Droobli, I have several loved ones and co-workers about to invest money, this was presented to me by a great friend who is a millionaire many times over, he’s is on fire with Droobli, I wish someone would contact me with some real info on Droobli, so far I’m going full steam ahead! drayermaui@aol.com

127. Comment by Me | November 27th, 2008

     LOL don’t lie to the people eaglescout. If you did
     you aren’t a very progressive person. You and your
     so called favorite terms. Blah blah blah. You won’t
     stop the good company from making history.

128. Comment by Charlie | November 28th, 2008

     O.K. over the past 24 hours I’ve done enough research for a life time I’m no longer confused any great company like Droobli is going to come under fire but i feel safe going forward, last night I sat in a room filled with millionaires in my Maui home, and these guys would not waste their time with any kind of “scam” I’ve known most of them since high school, Droobli is Legit! Of course there’s going to be jealously and pettiness from morons the world over! Go with God people and keep in touch because I’ll need some good people to wax my Mercedes and clean my house. peace.

129. Comment by eaglescout | November 28th, 2008

     Hi Charlie,

     You should post your research so we can all see it.

130. Comment by Charlie | November 29th, 2008

     As corny as it may sound, my research is a matter of the heart, it boils down to the people you surround yourself with, Droobli in the wrong hands could be a nightmare, my advice don’t invest time and money in Droobli unless you are surrounded by solid, dynamic people, and by no means don’t believe you’re going to “get rich quick” it’s a business folks. Good luck and God Bless.

131. Comment by me | November 29th, 2008

     I see editing is done to suit the fancy of the owner.
     Aren’t you still missing the point that the company has an element of network marketing and is not a pyramid or even a piramid as some style it. It also has an element of viral marketing. Good company. It’s growing. Can’t touch it!

132. Comment by t.proia | November 30th, 2008

     oh might i add…you get free credits as a customer when you join, you also get free credits every time you get a friend to join because of you. i believe its 5 free credits.

133. Comment by t.proia | November 30th, 2008

     ok, lol it’s been awhile and i thought i would follow up on how i am doing in droobli. also for more (real non-misleading) information visit http://www.wickedlowprices.info

     1. i have not made all my money$$ thought associates. 80% of the money i have made is thought customers. i have a redirect that sends you to droobli aka http://www.wickedlowprices.com (this helps me out cause people will register as a customer under me…making me money and anyone in my up line money)

134. Comment by t.proia | November 30th, 2008

     2. i have tested out droobli on the customer side and it is very possible to get items! for cheap might i add.
     don’t believe me? links below sucka face!:
     Halo 3:
     Auction ends: 10.24.2008
     Value: $60.00
     Sold for:$5.50
     Successful bidder: tproia
     Link: http://us.droobli.com/Xbox-360-Halo-3__3e_171?BArefno=5041019
     iPod touch Leather Case
     Auction ends: 11.17.2008
     Start price: $28.00
     Sold for:$14.00
     Successful bidder:tproia
     link: http://us.droobli.com/iPod-touch-Leather-Case__5e_303?BArefno=5041019
     Apple iPod Touch 32 GB
     Auction ends: 11.17.2008
     Start price: $381.00
     Sold for:$20.00
     Successful bidder:tproia

135. Comment by t.proia | November 30th, 2008

     link: http://us.droobli.com/Apple-iPod-Touch-32-GB__5e_339?BArefno=5041019
     Garmin nuvi 760 GPS
     Auction ends: 11.10.2008
     Start price: $430.00
     Sold for:$0.00
     Successful bidder:tproia
     link: http://us.droobli.com/Garmin-nuvi-760-GPS__7e_269?BArefno=5041019
     Sony PlayStation 3 80GB
     Auction ends: 10.31.2008
     Start price: $450.00
     Sold for:$0.00
     Successful bidder:tproia
     http://us.droobli.com/Sony-PlayStation-3-80GB__7e_229?BArefno=5041019

136. Comment by t.proia | November 30th, 2008

     Grand Theft Auto IV
     Auction ends: 11.10.2008
     Value: $60.00
     Sold for:$6.75
     Successful bidder:tproia
     http://us.droobli.com/Grand-Theft-Auto-IV__3e_182?BArefno=5041019
     :O could you imagine that???? wow…it actually works! am i shocked??? Not at all…why? because i already knew Droobli was legit ( http://www.wickedlowprices.info for more info)
     btw the PS3 and the GTA IV game was late so they ended up giving me 40 free credits total for the inconvenience…at .80 a credit that payed for shipping…and because i live in arizona all the products shipped in different size box’s only cost me $4.95 no matter the size of the product. mainly because the shipping price is determined by location not the size… so if you buy a car…you don’t get your pocket book raped.

137. Comment by t.proia | November 30th, 2008

     sorry for all the posts…guess you cant post big comments.

138. Comment by eaglescout | November 30th, 2008

     Hi t.proia, for the $3,000+ you paid for your GroobLi “license” and gambling tokens that’s about the least they can do.

     Doesn’t it seem odd to you that of the allegedly “hundreds of thousands” of GroobLi customers you’ve won 6 items?

     If GroobLi is so big, how come just you and a handful of others have won the plurality of the prices?

139. Comment by Gene | December 1st, 2008

     Come on you know the company just started in the US
     and it is in a growing process. You have to start some
     where. The point is it’s not how big it is now but what it will be. Can you imagine a car dealership with an empty lot?Oh come buy my oops. I mean, they have to have at least one car to start with. You think they get it for free?
     Is that how you expect a licensed associate to work? Fact is it’s the best buy to come in at gold for $3,195 and you get 6,000 credits that your customers buy for 80 cents. Do the math. Unfortunately the company doesn’t give us an instant stock of customers that’s the associates job. But once established I can envision the business to be pretty much automatic. How cool is that? Keep your eyes open the shop will be coming. Where you can buy without credits and the associate still can make money. I mean that’s why we do the business, right? By the way we do have a car on the auction block now which we have in our virtual lot. LOL

140. Comment by Randy T | December 1st, 2008

     This company will grow like many other MLM grow. Get people to buy memberships underneath you. YOu get residuals from their downline.

     It’s a pyramid scheme rather than a good business plan for all people.

141. Comment by Gene | December 1st, 2008

     If that’s what you think. They are not buying
     memberships anyway. They are buying credits.
     Do the Math.
     Others know better.

142. Comment by t.proia | December 1st, 2008

     lol eagle …did you happen to notice how droobli the auction site has ABSOULTLy NO ADVERTISEMENTS on there website about the business side? there not after business associates..

143. Comment by t.proia | December 1st, 2008

     the SPINfactor is a type of deception in the form of an untruthful statement, especially with the intention to deceive others, often with the further intention to maintain a secret or reputation, protect someone’s feelings or to avoid a punishment. To lie is to state something that one knows to be false or that one has not reasonably ascertained to be true with the intention that it be taken for the truth by oneself or someone else. A liar is a person who is lying, who has previously lied, or who tends by nature to lie repeatedly.

     gotta love wiki

144. Comment by t.proia | December 1st, 2008

     “Hi t.proia, for the $3,000+ you paid for your GroobLi “license” and gambling tokens that’s about the least they can do.

     Doesn’t it seem odd to you that of the allegedly “hundreds of thousands” of GroobLi customers you’ve won 6 items?

     If GroobLi is so big, how come just you and a handful of others have won the plurality of the prices”

     i did it myself bud, just like anyone else who goes out and buys something…they did it…not the company. btw…i only spent 300 credits… i dont think i did to bad…saved my money in my opinion..and the credits i bought are for others to TRY GROOBLI as a CUSTOMER… if i wanna get promoted…its just like any other business…you have to have people under you..if your the last person to get hired you have to wait tell there is someone new..just like any other job, i got promoted at work a month ago at PRN Medical…and yes..its because there was someone new we brought on board.. oh might i add my boss and the owners of the company make allot more money than me…..i guess PRN medical and many other jobs are just another pyramid scheme… *sarcasm…

145. Comment by Gene | December 2nd, 2008

     Well, I am looking for business associates. Once this
     gets going it will be money in the bank for those who
     take it seriously as what it is, a viable business, and work it.
     Once set up you could be set up for life. Until and if something better comes along this is going to be a major competitor in the e-commerce world.

146. Comment by Charlie | December 2nd, 2008

     I have to say this blog is fun! I am amazed that people say Mutlti Level marketing like it’s a bad thing, I’m 44 years old, and my Father was in Amway in 1970 and he retired at 40 years old making 6 figures for his entire life and he never went to any office or ever wore a name tag, My mother was with Mary kay Cosmetics for 20 years and always made 6 figures and drove a new pink caddilac every year, both my parents are gone and I still get checks from both companies, so laugh it up people there are more retired Network Marketing Millionaires than perhaps any business you can get into besides maybe Real Estate or Insurance, But this blog is fun!

147. Comment by Gene | December 2nd, 2008

     Yes some of these folks are a little behind the times
     aren’t they? I hope this is a differnt Charlie that’s
     been posting on here. If you want to play with the money
     you have join my auction site. Just click my name and you can find it there. I just looked and on the 5,000 dollar walmart gift voucher there is almost a 1,300 dollar savings. Better hurry!

148. Comment by Shannon | December 3rd, 2008

     Can one of the Droobli associates answer my questions? I left a post last month (#110)

     **0 bid auction** Where does all the money spent above and beyond the actual cost of the item go?

     ** Original bid auction** What if the item does not sell (no original bids), does everyone who bid get their money back? How can the general public be sure that Droobli is not pocketing the money when there are no “original bids”? How can we be sure that they are telling us the truth about the results?

     Basically I am questioning the honesty of the company and their willingness to disclose where the money goes.
     Please do not insult my intelligence in your answer (like I have seen in previous posts)or refer me to videos. I just want a simple/logical answer about their book keeping practices and verification that this is a legal way of doing business.

149. Comment by Gene | December 4th, 2008

     Shannon,

     Good Questions! Let me see what I can do.

     This is all unofficial I am only an associate and just trying to help out.

     First let me say that the paying of 80 cents isn’t the deal.
     The deal is you take a chance when you pay 80 cents which you need to understand up front which isn’t redeemable and you forfeit for the chance to see the price and if you choose to buy the product you can and likely get a good deal. It will be at least 25 cents less than the listed price but of course you wouldn’t buy it yet if you wanted a good deal. You’d hang in there and try latter. But you could buy it still if you were going to buy say that camera anyhow. When you go to the store you spend your gas to buy that camera and probably at the retail price also. But with the company you just spend a credit to see if you might be able to buy at a greatly reduced price. In any case you are out the 80 cent bids you place. But say you spent 10 credits worth, what, 8 dollars and you save on a purchase 100 dollars.
     Would it be worth it to you? That’s what you need to decide or
     anyone who bids must decide because they may spend that 8 dollars and get nothing for it. If they choose not to buy at that time and someone else later bids and buys before you get another look. Every time you bid you can buy at that time if you wish. So you spend 8 dollars worth of credits and you save 25 dollars, well, it would be up to you if you want to buy. Just off set the 25 dollars with the 8 dollars you spent and it would be in reality a savings of 17 dollars but you played the game. There is some entertainment value here.
     Now the shop is coming where you can just buy without credits which I’ll mention later.

     1.**0 bid auction** Where does all the money spent above and beyond the actual cost of the item go?

     answer. Zero Auction Each 25 cents of the 80 cents goes to pay down the item which goes to the seller. Right now it would be the company. The other 55 cents goes to the bonus pool for the associate and they get from 10 to 24% of that depending on their status or position in the downline. That could add up to a lot of profit because of the nature of the Internet with so many clicks. As people see how low the price is getting it starts to heat up and bids come in at a faster rate. Until the last 25 cents is spent and they have the option on the product at 0.

     2.** Original bid auction** What if the item does not sell (no original bids), does everyone who bid get their money back? How can the general public be sure that Droobli is not pocketing the money when there are no “original bids”? How can we be sure that they are telling us the truth about the results?

     answer I assume you mean Unique bid. If it doesn’t sell the
     company gets the money that is derived from the 25 cents that are offered and the associate gets the 10 to 24% of the 55 cents spent from their customer base. Then I suppose the auction would start all over I don’t really know. I mean if the one with the unique bid didn’t claim it what can you do?

     3.Basically I am questioning the honesty of the company and their willingness to disclose where the money goes.
     Please do not insult my intelligence in your answer (like I have seen in previous posts)or refer me to videos. I just want a simple/logical answer about their book keeping practices and verification that this is a legal way of doing business.

     I don’t have an answer about the book keeping in fact I have questioned the company about it myself. Haven’t gotten feed back yet. Customer service is still being set up in Dubi maned by Americans living there and should be up and running soon. But I don’t know how they would do that I suppose with each bid as you see the price they could have the list of bidders also. Maybe they will which would be a good idea but the fact is they are still creating ‘I think’ the software for a lot of the functions. I mean they have the basic stuff up. Reallise this is kind of a work in progress.The shop will be coming on maybe the first quarter of the new year where you can purchase without credits or bidding. Also a market place which I am not sure but it may be a place where you could put up your own products for sale. Someone correct me
     if I am wrong.

     Does that help. If not go to my site and give me a call. We can talk. I understand your concerns and they are reasonable.
     Just click on Gene and it should take you to my site. Thanks to this blog.

150. Comment by Gene | December 4th, 2008

     Realize what we have here.

151. Comment by Tim | December 4th, 2008

     It’s obvious that those who are pro Droobli are paid employees of the company? Come on now – this is a scam. If it sounds to good to be true…

     I have friends who have no money and they just bought into this – now I’m going to try to help them get their money back. I doubt it will work.

152. Comment by Gene | December 4th, 2008

     Hey buddy you don’t even make sense.

153. Comment by Charlie | December 5th, 2008

     I would bet any person watching this sight that “Tim” and “Eaglescout” are watching from a trailer or a special needs group home. I would also bet that they have a net worth of under $1000, Droobli is real I made $8,000 my first month and next month will be $10,000 or more, so enjoy your Hungry Man dinner, Because right now I’m pool side at my home in Maui! I love Morons, there’s something about them that makes it impossible to look away, like a terrible car accident.

154. Comment by eaglescout | December 7th, 2008

     The fact that I’m replying to you from a trailer in a special needs facility, microwaving a “Hungry Man” dinner doesn’t change the information that has been presented to you.

     Did someone say GroobLi is not real? To whom are you writing, Charlie?

155. Comment by Kate32 | December 9th, 2008

     Eaglescout:
     2 very close friends of mine just signed up with Droobli and are trying to get me involved. The idea at first seemed brillant, but when I went to the website to read more about how it works I could see that the ideas were more convoluted then I had first thought.

     I’m glad I found your site because the information you bring up is important to look at. There are some points that you make that I was not able to connect and was wondering if you could break it down a little more for me.

     1. “So even if you have a “team” of players making guesses, and can afford 100 Euros to guess 200 numbers, you’ve only covered the range between 0 cents and 20 Euros. So if someone else bids 20.20 Euros, you just lost 100 Euros. So, you you select a high enough price that it could be unique, but low enough that you can win. You spend another credit on 41.20 just in case.”

     Not following the math here. Also, are you using an extreme example to make a point? It seems that if I did not want to pay “x amount” for something, I certainly would not spend 100 euros bidding on it, knowing I would pay for the cost of the item plus it’s shipping. I would have stopped way before the 100 euros as the item would have lost it’s value. I think most people would do the same, no?

     2. Is Droobli telling people that they are traded on the NYSE?

     3. Are they a legit company? If they aren’t why hasn’t someone shut them down yet, especially with the track record they have in other countries? I know you mentioned something about gambeling laws being inconsistent, but that can’t be the only contingency keeping them out of trouble, right?

     4. So are you saying that they are registered in Delaware? But they don’t bank in the US even when transacting business here? Is that legal? how can they be registered if they’re doing that?

     5. you also mentioned Santi Fuentes who fled GroobLi after failing to deliver on a promise to sell GroobLi stock on the London Stock Exchange. I don’t see how this effects Droobli. To me this makes her out to be the scam artist, not droobli. Who did she fail to deliver to? Was is Droobli she failed or people who invested in Droobli?

     I would really appreciate your feedback. It seems they’d be better off advertising as a gambeling site rather than e-commerece. Your right, if your selling nothing, it’s a scam. But, you can charge for providing a service and their service seems to be providing a place for people to gamble, then I suppose you can profit. I’m still not convinced on the legitimacy of the whole thing. Looking forward to your comments.

     Sincerely,
     Kate32

156. Comment by Sam Jones | December 9th, 2008

     http://www.smartwinshop.com/GroobLi%20Statement.html

157. Comment by Sam Jones | December 9th, 2008

     Network marketing has and always will receive flack from people terming it a “scam” or “pyramid”. That is ok! People are entitled to their opinions. I have found that 99.99% of the time these statements are backed by zero substance, as they purely rely on the opinions of others. Sure, the blue collar 9 to 5 in most eyes is the prudent way to make a living. I cannot reject that belief, as millions rely on their guaranteed check and retirement to survive this difficult world. I respect the diligent minded. The entrepreneur mentality is not for everyone! But the network marketing business model offers a unique chance to supplement or replace your income. Just because it’s structured MLM, doesn’t make it illegal. Yes, there are pyramid schemes out there, but don’t blanket them all under one umbrella to prove your points; it only makes you sound ignorant, and de-edifies your position.
     Personally, I think eaglescout is feeding off the energy behind the GroobLi exposure. I have seen it happen so many times when a company is getting attention, the first to the plate to create a devil advocate forum wins. They all of a sudden become a leading authority in the industry, and their word is the “final say”. Be careful leaning on just the negative, because you can cheat yourself out of some really valuable opportunities. As with anything in the world, if you want to find negative, you will find it – guaranteed! If you find the most reputable network marketing companies in the world that represent the crème de le crème, I promise you they are spun as scams in different forums. Someone will craft a great argument and develop fabricated points to create a frenzy of negativity. Nobody really knows the agenda by the person who becomes the authority in a forum like this. exe – eaglescout. They will always make it appear they are in the best interest of the consumer.
     As for GroobLi! I don’t have a crystal ball! Nor do I claim to be a MLM prophet as implied by eaglescout. I would like to know what eaglescouts personal business accomplishments have been. I want your credibility to come to light. You are always retracting peoples comments by “show me your research”. You boldly make statements out loud in here, which have been proven to be false, as I posted above. Of course it’s coming from the company itself, but now it’s on you to prove otherwise. Why would anyone listen at that point if indeed you were completely wrong? Sure, some points being thrown out cause discomfort, especially if you are considering doing GroobLi. But with any company, there will be the pros and cons. If you don’t truly know the business plan for the future, it’s easy to speculate right now and open up the can of worms to all the potential scenarios. Value to the customer will always be the main priority in a business model like GroobLi. I would wholeheartedly agree! It’s the product, so value is necessary. But, what if GroobLi consistently evolves the value to the end consumer, and ultimately transforms into an empire – with huge value across the board? This is the business plan “unknown” everyone must consider. Would you be disappointed to think a blog steered you away from it. Because one person made some bold statements that people hung their hopes on.
     Seriously people, if your research ends with your conclusion from what you read in a blog, I pity you. That is not diligent, that is lazy! Sure, GroobLi is in its infancy right now, and has some holes, but to blanket it as a ponzi or scam because eaglescout says so, is naïve. I personally feel the objectives are in place, and info I receive from “credible” people lean towards my instinct that GroobLi will become a great company. Rival ebay? I am not going that far yet, but time will tell. In my opinion with listening to eaglescout, you need to be careful! But as I prefaced you, it’s only my opinion…And he is surely entitled to his!

158. Comment by eaglescout | December 9th, 2008

     To Kate32,

     “2 very close friends of mine just signed up with Droobli and are trying to get me involved. The idea at first seemed brillant, but when I went to the website to read more about how it works I could see that the ideas were more convoluted then I had first thought.”

     It is presented as very simple, but as soon as you start asking relevant questions, it gets unnecessarily complicated.

     “I’m glad I found your site because the information you bring up is important to look at. There are some points that you make that I was not able to connect and was wondering if you could break it down a little more for me.”

     1. “So even if you have a “team” of players making guesses, and can afford 100 Euros to guess 200 numbers, you’ve only covered the range between 0 cents and 20 Euros. So if someone else bids 20.20 Euros, you just lost 100 Euros. So, you you select a high enough price that it could be unique, but low enough that you can win. You spend another credit on 41.20 just in case.”

     The idea here is that the unique auction is effectively the equivalent of spread-betting. At the time this was written, the GroobLi website advertised credits for 0.50 Euros, and each credit could move the price 0.20 Euros (or in the case of the unique auction, it could fill a 0.20 Euro gap).

     So if you wanted to cover the range between 0.20 Euros and 20 Euros, you would have to spend 5 GroobLi credits per Euro covered. That would come out to 5 * 20 credits or 100 credits. But there is a mistake on one of the numbers: if you had spent 200 credits, you would be able to cover the range from 0.20 to 40. (and not 0.20 to 20 as originally specified).

     “Not following the math here. Also, are you using an extreme example to make a point? It seems that if I did not want to pay “x amount” for something, I certainly would not spend 100 euros bidding on it, knowing I would pay for the cost of the item plus it’s shipping. I would have stopped way before the 100 euros as the item would have lost it’s value. I think most people would do the same, no?”

     Most likely that would be the case, if you realized you still have to pay for the item. But if people buy into the hype too quickly, they probably don’t know that.

     “2. Is Droobli telling people that they are traded on the NYSE?”

     I don’t think so. But they have been promising that they will trade on the London Stock Exchange. There are multiple articles (“press releases”) that promise they will in 2009. They promised the same in 2006.

     See http://ezinearticles.com/?GroobLi-Auctions-and-Non-Profits&id=1491720

     3. “Are they a legit company? If they aren’t why hasn’t someone shut them down yet, especially with the track record they have in other countries? I know you mentioned something about gambeling laws being inconsistent, but that can’t be the only contingency keeping them out of trouble, right?”

     There are too many ways to answer whether they are a legitimate company. In the sense that they are registered, they are legitimate. In the sense that their practices are convoluted and misleading, my opinion is that they are not. But the law, ethics, and actual practice do not coincide perfectly, so they may well operate under the law and still be deceitful; for example, they advertise gambling as auctions. Or for example, they make significantly more money from their promoters than from the actual products (gambling), which means the products are just a front.

     “4. So are you saying that they are registered in Delaware? But they don’t bank in the US even when transacting business here? Is that legal? how can they be registered if they’re doing that?”

     That’s perfectly legal as a Delaware Limited Liability Company or Corporation. It’s one of the benefits of registering in Delaware.

     “5. you also mentioned Santi Fuentes who fled GroobLi after failing to deliver on a promise to sell GroobLi stock on the London Stock Exchange. I don’t see how this effects Droobli. To me this makes her out to be the scam artist, not droobli. Who did she fail to deliver to? Was is Droobli she failed or people who invested in Droobli?”

     Santi Fuentes could well be an isolated incident in GroobLi’s history, but looking at the Denmark bankruptcy, and the affiliations of the other GroobLi executives, the trend is that they are all scam artists.

     “I would really appreciate your feedback. It seems they’d be better off advertising as a gambeling site rather than e-commerece.”

     That was one of my first thoughts after I noticed the gambling elements, except they make more money from their promoters.

     “Your right, if your selling nothing, it’s a scam. But, you can charge for providing a service and their service seems to be providing a place for people to gamble, then I suppose you can profit.”

     I agree with you. It’s just the gambling accounts for a very small percentage of their profits.

     Don’t get me wrong, I think they have the right to sell a service, not matter how backwards it is. But I figure if they are going to misrepresent the value of the service, they are not being all that ethical.

     “I’m still not convinced on the legitimacy of the whole thing. Looking forward to your comments.

     Sincerely,
     Kate32″

     Thank you for your comments. They are unbelievably open-minded and refreshing. Instead of feeling defensive, I feel like we are figuring things out. Look forward to your response.

159. Comment by Gene | December 9th, 2008

     Sure talk a lot of nonsense trying to pollute the waters. I think all of this has been covered. Every issue here.
     Everyone doesn’t have to wear the same shoes. Nor does everyone like horse shoes. If you don’t like a game of chance fine. Click your heals. Come the first of the year or so if you only spend your free credits and don’t like the auctions or the great deals there just go to the shop and you don’t need to buy any credits to get great deals. They sure like beating a dead horse here. You’re not going to stop it as I can see it.

160. Comment by Tenderfoot | December 10th, 2008

     To eaglescout:

     I am not here to argue, but figure things out. I try to have an open mind, because an open mind is like a parachute, if it isn’t open it doesn’t work.

     First I would like to know if you think there are any good MLM companies out there.

     I know not all people will make it in MLM’s and it is probably impossible for that to happen, that is why there is a lot a negativity about them. It is a business model (not a perfect one) that people can try with very little risk that can help make a few extra dollars a month. A few extra dollars can go a long way in a household. I feel people should know what they are getting into and not fall into the trap that this will fulfill all their dreams. The risk to open your own business can ruin a family. “Two-thirds of new employer establishments survive at lease two years, and 44 percent survive at least four years.” (SBC) I don’t want to take out a business loan in this economy and I don’t have time for another full time job.

     http://www.businessknowhow.com/startup/business-failure.htm

     Also, my friend and I were going to do GroobLi together because we both have kids and want to keep our wives at home with them, because we feel that is important to us. Plus, doing it together minimizes risk and helps grow it quicker. Yes, we could downscale to a smaller house or apartment, so we can live on one income, but because of the economy we cannot sell our homes without ruining us financially. We are stuck. I know you will comment that this doesn’t have anything to do with GroobLi.

     Many networks you also have to spend large amounts of time away from home at night, with GroobLi it gives you a chance to work a lot more at home.

     Yes, GroobLi is gambling, but it looks they are trying to find a niche in the market. No, it will not replace ebay, but maybe it can get a 5-10% of ebay customers. I don’t have the statistics to back it up, but I have heard that ebay had 30 million customers in the last year and that number is growing. If you think gambling is bad, then I understand. If you watch the World Serious of Poker on TV you will notice it is a fast growing and major place for internet advertising (poker sites). Yes, GroobLi is calling it a reverse auction, but that is their marketing campaign to rival ebay. I took some marketing in college and part of marketing is being unique and putting a twist on things. For instance, why is your website call The Spin Factor? Great name by the way.

     One definition for spin is: Slang. to cause to have a particular bias; influence in a certain direction: His assignment was to spin the reporters after the president’s speech.
     One definition of Factor is: one of the elements contributing to a particular result or situation

     It seems like all MLM’s never have everything worked out in the beginning and it takes the while to work all the kinks out. Everything is always hearsay and it looks risky. Yes, it is true that getting in earlier with a MLM is better because of a more open market and in the early stages it seems risky because it always looks like a scam and sometimes is.

     I also have found that you can find negative on everything in the internet. It is like the bathroom wall anyone can write on it. I also have noticed that the MLM’s that are consumer based seem to make it. Companies like Mary Kay, Herbalife, Primerica provide something that the consumers are still buying.

     I know I maybe me wrong, but GroobLi seems like they are using network marketing to get thier business started faster than ebay. Word of mouth (or by internet), especially when they are paying people is fast and cheap advertising. That is also why so many companies have outside sales reps. It seems like it would be good to get in early, help promote it and then eventually if will just become consumer based like ebay. It would be similar to buying stock on Starbucks or Microsoft before they became big. Who would have known a small little coffee shop in Seattle would turn into the McDonalds of coffee. Shareholders got in early and benefited, but they took a risk. From the GroobLi distributors I have met they are getting in early and promoting it with that hopes that it will grow and eventually they will make money off the consumer base. If GroobLi is still around in 10 years people will probably never know it started out as a network.

     Network marketing can be a way to change some things in your life (hopefully for the positive) with little risk. What would be you suggestion for making more money with small risk, especially in this economy.

     I want to ask you a few things and I am not doing it to make you mad. I am really curious because I know there is bias in everything we read or hear. Does the spin factor make money off of its advertisements and how many people visit the site? Also, do you get more feedback on negativity or positive information? I just want to know if your comments to the GroobLi distributors are intended to throw more wood on the fire? It makes for interesting reading. I have to say I think a couple of these GroobLi distributors have a good outlook and good intentions, but the majority of them are very angry and those distributors are just making me less attracted to it.

     I am trying to have a healthy outlook on this situation, but from what I have gathered you think GroobLi is doomed. Isn’t anything in the back of your mind that thinks this might work? Once a scam artist, always a scam artist? One issue I see is when there becomes so many consumers that the odds of the prices dropping to 50% below retail price it will be slim odds, because there will always be someone out there who will buy it for only 10% off. I am talking about the express auction.

     Anyways, I am curious to hear your comments.
     Thanks, Rob aka Tenderfoot

161. Comment by Gene | December 10th, 2008

     Yes that’s just one auction but I see it the other way around. Once saturated those who want to buy at the say 10% to 20% off are still getting a good deal but the time will come when the price falls the early buyers will be satisfied and the others will let the prices fall and buy, not so much because they want it, but because of the good deal. Remember once a product sells the same item will come right back up at full price and the cycle starts all over again. Time will tell. So chances at a better deal could be in the greater numbers.

162. Comment by eaglescout | December 12th, 2008

     From Sam Jones,

     Network marketing has and always will receive flack from people terming it a “scam” or “pyramid”. That is ok! People are entitled to their opinions. I have found that 99.99% of the time these statements are backed by zero substance, as they purely rely on the opinions of others.

     That may be the case, but I’m not discussing network marketing. I’m discussing GroobLi.

     Sure, the blue collar 9 to 5 in most eyes is the prudent way to make a living. [...] The entrepreneur mentality is not for everyone!

     I hope you are not suggesting that paying GroobLi $3000 for a webpage is entrepreneurial.

     But the network marketing business model offers a unique chance to supplement or replace your income. Just because it’s structured MLM, doesn’t make it illegal.

     Nobody is making the claim that a structured MLM is automatically illegal.

     Yes, there are pyramid schemes out there, but don’t blanket them all under one umbrella to prove your points; it only makes you sound ignorant, and de-edifies your position.

     I’m not blanketing pyramid schemes under one umbrella to prove my points. Instead, my evidence based on GroobLi shows that GroobLi (and only GroobLi) is misrepresenting its gambling and lotteries (games of chance) as auctions; that its terms are convoluted and misleading; that it has a bad reputation in Spain, and that its “product” has little if any value.

     Personally, I think eaglescout is feeding off the energy behind the GroobLi exposure.

     I think so, too. That’s why I have listed Bobby Jensen and GroobLi as my sponsors.

     I have seen it happen so many times when a company is getting attention, the first to the plate to create a devil advocate forum wins. They all of a sudden become a leading authority in the industry, and their word is the “final say”. Be careful leaning on just the negative, because you can cheat yourself out of some really valuable opportunities. As with anything in the world, if you want to find negative, you will find it – guaranteed! If you find the most reputable network marketing companies in the world that represent the crème de le crème, I promise you they are spun as scams in different forums.

     That’s true.

     Someone will craft a great argument and develop fabricated points to create a frenzy of negativity.

     Some forums might develop fabricated points. Others might resort to real evidence. For example, Bobby Jensen claims he has never been involved in any bankruptcies, and invented the false assertion that there is no evidence.

     On the other hand, we at The Spin Factor produced the evidence. Now, both Bobby Jensen and ourselves created a frenzy of negativity. But our negativity was based on evidence.

     Nobody really knows the agenda by the person who becomes the authority in a forum like this. exe – eaglescout. They will always make it appear they are in the best interest of the consumer.

     Not always. I also enjoy proving people wrong when they are lying. I also enjoy good satire. I might deliberately employ exaggerations for the sake of humor, and not necessarily for the best interest of the consumer; but sometimes humor gets the point across better.

     As for GroobLi! I don’t have a crystal ball! Nor do I claim to be a MLM prophet as implied by eaglescout.

     I don’t know exactly what will happen with GroobLi, but I can make good guesses based on the research I have done.

     I would like to know what eaglescouts personal business accomplishments have been. I want your credibility to come to light.

     Thing is, I don’t need to be ‘personally’ credible if I can cite my research. A better question is whether my sources are credible.

     You are always retracting peoples comments by “show me your research”.

     I can’t retract other people’s comments; only they can do it. I do ask people to show their research. I don’t see anything wrong with asking for evidence or logical consistency.

     You boldly make statements out loud in here, which have been proven to be false, as I posted above. Of course it’s coming from the company itself, but now it’s on you to prove otherwise.

     I did.

     Seriously people, if your research ends with your conclusion from what you read in a blog, I pity you. That is not diligent, that is lazy!

     I agree. They should look for evidence. Fortunately I’ve saved people some time by finding public records that they can read.

     Sure, GroobLi is in its infancy right now, and has some holes, but to blanket it as a ponzi or scam because eaglescout says so, is naïve.

     I agree.

     I personally feel the objectives are in place,

     Can you clarify?

     and info I receive from “credible” people lean towards my instinct that GroobLi will become a great company.

     I would be interested in that information. Where can I get it?

163. Comment by Gene | December 13th, 2008

     More scamapedia eaglescout. Can you even believe yourself? LOL
     How many M Jensens do you think are out there? As far as I know the guy with the company is clean.

164. Comment by Gene | December 13th, 2008

     Another erroneous assertion is that one pays $3,000.00 to get into the company. Really if one wants to do business they must have credits and the best way to get in is at the gold level because you get the best discount on them which in turn you sell to your customers so they can bid in the auctions. The unique thing is with each bid the price goes down. They figured out how to make it work. One can also become an associate for just under an $800.00 purchase of credits. You have to have the credits to do business as an associate. The company provides the tools to have your own online business with the web sites, the auctions, the shop and the marketplace. We get all of this set up for us. Come on have a brain. Have you ever tried to get set up on ebay? You have to have a product you have to have some kind of credit you have to be able to accept credit cards you have to ship your products and on and on and on. There’s a lot of hoops to go through but not with our company. It’s all set up, it’s so simple. The company takes care of all that for you. How easy could it get? What’s the big deal. Your welcome to join me, just click on my name.

165. Comment by eaglescout | December 13th, 2008

     Hi Gene,

     “What’s the big deal. Your welcome to join me, just click on my name.”

     How much will you pay me join your downline?

166. Comment by Sam Jones | December 14th, 2008

     Eaglescout! My positions with MLM were stated on the content of the blog comments from others, not on your personal opinions about GroobLi. So don’t personalize points I made, as I targeted others in here who were also apart of the mix. I am nipping the MLM conversation in the butt before anymore ignorance is shared that persuades the naive on the business model itself, seperate of GroobLi. Thanks for clarifying the rest of my comments. As for me, “I personally feel”, and “my instincts that GroobLi will become a great company”, are held in reserve at the moment. I will disclose with time once the timing is right. Since this forum seems to get big attention from people doing research, I will gladly post everything in here. Thanks for taking the time to respond.

167. Comment by Gene | December 14th, 2008

     I won’t pay you to join. You can come in when you buy your credits and do business just like I had to do and everyone else does.
     You are still welcome to join me.

168. Comment by eaglescout | December 14th, 2008

     Then why should I join your downline and not someone else’s downline?

169. Comment by Gene | December 14th, 2008

     Well if you can find someone to pay you to come in that’s great. Then you can do the same if you think that’s good business.

170. Comment by eaglescout | December 14th, 2008

     It’s not. So why would I pay someone else join my downline?

171. Comment by Gene | December 15th, 2008

     Good question. You have an answer?

172. Comment by eaglescout | December 15th, 2008

     Maybe Dean Mannheimer knows.

173. Comment by Gene | December 15th, 2008

     You’re the only one wanting something for nothing!
     Why don’t you see if Dean will help you.

174. Comment by Steve | December 15th, 2008

     GroobLi is new to the U.S. market. Reverse Auctions are not however, to find out why GroobLi has a business model that has worked, and will work, go to http://www.MyDroobliShop.com

     Let the customers drive the price down. Great model.

175. Comment by eaglescout | December 15th, 2008

     Hi Gene,

     It’s not something for nothing. It’s nothing for something. I figure, if I’m going to lose my money to Dean and Michael, they should pay me.

176. Comment by Gene | December 15th, 2008

     Why don’t you pay me for you to join?

177. Comment by eaglescout | December 15th, 2008

     Because I don’t get anything out of it.

178. Comment by Gene | December 15th, 2008

     You would get credits to bid in the auctions and the option to buy products at greatly reduced prices. Plus you would be able to do business with others so they could do the same. I have offered you free credits to try the auctions haven’t I?
     That’s the closest I would come to paying you to join.

179. Comment by Gene | December 15th, 2008

     I can imagine your response. NO I will stick my head in the sand before I try your auctions for FREE!

180. Comment by eaglescout | December 15th, 2008

     I don’t want credits. How much without the credits?

181. Comment by Gene | December 15th, 2008

     You can’t do the auctions without credits. Haven’t you been reading the blog? That’s how they work so well.

182. Comment by eaglescout | December 15th, 2008

     I don’t want to buy the credits. I just want to sell them for a commission.

     Why do I need to buy them if I can’t sell them at full price?

183. Comment by Gene | December 15th, 2008

     Well, you have to have them to sell them. You can sell them at full price. That’s just the way the company does it.
     If you are selling on ebay don’t you have to have the products you are going to sell first? Doesn’t McDonalds have burgers to sell and fries and shakes?
     Heres the thing. Just register on my auction site and when the shop comes you can buy to your hearts content without credits.

184. Comment by eaglescout | December 15th, 2008

     Well, you have to have them to sell them. You can sell them at full price. That’s just the way the company does it.

     But if I’m going to get a commission, why do I need to buy credits?

     If you are selling on ebay don’t you have to have the products you are going to sell first?

     Yes, but then you pay a small commission to eBay, not the other way around.

     Doesn’t McDonalds have burgers to sell and fries and shakes?

     Yes, but there aren’t 100 McDonald’s all back-to-back in the same mall selling the same thing.

185. Comment by Gene | December 15th, 2008

     So what does 100 McDonalds back to back sell the same thing in a mall have to do with anything? LOL

186. Comment by eaglescout | December 16th, 2008

     It means that if there were McDonald’s franchises all over the mall there would be a surplus of burgers and their price would come down.

     Same with GroobLi credits. Except Bobby Jensen can create as many credits as he wants, making each one less valuable.

     As it is, they are only worth about 25 cents each, and typically less in the unique-bid auction. That’s at least a 256% markup and on average a 320% markup.

187. Comment by Gene | December 16th, 2008

     But there isn’t is there? A McDonald’s back to back in a mall nor with the company I represent.

     I guess we need a little lesson in economics don’t we? Mark up this.
     The 25 cents you mentioned is considered in lowering the price with each bid of 80 cents. You fail to consider the remaining 55 cents and is put into a bonus pool for the associate. If we are comparing with McDonald’s franchises there is no way that this company has that many yet, but it could be some time. Even if it does come to that, it’s not the same because of the nature of the Internet factor where in every major city there could be dozens of associates and there still would be a business for them. We sell much more then burgers. We have a shop coming. Now we didn’t even mention some associates in small towns or rural areas and this will be world wide. Once you get your customers they are yours for life. How many eBay sellers do you think there are? Is it over saturated? Maybe they could be compared to your mall with more accuracy. But it doesn’t make any difference everyone can make money.
     McDonald’s has more competition then we do. There’s other Burger places competing. Besides they all make more money on the drinks than the burgers. I haven’t seen a burger sold on the Internet yet have you? We don’t have any competition with our reverse auctions! They may come and that’s the nature of free enterprise but we don’t have that yet.
     It doesn’t work the same as creating money. But it could be linked to money as the value falls or rises but that’s across the board for any business. That would be the only link. If credits were simply created someone would have to pay to lower the price of the product and pay the associate. It’s all worked out.

188. Comment by Ricardo | December 16th, 2008

     Fantastic…very Interesting…I am looking at Droobli and i ahve to say I learned a lot …both ways.
     Thanks
     Ricardo

189. Comment by GlobalTradingPatron | December 16th, 2008

     Wow. I never thought that I would ever make it through this entire controversy. Yes, I am a Droobli Gold member and I wanted to find out what was out here on the Internet to persuade or disuade people from joining. I cannot conclusively decide one way or another who is telling the truth here. EagleScout (Of which I am one too) seems to keep his cool much better than others which disturbs me. If Droobli is so good then present the true facts about it and let the facts talk, don’t get angry and demeaning… that just makes you look less credible… It is interesting to me that Droobli has come out with statements against these eaglescout’s posts. Thanks to Sam for letting us know about that in Post 156. I am not sure what to conclude. I bought into the Droobli concept and I want it to succeed. The problem is that if Droobli doesn’t stay clear with its vision of excellent customer service then people like “Suckered Again” will complain to the FBI and they will shut it down anyway whether or not it was legitimate. The founders have to be ethical and stay true to their business associates and to their customers, work out the kinks and do their best. Tom’s video about Droobli being the “perfect storm” is amazing: http://www.smartwinshop.com/The%20Perfect%20Storm%2011-13-08.html The story is that Droobli contacted Tom to help market Droobli with a new concept called the “Cinch”. Doesn’t the Cinch make sense? I was not aware that Droobli collapsed in Spain and Denmark…I want to do more research on that…sometime we learn that when we take one steps forward we take two steps back. Does a bankruptsy and failure in one country prove that the company cannot learn and grow toward eventual success? I believe that what I am hearing from Droobli is visionary as far as marketing, as far as doing business on the Internet virally and with the Cinch, as far as getting consumers a great value on products. There will be enough people to use the auctions and the games eventually such that it will leverage the enormous and vast number of users on the Internet…people, only bid on the things that you actually want…look at the price and buy if you want it. I am excited about Droobli…I appreciate that there is another side and that eagleScout is trying to help us take a close look at what Droobli is in his mind, but Droobli’s concepts are perfect for the Internet to leverage the masses of people on the Internet, to get brand new, warranteed products for less than retail. Research the facts. I understand where you are going with the math, eaglescout, but over time there will be many more consumers than business “owners” in Droobli and those mathematical calculations will not hold in the Xpress auctions. The only way I will be wrong on this is if people continue to buy into naysayers and if Droobli does not improve and maintain its good customer service. If either of those things continue, then what you are suggesting about Droobli’s immenent death will occur. So all of you Pro Droobli people out there, stay close to Droobli and fight for the great customer service that we deserve. It will benefit us and Droobli in the long run because none of us want to see Droobli die like eagleScout predicts.
     On another note I must say that eagleScout’s example of Joseph Smith was totally out of sorts. Joseph didn’t get to keep the Gold anyway, he translated the Holy words of prophets from the Gold plates into English so that we could have it in the current “Book of Mormon”: http://scriptures.lds.org/en/bm/contents Joseph Smith was a noble man of great character and should not be used as an example when you are trying to make something look like a fraud. I am a member of the church Joseph Smith organized and though this may not be the appropriate forum for this discussion I would like to clear his name that he did not get any financial gain from having the Golden Book. BTW: There were at least 11 others who saw the book and testified of its existence, so it really did exist. Thanks again for your forum and I hope that it will help people come to a good conclusion for themselves and their families. For me, I am going to continue running with Droobli and hope that it will last for a long, long time. Have a great day!

190. Comment by GlobalTradingPatron | December 17th, 2008

     BTW: The Joseph Smith stuff I am referring to is in another one of Eaglescout’s forums: http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/2008/11/03/droobli-is-not-registered-in-delaware/

191. Comment by eaglescout | December 17th, 2008

     Sorry about the veiled criticism on Joseph Smith. Joseph Smith didn’t keep the gold plates, but he did earn a lot of money from tithe, which some people consider was motivated by fraud.

     Also, if you use math to measure the weight of the golden plates, the calculation comes out to 200 pounds. This means he couldn’t have carried them around with him and jumped over logs as described by him.

192. Comment by eaglescout | December 17th, 2008

     Another erroneous assertion is that one pays $3,000.00 to get into the company. Really if one wants to do business they must have credits and the best way to get in is at the gold level because you get the best discount on them which in turn you sell to your customers so they can bid in the auctions.

     So then it’s not an erroneous assumption. It’s correct.

     One can also become an associate for just under an $800.00 purchase of credits. You have to have the credits to do business as an associate.

     Again, these credits are highly marked up.

     But there isn’t is there? A McDonald’s back to back in a mall nor with the company I represent.

     No, but the same principle applies.

     The 25 cents you mentioned is considered in lowering the price with each bid of 80 cents. You fail to consider the remaining 55 cents and is put into a bonus pool for the associate.

     Yes, after you pay for it. In other words, you pay for your own bonus – and then *maybe* you get it.

     If we are comparing with McDonald’s franchises there is no way that this company has that many yet, but it could be some time. Even if it does come to that, it’s not the same because of the nature of the Internet factor where in every major city there could be dozens of associates and there still would be a business for them. We sell much more then burgers. We have a shop coming. Now we didn’t even mention some associates in small towns or rural areas and this will be world wide. Once you get your customers they are yours for life. How many eBay sellers do you think there are? Is it over saturated? Maybe they could be compared to your mall with more accuracy. But it doesn’t make any difference everyone can make money.

     Everyone can make money on GroobLi. Only Bobby Jensen will make a profit. There is a difference between a possibility and a probability. And your probability of coming out ahead is only very low by design.

     We don’t have any competition with our reverse auctions! They may come and that’s the nature of free enterprise but we don’t have that yet.

     Yes you do. You compete with every GroobLi cross-line; and you compete with state-lotteries, bingo, and online gambling.

     It doesn’t work the same as creating money. But it could be linked to money as the value falls or rises but that’s across the board for any business. That would be the only link. If credits were simply created someone would have to pay to lower the price of the product and pay the associate. It’s all worked out.

     No, this is one of the major reasons why it works out like a scam. Most people purchase the credits as a license, not as “auction” play money.

     It might work out for a few months, but then people will realize they’ve lost 97% of their investment.

     However, I can see that you are beginning to think for yourself.

193. Comment by GlobalTradingPatron | December 17th, 2008

     Here is an interesting article about tumbaga, a material used in ancient America which has the appearance of Gold which could explain how the plates Joseph Smith had were lighter and he could have definitely jumped over trees with a 53 to 86 lbs object instead of 200. http://www.mormonfortress.com/gweight.html

     Anyway, thank you for acknowledging that your example was a veiled criticism on Joseph Smith. I appreciate that.

194. Comment by Gene | December 17th, 2008

     Eagle everyone can see you don’t know what you are talking about.

195. Comment by Gene | December 17th, 2008

     Let’s also be honest eagle you have your own agenda.
     I don’t think it’s honorable either.

196. Comment by Gene | December 17th, 2008

     We don’t have any competition with our reverse auctions!
     What didn’t you understand about this?

197. Comment by eaglescout | December 18th, 2008

     Eagle everyone can see you don’t know what you are talking about.

     I’m not sure what you are talking about.

     Let’s also be honest eagle you have your own agenda.
     I don’t think it’s honorable either.

     Everyone has an agenda; that doesn’t mean I’m lying. What exactly is dishonorable about showing that Bobby Jensen is a liar?

     We don’t have any competition with our reverse auctions!
     What didn’t you understand about this?

     Yes you do. I just explained it to you in comment #192.

198. Comment by eaglescout | December 18th, 2008

     It is interesting to me that Droobli has come out with statements against these eaglescout’s posts. Thanks to Sam for letting us know about that in Post 156.

     I didn’t know Bobby Jensen was lying about me either. I’m glad Sam put that up.

     I am not sure what to conclude. I bought into the Droobli concept and I want it to succeed. The problem is that if Droobli doesn’t stay clear with its vision of excellent customer service then people like “Suckered Again” will complain to the FBI and they will shut it down anyway whether or not it was legitimate.

     “Suckered Again”’s situation didn’t have anything to do with customer service. He/She said it had to do with not getting paid as expected.

     I was not aware that Droobli collapsed in Spain and Denmark…I want to do more research on that…sometime we learn that when we take one steps forward we take two steps back. Does a bankruptsy and failure in one country prove that the company cannot learn and grow toward eventual success?

     No, but it strongly suggests it, and the fact that Bobby Jensen lied about publicly available records, shows that perhaps he hasn’t changed.

     I understand where you are going with the math, eaglescout, but over time there will be many more consumers than business “owners” in Droobli and those mathematical calculations will not hold in the Xpress auctions.

     The Xpress calculations will hold regardless of the number of customers. GroobLi can never earn money from Xpress auctions unless they mark up the price to 125% of market value.

199. Comment by Gene | December 18th, 2008

     Why is 125% a magic number? You like to pull things out
     of a hat don’t you?
     
     I will see what I can do to help you understand.

     Eagle is a poor twister of the facts.
     One good example is when I said,
     “We don’t have any competition with our reverse auctions!”
     He went about to spin something that is obviously incongruant that there is compitition within the company. Sure, that is a given. If you look at it that way McDonalds has competition with ifself. How foolish.
     What you all must know is that I meant outside the company there isn’t any others that are able to compete with our (reverse autions).

     Eagle says, I hope you are not suggesting that paying GroobLi $3000 for a webpage is entrepreneurial.

     Nobody is paying $3,000 just for a web page that’s ludicrous as I pointed out.
     One gets 6,000 credits when you come in at gold and are sold for 80 cents a piece. You sell them so your customers can do the auctions. If you’re not into sales then maybe try something else. But once you establish a business it can be automatic. Just like the customers walking in and out of the big departments stores doing business. At least that’s how I see it. But of course when any new venture starts we have these guys calling it a scam.

     He also overgeneralises when talking about two countries that may not have worked out and ignores the success of the many others.

200. Comment by eaglescout | December 18th, 2008

     Why is 125% a magic number? You like to pull things out
     of a hat don’t you?

     Not really. Go read about it

     In the Xpress auction, if GroobLi sets the starting price to market value then someone will grab it before it gets discounted. That means GroobLi made 80 cents from one “bid” but lost the entire price of the item.

     They have to set the price higher, or there won’t be enough bids to pay for the item.

     What you all must know is that I meant outside the company there isn’t any others that are able to compete with our (reverse autions).

     I already mentioned state lotteries and online gambling. They offer the same services, and in the case of gambling, you usually lose less money.

     If you look at it that way McDonalds has competition with ifself. How foolish.

     That’s right. It wouldn’t be a good idea to put up four of them at every corner of an intersection.

     Nobody is paying $3,000 just for a web page that’s ludicrous as I pointed out.
     One gets 6,000 credits when you come in at gold and are sold for 80 cents a piece.

     So you are paying 50 cents for credits that are worth 25 cents or less, and where does the extra 30 cents go?

     But of course when any new venture starts we have these guys calling it a scam.

     Not always.

     He also overgeneralises when talking about two countries that may not have worked out and ignores the success of the many others.

     Which ones, Germany and…?

     Also, I wasn’t generalizing about countries. I was discussing the trends. Are you aware that almost every GroobLi executive has been involved in fraudulent schemes? Read up on Ubifone and Carlos Oestby.

201. Comment by Gene | December 19th, 2008

     Wow I didn’t know that so you think they’ll run off with my money?

202. Comment by Robbie | December 19th, 2008

     “Which ones, Germany and…?”

     Hi eaglescout,

     Didn’t you get my e-mail? Droobli is NOT a success in Germany. Never was and – let me shake this crystal ball – never will be, unless they come up with some groundbreaking concept, which I seriously doubt. Right now hardly anyone knows about them, they’re not being discussed anywhere on the German Internet (you can find a few older discussions on message boards), they’re simply not happening.
     I think this whole discussion is hilarious, you’re incredibly patient. Keep up the good work.

     Robbie, Germany

203. Comment by Gene | December 19th, 2008

     Wow again. You mean I should stop my business right now and never promote this concept here again that seems to be taking off so well. Everyone is so incredibly patient. Well we’ll have to see how this goes in the US. I figure I’ll give it a try for awhile after all I came in as gold and I do have a lot of customers now and the auctions seem to be going fine. I just ordered something myself and hope to get it before Christmas. Shoot I may be laughing all the way to the bank.

204. Comment by eaglescout | December 20th, 2008

     Hi Robbie, I did not receive your email.

     I don’t really believe GroobLi is a success in Germany. I was just playing along to make a different point.

     I think the discussion is hilarious, too.

     I’m fairly certain GroobLi’s only customers are GroobLi’s promoters. All 57 of them.

     The only person making money off GroobLi this Christmas is Bobby Jensen.

     By the way, Gene, there are many “M Jensens”, but only one Michael Brudevold Jensen.

     Do I think they’ll run off with your money? No. They don’t need to because they already have it.

205. Comment by Gene | December 21st, 2008

     So what’s your name?

206. Comment by Name | December 21st, 2008

     Oh I guess I will have to work the business. As you say they’ve got my money. They haven’t run off and hid yet. I did pay for the credits. And as you say we do have a lot of competition. Where did you come up with the figure 57? If that’s the case then I don’t have a lot of competition cross line. LOL Sounds like you’re coming around and admitting we do have a viable business. Click on Name!

207. Comment by Robbie | December 21st, 2008

     Hi again,

     I used the address iSpin@thespinfactor.com. Hm, maybe it got into a spam folder?

     Gene, I don’t want to tell you what you should or should not do. I just wanted to point out that the ‘German success story’, like many other so called pro-Droobli facts in this case, wasn’t exactly the truth.

208. Comment by eaglescout | December 21st, 2008

     Hi Gene, I already responded to Bobby Jensen’s false allegations

     And I already explained how I came up with 57. Look it up.

209. Comment by Name | December 21st, 2008

     You can’t make up your mind now can you?
     Doesn’t McDonald’s compete with the company?

     Remember I said that the company doesn’t have any competion and you agree with me and then you change your mind.
     HOW can anyone take you seriously? Hmm

210. Comment by Name | December 21st, 2008

     As I reviewed your link didn’t you say,

     For obvious competitive reasons? I’m still waiting to find out what those are. Who competes with GroobLi anyway?

211. Comment by eaglescout | December 22nd, 2008

     Hi Gene,

     You can’t make up your mind now can you?
     Doesn’t McDonald’s compete with the company?

     Who says McDonald’s competes with GroobLi?

     Remember I said that the company doesn’t have any competion and you agree with me and then you change your mind.
     HOW can anyone take you seriously? Hmm

     No, Gene. I responded to Bobby Jensen’s false allegations on December 10th, as soon as I found out he had written his publicly verifiable lies.

     The “conversation” with you was on December 15th.

     So, in fact, I haven’t changed my mind. You just have poor comprehension skills.

     As I reviewed your link didn’t you say,

     For obvious competitive reasons? I’m still waiting to find out what those are. Who competes with GroobLi anyway?

     Yes, that is exactly what I said. Do you understand what a rhetorical question is?

     This is in reference to the claims that I must work for eBay.
     The truth is GroobLi doesn’t pose a threat to eBay, because GroobLi doesn’t do auctions.

     “Who competes with GroobLi anyway?” is a rhetorical question. In essence I am saying GroobLi is so puny that nobody needs to compete with them, so even if I was in league with eBay, Bobby Jensen’s implication doesn’t make any sense.

     More importantly you didn’t even read the sentence correctly. I am asking why would *I* (or anyone for that matter) need to compete with GroobLi?

     Do you get it?

212. Comment by Name | December 22nd, 2008

     Right, read my lips, why would you need to have all this rhetoric if you’re not worried about this puny company? You seem to be hyper sensitive about it.
     Yes in fact the company is small but you keep making it larger than life. It is in it’s infancy here. Why not give it a chance to prove itself as a major competitor in the US? Which it may very well be.
     I don’t think my comprehension is in question. Attack the man. Yes I discovered you already agreed with me before I made the statement and then you changed your mind while tackling the inconstancy with me. Even though you claim a rhetorical question as you say it is in fact a statement of your belief at that time. You did go on to use McDonald’s as a metaphor. Intimating there is so much competition with the company as to dissuade any further promotion as if the company was at it’s saturation point. From Dec 10 to Dec 15 at which point I made my statement, that there is no competition with our reverse auctions you did suggest earlier, Who need compete with Them, as if the company is a fly on the wall and with your conversances with me you kind of flipped? But spin on your way Robbie with your scamapedia.

     So do you get it?

213. Comment by eaglescout | December 23rd, 2008

     No, your comprehension is not in question. I already *know* your comprehension is at the third grade level.

     Please read the entire internet and come back when you are done.

214. Comment by Name | December 23rd, 2008

     Well now, I could point out the same advantages for you, so go ahead and follow your own instruction. Because you are attacking something you know very little about. You must be a person with too much time on their hands. You pull numbers out of a hat. You make up stats. You lie about people.
     You change your mind. You confuse events. So who has a problem with comprehension? Many of us are trying to do a good business and you attempt very feebly to destroy. Anyone can see what you’re doing. I don’t know where these people come from that give you kudos, it’s ridiculous. Click name to see what’s coming and check the last link. Here’s the thing. See if we are not competitive. You may be looking to buy something anyhow. Look around and see what you want, price it else where and bid here. If you want a business that’s going places join me. You can register for free.

215. Comment by eaglescout | December 23rd, 2008

     You pull numbers out of a hat. You make up stats. You lie about people.
     You change your mind. You confuse events. So who has a problem with comprehension?

     Still waiting for an example. Read through this page and see how many times you’ve been proven wrong about:

     1) Bobby Jensen’s multiple bankruptcies.
     2) Everything else.

     Because you are attacking something you know very little about.

     I taught you everything you know about GroobLi, remember? You are just a very poor student.

     Are you done reading the Internet? If not, why are you still here?

216. Comment by Name | December 23rd, 2008

     You have enough examples right here.

217. Comment by snooseyouloose | December 24th, 2008

     Hi eaglescout.

     Keep up the good work. True business people know all about Droobli and the 30.000 Internet Paparazzi from 1Cellnet, Ubifone, Droobli and now Zaptowin do not care about the normal people looking for legitimate business. I promise you that most of those guys that play the trumpet here are nothing else like being part of a constant 20.000-30.000 strong CONTEAM.

     You have the support of many true business people that are 100% in agreement with you and your observations and investigations.

     If you need any further support please do not hesitate to get in touch with me since I am personally proud that you have balls to fight them.

     And for all the Droobli Trumpet players, Wake up stop promoting fraud. You will not be the first and not be the last that will get locked up for your action. And everything you write to make a positive impact to support Drooblie will be presented to you when you stand up for your action in front of the judge in your own country.
     The Leaders already leaving the boat and started the next one. Zaptowin and/or Zappadeal, you be surprised how quick they are leaving the sinking boat.

     BTW the Authorities that are looking into the past 8-10 years of the involved peoples record are calculating a massive 200 Mio USD and more fraud. So this will be fun to observe and not so much fun for the thousands of true people that have made to believe and are willingly ignorant to the truth.

218. Comment by Name | December 24th, 2008

     Hey buddy your art of deception is apparent here with all the other ridiculous kudos. The company has a decent business plan and there is no fraud. Where did you come from? I guess we won’t bother with your business. Why are you involving yourself with the eagle’s fraud? I just got a gift for my son over the weekend and got it Monday. Sure I use the company and why not. It works. Happy holidays.

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220. Comment by Charlie | December 26th, 2008

     Aloha Eaglescout, I do admire your patience, last time I posted i intentially tried to get a rise out of you and it didn’t work so you are obviously a person of intelligence. My situation is I bought into Droobli for $800 U.S. which immediately gave me 1100 Droobli credits which I used to explore the Express Aution site I bought a Nano Ipod for $5.00 plus $5.00 Shipping then I purchased a Bose surround sound Ipod charger for $1.00 and $15.00 Shipping and then I purchased a sony hanycam for $25.00 plus $15.00 shipping. The items arrived at my home 72 hours via UPS and I Love my Presents for myself. I also have a business opportunity for my $800, so not counting the money I’ve already made, I feel I’m already ahead for the money I’ve invested. I’m sorry if people are having negative experiences with Droobli but so far I’m loving it! As far as the Genius who said we’re all going to be locked up, You’re simply an idiot, just a good old fashioned moron nothing more and i believe McDonalds is accepting applications, Good Luck!

221. Comment by eaglescout | December 26th, 2008

     Hi Charlie; I doubt you’ll be locked up, but I would be wary of business opportunities where you end up buying most of your own product. You mention purchasing a Nano Ipod for 5 dollars at the Xpress auction? I really don’t mean to sound negative, but why didn’t someone snap it up at $5.25 or even at $10.00?

222. Comment by Charlie | December 27th, 2008

     Truthfully, I’ve been asking alot of questions like that, and I’m not getting the answers I’d like. For now I’m holding off on anything Droobli until I learn more, time will certainly tell all. Furthermore it did cost me about 1000 droobli credits to get those prices, so if I had bought those credits (Actually I did by joining) the whole shopping spree would have cost me about $800, it was sort of a take the money and run idea for me.

223. Comment by Gene | December 28th, 2008

     It’s going to be exciting when thousands are using the company. Even millions of people. A real on line business!
     We’re just getting started. I ordered a scooter for my son on the xpress auction. Used one credit. Got it before Christmas.
     Came right to my door.

224. Comment by Visman | December 28th, 2008

     With no physical presence in South Africa, why would Droobli SPAM, since I never invited them localy?

     Or would they be using their profits to set up base here? I sincerely do not think they would get far, maybe a few might be conned. Why buy my own business products to make money from my own money spent? Where is the profit in that?

     Fact is, I looked through the site. Too many unanswered questions … Smelled a rat, followed up and for sure will not invest.

     But it is also true, people will always defend their own bad decisions, we all make them some time or another, just some come at a cost …

     Regards
     Visman
     Pretoria
     South Africa

225. Comment by Visman | December 28th, 2008

     Some maybe non beneficial information …

     I operate my own business in the legal arena after having made some of my own bad decisions. Ex SA Police officer. Now chairing disciplinary hearings for business owners. Yup the bad guy that fires all the innocent employees.
     If I had to chair this hearing?

     Sorry but …
     The chairperson on a balance of probabilities can advice only one sanction after comparing all the probabilities and facts …

     Summary dismissal for Droobli with immediate effect!
     The chairperson

226. Comment by Name | December 28th, 2008

     Yes I would agree for a summary dismissal for the company. Yes this blog should have a real case against the company by now but does it really? We have no real matters of law or facts presented against the company. Just look at all the links yourself and you be the judge. Much hearsay and innuendos are presented. Little in the way of facts.

     This is a company with a great plan to be a part of for anyone serious in making good money honestly with a perfectly legal business on the Internet with quality products such as you’d find in any of the other auction sites. In fact if you are an associate why would you want to buy at any other auction sites because you’re not likely to get a better deal even if you have to spend some credits doing it. This company is not a bad investment and could be virtually automatic once you’ve set it up. It will be world wide. But don’t take my word for it. I guess one has to figure it out for themselves, but don’t take too long. Again look at all the info and links then get to the bottom of it for yourself.

227. Comment by Dublin-h8r | December 28th, 2008

     Dear Eaglescout,

     Please contact me via email at chrisrock1337@yahoo.com

     I have a uncle who is a droobli promoter, he has been in many scams ( pyramid schemes) such as earth-link and mona vie. He got most of my family selling mona vie, and is now i guess onto this new scam droobli. He came to me the other day, showing me the droobli website. Convincing me its a money saving website but he must of thought i was stupid to buy into his bullsh!t. He emailed me some credits and told me to show the website to my friends,(which i never did). After some research i figured out what droobli really is about,thanks to you and some other info.

     Maybe after some more info about droobli i can confront my uncle about this scam and the rest of my family.

     Thx! Please dont forget to email me

228. Comment by Dublin-h8r | December 28th, 2008

     Also eaglescout, as you know, pretty much every dam person who is replying to your post are stupid salesmen who bought into the droobli scam so but not me

     and im on your side.. i will check this blog everyday.

229. Comment by eaglescout | December 28th, 2008

     Hi GroobLi-h8r,

     If you can do it respectfully, you might ask your uncle about all the failed MLMs he was involved with, and why this one is different in a good way.

     If your family is pretty good with math, you could have them work out the probabilities of winning the Zero Auction.

     You could show them how the price in the Xpress Auction can never go below market value – unless GroobLi is rigged.

     If they have any good friends like a math teacher, she might be able to show them their real chances of saving money.

     I’ll send you an email sometime, in case you had other questions.

     Good luck.

230. Comment by Visman | December 29th, 2008

     Believe me, I have read every single comment and every single link, some plausible, but some hilariously laughable. I have done some of my own investigating too. Placing same has nothing to do with the topic in my mind right now. It does however corroborate and leads eventually to the same links provided here. To repeat what is already available serves no purpose. What does serve purpose though is to rather look from a different angle in the longer term.

     Would you marry somebody and trust that person with your life who cheated ruthlessly on his / her ex and has done the same to the next “life partner”?

     Furthermore, the one that lashes out first personally lost the intellectual fight and does not have the intellectual capacity to overcome, therefore easily bluffed by nice on the first appearance and well worked out statements. BUT … Fails to discern what is hidden behind that smooth well versed and practised statements. What looks pretty on the outside is not always pretty on the inside, specifically when it is GREED driven, and unfortunately greed seems to be the motivating factor nearly always in scams. It is abundantly clear that money is made through selling licenses, not products.

     Furthermore, when the top senior management is a liar, and continuous to blatantly do same, how do one defend such? Clearly past conduct is predicting future results. Nothing has changed, but one nearly always find that such is driven by clever word manipulating charismatic individuals, ruthless in achieving their own gaol serving their own greed. Needless to say, they leave some seriously hurt and damaged victims behind while they rolled their riches out into some trust registered in the names of someone else.

     Many such schemes have touched base in South Africa, and it has nearly always been there final demise. They have just started following the same route. Interestingly so from America. Now one operating from Europe, more specifically so Germany moves into the American riches. It never has the country’s finances at heart, but fulfil its own greed by cleverly manipulating the greed resident in individuals with cleverly worded statements and picture playing of a financial independent future in the likes of their own.

     Being dishonest at the highest level builds the castles of others on sand. The wind will eventually blow it away.

     These individuals cannot be at first glance identified, nor with a first meeting, and takes some pretty good discernment to see through them. When one has been taken the one that was taken is nearly always the one that refuses, although they realise it, to admit it to themselves until it is too late. Another factor used by ruthless individuals.

     Nobody is immune and at some or other time such destructive but on the outside great opportunities crosses everybody’s path. They all over, and the main foundation found always is one thing only …
     GREED!

     It is hidden behind pretty statements in likes of job creation, an opportunity for everybody … sit back, relax and see the money flow in.

     I have nothing against anybody getting filthy rich, but when it comes at a cost for individuals, families, kids … it does not equal even murder, it is worse, more despicable. While many such individuals have everything, in the path behind them they leave many a hope and hungry kid behind feeding there own greed of them, totally forgetting them, most they did not even know.

     And they hide behind Christianity?
     Or is it a deep caring why they share their new found and well worked out plan?
     The earlier, the better time to get involved. The early bird catches the fly, and always makes a buck, but they are also the ones that face the ones that lost, loosing friends, family, kids.

     The ruthless move on to the next scheme and victims … We have learned from past mistakes and experience, this time we have it well put together … and we another set of victims?

     And when many being on this blog having felt the pain, warn the next set of victims they will stand in wonder to see how those victims defends their decision with awesome pride in their believe in what will be there at last so hard sought after financial freedom.

     And the circle continues … the ruthless a little more clever getting past their own PAST with more cleverly thought out devices and schemes.

     I build my business from nothing and I do an honest hard day’s work that is not dependant on the schemes of others doing the thinking work for me with empty promises giving me sleepless nights. My business, me and my 8 year old daughter is in my hands, and we are in the hands of the hands I hold, the one and true God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. I trust no other.

     Regards
     Visman

231. Comment by Name | December 29th, 2008

     Grant it Visman, there are scams out there but you paint a very bleak picture for free enterprise. That’s what we have with the company. You say you work your business with nothing.
     You must have some sweat equity in it somewhere. Don’t you? Or do expect something for nothing.
     We have an honest business and I thought we already had a summary dismissal of the company. Is every salesman motivated by greed? Can’t one make an online business to make money to support their family? If you can’t afford the venture just don’t do it! You don’t have to tear it apart with meaningless rambling.

232. Comment by Dublin-h8r | December 29th, 2008

     Visman,
     All your doing with your posts is trying to confuse people and stray from the fact that your an “associate” to an illegal MLM scheme, and now that you realized it, your just trying to make all the money back you can before droobli is gone.
     gl with you

     Eaglescout,

     please email me about how the zero and unique options are a scam bcuz from what i can tell… if you check a item like the 5000 wallmart giftcard…check it every week(once) and when it gets to 50$ left then use alot of credits to get it? Thats would be worth it? Unless they automatically have the computer get .25-0 or there is no giftcard. Im sure something is wrong there…but im just wondering how those options work.

     Thx

233. Comment by eaglescout | December 29th, 2008

     To Droobli-h8r,

     I don’t think there’s any reason to believe Visman is deliberately trying to confuse people.

     In fact, Visman’s comments are worth sharing with your family and anyone who approaches you with a questionable MLM scheme.

     please email me about how the zero and unique options are a scam bcuz from what i can tell… if you check a item like the 5000 wallmart giftcard…check it every week(once) and when it gets to 50$ left then use alot of credits to get it?

     That could work in the Zero auction. But if everybody is doing that it becomes like a lottery again.

     h8r, the scam isn’t in the games, but in the way they are presented. When this article was written, GroobLi had really confusing terms and conditions regarding shipping.

     Also, according to the current terms and conditions, if you spend one credit, you can’t get a refund on the other 799.

     So, yes, you could win a prize every now and then, but if there are enough participants, it’s like playing the lottery.

     The article on GroobLi’s business model and revenue has more details.

234. Comment by eaglescout | December 29th, 2008

     To Gene “Name”,

     You don’t have to tear it apart with meaningless rambling.

     I would hardly call Visman’s comments “meaningless rambling.”

     I partly disagree with Visman’s characterization of greed (unless Visman means greed at the expense of stealing from families or similar), but everything else is right on.

     I’m guessing you didn’t read Visman’s comments or didn’t understand them.

235. Comment by Name | December 29th, 2008

     OH

236. Comment by Dublin-h8r | December 29th, 2008

     HI Eaglescout,
     thx for the link about droobli revenue which filled me in on some more info.

     So my uncle is a really smart guy and a fast talker, he has done many mlm’s and im wondering are the people who run these mlm’s just scamming him, into believing he will make money in the long run? and he is that stupid to believe them? Although i do not know how high on the pyramid he is bcuz he might make money in the long run who knows.

     Also, in the zero auctions(completed auctions) it shows the usernames of who has won some prizes and it sounds like alot of those people must be made up usernames bcuz they are very similar.
     For example:MyDroobliPays,ILIKEWINNING, YOUGOTTOBEFAST, iwinyoulose,bidder1234,DroobliDoRite,iclickbetter.

     See all the usernames have to do with droobli, or winning someething…most likely made up just to false advertise more completed auctions than there really are.

     I really do hope the FBI is investigating this, as the very dumb associates who got tricked into joining droobli will just have wasted all this time with droobli.-.-

237. Comment by Name | December 29th, 2008

     Wow where did you come up with them usernames?

238. Comment by Dublin-h8r | December 29th, 2008

     To “Name”,

     Easy just go to the “zero” option of the droobli website, then click “completed auctions” on the left of the screen… start scrolling down and you will see all those usernames and those usernames have won multiple times.

239. Comment by Visman | December 30th, 2008

     To identify a scam is not only based in the numbers. There are various factors to consider. One normally starts with the who behind it, cause if you don’t you leave yourself wide open to an abusive business relationship.

     By the way it is only ships at sea that sail.

     Any business based on dishonesty / managed via dishonesty is doomed, not by me or anybody, but within itself, be it free enterprise or not.

     It is logic; nothing comes for nothing, which does not need any argument whatsoever. Neither serves any point to argue it since it is common sense. Yes sweat did go into it big time, but it is build on my own sweat, not piggy backing on the sweat of someone else.

     Dark picture? That depends entirely on how and with which perspective you understand / interpret what I wrote. With summary dismissal I meant … guilty on a balance of probabilities and fired. I will not invest in any form of dishonesty. Any business minded person will tell you that dishonesty, more specifically at senior level with decision makers is detrimental for any investor. Businesses are not built on promises.

     As for greed. Any good sales person uses greed and plays on the greed factor as part of the marketing concept. If you do not understand that, I suggest you write in for a good coarse in marketing. I have no intention in giving you one for free. I charge per hour for my work. Promises of a good to even great riches. Savings and so on. Using them all correctly building in an element of trust and help and you have your victim. The first element is always trust, then the rest completing the circle with the final HELP factor. Everybody uses it in some or other way closing a deal. It’s called good business. Unfortunately the same concepts is available to ruthless people.

     In a scam this is combined with inner greed used by ruthless scammers who do not care who they harm on their way to the own riches. It is their motivating and moving factor for setting up the scam in the first place.

     I have no intention in getting into meaningless arguments with anybody who so ever. If one does not have the perspective to understand what I said it is no fault of mine.

     First to understand one needs the willingness to think about what you read and then the ability to understand, and then furthermore the ability to act according to that understanding. That will bring anyone to a decision based on sound information. If any part of this is missing, then, well, you need to ask who ever to type a little slower allowing you to also read and comprehend what is meant …..

     and maybe, just , maybe …

     And no, I am in no dubious MLM scheme. Sole owner of a registered business with taxes, employees, water and lights all paid up to date. However, I have had to help a few friends that allowed themselves to be misleading out of trouble after the dam wall burst.

     You have read what was written. How you manage it is your own decision.

     Wishing you all the best.
     Visman

240. Comment by Name | December 30th, 2008

     If I wrote in for a book for a course on marketing and got it what chapter would I look for Green with Greed. Give me a break!
     I don’t know what’s with you. Have you been stung too much by those African bees? Can’t anyone do an honest business on the Internet without guys like you being dishonest about it’s nature and intent?
     I believe in honest business myself and from what I see your arguments have failed.
     For anyone interested look at my auction site click on Name and see if you find these user names spoken of above. I did and I don’t see any such thing. Hey thanks for bringing it up.

241. Comment by Name | December 30th, 2008

     Hey the proof is in the pudding. You may get
     a good deal on the HP EliteBook 6930p in the express
     auction. It looked good to me. I’ll let it go down a bit but still a better price than I’ve seen around. Click on Name.

242. Comment by Visman | December 31st, 2008

     Like I said, no business getting into meaningless senseless personal issues and slandering. Wanna get personal you need some eye balling. Face it man to man. That is not possible, and I do not see why I should waist any energy or for that matter any intellectual energy on such. Getting personal here means you have run out of arguments and lost the intellectual fight, which is not what it was meant to be. My suggestion that the site / blog was meant to be a grown up method of sharing information. Unfortunately for some the lifts door has closed.

     Some good advice, don’t scream; come up with a stronger argument. Now smile!!! Get over it and have a nice party!! Its the last chance for 2008.

     Fact remains, much more information and forums discussing the matters is available on the internet. Let your fingers do the walking.

     Ya all have a nice day and the very best for 2009!
     Its party time … braaivleis, bier en biltong … and no I am not going to translate it for you!:-)

243. Comment by Name | December 31st, 2008

     What got me really interested in the company with the reverse auctions is the fact that the cost of items actually go down and I thought, what a unique concept. Plus it’s not just a few products. It’s a multitude of products. It’s a global trading portal. Also I realized it was new here. What an opportunity for me. Will it catch on here or not that is still up in the air. I can see why some would call it a scam because it has a bit of network marketing in it which for me is the smart way to leverage your time. Who was it that said, I’d rather make 1 % on a hundred peoples efforts than 100% of my own? Wow what a concept and with this company there is a great possibility to capitalize on the customer base. I mean if in fact as shown in Germany each customer invites 5 new customers and they too, do the same, inviting 5 more and then they do. Well you can see the viral nature of this. Sure it’s new here now but don’t you think it will really catch on? I am thinking that it will. If you had a thousand customers. You might say no way. Well if one invites 5 and then they invite 5. 5×5 is 25, 25×5 is 125, 125×5 is 625, 625×5 is 3125, 3125×5 is 15625. What is that 5 generations?
     Ok so say you get 10 cents from each customer a month. Now that is very conservative. That’s $1,562.50. Please check my math, if it is correct. Now that’s a pretty good part time job isn’t it? Now what if you made a dollar a month on each customer. Wouldn’t that be $15,625.00 a month? Could you live on that? It won’t come easy because some blogger’s screaming scam. But didn’t they do that with eBay? I don’t know. Now here’s where your other associates come in. They will develop their organization while inviting their 5 customers and then they’ll invite 5 and so on we have this viral thing going on again. You will get a percentage of their efforts and what if you had 100 associates? Hey invite 100 customers. Well you better get started. There’s no time like the present. I will try to help you as I can. It’s going to get real busy. One more thing. For you business owners I believe there is coming a market place where you can sell you products also. Just for that reason it would be good to join. Just click on Name above in this post. I thank the blog again for this opportunity.

244. Comment by eaglescout | January 2nd, 2009

     You might say no way. Well if one invites 5 and then they invite 5. 5×5 is 25, 25×5 is 125, 125×5 is 625, 625×5 is 3125, 3125×5 is 15625. What is that 5 generations?

     No, that’s 6 generations.

     GroobLi has 50-60 promoters now; that’s barely enough for 2 generations with 5 down-lines each. How do expect to get 3125 promoters under you? Even Bobby Jensen can’t do it.

245. Comment by Eric | January 3rd, 2009

     girlscout,
     you really think droobli only has 50-60 promoters?
     I put in over 60 in the last 3 weeks with over 84 customers and made over 11k.
     what are you talking about?
     there are over 3k promoters (associates) in the US now in about 3 months ish.
     Droobli will be dumping about 50 mil in advertising in January 2009 alone and is projected to have over 1 million customers by Feb 2009. So far no one has called the DA office with a formal complaint that someone did not get paid or someone did not get their item purchased or delivered. Why dont you get on a plane next weekend and meet me in Arizona to stand in front of the warehouse that was created in this big elaborate SCAM you speak of and we can see, feel, and touch the very items you think dont exist or are upsold by 1000% Maybe I will take you to Target and by you a logic and critial thinking CD set from the 500 dollar gift card i bought on droobli for 329 dollars (last time i checked 329 bucks for a 500 dollar gift card is not a 1000 % mark up). Or maybe the car or the plane ride to get there is also a scam in your mind, those dirty transportation tools, how dare they get me from point a to b…..lol. Hey, maybe this droobli thing was all made up by you so the injury hotline at the bottom of this page could pay you to complain about life in general. Did you know the injury helpine attorney you are advertising is a scam? did you know that girl with the head set on her head is an actor and not really the person taking your call?
     did you know she bankrupted a black sport coat company? Girlscout, go sell some cookies. your a riot.

246. Comment by eaglescout | January 3rd, 2009

     Hi Eric,

     You get an F- for your failed fabrication.

     girlscout,
     you really think droobli only has 50-60 promoters?
     I put in over 60 in the last 3 weeks with over 84 customers and made over 11k.
     what are you talking about?

     GroobLi’s traffic has stayed about the same (and worsened) since October of 2008.

     It’s really interesting that fewer people are visiting GroobLi since you sold your 60 licenses.

     there are over 3k promoters (associates) in the US now in about 3 months ish.

     Do you have any statistics to back this assertion?

     Droobli will be dumping about 50 mil in advertising in January 2009 alone and is projected to have over 1 million customers by Feb 2009.

     Projected by who?

     So far no one has called the DA office with a formal complaint that someone did not get paid or someone did not get their item purchased or delivered.

     I didn’t claim someone had. However, GroobLi is tiny, and most people feel guilty and are too embarrassed about getting involved with GroobLi in the first place.

     Why dont you get on a plane next weekend and meet me in Arizona to stand in front of the warehouse that was created in this big elaborate SCAM you speak of

     Because GroobLi’s “big warehouse” is a small religious facility called Harvest International, run by pastors David and Linda Cross.

     Perfect place to outsource a cult, don’t you think?

247. Comment by Unrelated | January 3rd, 2009

     A bunch of donkeys is called a herd.

     A bunch of birds is called a flock.

     A bunch of suckers is called GroobLi Associates.

248. Comment by Gene | January 3rd, 2009

     girlscout,

     So six generations. Thanks. But you really don’t get it. LOL
     Really though I earn off of my own generated customers and the next 5 generations that are out of my hands. Good enough?

249. Comment by Gene | January 3rd, 2009

     Oh and thanks for making this blog available.
     And so you agree now we really have no serious compitition with our reverse auctions? And you say things have slowed down with the company through the holidays. Now if you were in the know you would understand that this usually happens with any new venture at this time of year but usually picks up in January. Let’s see I sure hope it does. I’d like to help set up a lot of folks to help them make a lot of money and I don’t care where they store the products as long as we keep getting them in a timely fashion. My son is having a lot of fun with the nice scooter he got. We got it just over a weekend and in time for the holiday. I will have to put up a picture of him with it and the box with the company label on it. I think I will. Yes check my website just click name. I don’t have it up yet but keep watching.

250. Comment by eaglescout | January 3rd, 2009

     You are welcome, Gene. Do you have a back-up plan, in case GroobLi doesn’t work out?

251. Comment by Name | January 4th, 2009

     You know I can understand why someone would shy away from Internet offers because nobody wants to get scammed. I sure don’t. We are not promoting any secret formulas or money for nothing not downloading any software to make money. If that’s what you want there’s plenty of that around and more power to you. This company just provides a way to offer products from possibly around the world that customers want and use anyway. You don’t have to stock these products or ship them. You have credits that your customers will come and buy themselves at their own site to use your auction site. Hands free for you once you set up your customer base. Not a bad plan. If you want a stable income that could develop into more than a part time business I don’t know what else you could do but this company. You get two websites. One is your auction site and the other is your business site with offers training advertising banners such as you’d see on my easy website I made for just advertising my business. I could help you with that too. It’s very inexpensive. Just click on Name and you’re there. If you want someone to work with that’s level headed then here I am. As I said in another post it’s going to get pretty busy this new year so let’s get you started. I get paid for what I do. Have a great 2009!

252. Comment by Visman | January 4th, 2009

     Spammed … WOW

     leadcoop@automatedpriority.com
     Sent: Thu 2008/12/25 17:02
     Our aim is simple: to be the most powerful home business for all people.
     http://leadcoop.automatedpriority.com/………………..

     After you review the intro video, make sure you do not skip the continue feature.
     We have loads of info to show you.

     Thank you

     Our aim is simple: to be the most powerful home business for all people.

     ______________________________________________________________________

     And another one …

     dsf@automatedgenerate.com
     Sent: Mon 2008/12/29 09:24

     Hi XXXXXX,

     If I offered you a step-by-step treasure map that gave you the exact steps youd need to follow to make an extra $1,000 $2,000 or even $10,000 per week on the Internet Would you take it?

     This is precisely what the iDrooblicate marketing system gives you!

     iDrooblicate is a POWERFUL, PROVEN, step-by-step system that thousands of people just like you have followed to start their own moneymaking Internet businesses.

     Far from being just another online auction site, Droobli is a unique online auction website where every time a shopper simply checks the price of one of the items, YOU GET PAID!

     And with the iDrooblicate turnkey system, youll receive:

     ==> Your very own Internet business that YOU own, that you can work as little or as often as you like, and that youll be PROUD to share with your friends and family

     ==> ALL of the brand new, brand name products, like iPods, DVD players, and perfume, that would essentially sell themselves

     ==> EXPOSURE to an online marketplace of MILLIONS of credit card-in-hand buyers

     ==> ALL of the training and support you needed so that youd be earning money as quickly as possible while working just few hours per week from home

     So your success as an Internet entrepreneur will be virtually guaranteed!

     If you didnt get a chance to watch the full presentation video on this truly incredible opportunity yet, I invite you to click on the link below to watch it now:
     http://.datagoals.net?u=2

     Or if you have any questions, or youre ready to get started, click on the link below now for the next step:

     Thanks for your interest!

     Never showed any interest whatsoever …

     The senders details are listed below. They have indicated that you have opted in for more information through their site or one of their partner sites.

     To be removed from this users list or to notify us that this was unsolicited please see the link below.

     Droobli System Followup
     PO Box 7361 – 101719 San Francisco, CA 94120-7361

     http://dsf.automatedgenerate.com/rm/………………...

     ____________________________________________________________________________

     Now who in the world would think for one single second I will invest without investigating first, and shaking hands? Eyebolling it is called I believe?

     Only a person underestimating ones intelligence for sure. Do business with such? Selling me a licence to licence me to sell another licence? Thats no business. Rather it is painting a picture of a business on the front page but on page two it screams “glorified salesman” for someones twisted clever minipulation.

     Why would I furthermore pay to give someone else a discount?

     What stops anyone for this matter to start his or her own …

     Regards from a sunny Pretoria …
     Visman

253. Comment by Tizzle | January 5th, 2009

     Ok, so if a product cost $600 in a zero bid, I have to pay .80 to drop the price by .25? Does that mean a product that starts out costing $600 has to be bidded on 2400 times before the final price gets to 0? If so, that means not only did Droobli makde money off of it’s associates in the initial offering of the chips, but they also made money a second time when the product finally sells. 2400 x .80 = $1,920. So, Droobli really has no cost in it at all, just profit. Reason being, 1920 – 600 = $1,320. This represents what Droobli makes off a $600 product. Somebody please tell I’m wrong…

254. Comment by Tizzle | January 5th, 2009

     …and if I am not, how much of this money gets to the associate? Sorry if this was covered earlier. I tried going to the site and clicking the “opportuntiy” button. But it does not help. As a matter of fact if I am to pay this kind of money to join, I’d like to see the compensation plan posted on the site somewhere. The only thing that truly screams shady is the fact that you can’t see what the current price is. Also, there is no real verification of how many clicks are being entered. If they could figure that out, they could be on to something big.

255. Comment by Visman | January 5th, 2009

     Hi Tizzle

     To understand, you have to read all the posts on this site and follow the links. There are variuos other sites dealing with Droobli, some extremely blatant against Droobli calling it a scam. This site however covers the most information even though it is not as blatant.

     In a very short summary, no person, nor any business has to stand back when bad publicity blows in its neck. However Jenson has been accused of bankrupting various companies, the links are provided in this blog to prove same, and so has Droobli been ripped apart. Neither has done anything to rebut these accusations other than denying same verbally (in writing on the internet) without any solid proof. Neither has taken any legal steps to remedy the situation. Obviously it is hurting the business and the person. That in itself calls for suspicions big time.

     That in itself furthermore calls for DISHONESTY, and how in the world will it be possible for anyone to measure the so called clicks? You will never be able to tell. Neither will you have full control over your so called business, other than selling licences. Then it is no business other than paying someone else for the opportunity to market their business and receive a commission on same = salesman, nothing else.
     Calling it a business is hyped up emotional glorification. Everybody wants somehow to have control over their destination. See the spam I received. They sell a way to get rich without any solid proof that same be sustainable.

     Discount is based on luck, no business is based on luck other than sound honest hard work.

     1. IGROOBLICATE is a POWERFUL, PROVEN, step-by-step system that thousands of people just like you have followed to start their own moneymaking Internet businesses.

     Take note … IGROOBLICATE!!! They are selling licences to sell licences.

     Now I suggest you read the blog word for word and the maths involved.

     Regards
     Visman

256. Comment by Tizzle | January 6th, 2009

     Thanks Visman for your insight.

257. Comment by Tizzle | January 6th, 2009

     The zero auction appears to be like the lottery.
     However, I do like the concept of the first one.
     That is by far the best option it seems. However, the selection is kind of weak. is this site going to expand?
     Finally I still cant see the commission break down.

258. Comment by Tizzle | January 6th, 2009

     eaglescout seems to be a very intelligent man.
     I can’t tell who is right, but his arguments are pretty good.
     I wish someone for droobli can answer his questions. It would help tremendously. Can someone from Droobli answer them so that they are factual instead of guesses?

259. Comment by Name | January 6th, 2009

     I guess you might call the zero auction a lottery. What’s the biggy? As promised I put a picture up with that scooter that I got from the company on my site with two of my boys. I used the express auction. We got it over the weekend. See for yourself and there is a good link about the compensation plan. It’s a real simple plan. This is a great family business. Just click on Name. Oh and Robbie they tell me you’re a very intelligent man and I don’t doubt that.

260. Comment by Visman | January 6th, 2009

     Pleasure Tizzle

     You will note that I have a huge problem with them not rebutting the accusations for quite awhile now. That does not mean having to get into heated arguments. Nobody can argue solid proof, and that is not provided.

     Not bringing religion into this, just an interesting similarity as I see it (read my older posts) been made on a totally different issue and level.

     Leadership: “Psychic Vampires” IN THE LEADERSHIP?
     http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Freemasonry/freemasonry_exposed.htm
     Replace Psychic with money …
     “the occult, we used to talk about psychic vampires—people who just seemed to suck the life out of a person. Of course, black magicians excel in this. They leave people feeling drained. What most people don’t realize is that an organization can function in much the same way.
     The Lodge functions like a spiritual sponge in many ways. Think of all the millions of man hours (name) put into their lodge work: memorizing the degree material, attendance at meetings, extracurricular lodge activities (dinners, banquets, funerals, picnics). Those (name) who are Christians pour hours of time and energy into the lodge, and it just laps it up and begs for more.”

     1. People who just seemed to suck the life out of a person. Of course, black magicians excel in this
     2. The Lodge functions like a spiritual (financial) sponge in many ways.
     3. What most people don’t realize is that an organization can function in much the same way.
     4. Those (name) who are Christians pour hours of time and energy into the lodge, and it just laps it up and begs for more.”
     Begs for more … until one no more can?
     Regards
     Visman

261. Comment by Tizzle | January 8th, 2009

     Ok, so I went on the site looking to make a purchase.
     The item I was going to purchase is called The Wine Enthusist 16. Droobli has it on the site for $248.
     I went to the wine company’s website and it was listed at $195 but on sale for $100. Droobli start off price is $248. So if I am correct you would have to click the Droobli auction button at 212 times before getting the Droobli price even to the regular price. Does this makes sense?

262. Comment by Visman | January 8th, 2009

     80c, 80c, 80c …… and so it goes on, one huge clicking internet community. Somebody is making money and for sure it is not the clicker. Discount 25c can never be interpreted as profit. more specically if one pays for his / her own discount from credits bought!

     If I want? I want now, and not pay to buy either, neither wait for Tizzle, or whoever to also click a few clicks …

     Regards
     Visman

263. Comment by solly | January 8th, 2009

     Greetings everyone,

     I think we can all see that the idea of a reverse aution is an intriguing idea. When you combine the reverse aution idea with the idea of soliciting every major manufacturer to sell its products on a reverse auction on line global sales portal, the prospect of bargain prices comes into view; if only initially. If we pursue the reverse auction Global Portal we may create a major shift in the way we and our children will live and work….similar to the impact that pcb”s and computers have had on our society. The global portal reminds me of a video I saw about wall mart on netflix, where wall mart would open a wall mart store in a colorful little town whose streets were lined with friendly little shops only to find 6 months down the road that these friendly little streets now looked like a ghost town.
     These little colorful towns unwittinly lost their home town feel for a better price. While we may get a better price on goods we purchase on ta reverse auction /global portal, it would be prudent to spend equal time considering what we have to lose as a community…are we inviting drastic consequences for our already fractured sense of community..lets discuss?

264. Comment by eaglescout | January 8th, 2009

     Hi Solly,

     The “Reverse Auctions” in GroobLi are not reverse auctions.

265. Comment by Visman | January 9th, 2009

     Hi Solly

     A different perspective you have?

     It comes down to decisions made by us. My daughter is 8 years old. She has all the electronic games, videos, dvd’s …. name them.

     One thing she will not trade, is time with her dad playing outside with the feel of grass between ones toes. The physical part. Then all those expensive games and the likes are totally forgotten. Like all woman she loves the shops. LOL! But looking around me I hear many a parent stating how clever their kids are with computers and electronic games. Looking at them however, the family time, social time in direct contact with others that has been compromised, some in a lesser degree than others, but it has been compromised, has brought us where we are today. The computer takes the place of another family member in the house or is likened in status of another family member. That possible? Really? On line chat site, dating sites … again name … them has to a very large extent compromised quality time with friends and family. Now shopping becomes that easy as well. Delivered to your doorstep.

     The electronic world is a very lonely world altogether in more ways than one, and can maybe be likened on to a bad habit becoming a way of life? Possible? I know houses where kids spend most of their time in the room with the computer and games which in turn become the nannies for kids to keep them busy and off the streets.

     Luckily, SA still have a lot of physical activity, but the question remains, what impact the electronic age will have on that.

     But that is mostly on the negative side. The positive is also the doors being opened. I sit in one part of the world and communicate with someone else way off in another part of the world. I can go shopping wherever I wish, whenever I wish. Same has its benefits too. Furthermore, shops in the malls are more and more competing with online shops, and even has its own online shops with delivery to your doorstep at no extra cost. In that sense it even be great. Leaves more time to spend at home with family and friends. But is that time used for that purpose? If not, what is the energy spent on? More time to surf the internet?

     The balance can so easily be lost, and with reference to your remark ‘fractured sense of community” has been lost in a big way.

     The world is becoming lonely which in turn leads to its own disasters and personal emotional, mental and physical problems. Take a look around, read the news, and one can understand the influence over time without that direct human contact.

     It all comes back to decisions. Yours, your neighbours, mine … finding the lost laughter of a child, a family member, a friend or just someone one cracks a joke with in the pick & pay …. that lost feeling of belonging due to the computer taking so much time that should have been ………………. times that are not meant for holidays only, but every day!

     Regards
     Visman

266. Comment by solly | January 9th, 2009

     Hi eaglescout and Visman,

     Eaglescout, I agree. I had not considerd the idea of a reverse auction within a global portal community until I heard of …Visman you are hitting the nail on the head. My concern the idea a of reverse auction in conjunction with global portal is now before many people. It would have to be restructured but if it were, it could be devastatingly profitable and detrimental to our sense of communitythe remaining vestiages of community as we know it. The online market place will continue to expand. The question from my point is how quick is to quicis expanding

267. Comment by solly | January 9th, 2009

     Hi Fellas,

     scratch post # 266. I must have hit the send prematurely..i will finish and send shortly.

     thanks,

     Solly

268. Comment by solly | January 9th, 2009

     Hi eaglescout and Visman,

     Eaglescout, I agree. I had not considerd the idea of a reverse auction within a global portal community until I heard of Droobli. If a group of well intentioned ethical investors get hold of the idea they could change the fabric of our society. maybe that would be good maybe not? Visman you are hitting the nail on the head. I think the mall merchants rent overhead will eventually take them out of game though. Will the malls close, maybe?, where will the kids go?. The question is can a legitimate reverse aution be structured where through an equitable look-see fee the price of a standard product can be lowered 30%-40%-50%? maybe so? The point is eagle scout you have got a lot of people thinking. I am just starting to think of these things now. Lets hope in 100 years the daily newspaper does not trace a bleak and joyless community landscape back to your good will efforts with a headline that reads, It has been discovered that our bleak sense of community can be traced back to a fellow named eaglescout who ushered in The Global Gateway with the help of Solly and Visman.

     Solly

269. Comment by Robbie | January 9th, 2009

     “Oh and Robbie they tell me you’re a very intelligent man and I don’t doubt that.”

     Who are ‘they,’ you comedian? Just because you and the rest of the Droobli Bunch use multiple nicks doesn’t mean the rest of the world is in need of resorting to this tactic. Eaglescout has addressed so many different issues under his original nick, it would make no sense whatsoever for him to do this out of a sudden. And if he did, I’m pretty sure he would make it more convincing and less easy to see through than you.
     I’m still following this discussion and will do so until the inevitable collapse of Droobli (if something that isn’t even one story high can collaps at all…it’ll probably just fade into oblivion).

270. Comment by Visman | January 9th, 2009

     For one. Droobli is a matter of time. Unfortunately digging its very own grave. It seems to walk the same road so many other schemes, relying on in financial trouble / prospective to be in trouble people out there who would beg, borrow and even steel to survive.

     If I offered you a step-by-step treasure map that gave you the exact steps youd need to follow to make an extra $1,000 $2,000 or even $10,000 per week on the Internet Would you take it?
     This is precisely what the iDrooblicate marketing system gives you!
     iDrooblicate is a POWERFUL, PROVEN, step-by-step system that thousands of people just like you have followed to start their OWN MONEYMAKING Internet businesses.
     ==> Your VERY OWN Internet business that YOU OWN, that you can work as little or as often as you like, and that youll be PROUD to SHARE WITH YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY
     So your success as an Internet entrepreneur will be virtually guaranteed!

     ROAD TO RICHES, FINANCIAL FREEDOM … GUARANTEED? Creating hope and diverting honest people with little knowledge about business with hints of a better life. But you stay dependant on the initiators of the so called business. The profits made belong to the initiators. The so called associates only get a marginal commission, and not to missed point, the opportunity to buy at a discount. Now who would want to purchase only goods if they can purchase money making at a discount? It comes back to buying a licence to sell a licence. Physical products are therefore not the main stream of income, but selling a licence to give you money to buy from them / yourself? WOW. Who will sell a part of his business to someone he does not know? You have not bought a business; neither did any associate set up his / her own business. It is made to sound like a business, but the real matter for a business that identifies it as a business is not there.

     “Your VERY OWN Internet business” … virtually guaranteed? Virtually have more than meaning that can be read into it. Depends on the reader’s mindset at that point in time he or she reads it and the bait that drew the reader. Can you spot the hook hidden in the attractive bait that made you look a second time at the possibility?

     Is there therefore a way that Droobli can use to get you to part with your money, or get you to go borrow, beg or steel to get the money into their bank accounts? Surely, they push all the right buttons.

     They do not have to pay you a salary, only commission on your sales; therefore have no obligations to you. The only obligations is to themselves via a numbers game.

     The bait is on the hook, the line has been casted in and there are many fish in the sea. One will take a bite, and so will many others. Who have been dished up at yesterday’s lunch, this morning’s breakfast?

     Regards
     Visman

271. Comment by Steen Isdahl | January 10th, 2009

     Hi all

     I think it’s valid to make a question on behalf on consumers, and make a question blog on the motives behind the website.
     I actually think that this is neglected to often by bloggers, due to the flaming that comes from guys with interest in the business model.
     WE have just seems major scams in US on Wallstreet and also in my small country Denmark by a Mr Stein Bagger from IT-factory. And looking back, several bloggers did raised questions like these in the attached articles in the top, and that is sound for every new business model and you as an consumer.

     So please give the credit to the dudes that are securing customers, and on the other hand – if any of the flamers have won a bid and been happy about it – then stand out, show that the model works and the website. I think that it’s nice, that we have a new model of trade, and if traders want to buy clicks, and is doing it more than once, then the value is proven (get this on record from the company – mr. Jensen). Show that you had a fun and fair trade – I think at least, as a flamer, that you should have bought some clicks to prove yourself positive .. please show your full name.

     But if the articles numbers are true;
     1) it’s insiders that wins
     Out of 72 prices – 25
     tproia 4
     lindapc 3
     robbrandimickey 3
     wcowles 3
     Entrepreneur 2
     Funlovers 2
     Gteam2max 2
     mvmeach 2
     papajeanne 2
     ron27 2
     Then there is something more to this than luck

     2)That the shipping cost is the hidden fee

     Then I think – that a storm of the 65 % of winners not coming from the insiders – should start screaming in the press. They would at Ebay!!
     If Droobli makes a billion in revenue. 1.000.000 and the average trade is 1000$ then we have a 1000 trades, then 650 trades should be won by outsiders – we need their voices .. have anybody heard these. .. I haven’t, should be easy to google!! But none came up.

     So as I see it – thanks for this blog, keep asking questions, and flamers – be fair, and you have not been that …

     Lets keep an eye on these guys, and looking forward to hear why and when they succeed..

     Just to clearify things
     NAPLES, FL, July 26, 2008 – Discount Marketing Corp and Alfred Luckerbauer, the US representatives for GroobLi Network, announced today that GroobLi President and CEO, Preben Westergaard, has stepped down and handed the reins over to Founder, Bobby Jensen. Mr. Westergaard will remain with the company in a consultant capacity.

     Then it’s an EU company and not an US company!
     Based in
     GroobLi UK Ltd.
     Valley Farm Cottage
     Parkside Road
     Adel, Leeds
     LS16 8EZ
     United Kingdom

     But you are not sure, due to the lack in investor material on their website. This should be improved, and this blog could be closed or televised.

     Steen

272. Comment by Robbie | January 10th, 2009

     “Then I think – that a storm of the 65 % of winners not coming from the insiders – should start screaming in the press.”

     Well, that’s the whole point: No one is screaming in the press, because there is hardly anyone to scream and hardly anything to scream about. Here in Germany you won’t find anything on Droobli in the press and very few sites covering Droobli on the Internet (not counting the sites of Droobli representatives). There are some old and rather short discussions on some message boards, as well as an old, short article from a respected e-commerce web site. This article is titled “Beware of Droobli!” Otherwise, you won’t find much more.

     “Then there is something more to this than luck”

     Yes, the ‘auctions’ are probably faked to make the whole site look busy. In any case they would be more believable to me, if the ‘bids’ were revealed after the ‘auction’ (see Ebay).
     Btw, where do you have these stats from? I just checked us.droobli.com and there are some other names coming up even more often than 4 times.

     The UK address doesn’t mean the company is based in the UK. They’re based in Berlin, but it is way cheaper to found a Ltd. Company in the UK than in Germany, and my guess is that this is the only reason for the UK address.

273. Comment by Visman | January 10th, 2009

     http://www.truveo.com/Do-u-Droobli-Best-Home-Business-Online-Shopping/id/1795243634

     18 Thousand Associates?
     1.4 Mil customers?

     Surely do not see that numbers on Droobli sites?

     Regards
     Visman

274. Comment by Visman | January 10th, 2009

     Correction … 14 thousand
     1.2 Mil
     respectively

275. Comment by A Scam is A Scam Period | January 12th, 2009

     maybe some people don’t realize is that you buy credits to participate in the so called “auction”… hello that money is spent even if you use the credit or not to bid on the reverse auction.

     What if you decided to buy a $1000 dollar worth of credits, you are not necesarily going to get a $1000 worth of products.

     Just go buy a lottery ticket. You would be better off.

     In any case, Droobli may not be a scam after all. Anyways, the only people who will get scammed are those who participate in it. I am just weary of anything MLM because people get victimized.

276. Comment by Visman | January 12th, 2009

     With …

     Correction … 14 thousand Associates
     1.2 Mil Customers

     One should see much more movement on the auction sites, which is not happening. In any event, Droobli could to this day not prove this many associates, nor customers on a world wide basis, let alone in Europe.

     Neither is the information removed which is misleading = dishonesty alowing it to continue running. Ruthless as to who walks into the trap, whose money (tonights food on the table) lands in their pockets. There will always be takers, somebody who grabs at every little straw to survive / Riches.

     Define a business, an associate, partner and so forth with their respective roles, ownership …. this is not how the cookie crumbles.

     MLM in its very essence … is it your own business? Why are they for ever looking for more “business owners”. What percentages that buy in stays on? It becomes, and I do know people associating with MLM’s that is in the market place for many years now. They have however become that “business”. It has become their god. I have been to some motivational meetings, and wow, when those people get on stage it is vibrant, a living thing. All that still needs to happen is for the people to fall on their knees in praise and worship.

     Give to them, great marketing skills and consepts. But one becomes becomes fully dependant on the real owners that brought this “riches”. They have changed. They have become the very image of the actual owners. That in itself turned me down big time. For what I could see and understand they lost themselves to those “gods” on stage that are busy saving the world. They leave more desparate for financial freedoms behind that they promised step by step instructions as what they leave riches behind while they fill there suitcases. Define a sponser … because that is what they call themselves at first before they become your upline (boss). If they sponser you into the bsuiness, why must you pay to buy in?

     If one now look at this from various perspectives, what is truly happening? In the very inner of the man / woman?

     Blood sweat and tears went into my own business with lots praying, but it belongs to me! Is my own brain child and delivers a service essential to true business owners. As a one man business I take care of nearly 10000 employees for business owners who in turn takes care of there true nich, ie, the products they manufacture.

     It grows on you, becomes you, not you onto it becoming it. It does not become your master, your “god”. That is freedom, true financial freedom created by yourself, managed by nobody but your self, not a glorified salesman for somebody elses brain child.

     I just hate it to see the sparkle dissapear from the eyes of people that I know when the dissapointments hit home.

     I can write a book on what I have experienced after 18 years in the police force (now in my own business for the pat six years), and still seeing the devistating effects of ruthless marketing which most rely on.

     In the end, is it worth it? When one looks at the double tracks behind it? I do not think so, and do not want to be a part of it.

     And I stand by that.
     Visman

277. Comment by Name | January 13th, 2009

     A picture is worth a 1,000 words isn’t it?

278. Comment by Visman | January 16th, 2009

     True … the picture however is only what you see from the outside. The bigger picture is on the inside, that needs more than what the eye can see.

     But when the outside fades away … the picture is then worth?

279. Comment by solly | January 16th, 2009

     Hi Eaglescout,

     I recently saw a post about drooblis’ AZ warehouse. I thought the post was on your site, but I may be mistaken. The post showed the AZ. warehouse being located at a church. There were even pics of the pastor. A reliable source informed me that this is not the case and said, “While the warehouse is small,3-5k it is not located on or near a church. Did I see this post about the church on your site?

     With all this negative talk about Drooblis business model, which is reasonably justified at this time, I was wondering if Drooblis has contacted you personally. (email, attorney, formal letter or phone). If yes, what did they have to say.

     Solly

280. Comment by eaglescout | January 17th, 2009

     Hi Solly,

     I have not been contacted by GroobLi at all. I also don’t think your source is reliable, because the GroobLi warehouse address is listed in GroobLi “press releases”.

     To the best of my knowledge GroobLi’s “warehouse” is a religious facility, and the owners are looking to sell it.

     If your source was reliable, why didn’t they give you the “real” warehouse address? It’s not like GroobLi has anything to hide, right?

281. Comment by dream team | January 18th, 2009

     We have toured the facility in Phoenix, it is legit, and not a church. Nice try girlscout.

282. Comment by dream team | January 18th, 2009

     The address is on every package you recieve from a purchase made on the Droobli site. The logistics center is real, the mangager confirmed it was very busy during Xmas and also confirmed they just opened up in October 2008. He did not know what Droobli was exactly so when I explaied it to him he was very excited. I have his name and number and he and his fufillment center company are very solid. It is not a church like Girlscout indicated in previous posts. Very very easy to prove and odd girlscout would make a claim himself without doing his/her homework. lol.

283. Comment by dream team | January 18th, 2009

     the beauty of a “spin” is maybe [possible copyright violation] Droobli is nothing more than an indian burial ground. [copyright violation] Jensen bankrupted a company when he created a few companies [copyright violation] which is not normal for most MLM, I dont really see this as MLM because of the huge percentage of peeps on the site that dont make a dime, [copyright violation] this is a no brainer [copyright violation] with a team of leaders that [...] plan on losing and a track record to back it up. Thanks for letting me post [...] and good luck [...].

284. Comment by solly | January 18th, 2009

     Hi Eaglescout,

     Point taken. I did not think to ask my source for the address. I will ask for the address and get back to you.
     I simply wanted to know if a warehouse in fact existed, and if so what size and was it piggy backing on a religious facilities site. I wanted to see if a large or small investment had been made by Droobli. It appears to be a small investment that would be in line with a small distribution company.

     Regards,

     Solly

     P.S. Did I see the pictures of the pastor and the church on spin factor or somewhere else?

285. Comment by eaglescout | January 20th, 2009

     Hi solly,

     Look up Linda Cross and GroobLi.

286. Pingback by How to identify a scam » The Truth @ The Spin Factor | January 20th, 2009

     [...] Sounds a lot like GroobLi’s founders. [...]

287. Comment by Robbie | January 20th, 2009

     I looked up Linda Cross and Droobli:

     http://www.indroobli.org/forum/topic/show?id=2347879%3ATopic%3A44

     “Droobli has already proven themselves in Germany and Europe, creating more customers than Ebay in Germany!”

     Yeah, and then you woke up. How shameless can a lie be? The customer numbers for Ebay and Droobli are so far away from each other, they can’t even be compared. This statement by Linda is so bold, it actually had me ROTFLMOA.

288. Comment by Visman | January 21st, 2009

     Only one question

     Why does Droobli not rebut this, and have the site removed via a law suite?

     Only reason can be, since these comments come a long way through 2008.

     They can not, and is playing it to the very end, making every buck they can from it while the still can, and then move on to the next scheme.

     The defenders will always be there, I call them the sponsers filling the pockets and fighting their fights for them, while they remain silent!

     Silence is also an answer, acknowledgement of guilt, or otherwise, because it makes people doubt, and for those that invested, sold to family and friends, somebody they know with great promise, clinging to the financial promises they received and made, the hope that the right answer will come, but it has been coming a long time now, yet to be seen.

     As a business man myself, I would have made my pound of flesh from this site alone and then used same to show my integrity above the remarks published and turned it into an advertising for my business.

     Too long overdue by Droobli …

289. Comment by Gogetem | January 21st, 2009

     eaglescout take a look at this. I don’t know if you have seen it already, I have not read all the posts here. I saw the link like this.

     10-13-08
     Read the Droobli Statement from Bobby Jensen.

     http://www.smartwinshop.com/GroobLi%20Statement.html

290. Comment by Me again | January 21st, 2009

     Why doesn’t the company stop this blog. Why it’s good advertising for the company. Anyone with a right mind can see the blog hasn’t a real leg to stand on. There’s nothing to rebut that hasn’t been addressed here already and the blog is just trying to get attention to advertise their scams. Remember a blog is just that. A blog!

291. Comment by Visman | January 22nd, 2009

     How one can read good advertising in this is spectacularly far beyond imagination. It is one of the oldest tricks in the book to make such comments by con artists. I’m 48 …

     The main reason for me being here is because they have spammed me in South Africa and I do not take spamming lightly, and I referred others also to this site via email. It’s for them to decide, but do you know how fast email travels?

     I have followed and read every single comment and link provided before doing same. I’d love to see the sales made in SA since there is no local provider / storefront / warehouse. The MLM’s operating locally have been here for many years, and they have a strong foothold.

     Furthermore, SA has been a dumping ground for many a scam, but that has come to an end, with people being extremely cautious about. You will get the buyers, those always be there, BUT, they will not be enough.

     Question now remains, how will they do this? By selling licenses to sell licences since imports is a costly affair providing no discounts?

     Selling licences locally to sell licenses will not be that easy?

     Last note, as an ex policeman I am still in the legal arena from where I chair (the judge in other words) arbitration and investigation enquiries with subsequent rulings.

     Now how good has this advertising here been for Droobli? It’s bad for business and no reputable business person that cares about the long term sustainability of his / her business will allow same to continue for such a prolonged period.

     It’s a civil matter; therefore a judgement can be made on a balance of probabilities.

     Although not official, but considering the evidence presented with the respondent not rebutting same with solid proof, and with the vague attempts by Droobli to rebut without proof, if this has to presented before a chairperson, at this point in time the chairperson will have no choice but to declare Droobli a SCAM.

     Droobli therefore at this point in time remains in debt to its clients / associates too prove it is not a scam, and not using the current world economic crisis with its subsequent emotional issues around job losses to take last pennies out of needy pockets to create their own wealth.

     Eaglescout has done to this point a great investigation and I remember reading the challenging response to a possible law suit by Droobli to which Droobli has not reacted!! A while back!!

     In other words, I give you a bloody nose by wringing your nose continually and by your silence you allow me to continue for an undefined period? Will you?

     Now what?

292. Comment by Me again | January 22nd, 2009

     Find everything you can on my site, your questions will be answered. This is an ongoing business which started in Germany in 2003 and is still here. Now in the US operating. Now what do you say about that? For the record I was an MP in the US Marine Corp during Vietnam. I know a bit about law. You have no case. We don’t want your last pennies. We offer a business and in any business there is loss or profit. If you can’t afford the venture stay out but don’t discourage good business minded folk.

293. Comment by George | January 22nd, 2009

     I haven’t read through the hundreds of comments, but I just found out about this GroobLi.com, and I’m confused as to why anyone would use it. If you do the math of, say, one of the products I saw mentioned as a successful auction:

     $500 (starting bid), $179.25 (sold for).

     $500 – $179.25 = $320.75 worth of “clicking”, @ $0.25 per click = 1283 clicks @ $0.80 per click = $1,026.40 + $179.25 (selling price) = $1205.65 total sale money for a $500 product.

     That equals over $700 in profit on that item alone, assuming they got it for the original selling price. This screams scam, I don’t doubt that the buyer ends up with the product for that price, but that means that over a thousand people on that item alone lost money.

294. Comment by Me again | January 22nd, 2009

     Lost money? Or money to be made? Some people just like screaming. You pay for the option to purchase the product. They did their shopping. Give me a break! How much gas do you spend when you go shopping? Do you always come home with what you wanted? If not, how can you justify going out of your house? You might be involved in a scam.
     You did the MATH! You do see there is money to be made. When you pay good money to go to watch a movie, do you come get something worthwhile? Entertainment, right? Well thus the auctions. Nobody will force you to do the auctions. You can save most likely at any given bid and can buy but most take the chance at a better price. If you don’t like auctions just buy at the shop once they get set up. You don’t have to do the auctions then. Here we have it. A ground floor opportunity… Lots of business to do and lots of money to be made. Nobody knows what the price is unless they make a bid of 80 cents. You see the price and decide if you want it.
     Someone else comes along and they have no idea what the price is so they take a shot at it, make a bid of 80 cents to see the price and maybe they buy, maybe not. The mystery of it all is inviting. It’s not like one person is going to spend $1,026.40 to by one product. I just placed a bid on the $5,000 walmart gift card and if I wanted to buy I could have save $2200 or so.

295. Comment by Visman | January 22nd, 2009

     I wanted to say there are no pills for stupidity, but that would be nasty. Would it not?

     My discounted apology for pondering the thought!

296. Comment by Visman | January 23rd, 2009

     Sorry, I forgot to give the terms …

     It will cost you 80c for a 25c discount. The 80c is payable upfront to me, and then you can have your 25c discount if you still want to buy after I showed you the price!

     Regards
     Were not the ATeam for no reason!

297. Comment by Me again | January 23rd, 2009

     I had an extended post which you didn’t alow. What a scam here.

298. Comment by Me again | January 23rd, 2009

     You allowed that hummmm

299. Comment by Me again | January 23rd, 2009

     Let’s try a short one. Is there any vitamins for brains? No, it will cost you 80 cents to bid. In order to see the current price. Yes 25 cents of that price goes to lower the cost of the product and you can recoup that 25 cents if you buy the product so you would have paid 55 cents for the chance to buy at a greatly reduced price. But many others may or may not have gone before you to lower the price tremendously.

300. Comment by Me again | January 23rd, 2009

     I must say, This is a real online business. NOT only some digital eBooks or health products or weight loss or whatever. We’ll have all the products you could see on eBay and even brand new automobiles coming on the auctions where the price will go down. Yes that’s right! Our prices go down not up. This is something you can do right from home. This is serious competition for any other auctions or stores/shops. It’s like having your own I call it d-bay from home. It’s unique. The company will be drawing millions of customers by the 3 main auctions we have which are the Express the Unique bid and the Zero auction. These ultimately bring customers to our store/shop and market place. At the shop you can buy without an auction. Just like any other online store. But mind you this is still rolling out and you can be some of the first to get in.

     And because of what we do we will have the niche that could make our licensed associates wealthy.

     You need to know it comes from Germany a tested and true business model. We’re really on the beginning stages of the staged launch here with a cutting edge company and I still don‘t know all we‘ll have. We have the experience of Germany’s model to work off of. We know it’s ups and downs and successes.

     This will be the biggest thing since eBay and you better get in now. It Works the opposite of eBay auctions, called reverse auction.

     We have three different auctions with a store/shop coming soon. In the store/shop you’ll be able to buy new products at very reasonable prices because they come directly from manufactures and if you‘re an associate you could have a thriving business.

     Now this is absolutely a new business model and people really enjoy the auctions. Customers come to you once you establish your business and customer base. Now is the time to do that. With its viral component, your customers will invite other customers and from the German model we find that they also invite on average 5 more customers and then they will and then they will, well you get the idea. We have an element of network marketing where you can benefit from other associates also.

     Have you ever thought of having a chain of department stores? Well this can be even better with much less overhead and you won’t be limited to for walls either, to house your products. In fact you don’t have to deal with products at all the company does all that for you. You can have thousands of customers coming to you and bidding on thousands of products on your site and you can also set up shops for nonprofit organizations with their own logo to help them raise funds for their purposes or just shops for any organizations. The market place is coming where one can sell their own products.

     Well here’s how the express auction works.

     Name brand top notch products are offered through our trading portal.

     We’ll use the example of auctioning a digital camera with all the fancy accessories costing $1,000.00.

     Now understand this may be happening for any new products you might see on eBay. If a product is popular it may be put up for auction.

     What happens is that one needs to register with a business associate which I am and buy credits to bid on the camera or whatever product you are looking for. Your customers can shop at the store without credits.

     Now you also have the option to be a business associate. Keep in mind that we have just launched October 4, 2008.

     One credit is worth 80 cents.

     One would pay 80 cents to make a bid or 1 credit

     Every time one bids it lowers the cost of the camera by 25 cents.

     So now the price of the camera goes down to $999.75

     What happens to the other remaining 55 cents?

     It goes into a bonus pool for the business associate, which could be you. Every time someone buys a credit or uses one you make money.

     That 25 cents kind of subsidizes the price of the camera and the seller would get that. So it goes down for the buyer and remains constant for the seller. Then the associate gets paid.

     One can choose to buy the camera at that drop in price if they wish if they see a value.

     Well you might wait for the price to go down more so you try again later.

     Now someone else gets their chance to bid on the camera and spend their 80 cent credit. Now understand you can’t see the price until you bid on the camera.

     The price now falls to $999.50, anyhow they now have their chance at buying the camera but may or may not depending on the value they see.

     Just imagine doing it yourself, when the value get’s into a comfortable range for you, you have the option to buy when the price is right. Hmm sounds like a game show!

     So the price is hidden until you use a credit. Instead of the price going up like on eBay the price in fact goes down with this company. Can you see how this works? If the price of the product goes all the way down and you spend the last credit you can get the product for that price. So conceivably the price can fall to next to nothing. Well that would be more realistic in the zero auction.

     Now the seller get’s their full price and the buyer can get a tremendous deal while the business associate can make a nice profit. Just imagine 1,000s of these auctions going on in your business.

     That’s where the real profit is going to come from. Plus you get profits from the store/shop or marketplace sales.

     I think you can see the beauty so look my site over and join me in the adventure and bring others.

301. Comment by Charlie | January 23rd, 2009

     O.K. When I signed up as a Business Associate 3 months ago I used to sound like “Me Again” I’ll tell you what “Me Again” I will send you $1000 cash today (not a joke) if you can show me ANY proof that you have made a single penny from Droobli my E-mail is drayermaui@aol.com my home # in Maui Hawaii is (808) 264-7114, I’m positive you have not made any money not one dime!

302. Comment by Charlie | January 23rd, 2009

     Furthermore, Droobli will not be around in one year in the U.S. No matter what it simply will vanish and David Jensen will retire a millionaire on a white sandy beach.

303. Comment by Me again | January 23rd, 2009

     Send me an email and we’ll see what we can do Charlie.

304. Comment by Me again | January 23rd, 2009

     I just called you Charlie and got your answering machine.

305. Comment by Me again | January 23rd, 2009

     I sent you an email also Charlie.

306. Comment by Me again | January 23rd, 2009

     Charlie I made money the first month I got in.
     It was September.

307. Comment by Me again | January 23rd, 2009

     Well you did let that go through.
     Thanks

308. Comment by Robbie | January 23rd, 2009

     I have to say this thread is becoming really sickening. Using a new alias, Droobli is obviously trying everything to rip off a few Americans, who might be desperate enough to ignore all the warning signs. The USA is a huge market, it may take some time until it runs dry of easy targets. I feel sorry for people like Charlie, I hope you didn’t lose a lot of money. But I can only advise you to be careful and to really look into a business before you make any moves. And don’t believe any success stories from other countries unless you see some real proof. Droobli has never been a success in Germany! I live here and I can assure you of this. If this so called successful German model these guys keep talking about ever existed, its only “success” must have been that Bobby Jensen managed to rip off some gullible/incautious Germans. If Droobli was a success, you could surely find lots of positive feedback on them all over the Internet. They would have been covered by some serious press. None of this is the case! I don’t see any serious press coverage in the US either. Isn’t this weird for a company who claims to be a competition to Ebay and the next big thing on the auction market? Isn’t it weird that in Germany, where Droobli is supposed to be a success, auctions are finished only sporadically and many of them are won by the same buyers, which should be highly improbable, especially for Zero Bid and Unique Bid? Taking this and all the information given by Eaglescout into consideration, is it that hard to smell a rat?

309. Comment by Charlie | January 23rd, 2009

     Thank You Eaglescout! I think we’re on to something. Aloha ” Me Again” I recieved your call and have phoned your # 4 times witthin the last two hours, show me a paycheck and a thousand dollars is yours, Mahalo.

310. Comment by chart3 | January 24th, 2009

     I’m watching an online webinar presenting the Droobli opportunity. Droobli reminds me of 2by2.net in the U.S. from several years ago, mixed in with Swoopo.com. 2by2.net got a lot of hype back from 1999 – 2001 (“fast becoming a major player in this marketplace, more features coming soon…, yada yada yada, blah blah blah”). 2by2.net was eventually shut down by the U.S. federal government through a class action lawsuit after being determined to be an illegal ponzi scheme, and many sales associates got some of their registration and membership fees back.

     As the global economny is now in recession and people are starving for jobs, more and more ripoffs like Droobli, Infinity 800, etc… will begin to pop up to take advantage of people’s desperation and uncertaintity. But hey, you guys can make your own decisions.

311. Comment by Insider | January 24th, 2009

     Lots of coments here on the oportunity and the Droobli business model. Fact of the matter is the company executives are liars with little integrity. They are not trustworthy, thats all one needs to know.

312. Comment by Charlie | January 24th, 2009

     I’m looking for ANYONE involved in Droobli that can show me a paycheck, I will send them a real live cashier’s check for $1000 send me proof my address is 3926 Mahinahina Street, Lahaina, Hawaii 96761 My Name is Charlie Drayer

313. Comment by Me again | January 24th, 2009

     Charlie,

     Wait a minute. First it was $1,000 in cash now it’s a cashier’s check. Sure the economy is bad now. It’s the best time to become an associate because once things get going you’ll be glad you were. Course you claimed that you were one. This company is starting here. No everything is not rolled out yet and this blog leads everyone to believe it is and it’s a failed venture. Well I have news for you. It isn’t. Now is the time to help build it. Charlie I don’t believe I’d get a red cent from you. You change your mind just like girlscout does all the time.Ane Robbie how do we know you are from Germany. Charlie I told you I earned my first month which was in September. It seems you like to shoot yourself in the foot and you are one for instant gratification and you can’t work hard to build a business. I mean, what is it, you tried for what two months, and because you couldn’t recruit someone it’s a scam. Please. I sent you an email and you didn’t return it. I asked you if you got anyone as an associate and are you not making any money with the company? I thought it was you that had some millionaire friends that got you started. Maybe I’m wrong there. If not ask them to produce you info on what they made off you. This can be a very hard business to do with all the people screaming scam here without a cause. In fact I heard of this blog right away from a guy that I was trying to recruit needless to say he was scared away. I am convinced this company will go places. If I made any money or not what’s the difference to you? I have signed up associates and I do have customers. Do you? If you were a successful associate you’d know that they don’t issue checks, they do wire transfers. You think I am giving you any information you’re nuts. Here you are if you really got into the company you are just throwing your money away and chasing any potential customers like you have leporsy or something. All you guys are doing is trying to destroy a great business.

314. Comment by E | January 25th, 2009

     A number of posts ago, the discussion focused on the legality (or lack thereof) of Droobli’s activities in various states. Since Droobli is marketing nationwide, are they making the assertion that their activities are legal in every state?

     I was reviewing the California Penal Code and it sounds a lot like the Zero Bid auction meets the definition of a ‘lottery’ (which is illegal in California). Here is the wording of California Penal Code 319:

     A lottery is any scheme for the disposal or distribution of property by chance, among persons who have paid or promised to pay any valuable consideration for the chance of obtaining such property or a portion of it, or for any share or any interest in such property, upon any agreement, understanding, or expectation that it is to be distributed or disposed of by lot or chance, whether called a lottery, raffle, or gift enterprise, or by whatever name the same may be known.

     The elements here are:

     a) the distribution of property by chance (which is met since no one who is bidding on it is guaranteed to win).
     b) among persons who have paid valuable consideration for the chance to obtain such property ($.80 per “chance”).
     c) upon the agreement, understanding or expectation that it is to be distributed by chance (this is evident).
     d) whether called a lottery or by “whatever name” (Zero Bid).

     As such, it appears that the Zero Bid auction is a “lottery”.

     The penalties for violations (as it relates to what Droobli may be doing) seem to be found in California Penal Code 322:

     Every person who aids or assists, either by printing, writing, advertising, publishing, or otherwise in setting up, managing, or drawing any lottery, or in selling or disposing of any ticket, chance, or share therein, is guilty of a misdemeanor.

     I can see their associates could be:

     a) advertising – Droobli websites, affilliate sites, general promotion or selling of the business (auctions) to others.
     b) publishing – they are publishing the actions / lottery.
     c) selling tickets – yes (after the free ones).
     d) disposing of tickets (via the free ones?) – maybe.

     Thoughts?

315. Comment by Me again | January 25th, 2009

     Hey E you got my attention. I will have to check that out.
     Thanks.

316. Comment by Me again | January 25th, 2009

     You know I’ve been thinking about this E. We may not be able to function in California. But I’m not sure that’s the case. The company doesn’t say so. That would be a big market to lose. Now I don’t live there myself. You may not if you live in Cali be able to do the biz. But we not only have the rest of the states, Canada, South America and I’m not sure how many more markets are coming on. But I still don’t think that stops customers from buying there. At any rate there’s going to be a lot of money with this company and it’s not like any other marketing company and there isn’t another biz quite like this. This is hot and I don’t mean with the law. LOL So E I do see your concern but come on. Look past that. Where it is legal and I think it is in all 50 states, you can make a bunch. Find out from California. We get paid to recruit associates but man the money will be in the customer base which isn’t really being promoted that much yet.
     It kind of goes back to a dozen eggs. If you have a couple of bad eggs are you going to throw out the other ten? Hmmm I don’t think so. Any how the shopping portal is really where it’s at. Now there’s a chance that what they want to buy could be on auction so who are they going to come to, to shop? You can figure that out I hope. You’re not going to want to miss this. The nice thing about this company is that once you build it you won’t have to do it again and again like in typical companies. I can’t see much attrition. Get in at the highest level you can NOW!

317. Comment by Robbie | January 26th, 2009

     “Ane Robbie how do we know you are from Germany.”

     I don’t feel I have to prove it or give away any personal information. But I’m sure the owners of this site get to see my IP which indicates my location. However, since you’re not able to rebut anything I said above, I can see why you resort to questioning my location. I live in Germany, but in fact even without living here it’s pretty easy to find out that Droobli has never been a success here by using Google.de and preferably understanding some German.

318. Comment by Me again | January 26th, 2009

     OK I will entertain you. So it’s not doing much there. Why can’t it continue making 6 figure incomes for the associates here? NOW tell me that! You doubt that? And Yeah Google.de hoho. Get in today. By the way I have some German myself.

319. Comment by Me again | January 26th, 2009

     I took a look and I see a lot of activity over there advertised with the company. How in the world would you know what’s going on unless you got involved yourself? How would you know who’s in and who’s not? It’s a big Internet and we haven’t captured it all. Yet. But the jokes on me you must be working for the company.I found this interesting. Even if you can’t understand German I think one can get the idea. Looks great to me.
     http://de.sevenload.com/videos/AkcpHaq-Droobli-Network-2-0
     Oh and I got this information that Every Auction on our portal is proven by American law and is approved.
     Die Zukunft beginnt JETZT… und Du bist von Beginn an dabei!
     or
     NOW the future begins … and you are present from beginning!

320. Comment by Robbie | January 26th, 2009

     You don’t entertain me. But now you admit that Droobli is not a success in Germany. So why did you and some other Droobli associates in this thread keep writing the opposite? Because you’re not ashamed to tell lies in order to make some money? Or because someone told you that and you just buy everything you’re told hook, line and sinker?

     “Why can’t it continue making 6 figure incomes for the associates here?”

     Because for something to be continued, it must have started first. And yes, I doubt that it has. I haven’t found anything in Germany, but maybe you can show us some serious press coverage for Droobli in the US? Some credible proof of the Great American Success Story? Needless to say I’m not talking about all the Droobli-affiliated websites.
     I also consider what I find through Google to be more trustworthy than your desperate attempts at conning a few people into this scam.

321. Comment by Robbie | January 26th, 2009

     “I took a look and I see a lot of activity over there advertised with the company.”

     What activity? There is very little activity. All you will find are some Droobli-affiliated web sites. They could have all been done by the same person. The Droobli auction site is a better activity indicator, because if there is no activity there, Droobli is exclusively about selling licences to sale licences to sell licences…(=Ponzi scheme) As I said before: In the German section of the site, auctions are finished only sporadically and many of them are won by the same buyers, which should be highly improbable, especially for Zero Bid and Unique Bid. This means that a) there are very few Droobli customers taking part in the auctions or/and b) most of the buyers are Droobli people trying to make the site look at least a little busy.

     “How in the world would you know what’s going on unless you got involved yourself?”

     Oh, I don’t have to be involved with Ebay to know they’re successful. You can read about it. Everyone knows them. There is a lot of activity on the sites. That’s how I know. And if it was the case with Droobli, I’m sure I would know, too. But it isn’t, it just isn’t.

     “But the jokes on me you must be working for the company.”

     For what company? What are you talking about?

322. Comment by Robbie | January 26th, 2009

     “Even if you can’t understand German I think one can get the idea. Looks great to me.”

     Actually, even if you understand German, this horrible, amateurish video gives very few clues on how Droobli works. And why do you post the link anyway? Is this supposed to be some proof of activity? It’s a video made BY Droobli. It seems to be their prefered way of advertising. Of course they could try to get some serious press attention. Problem is: That would reveal them as scammers..

323. Comment by Me again | January 26th, 2009

     Did I say that they were not a success in Germany? I was just entertaining you. Boy you’re hot under the collar aren’t you?
     Who do you expect to be advertising, but, the associates? That’s what we do, we advertise a real business. Oh sure just one guy does it all. Yep licenses are the main goal now and for a reason. What’s wrong with that? You need the store fronts before you get the customers don’t you? I mean if there is an empty lot where you know they are going to build a McDonald’s on, are you going to send customers there before they build it. We are in the building stage now. Make sense? And again you can’t have more customers than you can service! That wouldn’t work. It’s a very tenuous balance.
     I mean it was just launched here October 4, 2008. Rome wasn’t built in a day as they say. Hey that rhymes. But you get the idea. You really think google is reliable. http://www.adscams.info/ Maybe your right. Maybe!

324. Comment by Charlie | January 27th, 2009

     Once a Jarhead, always a Jarhead, to funny!

325. Comment by Robbie | January 27th, 2009

     “Did I say that they were not a success in Germany?”

     Pretty much here:

     “So it’s not doing much there.”

     “Boy you’re hot under the collar aren’t you?”

     Am I? Where? I think you’re not being entertaining, you’re being evasive.

     “Who do you expect to be advertising, but, the associates?”

     But advertising means one-sided activity, as long as there are no buyers. I think that the licenses are the only goal, period. You said before that Droobli has been operating in Germany since 2003. Well, apparently they didn’t get very far and hardly anyone has ever heard of them. Again, why are they no serious press reports about them? Why does Droobli not attempt to get some positive press? Maybe because they’re not a legitimate company and they know it? The only article I can find on a respected German e-commerce web site is a warning against Droobli which is 2 years old.
     Google is reliable as a tool (=search engine), so I don’t see the relevance of your link.

326. Comment by Gene | January 27th, 2009

     I don’t see any relevance in anything you say!
     Bye!

327. Comment by Charlie | January 27th, 2009

     Don’t take things so personally “Me Again” it’s just a blog for God’s sake, Did you think I was trying to get your checking account information or something ridiculous like that, I’m rich dude! I was just trying to get a rise out of someone and you’re to easy. I’m a girlscout? I have “Leporsy” as you say correct spelling is Leprosy and in Hawaii it’s not a punchline, the next time you get one of your massive wire tranfers come to Maui, see my house ride in my car, I certainly don’t need your money, and I don’t use anonymous names, everyone that reads this knows my real name and my address, To tell you the truth I hope I’m wrong about Droobli, I’ll be the first to admit it. Go with God Soldier.

328. Comment by Gene/Me again/me | January 27th, 2009

     I am not a soldier and never have been but I did get an honourable discharge and I will attempt to go with God. I asked you to call me back and told you when I was available, but you didn’t. Love to see you in Maui and see about the leprosy (correct spelling) you talk about thanks for looking it up for me. LOL! Yes I don’t spell that great thanks. I never had it LOL. Leprosy that is and I never said you did Robbie. Just using a metaphor. I gave a website rich man every time I posted at least one of them where one can reach me and you can see who’s writing very easily and that’s the idea. Just look at the site. I mean really I am not hiding. Did you really join the company? If so do you always just throw your money around and not see something through? Did you inherit your riches?
     You sound like a great guy over the phone and I’d be happy to make your acquaintance, send me a ticket. Make that two I can bring my wife. Only a blog but in your futile efforts you’re really trying to put a damper on the business which all can see to be uncalled for. I mean we’re just getting started. It will take time. But it’s good to get in now and take the hard knocks and build it. Thus my contention, but I think all can see you’re in a battle you can’t win and I put enough effort here that reasonable people can concur there is not a problem with the company and it’s goals, just this blog. Hey you can still call. If you get the machine leave a message and I’ll get back to you when I can or when is the best time to reach you?

329. Comment by Charlie | January 27th, 2009

     Like I said, I hope and pray that I’m wrong about Droobli, time will tell, and by the way you’re right you and I would be friends in person it’s all I know, I’m only doing this for fun I won’t be blogging for a few weeks.

330. Comment by dream team | January 28th, 2009

     here is the address of the logistics center in AZ, I personally went to this site, Eaglescout claimed it is a church, and is dead wrong, along with so many other false claims made about this company. Eaglescout is nothing more than a great promoter of scam talk to earn a penny off advertising using Droobli as his platform for negetive press.

     Google MonaVie and Scam, the largest scam site makes a killing on this type of biz model, selling fear to those that are on the fence looking for a way to get out of the rat race and start their own biz from home. Traffic = advertising dollars. Eaglescout may even be paid by Ebay to generate lies that 99% of the readers here cant really prove. Guess what, I am the 1% I guess, he is wrong, he has lied and Im happy with the homework I and many others have done, while everyone else makes excuses, I and my team are making lemonade.

     Here is the address of Droobli Fulfillment center-
     15735 N 83rd Way, Scottsdale AZ 85260

     this is right off the label from a box from an item I bought and received via UPS. I would give you the tracking number too but then you could trace that back to my house and call it a vacant hill as 4 years ago thats what it was. Its not that hard to put a “spin” on the truth.

     good times

331. Comment by Gene | January 28th, 2009

     I call what Eaglescout is doing as scamapedia. Oh and Charlie I used Robbie for Charlie in my last post. Excuse me. I was tired and it was getting late here.
     If you trace the phone number on the label from the box, back to the company, you find the company uses these guys, a world class service.
     http://www.globalduplication.com/
     It doesn’t look like a church. They’ve been around from well look here and seem to be doing a great job Warehousing. They say,
     Ease your inventory burden by storing your products in our climate-controlled warehouse. Your products are always monitored and protected in our secure facility, and are immediately available for processing and shipment.

332. Comment by gimmeabreak | January 28th, 2009

     Whoever run this site makes money every time somebody googles Droobli….and make money off of Adsense…lots of it I’m sure. Being controversial drives traffic…go figure.

333. Comment by goodforthem | January 28th, 2009

     may be they deserve some money. sure didn’t learn any of this any where else.

334. Comment by Charlie | January 29th, 2009

     Amen, “Goodforthem” I’ve found this site very informative and fun. So why not it hasn’t cost me a penny. Peace.

335. Comment by Skeptic | January 30th, 2009

     I just heard of this site “GROOBLI” a few weeks ago. Although I’m not a fortune teller, I have a STRONG feeling this site is gonna be very profitable. I am strongly considering joining. If it goes BIG, I wanna be there….

336. Comment by eaglescout | January 30th, 2009

     Not much of a reader, are you, “skeptic”?

337. Comment by Skeptic | January 31st, 2009

     I occasionally read Mr Eaglescout. I guess your savvy demeanor speaks volumes. Anyway, I went to a GROOBLI meeting last night and joined. This business seems very legitimate and I have a great feeling about it. It’s a great opportunity for those willing to take a calculated risk.

     Save this post Mr Eaglescout. In a year or so, you could use it against me if GROOBLI fails.

     Although, I doubt it will. Take care. Mr. Skeptic

338. Comment by eaglescout | January 31st, 2009

     I occasionally read Mr Eaglescout. I guess your savvy demeanor speaks volumes.

     Your vagueness reminds me of GroobLi propaganda.

     Anyway, I went to a GROOBLI meeting last night and joined. This business seems very legitimate and I have a great feeling about it.

     True skeptics don’t base their decisions on feelings.

     It’s a great opportunity for those willing to take a calculated risk.

     What a coincidence, so is everything else, including murder!

339. Comment by beavis | February 1st, 2009

     Umm, I was just at Droobli’s website and I looked up the completed auctions. There is not enough volume going through this site to justify a mom and pop operation much less a replacement for Ebay. Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t some merchandise have to get moved (I know, I’m just nit picking to all of you “big picture” types)? So, let’s see, there is dog squat for sales volume which means revenues from auctions can’t provide the funds for all of you Droobli types to reach your lofty goals? Let me guess, volume increases are right around the corner and only those who get in early will make the big bucks. In the mean time all of you recruits are shoveling off your own funds to Droobli’s corporate.

     “Skeptic” wrote:

     “It’s a great opportunity for those willing to take a calculated risk. ”

     If you don’t mind me asking, what exactly did you “calculate”?
     (this is a fictitious question; please, please don’t answer; really, I don’t want to hear the answer. . . really; I get the bit that if you recruit 10 people and they recruit ten people who then recruit 10 people you will attain world dominance 90 days)

     Excuse me now, I have to go make up some lies for some scammers (it’s a hobby I have messing with Internet scam artists). You should drop by; we have a lot of fun dealing with people that want to make us rich. You’ll learn a lot about get rich quick schemes. In fact, once you learn the “modalities” of the scammers you might see some things that look very familiar.

340. Comment by Skeptic | February 1st, 2009

     I am not recruiting anyone for this site Mr. Eaglescout. In fact, I am not looking to recruit anyone. I know I’ll make a good profit off my customer base. You, nor anyone else needs to join. I’m good with it. GROOBLI is gonna be a profit maker and I will be part of it.

     As far as the site goes, Yes, there isn’t activity(like E-BAY) right now. Give it some time, at least until May or June 2009. This site is customer driven and right now it has moderate traffic. As the word get’s out, it will explode. Run the site through compete.com and you’ll find phenominal growth (833% to be exact).

     I like you Mr. Eaglescout. You make me laugh with your negative outlook. Yes, I am a SKEPTIC, especially with these ponzie schemes trying to take peoples hard earned money. I can assure you, GROOBLI isn’t one. This site will be big…

     Go GROOBLI!!!

341. Comment by dream team | February 1st, 2009

     is it me or is it odd I provide specific facts to refute eaglescout re people getting paid, products being delivered to customers at discount with very reasonable shipping costs, and where the fulfillment center is in AZ complete with address, (that he claims is a church) and eaglescout wont respond? The most basic info has been in place to prove him wrong and yet eaglescout continues this is a scam still? The question then I have for eaglescout is who has been scammed? Give me one name and number or email so we can all be educated with facts of actual damages occuring that should be reported to the DA office instead of the blind loaded theories of Scam talk. I am living proof this is not a scam. Shoot me your cell number and we can meet in person anytime, anyplace and I will provide you with every legal detail you need to move on, unless of course that puts a major dent in your own scam to sell advertising space based on a lie.

342. Comment by beavis | February 1st, 2009

     Skeptic,

     Less than 75,000 visitors and typically less than 12 successful auctions a day. . . hmmm. . . I think I’ll pass on that “get rich quick” Koolaide.

     Did it ever occur to you that with even the moderate traffic Droobli receives, it should be doing far better than what it is doing? Caesars Palace’s website gets approximately the same number of visitors and they are doing some business. Let me give you a hint as to why Droobli is not; their “reverse auction” concept sucks. There, I’ve said it. The problem with Droobli is their product is poo. Their real product is selling people like you “a great opportunity for those willing to take a calculated risk”. In Nigeria they have a couple of applicable terms: “mugus” which means “fools” and “guyman”which means “master of fools”. I think it is obvious who the mugus are and who the guyman are.

343. Comment by beavis | February 2nd, 2009

     dream team,

     I looked up the “fullfillment center” info for Droobli you provided. 15735 N 83rd Way, Scottsdale AZ 85260 is the address for GLABAL CASSETTES. I think your item was drop shipped from them. Anyway, with the volume of products Droobli is selling in the US I would think a room at Motel 6 would be sufficient for their US operations (plus it has the advantage of being moved quickly if the state’s Attorney General gets to be a problem).

344. Comment by beavis | February 2nd, 2009

     My mistake; there is also GDF Fulfillment Solutions (packing and shipping company). Maybe they trotted down from the Motel 6 and shipped it from there.

345. Comment by Robbie | February 2nd, 2009

     “I don’t see any relevance in anything you say!”

     LOL, I see common sense obviously won’t get through to you, so I guess time and your account ballance will have to do it.

     “Whoever run this site makes money every time somebody googles Droobli….and make money off of Adsense”

     Yeah, brilliant idea! Considering the traffic and public awareness of Droobli, Eaglescout must be a Zillionaire already. Man, if you want to discredit someone, at least think up somehting more convincing…

346. Comment by Skeptic | February 2nd, 2009

     Mr. Beavis, You sure live up to your name. What were him and his partners famous words? Oh yeah, “butt head”. You are a SCHIESTER! I see your game and I’m willing to play it. Again,
     GROOBLI will be the biggest thing to hit the internet market.

     It’s obvious you don’t believe in it however, I and other intellegent individuals do. So do us a favor, stay on the porch! Go GROOBLI!!!

347. Comment by not a dumbass | February 3rd, 2009

     You people seriously sound as if you are 1st graders. GROOBLI is a cult meant for stupid people that dont know how to investigate things online. Which of you dumbasses has received a check that resulted in an actual profit?

348. Comment by dream team | February 3rd, 2009

     hey, not a dumbass,

     You think what you did was really investigation? lol…

     I got 2 checks, one for $4,608 and another for $6,018, my next check slated to direct deposit on the 15th of feb is for 10,945.00. I paid a one time investment of $3,291 on Dec 9th. After seening this makes sense, I bought another position for my wife so I could use the discounted credits to sign up a charity to help injured riders, go to http://www.riderdownauctions.com . I paid for them to have this site so anyone that gets hurt in a MotoX accident can get some help financially, so it is a good cause, people window shop, the charity makes 30%, I make about 1/3 of what they make, everyone is happy….. I have over 200 retail clients signed up since I started and Im not even trying to sign them up! I work very very part time (1-2 hrs a day) and know people personally making over 20k a month now from their one time investment and a few emails and a little effort. Why dont you send me a personal email and I will be happy to give you more specifics. This is not a joke and not a scam. The money made is from people window shopping to find deals, not just when they buy the product, but that is on the way soon, over 6 million products on the way using Droobli as a worldwide internet platform to direct shoppers to the best deals. The auction site is merely a one phase fun deal that was released first, it is a very small part of what Droobli will be.

     I also bought a cookbook for my wife cheap on the site, had it delivered and it sits in my Kitchen now paid for less than I could get it anywhere on the net. Happy wife, happy life, and money to show for it…..

     Recap-
     I made profit and got investment money back very quick,
     help a good cause by helping others at my expense,
     understand the big picture of what the biz model is and am not scared to make money,
     bought a product cheap that we needed so very badly…lol

     So whos the dumbass now?

     you dont have the money,
     didnt help anyone,
     dont understand the biz cuz you have never tried,
     and dont have a sweet cookbook your wife uses now….

     more good times.

349. Comment by dream team | February 3rd, 2009

     Beavis,
     really, that was your only arguemnt to me proving Eaglescout theory wrong about the address…., motel 6? Did you know the investors in Droobli are worth hundreds of millions? Do you know who they are? Get on a plane and meet me in Phoenix next weekend and for the price of a GOld Package I may introduce you to them….haha.

     From Bevis-
     “My mistake; there is also GDF Fulfillment Solutions (packing and shipping company). Maybe they trotted down from the Motel 6 and shipped it from there.”

     So Eaglescout, another Hater just proved my point you lie…

     Beavis, the smartest thing you have said here was “my mistake”

     That puts you in the same arena as Eaglescout as to making mistakes, so whos next now for a truth beating?

     Clearly not Dumbass, he was too easy.

     That should tee him up now for a total subjective slandering we can all enjoy for our amusement.

     Droobli is fun.
     The truth = priceless.

350. Comment by eaglescout | February 4th, 2009

     is it me or is it odd I provide specific facts to refute eaglescout re people getting paid,

     You can’t refute something that wasn’t said.

     products being delivered to customers at discount with very reasonable shipping costs,

     I don’t recall you providing any facts regarding the above, especially in the form of refutations.

     and where the fulfillment center is in AZ complete with address, (that he claims is a church)

     If the GroobLi warehouse is not (or was not) a church run by Linda Cross, then I may have made a mistake regarding the warehouse. Nevertheless, I have yet to look into whether Linda Cross and Harvest International are in league with GroobLi or not.

     It’s a little odd that GroobLi would allow Linda Cross to advertise her GroobLi site as a business associate if she is spreading lies about GroobLi.

     and eaglescout wont respond?

     Ibidem.

     The most basic info has been in place to prove him wrong and yet eaglescout continues this is a scam still?

     Missing word; Check your grammar.

     The question then I have for eaglescout is who has been scammed?

     The “business associates” who were persuaded to advertise for GroobLi for a yearly fee.

     The “business associates” who can’t sell GroobLi products to anyone but themselves. (Thus, they are not really GroobLi associates, they are just GroobLi customers who are subsidizing the lotteries).

     People who end up inadvertently gambling and playing the lottery on GroobLi and buying computers with conflicting (impossible) technical specifications.

     Give me one name and number or email so we can all be educated with facts of actual damages occuring that should be reported to the DA office instead of the blind loaded theories of Scam talk.

     Most of the people who are involved are being deceived or are deceiving others one way or another. Check this page for references.

     I am living proof this is not a scam. Shoot me your cell number and we can meet in person anytime, anyplace and I will provide you with every legal detail you need to move on, unless of course that puts a major dent in your own scam to sell advertising space based on a lie.

     If you feel the need to meet in person, send me an email that matches your IP address. However, if you have every legal detail relevant to GroobLi, wouldn’t you rather post it here where it is publicly available?

     You may have provided a the real location of GroobLi’s fulfillment center. Great start! Now disprove that GroobLi is a lottery, that the 3rd game has a heavy gambling component, that GroobLi is an MLM, that at least 2 of GroobLi’s current or former executives are in legal trouble related to scam-artistry, that GroobLi doesn’t have any more customers today than it did last October, that GroobLi doesn’t make money from the only non-gambling, non-lottery game, unless it marks up the starting prices above market value.

     Read up on Bayes’ Theorem, or statistical modeling for an explanation on why the burden of proof is now on GroobLi.

     “Beavis” said it best:

     “[O]nce you learn the ‘modalities’ of the scammers you might see some things that look very familiar.”

351. Comment by Skeptic | February 4th, 2009

     Yeah, O.K. Cub Scout or “I’m sorry”, eaglescout

     Droobli is the best thing to hit the internet since google or ebay……You’ll be joining soon (Unless you already have!).

     Like I said before, if you want stats, go to Competition.com (no affiliation with Droobli). Growth is great and will keep climbing as time goes on.

     You can’t dispute that, Girl Scout.

352. Comment by Insidious | February 4th, 2009

     “Competition.com“? A++.

     Yeah, poopyeagle, take that.

     poopyeagle, why do you complain so much about GroobLi if you intend to join GroobLi for its perks like being part of a cult?

     All the big people like my main man Osama and OJ are in it. Heck, even Santi Fuentes ran it for a while!

     O my G 350 comments!

353. Comment by beavis | February 5th, 2009

     Dream Team,

     Selling tokens that are non-redeemable for cash seems to pay pretty well.

     Skeptic,

     Web traffic is up on Droobli’s site; auction traffic is dog poop. That is what you do, auction stuff; right? Oh, my mistake, like Dream Team you sell tokens that are non-redeemable for cash. Or how about those seller accounts so you can hope that your auctions are one of those precious few successful ones? Oh, my mistake, again; money is selling the seller accounts that rarely generate successful auctions. If I missed anything in your business model, please correct me (I know you will because you believe). One more thing, your auction site hardly sells anything; I repeat, your auction site hardly sells anything. Did I mention that your auction site hardly sells anything?

354. Comment by Visman | February 6th, 2009

     Real deal …

     http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/11293045/Microsoft_Office_2007_Pro_Retail_FREE_SHIPPING.html

     Do the calculations yourself … and did not have to buy in nor pay 80c …

     Regards
     Visman

355. Comment by Visman | February 6th, 2009

     Forgot to say … R7600 at Incredible connection …

     http://www.incredible.co.za/services/catalog/moreinfo.asp?sku=60879

     Regards

356. Comment by beavis | February 6th, 2009

     Visman,

     You are missing the point. Droobli is about signing up more people who then sign up more people, and, provided you ignore the attrition rate that decimates all MLM calculations, your eventual net worth climbs logarithmically until buy your own country, get an army and become a superpower. The auction is just a distraction while Droobli sells others the right to solicit others for money. Only a fool hit upside the head with the stupid stick by Barry Bonds would bid on one these auctions. 80 cents lowers the price 25 cents. . . THWACK!

357. Comment by beavis | February 6th, 2009

     OK, I’ve completely changed my tune; Droobli is legit. After much research I’ve gotten through the hype. I’ve even come up with a way to buy in. You see, I recently got this letter:

     Federal Ministry of Finance
     Plots 745 & 746, Ahmadu B3ll0 Way,
     Central Area, P.M.B 14 Garki, Abuja

     Dear Beneficiary,

     Re: Your Certified Bank Draft Payment

     I am the newly Appointed Finance Minister, I resumed office in my present capacity on the 5th of January 2009.Formerly I was the Director General, Debt Management office in the presidency before I was appointed the Minister of Finance.

     Your file number ‘ADK00192′ as an unpaid beneficiary is among those forwarded to my table. And I have discovered that all efforts you have made in the past to receive this fund was unsuccessful due to improper conduct and activities of some fraudulent government officials who have been dismissed presently by the Presidency.

     As a matter of urgency, this office has only approved a part payment of $3.3 Million United State dollars for 2,350 Beneficiaries from Asia, Europe, America, Africa, Oceania and South America.

     Arrangement to release this fund through certified Bank Draft has commenced. You are urgently requested to reconfirm your details as follows: – Full names, Address, Mobile Telephone and a copy of your Identification. These information will enable us expedite action on the release of your Bank Draft to you.

     Yours faithfully,

     Mr Mansur MuhKtar
     Finance Minister (FRN)

     So, if one of you Droobli fans can send me the fees necessary by Western Union ($10,000 USD) I can complete this transaction and then I can buy into Droobli through you. We all win!

358. Comment by Visman | February 7th, 2009

     You are missing the point. Droobli is about signing up more people who then sign up more people, and, provided you ignore the attrition rate that decimates all MLM calculations …

     Beaves
     >>> not missing the point, just pointing out that auctions >>> are about out bidding onother, yet still making a kill >>> without having to buy discounts, and furthermore pay to >>> advertise the auctioneer.

     The next post … smells like a 419, taste like a 419 … sorry I aint no Droobli fan … or I may just have fallen for it! LOL

359. Comment by Visman | February 7th, 2009

     OK Get the picture … should have followed your link in the first place …

360. Comment by beavis | February 7th, 2009

     Droobli members,

     I’m copyrighting a new term: “Drooblidiot”. If it is stamped on your forehead you owe me a token (you will probably have to ask your friends or relatives as you probably can’t see it yourself).

     Visman,
     It is a good site. We get really frustrated with the “vics” (victims). Greed really blinds people.

361. Comment by Visman | February 7th, 2009

     In one of my older posts I touched on greed …

     For some or other reason, there are many, people caught into the scam via a greed factor is blinded!

     As for greed. Any good sales person uses greed and plays on the greed factor as part of the marketing concept. If you do not understand that, I suggest you write in for a good coarse in marketing. I have no intention in giving you one for free. Promises of a good to even great riches. Savings and so on. Using them all correctly building in an element of trust and help and you have your victim. The first element is always trust, then the rest completing the circle with the final HELP factor. Everybody uses it in some or other way closing a deal, by that I mean a fair deal. It’s called good business. Unfortunately the same concepts is available to ruthless people.

     In a scam this is combined with inner greed used by ruthless scammers who do not care who they harm on their way to the own riches. Greed is their motivating and moving factor for setting up the scam in the first place, using the very same greed in others.

     Greed really does blind people, specificaly people in need …

362. Comment by Skeptic | February 7th, 2009

     OK VISMAN & BEAVIS, LET ME GUESS…. &^%EATER IS YOUR WEB-SITE, RIGHT? GENIUS… YOU TWO ARE THE SCAMMERS, NOT http://WWW.GROOBLI.COM

363. Comment by beavis | February 7th, 2009

     Skeptic,

     I’ll try to type slowly and use small words for you. It is an anti-scamming site. It is called a “baiter” site as the the participants, “baiters”, goal is to waste the scammers’ time and resources (and have a good time doing it). I view you as a “vic” or victim, and a stubborn one at that. Our goal is to protect people like you but we can’t always get through to your type, especially when you are on a mission to part with your money. There is no 20 million dollars waiting for you in a trunk box at a security company, you did not win the AOL/Microsoft lotto, the 2007 BMW on Craigs List will never get delivered to you for $700, the totally hot Russian chick will never arrive at your doorstep after you send her the airfare, and the market for a crazy-ass auction with onerous terms is smaller than you could ever imagine. Trust me, if I was a scammer I would have you cashing hot checks for me by now and your bank account would be emptied because you are so gullible.

364. Comment by Visman | February 7th, 2009

     Hi Skeptic

     Now what shall I be scamming with? Maybe you out of a deal? For a company existing since 2003, Droobli is doing pretty well right? And it still promise it will still do well right?

     I will copy paste a previous post for you, and please do not tell me Droobli manage do not read, or maybe they cannot read or defend the finding … or maybe do not understand, or if they understand, do not have the capability to act accordingly … now which shall that be?

     To understand, you have to read all the posts on this site and follow the links. There are various other sites dealing with Droobli, some extremely blatant against Droobli calling it a scam. This site however covers the most information even though it is not as blatant.

     In a very short summary, no person, nor any business has to stand back when bad publicity blows in its neck. However Jenson has been accused of bankrupting various companies, the links are provided in this blog to prove same, and so has Droobli been ripped apart. Neither has done anything to rebut these accusations other than denying same verbally (in writing on the internet) without any solid proof. Neither has taken any legal steps to remedy the situation. Obviously it is hurting the business and the person. That in itself calls for suspicions big time.

     That in itself furthermore calls for DISHONESTY, and how in the world will it be possible for anyone to measure the so called clicks? You will never be able to tell. Neither will you have full control over your so called business, other than selling licences. Then it is no business other than paying someone else for the opportunity to market their business and receive a commission on same = salesman, nothing else.
     Calling it a business is hyped up emotional glorification. Everybody wants somehow to have control over their destination. See the spam I received. They sell a way to get rich without any solid proof that same be sustainable.

     Discount is based on luck, no business is based on luck other than sound honest hard work.

     1. IGROOBLICATE is a POWERFUL, PROVEN, step-by-step system that thousands of people just like you have followed to start their own moneymaking Internet businesses.

     Take note … IGROOBLICATE!!! They are selling licences to sell licences.

     Droobli furthermore at this point in time remains in debt to its clients / associates, actually sale persons, too prove it is not a scam, and not using the current world economic crisis with its subsequent emotional issues around job losses to take last pennies out of needy pockets to create their own wealth.

     Although not official, but considering the evidence presented with the respondent not rebutting same with solid proof, and with the vague attempts by Droobli to rebut without proof, if this has to presented before a chairperson, at this point in time the chairperson will have no choice but to declare Droobli a SCAM.

     End …

     If you read the older post, all of it, you will not only find the above but much more. Sit down, do the maths (check it, make sure it is correct), think about what you read before answering …

     Now think again with your own personal experience you had from Droobli. You can hide it from the world, not from yourself.

     Regards

365. Comment by Skeptic | February 8th, 2009

     YOU’RE RIGHT VISMAN, GROOBLI WILL BE A PROFITABLE..NICE TO SEE YOU JOINED….WWW.GROOBLI.COM

366. Comment by Visman | February 8th, 2009

     Gues I wrote to fast …

367. Comment by Skeptic | February 8th, 2009

     Good Investment Visman…www.droobli.com

368. Comment by beavis | February 8th, 2009

     Skeptic,

     how would you like to make some real money? Iv’e invented a totally new program called a “sideways pyrimid”. Unlike Droobli, it moves left to right instead of top to bottom. Think of the profit! I know you’ll get it because you are a forward thinker (unlike Visman who thinks all pyramid and Ponzi schemes are dishonest). I can get you on board for only $5,000; but, if you act right now we’ll double the offer and give you two memberships for the price of one; but wait, we’re not done yet! Sign up only two more people with your order and we’ll throw in this DELUXE set of Ginsu knives! Just call 1-800-IMAMUGU and give the code “fool4life”.

369. Comment by Visman | February 9th, 2009

     Drop Shipping … Just something I by accident stumbled over. Hey Skeptic … check it out! You ever bought on ebay? Wondered how the sellers work? Check it out! Here just one, and they are many a plenty!

     http://www.doba.com/

     Or has Droobli by chance, Damn I wonder about that “chance” though up the idea of using drop shipping … clever! Now one has to pay 80c for a not gauranteed 25c discount because it may befall someone else … not forgetting the license fees though!

     Just checking …

     By the way Skeptic … I am a legal representative in South Africa (for incase you may think I advertise for an overseas company-saleman you know. Droobli has not made it localy, then in actual fact they never thought about drop shipping. My appologies for over estimating their intelectual capability!

     Regards
     

370. Comment by Visman | February 9th, 2009

     Dealing with Drop-Shippers in Your eBay Business
     A drop-shipper is a business that stocks merchandise and sells it to you (the reseller) — but ships the merchandise directly to your customer.

     By using a drop-shipper, you transfer the risks of buying merchandise, shipping it, and storing it to another party. You become a stockless retailer with no inventory hanging around — often an economical, cost-effective way to do business.

     The following steps outline the standard way to work with most drop-shippers via eBay:

     1. Sign up on the drop-shipper’s Web site to sell their merchandise on eBay or in your Web store.

     Be sure you’ve checked out their terms before you sign up — to be sure there’s no minimum purchase upon signing up.

     2. Select the items from their inventory that you wish to sell.

     For this example, say the item you select costs $6.99. The supplier gives you descriptive copy and photographs to help make your sales job easier.

     3. Post the item online and wait (fidgeting with anticipation) for someone to buy it.

     By the way, you’ll be selling this item for $19.99 plus shipping.

     4. As soon as your buyer pays for the item, e-mail the drop-shipper (or fill out a special secure form on their Web site) and pay for the item with your credit card or PayPal.

     5. Relax while the drop-shipper ships the item to your customer for you.

     6. If all goes well, the item arrives quickly and safely.

     You make a profit and get some positive feedback.

     http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/dealing-with-dropshippers-in-your-ebay-business.html

     The rest you may read yourself, do however not miss out on http://www.dropshippingsucks.com/start.htm

     Clearly mega patience and a lot of homework before one parts with those cents …

     find the holes …

     Regards

371. Comment by Visman | February 9th, 2009

     Silence is golden, so shuttup and get rich!

     Know what? Dealing with the likes, takes time, and time = money.

     Getting nowhere … well meant brings nobody anywhere. Go enjoy your business. I truly hope I am wrong, since 2008? Nothing changed on the promises delivered by Droobli? Right?

     Regards from a sunny / rainy (had a lot lately and love it) Pretoria
     Visman

372. Comment by dream team | February 9th, 2009

     made 1200 bucks today in Droobli-
     didnt spend a dime.

     periodically I will chime in to let you know my income, thats all that matters while you opportunity cost yourself into a bigger hole waiting.

373. Comment by Visman | February 9th, 2009

     Any proof of such? Why should you be believed?

374. Comment by beavis | February 10th, 2009

     I believe dream team made the money while not spending a dime because most of what people buy from Droobli is just a dream. Think of the mark-up on selling dreams; it’s right up there with selling religion (and after hearing from some of these Drooblidiots I’m beginning to think of Droobli as a religion). How do you create income in Droobli when the auctions (the supposed product of Droobli) are not doing hardly any volume? Easy, talk people into joining the pyramid and pocket some fees; the auction is just a distraction so that the pyramid structure is obscured. Yes dream team, I believe you are making money; I also believe the Droobli product is a crock. You are selling the income from a pyramid scheme under the guise of an auction house. Pyramids make money initially and then screw the majority on the bottom. That is why they are illegal. Throw in a product, no matter how bad of a product it is, and you can often defend it as not being a pyramid. I think Droobli is right on the edge legally and I think they fail the morality test.

     And then there are the laughable claims. Twelve “successful” auctions a day and Droobli propaganda turns it around and says they are taking market share from eBay. Do you realize how insane of a comment that is? It insults the intelligence hearing these claims yet your Droobli websites are full of them. The odds of Droobli, with its lack of market penetration and incredibly low sales volumes, in beating eBay is comparable to “A whelk’s chance in a supernova,” (quote from Douglas Adams; a whelk is a small snail and a supernova is, well, a supernova). The idea that you would present such ludicrously twisted statements to people in order to recruit them is something a sociopath would do. I’m getting to dislike you guys more than the Nigerian scammers.

375. Comment by eaglescout | February 10th, 2009

     Throw in a product, no matter how bad of a product it is, and you can often defend it as not being a pyramid. I think Droobli is right on the edge legally and I think they fail the morality test.

     I agree. They are just on the edge legally. It is my understanding that they consulted with a legal firm that specializes in MLM.

     Although I suspect “the morality test” is strictly a metaphor, I’m curious as to whether you had something specific in mind.

     If you look at the GroobLi management profiles on the main website, you will see they keep getting better as the criticism gets worse. Bobby Jensen went from marketing ACN in Denmark (accessed last year), to working in creative environments such as LEGO (accessed today).

     GroobLi has about 1 month to go before all of this starts showing up in internet archives, such as waybackmachine.

376. Comment by beavis | February 10th, 2009

     eaglescout,

     Oh no, the “morality test” is real. We tie their hands and feet and throw them into deep water. If they sink we pull them out and burn them as witches

377. Comment by Mike | February 10th, 2009

     This is great! Absolutely no specifics are provided. Absolutely no footnoted references exist within these pages. Really, all I read on this page are ad-hominem attacks and zero evidence to back them up. However, I do note a lot of corrections, which indicates the author is more intent on throwing up conjcture, rather than making a water tight case. Why would someone do that?

     Oh, I see why. The various links you provide (as proof, no less), are all related to this site. In other words, the authors of this page are the ones pulling the scam, all in order to get people to view their pages and increase advertising revenue.

     I must say, you guys are a bright bunch. Here’s how it works:

     You set up an enemy whose name is prominant on the Web (in this case Droobli), throw around specious arguments and attacks, with no documentation or specifics (kind of funny how, since there are no specifics, you cannot be sued, huh!), and then litter your site with ads (which are dripping with irony because THEY ARE ALL MLM ADS!), for which you charge based upon measurable hits on your website.

     You guys have a great scam going! I’m telling you, it’s pure genius! Be the scam by pretending to report on a scam. Criminal minds are funny to watch. It’s lik ewatching my 3-year-old try to do something they think I do not understand, all in hopes of fooling me and getting away with it. Well, you fooled me, I actually clicked on your site.

     Just say “thank you” for my click, and the revenue it provided. You were right about one thing, though: This scam is barely legal.

378. Comment by eaglescout | February 10th, 2009

     To Mike,

     This is great!

     Yes it is!

     Absolutely no specifics are provided.

     Sure they are.

     Absolutely no footnoted references exist within these pages.

     Would you prefer your references footnoted, or inline hyper-linked?

     Really, all I read on this page are ad-hominem attacks and zero evidence to back them up.

     What kind of evidence are you looking for, besides primary sources?

     However, I do note a lot of corrections, which indicates the author is more intent on throwing up conjcture,

     That indicates to me that the author might be interested in putting bleeding edge information on GroobLi at the risk of being wrong every once in a while.

     rather than making a water tight case. Why would someone do that?

     Because GroobLi has changed over time, some corrections are actually updates. Just wait for the publicly available internet archives to come out.

     Oh, I see why. The various links you provide (as proof, no less), are all related to this site. In other words, the authors of this page are the ones pulling the scam, all in order to get people to view their pages and increase advertising revenue.

     Five links on the article go to pages inside The Spin Factor, where you’ll find translations and mathematical analysis, and more outside sources.

     Five other links direct you to other outside sources.

     I must say, you guys are a bright bunch. Here’s how it works:

     You set up an enemy whose name is prominant on the Web (in this case Droobli), throw around specious arguments and attacks, with no documentation or specifics (kind of funny how, since there are no specifics, you cannot be sued, huh!),

     The specifics and documentation are there, but a few were recently removed due to copyright claims. I’ve linked to specifics when the information has been removed.

     and then litter your site with ads (which are dripping with irony because THEY ARE ALL MLM ADS!),

     Some are MLM related, and most are not. If MLMers want to waste their money advertising the scams that I’m debunking, then that is hilarious. I see nothing wrong in letting deceptive MLMs like GroobLi shoot themselves in the foot.

     Think about it! They are paying to be debunked! They are offering themselves as examples of internet trash.

     GroobLi is a great model, because it has everything! People looking to study marketing and deception would do well to study GroobLi.

     You seem to be angry because we are offering information about GroobLi that is hard to find. Why don’t you offer counterexamples? Show us where we went wrong and why, and we will fix it!

379. Comment by beavis | February 10th, 2009

     Mike,

     What part of Droobli’s pathetic auction traffic do you not find verifiable? What part of their ridiculous comparisons of themselves to eBay do I need to further clarify for you? You mentioned you have gone through all of these posts and you still attack the author of this site? You just want to believe so bad that you are a lost cause. You are a victim of your own greed and ignorance is no longer an excuse for you because it has been spelled out for you and yet you continue to defend Droobli. This site is not for you. It is for the people that can still be saved from the manipulations of a morally bankrupt company and are not blinded by greed but are just victims. You are no longer what I consider a victim; you are part of the problem.

380. Comment by Mike | February 10th, 2009

     Not angry, I just appreciate the huge scam you are running. One would have to be absolutely blind to miss it. You claim to have evidence, and then link to another page on your own site, which then references numerous items that have either been changed, due to seemingly incompetent verification, or with documents being removed “due to copyright claims”. So, your “evidence” evaporates in thin air.

     You opine that the auctions are actually “lotteries”. Fine. I opine that taxes are really theft. But, that is opinion, not fact. Much like your view of the auctions.

     You hyperlink to your own site to back your own charges. That is much like a prosecutor calling himself to the stand, saying his word is impeccable, while regularly changing his testimony and making money off the it the entire time (as you are with all the MLM ads on your site…hilarious!).

     You ask for where you went wrong? How about verifiable proof that is not affiliated with your own income stream? Or, perhaps something other than a single entry on some one-off website with one guy claiming he didn’t receive his goods. That would be a great first start. Until that time, your “evidence” wouldn’t hold up in a jr. high school debate. Come on, stop pretending like children, and be grown ups here.

     By the way, there is no anger. I am actually in awe of your scam. You guys offer absolutely no proof (none), then use the Droobli name to attract readers, who then click on your “hyprlinks” to your own sites, thereby deriving more clicks and income for you. You guys are laughing all the way to the bank. Your site is a tremendous scam.

     Bravo! To actually pull off a scam like this requires a huge set of brass ones. The most telling tip is your inability to deal with push back without personalizing or internalizing it. That is what one does when there is no evidence, backup, or independent verification of their claims.

     If you have this entire electronic paper trail, which is purportedly an indictment of Droobli, place it all on one, single page, with valid links (to verifiable, independent sources, unaffiliated with you), and accessible information, that can be easily downloaded and reviewed, with actual addresses, phone numbers, email addresses, full names and specific titles of those making said claims.

     The heresay and conjecture that has been put forth thus far is laughable. Once you get serious, please let me know. Until that time, I can no more take you and this site seriously than I can a kidergardener teaching me about astrophysics using only Dora the Explorer graphics that seemingly disappear or are “removed due to copyright claims”.

     But you do state your opinions loudly. And we all know what opinions are like.

     BTW, I can’t wait to see the “rebuttal”, where you again provide no valid links, no verifiable sources, and nothing that leads to more clicks and advertising dollars for you and the MLM’s you are pushing on your site (and don’t blame that on Google. That is a coward’s move. Take responsibility for your own actions and DON’T SPIN).

381. Comment by Mike | February 10th, 2009

     Beavis – Nice. Don’t provide specifics (aside from your own evaporated, bad, and discontinued links from your own site) and throw ad hominems at the guys making obvious observations about your flawed methodology.

     After all, I am not defending Droobli. I am simply poking rational holes in your flawed presentation. Your hyperlinks are no good. Your evidence is flimsy, at best, leaving you unblle to sway anyone with even a room temperature IQ.

     I am in telecommunications, and have been for 15 years. I have started various telecom companies (Nextel launch team, from Fleet Call), and worked within the high tech arena for years. I am independently wealthy alredy. Greed has nothing to do with it from my standpoint. However, it seems that the people running this site are drivenn by greed, as the only “evidence” that is presented is circular in nature, involving intenal references that do nothing but drive ad revenue for the owners of this site.

     I am not involved with Droobli in any way. But, after reading your “evidence”, it is claear that it is YOU, those running this site, that are the true scam artists. That is the greed we are talking about here. So, please, get your facts straight and provide something other than ad hominem attacks. Unless, of course, that is all you have. And unfortunately, that seems to be the case in this instance. And I would hasten to add that, based upon the evidence, the only “ignorance” I can absolutely detect, eminates from those that believe others will follow their bad links, constant revisions of charges, and lack of evidence and proof of others wrong doing.

     Like I said…you are the scam. A whore for MLM ad dollars.

382. Comment by Mike | February 10th, 2009

     BTW, Beavis (the name is quite telling), I eagerly await your “investigation” into me being a scam, which will include numerous bad hyperlinks, anonymous posts on nondescript sites which feature nothing more than an incoherent, single paragraph, and other electronic items marked “removed” (but, hey, I’ll take it on faith…from…beavis).

     But, more ad revenue for you, right? You truly are “The Spin Factor”.

383. Comment by Mike | February 10th, 2009

     And I’M the problem? Laughable.

384. Comment by Visman | February 10th, 2009

     Why criticise on others investigations / comments, if you yourself have not done any investigation and cannot provide proof of same? That leaves your allegations empty with no substance.

     This is not the only site (start clicking), and since you have a mouthful without any proof provided, why not start your own since you obviously have the financial means for it?

     Regards

385. Comment by eaglescout | February 11th, 2009

     Not angry, I just appreciate the huge scam you are running. One would have to be absolutely blind to miss it. You claim to have evidence, and then link to another page on your own site, which then references numerous items that have either been changed, due to seemingly incompetent verification, or with documents being removed “due to copyright claims”. So, your “evidence” evaporates in thin air.

     One of GroobLi’s subcontractor’s objected to our droobli.thespinfactor.com subdomain, and filed a DMCA claim. We were asked to remove the material by our web hosting company’s “abuse” department.

     Regarding putting all the information on one page, that’s just a matter of formatting and categorizing information. If you don’t like it, that’s too bad. Go read about GroobLi somewhere else.

     You opine that the auctions are actually “lotteries”. Fine. I opine that taxes are really theft. But, that is opinion, not fact. Much like your view of the auctions.

     Is it also opinion that GroobLi’s two of GroobLi’s games are based on chance?

     You hyperlink to your own site to back your own charges. That is much like a prosecutor calling himself to the stand, saying his word is impeccable, while regularly changing his testimony and making money off the it the entire time (as you are with all the MLM ads on your site…hilarious!).

     Not really. It’s more like a private researcher pointing out the inconsistencies and lies by GroobLi to people who are interested.

     By the way, my word is not impeccable. That is precisely why I asked you to revise my information.

     And if you were a little more careful and had paid attention to my last post, you’d realize that we have plenty of outside sources. Was there something you wanted to see sourced that wasn’t? If so, I’m still waiting to hear from you.

     You ask for where you went wrong? How about verifiable proof that is not affiliated with your own income stream?

     Thank you for the red herring fallacy. Please try again: what is wrong (inaccurate) about the information?

     Or, perhaps something other than a single entry on some one-off website with one guy claiming he didn’t receive his goods.

     Oh, did you miss the in depth explanation of GroobLi’s business model? GroobLi’s statistics as presented by Alexa? Your own common sense?

     That would be a great first start. Until that time, your “evidence” wouldn’t hold up in a jr. high school debate.

     That’s fascinating.

     Come on, stop pretending like children, and be grown ups here.

     Please be more specific.

     By the way, there is no anger. I am actually in awe of your scam. You guys offer absolutely no proof (none), then use the Droobli name to attract readers, who then click on your “hyprlinks” to your own sites, thereby deriving more clicks and income for you. You guys are laughing all the way to the bank. Your site is a tremendous scam.

     Sorry, but the burden of proof is on you… I can wait.

     Bravo! To actually pull off a scam like this requires a huge set of brass ones. The most telling tip is your inability to deal with push back without personalizing or internalizing it. That is what one does when there is no evidence, backup, or independent verification of their claims.

     Please elaborate. Sounds to me like you are projecting your own feelings about GroobLi. Your inability to deal with the information provided seems to stem from your own childhood trauma (a poor grade in jr. high school speech class maybe?)

     If you have this entire electronic paper trail, which is purportedly an indictment of Droobli, place it all on one, single page, with valid links (to verifiable, independent sources, unaffiliated with you), and accessible information, that can be easily downloaded and reviewed, with actual addresses, phone numbers, email addresses, full names and specific titles of those making said claims.

     If you have an objection to the information provided, why haven’t you made any specific counterclaims? As I mentioned before, the veracity of these claims has little to do with the formatting. If you want a PDF, copy our website and our sources and print it out. Change the font to Comic Sans if that pleases you.

     Take responsibility for your own actions and DON’T SPIN.

     Cute.

386. Comment by Insidious | February 11th, 2009

     Hey Mike, I agree with you. This crap isn’t believable if it’s not all on one page. Heck, I won’t believe that GroobLi is a scam until I see all of this information (including the sources you can’t find) compressed into one sentence.

     Eaglescout, get back to me when you’ve managed to fit all of these sources into one word. In fact, I’m not writing another article for your stupid website until Mike gets over his linkophobia.

387. Comment by Skeptic | February 11th, 2009

     I made $1,500 this month in droobli…and no one is “underneath” me in this MLM. I could have recruited people so I could have made a better percentage, but I chose not too.

     You don’t need to “bring in” people to make money on this website. I have a well paying FULL TIME job and this only supplemnts my income. I hope to make at least $2,000 in March…Awesome!! My residual income will only go up from here…..and best of all, I’ve made $700 total profit (after my initial droobli marketing license fee) Thanks Droobli.com

388. Comment by beavis | February 11th, 2009

     Skeptic,

     I don’t have any links in my posts, my facts on the ridiculously low auction volume on Droobli is taken from droobli.com. If you feel comfortable with a company that runs around claiming they are taking market share away from eBay with this joke of a volume of business then so be it. Maybe I should be more open minded about Droobli. For instance, maybe it is true that:

     1. After months of operation, this approx. twelve successful auctions a day by Droobli has got eBay running for cover as it’s bottom line is desimated by this loss in business.
     2. Pyramid business models grow to infinitum and no one ever gets hurt; they just make lots of money.
     3. It’s really OK to make money by selling a pyramid as long as I thinly disguise it with some auction with wildly inequitable fees and rules.
     4. Scamming is a perfectly legitimate way to make a living; after all, the people that are being charged to join are greedy and deserve to be punished by me taking their money.
     5. If I ignore the reality of Droobli and think happy thoughts I will grow up to be a productive member of society by helping build another pyramid scheme which the world has a shortage of.
     6. The Egyptions became famous for pyramids so why can’t I?
     7. If I scam a bunch of people it is safe to bet that I won’t go to Hell as Hell doesn’t exist; well, probably doesn’t and I think there is a clause that scamming pyramid types don’t go there.

     It’s all so clear, now! I can’t wait to sign up!

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     Get real … what do these people not understand?

390. Comment by beavis | February 13th, 2009

     Hey, I just googled “droobli” and this site was the first hit. Where do I get my tokens at?

391. Comment by Doubting Thomas | February 13th, 2009

     OK – having just listened to a “webinar”, ad taken 15 minutes to think hard on it, here’s my take on Droobli.

     First of all, the webinars cost next to nothing to put on, and the guy who was the speaker used words like amazing, incredible, the next Ebay, Google, get in early, etc….I felt a few hairs stand up on the back of the neck…Then I started thinking, why would a consumer spend .80 to reduce the price by .25 – well people go to casinos and play the slots, why not throw $300 at shopping and occasionally get a $100 Ipod for free? You won’t talk about the your stupidity of the 350 times you put .80 into the machine, but you will tell everyone about the neat ipod you got for nothim….ok, so there are a lot of stupids out there that will part with their money…

     But wait….what proof do we have that all of the licensing money actually turns into downline revenue. What if the business model is hosting webinars, getting people all amped up about getting in quick and early and then moving on to the next group of license buyers?

     Bottom line, at best Droobli’s business model seems to be nothing more than a combination of Ebay and a casino, where the large number of people spend their money and get zip while a handful get stuff cheaper and some people get “revenue streams”….that’s “at best”…

     At worst…well..you decide….

392. Comment by beavis | February 13th, 2009

     Doubting Thomas,

     I think the majority of fools bidding on Droobli are the same ones who bought in as “entrepreneurs”. Nothing like a pyramid combined with greed to get those blinders on. Droobli’s theme song should be the old Bangles tune “Walk Like An Egyptian”.

393. Comment by beavis | February 13th, 2009

     I googled Droobli again (I’m too lazy to bookmark the site). Out of 72,500,000 results for “droobli” this site is number one. I hope eaglescout is getting good ad revenues off this site because that is an honest living; providing people with important information before they commit money to an operation like Droobli actually provides a benefit to society. Droobli, well, I think my opinion is well known by now. Go thespinfactor.com!

394. Comment by Visman | February 13th, 2009

     Why should anybody pay to advertise an auction where the goods are supplied by one seller … its a storefront, nothing else.

     When in fact true bargains can be bought …
     http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/jsp/item/Item.jsp?Trade_TradeId=11328667

     http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/jsp/item/Item.jsp?Trade_TradeId=11338257

     http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/jsp/item/Item.jsp?Trade_TradeId=11331167

     All in just about one day, and the site which is called South Africas ebay sells itself and is becoming more and more populer. Many sellers using drop shipping getting in under the belt of the expensive storefronts, which is what Droobli realy is combined with gambling (games of chance).

395. Comment by beavis | February 15th, 2009

     Come on, where are the drooblidiots? I need someone to slap. “Mike” was fun because he gets me confused with eaglescout. “Skeptic” is amusing in that he is anything except a skeptic and there is nothing more entertaining then a “born again” MLMer (unless you are stuck in a room with one and there is a whiteboard and easel in the room). And “Insidious” thinks he can write sarcasm such as:

     “Hey Mike, I agree with you. This crap isn’t believable if it’s not all on one page. Heck, I won’t believe that GroobLi is a scam until I see all of this information (including the sources you can’t find) compressed into one sentence.

     Eaglescout, get back to me when you’ve managed to fit all of these sources into one word. In fact, I’m not writing another article for your stupid website until Mike gets over his linkophobia.”

     What a deep thinker. I’m starting to see a pattern here; if you are not quite bright enough to connect the dots, are easily influenced and your life is such that you so desperately want to believe in the magic that you are willing to abandon common sense and divorce all connection with reason in order to pursue a fantasy, then you are Droobli material. “Bigger than eBay”. . . it’s so laughable and to think somebody actually believes in a company that hands them that line.

396. Comment by Charlie | February 15th, 2009

     I have to say this site is fun! It’s amazing how personal things get between everyone, I log on every now and then whenever I’m bored just to see who’s calling who names. But I have yet to see anyone with so much time on their hands as this Butthead who calls himself Beavis this guy really needs a girlfriend or a drug habit or something, I’m still toying with Droobli if I make money great! If not no problem like I said before I’m Rich Bitches and living in Maui Hawaii mostly poolside getting drunk. But I love this site!!

397. Comment by Robbie | February 16th, 2009

     “And “Insidious” thinks he can write sarcasm”

     Err, what makes you think Insidious is one of the “drooblitiots”?

398. Comment by Visman | February 17th, 2009

     Cannot help to wonder where all hard Droobli believers are?

     Making money? The site has not pick up with any significance yet.

     All part of the growing up!

399. Comment by beavis | February 17th, 2009

     RE: “insidious”
     Robbie,
     insidious is not a drooblidiot. I glanced at his post and misinterpretted it. My apologies to insidious.

     Charlie ,

     umm. . . never mind.

400. Comment by Gene | February 18th, 2009

     Think of this as a wikipedia article? NO WAY, it’s scamapedia get it through your heads man. You guys are full of baloney.
     LOL Hey Charlie where are my tickets and you never sent a picture of the beach near your home?

401. Comment by Charlie | February 18th, 2009

     Good to hear from you Gene. The proof is in the pudding Big Guy, 3926 Mahinahina Avenue Lahaina, Hawaii 96761 any time you and anyone you bring are welcome. My # again is(808) 264-7114 LOL! (As you say) Once you’re here.

402. Comment by Gene | February 20th, 2009

     OK Charlie I will take that all down. I will
     Check it out on Map Quest to see how I can get
     there from Nebraska. LOL

403. Comment by beavis | February 20th, 2009

     Gene,

     You can always take the Droobli money train;I hear it even floats!

404. Comment by Charlie | February 20th, 2009

     I hear Nebraska is lovely this time of year.

405. Comment by Charlie | February 21st, 2009

     Boy did this site get lame. I think your 15 minutes is up on this deal.

406. Comment by beavis | February 22nd, 2009

     Oh, no, Charlie, you’re doing fine. . . please go on.

407. Comment by Charlie | February 22nd, 2009

     Hey Beavis Bite Me.

408. Comment by beavis | February 22nd, 2009

     Charlie,

     “Sticks and stones may break my bones but I’m Jesus.” Eric Cartman

409. Comment by Visman | February 23rd, 2009

     This is where I take my leave from here when Jesus is been brought in. Its a question of respect for what others believe and chose to believe.

     And I am getting into no discussion on this either. There is more than enough available on the net if anybody need more information.

     Cheers and Regards
     From a sunny and warm Pretoria

410. Comment by Insidious | February 23rd, 2009

     Do you respect atheists and agnostics, Visman?

411. Comment by SoCalConfused | February 23rd, 2009

     It took me over 2 hours pour through this thread after a long time friend of my husbands suggested GroobLi and I wanted to research the validity of the company. My husband has been unemployed since October (for the first time since working since he was eleven…YES, eleven.) and I have become unemployed as of February 1st for the first time too (We’re in our early 40’s). As Middle Class Americans, 2 kids, a mortgage and life, we are desperate. My comment here is…I can’t figure out who’s right in these blog postings! Eaglescout makes so many convincing points, yet, the GroobLi advocates make theirs as well. Bottom line…I am so damn confused.

     My parents have run a family owned and operated business since 1983 which was built from the ground up. They both came from nothing and made a very successful local business for 25 years…until now. Everything they worked for, they lost in 1.5 years. It breaks my heart to see them having to sell everything they invested in. I don’t want to make matters worse by investing money we don’t really have on some business that is a scam. I am really lost.

     Sorry…Chardonnay is coursing through my veins, but what I write is sincere!

412. Comment by SoCalConfused | February 23rd, 2009

     Damn…I wish I could edit my post for typos…lol (hic)

413. Comment by beavis | February 24th, 2009

     SoCalConfused,

     I have no vested interest in Droobli (thankfully). This jackass company is a thinly disguised pyramid scheme. Go to fbi.gov and you will get an education on scamming throughout the world (with a special focus on the U.S., but scamming is scamming no matter where it is done). The people that brag of their earnings in Droobli garnered the lion’s share from recruiting people like you. Go to droobli.com and count the number of successful auctions. The volume of sales is laughable. The big money is in recruiting people on the premise that if they recruit people who recruit people who recruit people, etc. then all will become fantastically wealthy. That is a pyramid. You may make money but you will only do so at the expense of others that are further down the pyramid. If you are too far down the pyramid yourself you will lose money. This is not going to be a very long lived pyramid because the auction product is not gaining traction in the US (their auction product is actually pretty retarded but the Drooblidiots who sign up are focused on the promises of riches and are not seeing what a ripoff the auction formula is). Do not be blinded by greed. Look at the so called product Droobli offers, look at the incredibly low volume of successful auctions and ask yourself if this is the next eBay or are these people lying to me to get my investment into a pyramid scheme. I have to give credit to the Nigerian scammers; at least they know they are scammers. The Drooblidiots think they have a legitimate business model.

414. Comment by SoCalConfused | February 24th, 2009

     Thank you Beavis…After reflecting on it (and now sober…lol) I can make a decision based on my intuition. It doesn’t feel right and therefore, I (we) won’t be paying a cent to GroobLi. I think you are very accurate when you state the obvious: The ones making money now are doing so due to greed and because they are higher in the Pyramid. It just doesn’t sit well with me. Best of luck to us all in this uncertain economy.

415. Comment by Gene | February 24th, 2009

     Could you tell me why you think it is greed for
     anyone to try to run an online store? There’s a
     lot of them out there you know. Is everyone greedy?
     Can’t someone try to make a living as a merchant?
     Just because those on the top make a lot of money how
     does the make them greedy? That’s pretty crazy reasoning.

416. Comment by dream team | February 24th, 2009

     First, who here on this site has personally spent time with CEO Bobby Jensen? Actually met him and been in meetings with him for days….?

     I have.

     Who here knows what the big picture and the vision of Droobli is? The reverse auction site is maybe 10% of what Droobli will be over the next 36 months. Slamming the idea of an auction site where aquiring the customers to drive down the price has not even occured yet, is a gun shot reaction without doing the homework to understand how this company is being launched.

     Does anyone here know how MCI or Sprint the phone companies launched?

     I do. Google it. Sprint, MCI, and MLM.
     I personally dont like typical MLM but that is why I love Droobli, it is customer based not forced distribution through some stupid autoship scheme where the biz peeps are the customers…..very very weak biz model indeed for long term income.

     Who here knows what Drooblimarketplace is?
     I do.
     You will after April 2009.

     Companies like Southwest Airlines, Best Buy,Macys and 500ish other major firms will be joining the Droobli concept. This is not a hope or a wish, it is reality. This concept covers about 25% of what Droobli really is after April……

     Who here knows how deep the pockets are of the worldwide investors of this Global Trading Portal are?
     I do.
     Oil tycoons, Bankers, investors, Realestate moguls.

     Who knows what assests they have, how they were aquired and where the idea of a worldwide online trading portal came from?
     I do.
     Lets just say money is not an issue. Droobli is not going away anytime soon.

     Who here is aware of the Corp kick off event and Press Release in April where billionare bankers, Investors and entertainers such as Jordan Sparks from American Idol will be performing to let USA know what Droobli is?
     I am.

     Who here has done real homework by getting on planes, leaving their families for days, to meeting with the leaders to get the real answers to serious questions?
     I have.

     I have enough facts about Droobli to tell you it is real, it will be a monster and in 6 months from now these same people that say companies like Droobli is a scam come from the same group that said MonaVie was a scam. If I were to post every last detail or fact of proof, the editors of this post just delete it as they have done in the past to me. I do not waste my time trying to convince people that profit in negative arenas like this but write all this to show a sense of reality to those that found themselves here in this bathroom stall on the net and might be on the fence about Droobli.

     Ever hear of the Firm Grimes and Reese?
     The same Attorney for MonaVie is the same Attorney for Droobli.

     Google them. They are no joke and they are not cheap.

     Companies like this oversee things like Comp plans and operating policies and procedures to ensure success with the FTC without breaking laws and being shut down like many new companies have been. IF Grimes and Reese dont like something Droobli is doing, Droobli changes their plan, plain and simple.
     Spencer Reese is no joke.

     Have you ever started a company and had to make changes during its creation?
     I have. (many many times)

     The same company McDonalds and 24Hr fitness hired to protect them against false claims made on trash can bathroom sites like this has also been hired by Droobli.

     I could go on for hours but at the end of the day we walk the walk and dont just talk the talk.

     We meet with literally hundreds of people every week and educate them on what is going to happen and what the vision of Droobli is.

     I dont take applications or try to persuade anyone to do anything. I merely present the facts in appointment only meetings and 80-90% of anyone that sees and hears the truth gets involved. Some as a side investment, some as a part time job like me, and some– all day full time.

     To make it very very simple, Droobli will be kinda like a mix between Ebay, Amazon, and Facebook. Analogy- Droobli will be to “Buy” what Google is to “Search”. Mom and pop shops will go away to some extent as online shopping is booming. (sad but true as I also own a mom and pop shop in OC) But to deny this reality is just stupid.

     When the company officially launches to aquire the customers in April 2009, everyone will know, the question is do you want to be in front of that wave or behind it?

     The excitement for the Auction site will totally change when literally millions of people check it out. Imagine 1000 people out of curiosity click a droobli credit to check a price of an iphone worth 400 dollars, thereby lowering the price by 250 dollars (1000 X .25 cents) and then some dude spends .80 cents to see the price with a real intent to buy it (not just curiosity of what the price is per say) and sees it is now at 150 bucks and hits the buy button! He gets an iphone for $150.80, brand new, in a box with a warrantee! DO you think he will tell 5 people? (virally spreading marketing) Droobli then gives him FREE Credits for sharing his experience and people in the biz get paid! He can use the credits to find the lowest price on 500 major stores in the blink of an eye when the droobli marketplace is launched and when he buys a drill from HomeDepot I get paid…..he also gets more free credits for buying through Droobli, kind of like points on a CC. The technology will be in his phone and the purchase can be made from there and shipped to his house!

     After 9 weeks I have made over 25k.
     Did you know that becuase I am in Droobli as a biz builder I have access (thanks to Jensen and his contacts in the world banking market) to a checking / savings acct that pays 8%??!!

     Thats right you heard me correctly. 8% bank account.

     As a 20 yr surfer I like being in front of a wave, April 2009 will be the start of a wave that will roll and gain momentum to the point that millionares will be born……….

     Author Rich Dad Poor Dad- “80% of future millionares will come from MLM”

     Spin Factor guys- enjoy your ride for now, come April it will be all over. Unless you are already a millionare now…..

     One thing I know at the end of the day, I dont take advice from people about a biz that make less money than I do or have never done it before. I own 6 compaines and that plan has served me very well.

     Thanks for your time.

     Droobli, Droobli, Droobli!
     we are having a blast, are you?
     Money Dont sleep…….lol.

417. Comment by Gene | February 25th, 2009

     Very good dream team I couldn’t have said it
     better myself!

418. Comment by Insidious | February 25th, 2009

     No, you couldn’t.

419. Comment by Insidious | February 25th, 2009

     Poor Jordan Sparks…

420. Comment by Insidious | February 25th, 2009

     “Dream team” totally got you this time Eaglez. Droobli will be great someday, just not anytime soon.

421. Comment by Gene | February 25th, 2009

     Insidious I don’t think you’ll be great any time soon.
     Better work on that!

422. Comment by dream team | February 25th, 2009

     Insidious, first- sweet name,
     Droobli is great now, and later. Droobli is like knowing what your gonna get for xmas but have to wait to open it up. Getting paid 25k for 8 weeks of part time work hardly constitutes as “just not anytime soon” for me. There is no better time than NOW to make this happen. Exponential Growth my friend, exponential profit.

423. Comment by beavis | February 26th, 2009

     Dreamteam,

     So where is all of this money supposedly going to appear from? Oh, wait, the idiot recruits because it sure isn’t coming from the lame auction traffic. I love the name dropping; the Nigerian scammers do it, too. You might want to start calling yourself “Barrister” or “Fund(s) Transfer Manager”.

     “Companies like Southwest Airlines, Best Buy,Macys and 500ish other major firms will be joining the Droobli concept.”

     What are you going to do, buy some $25 gift certificate from them to unload in your auction and then say you have a relationship? I’ll bet you dollars to donuts that if I call their corporate they won’t know a thing about Droobli.

     “Did you know that because I am in Droobli as a biz builder I have access (thanks to Jensen and his contacts in the world banking market) to a checking / savings acct that pays 8%??!! Thats right you heard me correctly. 8% bank account.”

     I love it. I did a couple of years with E.F. Hutton in the 80’s. We had this really aggressive account executive that was selling people government mutual funds and telling people that is was just like a checking account. Paid 11%!!! The clients weren’t told by him that there were early withdrawal fees and the net asset value would fluctuate. He was extremely successful until the State Securities investigators came calling. No one will give you 8% unless there is substantial risk attached and probably a substantial fee structure. It isn’t your connections; that’s bull. Why would a credit worthy institution pay your lowly ass 8% when the market is below 2%? Let me guess:

     A. Joining Droobli makes you so special that credit worthy institutions are willing to squander money by paying you way above market for the privilege of being your banker.

     B. You deposit US currency and they pay your interest in Droobli tokens.

     C. The transaction isn’t in US currency but it is in Russian rubles (lovely inflation this time of year).

     And I really like the part of dropping the attorney names. O.J. had some big name attorneys, too. In fact, my business attorney when I was 18 years old (yes, I had a business then) was now Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. I win! My former attorney has a bigger name then yours does!!!

     Oh, and the projections, the lovely Droobli projections. If they ever do another sequel of the Blues Brothers you should try out for the part of Jake Blues. Or perhaps as Hedley Lamarr in a Blazing Saddles remake. Either way, I think you could really give the characters some panache. “Exponential Growth my friend, exponential profit.” I just get the twitters thinking about it.

424. Comment by beavis | February 26th, 2009

     Oh, also:

     “Meanwhile, most of the million-strong sales team is really just drinking the juice, according to MonaVie’s 2007 income disclosure statement, a federally required printout of their distributor earnings. More than 90 percent were considered “wholesale customers,” whose earnings are mostly discounts on sales to themselves. Fewer than 1 percent qualified for commissions and of those, only 10 percent made more than $100 a week. And the dropout rate, while not disclosed by MonaVie, is around 70 percent, according to a top recruiter.” Newsweek

     Yeh, I feel there is a resemblance between Droobli and MonaVie; I just can’t put my finger on it.

425. Comment by Dream Team | February 26th, 2009

     Beavis,
     your right, I made all that up in an elaborate attempt to protect an even more elaborate scam. You got me! That OJ and EF Hutton arguement was so powerful.

     “What are you going to do, buy some $25 gift certificate from them to unload in your auction and then say you have a relationship? I’ll bet you dollars to donuts that if I call their corporate they won’t know a thing about Droobli.”

     No. Droobli will be offering those companies products, but not in the auction format, again- the auction is a very small part of what Droobli is. However, to use your form of logic, I bet rubles to pancakes if I call those Corps they wont know who Beavis is….lol.

     “I did a couple of years with E.F. Hutton in the 80’s.”

     when he talked did everyone listen? haha

     “most of the million-strong sales team is really just drinking the juice, according to MonaVie’s 2007 income disclosure statement”

     funny, I have that document in front of me now and cant find that comment….why are you trying to scam us, didnt you listen to EF Hutton? Here is where to find the IDS from MonaVie

     http://media.monavie.com/pdf/corporate/income_disclosure_statement.pdf

     whats tough for me is I cant take you seriously when the only thing I think about when i see Beavis is Butthead. The lies just add to the flavor I guess.

     Do your homework with then come back with some real points plz, not just weird spins.

     Thanks.

426. Comment by beavis | February 26th, 2009

     dreamteam,

     So let’s look through the BS and realize that you don’t currently have these products or relationships established (except the crappy auction format which is doing dog poop in volume). It’s all talk while the buy-in dollars are immediate and real. You have nothing but blue sky to sell that is not corroborated by any independent third parties. Did I miss anything?

     Oh, and here is the link with the quote from Newsweek – http://www.newsweek.com/id/150499

     That is very real (look to the bottom of page 1 for the quoted text). Keep calling me a liar and a scammer; I can and do back up everything I say and all you do is ignore the facts and the math (as simple as it is).

     Oh, and the MonaVie link you provided. An internally created flipping survey conducted by nameless? That is your response to the Newsweek article that referenced federally required disclosures? You truly take this audience for a bunch of fools.

     As far as my user name of “beavis”, well you would be a great “butthead”. Better yet, I’ll be “cornholio” and you can be a “bunghole” (I definitely need TP for my bunghole, now).

427. Comment by Visman | February 27th, 2009

     Insidious … it is not about persons. Its about choices and that does not mean I do not respect the person although I do not agree with the persons choice, I may still rspect the person.

     Like I said, not wanting to into a discusion on the topic here, therefore I will rest with the following:

     Do not get confused between Christianity and churchianity, since both appears to be the same it is not. Most of todays christianity should rather be called churchianity. Its a conterfeit of what true Christainity predicts to be, and a very good one at that. That is a study in its own righ, only knowledge will bring about the decernment.

     As for the rest most scams has always made money for some, more paricularly in the beginning. What promise will follow after April, more so reason for not coming to the table on the promises?

     There is only one seller of goods within Droobli with marketers selling licences (tokens) to maybe by the goods and licenses to sell licenses to do the same. Brilliant idee? You decide.

     Me be gone again … oh by the way the inquisitive in me got the better of me … Damn … LOL

     Regards
     Visman

428. Comment by beavis | February 28th, 2009

     Visman,

     You simply need to trust them. Give your money now and in the future they will make you rich. What’s three grand between friends? I know what you are thinking, “that’s how scammers operate; give us your money now and we’ll give you bazillions later”. Well, I happen to know that Dream Team and Co. are telling the truth because they said so. What more proof do you need? And if you need more (you silly doubter) I’m sure they have plenty of unsubstantiated hypothetical projections to back this up.

     Beavis

429. Comment by beavis | March 1st, 2009

     News Flash! Droobli US only does four successful auctions on February 28th, 2009. I have to say I think you guys suck and your product, the Droobli auction idea, is poo. Four auctions in a day; that is, in my opinion, pathetic. “The next eBay” my ass. Where do I sign up so I can get my share of the next greatest investment since Yahoo, Microsoft, and Wayne Enterprises? Did I mention Droobli US only did four successful auctions on the 28th? Did I mention that, in my humble opinion, that is , shall we say, sub par; below expectations; or, perhaps, pathetic? Oh, I’m sorry, I already said the auction volume was pathetic. Wait, wait, I know; one of you jackasses that is recruiting “business partners” will respond by saying that it’s all going to change in April. Terms like “explode” will be thrown around and other forms of hyperbole. Well, confirmed statistics, not BS projections by Drooblidiots, tell the truth. What does a measly four auctions in a day tell you about Droobli? Churn and burn, baby!

430. Comment by Mike B. | March 1st, 2009

     I have a friend of mine who has been trying to recruit me into Droobli for over 3 months, always tell him the same thing. I DON”T GET IT! Talked with him today about it, and of course he told me it’s getting ready to explode in the US market..
     Think he tries to recruit me because I have built 3 other MLM down lines in the last year and getting good residuals..My groups are almost to a 1,000 in each company. He tells me it is $895 to get involved with Droobli but they are lowering the price to $175! Guess they are not growing as fast as he claims in the US if they are lowering the price.

     So for anybody who joins good luck with it.

431. Comment by Gene | March 2nd, 2009

     That’s bogus Mike. Lowering the price, really!
     What you guys come up with here. Besides it is
     795 USD to start with the bronze package. Take a
     look at my pretty little site and get it together.
     Your buddy will pass you up if he sticks with it.

432. Comment by beavis | March 2nd, 2009

     Mike,

     Thats “795 USD” of tokens and blue sky.

     Gene,

     If I auctioned off the contents of my garage on eBay I’d generate more revenue than Droobli’s US auctions generate in a week. They talk of the millions invested in this operation. All I see is a website and a handful of stuff being auctioned. I hear rampant name dropping and grandiose plans but nothing to back it up but cheap talk. Droobli has millions laid out out? Where is the infrastructure? Show me. Show me something of substance besides this ridiculous rhetoric you stupid parrots keep repeating. You believers have become the ultimate Chatty Cathy dolls. Show me me something of substance like, dare I say, audited financials (and “no” I don’t care to see your pay stub for talking others into joining your fantasy world).

433. Comment by Gene | March 2nd, 2009

     beavis what do I need to show you anything for? And you might generate more revenue but are the auctions for revenue or for fun. You may just be the competition. Most surely.
     Whatever the 795 is they do the job. LOL Come one come all and join the auctions and see what savings and fun you’ll find.
     Better a parrot than a puppet. squawk.

434. Comment by doinghomeworkfirst | March 3rd, 2009

     Greetings,
     I am considering joining Droobli, and had a couple of questions. I have read the majority of the posts, but am certain I may have missed some of the information along the way.
     The questions I have are as follows:

     #1 – Does Droobli have an estimated date for making stock available in the U.S.?…is it currently available in Europe?

     #2 – I have read in the posts opinions regarding the founder and chief operators of Droobli both positive and negative. Are there any sources to back up the negatives that are written about these individuals?

     #3 – The term “illegal pyramid” has been used to describe Droobli. I want to know if this is also backed by fact, or is it simply the opinion of the host? Is it the conclusion of the host? If it is in fact illegal, why then has it not been shut down in other countries where it has been around for years? Additionally, why is it not already being shut down in the U.S.?

     #4 – Various claims have been made regarding the “staging” of the auctions on site so that Droobli reps and workers are the ones to get the items. Is there factual evidence to this?

     I have been approached by a very good friend who encouraged me to consider Droobli. I have not felt anyone misleading me regarding this opportunity, but I want to make sure I do my homework first. I have read the blog, and there are a lot of claims – both positive and negative.

     Please give me answers if you have them.

435. Comment by Felipe | March 3rd, 2009

     I do have one question. I’ve been viewing these threads almost all day and no one has made one mention of Christian Ellentoft character. I’ve looked up the website on the whois website and this is what shows up: http://www.who.is/whois-com/ip-address/droobli.com/

     if you type in us.droobli.com nothing shows but you can also note that when you enter it in your browser as droobli.com the site will automatically show up as us.droobli.com.

     I found this interesting and am curious to note that the BBB has nothing on this droobli company.

436. Comment by beavis | March 3rd, 2009

     doinghomeworkfirst

     Let’s address your four items one by one:

     1. I don’t mean to be blunt but asking anyone from Droobli if they are going to a stock offering is a waste of time. These people talk but little happens. When you see the filings you know that they are actually doing one. That is your only, I repeat only way of knowing that a stock offering will occur. And my two cents; don’t hold your breath.
     2.I can only judge the founder by the actions of his company. I personally think they are sociopaths.
     3.I’m not sure Droobli is an “illegal” pyramid but I’m really sure it is a “pyramid”. You can circumvent the law by adding in a product, no matter how pathetic and weak it is (like a lame reverse auction), and find yourself in compliance with the law. That doesn’t make it right but it could make it legal.
     4.It’s not important. They don’t sell enough in the US to be of any significance so if they scam an auction or two from their believers (the majority of bidders are Drooblidiots) I don’t really care and nor should you (I’m getting apathetic to the believers). The auction is a fools game.

     And finally, you’ve read all of these posts and you’re still thinking of joining? Most of the points made against Droobli don’t require investigation; just a reasonable grasp of basic math and a little common sense. Take your time, do the math on the auctions, realize that only a fool would bid them and then ask yourself if this is what you want to participate in.
     ______________________________________

     Gene,

     Hi Gene!

     Beavis

437. Comment by Skeptic (posting as Beavis) | March 3rd, 2009

     I joined 3 months ago and I’m beginning to see the light. We have a shopping portal that is gonna be big, which will include large department store chains. I think it’s a great opportunity and will be the next “on-line” fortune.

     Droobli is here to stay my friends!! Join now or later…your choice.

438. Comment by visman | March 3rd, 2009

     Gene you say …

     “During its tenure in Germany it has helped make millions for it’s associates.

     This company could very well eclipse eBay, Google and Amazon! Virtually every major online store will be linked with this trading portal. It’ll be global.

     Now it’s here, new to the United States, coming from Germany, a tested and true business model.
     It’s in fact the biggest thing since eBay. It is a ground floor opportunity and the sky is the limit. Working just the opposite of eBay auctions, called reverse auction, you might say this innovation could propel us into the next evolution of e-commerce which is happening in Germany and it’s likely to happen here.

     This is absolutely, a new business model. It’s truly unique!

     Step into the world of the Entrepreneur’s Dream”

     Now lets talk real business and you can test this one on any business man / woman:

     Lets see:

     financials, income and expence + the balance sheet;
     Sources of revenue;
     Goodwill;
     Client based numbers and turn over for the past three months;

     To name but a few …

     I am sure you will agree with me, I should not part with my money on promises only? That would be stupid would it not?

     As for Germany … just take a look at the sites. It speaks for itself.

     Forget about the negatives for a moment, show me the solid proof, not a bells and whistles website which anybody can create, even my 8 year old daughter.

     Proof to me I wont be a glorified salesman for a normal storefront with the only seller being Droobli, and not the oppertunity for whoever to auction their products. Its a storefront with very little turnover for how many Drooblis out there? The products are not the real income, and now you will say to me, “it will be soon”. Soon has come a long way now since 2003 / 2006 (what happend inbetween?).

     Proof me wrong, you are a business are you not? Or are you Drooblis business? A glorified sales person in their business?

     Don’t give me the crap of it will be.

     Audited financials and a liability statement that I can take you on with should your promises not deliver?

     Are we talking business?

     Regards

439. Comment by doinghomeworkfirst | March 3rd, 2009

     beavis,

     I appreciate your quick response. I have read most of the posts, and I do see a lot of posts against Droobli, but most of the posts are opinions, not facts.

     I looked at the math, but it doesn’t add up either against Droobli. After watching the presentation from a rep, they made it clear to me how the auctions work, as well as how the “credits” work.

     I can definately see how it could be very costly if you use a ton of credits, but I just don’t understand why anyone would go the route mentioned in spending so much.

     I am really “on the fence” at this point, and am just interested in facts.

     I know a lot of people have been burned in the past for MLM’s, and I understand any ill feelings that may be had…but, I would like to make a decision based on facts.

     I know there are a lot of negative comments against, but there are a ton of positives as well.
     I am curious to know if there are any factual resources to back up the many negative claims.

     I am not talking about “hypothetical claims” – which is what the money assumption was – depending on how many credits you spend vs. the lowest price given vs. how many people bid,etc.

     Just facts.

     I would be interested for the same from anyone in Droobli that says the company is the greatest. I am interested in factual evidence to back up both the positives and negatives.

     beavis-

     the evidence that has been given to me in favor of Droobli currently is more tangible than that against. My friends involved in it, who are contacting me, have actually already made money in a short time.

     Also, I am curious as to the validity of the claims that Droobli went bankrupt in Denmark. I followed the link provided by eaglescout, and the link was to a german site that amounted to nothing but a blog against them.

     Please share any more information you might have.

     Thanks

440. Comment by Gene | March 3rd, 2009

     Hey guys. This is just a blog for the owner to make money.
     It’s kind of like watching Jerry Springer. It’s just to grab your attention. They put two very good keywords together which get great results for them. If anyone wants the facts why not ask the company.
     Reps are just that reps. Salesman. Yup that’s me. Check my site and scroll to the bottom maybe that would be a bit of help to you doingyourhomeworkfirst. I don’t take the scouts here seriously and nobody should. Most of the time they’re incoherent. Don’t bark up the wrong tree or it may fall on you. Hey do you like my site Visman? Come back to it when you are ready to join. This month would be a very good time. You might notice these guys do their share to capitalize with their links just as I do. Eaglescout doesn’t mind me here he makes more money that way. Right eaglescout?

441. Comment by eaglescout | March 4th, 2009

     To Doing homework first,

     Greetings,
     I am considering joining Droobli, and had a couple of questions. I have read the majority of the posts, but am certain I may have missed some of the information along the way.
     The questions I have are as follows:

     #1 – Does Droobli have an estimated date for making stock available in the U.S.?…is it currently available in Europe?

     Santi Fuentes claimed it would be available in Europe almost four years ago.

     #2 – I have read in the posts opinions regarding the founder and chief operators of Droobli both positive and negative. Are there any sources to back up the negatives that are written about these individuals?

     Yes, of course, it depends on which “negatives” you are referring to. Which claims are you referring to?

     #3 – The term “illegal pyramid” has been used to describe Droobli. I want to know if this is also backed by fact, or is it simply the opinion of the host?

     Really? Who described GroobLi as an “illegal pyramid”? Are you sure you read the material presented here?

     Is it the conclusion of the host? If it is in fact illegal, why then has it not been shut down in other countries where it has been around for years? Additionally, why is it not already being shut down in the U.S.?

     Do you enjoy killing kittens as much as you enjoy asking loaded questions?

     #4 – Various claims have been made regarding the “staging” of the auctions on site so that Droobli reps and workers are the ones to get the items. Is there factual evidence to this?

     You are going to have to be more specific. Who made the claim, and what is the claim? There is evidence for some claims.

442. Comment by eaglescout | March 4th, 2009

     Also, I am curious as to the validity of the claims that Droobli went bankrupt in Denmark. I followed the link provided by eaglescout, and the link was to a german site that amounted to nothing but a blog against them.

     Have you checked the Danish public records?

443. Comment by eaglescout | March 4th, 2009

     Eaglescout doesn’t mind me here he makes more money that way. Right eaglescout?

     I do mind. Your posts rarely contribute to the topic at hand, except in the sense that they exemplify the MLM/GroobLi mindset.

444. Comment by eaglescout | March 4th, 2009

     First, who here on this site has personally spent time with CEO Bobby Jensen? Actually met him and been in meetings with him for days….?

     I have.

     Isn’t this the part where you explain why this matters?

     Companies like Southwest Airlines, Best Buy,Macys and 500ish other major firms will be joining the Droobli concept. This is not a hope or a wish, it is reality. This concept covers about 25% of what Droobli really is after April……

     In other words, there is no point to joining GroobLi until after April?

     Who here knows how deep the pockets are of the worldwide investors of this Global Trading Portal are?
     I do.
     Oil tycoons, Bankers, investors, Realestate moguls.

     I’m still wondering why that matters. Donald Trump sells bottled water, but I’m not going to buy it just because he is rich.

     Who knows what assests they have, how they were aquired and where the idea of a worldwide online trading portal came from?
     I do.
     Lets just say money is not an issue. Droobli is not going away anytime soon.

     GroobLispeak for “stay tuned” and have faith in the GroobLi religion.

     Who here is aware of the Corp kick off event and Press Release in April where billionare bankers, Investors and entertainers such as Jordan Sparks from American Idol will be performing to let USA know what Droobli is?
     I am.

     Naturally nobody has read April’s Press Release, because it won’t be released until April. Except for you because you won a time machine awarded by GroobLi this coming May.

     Who here has done real homework by getting on planes, leaving their families for days, to meeting with the leaders to get the real answers to serious questions?
     I have.

     Apparently you have. Others found inexpensive ways to research GroobLi, such as reviewing the business model, and acquiring information from multiple sources.

     I have enough facts about Droobli to tell you it is real, it will be a monster and in 6 months from now these same people that say companies like Droobli is a scam come from the same group that said MonaVie was a scam.

     Well, GroobLi is not fake – the Denmark bankruptcy is clear on that.

     If I were to post every last detail or fact of proof, the editors of this post just delete it as they have done in the past to me.

     We did censor some potentially copyrighted information in one of your posts and marked it as such. Sorry about that. However, we did not delete any evidence or “fact of proof” regarding GroobLi. Feel free to post *any* factual information relevant to GroobLi’s legitimacy already, preferably in the form of rebuttals.

     I do not waste my time trying to convince people that profit in negative arenas like this but write all this to show a sense of reality to those that found themselves here in this bathroom stall on the net and might be on the fence about Droobli.

     Negative? I suppose fact that GroobLi went bankrupt in Denmark may be negative to you; but it’s a relief to the 99% of GroobLi business associates who won’t be breaking even.

     Ever hear of the Firm Grimes and Reese?
     The same Attorney for MonaVie is the same Attorney for Droobli.

     Google them. They are no joke and they are not cheap.

     Yes. Did you know criminals have the right to an attorney in the United States? Did you know you can have attorneys and break the law simultaneously? There is no law of physics that prevents that from happening.

     Companies like this oversee things like Comp plans and operating policies and procedures to ensure success with the FTC without breaking laws and being shut down like many new companies have been. IF Grimes and Reese dont like something Droobli is doing, Droobli changes their plan, plain and simple.
     Spencer Reese is no joke.

     Ever hear of Osama Bin Laden or Adolf Hitler? They are no joke.

     Have you ever started a company and had to make changes during its creation?
     I have. (many many times)

     GroobLi has made a few changes for the better. Nevertheless, the false advertising remains their signature. All they need is smart promoters like you to advertise hope with their brand and take advantage of suggestible and needy people like Gene.

     The same company McDonalds and 24Hr fitness hired to protect them against false claims made on trash can bathroom sites like this has also been hired by Droobli.

     As I mentioned before, this isn’t relevant. Beavis alluded to OJ quite appropriately.

     I could go on for hours but at the end of the day we walk the walk and dont just talk the talk.

     We meet with literally hundreds of people every week and educate them on what is going to happen and what the vision of Droobli is.

     I dont take applications or try to persuade anyone to do anything. I merely present the facts in appointment only meetings and 80-90% of anyone that sees and hears the truth gets involved. Some as a side investment, some as a part time job like me, and some– all day full time.

     Nice anecdote. We both know this is extremely unrealistic and atypical of any rational person making any investment, especially when buying into a ridiculous and intentionally confusing model like GroobLi’s. You are a smart guy, so you know that 99% of the people you are recruiting will lose most of their investment to you and to GroobLi.

     To make it very very simple, Droobli will be kinda like a mix between Ebay, Amazon, and Facebook. Analogy- Droobli will be to “Buy” what Google is to “Search”.

     Oh, are you saying that GroobLi will take on a completely different business model compared to the current one? If so, why are you worried about my observations and evidence regarding GroobLi’s history?

     Mom and pop shops will go away to some extent as online shopping is booming. (sad but true as I also own a mom and pop shop in OC) But to deny this reality is just stupid.

     This has been happening for a while and it had nothing to do with GroobLi…

     When the company officially launches to aquire the customers in April 2009, everyone will know, the question is do you want to be in front of that wave or behind it?

     What? They are going to launch “officially” again for the 5th or 6th time?

     The excitement for the Auction site will totally change when literally millions of people check it out. Imagine 1000 people out of curiosity click a droobli credit to check a price of an iphone worth 400 dollars, thereby lowering the price by 250 dollars (1000 X .25 cents) and then some dude spends .80 cents to see the price with a real intent to buy it (not just curiosity of what the price is per say) and sees it is now at 150 bucks and hits the buy button! He gets an iphone for $150.80, brand new, in a box with a warrantee! DO you think he will tell 5 people? (virally spreading marketing) Droobli then gives him FREE Credits for sharing his experience and people in the biz get paid! He can use the credits to find the lowest price on 500 major stores in the blink of an eye when the droobli marketplace is launched and when he buys a drill from HomeDepot I get paid…..he also gets more free credits for buying through Droobli, kind of like points on a CC. The technology will be in his phone and the purchase can be made from there and shipped to his house!

     GroobLi is not an auction site… it’s a lottery and gambling site; the scenario you offered is great for the “one dude”; however GroobLi doesn’t make enough money from it in practice because the iPhone will be bought long before the price reaches 150 dollars. If GroobLi can’t make money from that lottery, then GroobLi can’t offer commissions to the “business associates” involved in the transaction. If GroobLi pays the commissions anyway, then they will be borrowing money from the sale of ad packages, which would mean the profit comes from speculation and licenses, but not from any real product.

     After 9 weeks I have made over 25k.
     Did you know that becuase I am in Droobli as a biz builder I have access (thanks to Jensen and his contacts in the world banking market) to a checking / savings acct that pays 8%??!!

     Thats right you heard me correctly. 8% bank account.

     As a 20 yr surfer I like being in front of a wave, April 2009 will be the start of a wave that will roll and gain momentum to the point that millionares will be born……….

     Out of curiosity what service or product will these “millionaires” be offering?

     Author Rich Dad Poor Dad- “80% of future millionares will come from MLM”

     Robert Kiyosaki’s advice is the equivalent of Kevin Trudeau’s – Author of Cures they don’t want you to know about. Filler Trash.

     Kiyosaki is a motivational speaker who, “According to Reed, much of Kiyosaki’s advice is illegal, makes no sense or is the product of ‘a rather ignorant, not very bright, novice, investor wannabe.’ [15] He concludes his criticism, saying that ‘Rich Dad, Poor Dad is one of the dumbest financial advice books I have ever read. It contains many factual errors and numerous extremely unlikely accounts of events that supposedly occurred.’”

445. Comment by doinghomeworkfirst | March 4th, 2009

     eaglescout:

     Again, I appreciate the quick response to my questions, but they seem to be left unanswered. I do not understand the reasoning for the extreme sarcasm you use when challenged with a question for factual evidence. I have spoken neither positively nor negatively regarding Droobli, simply looking for all perspectives before I would venture into this type of business.
     As I have read your posts in particular, it seems as though your biggest objection to Droobli is that you feel the site is a “gambling” site, or a site left to chance, and that those advertising the site/business opportunity are deceiving those that they are seeking to recruit. Is this appropriate for me to conclude?
     I would agree with you that if deception is being displayed and used, it is in fact shameful on the the part of the associate seeking to use it. But, I have been presented this business, and the individual(s) who have presented it to me have been very upfront about how the auctions work, as well as how all of the Droobli credits work. I see no hidden “earmarks” in their presentation to me.

     Maybe the focus of your objections should be directed at the individual business members in Droobli that are seeking to scam someone by covering up facts, and not necessarily on the business itself.
     I know the friends I have in this business are very much people of integrity, and would not seek to purposely be a part of something unethical or illegal. They have no reason to “pull the wool over my eyes” because they are already doing very well financially from other business ventures.

     Let us remember that in every legitimate business or opportunity there will be those who seek to abuse their position for their own good. But that doesn’t necessarily make the entire company, or all that are in that company corrupt. That is just illogical to think so.

446. Comment by Gene | March 4th, 2009

     Eaglescout you better shut down this blog you are wasting
     too much of everyone’s time. You capitalize just because you lucked out with a couple of keywords. I just spend a little time here to show how foolish your arguments are. You have as I have said in the past have no real arguments against the company. You just keep spinning scamapedia. Join the company man. Why now? Why not? The topic at hand. LOL

447. Comment by Skeptic (pretending to be eaglescout) | March 4th, 2009

     I would like to retract all the negative post about Droobli. I met with a credible business partner of mine and he convinced me Droobli is a legitimate business. So, I’ve gotta eat crow and say, “I was wrong”.

     I think Droobli is a great opportunity and encourage others to join…If they want to make some money.

448. Comment by beavis | March 4th, 2009

     doinghomeworkfirst,

     We run into “vics” like you with the Nigerian “lads” on a regular basis; you just want to believe so bad. Whether it is a “lotto you just won” or the “trunk box full of cash you need to pick up from the security company”, you refuse to believe the money is not there. I think you’re going to sign up, part with the cash and have to learn it the hard way. Here is the facts, short and oh so bloody simple; Droobli auction traffic is minuscule; the revenue comes from new recruits; if you don’t believe the auction traffic is ridiculously low go to their site and add up (this is where the basic math comes in) the number of successful auctions per day. Now here is where it gets tricky; you have to realize that because very little revenue is generated from the auctions, you have to make the big leap in logic to realize it comes from new sign ups (like you are going to be). You are, therefore, aside from the stupid auction business model, signing up to have the license to sell licenses for the purpose of selling licenses – a very nice modified p y r a m i d (I typed this slow with extra spaces to let it sink in and for dramatic emphasis). If you don’t know the ramifications of pyramid schemes you need to research that instead of Droobli. There, the necessary facts you need to make the right decision are in front of you; good luck.

     Beavis

     Oh, here is a nice definition of a pyramid scheme from Wikipedia:

     “A pyramid scheme is a non-sustainable business model that involves the exchange of money primarily for enrolling other people into the scheme, often without any product or service being delivered.”

449. Comment by doinghomeworkfirst | March 5th, 2009

     beavis,

     thanks for showing your intelligence (or lack there of) and “wit” in your last post. I am so surprised at the personal level of vindictiveness (look it up if you don’t know what it means) that you have demonstrated against GroobLi. You are completely off on how the money works and is made in GroobLi. I attended another seminar (for free mind you) regarding this business, and it appears that you have no idea how the money really works.

     I again, do not understand the “attitude” you seem to display in your postings, but I can tell you that because of the potential that appears to be present, the investment is totally worth the “risk” if you call it that.

     Think of any investment you might make, there is always a risk. Stock market, housing, etc. So, if GroobLi does do what it claims it will, there is a ton of money to be made.

     But, even if it doesn’t, the “risk” is worth it.

     I think I am going to sign up, mainly do to the fact that all of the negatives that have been posted seem to be unfounded, and bases on your’s and other’s opinions, not on facts. You seem to be making claims about that which you really yourself don’t get.

     How can I be a victim, if I know the “risk” up front? I’d be curious to know your answer on that.

     Take care.

450. Comment by Ryan | March 5th, 2009

     this is a fave.

     i think what is going on here is tantamount to threshing wheat, seperating logical thinkers from emotional, illogical people.

     it is interesting to watch the type of comment that is made by an anti droobli person vs. a pro droobli person. it starts to shed light on how a pyramid scheme (or late night infomercial, DVDs on how to get RICH QUICK, telemarketers etc) are able to exist. i alway thought that these things would go away because people weren’t dumb enough to become involved.

     but then. you see things like this:

     ” think I am going to sign up, mainly do to the fact that all of the negatives that have been posted seem to be unfounded, and bases on your’s and other’s opinions, not on facts ”

     and you realize. not everyone gets to have a logical, useful brain inside their skulls. what’s really amazing is that when Droobli gets them, they’ll be first in line for the next wave. depositing checks for strangers, keeping 10% for themselves and whatnot.

     rk

451. Comment by Ryan | March 5th, 2009

     oh! and doing homework first: you are a victim the same way a teenager is a victim of statuatory rape…you lack the facilities to make a good decision for yourself.

452. Comment by Gene | March 5th, 2009

     rk,

     So what’s wrong with an infomercial, DVDs on how to get RICH QUICK, telemarketers etc)? Do you want to get rich s_l_o_w? Maybe you don’t want to get rich at all. Maybe you wouldn’t use the money right. People need to make a living don’t they and all they are doing is marketing? Don’t you believe in marketing? What do you do for a living? You have the faculties of a scamapediac like some of the others here. Get your head on straight.
     NOBody has given anyone any real good reasons not to be in the company and we have given plenty of good reasons to. The auctions are the niche that powers the online store where most of the money will be made and beavis saying that the auctions are minuscule is pretty stupid reasoning for you avoid the fact that the company is still rolling out. You make it sound like it’t a done deal and all here now operating at 100%. Fallacy upon fallacy. We are still developing the sales force. And you guys aren’t any help. My my! Check it out two years from now and then see what you think. Equating Networkmarketing with a pyramid is an old trick. Let’s get into this century.
     Just a blog here. Jerry Springer’s corner. LOL
     Are we making a lot of money for you eaglescout?

453. Comment by doinghomeworkfirst | March 5th, 2009

     Ryan,

     You have demonstrated your foolishness in your words. Comparing a business opportunity to a rape victim is just irresponsible. Comparing your language and choice of wording in your posts verses the choice of wording and logic in mine, it is obvious who has the lack of mental capacity.
     As far as the business opportunity goes, there is no being “tricked” in it. I know how much it is going to cost me to try it, and therefore I know exactly how much I could stand to lose. I am sorry that you cannot understand that. Try harder, and maybe you’ll make progress on that.

     Just curious Ryan, based upon your “intelligent” thoughts and posts, as well as your “amazing” analogy to compare this business model with, what is it you do for a living?

     Where do you get your “smarts” on business models? Financial wisdom? Just curious when you became an expert for everyone else.

     I am interested to hear back from you, although I am guessing I either won’t, or that your response will be nothing short of ridiculous.

     Best of luck to you in “your world”.

     And again – thanks for being an expert for the rest of us.

454. Comment by Charlie | March 5th, 2009

     I think Ryan and Beavis live in their Mother’s Basement and use a lot of hand lotion, pure Genius!

455. Comment by Gene | March 5th, 2009

     LOL that’s pretty good Charlie. How ya doing?

456. Comment by Ryan | March 6th, 2009

     i merely noted the clear difference between posts of the pro and anti droobli bloggers.

     i think it is clear to most people that droobli is a pyramid. i sat through the webinar. i used my “free tokens.”

     i am not an expert in finance or business. my passion is actually language as it relates to sociology – which is the point of my post.

     i’m wrong a lot, and i hope y’all don’t disappear come april. when droobli does its mass media blitz they promised in the webinar, and market share is stolen from amazon and ebay, i will rescind the slant.

     the basic idea will remain the same: there is a notable difference in the way pro/anti droobli people communicate on this and other sites.

     lastly, i’m not here to post my resume. you can take my comments on their own merit, or not.

457. Comment by Ryan | March 6th, 2009

     charlie -
     i’m a dry man most of the time. it evolved that way over time. not sure if it’s better or if i just got tired of the mess. did you really want to talk about my masturbation habits?
     ryan

458. Comment by Gene | March 6th, 2009

     That’s pretty crude there Ryan. I hope Charlie wasn’t referring to your practice. It’s pretty clear your not with
     the times though. Nope, just in a fantasy land. Hey take a look at my site and step into reality.

459. Comment by Charlie | March 6th, 2009

     We’re all guilty Ryan, No worries,

460. Comment by Ryan | March 6th, 2009

     gene – to what do you think he was referring?

461. Comment by beavis | March 7th, 2009

     “Ryan,

     You have demonstrated your foolishness in your words. Comparing a business opportunity to a rape victim is just irresponsible.” doingmy”ho”work

     Well, seems like someone is on a mission to become a “lad”.

     “Lad” Wikipedia definition: “Lad, a nickname for a scammer in scam baiting. Especially for a scammer from Lagos, Nigeria”

     Ever thought of moving to Nigeria, doingmy”ho”work?

     By the way, I’m a full blown, experienced, honest to God scam baiter (look up the definition). I hate you MF’s and I do everything to put your scams down. You are no vic; your one of them, and I don’t discriminate; whether you are a Nigerian lotto lad, a Ghanaian phone lad or a Russian sex lad(ette), I’ll screw with your business operations at every opportunity, I’ll burn your resources, shut down your bank accounts, educate your victims and get your ass arrested anytime I can. Oh, and I totally enjoy my work. You are my hobby.

462. Comment by Fox | March 7th, 2009

     I was very excited from watching Droobli webinar yesterday.

     However, my excitement dropped somewhat when he started to talk about payments I have to make just to participate in his program (starting with $800!). Why should I have to pay him? Should I have to pay HIM for advertising HIS products? For example, internet business giants such as eBay, Amazon, Friend Finder, and CJ have affiliate programs and they’re FREE. What you have to do is just put their advertisement on your website and they will pay you some percent of their profit. The system Droobli describes where you have to pay some fee for just participating in the project is a MLM (Multi-Level Marketing) system. What I do not like about MLM is that mostly they are not interested in selling a good product to the customer. They simply do not need to care about it because they have already had their profit from members of the MLM pyramid. There is no doubt that they will make good money and it is possible to earn some money with them, but it is risky. These days with a bad economic situation I do not think that people are willing to pay much money for anything, so it would not be easy to acquire more new members. I do not trust them at all.

463. Comment by Charlie | March 7th, 2009

     Wow Beavis! You sound so scary like Clint Eastwood, I got shivers from your speech, your obvious superior intellect seperates you from the rest of us, but lighten up dude, you’ll be amazed at what seeing a grown woman naked will do for all that rage. All in good fun!

464. Comment by Charlie | March 7th, 2009

     We use a little something called Maui Wowie over here.

465. Comment by Fox | March 7th, 2009

     Poor Charlie. I pity you. I’m just a student of art and not all that familiar with computers but I was able to understand that Droobli is just MLM and I was smart enough not to participate in this ridiculous program. Your problem is that you’re angry with yourself for being fooled by Droobli. Stop babbling and shut up. PLEASE.

466. Comment by Gene | March 7th, 2009

     Do you think it was a metaphor Ryan? Maybe a little more than face value! Do you know what that is?
     Do you know what a fantasy is? Stop living with your ill conceived concepts of an online store. But hey Charlie will be Charlie.
     Seriously we’ve got a great company and basically it’s an online store. With any store you need customers. They’ve figured a way to draw customers and have them keep coming back with the auctions. Buying the credits are a given to power your biz. Yes you pay for them and recoup your investment once they are sold to your customers. Also it helps jump start the sales force which could be you. With the income potential here do you seriously think you could get into business without any expenditure. That’s a fantasy. Now if your not willing to put out and do this business to acquire customers and other sales reps you’re not one to be in a business for yourself so you may have to get a job or work for someone else. Hey let’s bring it up a few notches. But now if you understand what I’m saying, your best bet is to come in as Gold. You get a 50% discount on your credits. You’ll make more then when you sell them.

     Now think about this working for you. You’re going to make more money in your store or shop or marketplace than you will with the auctions and no credits are needed to purchase in the store. But if you don’t have any customers what good will it do? Don’t you think that the auctions will have any pulling power for customers? It’s been proven they have. Also if as seen in Germany one customer typically invites five and they invite five and so on with this viral action. I mean look at it. This little blog won’t stop it.

     Who knows if we really have any viable quires here anyway.

     Of course this is still a blog or Jerry’s corner. Scamapedia. LOL Are you making any money eaglescout?

467. Comment by Charlie | March 8th, 2009

     Fox, I’m usually drunk by 12:30 p.m so Babbling is all I’m good at, as far as your pity, I have enough self pity to last a life time, but Thank You for your Empathy, I love You.

468. Comment by The Smart Skeptic | March 9th, 2009

     http://www.smartwinshop.com/
     Investing in this?
     Be smarter than that:
     Here is the “who is” for above promo site url for potential investors; not too impressive for confidence level:
     Registrant:
     Kate Davis
     17005 SE 28th Street
     Vancouver, Washington 98683
     United States

     Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
     Domain Name: SMARTWINSHOP.COM
     Created on: 09-Sep-08
     Expires on: 09-Sep-09
     Last Updated on: 09-Sep-08

     Administrative Contact:
     Davis, Kate sdavis40@gmail.com
     17005 SE 28th Street
     Vancouver, Washington 98683
     United States
     (360) 828-8381 Fax —

     Technical Contact:
     Davis, Kate sdavis40@gmail.com
     17005 SE 28th Street
     Vancouver, Washington 98683
     United States
     (360) 828-8381 Fax —

     Domain servers in listed order:
     NS.MYSHOPPINGCOMMUNITY.COM
     NS2.MYSHOPPINGCOMMUNITY.COM

469. Comment by smart skeptic | March 9th, 2009

     Is this a joke?
     Droobli promotional page http://www.smartwinshop.com
     “who Is”

     Registrant:
     Kate Davis
     17005 SE 28th Street
     Vancouver, Washington 98683
     United States

     Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
     Domain Name: SMARTWINSHOP.COM
     Created on: 09-Sep-08
     Expires on: 09-Sep-09
     Last Updated on: 09-Sep-08

     Administrative Contact:
     Davis, Kate sdavis40@gmail.com
     17005 SE 28th Street
     Vancouver, Washington 98683
     United States
     (360) 828-8381 Fax —

     Technical Contact:
     Davis, Kate sdavis40@gmail.com
     17005 SE 28th Street
     Vancouver, Washington 98683
     United States
     (360) 828-8381 Fax —

     Domain servers in listed order:
     NS.MYSHOPPINGCOMMUNITY.COM
     NS2.MYSHOPPINGCOMMUNITY.COM

470. Comment by Felipe | March 9th, 2009

     To eaglescout and anyone who takes the time to read this,

     I have a few questions in regards to your sources for the bankruptcy of Droobli in denmark. I did go to the link you provided and was wondering how you were able to access that information. Or more specifically, how you were able to get to that source.

     second, I did another search on that website under “droobli” and had two sources come up. One was the one you linked to and the second was the droobli center, from what I understand, it is still running. http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cvr.dk%2FSite%2FForms%2FPublicService%2FDisplayCompany.aspx%3Fcvrnr%3D28323611&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=da&tl=en

     You will also note that it was opened in February of 2008.
     Are they affiliated? I’m still wondering why no one commented on my last statement (post 435).

     Here are some statistics on web hits: http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/eu.droobli.com

     As you’ll note, I did a search on the European website which boasts to be widely used and you’ll see that it is about 25,000 per week. Sounds good except you need the fact that this is a list for 6 sites they have interlinked. Here are the break down percentages:
     #us.droobli.com – 65.9%
     # eu.droobli.com – 22.6%
     # shopping.droobli.com – 8.3%
     # shops.droobli.com – 1.5%
     # shopsolution.droobli.com – 1.1%
     # my.droobli.com – 0.5%

     As you may note, the smallest percentage is in the shopping and the US boasts more clicks than the EU. That raises a huge concern.

     I also used another service called quantcast which tracks a pretty large plethora of web informatics: http://www.quantcast.com/droobli.com#traffic
     link above is the traffic
     eu website has no information even though it is identical to the us version: http://www.quantcast.com/profile/no-data-for-site?domain=eu.droobli.com
     And here is the summary: http://www.quantcast.com/droobli.com/traffic/sites#summary

     As you will note it specifically says that the data is rough. I want to note this because if you were a company and your main approach was “viral marketing” then you would be smart enough to make sure that all these data gathering websites had your info so people could see accurate website traffic information.

     Do you know how to track financial records regarding this company in Europe? (this is an actual question because I would love to look into it further)

     As you can tell, and I hope most on this site that stumble this post that droobli has many red flags against it’s reputation. If they can address this issues great, but my suspicions is that it will not be addressed.

     As a side note to those who are involved with droobli. Why would you invest so much money into a website that doesn’t even have enough visits to bring YOU revenue? And as you can tell neither do there European counterparts because they just jumble stats from 6 different sites…

     I’m done, for now.

471. Comment by Gene | March 9th, 2009

     Nope smart skeptic, it’s not a joke, it’s going to be big. Let me help you join. Although I would say that the auctions will help generate customers for our store where most of the revenue is to be made.

472. Comment by sick of negativity | March 9th, 2009

     just to let you know Ebay and Amazon are not found on SEC either…and if Droobli is such a scam why is ebay and amazon affliated with it in it’s shopping portals?? You trust them don’t you?
     As to Fox…you purchase a business licence through Droobli to make your money…you can’t make money if you don’t own a business. Don’t be fooled either with Ebay, Amazon and other websites-they make money and they cost money. The Average Joe might not think so but it does. How else would it stay in business? Look at Facebook-it’s free to use yet the kid who invented it made a fortune.
     Businesses are always risky-if it’s not for you then move on but don’t slam it because you couldn’t get it to work.

     To Felipe
     Most people are investing in the next global shopping portal because they know they are going to recieve money. They have seen it!! People have been paid and are still collecting money EVERY month. Some people are skeptical and that’s good. They need to know and understand the functions of Droobli. IT’s not for everyone. I know people who needed to be persauded by seeing the actual form of payment. Wouldn’t you be tempted to see a $5000 paycheck in 4 weeks…with more to come as the company grows???

     To Beavis
     “A pyramid scheme is a non-sustainable business model that involves the exchange of money primarily for enrolling other people into the scheme, often without any product or service being delivered.”

     You are quoting a definition to support your argument but it doesn’t work out for you…the last part here-”often without product or service being delivered” There is product and it is delivered. They can even show you to whom and for how much. I suppose you ( an average joe)would need the purchasers permission to contact them and survey their experience just like you would be able to do to customers on Ebay, Amazon, Walmart websites and so on…for all we know they could be lying too???right…

     This is NEW to North America. It hasn’t lauched yet. Everyone who knows about it is mostly from word of mouth. 6 months in Europe it grew to 3 million users. It is already produced a trail of confirmed success. It only takes time to come to it’s full potiental. Jordin Sparks and Simon Cowell are involved. Don’t you think their people did research and have more resources at their disposal besides “Spinfactor”?

     Whomever wrote the article has misleading facts or has distorted the truth to fit their agenda. If you want to see real answers and information instead of believing a website which also promotes “Alien Babies” contact shopcheapteam@live.ca

473. Comment by beavis | March 10th, 2009

     Felipe,

     Droobli U.S. has 65.9% of the total Droobli traffic? And the US is sucking wind for Droobli (at least as far as successful auctions are concerned). I looked at the successful auctions in the U.S. and the figures were dismal; like, they really sucked. I hope you continue to question Droobli and these jackasses that blindly promote it. Hard figures will get through to the less gullible; hopefully before they get their “gold” membership for $3,000 (what a waste).

     sick of negativity,

     I think you should buy two gold memberships; you can make twice as much money! Oh, and what part of Droobli’s dismal weekly auction figures allowed you to arrive at the conclusion that Droobli has a viable product that excludes it from being a pyramid? I suppose if they auctioned one yoyo in a year you would exclude it from the pure pyramid definition. Keep trying to recover that $3,000 “investment” you made in this dog, sucker!

474. Comment by Gene | March 10th, 2009

     beavis did you say something?
     If you’re going to have an online store, how do you plan on bringing customers? Well here’s the solution. Have auctions where the prices go down. We have three different auctions. This is our niche our hook our gimmick to help you grow a strong productive online business for the future. Check it out. The price in one auction goes down to nothing. We know this works because it has already been done in Germany and has been launched this past October 2008. We are working off of their success. This will be worldwide in many languages. You don’t have to handle any products. You don’t need any merchant accounts. No shipping. Droobli does it all for you. You just begin acquiring your customers and associates. You’d have to do that in any online store. Oh and once you get your customers they are yours for life and typically they bring in at least five more customers for you who bring in five and so on.

475. Comment by beavis | March 10th, 2009

     Gene,

     And I suppose your definition of success would be the current approximate twelve successful auctions per day that Droobli US manges to ooze out. Go Dumbli!

476. Comment by mikeZ | March 11th, 2009

     Ok eagle you make alot of claims that Droobli is a scam. I am not involved with Droobli in any way but I have been asked to join to the network buy credits etc.. I have been spending time looking at this. I find that I cannot find any articles about this company from an independant source. The web is full of spam about the company. Not good. But when you say you cant see how money is made on this site I do not understand.

     In the Xpress section

     Lets say you have a product that costs $100.00 The bids moves down in .25 increments and it costs .80 to move that bid. it moves down to $50.00 someone pays that price you now have monies equal to $160 (.80 x 200) plus $50 to buy the product. Thats $210.00 for a $100 product.

     The other two sctions of Droobli are gambling but it is what it is the xpress section gets the most play.

     My other issue is Droobli has major retail products on there site. The products they “auction” are from some of the biggest fortune 500 companies in the world. Why are they allowing there products being sold on this site? Amazon and Avis advertise on the site

477. Comment by Charlie | March 11th, 2009

     Aloha MikeZ! You definately came to the right place we have all the Droobli experts here. Just do whatever Beavis tells you to, he’s like some sort of Droobli Phenom, the best we can measure his IQ is like 180 or something, He’s a heavy dude.

478. Comment by Gene | March 11th, 2009

     beavis is that what it is? get smart they go allllll day and alllll night. Course you have more braids than I do.
     But this is just a blog. Eaglescout how’s the cash flow?

479. Comment by Beavis | March 11th, 2009

     I would like to report in with Droobli’s successful auction figures for its US site for 3/10/09. That figure is. . . um. . . well . . . there isn’t anything to. . . um. . . report; how curious. Did Droobli take the day off? Were their offices closed for a holiday? I don’t understand. Not one successful auction; zero; zip; nada. Oh, well, I’m sure Amazon and eBay didn’t fair any better. . . of course, they couldn’t really have faired any worse. I’ll go take a look. Oh, wow, eBay sold some stuff. . . lot’s of stuff. I just don’t know what to make of this. Maybe you should sub out the selling part to a Girl Scout troup; they kick ass with those cookies and they could surly beat Droobli’s current weekly volume.

480. Comment by Charlie | March 11th, 2009

     I told you guys! Beavis is so deep!

481. Comment by Charlie | March 11th, 2009

     To even imagine we could possibly compete with him is ridiculous, he actually once posted he was Jesus and I think he may be. Beavis BEAVIS Beavis!!!

482. Comment by Charlie | March 11th, 2009

     Once there was a man named Beavis, Beavis Beavis Beavis, what a Wanker!! Remember my address? It’s posted,

483. Comment by beavis | March 12th, 2009

     Charlie,

     “Wanker”? If you are going to be a scammer you have to learn to insult like one, like this Nigerian fake barrister here:

     “YOU ARE GOING STUPID , ARE YOU OUT OF YOU MIND ? YOU FOOLISH WHITE MONKEY AND YELLOW PIG.”- Barrister Isa Usm4n

     or my favorite:

     “if you have no better things to do its better you hang your self, you bastard junkie” Chris McKy

     Otherwise, if you run around calling out “wanker” you won’t be able to stand with the others and you will be considered a “little boi” (not a good thing in West Africa). Now give it another try, mugu.

484. Comment by Matty | March 12th, 2009

     Hey beavis,

     your an idiot.

     Of course not a lot of stuff is sold on the US Droobli site. It hasn’t even lauched you retard.

     Right now people are getting in and buying the licenses because once it “launches” the consumer base will go up. Get your shit right before you start saying stuff man.

     you make me laugh, if you knew anything about network marketing or the internet you would have realized whats actually happening. Ciao

485. Comment by eaglescout | March 12th, 2009

     Hey Matty,

     Please reference comment #9 regarding “launching”.

486. Comment by beavis | March 12th, 2009

     Matty,

     You’re right. Once Droobli “launches” in April “the consumer base will go up”. In fact it will probably even double; I might have to use my toes to count the number of auctions at that point because I won’t have enough fingers. You, too, should buy another Gold license. When I smell Droobli I smell an offshore bank account and it doesn’t have your name on it.

487. Comment by beavis | March 12th, 2009

     Oh, wow am I good! I just checked in on Droobli and they offer an investment opportunity to “buy ownership” in the company through a company called OIB – Offshore Investment Brokers. Can it get any more obvious?

488. Comment by beavis | March 15th, 2009

     Oh, everybody got quiet. Hmm, it seems Droobli is using a firm that specializes in not just any offshore banking operations, but they are doing business in Dubai. Dubai is one of the least cooperative countries with regard to responding to foreign government inquiries. While the Luxembourgs, Switerzerlands and Crown controlled countries cave to international pressure to release information, Dubai stands tall (while it stoops to help the scum of the world). In other words, this is where people put their money (or other peoples money) when they want to evade taxes or hide the money from the courts.

     So lets take an inventory. You Droobli asssociates have:

     1. Invested upfront money.
     2. Have no equity to show for it.
     3. Bought into an unproven business model.
     4. Believe in such claims as Droobli spent 80 million dollars on the software for the web site (I can code that site and we’d be talking 10 of thousands, not tens of millions).
     5. They previously promised a stock offering in Europe which disintegrated.
     6. Now offer you the opportunity to put money into Droobli through an offshore banking broker.
     7. Had a US “launch” in early October that had minuscule impact so they told you something “big” is going to happening in April.
     8. They now claim that the auctions aren’t supposed to be that successful as it is all about getting traffic for a shopping portal.

     This picture is starting to paint itself.

489. Comment by mikeZ | March 15th, 2009

     Children all the name calling wont help us decide is Droobli a scam or not. I have to say all that I have read leads me to believe that the Droobli guys are very fishy. I know alot of you guys have already made up your minds. Well that is why I came here to figure this stuff out and from my point of view it is becomming clearer eveyday that Droobli is very suspicious.

     My problem is I like the concept. Run properly it seems to me that the company could be a big hit. There problem is they need alot of upfront cash to make this work alotttttt and I know they do not have that. Hense selling licenses problem there is the guys who buy those licenses have no security at all. The lack on information about the company on the companies own website should arouse suspicion not to mention no information at all about the european site

     I also own three businesses and you want an early sign to what a scam is? The guy selling the scam cant stop telling you how much money you will make. Thats all the guys at droobli have been telling me.

490. Comment by dirkdigler | March 16th, 2009

     I’ve been approached by a friend with the free credits thing, etc. I’ve been looking into this company and I can’t find anything solid on them. No financial information just lot’s of promises that I’ll get rich quick if I hand them $3195. I was told also within a month Droobli was going to explode in the US. I agree with MikeZ about how all they talk about is how much money your going to make with little work. They even go on to say I’ll make money in my sleep. If its such a good deal they should take their money in commissions as money is being generated since it is only a month away. Instead they want me to pay up front for a license. I’m going to pass.

491. Comment by Robbie | March 16th, 2009

     “We know this works because it has already been done in Germany and has been launched this past October 2008. We are working off of their success.”

     LOL, once again someone is trying to make you believe that Droobli is a success in Germany. I can assure you it is not. These claims are all the more ridiculous if you consider the fact, that the US Droobli site has three times as much traffic as the European Droobli sites (which, of course, include Germany), although it’s only getting started in the US and making very little progress. But you can also check the completed auctions in Germany. On a good day three items are sold in the Xpress section. But there are also periods of up to 7 days without a single completed auction! Wow, what a success story. Zer0 and Unique Bid aren’t doing any better, and the fact, that many auctions are won by the same bidders, despite the fact that they’re based on luck, makes me believe that even the few successful auctions are staged by Droobli.

492. Comment by beavis | March 16th, 2009

     I need to make a correction/clarification:

     Droobli has relationships in Dubai, but I have no evidence OIB operates there; OIB does operate in the Sultantate of Oman (another nearby offshore haven). It’s anyone’s guess where the associates’ license fees are now vacationing.

     On another note, details of the auctions have been forwarded to the Nevada Gaming Control Board to have them determine whether Droobli is in violation of NRS463. As you probably know, the State of Nevada understands what is and is not gambling and will vigorously enforce the Nevada Revised Statutes against those that violate the State’s laws. Also, the investment offer for what appears to be an offer to purchase equity on Droobli’s site has been forwarded to the Securities and Exchange Commission.

493. Comment by Gene | March 16th, 2009

     Yeah the company is down the drain before it started. Hey the fact is that you see a big thing going and you think you can stop it. Why? What do you guys have at stake? Very interesting. The completed auctions do look a little dismal at this point in the US if that’s all there is which they have listed on the auction site. But I really don’t think the customer base is there yet. As you seem to forget. It may take a year to get it hot. Robbie put up a link so we can see the completed auctions in Germany would you? Beavis keep us updated on Nevada would you? LOL! In the mean time I will keep up the promotion of the company. At the bottom of my first page on my site there is a bit of information as to the legality of the auctions. Check out my site. A little crying wolf is not going to stop me. Thanks for the free advertising here. Hey folks try the auctions for yourself see if you can save on any of what’s there. I think you will find something you like. Have fun. The auctions haven’t stopped yet. LOL Like I say on my site, If you’re going to have an online store, how do you plan on bringing customers? Well here’s the solution. Have auctions where the prices go down. The $5,000 Walmart Voucher is still available and seems to keep coming up. I haven’t bid on it for some time. Maybe it’s still the same one. If so it’s got to be pretty low priced by now.

494. Comment by Robbie | March 16th, 2009

     A link? So you don’t even know how to handle the site you’re advertising for? Go to the US Droobli site, click on the EU icon (that’s the blue flag with the stars, right next to the US flag), then on “Completed auctions” and there you are. I think the auctions you see there are actually for the whole EU, not just Germany…
     In return I could ask you to put up a link or ANY proof of Droobli’s success in Europe. I mean you’re not just making that up or telling lies?

495. Comment by Gene | March 16th, 2009

     A link! Why didn’t you just tell everyone in the first place? So they could see for themselves. Yes there are in fact auctions going on. Good news. But the question is. Are they the only auctions going on? Just remember the auctions are just a part of the online shop/store. Tell me they aren’t making money in the store. The auctions aren’t the whole ball of wax Robbie. Come on you know that. Don’t you?

496. Comment by beavis | March 16th, 2009

     Gene is right, the store is another part of the equation; however, another shopping portal in a sea of shopping portals is not going to make anyone rich. The “hook” for traffic is the auction product. Unfortunately, the auction traffic indicates that there is a lack of consumer interest in this product. Optimists may claim that it only due to lack of exposure and that once Droobli “takes off” that will change. My opinion is Droobli has had enough time to generate a reasonable level of traffic and if it were going to “take off” it would be already posting more substantial numbers. I’ve heard claims of a customer base in the millions, millionaire and billionair investor backing, tens of millions expended for software, millionaires being created and yet the only solid evidence anyone can get their hands on appears to be the auction traffic which not only doesn’t support the company’s claims, but builds a decidedly good case to disprove them.

497. Comment by Lt. Col. J. D. Remington 5th SF | March 17th, 2009

     Who is located in Scottsdale AZ., area, that is willing to meet for coffee, I am seeking a meet with an individual, that actually knows what the truth is on this Droobli?

     I have family friends that have traded as high as $90k in accounts receivables for memberships….this thing could well prove catastrophic for these businesses that today find they cannot collect their receivables in this economy.

     I want a face to face with an individual having “extensive” first hand knowledge experience , with Jensen personally or the guy from Oregon. Advise.

498. Comment by Fox | March 17th, 2009

     Gene, you are just babbling about how successful Droobli is. Where are the facts? Could you, please, provide some working links or etc…
     Gene, I am afraid that there is nothing to do for you but . Of course not! You are losing your money!

     Have a great day!

499. Comment by Fox | March 17th, 2009

     Sorry for th technical problem.
     Gene, you are just babbling about how successful Droobli is. Where are the facts? Could you, please, provide some working links or etc…
     Gene, I am afraid that there is nothing to do for you but “keep up the promotion of the company”. “A little crying wolf is not going to stop me”/ Of course not! You are losing your money!

     Have a great day!

500. Comment by Robbie | March 17th, 2009

     “Yes there are in fact auctions going on. Good news.”

     Gee, you’re so desperate. Next to nothing is going on in the auctions, and somehow you’re trying to turn this into good news. For weeks you’re trying to convince everyone that the auctions are Droobli’s “hook” and “niche,” and confronted with the FACT that they’re not going well in Europe (where Droobli is supposed to be a success) you’re hiding behind the store, because there’s no way to check how often it is used. Also, what you call “store” is simply another price finder with a very limited choice (i.e. only few stores are linked to Droobli).
     I consider other people smart enough to go to the EU Droobli site and check for themselves. If this is too tough for you to handle, you can make yourself a link. But why would you want it? Why would you want to see the misery? Are you some sort of masochist? Is this possibly the sole reason behind you being so into Droobli?
     Needless to say you completely forgot to back up your claim of Droobli’s success in Europe.

501. Comment by Gene | March 17th, 2009

     So into it. Oh yeah. Listen. How many people here really know about the auctions? I mean in real numbers. Really now. Can’t you remember anything on this blog? Not even six months in the making and you think it’s a done deal. If you noticed in Europe the shop is very extensive. Look for anything! I think things have slowed down in everything. I don’t just do this company. It’s slow everywhere. In everything. Don’t ya know?
     Except maybe in the repo business! As things turn around and more people know about the auctions they can only get hot here as the were in Europe. You can’t go by what’s happening in the last few months as any indicator as to what has happened in Europe prior. You mean you can’t put a link up for us and do a little advertising? At any rate we have established we in fact, do have a business with an online store haven’t we. No scam whatsoever.

502. Comment by Chris T. | March 17th, 2009

     Is it me or does EagleScout need to get laid? A hobby. Oh, I forgot, this is how he makes his living.

503. Comment by Fox | March 17th, 2009

     The traffic ranks for Droobli.com and smartwinshop.com are pretty low: http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/smartwinshop.com/ Just compare it with eBay or Amazon
     http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/smartwinshop.com/ Impressive, isn’t it?
     Now, please look here http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/smartwinshop.com/
     Droobli.eu – the site from Europe is not even on top 100,000! Oh Yes, it is successful business in Europe, especially according to money they told they spent for SEO.

504. Comment by Fox | March 17th, 2009

     After some research, I found eu.droobli.com (site from Europe) . Their traffic ranks are very low for the huge successful business in Europe. Moreover, 55% of the visitors are from USA (?). Only 22.8% visitors are from German (where it suppose to be extremely popular). Take a look http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/eu.droobli.com

505. Comment by Gene | March 17th, 2009

     Hey Fox check back a few more months and then let us know.
     But don’t miss what we have here.

506. Comment by Fox | March 17th, 2009

     Ok, I will. But what about Europe (eu.GroobLi)? I am afraid that it is too late to check it back as everything has happened there already.

507. Comment by Gene | March 18th, 2009

     That’s my point. Everything has happened there already. Others are babbling about how unsuccessful the company is without giving it a chance before it gets rolling full steam and yes tough times are upon us which makes it a little more tricky. That doesn’t mean there is anything wrong with the company. Will things pick up? Who knows. But there is no scam here. We’ll have a better feel after April. Some interesting things will be happening.

508. Comment by Robbie | March 19th, 2009

     How many people know about the auctions? What the hell do you mean? Anyone who checks the site can see how many auctions are completed. Your posts are getting more and more incoherent. The shop is anything but extensive, I can’t find anything of interest. Besides, this is not a shop! Amazon has a shop, Droobli has not. All you find there are links to other shops. There’s hundreds of sites offering a better price finding service.
     LOL, so first you were referring to the European success Droobli USA is working off, now you admit that everything has happened here (in Europe). Well, if it’s over without having made any impact, why should it work in the USA? Answer is easy: It will do its purpose. It will take advantage of some people’s gullibility, greed or desperation. Once the US market is exploited, Droobli will move on to the next market and the bosses will get richer, until the company collapses. But I guess the only way for you to learn is the hard way…

509. Comment by Gene | March 19th, 2009

     You are ridiculous robbie. You have no coherent arguments. You don’t even listen to reason and again everyone can see it.
     We’ve got a great business plan and people can make a good honest living doing it, so bug off man. Here go shopping http://eu.droobli.com/?gmt=300 I guess you have no idea what a trading portal is. Do you? Anyone who is an associate can make click through income when customers buy through the portal and it doesn’t matter if they buy there from goggle or ebay or amazon. I guess you lost it all in the translation didn’t you.

510. Comment by Ryan | March 19th, 2009

     april is coming. the big “launch” is almost upon us. i’m positively GIDDY!! i believe the webinar promised a “media blitz.” i will poop on myself if i hear something about droobli on television or radio. right then and there.

511. Comment by beavis | March 19th, 2009

     Gene,

     The facts are the facts. Droobli promoted itself based on the alleged success of their European operation. We have verified that Droobli EU is not, in any stretch of the imagination, successful. The auction traffic is even lower than in the US. I think this would be properly labeled as a lie or gross exaggeration.

     They dare to compare themselves to eBay and that they are impacting their market share. Once again, the traffic at these sites indicates that any impact is minuscule. I think this also qualifies as a lie or gross exaggeration.

     I’ve already stated my feelings about their unverifiable claim of spending 80 million on software for the site. I think it is not even close to reasonable that they spent this kind of money and, barring evidence to the contrary, I believe it to be a lie.

     They associate with OIB and expect investors to invest in Droobli through them. OIB (Offshore Investment Brokers) is in the business of setting up offshore accounts. Offshore accounts are primarily used to evade taxes and shield money from the courts. This is more than a red flag for dubious business practices; it practically spells out that the company is committing or intends to commit questionable acts.

     Droobli claims 10,000+ associates. I believe that is a lie, too; but for the sake of argument, if there are 10,000 associates, the amount of auction traffic commission income per associate is in the pennies per day (per week?). How do you create enough profit to return the investment of the associates? Barring an amazing increase in auction traffic, you can’t unless you factor in the recruiting income which, coincidently, is how all pyramid schemes work.

     If Droobli doesn’t show some real numbers soon the pyramid will reach its’ end. At that point your license money will most likely wind up in a numbered account in Dubai or the Sultantate of Oman (Droobli has relationship’s in Dubai and OIB has an office in Oman). It probably is already there. At that point that money will not be reachable by the US courts. Game over.

512. Comment by Gene | March 19th, 2009

     You got a lot of wind don’t ya beavis? Go shopping http://eu.droobli.com/?gmt=300 You hear what you want to hear. Ever watch Howdy Doody?

513. Comment by 2smart4Dublin | March 19th, 2009

     Gene… soon you will be ashamed of your ignorance. Or maybe you aren’t smart enough to know you were wrong. The big LOL “Viral Launch” is “coming up”. Every body brace yourself. Gene is about to prove us all right. They are going to sell twice as many products as before! LOL Would that be 25? Maybe 30? Gene is going to be laughing all the way to the bank with his 11 cents. Too bad he invested 3100!!!!!!! LOLOLOL OMG What a loser!

514. Comment by 2smart4Dublin | March 19th, 2009

     I think it’s time to admit what a fool you have been Gene, and all the rest. Stop hurting family and friends. Why would a company with Billionaire investors and oil tycoons need puny insignificant loans from losers like Gene who don’t go to College and get real jobs? I just heard about Droobli on Monday, and it took me one day of casual reading, and grade 6 math to realize what a crap scam it is!!!! I am personally embarrassed on behalf of all the Gene’s out there who are doomed to a life of self deceit, and shameful failure. What a sad pathetic display you have put of here, with your poorly supported arguments. “You don’t even listen to reason and again everyone can see it”. Good point Gene, if you are talking about yourself.

     If you are wondering about my motivations for posting, I’m a die hard Ebayer. I am, like many others soooo worried about Droobli taking part of the market share…. LOL what a joke…. My vet’s webpage is taking a bigger piece of Ebay’s pie.

515. Comment by 2smart4Dublin | March 19th, 2009

     In regards to comment 501 by Gene. I find a particular degree of hilarity here. I mean everything he has said is irrelevant and pathetic dribble, but I find this one more entertaining than the others. I’m not sure why. Kudos on establishing that you have an online store. Now onto more pressing issues, like why your company would charge you to work for them? Or why there are less than 20 items a day sold on the Express Auctions? The majority of power sellers on Ebay (small groups of people each) outsell this feature both in number of items, and in gross sales. They paid only pennies in marketing for each item listed. How much did your page cost you? Why doesn’t one person here produce a financial statement for Droobli, that shows a net gain. Please don’t fabricate one on your Microsoft Excel 97′ trial version, that would make you appear more sad. What kind of company has friends performing corny webinar’s which equate to something of less value than a Bowflex commercial. Well done Eaglescout, on providing two hours of entertainment for me. Droobli is laughable at best. Most would call it pathetic.

     God Bless!

     (LOL that was a laugh too! What kind of ethical person (referring to several posts here) try’s to tie religion into their MLM propaganda. Probably not a smart one!) I’m an agnostic intellect who finds Gene’s existence sad, and inevitable net loss amusing. Surely your wife will leave you after the “viral launch”.

     LOL I had to get one more in. Obviously Gene has only limited intercourse, likely with himself.

516. Comment by Gene | March 19th, 2009

     Oh hurting family and friends now. I don’t have time for you.

517. Comment by Charlie | March 19th, 2009

     Everytime I check in there’s a new and improved Wanker in charge, “2Smart4Droobli” I doubt you’re to smart for anything except your telemarketing job where soon you might be floor manager, maybe ask your parents for a loan and you can come and see my house in Maui,(My address is posted) The house and the cars are paid for, I spend my days playing Golf, Fishing, and getting stoned, “2Smart4Droobli” I loved your appearance on Dateline’s To Catch A Predator”, If you love young boys so much you should go to Thailand, maybe settle down with a nice 12 year old,…..

518. Comment by beavis | March 19th, 2009

     Why does the Droobli money train now resemble a short, yellow bus?

519. Comment by Charlie | March 19th, 2009

     That’s not a bus Beavis that’s your Gonorrhea urine. I’ve got my own train and your Mother’s up front Fucker.

520. Comment by beavis | March 19th, 2009

     Charlie,

     Getting a bit touchy? You act like you just lost a bit of money. You can always take a trip to Dubai and visit it. The more I dig into Droobli the more I realize what a scam you fell for. And even with your insults, I am sad I couldn’t have prevented you from doing it as I find the scammers even more repulsive. I’m afraid next month may contain the day of reckoning for you as the “big announcement” by Droobli will be just more grandiose talk and even you might experience the phenomena known as the”dim bulb turning on” (granted your’s will probably only flicker and spark, but that would be an improvement).

521. Comment by Charlie | March 20th, 2009

     Beavis Please, I could care a less about Droobli, I’m just trying to get into a fight… I’m like the drunk white trash guy at the party, cept I have a whole bunch of money in the bank.

522. Comment by beavis | March 20th, 2009

     Charlie,

     Thanks, Charlie, that was a real kick in the nuts. Now I’ve only got Gene to make fun of.

523. Comment by Gene | March 20th, 2009

     Hey beav no fun intended ah?
     This little man 2s must have skipped the class in college writing when it came to fallacies along with beav. He must think he can prove his point by berating a moral upstanding man with only the best of virtues impugning motives and character. It’s good we can see the truth come shinning through of the characters of those who oppose something that will help those fortunate ones who had the courage to breast the storm of derisive abuse of some who harbor no reserve as to their ill conceived designs as they try to paint a picture in their favor. Sensible people are watching these stupid abusive attacks. Don’t let these random acts of insanity
     weigh on you as you make the decision to be part of the company that will indeed do what it says it will do.
     Good day!

524. Comment by beavis | March 20th, 2009

     Gene,

     Well, you continually ignore the facts that are starting to really pile up against Droobli and yet you continue to market for this company. Exactly how should you be treated? It’s getting a little beyond the stage of you being a victim to the point that you know or should have known that things are not alright in Droobliworld. The auction model is failing as evidenced by the lack of traffic. The company associates and conducts business with offshore banking types which says volumes about it credibility. Just why should these guys be trusted? If the auction model is so attractive why is the traffic nothing less than pathetic? Why does the company make wild claims that defy reason such as they are going to be the next eBay or Amazon and that they spent 80 million on software? I don’t think these guys are just liars; I think they are sociopaths willing to say whatever they feel people like you want to hear in order to take your money. Its time you asked yourself “why do they make such outrageous claims” and “why is the traffic so poor when they claimed people would flock to it and continue to say it in the face of verifiably poor stats”. If you are going to market for this company it your obligation to start asking them these questions.

525. Comment by 2smart4Dublin | March 20th, 2009

     “Don’t let these random acts of insanity
     weigh on you as you make the decision to be part of the company that will indeed do what it says it will do.
     Good day!”

     lol…. If I was a telemarketer, I would be netting several times more than all of the “Drooblidiots” on here. I’m not, but it’s because I’m a student. I already have a degree in Biology, with a minor in Econ. That’s and HBSC Biologiy L Econ for anyone here who only goes to webinars, instead of a real school (Gene cough). Now I’m pursuing a second major. Gene I’m sure has several phD’s, in addition to his honorary degree in being a broke moron.

     I’m sure you have no time for me, because you are frantically trying to explain to the friends and family you *didn’t hurt* why they aren’t generating any revenue yet. Sorry you are such a loser.

     Your highly intellectual delivery of the last post makes me think you might not be all fool, but you are obviously not beyond the trickery of the Droobli scam. Once again, why don’t you post some relevant banking info that shows the deposits you have received?

     “I think things have slowed down in everything. I don’t just do this company. It’s slow everywhere. In everything. Don’t ya know?”

     LOL oh wait…. nevermind. You are all fool. Really Gene! What other companies do you “do”?!?!? More mlm’s?

     Do you clean office buildings for a living? What are your credentials? You don’t have time for me but you spend so much time on a blog about your scamstore. I’m sure you are no professional.

     Good work on providing relevant info that disproves the negativity on this blog. The only viral launch you should worry about concerns the escort services you would surely use, if you weren’t so broke from Droobli.

     As for Charlie, congratulations on having successful parents, unless you are just a liar like Gene. Why would someone with tons of money waste time trying to make a minimal income on Droobli? Or spend all day on this blog? Your lies are as transparent as Gene’s invisible conscience.

526. Comment by 2smart4Dublin | March 21st, 2009

     LOL. I was drunk last night when I entered that last post.. Too drunk to see just how pathetic Gene’s post was! HAHAHAHAHA! What an intellect! Trying to prove us wrong with a dated thesaurus and some pathetic (run on) sentences. LOL!!!!

     You know what? On second thought we should all take Gene’s word for it. Let’s sit back and let this company do what they say they will do! After all, don’t all of the business greats of the world just take everyone’s word for it, without ever seeing any pertinent data regarding the companies they invest in? Surely Bobby Jensen is a kind man, with Gene’s kind and moral heart in mind.

     Maybe you should bite the bullet, apologize to the people you enlisted in your Droobli cult, and beg your boss at the factory to let you come back. Unless they already closed and moved their plant to Mexico.

527. Comment by beavis | March 21st, 2009

     GroobLi Gone Fail:

     4 successful auctions yesterday (3/20/09) for Dbuli US;
     1 successful auction yesterday for Droobli EU.

     OK, Gene, do we really have to wait until April for their big announcement about some made up ad campaign with bazillions of ad dollars that only exist in the CEO’s mind? Droobli is failing. I think 2smart4Droobli is right; it’s time to make those phone calls.

528. Comment by Gene | March 21st, 2009

     Beav HOW can you say the auctions have failed. Don’t be dopey.
     Like I said who knows about the auctions yet? It’s only a scant number of the population. When the masses find out watch out. The way you treat me is an indication of who you are. Who would want to do business with you? Really LOL. Off shore banking give me a break. And so what! We don’t have to out do ebay or amazon cause we can work right with them through our trading portal. We get click through revenue when our customers buy from any of these companies through our trading portal. Is it getting clearer for you? You never did answer my question if you knew what a trading portal was. You’re battling a futile campaign against the company. I don’t need to ask any questions I’m seeing how it works. I have asked believe me.

529. Comment by Gene | March 21st, 2009

     I’ve got a little time for you now 2s. Oohhhh a degree 2s. So what? You had to go to college to get smarts. LOL I’ve had plenty of schooling so don’t be so high and mighty. I got good grades too. Where did you learn your trash talk? LOL I don’t have access to any of their bank records, do you? Hey you lose when you open your mouth. There is no trickery with the company it’s a simple plan and I LIKE it. But knuckle heads may have a hard time comprehending the simplicity of it all. I look at it this way. I can get free advertising here and your ignorant remarks just help others make up their minds to do the business. Look whose talking about run on sentences. Anyone ever teach you manners? So what if I clean toilets. It’s honest work. It doesn’t matter what kind of honest work you do, you can do this business for extra income. Take a hike little man. Where did you come from anyway?

530. Comment by Charlie | March 21st, 2009

     “2smart” did you actually mention college?! I’m embarrassed for you man. Go back to your bowl of Top Ramen and your poster of NSYNC and call me when you’ve grown some balls, me a liar? yeah sometimes but not when it concerns money, here it is my dad was a truck driver and my Mom was a school teacher, my dad died in 89 and left me $150,000 in tax free life insurance, I was training to become a Seal in the United States Navy, I took the money and built a conservative portfolio, Ten years later in 1999 I lost my Mom she left me about $250,000 and change in tax free life insurance, I took all that money and invested in one thing, Coffee, Hawaiian Coffee, first on Kona (The Big Island) and next here in Maui, over the past 10 years I’ve made more money than you’ll make in your lifetime, I’ve raised three sons who live here in Maui, My oldest son is a champion Mixed Martial arts fighter and a typical bad ass, I bought a 4 thousand square foot house that was in foreclosure here in West Maui, I golf every Sunday with Willie Nelson and Woody Harrelson, I ride my Harley with Peter Fonda and I smoke weed every day. I’m 43 and retired. Like I said come and see for yourself you little shit. The reason I blog on this site? 15 minutes of boredom per day. You should post your address and I could come and see you, but that’s not likely is it.

531. Comment by beavis | March 21st, 2009

     Gene said:

     “You’re battling a futile campaign against the company.”

     You’re right Gene; my efforts are futile. Droobli is doing a fine job of failing regardless of what I do. I just hope I’m doing some little part in accelerating its’ demise. I still think getting a troop of Girl Scouts to do the selling instead of the Droobli website would increase sales and would cost less than the 80 million dollars Droobli claims to have invested in software (I still laugh every time I think about that claim; 80 million).

     Gene further said “Off shore banking give me a break. And so what!”

     Umm, one of my earlier posts regarding Droobli’s association with Offshore Investment Brokers kind of spelled that one out for you:

     “Offshore accounts are primarily used to evade taxes and shield money from the courts. This is more than a red flag for dubious business practices; it practically spells out that the company is committing or intends to commit questionable acts.”

     Trusting people with your money is one thing; trusting people with your money who play with “investment advisors” who specialize in offshore accounts is a little dicier.

532. Comment by Robbie | March 22nd, 2009

     “You have no coherent arguments. You don’t even listen to reason and again everyone can see it.”

     Look at him, now he’s already writing to himself. Obviously Droobli is not only a scam, it also has a devastating effect on the psyche.

     “I guess you lost it all in the translation didn’t you.”

     Yeah, sure, if believing this makes you feel better or helps you to evade responses to the points I made, I did. Your total lack of arguments and your monotonous advertising routine are beginning to have me believe you’re just a badly programmed bot. I’ll keep an eye on the thread, but a discussion with a Drooblidiot is apparently as pointless as it is tiresome.

533. Comment by Robbie | March 22nd, 2009

     Charlie, you were 44 as of December 2. It’s March and you’re 43. I know with Droobli sky’s the limit. But what can we expect in April? Are you gonna get pregnant? With Woody Harrelson’s baby? Beat Tiger Woods wearing a blindfold? Keep us updated!

534. Comment by Gene | March 22nd, 2009

     blog on boys blog on. LOL I need say no more.

535. Comment by beavis | March 22nd, 2009

     Gene said:

     “I need say no more.”

     That’s been true for some time.

536. Comment by 2smart4Dublin | March 22nd, 2009

     OMG Charlie!

     Before I thought you were maybe lying because you were embarrassed about your involvement with Droobli, and you were trying to reconcile your feelings of self hatred.

     It’s clear now that you are simply a pathological liar.

     Most people are smart enough to know that a “Seal”, is a position in the “United States Navy”. Really it goes without mentioning. Or are there also Mexican Navy Seals. Do you go to international Seal conferences and exchange pins?

     VERY believable. An ex Navy Seal / coffee millionaire who frequently golfs with celebrities…. but you are posting on here about how you hope to get rich with Droobli…. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

     Do you also take tea with Laura Bush?

     Douchebag of the Year Award… (drumrole) …….goes to Charlie! Da da da da da da daaaaaaaaaa!

537. Comment by 2smart4Dublin | March 22nd, 2009

     LOL…

     Here is comment #146 from credible old Charlie.

     “I have to say this blog is fun! I am amazed that people say Mutlti Level marketing like it’s a bad thing, I’m 44 years old, and my Father was in Amway in 1970 and he retired at 40 years old making 6 figures for his entire life and he never went to any office or ever wore a name tag, My mother was with Mary kay Cosmetics for 20 years and always made 6 figures and drove a new pink caddilac every year, both my parents are gone and I still get checks from both companies, so laugh it up people there are more retired Network Marketing Millionaires than perhaps any business you can get into besides maybe Real Estate or Insurance, But this blog is fun!”

     Then here is comment #530 (Also Charlie)

     ““2smart” did you actually mention college?! I’m embarrassed for you man. Go back to your bowl of Top Ramen and your poster of NSYNC and call me when you’ve grown some balls, me a liar? yeah sometimes but not when it concerns money, here it is my dad was a truck driver and my Mom was a school teacher, my dad died in 89 and left me $150,000 in tax free life insurance, I was training to become a Seal in the United States Navy, I took the money and built a conservative portfolio, Ten years later in 1999 I lost my Mom she left me about $250,000 and change in tax free life insurance, I took all that money and invested in one thing, Coffee, Hawaiian Coffee, first on Kona (The Big Island) and next here in Maui, over the past 10 years I’ve made more money than you’ll make in your lifetime, I’ve raised three sons who live here in Maui, My oldest son is a champion Mixed Martial arts fighter and a typical bad ass, I bought a 4 thousand square foot house that was in foreclosure here in West Maui, I golf every Sunday with Willie Nelson and Woody Harrelson, I ride my Harley with Peter Fonda and I smoke weed every day. I’m 43 and retired. Like I said come and see for yourself you little shit. The reason I blog on this site? 15 minutes of boredom per day. You should post your address and I could come and see you, but that’s not likely is it.”

     Charlie is so high all day he must have forgetten about previous posts. So your dad made 6 figures but drove a truck for fun? Your parents both made 6 figures but the only money they left you was from life insurance?

     This is a very believable case you have made for yourself Charlie. Time to cut your losses and start posting under a new name, and telling us you are from L.A.

     I need say no more!!!!

538. Comment by beavis | March 22nd, 2009

     2smart4Droobli, YOU IDIOT!!! Charlie is a ninja for the CIA. Are you trying to get yourself killed!?

539. Comment by Charlie | March 22nd, 2009

     It’s just so much easier to tell lies, it helps ease my self hatred, and I have been posing another name since I started this and you guys fall for it everytime! There is no Charlie in fact there is no Maui, I will be blogging under a different name and you guys will actually respond, To Funny.

540. Comment by 2smart4Dublin | March 22nd, 2009

     Gene… anything to add to the demise of your “business associates”.

     Also I apologize to Eaglescout for taking the professionalism away from your blog. I simply can’t resist making attacks against people like Gene and Charlie personal. They are too stupid for logic and it seems to be the only thing that works to get through to them…

     I’m done here… Peace!

541. Comment by beavis | March 22nd, 2009

     I’m checking out, at least until the April announcement by Droobli. I just love to say “I told you so” and I know it will be one of those moments. Will they promise a 50 million or 100 million dollar ad campaign? I also heard the EU was going to convert all commerce to only go through Droobli by 2010. And Droobli credits are the next world currency.

542. Comment by I Love Dublin | March 23rd, 2009

     I just wondered on to this site and I have to say this is the first negative anything I’ve ever heard about Droobli. I joined about October of 08 and I’ve made money ever since. I signed up my pastor at my church and so far it’s really taken off, i live in vegas and everyone i know who got involved are really happy and excited about Droobli. My upline opened an office and we’re recruiting people everyday and giving them the tools and resources they need to make money, I don’t think it will ever out do E-bay but I do think it’s legit and a great way to start your own business. Thanks Droobli!

543. Comment by teamdublin | March 23rd, 2009

     I’ve been in droobli since the beginning and i have to say this thing has changed my life and the lives of people i’ve introduced it to for the positive, here in san diego Droobli is going nuts, we also have an office and most of us are in droobli full time, i don’t know where you guys are getting your “information” but we’re all having a ball with this thing. i think april will just be incredible, furthermore i don’t know why you genius’s are knocking droobli, what do you care if someone wants to get involved, you’re wasting your time droobli’s going to be huge.

544. Comment by Lazbit | March 23rd, 2009

     Just wanted to say thanks for this site, doing the research, exposing Droobli for obvious sham that it is, and keeping it going even when they try to intimidate your hosting provider (and good on them for sticking by you).

     A friend who’s been pressured to invest in Droobli asked me to check it out. (I’ve worked in the e-commerce field for 10 years.) This is obviously not a reputable firm.

     Here’s the summary I sent to her:

     1) While not all MLM firms are scams, they deserve more scrutiny than traditional businesses. Droobli bears all the hallmarks of a traditional pyramid scam.
     2) For the amazing claims made by the firm about their success in Europe and million dollar investments in Europe, you can’t find a single bit of independent media coverage to confirm. What you can find are bankruptcies, fleeing scam artists, and founders with less than stellar reputations. You can also find dismal traffic reports show dismal or flat growth — certainly not indicators that consumers are flocking to their sites, even if word of mouth is the only form of marketing.
     3) The firm is about as transparent as Bernie Madoff was. It’s a black box. They’ll brag about all the money being made (or that will be made), but won’t show you their financials when pressed.
     4) They have no formal US addresses other than a drop ship center. And payments are done via wire transfer to offshore accounts, making the odds of ever getting your money back if anything were to go wrong remote at best. Highly suspicious.
     5) They’ve had a US-based auction site running for four months. Very very few items sell. On some days nothing sells. Individual eBay sellers outperform them. And yet this is supposed to be the ‘hook’ that will bring in traffic for the supposed ‘heart’ of their deal, the ‘online store’ where they link to other merchants.
     6) For the next phase of their operations, they’ll be taking on Google (via Froogle), PriceGrabber, MySimon, and other price comparison and linking tools that are firmly entrenched in the market. They think they’ll pull this off via the popularity of their auctions. This is wishful thinking in the extreme. Again, look at the traffic reports (6 months after launch), and the dismal activity on the auctions. It’s just not a believable claim. And even if it were to get popular, they’ll have an incredibly difficult time taking on industry heavy weights with more capital, credibility, and experience.
     7) In my opinion, at the end of the day, the heart of Droobli is convincing people that are unfamiliar with e-commerce that they are being given some rare opportunity to ‘be at the front of the wave’ of a lucrative e-business opportunity. But the only capital flowing is the suckers being forced to buy ‘credits’ and trying to convince their friends to do the same. Eventually, like all these schemes, the founders will disappear with their money. And move on to the next con job and the next set of saps. It’s sad. It’s manipulative. It takes advantage of people at a time when they are hungry for hope. It’s a con as old as time wearing Web 2.0 coating. PT Barnum said it best, “There’s a sucker born every minute.”

545. Comment by Gene | March 23rd, 2009

     Lazbit,

     You have got a lot of flap on the lip there don’t ya? Of course it’s all baloney just like the rest. Where did you get your reasoning abilities? You’ve been in e-commerce now for 10 big ones ah. What are you 30 yrs old now? We’ll see if it’s reputable or not. You’ve just cover most of the points that these jokers here have tried to poke fun at to no avail.
     Don’t you like the concept the hook of the auctions? So you pay 80 cents to look at a price and got that 500 dollar laptop for zero. I mean would you call that a deal or a steal? It doesn’t take a mad scientist or even a rocket scientist to see what we have here. How long do you think it should take for this business to make a profit? Do you know anything about a business? I mean at 30? No offense to 30 year olds but come on man. If you’d all join me on my auction site we can take care of some of the slow time and pick it up a bit. Let’s get them auctions fired up. What do you say? We have products to move maybe not all you expect but they’re there. Let’s get’r done.

546. Comment by teamdublin | March 23rd, 2009

     All that neat research you’ve done is impressive but what about myself and all my Droobli friends who paid $800 to get started and made that money back immediately and continue to make money, without investing another dime? Wouldn’t you agree we’re ahead, I’m not investing ANY more money in Droobli and I and my friends will continue to make money, so who got scammed, nobody I know. I was hoping to hear from beavis and 2smart they seem like the real genius behind this site.

547. Comment by Charlie | March 23rd, 2009

     I miss Beavis and 2Smart4Droobli it’s just no fun without the personal jabs and sarcasm, We really do need some genuine jackasses to make this site fun. Did you see how those guys signed off last “My work is done here” and 2Smart actually thanking Eaglescout like two caped crusaders going off to battle, I think they got together and are living happily ever after. We love you guys!! Stay in touch.

548. Comment by I Love Dublin | March 23rd, 2009

     charlie, are you even in droobli? what the heck are you doing here?

549. Comment by dale | March 23rd, 2009

     “A pyramid scheme is a non-sustainable business model that involves the exchange of money primarily for enrolling other people into the scheme”

     Glad to see you are successful “teamdroobli”.

550. Comment by Gene | March 23rd, 2009

     Dale,

     AND?

551. Comment by teamdublin | March 23rd, 2009

     Thank you dale, I wouldn’t say i’m successful, but i’m making a little extra money with droobli, and i’ve never had “extra” money before, so I apologize to those who have ill will towards droobli, but I don’t. Good luck to all.

552. Comment by Rea Tard | March 23rd, 2009

     This has got to be the most retarded statement I has ever read regarding a business opportunity and how to identify if its a scam… wtf???

     How to identify a scam:

     [Nobody who is your friend needs to sell you anything so you can be rich. If they are really your friend, they wouldn’t make you pay for it; unless they were desperate for money. And if they are desperate for money, then their “business” proposition can’t be any good.]

     Hahaha “If they are really your friend, they wouldn’t make you pay for it” Dude what planet are you from?!

     I stumbled onto this site because I received a link on “Droobli retarded auction for idiots”

     Personally I wish I would have made this business model It looks like a awesome money maker!

     Fist off I love that they get retards to buy credits.

     Mmmmm FREE MONEY earning interest!!!

     Secondly spend a credit/money just to view a price all the while reducing the value of the product but insuring the retailer get full retail price… haha that amazing that people really fall for this.

     Look for my auction site its gonna be called “Foolubli”

553. Comment by teamdublin | March 23rd, 2009

     Hey Rea like i said if the whole thing went belly up tommorrow, I’m already ahead by a few thousand bucks.

554. Comment by I Love Dublin | March 23rd, 2009

     I still can’t understand why people are against Droobli I think it might solve everything that’s going on right now just turn to Droobli and everything will be incredible

555. Comment by Insidious | March 24th, 2009

     Sockpuppets hired by GroobLi.

556. Comment by teamdublin | March 24th, 2009

     You think Droobli is paying me to post on this site, that would be awesome, where do I sign up. Seriously if you know how to get paid for this fill me in.

557. Comment by Charlie | March 24th, 2009

     Rea Tard, you have the same unique sarcasm and stupidity as “Beavis” are you sure you’re not just switcing names Beavis? I think that you are, you know you can’t stay away.

558. Comment by 2smart4Dublin | March 24th, 2009

     Charlie = teamdroobli = I Love Drooblie

     He thought that by capitalizing only one of his additional pseudonyms we would be fooled into believing it is two separate people.

     Gene = inbred monkey prophet

559. Comment by Charlie | March 24th, 2009

     So it is you 2smart, this is your site. 2smart=Eaglescout=cocksucker,

560. Comment by Fox | March 24th, 2009

     Just does your home work. Go back in 2004 and you will see that Droobli has already started their BIG promises
     Check it out http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://droobli.com
     Where are the BIG results????

561. Comment by Fox | March 24th, 2009

     Oops! “do” of course

562. Comment by beavis | March 24th, 2009

     So they have been promising this same shtick since 2004 and these “associates” are still waiting for the BIG EVENT that will rocket them to financial Independence? I honestly didn’t know this. Good work Fox; verifiable facts really piss of the devout (be prepared to be called names; that’s how they fight back).

563. Comment by beavis | March 24th, 2009

     Read that as “piss off the devout”. I’ll go back to hibernation now. Fox’s post just caught my attention because it had some nice damning information about Droobli (an we all know how hard it is to get anything concrete on Droobli).

564. Comment by beavis | March 24th, 2009

     Oh, one more thing; how about a new tag line for Droobli:

     “Promising success since 2004!”

     All you Droobli “associates”, feel free to use this.

565. Comment by Gene | March 25th, 2009

     Beav everyone can see who the name callers are.
     That’s what you have to resort to when you can’t
     honestly defend your position. Fox if you want a
     domain name go try godaddy.

566. Comment by Gene | March 25th, 2009

     I does my home work.

     Hey I like the European ad Fox they’ve been going at it for awhile there haven’t they? The company’s conception was in 2003. Check my site.

     … makes the World smaller and your opportunities larger!

     … you can – FREE OF CHARGE – advertise your products

     or services to an affluent audience.

567. Comment by umissedit | March 25th, 2009

     Re tard said;”Secondly spend a credit/money just to view a price all the while reducing the value of the product but insuring the retailer get full retail price… haha that amazing that people really fall for this.” They pay to join Sam’s Club and Costco to see the price and buy it. They both make more in membership fees than what they sell!

     Dale Said;“A pyramid scheme is a non-sustainable business model that involves the exchange of money primarily for enrolling other people into the scheme” So is Social Security and you pay into it.

     I’ve spent twenty minutes at this site. What a waste of time it’s been.

568. Comment by beavis | March 25th, 2009

     umissedit,

     Thank you for contributing to the waste of time with your off-base, inaccurate and irrelevant analogies. Please feel free to post again next year.

     And Charlie,

     . . . oh, never mind.

569. Comment by Charlie | March 25th, 2009

     Beavis, those neverminds really hurt, please some more insults I’m desperate.

570. Comment by Woody | March 25th, 2009

     it seems like a lot of solid people are involved in droobli, i know for a fact Hubert Humphrey from world financial group fame is involved, why would he possibly want to get involved the man’s a billionaire, for every site like this one there are a hundred that are pro droobli.

571. Comment by dublinscam | March 25th, 2009

     So there are 33 items in the zero bid auction. Is that it? I have been following this MLM for 6 months in search of the truth and all I have found are brain washed MLM’ers that haven’t made any money but are waiting for all of these bells and whistles to kick in. Once you can show me a check with your name on it for a good amount of money, I’ll join otherwise shut up and stop saying all of this great stuff is coming- what a joke! If you want a good network marketing company try avon. Otherwise the only other advise I can offer is affiliate marketing through commission junction or other affiliate programs. work smarter not harder and defiantly not with a scam!

572. Comment by dublinscam | March 25th, 2009

     Oh sorry forgot to place the link to all 33 of the “hot” itmems on the zero-bid/ LOL what a joke. Can you say brainwashed. Oh also if you reply to this please inculde how much you have made so far. I find it hard to believe anyone person has made any money. Here is the link to all 33 of the crappy items nobody wants: http://eu.droobli.com/index.php?cid=zero.show&catID=0&page=1&all=1

573. Comment by Woody | March 25th, 2009

     The money comes by wire transfer, my first month I made about $500, that was October’08 since then it’s gone up and down anywhere from $500 to $1700 per month and it’s been a lot of fun.

574. Comment by dublinscam | March 25th, 2009

     Woody, Who are your sources- Mr. Humphrey- yeah i am sure a man of this caliber is associated with this scam. $500-1700 a month? Really ehh?? Find it a little hard to believe. What is your affiliate id? How long have you been in the affiliate marketing industry?

575. Comment by Woody | March 25th, 2009

     I never said I knew Mr. Humphrey I just know he’s involved, Why would i give you my id#, do you also want my password so you can log into my back office and see my earnings, and who’s asking you sign up anyway not me, if Droobli’s not for you so be it, that’s why we live in America. it’s not for everyone, just the smart people.

576. Comment by dublinscam | March 25th, 2009

     America needs to rid itself of deceptive people who sell bullshit products and trick people into buying a business model that is anything less of the biggest scam on the planet. Have you ever owned a “real” business? Have you ever bought a product from Dulbi? If so which one? How much did you pay? Have you read the terms and conditions? Again you are brainwashed with what I call the “dream”. Do yourself a favor and take all of that money you are making from Droobli and go buy yourself a real education. lol

577. Comment by Woody | March 25th, 2009

     Wow wee someone needs to get laid, I have purchased several items though Droobli, digital camera, $35.00, DVD player $15.00, Ipod Nano, $5.00, how is it a scam if I haven’t lost money, I pay $500.00 a month for a Home owner’s association for my condo and I still don’t know where that money goes, the I.R.S. is the greatest scam known to man ever. By the way only Homosexuals and teen girls use the term “LOL”.

578. Comment by Fox | March 26th, 2009

     Woody, even if it is the truth, and you are making about $500 – 1500 per month, it is just from recruiting and recruiting naïve losers who are desperate for money. As you can see at http://eu.droobli.com/index.php?cid=zero.show&catID=0&page=1&all=1 there were only 3 successful auctions last month. Pathetic, Isn’t it ?

579. Comment by Woody | March 26th, 2009

     America ridding itself of me? perhaps they sould take all of us involved in Droobli to the middle east for some waterboarding, I think EVERYONE on this site is a little deceptive, I think that’s what blogging is, anonymous so guys like Beavis and 2smart can actually be brave because there’s no chance of ever coming face to face with anyone.

580. Comment by Gene | March 26th, 2009

     Fox how many successful auctions do you have to have to know it’s a success? Please. I mean if it is completed it’s a success right? How many auctions would you like?
     You know you can recommend something up for auction? What would you like to see? I’d like to see some tools there myself. Well at least the auctions are working aren’t they. Proof it’s not what the so called scamapedia pundants here claim. I’d like the prices go down faster. I do believe it will happen. So it’s not meeting your expectations. Too bad.
     Point is we know they work. Right? Check my site and see what my kids got for a gift in the auctions. I tried it out and sure enough we got the product and good service to boot.

581. Comment by beavis | March 26th, 2009

     Woody said:
     “anonymous so guys like Beavis and 2smart can actually be brave because there’s no chance of ever coming face to face with anyone.”

     Yes, I can sit here with impunity making fun of your ridiculous religious belief in a company that is so obviously selling you a bill of goods that only a card carrying moron would dump $3199 into it. The only frustrating part for me is that I know you will quietly disappear after the futile months of little or no income wears you down. I won’t get to say “I told you so” and see your pained face as you realize you were taken. I will have some condolence in the knowledge that your downline will know where to find you and I’m sure they will talking to you about the money they lost because of you recruiting them. Remember; five recruits who recruit five recruits who recruit five recruits, etc equals a lynch mob

582. Comment by Woody | March 26th, 2009

     Once again EVERYONE I’ve enrolled paid $800 total and every single one of them has made that money back and then some, so who have I scammed? I pay $500 a month for my condo’s HOA and I have no idea where that money goes, not to mention the I.R.S. who I gladly turn over 40% of my income every week.

583. Comment by Woody | March 26th, 2009

     Sorry my kids interrupted me, I would never lay down $3199 for Droobli, and I don’t think Droobli is God, I will never do Droobli full time I’m a elementary school teacher and so are most my friends, it’s simply a hobby, I don’t think Droobli is the next Ebay and I don’t think anyone is going to get rich quick with Droobli or actually get rich period with Droobli. Just for fun

584. Comment by dublinscam | March 26th, 2009

     droobli is a scam. There is no doubt about it. Nothing you pro- Droobli, brainwashed idiots can say to convince me otherwise. I deal with real businesses not phony pieces of shit that try and take innocent peoples money. So Woody you might make some chump change here and there but the people you recruit are probably wasting their money because most of them do not even have a fundamental understanding of internet marketing. I hope it makes you feel good to waste $800 OF their money, and the dream of droobli being the next biggest thing is what fuels you conscience to move forward, I suggest you stick to Elementary school teaching and stay out of the business world.

585. Comment by Woody | March 26th, 2009

     Are you not reading my comments? Of course I’m sticking with teaching, and I don’t think Droobli is the next big thing. And I don’t think you’re a real business man, I think you work at Kentucky Fried Chicken as a shift manager and you need anger management or a lady friend. Gene your web site is awesome! i would love to learn how to build a site like that.

586. Comment by beavis | March 26th, 2009

     Woody,

     If droobliscam turns out to be a shift manager at Kentucky Fried Chicken, how come he figured out that this is a scam and you didn’t?I mean, come on; they’ve been pitching this stupid auction shtick since ‘03 or ‘04 and hardly anyone participates. You sign up new recruits, they hang out for a while and leave; that is the real business model. And Droobli corporate picks up a fat check for delivering a lame auction website (something that barely passes for a real product) and selling “credits”. I hate MLM’s but this is a joke of an operation. The next eBay? I think it’s more like the next “virtual golf”.

587. Comment by me | March 26th, 2009

     Unfortunately Most people who post here simply do not understand the GroobLi business model. I have been involved in GroobLi for 2 months, part time, and in month 2 am thankful for the 5 figure check I am generating. I also know there are about a dozen people in my immediate group making 5 figures in their 1st month…Why?… we all understand the value based proposition to the customer… which is where the real money is made on the viral, and perpetual marketing to an amazing shopping portal about to open in the US. We have over 100,000 brands ready to go, are partnered with over 500 major stores, including Best Buy, Wal Mart, Dick’s Sporting Goods, Starbucks…obviously can’t list all. The customers will start and end all of their Shopping at GroobLi because of the Value…Period. I have never been desperate to sell a license, and have only showed the site to a few people as a customer, and what is in it for them…(PsssT!)By the way, The Auctions, Shopping Portal, Shops, and Community are only 25% of the business model. Which you have not seen yet because we actually launch on April 4th 2009.

588. Comment by Woody | March 26th, 2009

     Beavis, Frankly I think you’re a scam, I think you might be involved in starting this blog and you just want people to keep blogging, I think you change your name and just keep on saying the sky is falling, and I don’t take it personally I think it’s actually a neat business, but come on dude, would you really be this emotionally invested in this site unless you had something to gain. This is actually my first experience with any kind of blog, and it’s a lot of fun, but it’s fun the way video games are fun, it’s just a great way to waste time, and guys like us can be bold and brave knowing in our heart we would never talk to someone like this in person, I don’t know you and you don’t know me, and that’s the way it will stay, so if you are involved GREAT! Keep up the good work, I’ll keep blogging,it’s free and there’s no way to get anyone pregnant.

589. Comment by Woody | March 26th, 2009

     By the way there is no such person named Woody, It’s Charlie Drayer here in Maui, I just used my wife’s E-mail address to log on. I haven’t figured out my next character yet, I think the next guy may be A Ninja with the CIA, Oh wait I already played that guy didn’t I?!

590. Comment by Woody | March 26th, 2009

     Maybe a coffee Millionaire? Damn, I’m fresh out of ideas.

591. Comment by beavis | March 26th, 2009

     How about a mime?

592. Comment by beavis | March 26th, 2009

     “me” said:
     “(PsssT!)By the way, The Auctions, Shopping Portal, Shops, and Community are only 25% of the business model. Which you have not seen yet because we actually launch on April 4th 2009.”

     I think Droobli should move it up three days.

593. Comment by Woody | March 26th, 2009

     How about a Mime. I have to say that’s a good one, all kidding aside.

594. Comment by Woody | March 26th, 2009

     I will blog again Beavis and you will respond.

595. Comment by Gene | March 26th, 2009

     Beav that’s a good one. LOL Certainly don’t want to
     go an extra day and go out like a lion.

596. Comment by me | March 26th, 2009

     Very entertaining guys…I can see why you are addicted.
     After a hard days work (2 hrs) this is a good way to relax.
     To go out like a lyin’ would be worse though…
     Loins are the king of the jungle…

597. Comment by me | March 26th, 2009

     for the serous entrepreneur looking for info…
     The high rankings in the search engines are very profitable for the owners of this site, and now will be for you…
     shoot am email: ecopure7 at yahoo.com (yes that is supposed to be a symbol) I will get you going in the fastest growing group in the business…

598. Comment by Lazbit | March 26th, 2009

     For all of you Droobli Kool Aid drinkers that claim you’re pulling in 5 figure income each month, the only way that’s remotely possible is by signing up other people that you’ve duped in to thinking that somehow this business will work out. If you can take that money in good conscience and still feel proud, rather than ashamed… well, I guess the AIG guys that kept their bonuses found some way to rationalize that too.

     I know you’re not making money from the auctions, because the volume has been and will continue to be pathetic. You’ve been up and running for _6 months_ for God’s sake. And this is all you can manage? Really?? Twitter, Facebook, and other sites that relied purely on word-of-mouth marketing (zero advertising) saw 600-1000% growth from launch in that time frame. They did that by offering something valuable that people wanted and told their friends about. People look at your site and say, “Is that it.. Really? And I’ve got to PAY just to see a price?.. Screw it, I’m just going to PriceGrabber.” And that’s why you’ve barely risen above 10% traffic growth in that time. Your current volume could scarcely pay one person five figures per month.

     And _this_ is where you pin your hope for generating buzz and traffic to drive a later shopping portal site? Yeah, good luck with that.

     The reality is, Droobli will fail in the US, just as it has in Denmark, Spain, and Germany. The founders and a few other parasites higher up in the pyramid will walk away and laugh, just as they did before. And they’ll start over again, probably in a non-English speaking country, touting their amazing success in the US, and looking for a new crop of suckers to fleece.

     I’ll say one thing for MonaVie – at least the folks that got fooled into buying the juice have some nice looking bottles in their fridge. Instead of worthless virtual ‘credits’.

599. Comment by Charlie | March 26th, 2009

     “ME” I like Droobli as much as the next guy but 5 figures for 5 or more people? 2 hour workdays? Come on dude.

600. Comment by me | March 27th, 2009

     Of course Lazbit there is low volume…We have no customer base until the actual launch. There are only about 4500 licensees who have looked at a few auctions…when we release 30-40 million credits to the marketplace, that was always the plan. Join me on a webinar, and you will actually know what is going on, and avoid the mistake of missing the boat because of a few bad apples. And yes…I said 5 figures…those #’s above are true, no embarrassment there. But they pale in comparison to what is made on the customer phase, which is what this is all about after all. A lot of people do not share what they make because they get duped into bad opportunities.

601. Comment by Mark | March 27th, 2009

     With now over 600 posts to this thread alone, it’s difficult to find the answers to a particular question, so maybe someone can tell me…

     1…The name of their attorney, auditor, accounting firm or accountant? Who is doing their books/counting their money?

     I only ask because I want to check and make sure it isn’t David Friehling (Bernie Madoff’s Accountant). Someone without a criminal record would be preferred.

     2…Does one need to constantly wrangle in new clients every year in order to make money, or do I become a stock holder and rake in the bucks once I’m in and this thing takes off?

     I’m wondering if this is going to be a flash fire like many MLM deals or if it’s going to be another google/youtube wildfire burning out of control with no end in site??

     Thanks & Peace!

     Mark-

602. Comment by dublinscam | March 27th, 2009

     this is so fun. and woody i am glad you found out i was a Kentucky fried chicken manager- good research. I have actually worked all around the world as a consultant and have worked more places than you have visited. Lets see this summer i was in prague(nice place btw), paris, london, kona, and forte dei marmi to name a few. my business advisers have launched global Microsoft outsourcing in the 90’s (btw a 37 billion dollar sector) and now works under one of the richest men on the planet. I showed my adviser this and he just about wet his pants with laughter. He said (in his words) “don’t even think of wasting your time”

603. Comment by dublinscam | March 27th, 2009

     mark…look at the track record and visit the site for yourself. http://us.droobli.com/ it has been up and running for years and nothing special has happened but hey join in on the fun w this blog. it is a good way to waste an extra 30 minutes a day oh yeah check this site for the poor amount of traffic it really gets: http://www.alexa.com/

604. Comment by dublinscam | March 27th, 2009

     ok, ok so i went and redeemed my 20 free credits from someone that is trying to get me to sign up. Ha, are you kidding- there is such a limited stock it is ridiculous. I can see how people will become addicted and piss their money away because they want bullshit products with the hope of being the lowest bidder. Now that i have actually tried it I can officially say: SCAM, SCAM, SCAM- that is it!

605. Comment by Gene | March 27th, 2009

     Kentucky fried chicken manager,

     Well I just better throw my credits in the air big guy. LOL
     You found us out. Nothing to your liking. Well I can agree for the most part. Hope they get somethings that interest me up there. I have a lot of credits. Although I did get a nice electric scooter for my son. Looking forward for the shop/store to launch.

606. Comment by dublinscam | March 27th, 2009

     Hey Gene, have you been on the site lately? Do you know about affiliate marketing online? Do you know anyone can resell costco, walmart, chanel, or any other product in the world on their own website. Apparently you have never heard of linkshare.com. you think the business model is so special. really it isn’t and the $3000 you spent could be made with you own proprietary site that droobli doesn’t brand. Hey I got an idea- why don’t you start a scooter store? If you need help finding a scooter manufacture that offers affiliate sales opportunities I can help you. Just let me know

607. Comment by Gene | March 27th, 2009

     Hey maybe. I got this in my email. http://www.cactussky.com/esat/cincinnatimini/02/video.html
     We do have this offered on the auction site. Nice car good mileage and it’s the convertible. I wonder what the price is at now. You know I could still take you up on your scooter offer and sell it in my marketplace with the company. I have thought of that already. Not the scooter but. LOL Someone did mention doba. That could work with this too very well. It can work with a lot of business. The thing is, is getting customers to your site. I think the auctions are a great way to do it no matter how you look at it.

608. Comment by me | March 27th, 2009

     Mark,
     In the short time I’ve known about GroobLi, I have been repeatedly impressed by the way this company has anticipated needs and challenges, and taken action to prepare for them. That preparation includes making sure that everything the company does is legal and won’t be challenged in court. One second of common sense would suggest that if there were a risk of breaking ANY laws, a company that spent a fortune introducing a business to the USA probably had the foresight to pay attorneys to make sure they weren’t breaking any laws – which GroobLi did, hiring Grimes & Reese (http://www.mlmlaw.com/), a top law firm, which is explained on page 18-19 of the latest GroobLi magazine (PDF at http://www.yourdroobliworld.com).

     Besides hiring a top law firm, here are some other things to consider to make sure the GroobLi business is solid and long-term:

609. Comment by me | March 27th, 2009

     Dr. Charles King, Ph.D., Harvard-educated marketing professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC, listed under “King” and also in the Faculty Directory PDF at http://www.uic.edu/cba/Documents/Faculty_listing.pdf), who teaches network marketing to University students and is author of the book “The New Professionals,” has made an intense study of the network marketing industry, and he is the co-founder of “The GroobLi Academy,” a training program where GroobLi licensees learn how to build a successful business, free of charge. The back cover of his book describes him: “Charles W. King received his doctorate in business administration from Harvard and is currently a professor of marketing at the University of Illinois in Chicago. He is involved in extensive, ongoing research on network marketing and distributor operations.” If GroobLi were unstable or a potential scam, Dr. King certainly would not have associated his name and reputation with the company. He’d lose all credibility if GroobLi is deemed to be illegal.

610. Comment by beavis | March 27th, 2009

     “me” said:

     “a company that spent a fortune introducing a business to the USA ”

     Don’t tell me, you believe they spent 80 million on software, too. As Bugs Bunny would say, “what a maroon”.

     “me” also said:

     “If GroobLi were unstable or a potential scam, Dr. King certainly would not have associated his name and reputation with the company. He’d lose all credibility if GroobLi is deemed to be illegal.”

     You don’t know what Dr. King would do; you are guessing. A Harvard or any Ivy League diploma is no guarantee of ethics or good judgment. Look at Donald Trump pimping for ACN. Trump doesn’t love ACN; he loves their paycheck. You are just too gullible.

     I take back the “gullible” comment. You’re comments are not those of an independent thinker, but they smell, no they wreak, of a Droobli corporate type. You’re trying to come off as one of the Kool Aide drinkers; you’re serving the Kool Aide, dude. Your comment:

     “I have been repeatedly impressed by the way this company has anticipated needs and challenges, and taken action to prepare for them.”

     No one but a suit would have phrased it that way. Now, Gene may be a Kool Aide drinker but at least he doesn’t lie about it. Even Charlie, who lies his ass off about his personal life, doesn’t lower himself to your level.

611. Comment by me | March 28th, 2009

     The comment was obviously for people who were interested in unbiased facts…with which I have always made my business decisions.
     Done very well by the way.
     That is why I do not waste time on this site.
     There are always people who you deal with in the populous who are pre-determined, and communicate from emotion driven points of view… steered by people who spark and feed the fire of misinformation.
     Glad you came out of the woodwork Beavis.
     I understand that you are simply a victim of this scenario.

     Productive dialogue is the way to go…lets keep it that way

612. Comment by dublinscam | March 28th, 2009

     when are there going to be more than 5 items in the zero auction?

613. Comment by me | March 28th, 2009

     Interesting that my answer to question 611 was deleted…
     Goes to show you where the actual spin is…

614. Comment by Charlie | March 28th, 2009

     One thing i found a bit wacky when I signed up with Droobli in September for $800.00 right on my computer screen along with my associate I.D. # it said congratulations on joining Droobli enjoy your “one year membership” I haven’t really asked anyone about it but am to gather that in one year I’ll pay another $800 or whatever level you buy in at, does anyone know? Your right Beavis I have told some fibs on this site only because it’s so much fun, But I actually do live in Maui and I did buy my house with Life Insurance money and on Maui I’m known as a pretty stand up guy, but truth be told I’m bummed about droobli I signed up one person and I’ve felt guilty ever since, I thought I was in on the next big thing, but so far nothing of the sort, but in all fairness I haven’t tried to tell anyone about Droobli, I have friends in Vegas who say they are making money and swear by Droobli, but I haven’t seen a penny. MLM’s have never really worked on Maui, I still have hope but I’m very realistic, I was given 1100 droobli credits when I signed up as a business associate so I guess I I goy $880.00 worth of credits which I used to buy a Ipod and a Ipod player The Ipod cost $5.00 and the Player cost $1.00 but it took 1050 droobli credits to get that price so actually I paid about $800.00 for an Ipod Nano, don’t get me wrong I wish everyone luck with Droobli and I’m not trying to turn anyone away from Droobli but like I said I’m realistic, and I do agree there’s not much to buy on the auction site. I’ll miss the arguing and personal jabs but I figured it’s time to come clean, if anyone can help me with Droobli let me know how I’m all ears.

615. Comment by Gene | March 28th, 2009

     Hey Beav didn’t bugs say , what’s up doc? I could ask you the same to you. I don’t believe in name dropping and I think the company can stand on it’s own as a great business model and I don’t drink kool aid but I do agree with me. LOL And it doesn’t go unnoticed how you attempt to slight me and again everyone can see it. It doesn’t show a lot of savvy there Beav.
     I mean if you want to play with your doba with the company you can indeed do so in the marketplace. The company has made a way for us to get customers. If not, the auctions wouldn’t work at all. How many people do you think it takes to pay 25 cents to complete an auction? What do you do besides raise foolish talk on a simple blog? Are you drinking too much kool aid with the aspartame in it? Better watch out I think you might also have too much of the artificial coloring in it. Could be coloring your world. Oh Eagle are you making any money? Beav your going to be so disappointed. That’s if this economy doesn’t just fall apart I mean how they going to bail us out next year. Or are they even doing it now? It wouldn’t be the company’s fault then now would it? But if the economy holds together for a couple more years the company surly will prosper along with those who were smart enough to see the vision. Just look at these auctions, zero auction LG 26LG40 LCD if a person bid just once it’d take 2,276 bids or people. Nintendo DS Lite white 720 bids or people. Now with the xpress auction Apple TV 40GB Let’s see it would be 800 bids or people iPod nano- chromatic 16 GB 4G what is it 564 bids or people. Then the unique bid Sony Portable Digital E- Book and Toshiba R500- S5008X boy did they save a lot on that, what was it OK here $909 starting price and sold for $331.50
     Not including the unique there were a potential of 22,360 bids or people. Now this is just scratching the surface a fraction of what’s coming. Granted there isn’t a lot of action but there is action and it’s not a scam. People are getting good deals and you have to understand there’s got to be a lot of customers waiting in the wings who aren’t bidding but there there.

616. Comment by Charlie | March 28th, 2009

     What’s up Gene? I checked out your site and it looks awesome, your sons look healthy and happy you should be proud of yourself, Did you get my question about the one year membership? Do you know what that is, I’m curious does that mean I’ll pay another $800 in September? I got a bunch of E-Mails from people who saw my comments on this site and they swear by Droobli even willing to show commissions and earnings, I am still interested It’s just that I’m 3000 miles away from anyone who knows anything about Droobli.

617. Comment by Gene | March 28th, 2009

     Charlie,

     Go to my site and listen to 11-06-08 Dean Mannheimer this may help you. Don’t listen to the scamapedia here. It’s going to take some work. When the customer base grows, as it will, it’s going to be crazy if things work as planned. Do something with what ya have.

     Have you asked your upline for help? Email me if you like. Oh yes if you came in at 800 you will have to buy another package of credits but by then you can sell what you have and you will want more. It’s what you have for advertising.
     Look if you started an online store you’d have to find a way to get customers. That’s not an easy task believe me. But with the auctions it makes it a whole lot easier. Especially when your customers start bringing in more customers after April. Just start working on your customer base and go to the webinars for a bit. Invite your people in the back office to the auctions. I think me posted a link with a list of webinars and there is one you can get on tomorrow.
     Oh and if any out there are just happening across this blog let me or Charlie help you get started. It’s going to be big. But then again it may not. That’s what you do when you start a business. You never know but I do think the concept is great.

618. Comment by Charlie | March 28th, 2009

     Thanks Gene, I’m actually getting a little excitement back, I think “Me” sent me an E-mail he may actually come to Maui and hold a couple of meetings. Thanks again.

619. Comment by Gene | March 28th, 2009

     Charlie,

     YW!
     Go to your network site and check the meeting calendar.
     You will want to check for Dean’s National call. I think
     it’s a 15 min call. On Monday.

620. Comment by Gene | March 28th, 2009

     Hey maybe we can make this blog a q&a for the company! LOL

621. Comment by Gene | March 28th, 2009

     Hey me what was your 611 question. Email me. Just curious.

622. Comment by beavis | March 28th, 2009

     Gene,

     I listened to Dean Mannheimer’s webinar on your site and I’m excited, too. He talked about “exponential growth” and all sorts of neat stuff. The Titanic is truly unsinkable!

623. Comment by me | March 28th, 2009

     Just helping Charlie Gene, as you are.
     I love your idea about this blog being a Q & A for GroobLi!
     There are too many people who just do not know the business model. Our immediate group grew to 1000 people in 3 months because of some awesome people who do.
     Yes Dean is great…it is all there… in addition you can plug into some awesome group webinars on our site: http://www.YourDroobliWorld.com... tools, training, etc.

624. Comment by me | March 28th, 2009

     3 steps to exponential growth…

     1) use the “what to say script” on smartwinshop.com
     2) invite to a webinar…ONLY if they ask..if not they get free credits and become a customer
     3) follow-up (they will need to see several webinars, and see a more advanced webinar perhaps by Tom Ashlock for example

     Do not be needy… keep it simple
     cheers…

625. Comment by Charlie | March 28th, 2009

     Actually my upline is great about letting me know about all the national calls and webinars, I’ve just been ignoring them up until now, but I think I’m going to start exploring again, I mean why not? You guys should think about putting together a blog that’s a little more pro droobli. Do you know of one? A blog where you could get some real information and not all the bickering and sarcasm, like I said I’m new to blogging, I’ve decided as a personal rule, I won’t say anything on this site that I wouldn’t say to someone’s face. I read my previous comments and I cringe.

626. Comment by Vince | March 28th, 2009

     I understand where everyone is coming from on here. What I dont understand is, why after spending a hour on this site its all the same guys on here yapping and yapping away. Like I said I understand what everyone is saying but, honestly I feel like im sitting in a mens rest stop reading the crap in the stall… I believe droobli will do great things in the US. The business model looks like a winner to me, but who am I just a lil speck… I like what I see with droobli and believe when this things hits its gonna be as sweet to me as a walk off grand slam at the world series… Hearing We are the Champions in the background… I just believe in the American story and this will be one…. Im not looking for a battle on here just had to say my peace of mind after a hour of yap, yap,yap….

627. Comment by beavis | March 28th, 2009

     gag me

628. Comment by beavis | March 28th, 2009

     I wrote a new song. It goes exactly like the “Lumberjack Song” except you insert “Drooblidiot”! You have to say “Drooblidiot” quickly, though, because it has four syllables.

629. Comment by Gene | March 28th, 2009

     I thought of a blog. I’ll think more on that.

630. Comment by Charlie | March 28th, 2009

     Vince, Yapping is what a blog is for, if there was audio I would sing you a song, maybe the lumberjack song (big monty python fan) but it’s just a silly little blog, and what the hell is wrong with yapping anyway? I’m a Droobliidiot and I’m O.K.

631. Comment by beavis | March 29th, 2009

     charlie,

     pull my finger

632. Comment by eaglescout | March 29th, 2009

     To “me”,

     Interesting that my answer to question 611 was deleted…
     Goes to show you where the actual spin is…

     I haven’t deleted any of your comments. Maybe you forgot to click the submit button?

     I may not like what you have to say, but I rarely delete comments. I deleted one comment by t. proia a long time ago and I edited one of dream team’s.

633. Comment by me | March 29th, 2009

     Eaglescout…thanx.
     I do appreciate that. Hmmm…I just submitted another comment and it reverted back to the google search page, definitely something on my end, had to trick it with a new tab.

634. Comment by Charlie | March 29th, 2009

     Beavis, I doubt I’d have to pull your finger to get hot air out of you.

635. Comment by newbie | March 29th, 2009

     All,
     Just want to say I have research this through multiple channels including the FBI… There has been no complaints against this organization. It is a MLM model but has many options for the customer. Auctions are only one piece, 700 store shopping experience to start april 5, online gaming (video games) site, personal space. The national conference is in Arizona next week. For a so called scam it sure has a lot of backing!!! Look at jordinsparkscharities.com. She made 5000 for the needy in dec alone…

636. Comment by beavis | March 29th, 2009

     newbie,

     That’s great; a “700 store shopping experience to start april 5, online gaming (video games) site, personal space” put together by a company that can’t drive traffic to their existing site. How do I get on board?

     And Jordan Sparks! Wow, if a 19 year old singer is involved that is an iron clad endorsement. That’s as good as T. Boone Pickens calling it!

     Are you guys questioning anything they tell you? Droobli’s track record shows a consistent pattern of failure to drive traffic. And we certainly need another shopping portal; how original. Online gaming? Who’s the coding team or are they just acting as a portal (once again, the guys that can’t drive traffic doing a portal, please). Personal Space? Who’s coding it and what is the draw? And don’t tell me the auction traffic will build these as the auction traffic can’t even build itself.

637. Comment by beavis | March 29th, 2009

     I take it all back. I found out how Droobli is going to gain worldwide attention. In 2010 they are planning a joint moon mission with an unnamed former member of the USSR (rhymes with “Prussia”). They will also be the only portal for all Chinese exports. And the Euro will be be replaced by Droobli credits in the same year along with the yen (the tremendous Droobli success in Germany has already made the Deuchmark obsolete). And the new shopping portal will be a bigger success than eBay and Google combined. Please buy your credits now or you will miss out!

638. Comment by beavis | March 29th, 2009

     And I forgot; Jordan Sparks is writing all of the software for the online gaming and video site!

639. Comment by me | March 29th, 2009

     “beavis”
     How do you know they do not drive traffic to their site? I will educate you kindly…

     Here is an answer to a statement I read earlier…

     “GroobLi doesn’t even register when you compare traffic analysis.”

     That’s true, but the claim is made out-of-context because the analysis comes from public web metrics companies (like Google or Alexa) who don’t measure traffic that comes through “personal home pages.” Most GroobLi customers visit droobli.com via a Business Associate’s individual website link (i.e., droobli.com/xxxxxxx). By their own admission, most web metrics companies do not count what they classify as “personal home pages,” which are treated separately if they can be automatically identified as such from the URLs in question, which is the case with any Business Associate’s droobli.com/xxxxxxx link.

     Not to mention the fact that in the US we WILL not drive traffic to the site until April 4th… Just as planned.

     Glad to help.

640. Comment by Gene | March 29th, 2009

     Hey Beav what’s up Doc. You lose already but you keep gasping for air. That’s OK you need some kind of hope.

641. Comment by beavis | March 29th, 2009

     “me”
     So what you are telling me is the low site traffic measurements are actually higher. OK I’ll let you have that as it just makes the dismally poor auction traffic, which is published on Droobli’s site, all the more pathetic. And you’re playing games with the April marketing launch routine as Droobli announced the launch to be initially scheduled for September 28th, 2008 (I believe it was delayed a few days) with no mention that the company was not making an effort to push the site. That date has come and gone with precious little to show for it. As the months ticked by and traffic failed to appear, the company then came up with the excuse that it really wasn’t pushing it because of the shopping portal. What is the next excuse going to be? Oh, and why is the European site sucking so bad? You know, the European site with the “success” that Droobli US is based upon? You guys get confronted with all of these facts and all you ever respond with is fluff and unsupported projections. It will all come next month and when mext month comes and goes another “launch” date will appear. Wash, rinse, repeat.

642. Comment by beavis | March 29th, 2009

     “Hi” Gene!

643. Comment by Charlie | March 29th, 2009

     Beavis, have you given any thought to what you’re going to do just incase Droobli becomes something great? You’re the most outspoken person on this site, I’ve been on the phone all day getting re-acquainted with Droobli and this thing is real and it’s not going away any time soon, so what about you? You mentioned in comment 581 about quietly disappearing.

644. Comment by Gene | March 29th, 2009

     Good for you Charlie.

645. Comment by beavis | March 29th, 2009

     Charlie,

     No, I’m realizing that you and Gene are going to disappear after reality sinks in and then I’ll be bored. “Me” will continue because he is a company suit (read that as not dependent on earning money like you two are attempting). Unfortunately arguing with him is like arguing with a company brochure. The good news is there will be others; all waiting for the next launch in (insert date here) that will propel Droobli into the stratosphere.

     and Charlie, yes I did say I was taking a break. I lied

646. Comment by Insidious | March 30th, 2009

     I look forward to the GroobLi / Russia joint mission to the moon in 2010. I hear Jordan Sparks will be an honorary member of the crew.

647. Comment by Gene | March 30th, 2009

     Yes, be sure to check for the rockets on the auction site. Oh and make sure you get your moon boots.

648. Comment by beavis | March 30th, 2009

     Insidious,
     The first Droobli mission to the moon will also include company issued fembots (like the corporate parrot “Me”). It should launch soon as it is being financed by the hugely successful Droobli auction site in Europe.

     gene,

     Go ahead and head on out for the moon. Droobli can deliver your moon boots from their robot operated distribution center there (secretly launched two years ago but will become well known after the April 4th viral marketing campaign).

649. Comment by Gene | March 30th, 2009

     OK so

650. Comment by beavis | March 30th, 2009

     ummm, your still here, Gene. Off to the moon with you. Shoo!

651. Comment by Gene | March 30th, 2009

     Oh Oh

652. Comment by beavis | March 31st, 2009

     Hey, I was at drooblinetwork.com and the buildings they are showing in the US don’t match up with Google Earth; neither does the Denmark location. The US location is especially lower brow than the pictures they substituted in. Pretty cheesy.

653. Comment by Gene | March 31st, 2009

     Oh spin more

654. Comment by beavis | March 31st, 2009

     You definitely wouldn’t mistake their headquarters for class a office space, that’s for sure. The downstairs units have loading docks

655. Comment by Gene | March 31st, 2009

     You don’t say

656. Comment by 2smart4Dublin | March 31st, 2009

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9CqnJHxaqY&feature=related

     Here you go Charlie! Soon you can have the success of Jonathan Bud (lasers and smoke machines… drumroll) and…

     you and Gene are retards… I guess that’s where I’m going with that….

     “Hey Beav what’s up Doc. You lose already but you keep gasping for air. That’s OK you need some kind of hope.”

     How ironic, Gene, that you think Beav needs hope of some kind. We stand only to gain great personal satisfaction from your fast approaching failure. You stand to lose your investment, AND the respect of everyone you CONNED into becoming involved.

     Good Idea Me, in regards to going to Maui to hold some conference with Charlie. Charlie is just as likely to be living in Toronto as anywhere else he may have pretended he lives. I’m sure that the value of the plane ticket will be insignificant when you weigh it against the benefit of all the new associates you could gather, and the incredibly gay hand job that Charlie would give you, had he actually lived there.

     I am soooo excited about the big viral launch. Gene will you PLEASE come on here and acknowledge how ignorant (and easily manipulated) you have been? Not likely right, you will be on the phone all week apologizing to “Mom” and your siblings. Maybe not. Maybe it will just be another notch on the old failure belt for you two morons.

     Stop involving people in your crap. At least Charlie has the sense to cease recruiting more people.

     Gene is so gullable this is probably one on a long list of embarrassment and disgrace. April 4th boys. And don’t try to blame it on the economy. Last time I checked online gamblers weren’t the investing types anyhow…. LOL

657. Comment by beavis | March 31st, 2009

     2smart4droobli,

     As bad as that video was, I do think he knows his audience. Give them a vision of being in the Sun (no matter how unsteady the camera work is), gloss over the financials, babble about “self love” as if he were some kind of a prophet and direct them to his site; mission accomplished.

658. Comment by beavis | March 31st, 2009

     OK, I’m going after the ACN dickwads. At least they have some reason to cling to their beliefs. I know, the product has a super limited market and Donald “The Media Whore” Trump adds zero credibility but it is a ton more than what these Droobli believers have got. I mean, the company “launched” in 2003 and has nothing to show for it except an auction website that no one seems interested in and this ridiculous idea that the unsuccessful auction site will drive people to a shopping portal. It’s just too stupid for words. Their offices are bargain basement, the claims of “future” success are so stratospheric that anyone who actually takes them seriously is either desperate or has reached a level of gullibility that only a cold blooded sociopath could truly appreciate (oh, wait, that’s Droobli corporate). Don’t worry, I’ll be back. It’s just that beating on Drooblidiots is becoming less and less of a challenge. I mean really, how long can you keep waiting or the next “launch” to suddenly drive Droobli to the heights that Droobli corporate keeps talking about (and, oh, do they talk; very little action; lot’s of talk). I’m not even going to wait for the April 4th “launch”. It will be a non-event except you will here more Droobli feel good rhetoric. It is time the Genes of the world realize that their is no get rich quick scheme that involves little work for insanely high rewards. Google and Microsoft were brilliant in what they did; their products impacted the world. Droobli hasn’t got that talent; not even close. Just a bunch of confidence men that could probably have played themselves in Glen Garry Glen Ross.

659. Comment by Jeff | April 1st, 2009

     I am not affiliated with GroobLi, although I am considering it. This site has provided some interesting, and some not-so-interesting, information. However, what I find most troubling is the constant bashing of GroobLi’s goal of becoming the next eBay. Would you have also criticized Wal-Mart when it aimed to outdo Kmart? Or how about Microsoft when it went up against Apple? Best Buy vs. Circuit City? And my favorite: how about two 20-something grad students at Stanford who said they were going to beat out Yahoo?

     I am not saying that GroobLi will be the next eBay, frankly the odds are against it, but to claim that proof of this is the current 99.7% to 0.3% market share is absurd; at one time Yahoo had 99.7% to 0.3% market share over Google.

660. Comment by Robbie | April 2nd, 2009

     Hello Jeff ‘The Next Sockpuppet.’ For anyone following this discussion, formulaic pseudo-comments like yours are easy to see through and actually strengthen my belief that Droobli has nothing to say and their only agenda is to rip a few poor souls off.
     Thanks for your contribution.

661. Comment by undercoverbeavis | April 2nd, 2009

     I’m thinking of becoming a Drooblidiot, too. It looks like a great way to make money with this can’t miss concept. Go Droobli!

662. Comment by Lazbit | April 3rd, 2009

     Only one more day till the “Launch”. Can’t wait to see Droobli finally take off. Given the insane success of their efforts in Spain and Germany (cough), I’m sure traffic will be off the charts.

     Bit of an odd day to put out a new product tho… should have really consulted with a PR or marketing expert on that. No media coverage until Monday at the earliest. The only people I know that launch things on late Friday afternoons or Saturdays are politicians that hope nobody notices some crappy bill they sneaked in. But I’m sure the success will be so resounding, it won’t matter.

663. Comment by undercoverbeavis | April 3rd, 2009

     Less than an hour till launch day. I’m all atwitter! This is going to be huge, just like a BBW porn flick!

664. Comment by Ryan | April 4th, 2009

     happy droobli day everyone!

     i guess i gotta admit, now that it’s launched, it’s a wholllle new animal!

665. Comment by 2smart4Dublin | April 4th, 2009

     Congratulations Gene

     4 Successful auctions so far today. Great launch!

666. Comment by Lazbit | April 4th, 2009

     Let’s see, it’s 7pm and they’re up to.. what’s this?? 8! That’s 2 more completed auctions than yesterday! Ka-ching! I sure was wrong about Droobli. New launch = glorious success. I can hear the wails of fear and terror from eBay’s headquarters in San Jose all the way back here in Texas.

     On a darker note, the latest issue of Wired magazine seems to be giving away Droobli’s business plan:

     http://www.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/magazine/17-04/st_howto

667. Comment by beavis | April 4th, 2009

     hmmm. . . nothing happened. . . no viral campaign. . . no press releases. . . no Goodyear blimp with Droobli lit up on the side of it. I guess they LIED! Well, I guess all those who signed up are just screwed. Oh, the humanity.

     Can you make phone calls with Droobli tokens? Gene has to call a few people.

668. Comment by beavis | April 4th, 2009

     The party’s over
     It’s time to call it a day
     They’ve burst your pretty balloon
     And taken the moon away
     It’s time to wind up the masquerade
     Just make your mind up the piper must be paid

     The party’s over
     The candles flicker and dim
     You danced and dreamed through the night
     It seemed to be right just being with him
     Now you must wake up, all dreams must end
     Take off your makeup, the party’s over
     It’s all over, my friend

     The party’s over

     It’s time to call it a day

     Now you must wake up, all dreams must end
     Take off your makeup, the party’s over
     It’s all over, my friend

     It’s all over, my friend

669. Comment by beavis | April 4th, 2009

     “You do not want to delay on this! On April 4, 2009, customers and team members will be given free tokens. Droobli is giving out 7 Million tokens and you can not get any, if you are not a customer or team member. So you need to get going today! ”

     bullshit

     and double bullshit

670. Comment by Charlie | April 4th, 2009

     Beavis who the hell are you talking to? Out of the last 15 comments 10 are yours, now it’s just become sad brother.

671. Comment by Ryan | April 4th, 2009

     this is because the drooblidiots are strangely silent…? off enjoying their millions, i suppose.

672. Comment by beavis | April 4th, 2009

     Lashing out, are we, Charlie? Wasn’t this whole “launch” day a real kick in the nuts? I mean, even the most fervent Drooblidiot would have to see that they have just been had. I would hate to say “I told you so”, but, honestly, I wouldn’t hate it all. In fact, “I told you so, m o r o n”!

673. Comment by beavis | April 4th, 2009

     I think we need to seriously start to consider sterilization for the Drooblidiots so that they don’t reproduce.

674. Comment by Charlie | April 5th, 2009

     I have to stick to my rule about saying something on this blog that I wouldn’t say to someone’s face, Beavis I’ve told you I could care a less about Droobli, it’s a hobby at best, you talk like I invested my life savings in this thing, and face it Beavis you would Never call me a moron to my face, you’re a coward, you should at least phone me on a unrestricted number and I’ll bet you would sing a different tune, Charlie Drayer (808)264-7114 I’ll hold my breath coward.

675. Comment by Charlie | April 5th, 2009

     The only ones who should have been sterile were your parents.

676. Comment by 2smart4Dublin | April 5th, 2009

     Guys don’t you know? They were so quiet yesterday because they were all at the Jordin Sparks concert. There was popcorn and singing and dancing, and while they were there, they achieved financial freedom. HAHAHAHAHA I wonder where Gene has been? Telling people about his sons scooter again no doubt, or more likely in small claims court with his wife dividing up their Droobli credits and equity in their third mortgage. Charlie you’re a moron, and now your phone # will be submitted to every telemarketer I can get it to, to punish your ignorance. Good thing you have your pretend coffee investments to fall back on.

677. Comment by 2smart4Dublin | April 5th, 2009

     I would just like to point out that the auctions continue to be so ghetto that one of the successful auctions, for an “iMac 20″ yesterday, had the clip art for a Mac mini. Questionable at BEST…. LOL.

     http://us.droobli.com/Apple-iMac-20-inch__5e_1193

     OH YEAH!? Where is the shopping portal? I don’t see it anywhere… and what were the marketing “millions” for, more Droobli propaganda online? Oh no! They didn’t lie t you did they Gene? Maybe they meant they were using Droobli credits for the marketing campaign, so they were only getting $0.25 on the dollar? What a transparent joke you clowns have become. Good work on still being here to make my day though.

678. Comment by beavis | April 5th, 2009

     charlie,

     oh, never mind.

679. Comment by beavis | April 5th, 2009

     On second thought Charlie, you need to hear this. We all tried to warn you and get you to not pursue this and to not recruit friends and family into this. You are the one that started the rude insults and just because you got some back don’t expect sympathy from anyone. I’m sorry you lost money on this “investment” to the scum, but don’t direct your anger at us; direct it at the scammers who took your money.

     Gene,

     You need to get this handled with the people you recruited. Honesty quickly delivered will limit your damage (take it from an ex-stock broker; not all of my calls were winners either). Continued denial and hoping Droobli pulls a rabbit out of its ass is not a good strategy.

     “Me”

     Hope you go to prison.

680. Comment by beavis | April 5th, 2009

     2smart4droobli,

     You want a real laugh? Here is a release about “Droobli – the US Kickoff Tour”. It’s about the successful launch of Droobli US. . . in October of 2008. At least they had some people in the audience, though I’ve learned to never believe the numbers that Droobli releases (I’m not sure but I believe they lie. . . just a little bit).

     http://blog.drooblitrading.com/#home

     you have to scroll to the middle of the page.

     And in the category of “where is our money now”, I just discovered that Droobli not only has operations in the offshore banking haven of Dubai, but has a “holding company” in the offshore banking haven of Cyprus. It is also well known that its US corporation is set up in Delaware which has some of the most opaque disclosure laws in the US (along with Nevada). I have to give them credit for proper layering of their corporate structures. I don’t see a chance of getting any money our of them in US courts or any court, for that matter. Well, I guess they will now either call it a day and join their money on the beaches or set a new date for a “launch” if they feel they can get away with it. They got stones so it wouldn’t surprise me if they try it again (“wash, rinse, repeat”.

681. Comment by Charlie | April 5th, 2009

     Beavis, I still want to meet you, face to face, This is not a threat, but I will honestly pay for you to come to Maui, if you want to call Bullshit on this Please Do. But if you call me I’ll pay for everything (808) 264-7114, It’s Sunday and I just finished a round of Golf and then a round of drinks with my “friends” who will reamain nameless. Please come to Maui, phone lines are open!

682. Comment by beavis | April 5th, 2009

     To what end? What are you trying to accomplish, Charlie? I think for those involved its over. Granted Droobli will probably continue on and recruit some new vics, but I don’t think you are in denial that Droobli didn’t come through this weekend. Gene has taken a powder, obviously. Move on, stay away from MLMs.

683. Comment by beavis | April 7th, 2009

     Gee, it’s lonely around here. 2smart4droobli, you got a deck of cards? I think they all left.

684. Comment by eaglescout | April 8th, 2009

     You are right. GroobLi is going to wither so slowly that we’ll never get to tell Gene, Charlie, and others that they were fooled by DreamTeam and “me”.

     Or, maybe they’ll launch again “for the first time” in October 2009, and we can all have a get-together and reminisce.

     Deja-vu?

685. Comment by millions | April 8th, 2009

     GroobLi is going to make me millions.

686. Comment by eaglescout | April 8th, 2009

     You must be Michael Brudevold Jensen.

687. Comment by millions | April 8th, 2009

     Haha, you’re funny eaglescout. I laughed when I read your response. So what inspired you to start this academic journal? How did you even hear about GroobLi and why do you know about all these facts? You must have been an insider, right? I have no affiliation with GroobLi but I know people who signed up for it by the way. I’m not saying it’s not a scam and I’m not saying it is. I’m just curious about your motivations. What is inspiring you to warn people about the evils of GroobLi? What’s in it for you? Have you done any other network marketing? I got burned by Burnlounge which turned out to be determined illegal. Thanks eaglescout.

688. Comment by Mikael | April 8th, 2009

     Eaglescout probably looked for an MLM opportunity that would make him money..and came across this gem of an opportunity. Only to find out that it is a true scam!!

     I’ve known successful Monavie Blue Diamonds who also fell for this scam. I met Josh Delaney who swore this would be the biggest thing. He doesn’t say much about it now.

     Thanks for the updates eaglescouts. It just goes to show you that bubbly advertisement and lies go hand and hand with Droobli!!

689. Comment by beavis | April 9th, 2009

     Every MLM I’ve ever had to endure listening to has been a waste of time. This one just really, really sucked. What I can’t believe is none of these fools bothered to look at the traffic from the European site (supposedly the successful basis of the US “launch”). They just went with with every unsubstantiated claim made by the company and went happily along like they were an integral part of a big business that was going to make them all rich. And when it was pointed out that the facts were otherwise, they still remained in denial. Only when the lies and unfulfilled promises became so blatant that an elementary school kid called have called bullshit did the dim bulbs start to flicker. What is it with people? Is greed that blinding?

690. Comment by BeautifulDay | April 9th, 2009

     Most of these people look to make a quick buck even after hearing over and over “if it’s too good to be true, it probably is.”

     Wow! Presented the facts and logic why this is a scam, the Droobli dolts were still dumping a bad product and a definite loss! Sounds familiar these days?

     And then the pretentious Drooblians tried to tell the rest of us ‘idiots’ that we were missing out in the gold pot, endless boating, 72 holes of golf, and W-2 freedom!! “Don’t be such a Haterz!” LOL

691. Comment by beavis | April 9th, 2009

     Let’s see, invest $3199 and within 6 months be earning that per week with minimal effort after which the income grows exponentially with little or no effort on my part; why would that seem too good to be true? All of this based on Droobli supplied “statistics” that showed viral growth from the customers themselves that would increase auction traffic exponentially. But wait, there was no viral growth; the successful auction statics (one of the few verifiable stats available) demonstrated that customers were not growing the system which is what the plan hinged on. Even if there were only a handful of users (which that appears to be the case) if the claim were true the viral growth would have occurred without the make believe national campaign; yet there was no growth. The auction traffic remains stagnant indicating that the product is not desired by the public. Without a desirable product that leaves (drum roll) a pyramid. The moral of the story; if you couldn’t see this pattern you should probably avoid “owning your own business” as most business management requires this rudimentary level of analytical capability and a willingness to do due diligence. Droobli associates fail this test or at least loose this capability when their greed button is pushed. Final recommendation; get a job.

692. Comment by questions | April 9th, 2009

     I have been approached by a couple of individuals in Droobli, and have heard various positives regarding the business from them – however biased. They expressed to me that Droobli stock is available to business partners that join, and that the stock is available only to business partners at this point.

     A couple of the guys that I know personally who are involved in this have shown me that they are making legitimate income on a regular basis. I was curious to know if you guys who have done research on the company have any insights into the stock that is available currently to business partners, as well as any information on how these guys could be making such good money if the website has so little trafic as you’ve mentioned?

     I know the argument has been stated above that the money is made off of “scamming” other people into signing up, but the majority of the money these guys have made is from customers who are using the auction site, as they have very few “business partners” they have signed up.

     I am considering Droobli, although I do have many reservations about it currently, but I wanted more information.

     I would appreciate a serious reply, not a sarcastic and judgmental reply…I understand that pretty much everyone commenting on Droobli is biased against it on this site, but that is why I am asking you for information…I want to know the good and the bad.

     Thanks.

693. Comment by beavis | April 9th, 2009

     The stock is not traded on any board so it is highly illiquid. You have no idea, and I mean no idea, what you are buying into because the company is privately held and doesn’t release financials. How can you make an informed decision on investing in an equity position in a company when you are deprived of the financials? You can’t. Investing in Droobli would be a gamble at that point. And why would you give money over for an investment that will untrackable for years to Offshore Investment Brokers, the company handling the investment end for Droobli, whose primary business is setting up offshore bank accounts; the type of accounts that are most typically used for tax evasion and hiding assets?

     As far as “the guys” you know claim of success that is based on auction traffic; tell them to open their books. In fact, without audited financials, you have nothing to safely base a decision on as financials can be doctored. Without an independant audit or your own personal participation in the high level decisions at Droobli, you are flying blind. The problem with Droobli is the only verifiable stats are the auction traffic numbers and the highly questionable figures the company throws around; most of which are speculative.

     Try looking at it this way; if you were managing someone else’s money, would you feel comfortable explaining to them why you put their money in Droobli considering all of this lack of disclosure and accountability? Then, based on that answer, treat your own money the same way.

694. Comment by L. | April 10th, 2009

     Well all I can say is lots of promises… I bought a gold thinking that droobli was gonna launch a week ago, promises. I was very intersted in the fact this this was a consumer driven business,promises, not get everyone you know involved type of business. I was sold by the “cinch” program which never happened, promises, than the shopping portal, never happened, more promises, now I get a email not even a month into Droobli telling me I only have 127 days left on my membership. Come on, that screams bullshit, so there not even giving you 365 days like they stated that gives me a few months to make money thanks Droobli. Wow, people I consider myself a smart man. Come to find out im a fool who spent 3200 bucks… Im so glad I didnt get a team together… I still have multiple people a day calling me about Droobli to get involved and my answer is when I make money we all will make money.. And honestly im thinking thats all Droobli wants is newcomers who want “in” on the next dream get all excited tell all there friends to sign up, and for what the same webinar everynight that gets old… Ladys and gents fool me once shame on me… Dont be foolish, Droobli is hype, I fell into it…. I hope this helps, I really, really, really, thought this was the next big money maker..

695. Comment by Gene | April 10th, 2009

     Hey just look at all my posts here and it will set you straight about the company. They had to change some things with the powers that be once we came off the European model this April. Unforeseen I expect. Throws a wrench in the works. These jokers just run a hostage site here and hope to try, I say to try, to capitalize on their foul efforts to deceive or bad mouth about a great company. I got the same 127 day email. Don’t sweat it. Must have been a mistake. I’ve been in since September. I came in at gold too. Your website tells you right there how many days you have. They here also try to purport it’s easy money for doing little to nothing and that just isn’t true. What does one think it takes to set up an online store? We’re still rolling out and yes it may take 18 months for things really to start popping. The cinch is coming the end of the month or the first of May. So is the shop. All plans don’t always work right the first time. They’re going to say yeah but you launched in October and again in April well they have no clue on what it takes to get this Internet business going. Be patient. The website is still in beta. It takes some work to build this business. Especially with these fine folk LOL who are trying to tear it down. Oh and you will find they like to bad mouth me too. But who cares. Basically we have a shopping mall which isn’t even up yet so you’re at a very good time to be in. That’s where your profits are going to be as long as you acquire customers. No customers no business. I think that’s usually how it works in business. Now if the shop doesn’t come up you better run. You see as we grow the auctions will attract new customers. It might be slow now but it won’t be. More products will be coming on the auctions. The best prices you can buy on the Internet will be seen in the shopping mall. Make sure to check once it comes on. But don’t wait and see. Get started. Don’t be duped by these guys.

696. Comment by Fox | April 10th, 2009

     I respect L. for admitting his mistake and for warning others about Droobli. I hope there won’t be any more new victims.

     As Gene said, Droobli “…. going to say yeah but you launched in October and again in April well they have no clue on what it takes to get this Internet business going. Be patient.” Ha ha ha! It is obvious now that Droobli really have NO ClLUE on what it takes to get this Internet business GOING. But they know for sure how to make a moneymaker for them.

697. Comment by beavis | April 10th, 2009

     L,

     I think I can speak on behalf of all of the Droobli critics here and say that we are sorry they took advantage of your trust. Speaking for myself, I once wasted time and money in another MLM, so treat it as a learning experience. You did the right thing coming forward.

     Gene,

     I’d like to talk to you about this badger farm idea I have.Most homes are currently badgerless so the market is wide open!

698. Comment by beavis | April 10th, 2009

     Oh, and Gene,

     “We’re still rolling out and yes it may take 18 months for things really to start popping.”

     You get to renew before the “breakout”. That badger farm is calling your name.

699. Comment by Ryan | April 11th, 2009

     i think most of these guys (minus Gene) could build a shopping website in less than a day. especially when you don’t warehouse your own products. even if i couldn’t program it myself, i could have it done for less than 1500 dollars.

     i personally know a couple of drooblidiots, and one thing that characterizes them is a fundemental lack of computer literacy. they tell me that eCommerce will be “the next big thing.” that’s very astute, if you are living in 1988.

     it takes NO time to get a website off the ground. no money either. perhaps the “european business model” is what’s so effed up about it. retard.

700. Comment by beavis | April 11th, 2009

     Ryan,

     Quit calling my future badger farm partner a retard.

     Gene,

     I’ve got another great idea; a sideways auction. The more you bid the more the price doesn’t change! Think how many tokens we can sell!

701. Comment by me | April 11th, 2009

     hmmm…while you guys were delving into this whirlpool of misinformation… I’ve jumped to almost 100 business associates on a couple of months, and can’t wait till next month.

     I am very glad I went to Scottsdale…I have never seen something that has so much value to the end line consumer… they will love it. Why pay more? Most will agree, less is where it is at. You can pay whatever you want for the things you need to buy… you have that right. I will have hundreds of thousands of customers that I get paid on who simply love it…it is imminent.

     Psst… the average family who shops the GroobLi portal will not only save a lot of money… they will have Cold hard cash transferred to a debit card… 30, 50, 100 bucks a month.

     Do your normal every day shopping..
     Go to ATM…
     get cash…

     do it again…

     No brainer in my book.
     1) Look at the facts (not the stuff on this site).
     2) Jump in..
     3) Reap the rewards!

702. Comment by beavis | April 11th, 2009

     My badger farm is a better.

703. Comment by beavis | April 11th, 2009

     Oh, I had a typo. I meant to say “my badger farm is a better investment”.

     Big badgers mean big profits and with my special Big Badger Growth Hormone (to be released next month) profits will soar!

704. Comment by beavis | April 11th, 2009

     here is the future:

     http://www.wlra.us/wl/wlbadger.jpg

705. Comment by me | April 11th, 2009

     “l.”
     They told everyone to ignore the occasional strange messages that are generated as they switch servers to the US and continue the “Beta Testing Stage”.

     Turn on “recieve company updates” in your profile

     regards…

706. Comment by Gene | April 11th, 2009

     Oh hit me boys hit me I can take it. Oh Gene this Gene that you just love my name don’t you? Badger this and badger that lolololol What a stupid site. Hold us hostage now will ya HaHa

707. Comment by Charlie | April 11th, 2009

     How do I get in on the Badger Farm?

708. Comment by Gene | April 11th, 2009

     Hey me why not tell us a little about the convention? Let’s just pirate this blog.

709. Comment by Gene | April 11th, 2009

     That badger guy must live in Wisconsin.

710. Comment by beavis | April 11th, 2009

     Charlie,

     This is a home based business. First you have to buy a couple of badgers – male and female (works best). When they get in the mood (I recommend soft lighting and a little Isaac Hayes) you put a little of my Big Badger Growth Hormone in the wine and let nature take its course. Please let me know when you have your badgers and you think they’re ready (hand holding and riding a bicycle made for two in the rain is a good sign).

     Gene,

     Do you really believe in Droobli after the non-launch on the 4th or are you screwing with us? I’m mean, come on, you can’t be that gullible.

     “me”:

     Almost 100 recruits? Wow. A few more and you’ll reach “Racketeer” level.

711. Comment by Gene | April 11th, 2009

     Yes beav I do. What about you? What do you do and what’s wrong with MLM are you still in the 90’s? Oh just keep on holding us hostage. Ha Ha Ha

712. Comment by Charlie | April 11th, 2009

     Where did you get your Badgers? I’m checking out a couple of places on the internet, the sites I’m checking recommend The Jackson Five for the nature part. This things going to be HUGE!

713. Comment by beavis | April 11th, 2009

     Gene,

     I own an SMB IT support company with a focus on VOIP and Open Source solutions. Prior to that I was a franchisee of one of the major real estate concerns and I owned a multi-location residential mortgage operation. I was the broker of record for the real estate company and qualified employee of the mortgage operation’s main branch. At the same time I was a multi-million dollar producer in real estate (top 5% in production in the US). I was able to do all three by leveraging my skills in IT. Prior to that I was a stock broker with E.F. Hutton (before it was absorbed by Lehman Bros) with a focus on both real estate and equipment limited partnerships. My licenses included Series 63 and Series 7 securities licenses. What do you do?

714. Comment by Gene | April 11th, 2009

     Well I am a carpenter I build houses. I’ve worked for a living all my life. How do you like that?

715. Comment by beavis | April 11th, 2009

     My father was a gunite contractor. A very smart man but he got scammed out his life savings in a restaurant and bar operation. I suggest you don’t do what my father did as he didn’t stick to what he knew. Carpenters can make a good living if they don’t get foolish with their money.

     Now, as far as Droobli is concerned, you’ve bit into a company that does things that raise big red flags to someone like me with a financial background. I’ve seen scams that were packaged a lot slicker than Droobli (like some of Prudential’s limited partnerships in the late 80’s and early 90’s); in fact, to me , Droobli does a very poor job of hiding it’s dirty laundry. Their association with Offshore Investment Brokers is all telling. Droobli’s bragging about this relationship is amateurish as that information would send any knowledgeable investor running away. Do you realize the implications of this relationship or are you choosing to ignore the ramifications? Do you not realize that the primary reason for setting up a “holding company” in Cyprus when a company doesn’t have a business operation there is to prevent courts or tax authorities from seizing its funds? This is the behavior of criminals, not legitimate businessmen. I think you should find better company.

716. Comment by beavis | April 11th, 2009

     Charlie,

     Badgers out; old news. I’m setting up a theme park in Salt Lake City strategically placed near the Mormon Temple. We’re naming it WickenWorld. It will have the world’s largest pentagram shaped roller coaster called the Skank. If you become a partner you can be one of the first to ride the Skank!

717. Comment by Charlie | April 12th, 2009

     I like what I’m hearing, I want to be the first one on the Skank!

718. Comment by Gene | April 12th, 2009

     OK, look whose talking and giving advice. We all know what your kind has done to the economy. You grind down the poor
     with every fraudulent act leaving good people without their homes, retirement or kids college education holding other peoples money. Please keep your badger business to yourself maybe it should be more like a skunk biz. Being the company holds it’s money in a more prudent environment is another good reason to join the company given the way bail out money comes to the likes of you. You tell me how that’s going to help the masses. You can’t. With this company anyone has a chance to make a good living with an honest online store. Now how great is that? Let’s open this up for Q&A.

719. Comment by beavis | April 12th, 2009

     Charlie,

     We’re back to badgers. The problem with the amusement park is, as even you requested, everyone wants to be the first one on the Skank but no one wants sloppy seconds. But its OK, my badger plans are in full swing. You see this isn’t really about raising big badgers; this is about creating a Giant Badger Army to enslave the world! Here is a little taste of what our Giant Badger Army has been up to

     http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22056684-5001028,00.html

     Gene,
     Great idea! We’ll get the US Government to fund the badger farm with bailout money. Thanks Gene. You just gave me the final key to enslaving the world. Hope you like your new badger masters. . . if they don’t eat you bwahahahahahahaha bwahahahahahaha

720. Comment by Gene | April 12th, 2009

     You mean skunks. LOL Sounds a little stinking. Well what’s new?

721. Comment by beavis | April 12th, 2009

     Those are stink badgers. We only use honey badgers (genetically modified Super Honey Badgers, that is). Know your badgers Gene.

722. Comment by Gene | April 13th, 2009

     Beav really, your whole thrust is you don’t want the company to succeed.Is that the gist of it? And it’s not for any wrongful practices of the company either is it? No that can’t be. You really don’t care one way or the other you just
     want to hurt the company so you can capitalize on it. Right?
     Somehow somewhere you’ve been had and it hurts. Have you actually been scammed? Are you on a mission. Now am I getting warm? Yes maybe you’re hired by the Nigerian crooks yourself and you are holding the company hostage here until they pay you up so you’ll stop. Yeah I get it. Some secret covert operation and, and oh you even could be that infamous
     Eaglescout. You sure do spend a lot of time spinning on here. But you could say the same for me.
     If that’s the case then I guess I’m doing the company a service here cause you’re not getting anywhere in one respect but then somewhere in another. But hey I should get a cut from the blog too. Oh well just spinning with the worst of them. I did look at your barbie.com site. Very good info about those Nigerian scammers and it makes you look like the lone ranger but I really don’t think that’s the case.
     Yeah your stuck in the ruts on top of a sand dune where everyone Can see you. Do they have dunes in
     Nigeria? Not getting anywhere are you beav? Yeah shouldn’t I get something for this? I don’t think I’ll be joining any of your forums soon. How is it working for you anyway?
     You have a bunch of these sites when one comes down you hurry and put another up or is it you just stop beating up the current company you‘ve been sautéing on your
     griddle when they pay up. Is this the SMB IT support company you’re talking about? And the vicious circle goes round and round, on and on. Hey I wonder if maybe I could freelance out to get these phantom IEDs out for them. I don’t know there’s a lot of shrapnel flying everywhere. And ya gotta watch out for those giant badgers or overgrown Skunks too. Until next time don’t be scammed.

723. Comment by beavis | April 14th, 2009

     What? I was only talking about taking over the world with an army of genetically modified Super Honey Badgers. What you are talking about is crazy, Gene.

724. Comment by Gene | April 14th, 2009

     Crazy like a fox. Oh a badger.

725. Comment by Lindy | April 16th, 2009

     What is this? Foreplay? You guys are adorable, but can we get back to the topic please? I believe this site is here to bash Droobli, correct? I can’t believe that some crazy internet folks have the nerve to get on line and offer people the opportunity to buy stuff at such a huge discount… and it’s not even used! What kind of craziness is this? I’ll admit that I am a little confused with all of this economic reform going on, but I thought that inflating prices was how people scammed others out of their money and now you’re trying to tell me that Droobli is scamming me by saving me money? Dammit! The consumer just can’t win! Thank heavens that there’s a site like this to set me straight. Eaglescout, Beavis – your my hereo(s)!

726. Comment by Gene | April 16th, 2009

     LOL you got set straight Lindy.

727. Comment by eaglescout | April 17th, 2009

     Hi Lindy,

     There are a lot of ways to scam you out of your money; but I’m sure you knew that. What is your favorite way to sell the GroobLi scam? Do you mention the gambling right away, or do you avoid that topic unless it is brought up?

     Do you tell people that the government is inflating prices, and therefore GroobLi is legitimate? Because that is an obvious non-sequitur. Just because 50% of people have below average intelligence doesn’t mean that it’s OK for you to exploit their bank accounts.

     GroobLi saves you money? Not any more than the lottery or gambling. Thank you for your misleading input, Lindy.

728. Comment by Unbiased | April 17th, 2009

     I am a finance professional (20+ years of corporate analysis, VC and Hedge Fund management) and was asked by a dear friend to take at look at GroobLi. My two cents: WAY too early to tell how successful it will be in the US. The European numbers do not look good. Very little verifiable data. However, I can say, I’ve reviewed several comp plans for MLM’s (a difficult business for most), and this is by far the strongest value proposition for time spent by a rep I’ve seen. It doesn’t appear that you need to recruit anyone to make money IF the the credit scenerio play out. That’s a big IF, but for those in early it may be worth their time. To me, it doesn’t appear to be a scam at all (the company – not the sales organizations’) revenue is tied directly to traffic), but it’s a questionable hook/concept. I think it will need to be tweaked to succeed. Point blank: How will you drive traffic to the website?
     The Express Auction seems to have the most potential.

     1. GroobLi reps should stop pronouncing how BIG this is going to be in the US. Instead focus on the value it MAY bring to customers of the webiste.

     2. Eaglescout and others are entitled to their opinion as well, but why do you continue to bash the company? So their number aren’t huge in Europe…it appears to me they are still trying to create a workable business model (many successful internet companies have struggled to find this).

     I say if you’re so inclined, have fun with GroobLi. Just don’t expect in to actually be the next eBay. Honestly, based on the comp plan, it doesn’t need to be 100th that size and you will do just fine IF successful…and people will likely take you more seriously.

729. Comment by eaglescout | April 17th, 2009

     1. Probably.

     2. I feel inclined to satirize the company every time someone claims that GroobLi will launch for the first time. This is because they claimed they’ve launched for the first time in Denmark (2005), in Europe (2006), in the United States (Oct 4 2008), and once again in the United States (April 4 2009).

     Then they deny the last launch, they lie about all the details and questionable associations, etc., and they make outrageous promises.

     So, “Unbiased”, it’s not really that I’m bashing GroobLi, but rather that I am responding to the outrageous claims made here.

730. Comment by Gene | April 17th, 2009

     Come on eagle, how do you know any claims to be outrageous?
     Do you have a crystal ball or something? What are you judge and jury.

731. Comment by eaglescout | April 17th, 2009

     No crystal ball. Just research, grade school math, and statistics.

732. Comment by Lazbit | April 18th, 2009

     I’ve worked in IT since ‘93. I remember playing with the Mosaic browser when the Web was just getting started. I have never seen a startup promise to launch 4 times, fail, then somehow become successful ‘in another 18 months’. Never happened to eBay or Yahoo or Google or Amazon. You tried your concept. It failed. It continues to fail with every ‘launch’.

     The only thing Droobli is successful at is conning naive people out of their money.

     Look at the auction traffic. Do the math. No amount of webinars, conventions, and propaganda replaces a compelling product offering and business model. The reverse auctions were supposed to be the key to pulling in traffic. And for literally years now, in multiple countries, it’s gone nowhere. There is no substance here, just persuasion and a pyramid waiting to collapse, with a few vultures trying to squeeze the last bit of money they can out of a few remaining suckers.

733. Comment by Gene | April 18th, 2009

     So your in grade school eagle?

734. Comment by Gene | April 18th, 2009

     Oh lasbit lasbit you have no clue on what’s going on.

735. Comment by Gene | April 18th, 2009

     You guys with this hostage site or parasite and I don’t mean navy seals or marines no not paramilitary or anything like that trying to con the company with your doggy dodo. Now who really has the con here? No secret in what you’re doing.

736. Comment by Lazbit | April 19th, 2009

     Yes, that’s it Gene; all of us are making a fortune off revealing what a sad little scam Droobli is. Those kinds of comments (which you’ve often repeated) show exactly how naive you really are about e-commerce. Then again, I guess that shouldn’t be surprising from someone who thought Droobli would be a success.

     Eagle is probably making about enough cash from Google Adsense traffic related to Droobli to pay for a six pack. Subtrack hosting fees, and I doubt that six pack is Sam Adams… probably more like Milwaukee’s Best.

737. Comment by Gene | April 19th, 2009

     Lasbit if you’re thinking we’re talking about his adsense pennies then you are very naive.

738. Comment by Gene | April 19th, 2009

     Oh and when did you reveal a scam? LOL

739. Comment by undercoverbeavis | April 20th, 2009

     Gene,
     When is the next Droobli launch? I hear its going to be huge!!! I hope it is as big and successful as the last three launches. Go Droobli!!!

740. Comment by Lazbit | April 20th, 2009

     Oh, this is rich. Please, Gene, please explain how a small blog site with some Google Ads is raking in major money from revealing the sad scam that is Droobli? I can’t wait to hear this… Don’t tell me… he’s actually a covert operative for eBay, right? Bastard! LOL

     As far as revealing scams, I’d give Eagle and a few others the credit. By ‘we’ I simply referred to the skeptics like myself that have been participating in this conversation. The only credit I take is keeping a friend from losing money at the bottom of your pyramid. That’s how I found out about this racket to begin with.

741. Comment by Gene | April 20th, 2009

     Hey no name calling now there lasbit. I can’t
     help it you can’t think for yourself.

742. Comment by Lazbit | April 21st, 2009

     And there it is. A classic MLM shill move. Avoid answering questions and feign being insulted to try and put the other person on the defensive. Whatever, Gene.

     Oh, and congrats on 8 completed Xpress auctions yesterday. The ‘launch’ continues to be a dizzying success. Positively viral.

743. Comment by Gene | April 21st, 2009

     Keep watching while you have insults on your tongue. You may get dizzy. You guys are watching a business grow don’t ya know. Real scam LOL

744. Comment by beavis | April 22nd, 2009

     “Keep watching”?
     Watching Droobli’s “business grow” is like watching paint dry. I guess it could muddle along for years like this as the promoters (and ultimate benefactors) have negligible overhead. At what point do you call it a day, Gene? The company has been around since ‘03 and only on occasion breaks ten successful auctions per day. e-commerce is not the wave of future; it is an established, mature industry and Droobli can’t seem to even get a small foothold into it. To their competition they are not even on the radar. The concept cannot grow virally on its own even on a small scale as evidenced by the auction traffic. What is supposed to change this, Gene? The shopping portal that relies on the auction traffic to drive it? A magical viral campaign that never materializes? The problem, Gene, is that the business model for Droobli corporate works without any of this; they only need new associates as their overhead is minimal. To Droobli, they have already have a successful operation; you will just be left waiting until eventually the dim bulb begins to flicker.

745. Comment by Questions | April 22nd, 2009

     Just curious…why such harsh reproach for Droobli by Beavis? I mean, if some people want to take a shot at Droobli, why belittle and downgrade them so harshly? No one barks at people for investing in real estate, yet thousands and thousands of dollars has been lost in it. No one is barking at those investing in stocks, yet thousands…correct that – millions…has been lost in stocks in the past year. So why be so hard on those who want to invest 1,000-3,000 dollars in a business venture? I am not in Droobli, because too much just doesn’t add up for me. But, I also realize we live in America, and it is free enterprise. So why so harsh Beavis?

746. Comment by Gene | April 22nd, 2009

     Beav I see you’re still panhandling with your 419 eater site. How’s it going? But keep watching the company. I have patience. By the way you can get started with the company as an associate for under 600 USD. Do you have it? Hey just go to my site here and you can join and see my picture to boot. You’ll have to click on my name though. Yes you can get credits to sell to your customers and generate a great business.
     Lasbit what’s a shil move? What makes you think I’m disposed to answer any of your questions? Are you owner of this blog? Ask eagle he knows what I’m talking about. Oh if anyone wants to donate to my cause I have a paypal account too.
     Questions what doesn’t add up? Wait tell you see the shop and all the goodies there!

747. Comment by eaglescout | April 22nd, 2009

     No one barks at people for investing in real estate, yet thousands and thousands of dollars has been lost in it. No one is barking at those investing in stocks, yet thousands…correct that – millions…has been lost in stocks in the past year.

     A lot of people are “barking” at the idiots buying into the real estate market in the past 6 years. Ironically, the people who introduced me to GroobLi are real estate agents, and they move from MLM to MLM looking to make money quickly. I decided to warn their prospective customers. That was what first prompted me to research GroobLi. You may notice a couple other scams I’ve written about; all of these articles on scams and deceptive practices were inspired by them.

     I actually feel sorry for Gene, so I try to avoid interacting with him; but I can see why beavis might be deeply irritated by Gene and anybody hawking GroobLi so ignorantly.

     On the other hand, Gene has had GroobLi politely explained to him, so at this point, I think he just wants attention, or thinks that his generally non-sequitur posts will drive traffic to his GroobLi affiliate site.

748. Comment by beavis | April 22nd, 2009

     Questions,

     Pyramid scams are illegal. Adding a lame product (like an auctions that does little business) to disguise a pyramid scam just ads to the deceit. If someone chooses to participate in a stupid business model thats one thing; when that business model is built on the recruitment of others and is a pyramid scam I don’t feel obliged to be polite.

     Regarding Gene, yeah, he’s had it explained. . . over and over. I think he gets it enough that he won’t sink another dime into it; at last until he sees something of substance happen (highly doubtful). He’s just not ready to come over from the Dark Side of the Force. When the mediocre shopping portal launches he’ll get all excited but when traffic fails to appear he’ll start to get the drift.

749. Comment by Marcus Welby | April 23rd, 2009

     I can easily tell who the BROKE people are on this site. It never amazes me. If you are BROKE you really do have a choice. Open your eyes, get your head out of the sand, quit looking for excuses, quit laying blame, quit whinning, look for the positive, and more importantly GET TO WORK and stop listening to the other BROKE Nay Sayers. Take a guess at this. Is the person who wrote this comment BROKE, RICH, or VERY RICH?

750. Comment by Insidious | April 23rd, 2009

     OK Marcus, what are you selling? And if* you can read minds, you are probably very rich.

     * No, you can’t.

751. Comment by Gene | April 23rd, 2009

     Oh yeah you guys are top not researchers LOL. Give me a break.
     Keep watching. Well’ll see who the idiots are. Eagle are you making any money yet? Ah don’t bother to respond to me. This blog is simply a scam in itself.

752. Comment by Charlie | April 23rd, 2009

     What’s up Gene? I have to say I’m a little curious why you’re still posting on this site?.. Of course it’s a scam in itself, do you notice when days go by and nobody posts all of the sudden these new names pop up and get people all up in arms, I doubt “Eaglescout” even exists or “Beavis” or “2Smart4Droobli” For me it’s only when I’m extremely bored but I doubt I’ll leave any more comments.

753. Comment by beavis | April 23rd, 2009

     I post therefore I exist.

754. Comment by undercoverbeavis | April 23rd, 2009

     Me too!

755. Comment by Charlie | April 24th, 2009

     You don’t exist to me, and I’m all that matters.

756. Comment by Gene | April 24th, 2009

     Hey Charlie. Why do I post? Mainly because I really don’t like to see them bad mouth a good company and they can hurt the efforts of those who are trying to build the business.

757. Comment by beavis | April 24th, 2009

     Are you two turkeys going to renew when your year is up? I don’t think so. I think your period of denial will end when they hit you up to purchase more of those stupid credits. When are your anniversary dates? I’ll mark my calender!

758. Comment by Lazbit | April 24th, 2009

     I post because every update to this site keeps its rankings higher in Google. And the more that happens, the more likely it is they don’t scam another poor sap. If nothing else, they can see all the false promises the Drooblidiots spouted here, just as they did with every other ‘launch’ for the last several years.

759. Comment by Charlie | April 24th, 2009

     Keep up the good work Gene! I did have one final thought, The many representatives of Droobli who have their web sites up and running gladly hand over their E-mail addresses, phone numbers and their first and last names, unlike the cowards who knock Droobli on this site, and believe me you are cowards,pathetic little closet homosexuals that never really lived up to their parents expectations, so they have to knock anyone else with ambition, I sort of hope Droobli does go in the toilet so we won’t have to see this site any longer.

760. Comment by eaglescout | April 24th, 2009

     The fact that many GroobLi representatives hand over personal information so quickly indicates that they are very new to the internet, which also explains why they fell for GroobLi so easily.

     I would be very embarrassed if my name or email address came up in any material related to advertising GroobLi or just about any get-rich-quick scheme or MLM.

761. Comment by beavis | April 24th, 2009

     Charlie,

     They hand over their personal info out of desperation, trying anything to drum up recruits. I mean, who would want to admit that they fell for such an obvious scam. They must feel like real retards dumping a few grand into such a lame operation (obviously they didn’t do any due diligence). and you don’t need my personal phone number or email; feel free to post your, ummm, “thoughts”, right here so we can all be amused.

762. Comment by CU | April 25th, 2009

     Looking at the bottom of Droobli’s “How it works” page, I noticed a statement that a member can only win 3 auctions per month and can’t make more bids after that point. No such statement exists in the U.S. GTCs. The EU GTCs seem to have taken a holiday.

     Is the restriction still in existance? Sloppy work either way. If it is, then it should be in GTCs. If not, then it shouldn’t have been copied from the EU site as it obviously was.

     …and what could possibly be the business rationale for such a policy? Have fun with that one.

763. Comment by Charlie | April 25th, 2009

     The only thing that amuses me Beav is what a pussy you are, I haven’t used that word since the seventh grade, Of course I don’t have all your “Education” like your series 63 and your series 7 licenses, I took those tests in 1991 as I recall the series 63 was a 50 question quiz multiple choice and my series 7 class was one week long evenings only how in the world did you ever manage? And you? The top 3% of Realtor (s) Please dude, Trust me I out class you in every way possible, if you had any balls you would pick up a phone and accept my invitation to Maui so you could see first hand my Imaginary lifestyle and the made up people I associate with. But you and I know what would happen if we ever came face to face, so jut stick to the computer asshole.

764. Comment by GroobLi forum | April 25th, 2009

     The people bashing GroobLi on this forum are a complete joke. I am sure that eagle scout, beavis, and the other negative personalities are the same guy. I find it hard to believe that people are listening to these guys.

     Why don’t we come out into the open and reveal out true identities. If you GroobLi bashers are so smart, let us see what you have accomplished in the business world. Prove that you are someone worth listening to. This blog? Please.

     The only thing you have to be careful of on this site is who you are listening to. Listen to the people that have the things you want in life. The GroobLi bashers on this site are probably all the same guy. He is toxic.

     GroobLi has had to work closely with the US government to be sure that the business was in compliance. This company is perfectly legitimate.

     The social business model is the way of the future. Anyone talking negative about it is obviously clueless about the future of Internet business.

     Jamison

765. Comment by beavis | April 25th, 2009

     That’s it, Charlie, you’re doing great! With you’re help in posting on this site it is number one when people Google “Droobli”. Oh, and now you’ve had a Series 7; what firm, pray tell?

     “GroobLi forum”,
     Hey dimwit! Look at the writing styles, idiot; they are from different people. Sometimes you Droobli fanboys are just too stupid for words. Hope you bought Gold ($3,199 down the drain).

766. Comment by eaglescout | April 25th, 2009

     Hope you bought Gold ($3,199 down the drain).

     That’s possibly the best insult I’ve read in this thread. I laughed out loud.

     GroobLi has had to work closely with the US government to be sure that the business was in compliance. This company is perfectly legitimate.

     Registering a business is not the same as working closely with the U.S. government, or did you mean something else. If so, do you have any documentation?

     The social business model is the way of the future. Anyone talking negative about it is obviously clueless about the future of Internet business.

     Is anybody talking negatively about “the social business model”?

     What social business model are you talking about? Are you still yapping about facebook and myspace?

767. Comment by Gene | April 25th, 2009

     Keep watching eagle. Are you making any money yet? LOL
     Hey and I am one of them Golden boys. Yup! Come on guys let me make some money off ya. Anyone reading this blog and comparing what we really have with the company and what you’re saying know how foolish you really are. Beav are you getting some paypal donations with your 419 eater? There is money to be made.
     Eagle are you taking anymore hostages? If so let me know so I can beat you up there too. LOL
     Lasbit you have no clue.

768. Comment by dublin network | April 25th, 2009

     Nice comeback beavis. Do you graduate high school this year? Way to point out the different writing styles. Now we believe you for sure…

     In working with the government they had to be sure that everything was in compliance with the law. They had to be sure they would be in compliance in each State. it took a lot of time and money. You act like you have investigated the company, yet you don’t know this? You must have top-notch investigative skills.

     Facebook and myspace?
     Yep. You are about as clueless as I thought. Wait till I knock this site off the first page of Google and you don’t get traffic anymore.

     I like how you completely ignore my comment about coming out into the open. You are a big man behind your screen name.

     If you are so knowledgeable, why don’t we have a challenge. We can see who can prove having the most success on the Internet or in business. Can you show ANY accomplishment? Why not prove to everyone you know what you are doing.

     As of right now, this site has no credibility. Anyone that listens to the negativity on this site, needs to have their head examined.

     BEWARE people! Only listen to people that have what you want in life. Be sure that the people you are listening to are credible. Make them prove it.

769. Comment by beavis | April 25th, 2009

     You’re right “droobli network”, we can anonymously kick the living daylights out of Droobli. And you are helpless along with Charlie to do anything about it. I think the term is “impotent”.

770. Comment by dublin network | April 26th, 2009

     You must be pretty insecure to get your kicks that way beavis. Talk about helpless or “impotent” as you put it. Why can’t you have a debate without making it personal and calling people names. You poor sad man.

771. Comment by Charlie | April 26th, 2009

     Say what you’ll say Beavis, but everyone knows you’re a pussy and in my neighborhood growing up that was the worst thing you could be, instead of your mother’s skirt it’s the internet you hide behind, or in your case maybe your father’s skirt, What a Fag! And I don’t mean your gay, you’re just a faggot, Phone lines are open (808)264-7114

772. Comment by Lazbit | April 26th, 2009

     I will say you Drooblidiots are consistent; the more you run out of rational arguments, the more you sound like a bunch of potty-mouthed kids throwing a tantrum. By all means, continue – it just makes this page gain more traction in Google. I’m sure potential ‘investors’ will be charmed by it.

     Oh, and congrats on 15 completed Xpress auctions Saturday. Your volume following the (2nd) launch continues to inspire awe. Insults aside, that’s the only number that counts. And the only word that continues to describe it is ‘Fail’. See more examples here: http://failblog.org/.

773. Comment by beavis | April 26th, 2009

     Flail, Charlie, flail! Keep swinging in the air, maybe you”ll hit something (or most likely wind yourself). Bahahahahahah bahahahahaha.

     Lazbit,
     Yes, they ran out of rational arguments and now some are becoming pathetically irrational like Charlie. Gene just keeps repeating Droobli “rah rah” stuff as if that will change the fundamentals. “droobli network” must really need Droobli to work so he believes. This is like picking on SPEDS.

774. Comment by CU | April 26th, 2009

     BEWARE people! Only listen to people that have what you
     want in life.

     You’ll have my children?!!

775. Comment by Gene | April 26th, 2009

     So Beav how are your donations coming Rah rah! You don’t seem to give me any information on your fabulous site. Oh but you have many of those site right?

     Are these what you support as fundamentals for the company?

     GroobLi uses a pyramid model and sells gambling tokens called “GroobLi credits”.

     How can you imagine this to be gambling? How do you make it out to be a pyramid. You can’t seem to grasp the concept of networking can you. Try this and see if you can learn something if eagle lets it through. http://www.discoveryourbusiness.com/index.php?145498/

     GroobLi doesn’t even register when you compare traffic analysis.

     You can’t really put any stock in traffic analysis yet the company is still rolling out and you can’t seem to recognize that either. Just something you can pull up to make you look like you’re talking about something of significance. It’s too early to tell.

     GroobLi gets .026% the number of visits that eBay gets; to put it another way, if you add up all the traffic they each get, eBay gets 99.97% of all that traffic.

     Of course eBay will get more traffic how long has it been around? Given time,Yes given time we’ll really have something
     that is worth talking about.

     What competition? The two organizations have completely different markets.

     Well I can agree with that. We don’t sell used stuff. It’s all new brand name high quality products. With the auctions products that everyone can afford

776. Comment by beavis | April 26th, 2009

     Gene said “the company is still rolling out”.

     The only thing rolling out is the “associates” money.

777. Comment by Gene | April 26th, 2009

     How is your rolling out donations going beav?

778. Comment by CU | April 26th, 2009

     “How can you imagine this to be gambling?”

     What is it about spending a token on a chance to win a product that you can imagine to not be gambling? You’re deluding yourself.

     “How do you make it out to be a pyramid.”

     While not as certain as the gambling aspect, the miniscule product sales compared to BA claims of revenue would seem to indicate that most of the revenue is presently coming from fees paid by other BAs. In fact, I read a recent blog by one associate who admitted as much. If so, then Droobli is currently operating as a pyramid.

     “You can’t really put any stock in traffic analysis yet the company is still rolling out…”

     If the U.S. rollout is anything like the EU rollout, then expect a brief upswing in traffic followed by a steady decline. Droobli.com traffic – which includes the EU droobli auction site – was in a steady decline prior to the U.S. launch.

779. Comment by beavis | April 26th, 2009

     Droobli is going to be hanging with some big, respectable company:

     Xerox = copy

     Google = search

     Droobli = fail

     Example: “I started a new bussines but it Drooblied and we closed our doors.”

780. Comment by Lazbit | April 26th, 2009

     ROFL. I like it, Beavis.

     “My portfolio is way down. Part of it is the economy, but I also should have known better than investing in too many startups that all Drooblied.”

781. Comment by beavis | April 26th, 2009

     Lazbit,

     1. Droobli – fail
     2. Drooblied it – blew it, failed to perform
     3. Drooblidiot – a stupid failure
     4. Drooblicide – attempted suicide and lived to tell about it
     5. Droobli sex – you and your hand tonight (sound familiar Charlie)

782. Comment by beavis | April 27th, 2009

     6. Droobli employment – collecting Welfare
     7. Droobli mission – a directive given to subordinates with no possibility of success
     8. Droobli cluster – a cluster f#@k
     9. Droobli bankruptcy – not enough change under the seat of the car for a pack of cigs
     10. Droobli tattoo – bruise from falling down; a misspelled tattoo

783. Comment by Gene | April 27th, 2009

     It’s the economy don’t you know (upswing and decline sure)and where did you come from now cu? Do you watch the news? Another invention of eagle this cu guy. Or is that beav. Are either one of you making any money yet. Or is it still rolling out? And how long have you been rolling out?
     Are ya all holding any more hostages? Why don’t ya tell us how much money you’re making? Or are you gambling on making some money from the company so you’ll take them off your hit list. What kind of products do you deal with besides holding companies hostage on the Internet. What a scam.

784. Comment by CU | April 27th, 2009

     I come from Earth. You?

785. Comment by Charlie | April 27th, 2009

     Beavis is a Fag! His father is the local Boy Lover and his Mother is the Local Slut!…

786. Comment by beavis | April 27th, 2009

     Flail, Charlie! Flail!

     For those of you who don’t know, Charlie is the homeless guy on the street corner having a heated conversation with himself. Consider him harmless. Give him 50 cents and he’ll do a Hari Krishna dance for you.

787. Comment by Charlie | April 28th, 2009

     Except Charlie’s not harmless, I’m gonna find out Beavis’s identitiy and kill him and torture his family in front of him, and then burn his house to the ground and then kill all of his friends, and then this blog will be on the news. I’m coming for you Beavis you faggot, cocksucker, pedofile!! I can’t wait to kill you and have you begging for your life.

788. Comment by dublin scam | April 28th, 2009

     There is a website called droobliscam.org that has the truth about Droobli. Get the real facts!

789. Comment by beavis | April 28th, 2009

     droobli scam,

     Old news. The real facts are Droobli hasn’t done dog squat for business and they have made a lot of statements about becoming wildly successful yet have shown no momentum. In other words, your site is bull, and Droobli is, imho, an unqualified “FAIL”. Move along,; nothing to see here.

790. Comment by eaglescout | April 28th, 2009

     Dear “droobli scam”,

     Your entire site seems to complain about a few tidbits of information* we retracted as long ago as the fourth (penultimate) time that GroobLi allegedly launched (October 4, 2008 – how many times can you launch?)

     Additionally, your defense of GroobLi amounts to “the U.S. government hasn’t wasted time with GroobLi, so GroobLi must be legitimate”

     Other than that, you agree that GroobLi makes more than 97% of its money from selling licenses to sell other licenses!

     In fact, it’s the first thing you admit to!

     The second part of your defense basically amounts to agreeing with us.

     And the third part of your defense is that we are mean to GroobLi, which logically is not a defense at all.

     No matter how “mean” we are to GroobLi, it is still in the business of deceiving people, and you did nothing to put that claim to rest. GroobLi is the business equivalent of swine flu and you admit to it!

     Cheers.

     *Some of these bits of information were only retracted because they were outdated, and not because they were inaccurate.

791. Comment by dublin scam | April 28th, 2009

     No matter how “mean” we are to GroobLi, it is still in the business of deceiving people, and you did nothing to put that claim to rest. GroobLi is the business equivalent of swine flu and you admit to it!

     The funny thing is that the detractors are acting like they know what they are talking about when they don’t. The reverse auction is just something to talk about. It is an attention grabber. It is a small part of what GroobLi is all about. If people want to have fun trying to win a product, why not. They are adults. They can make their own decision. There is nothing deceptive about that.

     The auction has been a little slow ON PURPOSE. They are having everyone hold their credits. These credits are going to begin to flood into the market all at once. This will draw mass traffic to the site and create the buzz.

     But again, this is a small part of what GroobLi is all about. The “savings portal” is what is going to really benefit consumers. This will allow people to save money on the things they already purchase from the stores they already purchase from. That is a great concept in these economic times.

     GroobLi has been working out relationships with over 750 of the top stores people shop at. It is through the customer base that all the licensees will ultimately be making their money. Not through distributorships.

     You keep bringing up the government, yet GroobLi has worked with the government to be sure that they are in compliance. In fact, GroobLi modified the compensation plan in the US in order to be sure they were well within the law.

     Everything now hinges on the savings portal. If this really does offer customers savings and incentives that are worth while, GroobLi will be a big hit and it will turn out to be a consumer driven business. That is the plan. This is one of the first models that will have accomplished that. In other words, the goal is not to make money off distributors. It is to make money from customers. If you don’t get that, you don’t understand what GroobLi is up to.

792. Comment by eaglescout | April 28th, 2009

     The funny thing is that the detractors are acting like they know what they are talking about when they don’t. The reverse auction is just something to talk about. It is an attention grabber.

     That’s what we said. It’s a deceptive attention-grabber, not a real reverse-auction…

     The auction has been a little slow ON PURPOSE. They are having everyone hold their credits. These credits are going to begin to flood into the market all at once. This will draw mass traffic to the site and create the buzz.

     That’s an interesting strategy, but a poor excuse. You mean to say that poor people like Gene have to renew their yearly licenses to sell licenses this coming October, because someone decided that they shouldn’t be allowed to sell a lot of credits? And in the meantime, Bobby Jensen and the posse are spending that money like thieves on an money-laundering spree?

     No. I think the problem is that you are “hoping” that the viral marketing will work. No matter what we say, it’s all part of your strategy… The poor amount of sales is your strategy, and people like Gene having to renew their licenses to sell more licenses is your strategy.

     That all benefits Bobby Jensen, not Gene. You are simply using Gene and emailing him excuses for the not so transparent deception.

     “But again, this is a small part of what GroobLi is all about. The “savings portal” is what is going to really benefit consumers. This will allow people to save money on the things they already purchase from the stores they already purchase from. That is a great concept in these economic times.”

     Yes, gambling and lotteries are a great way to lose money in these economic times.

     You keep bringing up the government, yet GroobLi has worked with the government to be sure that they are in compliance. In fact, GroobLi modified the compensation plan in the US in order to be sure they were well within the law.

     Making sure your company stays legal isn’t something to brag about, nor is it “working closely with the government”. That’s something you have to do if you want to avoid jail.

     The fact that you would have been illegal if you hadn’t modified your compensation plan should have been enough motivation to change it.

     GroobLi has been working out relationships with over 750 of the top stores people shop at. It is through the customer base that all the licensees will ultimately be making their money. Not through distributorships.

     Well, that’s your “promise” anyway. But in reality most of the money has already been made through distributorships. You are in the business of promising things you haven’t delivered, and probably can’t deliver.

     Everything now hinges on the savings portal. If this really does offer customers savings and incentives that are worth while, GroobLi will be a big hit and it will turn out to be a consumer driven business.

     And if not, Bobby Jensen has already made his millions in pyramid licenses. Sounds like a beautiful plan.

793. Comment by beavis | April 28th, 2009

     “The auction has been a little slow ON PURPOSE. They are having everyone hold their credits. These credits are going to begin to flood into the market all at once. This will draw mass traffic to the site and create the buzz.”

     ummm. . . bullshit. . . stupid, laughable. . . bullshit

     there are few things that are definite but the “flood” of credits will never occur.

     bullshit

794. Comment by dublin scam | April 28th, 2009

     The only thing that is laughable is beavis and butthead acting like they know what they are talking about. You guys are a complete and utter joke.

     You act like you understand business and are the authorities on scams, yet you have no success or credibility of your own. Show ANYTHING that you have been succesful with. Whenever you are challenged, you just put your head in the sand and avoid the topic.

     Show some credibility. Why should people believe you? There are plenty of successful people that believe in GroobLi. There are a couple of jokers with no credibility trying to create controversy that have no idea what they are talking about.

795. Comment by eaglescout | April 28th, 2009

     Dear “droobli scam”, “droobli forum”, “droobli network”, what you (singular) don’t seem to understand, is that the only credibility that matters is logic and our sources. I could be Bill Gates’ private researcher, or have a PhD in Janitorial Services and the logic and sources would still stand on their own.

     Show some credibility. Why should people believe you?”

     Because people can evaluate our sources and examine our math and decide for themselves. You don’t seem to understand what evidence is.

     There are plenty of successful people that believe in GroobLi.

     And yet you offer no relevant examples. Stop wasting your time.

796. Comment by Gene | April 28th, 2009

     Oh eagle are you not making any money yet? Poor boy. You’re somewhat like a leech is that right? Oh that’s right a parasite. Is that a right assessment? You have to try and play your transparent game of pin the tail on some donkey. LOL but the donkey isn’t cooperating is it? You reach out your hand and step in, well. LOL You’ve been getting kicked too many times haven’t you?
     Beav be careful you don’t step in your own creation. You guys don’t seem to be interested in any real business you have to try to ruin another’s. But you can’t do it? No one is believing you anymore. I did a pretty good job here didn’t I? Beav how are the donations coming? You don’t seem to answer that. Is it because you aren’t getting any? We wouldn’t want anyone to click on any of your links here now would we? You might make too much. It might go to your head. Not eagle’s either. Right? You’re welcome to buy at my shop and check out my real business. Just keep watching.

797. Comment by Insidious | April 28th, 2009

     In the spirit of Beavis’ collection of GroobLisms:

     “The swine flu GroobLied and killed everyone”.
     “Did you vaccinate yourself against the GroobLi flu? It virally exploded on October 4th 2008 and April 4th 2009″

798. Comment by beavis | April 29th, 2009

     Gene,

     What are you talking about? Leeches, donkeys and something about donations I gather. On second thought, please just ignore this post. We’ll figure it out on our own.

799. Comment by Wombat | April 29th, 2009

     “I drooblied all over my shorts after I ate that two pounds of bacon, a gallon of milk, and a jar of jalapenos. Time to turn them inside out and try another meal.”

800. Comment by beavis | April 29th, 2009

     Wombat,

     We’ve all been there.

801. Comment by Gene | April 29th, 2009

     Yeah you’re leeching off people asking for donations for a so called reputable cause. What a facade your 419 website farce. Scam you is. But never mind you just evade it. You and eagle or you are eagle just want to make money from the company so you stop bashing them even though there’s no foundation in your cause. I have to spell it out for you I guess.

     It’s too much trouble to take you to court for your ridiculous claims so you are in hopes the company will pay you instead so you’ll shut up and go away. Better watch it guys so you all don’t scamapedia all over yourselves.

802. Comment by beavis | April 29th, 2009

     Gene,

     You seem to be on a mission to part with your money to Droobli; please do so. You can’t be helped and I think we all accept that here. You are, dare I say it, an idiot.

803. Comment by Gene | April 29th, 2009

     Beav you are on a mission impossible. You aren’t going to stop the company and I sure hope they don’t pay you anything to shut up just because you cause a false stir in ecommerce world. How are you doing with parting others of their money with your donations scam? So I am an idiot? LOL sure enough you’ve been looking in a mirror. How can you possible think anyone can take you seriously. Maybe the Nigerians can.

804. Comment by beavis | April 29th, 2009

     Trust me, nothing involving Droobli would have any effect of significance on the ecommerce world. The best way Droobli can protect its reputation and shut me up is to deliver on their promises. As that is not occurring I think I’ll continue to comment.

805. Comment by beavis | April 29th, 2009

     Gene,

     I got this off your website:

     “We know this works because it has already been done in Germany and has been launched this past October 2008. We are working off of their success.”

     “Success”? What “success”? When confronted by the pathetic number of auctions in Germany and the US we get the bullshit response that the site hasn’t launched yet or it’s just launched and it’s too soon to tell or the to be released shopping portal is what is needed. In other words excuses. So, you can’t acknowledge that the traffic has always sucked and then claim a history of success. You Drooblidiots are liars.There is no ambiguity here. You are lying. Name one thing the company has done to drive traffic to its site in the last six months of any significance beyond tell stories of things to come. This company supposedly started in 2003 and supposedly is heavily financed. Yet, for some reason, nothing is happening. The only activity this company has demonstrated is the push to recruit more associates and collecting the up front money. Actual product delivery (that being the website with traffic) is, for all intents and purposes, a no show. Your company is a joke Gene. You have been had, fool.

806. Comment by Lazbit | April 30th, 2009

     Please. For the zillionth time:

     1) Please look up the meaning of reverse auction. Droobli can’t even get that part right. A real reverse auction involves sellers bidding down their prices for a mass of buyers. Not the lottery-like approach Droobli follows. Call Xpress what you will, but it’s _not_ a reverse auction.

     2) The ‘holding back of credits’ is just a BS excuse to sign up more suckers. What are we on now? – the sixth ‘launch’? Mind boggling. To me, it either indicates incredible business and marketing incompetence or a carefully planned approach to continue fleecing investors. The later is more believable.

     3) There is nothing new about your so called ‘new model’ for phase two. Ideas like that have been around for more than 10 years. I don’t care how many stores you’ve signed up — you have brick and mortar firms that have gone online like Sam’s Club and Costco on the membership end to compete with (good luck with that). Or, assuming you point to other merchants, you have PriceGrabber, Froogle, Nextag, etc. Your past track record certainly doesn’t give any confidence that ‘phase two’ is anything other than yet another delaying tactic to keep the pyramid growing until the last possible sap can be conned.

807. Comment by Gene | April 30th, 2009

     You know nothing beav don’t you seem to understand we have an online store coming and that is where the money or business is. Not in the auctions in the first place. How you flip things around. Talk about lying. It has been successful in Germany. How many times does someone have to point that out to you? The fact is that people simply doing the auctions mean that we have customers who will shop with us. When it comes out. Whatever the caliber of the auctions is not that big a deal and the company has a plan as how they roll out and I have no control over that. Don’t step into your scamapedia now beav. For some reason nothing is happening. Duh
     How’s the donations coming I see you’re not linking up to your 419 scam site. So how much money do you think you need to let your hostages go? You’ve been had.

808. Comment by Gene | April 30th, 2009

     Lasbit you don’t have to recruit to come into the company nor does one need to, to make money. So that blows your idea of a sap being conned. In every business venture there is risk of loss and hope of gain. What do you expect to get something for nothing? You seem to think we get nothing for something. LOL No please. I’ve used the auctions myself. I got a product shipped to me in a timely fashion. Saved a little money. Giving enjoyment to my boys as satisfied customers. I am looking forward to the shop. Soon you will see it.

809. Comment by Gene | April 30th, 2009

     Does anyone really take this blog seriously. I sure don’t. We have a real business with the company. These duply idiots with there reverse cons would fabricate anything to turn a profit. Anyone can see that. Beave do you think of yourself as a duply idiot? How about you lasbit?

810. Comment by beavis | April 30th, 2009

     Lazbit,

     I give up. Gene “believes”. I’d have a better shot at convincing Bin Laden to become an Orthodox Jew. Without any supporting facts Gene “believes” the company will create a shopping portal that will be wildly successful. Why will it be wildly successful? Who knows. Last I heard the company line was the auctions were supposed to drive the traffic. We all know that’s not happening as hardly anyone bids on them. Then their is the generic “viral marketing” shtick. Once again, “how”? What are they going to do that will create this and what has the company ever done to deserve trust? Gene makes my head hurt. Blinded by greed is one thing; being beaten stupid by it is another.

811. Comment by Gene | April 30th, 2009

     Lasbit is duplied. I guess you are a Duply ^.You have not a shred of supporting facts they won’t be a success! Do you? You have the crystal ball syndrome. Even if Germany was a flop which it wasn’t doesn’t mean it is here. Lasbit or is it beav or is it eagle. Come now and spin your tale. Greed is the a motivation you espouse is it lasbit? I suppose when I drive nails and build a house that’s greed? If anyone tries to build an online store that’s greed? So what do you do to generate greed lasbit? You better read over http://www.droobliscam.org again. You don’t have to recruit if you want in lasbit.

812. Comment by Gene | April 30th, 2009

     VISA debit card $10.000 Charity Auction

     Part of our mission statement is to support worthwhile Charities around the world. The focus is on supporting children in need. In this light we are featuring our second Charity Auction to benefit ‘Blessings in a Backpack’. This program feeds children in grades K-5 in Title 1 public schools; who qualify for the Federal Free and Reduced Meal Program and who may not have any or enough food on the weekends.

     ‘Blessings in a Backpack’ is currently feeding over 10,000 children in Kentucky, Indiana, Florida, Michigan, Missouri, California and New York in public schools. It only takes $80 to feed a child for an entire school year. The Program works like this: a school is chosen and a local grocer partners with the program to provide food for meals in the backpacks. Every Friday, students receive their backpacks with food that requires little or no preparation. They return with their backpacks on Monday ready to learn.

     The person who is awarded this charity auction, will personally receive a $10,000 Visa debit card to use as they wish. All of the revenue from the auction will be donated to ‘Blessings in a Backpack’.

     Includes

     Visa debit card worth $10000

813. Comment by beavis | April 30th, 2009

     When the company closes its doors and all of the money is in some offshore banking haven, Gene will say “it is all part of their plan and they’ll be relaunching soon bigger and better than ever”.

814. Comment by Gene | April 30th, 2009

     Gene says oh yeah. How’s your 419 donations coming beav. You’re holding out on us.

815. Comment by eaglescout | April 30th, 2009

     Gene, I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but droobliscam.org is owned by GroobLi’s subcontractors in the United States.

     GroobLi has no physical location in the United States whatsoever. The reason they picked Scottsdale, AZ on paper, is because it is the address given to them by DomainsByProxy.com

     Registrant Street1:DomainsByProxy.com
     Registrant Street2:15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domains_by_Proxy

     Additionally, droobliscam.org is building all kinds of straw man arguments. Watch how deceptive they are:

     GroobLi has no connection to Andy Bodowin or TNI, and any innuendo to that effect is false. The writer who likes to name these two in his posts about GroobLi has denied that he is implying any connection . . . but he continues to name them.

     I actually never mention “Andy Bodowin“, this is Bobby Jensen’s way of misspelling Andy Bowdoin’s name (charged with creating a Ponzi Scheme). And for some reason, Jamison spelled it exactly the same way.

     Once can be a coincidence; twice makes me wonder if they are trying to hide a real connection between Andy Bowdoin and GroobLi. That, or Jamison didn’t do any relevant research.

     Here’s another deception by Jamison:

     “GroobLi is a pyramid scheme because it sells nothing of value”. Not true, and Yahoo! and its affiliated merchants who pay GroobLi each month for its click-through shoppers agree (along with all of the registered GroobLi customers who buy credits each month and participate in the auctions).

     Not quite. GroobLi offers no click-throughs to Kelkoo or Yahoo! for the U.S. section of the site. As Jamison should be aware, our main criticism is of the U.S. site, since it is the only site currently being pushed by GroobLi. The European version is irrelevant as it gets very little traffic by comparison, and appears to be losing traffic every day.

     Thus, Jamison appears to agree that GroobLi is indeed a pyramid scheme. The reality is not clear-cut however, as GroobLi indeed has tried its best to turn a pyramid scheme into a barely legal business model, by consulting lawyers in the United States.

     But the legality is not even that important. It’s simply the deceptive lengths at which GroobLi will go to sell licenses to sell more licenses. Of course, they won’t call them licenses. Instead they are marketed as credit bundles which serve, exactly, the purpose of a license to sell other licenses.

816. Comment by beavis | April 30th, 2009

     That’s too much for Gene to take in. His head might explode.

817. Comment by Gene | April 30th, 2009

     Eagle don’t waste our time. I’ll take over here now.

818. Comment by undercoverbeavis | April 30th, 2009

     Gee, gene, I know Droobli’s viral marketing campaign is going to be a huge success. Tell us how they are going to do it and put these naysayers in their place.

819. Comment by Gene | April 30th, 2009

     Beav if you have a complaint go to your congressman. Oh yeah you don’t live here. Why don’t you mind your own business then?
     Getting any free hand outs are ya beav?

820. Comment by Gene | April 30th, 2009

     A cease and desist letter, hmmm have ya had any of late eagle?

821. Comment by CU | April 30th, 2009

     “The reality is not clear-cut however, as GroobLi indeed has tried its best to turn a pyramid scheme into a barely legal business model, by consulting lawyers in the United States.”

     Of course, consulting a lawyer is not a guarantee of legality any more than seeing a doctor is a guarantee of good health.

822. Comment by Gene | May 1st, 2009

     Discover the Company
     Auctions Partner Program
     With its brand-new Auctions Partner program, the company provides you with a solid basis for a professional web presence. Take advantage of our year-long experience, innovative business ideas and a medium with steadily growing popularity – the internet.

     From now on, you’ll be able to invite customers into your own auction house. The new Auctions Partner program is a ready-made web solution that can be set up in a few easy steps.

823. Comment by undercoverbeavis | May 1st, 2009

     I can’t wait Gene; when can I sign up!!! After $3,195 for a Gold Package and now $1,595 for a Premium Package I’d only be out $4,790. I’ll make that in a day when Droobli takes off!! They will take off, won’t they Gene? I mean, could you explain how this viral marketing campaign is going to be promoted – in specifics? I mean, I’d just like some details and how this is to come about. You do have the details, don’t you?

824. Comment by Gene | May 1st, 2009

     Update: April 28th, 2009; Apologist sites (subcontracted by GroobLi) claim GroobLi sells advertising to Kelkoo and therefore it is not a pyramid scheme; The U.S. GroobLi site, offers no such advertising and the European counterpart receives a fraction of that traffic by comparison.

     Update: January 20th, 2009; We have opted to remove outdated speculations and focus on reasonably verifiable information regarding GroobLi. Think of this as the Wikipedia article on GroobLi you can’t edit.

825. Comment by Gene | May 1st, 2009

     Hey beav you don’t give me any details about your donations earning. Tit for tat.

826. Comment by beavis | May 1st, 2009

     I really hate to burst your bubble, Gene, but I don’t have any financial interest in the anti-scammer site or position of control. I also have no knowledge of how their donations go. So to answer you question, my donation earnings are zero. Now about this viral marketing campaign; please tell me you know the specifics because only a moron would dump money blindly into a business without knowing how it intends to operate.

827. Comment by Gene | May 1st, 2009

     So you’re talking of morons? Well fancy that. Sooo how does that apply to your business? So why do you link to the 419 site. Are you seriously into the company and on a need to know on the marketing. Any honest inquiry should be addressed. The best thing for you to do is attend a webinar. Give me your email address and I will send you info for a webinar.

828. Comment by beavis | May 1st, 2009

     Gene is getting up to speed with Droobli; you can’t get a straight answer out of him. Kind of like trying to nail Jello against the wall; it just oozes away. Well, I link to the 419 site because I participate in it’s activities (anti-scamming). I consider Droobli a scam so I think it is a good fit here. It is a hobby (nothing like giving a Nigerian scammer a wake up call at 5:00am on Sunday morning; or sending him cross-country to pick up a bank transfer; or convincing him to tattoo himself to join our “church” and receive funds for doing so).

     AS far as my interest in Droobli, I just think it is a scam that needs to be exposed. So, “yes”, I’m “on a need to know on the marketing”. I’ve seen Droobli’s webinars; goes back to the Jello on the wall. I’m only asking what is Droobli’s plan to accomplish its goals. I figured anybody who bought into this would surely know the answer to such a basic question. Any other Droobli Ass-ociates care to answer this basic question?

829. Comment by Lazbit | May 1st, 2009

     Honestly, Gene, you (conveniently, I think) have the attention span of a gnat. I’m looking at the title of this page, and it isn’t an exploration of the pros/cons of Beave’s choice of extracurricular activities (although I admire anyone who helps fights 419 scams), it’s about Droobli. The beauty of the Internet is that people can debate ideas without necessarily knowing whether the other person is young/old/black/white/rich/poor — which has no bearing on the merits of an arguement. I don’t care if you’re a carpenter or a CEO. Or Beavis or Eagle for that matter. Stay on subject.

     And telling people to attend a webinar isn’t an answer. It’s more spam. I’ve listened to Droobli’s webinars. In fact, a friend asking me to listen to one and provide her with advice on whether or not to invest in Droobli was what sparked my interesting in helping warn people away from Droobli. She’s in a tough financial situation, and Droobli was the last thing she needed to be wasting her time and income with.

     So please, either answer or say, “I don’t know.”

     Here’s a couple of the unanswered questions:
     - How will you get traffic or go ‘viral’ if the auction site continues to be a dog? (Congrats on 11 Xpress auctions yesterday. Almost a month after the ‘unlaunch’, and the traffic continues to be… well… sad.)
     - Tell us the specifics of that ’success’ in Germany. Anything. Ballpark numbers. A simple Google of ‘Droobli Germany’ just shows a scam forum with fleeced merchants and unhappy customers…

830. Comment by Gene | May 1st, 2009

     Lasbit will thank you very much. You are so kind in your assessment. I am not here to answer your questions. You have your mind made up. Why should I waste my time with you?

831. Comment by Gene | May 1st, 2009

     Beav you’re scamming right here. We all know it. Have you been to a webinar yet beav?

832. Comment by beavis | May 1st, 2009

     No, but I’ve been to Droobli’s website for Ass-ociates. That was a waste of time. No financials and no clear roadmap for the company; just a lot of hype about how all of you fools are going to be rich and statistics that they pull out of their asses. Gene, give it up; the reason you won’t answer the question about how the company is going to orchestrate a viral campaign is because you don’t know. You have no clue how this company is ever going to make you rich; you just like the way they tell you it is going to happen. Plus, if you were to admit what you don’t know you’d have to take the next step and examine what you do know – and that ain’t pretty. You know the company has been around for about six years, it’s track record in Europe is poor (not the success they allude to), it has had an official “launch” in October of 2008 with little change in traffic, it had another “launch” in April 2009 with little change in traffic and there is no apparent activity taking place to change this pace. You are basing your belief in this company on blind trust. Its time you looked at the facts surrounding you and pulled yourself out of denial. Droobli = FAIL

833. Comment by beavis | May 1st, 2009

     Here, eat some Droobli bullshit Gene:

     “/24-7PressRelease/ – NAPLES, FL, July 12, 2008 – Discount Marketing Corp and Alfred Luckerbauer, the US representatives for GroobLi Network, announced today that GroobLi, boasts a spectacular launch in the EU, with record numbers of hits on their online auction platform.”

     “think of Wal-Mart and how they have monopolized the shopping market for people because of there lowest prices. Well, the only difference between GroobLi and Wal-Mart is GroobLi will monopolize the Internet, while Wal-Mart will not.”

     “After GroobLi’s launch on October 4th in the United States, GroobLi has begun to sweep North America and the way people shop online.”

834. Comment by Gene | May 1st, 2009

     Beav why do you doubt it’s success? Please keep your toiletries to yourself. Now if you really pursued a course of a normal being you would be able to get the information you need from the webinars. That’s what they’re for. So you don’t have to do any selling yourself. It’s all spelled out for you. You might find that the auctions were not intended to be a sole entity. Just a bit of tantalizing enjoyment in shopping which only leads to the online store which should be here real soon and if not then I will be concerned. So stop harping on the auctions. MY MY But as of now I will be patient. It’s all in the plan. You know when it comes to a luanch you better go to a webinar to find out what is being spoken of and what phases are launched. That’d be a real good idea. But you’re from another country so maybe there is a problem in translation.

835. Comment by beavis | May 1st, 2009

     Never mind, Gene, I found my own answer. The stupid ass shopping portal is nothing more than a private branded shopping mall owned and administered by MediocreNet Group; not something unique that Droobli developed with its supposed expenditure of 80 millllllllion dooooollars for IT. Droobli will be one of approximately 60 clients (how unique). So, where is Droobli going to get it’s clientèle if not from it’s own Ass-ociates? From its auction house, which, in case you haven’t noticed, is sucking wind. Think of a sheep. Think of sheep standing out in the cold. Think of that sheep completely sheared and shivering. That’s you Gene. Droobli = FAIL

836. Comment by Lazbit | May 1st, 2009

     Nice find, Beavis! Oh, Gene, your future is not looking so great my friend. You’re partnering with a firm that’s trading at 10 cents a share with a 27 cent 52-week high/low. The bid price is .04 and the ask price is .18. That’s almost as bad as paying 80 cents for the privilege of lowering the price on an item by 25 cents with a very high probability you won’t win it anyway. Then again, we know that doesn’t bother you, so I’m sure you’ll be thrilled by the new partner. Good luck with that…

     But hey, you and the 5 or 10 other people bidding on Xpress items will probably do great with this killer new firm and their 58 other partners.

     Go listen to another webinar. I’m sure it will give you comfort.

     This is why I keep coming back. It’s like watching a car wreck on the highway. You keep wanting to look away, but it’s hard to help yourself… Just when you think it can’t get more goofy, some new gem like this comes up…

837. Comment by beavis | May 1st, 2009

     MediocreNet didn’t even get the Droobli “bump” on its stock price LOL
     Oh, this is so sad, but I just can’t stop laughing. “The next eBay” LOL

838. Comment by Ben Dover | May 2nd, 2009

     With a little help from my friends, I checked out some stuff, has anyone actually laid eyes on those buildings that are on the Droobli opportunity video on You Tube, it’s looks sort of photo shopped. if anyone has an actual photo of any one of these Droobli buildings please post an E-mail that i could see them. i can’t find any proof they exist.

839. Comment by beavis | May 2nd, 2009

     The Berlin office is a real building. For all we know they are just renting a PO box there. The picture shown next to the US address is not Droobli’s. Their address matches up with a rather mediocre commercial/industrial location that includes loading docs; at least , that is what Google Earth comes up with. I would estimate the average office size as being 800-1200 square ft. You would not mistake it for eBay’s headquarters

     If Droobli has 80 million invested I would say they are counting cocaine and hookers (traveling overseas on investor money can get lonely).

840. Comment by Ben Dover | May 2nd, 2009

     i signed up with droobli last year, a friend called me and told me i had to “act now or i would lose out” $800 later i haven’t heard from him since, i don’t see how anybody could be making any money off this thing. i even bought some items but there was little selection and everytime i clicked it costs me 80 cents, so the ipod nano i purchased costed me about $300.00, and now these guys are sending me E-mails constantly trying to get me to “upgrade” and build a web site for a mere $350.00. their even sending me E-mails about special mother’s day shopping, gimme a break, i haven’t seen one single change since i signed up in september ‘08

841. Comment by Gene | May 2nd, 2009

     Hey Bendover LOL. Hey why not list your website? As if you really have one. Show us. What a joke.
     Hey beav check out the new site. Stock sure.

842. Comment by Ben Dover | May 2nd, 2009

     i was simply telling you my experience thus far with Droobli, i don’t have a web site, nor am i as smart as you gene, i’m sure you’ll be a millionaire any day now.

843. Comment by beavis | May 2nd, 2009

     Ben Dover,

     Gene knows he screwed the pooch when he invested good money into this joke of company. He is just holding on because what choice does he have? They have his money. I’m not an accountant but you might want to consult one about writing off your investment as a loss on your tax return.

     Here is a link so you can shop the mall – without having anything to do with Droobli

     http://bsprewards.com/fortune/index.cfm

     There you go Drooblidiots, your shopping mall, minus your commissions. No exclusivity and not unique in the slightest.

     Droobli=FAIL

844. Comment by Gene | May 3rd, 2009

     Well bendover anyone that is an associate gets two websites. If you are a real associate you’d know that.
     Beav you’re getting boring. But yes one can write off your package purchase. We did last year. There ya go. JOIN TODAY!

845. Comment by Gene | May 3rd, 2009

     http://bsprewards.com/droobli/index.cfm

846. Comment by beavis | May 3rd, 2009

     Gene,

     WAKE UP! It’s over, dude! The shopping mall is nothing unique. They led you on. Don’t you get it? The auctions suck and a rebranded auction site ain’t nothin’. Droobli is a farce, waste of time, waste of money. There is no viable business model with the proven failure of the auction sites and without something to sell other than Droobli credits. Get out of denial. The shopping mall was your last hope and turned out to be nothing special; in fact, it rather common with approx. 60 other identical versions. You told us to wait for the mall; we did and here it is. And what “viral” marketing campaign? What is there to capture the medias attention about this mall or the failing auction site?

     DroobliFAIL
     Droobli=FAILED

847. Comment by Gene | May 3rd, 2009

     Well yes I am surprised. But let’s go back to what I say on my site. But first. We have a mall big guy. You can buy real products there. So much for your failed ideas.
     At any rate you need customers. You can have a mall and not have customers and you won’t make any money. Who cares about 60 other sites. How are they getting their customers. I have customers. Why? Because I have drawn them with my auction site. Which is if you listen to my audio on my site is the uniqueness of our online store which is that we have a built in advertising component. Listen again beav. I will continue to build my customer base. It may take months or years but there is potential there. So how would you do it if you were trying to build a customer base? NO denial from me beav. Like Joe Friday said, Just the FACTS ma’am. http://www.buyit4zero.com

848. Comment by beavis | May 3rd, 2009

     The other sites have a customer base and this mall is nothing but a perk with a revenue stream that is secondary to these businesses. Droobli auction statistics show that Droobli has next to no customer base and is not showing any sign of volume growth. When the auctions failed to show volume all the Drooblidiots said that it wasn’t important and the new soon-to-be-released shopping mall was the real game changer and future revenue stream generator. Well, its here and while it appears to me to be a decent product for a company with a membership base (employees, credit card holders, etc.) it is no way going to build Droobli into the “next eBay”. Those statements are so laughable now that it defies comprehension that anyone with the facts you now possess would continue to invest time and effort into this farce, much less defend the company. Gene, call your upline and put them on the spot. This is bull; you were mislead and they took your money in a confidence game. Its time to quit allowing them to schmooze you and get mad.

849. Comment by beavis | May 3rd, 2009

     Here is the standard agreement for these shopping malls (see how Droobli benefits from the Drooblidiots):

     COMPENSATION:

     BSP REWARDS PROGRAM: MediocreNet shall, upon collection, remit to Member
     Provider _1_% of the net Rewards earned by Members through and provided directly
     by it, and _1_% of the net Member Rewards received and collected that is earned
     through Merchants, Companies, Organizations, Groups and individuals that have
     been contracted through Member Provider.

     BRAND-A-PORT OR BSP PORTAL SALES: MediocreNet shall remit to Member Provider
     20% of the price of each Portal sold directly by it.

     BSP MONTHLY HOSTING FEES: In addition, MediocreNet shall remit to Member
     Provider an amount equal to 10% of the hosting fees paid by Buyers who purchase
     portals or host websites with MediocreNet as a direct result of the activities of
     Member Provider, whether those activities are sold through the portal or
     independent of it.

850. Comment by Gene | May 3rd, 2009

     It’s just getting started dude. So are you saying we’ll have to make it with our online shop/store/mall without the aid of the auctions? Is that your business expertise?
     I was interested in an online store and it doesn’t look bad to me. As far as I know those fees don’t directly affect the associates although they may indirectly but we’ll have to see.
     We really don’t even have the shop yet ol beav.

851. Comment by beavis | May 3rd, 2009

     Any of you reading this blog that have considered joining Droobli can now see that this “investment” is a poorly operated scam run by a bunch of ego driven liars. The auctions are a bust and the online shopping mall is a rebranded portal that is run by a company with a burn rate that places its future highly in question. I dare anybody to show otherwise. My statements are verifiable and accurate. Let me ask you Gene, who has been more accurate about Droobli, your upline or me? Have I lied or exaggerated? Have I ignored facts? Honestly ask yourself who tells you the truth, Gene; me or Droobli.

852. Comment by Gene | May 3rd, 2009

     I don’t see any scam here beav. What’s your beef? Maybe you are disapointed in the choice of a shop but it’s a shop none the less.

853. Comment by beavis | May 3rd, 2009

     Actually the shop is decent quality, for what it is. It was not built by Droobli and it cannot drive Droobli to its advertised goals. It appears to me, in all fairness, to be a good add-on to a successful existing business (which Droobli does not possess); it is not a business by itself and surely not going to be the grossly exaggerated game changer of which you have been sold. Gene, where do you think this is going? Do you really see the auctions gaining traction? Do you see this add-on shopping mall model being the next eBay or exceeding Google in stature? It is time for a reality check. This is not what you were sold which is a polite way of saying your were lied to. This business model does not have the potential of doing anything remotely resembling what the liars at Droobli advertised. Think about what I wrote and tell me if you disagree. Also, ask yourself, “who has the best track record of accuracy and disclosure, Droobli or beavis”.

854. Comment by Lazbit | May 4th, 2009

     I’ve uncovered a super secret memo on ‘Phase 3′ of the Droobli success plan. Chocolate. Yes, friends, chocolate. Think about it, in these tough economic times, people need comfort food. And chocolate is the first one they turn to. After the proven success in germany, the multiple viral roll-outs in the U.S., amazing auction traffic that sometimes breaks two figures, and a killer e-commerce site that is so good, 60 other companies are using it… Now comes the _real_ money maker:

     http://www.worldsfinestfundraising.com/

     Kaching!! 50% profit on each bar sold. How can you beat that? Sure, school kids sell it too, but that just shows that it’s successful. And with the phenomenal reach of Droobli, it will soon topple Nestle, Hersheys, and every other confectioner in our way. How? Reverse chocolate auctions, that’s how. The details are complicated, so just listen to a webinar. It will all become clear.

855. Comment by beavis | May 4th, 2009

     My information must be old. I heard Phase 3 was magazine subscriptions.

856. Comment by beavis | May 6th, 2009

     Droobli webinar claims Droobli will spend $50,000,000 on advertising. I’m going to assume they mean US dollars. To put that into perspective, that’s the approximate ad budget of the new Star Trek movie. The $80,000,000 they claim for software development is approximately the same as the cost to develop World of Warcraft. Boggles the imagination. If we didn’t know they always tell the truth at Droobli one might think they were LYING

857. Comment by Gene | May 11th, 2009

     My store is up and running. Please join me.

858. Comment by Michael | May 12th, 2009

     Has anyone heard of Efusjon – Acai Berry Energy Drink.

     It looks like a better opportunity than Droobli!!

859. Comment by Gene | May 12th, 2009

     While your making it with your opportunity be sure to check out my store online.

860. Comment by beavis | May 12th, 2009

     What’s better than a pyramid scheme? Two pyramid schemes! Remember the cardinal rules of pyramid schemes, boys; the ones on the bottom lose and the ones on top have to make enough money to leave the country so the aforementioned can’t get a hold of them.

861. Comment by Gene | May 12th, 2009

     You got it beav

862. Comment by Gene | May 13th, 2009

     If you’d like to save money on brand name new products you’re welcome to shop. Beav. You don’t need to join any pyramid scheme! Check this out and compare prices,
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     Instant Savings $193

     Subtotal $729
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     Operating SystemGenuine Windows Vista® Home Premium Edition SP1 32 Bit
     Specifications – Operating System
     LCD PanelGlossy, widescreen 15.6 inch display (1366×768)
     Combo or DVD+RW Drive8X CD / DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive)
     Memory4GB3 Shared Dual Channel DDR2 at 800MHz
     Hard Drive320GB4 SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM)
     Specifications – Hard Drive
     Video CardIntel Graphics Media Accelerator X4500HD
     SoundHigh Definition Audio 2.0
     Wireless Networking CardsIntel WiFi Link 5100 802.11 Wireless-N Mini Card
     Battery Options6-cell battery
     System ColorPacific Blue
     Hardware Support Services2Yr Ltd Hardware Warranty,5 InHome Service after Remote Diagnosis6INSPIRON 15
     More Memory! 2 Years Service and Support! 4 new color options available!
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863. Comment by beavis | May 13th, 2009

     Yes, Gene, that is what Dell sells that notebook for on their website; exact same price to the penny. I would then get a $5.47 rewards credit by using your mall. I’m not saying I wouldn’t take the money, but the fact I have to register and accept the money in a restricted form wouldn’t be terribly motivating, either. I honestly don’t think the shopping mall is bad; but you are not going to drive enough traffic through it to be worth your while. What is your cut of $5.47 on what I consider to be a significant purchase and what is you cost to setup and maintain your presence? You would also have to factor in your required yearly fees including token purchase requirements (I don’t consider being part of the auctions a benefit because, well, the auctions suck).

864. Comment by Gene | May 13th, 2009

     We get a percentage of all sales on our site. We also make money on selling credits. Grant it that the auctions aren’t going that great yet but my hope is that they will. The auctions are not the main point it’s just something we have other than other online stores. The prices go down in the auctions. Even if the starting price is the same other places the potential of a savings is still there. From what I understand the starting prices will begin to be cheaper than anywhere on the net.So right off the bat you could get a savings. But can you imagine saving up to 90%? And with the zero auctions you can get new products for the credits you spend and the shipping cost. It is not a big deal to register. I had to give much more info to get into a social network. Just go to my site and see.

865. Comment by Gene | May 13th, 2009

     To be more specific beav. An associate earns 10 to 25 percent of that $5.47. You can do the math. The nice thing about the company is the viral nature of customer acquisition. It grows on it’s own unlike other networking companies where you must continue to recruit. Now with 1,000’s of customers and growing that could mean some change. Also you can benefit from any other associates customers in your organization. Pretty cool!

866. Comment by beavis | May 13th, 2009

     You missed the part about what it cost to participate on your end, Gene.I actually don’t begrudge the mall as it is actually somewhat viable in that it does offer something of value to the consumer. I just don’t think it works the way Droobli is selling it to you as the overhead of buying the right to collect your overrides is more than what you will reasonably earn. If you were an association like a credit union with 1000’s of members, the mall would make sense and that is what Maedianet intended it for. Also, I think you overestimate what you are geting paid by Droobli. Medianet’s compensation plan is as follows:

     “BSP REWARDS PROGRAM: MediocreNet shall, upon collection, remit to Member
     Provider _1_% of the net Rewards earned by Members through and provided directly
     by it, and _1_% of the net Member Rewards received and collected that is earned
     through Merchants, Companies, Organizations, Groups and individuals that have
     been contracted through Member Provider. ”

     Your compensation would be between 5 and 6 cents on this transaction. I think you are severely underestimating how much business you have to create in order to make a profit. In order to make money you will have to recruit associates, not sell product. You have bought into a pyramid scheme, Gene; that’s how they work. As far as the viral nature of the company, I don’t see it. Auction growth, as we both know, is not happening. That leaves the mall which is already established and while I assume they are doing OK with it, it is not a Droobli exclusive and it won’t make an individual rich as that is not what it is geared for. So, what is Droobli going to do tom make something happen? I’ve on pro-Droobli blogs that they will spend $50,000,000 on advertising to launch this. I personally think that $5,000 would be on the high side for this company as I don’t believe they are rich; I don’t believe they hang with the ultra-wealthy and I don’t believe they have anywhere near the investment in this project as they claim.

     Gene, I joined this blog a couple of months ago and the big thing was “wait for the launch on April 4th”. When they had their meeting in Scotsdale, Droobli execs said “by the end of April”. this company is not delivering on the revenues. they don’t have a significant revenue stream from anybody except those they talk into becoming associates. You need to confront these people and demand to know what is their business plan, in full, along with the timetable that is supposed to make you money. Right now you have nothing from them that will that except talking other people into buying Gold packages.

867. Comment by Gene | May 14th, 2009

     I am glad you like the mall but I know you don’t know what you’re talking about beav. Don’t you like pyramid schemes beav? Better not get in one. I’m not in one! The nice thing about this business once it’s going it’s growing on it’s own. That’s the viral nature. So I am not severely underestimating how much business I have to create and you seem to miss this point.You don’t have to see the viral nature of the business. You’re not in it. So what! Who said the company would have an exclusive mall? We have unique auctions. Listen to my audio. You don’t seem to learn easily. People can make extra money with the company in time. No scam here beav. Just honest business. If I want to make 50 cents or a dollar a sale that’s my business isn’t it? They do add up. What I told you on percentages is the fact, you’re bewildered. Stop twisting the facts. What’s wrong with talking other people into buying packages. They can turn them around and make money in the process? Your ideas have not been consistent.
     Shopping Mall Commissions
     Your personal customers will access the Shopping Mall from the link on your auction site. Each item in the shopping mall has a % discount and the discount is noted on the same line following the description of the item. This percentage of the total price of the item is the amount of available commissionable dollars.
     For example let’s say an item costs $100.00 and there is a 5% discount. Actually that’s a pretty good discount and most are not that high but some are higher from what I can see. That means that the customer will receive a $5.00 rebate at the end of the month that they can choose to load on their own “Load and Spend” Debit Card. They can use this card anywhere they want that a Master Card or Discover card is accepted. The commissions will be earned as follows:

     When a personal customer of a BA (title of TM and higher) purchases an item in the Shopping Mall, the BA will earn a 10% commission. Let’s use the same example from above where the customer rebate is $5.00.

     10% of $5.00 = a commission of $ .50 or if you get 25% it’s
     $1.25 of that $5.00 if you are at the VP level.

     You can kind of look at it as pay per click. After all it’s going on and you have nothing to do with it once set in motion except to provide credits for those who want to do the auctions. You’ll have to have credits you know.

     The company takes enormous pride in its worldwide trading platform that features the best name brand products, produced by the world’s leading manufacturers, for far less money than you can buy anywhere else and at the same time makes it a fun experience for all. We invite you to join us today and begin a new chapter in creating a lifestyle one can only imagine.

868. Comment by Gene | May 14th, 2009

     HP EliteBook 6930pValue: $1,170.50

     Ended: 05.09.2009

     Sold for: $848.00

     See for yourself beav in the auctions you think
     suck. LOL It took 1290 click of 25 cents multiply
     by 55 cents = $709.50 goes into the bonus pool for the associates.

     Try this one which finishe a couple of days ago. Boy do the auctions suck. $145.45 savings opps you have to factor in some credits at 80 cents. If this person used $8.00 worth of credits then it’s a savings of only a mere $137.45.

     iPod nano- chromatic 16 GB silverValue: $174.95
     Ended: 05.12.2009
     Sold for: $29.50

869. Comment by CU | May 14th, 2009

     If I play slots and win, that doesn’t mean the machines are generally a good deal for players. The fact that they may be a good deal for the owner doesn’t necessarily make them legal.

     As for the shopping mall, why would anyone invest in an operation (Droobli) that only offers a facade? MediocreNet has the relationships with the vendors. They have the technology. If you think the mall is a good idea, invest in MediocreNet instead.

     However, as interesting as the mall is, I don’t recommend investing in MediocreNet either. In support of beavis’ point, the company’s auditors have stated two years running “that there are certain factors which raise substantial doubt about the Company’s ability to continue as a going concern.” Anyone investing in MediocreNet at this point should be considering a substantial stake, a role in management and a plan for turn-around.

870. Comment by beavis | May 14th, 2009

     Gene,

     Medianet pays a 1% of the rebate as gross commission to the Member Provider which is Droobli. You get a percentage of that. Based on your example of a $100 purchase with a 5% rebate, Droobli would collect 1% of $5.00 which is 5 cents. Now I don’t know what your payout is but if it is 5% then you would earn 1/4 of a cent on that $100 dollar purchase. If you have a different arrangement please share it with us. Also, you never told us what the cost was to set up a mall of your own.

     And your computer auction example: my guess it is all of you Gold package fools using up worthless tokens. You’re lining Droobli pockets and screwing yourselves. I guess that is a good thing, though; it is preparing you for the inevitable collapse of the pyramid.

871. Comment by Gene | May 14th, 2009

     Beavis,

     You are full of it. I just told you what it is. Go back and read it. It doesn’t matter what you think beav you’re just in the business of tearing down other peoples business. My mall cost me nothing more than I’ve already invested. It doesn’t matter who uses up the tokens does it? The prices still go down and people get good deals. Products are being moved. It’s a real business. Too bad you’re too unwilling to see. Aren’t pyramids still standing today. LOL Go to my site and read the pay plan. It’s there for you to read. See if you can find your way to this, http://www.drooblinetwork.com/1-23/comp_plan_overview

872. Comment by Lazbit | May 15th, 2009

     Sorry, Gene, but it all comes back to the basics:

     Your sad auction site had 6 completed Xpress auctions yesterday.

     The MediocreNet stores, which can be started by anyone without the need to go through Droobli, offer fairly unremarkable prices and tiny commissions. I seriously doubt any new Droobli associate would ever make back their initial investment in credits.

     The ’shopping portal’ that was supposed to really set the world on fire turned out to be lame franchise of an existing firm. It’s the equivalent of Burger King’s expansion strategy being to buy McDonald’s franchises. But I guess Droobli can’t create something original with all those millions of programming/infrastructure/marketing dollars we kept hearing about. It doesn’t exactly inspire trust or confidence in the business savvy of the folks running the show.

     It all goes back to what’s been argued all along: the only real money being made is from saps recruiting new saps until it all eventually falls apart – just like every other pyramid.

873. Comment by beavis | May 15th, 2009

     Gene,

     You’re right! The commission is as you said and I was wrong. It doesn’t mean Droobli works because the commissions are still too small; but at least I can admit when I’m wrong.

     Lazbit,

     “It’s the equivalent of Burger King’s expansion strategy being to buy McDonald’s franchises.”

     I think it is more like Tommy’s Burgers buying McDougal’s (“Home of the Golden Arcs”).

874. Comment by Charlie | May 16th, 2009

     Just for the record my last comment was number 763, so who ever is really in charge of this site, please don’t let anyone post comments with my name or my E-mail, I am especially not responsible for comment 787 I will not be posting any more. Thank You

875. Comment by Gene | May 16th, 2009

     You see anyone can have an online store but if you can’t generate any traffic it doesn’t matter what you sell. We sell just about anything you can find on the net worthwhile. If people think we have to be a manufacturer and come up with new products to sell that’s just stupid. With that being said our mall works just fine. Although I am into free enterprise and we do need to come up with new products that can benefit mankind. We should not be satisfied with the status quo. Thus we have auctions where when the masses discover them and see that our prices go down instead of up they will see the value. Just because some stupid ideas float around that auctions aren’t working just shows the ignorance of those business bashers that don’t want anyone to succeed in something viable even though it’s just developing. Our job is to get this great info to the masses and let them determine for themselves value without being influenced by some dopes that think they got all your answers. The nice thing for any that want to try the auctions is that in our promotions we are willing to give away credits so you can try the auctions to see if you can find any value with them. Now how cool is that? You’re not out anything to familiarize yourself with our auctions and shopping mall. If you don’t want to do the auction and want to benefit from the rewards mall shopping program just click shop and forgo the auctions. Just register and you will have access to both the auctions and the shopping mall. Have fun!

876. Comment by Daneel | May 16th, 2009

     Why am I not able to post here?

877. Comment by Joel | May 16th, 2009

     Sounds pretty cool Gene I will check it out!!

878. Comment by Gene | May 16th, 2009

     OK Joel let me know if you have any questions.

879. Comment by undercoverbeavis | May 16th, 2009

     Me too, Gene!! Can I have a straw with my KoolAide?

880. Comment by Gene | May 16th, 2009

     Oh check the auctions undercover~~~~

881. Comment by undercoverbeavis | May 17th, 2009

     OK, Xpress auction sold less than $1,600 retail value worth of merchandise yesterday, Zero auction did less than $400 and Unique Bid less than $1.300. I actually had to use some of my toes to count the completed auction (15; “WOOHOO!”). Are you happy, Gene?

     Remember:
     “The more you bid, the less you’re worth!”

882. Comment by Gene | May 17th, 2009

     Beav so what. Are you counting. It makes no difference. It’s still a viable business. Beav Remember
     “The more you you think you know the more people can see it.”

883. Comment by Gene | May 17th, 2009

     Are you Happy beav?

884. Comment by Lazbit | May 18th, 2009

     I understand that building traffic takes a bit of time, Gene — but you’ve had since October 4th (read back to comment 11). You’re close to 9 months out, and your traffic continues to be dismal. By way of comparison — when eBay first launched more than 10 years ago, within it’s first 9 months, it had thousands of listings and tens of thousands of bids. They had a difficult time buying enough servers and optimizing their auction platform to keep up with the growth — with a far smaller number of Internet users (according to Pew research, only 15% of the US population was online when eBay launched – 80% of the population is online now). Even after giving away credits and the so called second launch, you’re barely able to break double digits.

     I’ll give any new business the benefit of the doubt, but if all you can manage after 9 months of heavy promotion is 15 closed auctions… After all the webinars / spamming / chest beating that Droobli has done… That’s just embarrassingly sad.

885. Comment by beavis | May 18th, 2009

     Nothing like following the self-proclaimed geniuses into the abyss.

886. Comment by Gene | May 18th, 2009

     It’s no the auctions stupid.

887. Comment by Gene | May 18th, 2009

     You guys make me so sick. Bash bash bash that’s all you do. Even when you know it not a scam. It’s not the auctions stupid.

888. Comment by beavis | May 18th, 2009

     Gene,

     We know it’s not the auctions; I know hookers that bring in more bank than Droobli auctions do. And the rened shopping mal? Please! So, “yes”, Gene, we all know its none of the aforementioned. It’s the pyramid; for as long as it lasts. Christ, a monkey can figure out this “business” scam, I mean, plan.

889. Comment by Eleuterio | May 19th, 2009

     The Spanish version of Droobli is also SCUM.
     A friend paid 500€ to become a promoter and he’s still brainwashed into a sort of religion to believe without proof or profits.

890. Comment by Lazbit | May 19th, 2009

     All along we’ve heard the auctions would draw the traffic, then traffic would go to the shopping portal. Then the bucks would roll in.

     After 9 months (which is eons in the e-commerce world), you don’t have traffic at the auctions. And the shopping portal, run by a dying penny stock 3rd party, offers a tiny cut of the profit they make. If you had insane traffic, that might work – but you don’t. And you won’t if the auction site is your only draw.

     With no feasible business plan, the only thing left is fleecing people who aren’t aware of just how broken the whole thing is. Just like Spain. And Germany. And soon China, when it falls apart here, just as it has elsewhere.

891. Comment by Eugene | May 19th, 2009

     Eaglescout et. al — thanks for an entertaining afternoon!

     I’d never heard of Droobli before this (which speaks volumes, I suppose, for how effective their promotion strategy has been), and I stumbled across this discussion in an interesting way.

     One of the major people behind Droobli in the U.S. (if the early press releases are any indications) is a Floridian named Alfred Luckerbauer. It would seem that Mr. Luckerbauer put down a deposit on a prospective flying car known as a Moller M400 Skycar (see Wikipedia for details). Anyway, Mr. Luckerbauer filed a report on Ripoff Report (see http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/450/ripoff0450200.htm) about not being able to get his deposit back from Moller International. I found out about Droobli (and this exchange) by looking up Alfred Luckerbauer in Google.

     Could it be that one scammer has been fleeced by another?

892. Comment by Gene | May 19th, 2009

     Same song and dance which is erroneous. Come on be a little more creative boys. You want to have an online store and make money while you sleep. Get in while the getting is good. Or just dream about it. Or believe these real smart guys here on this blog. They have real business acumen. LOL they only wish they could have come up with the reverse auctions themselves. It is easy to tear down. It’s much more work to build. We are still in the building stages I don’t care how these jokers frame things.

893. Comment by beavis | May 20th, 2009

     “We are still in the building stages I don’t care how these jokers frame things.”

     Well, then build it! Stop having your happy meetings, quit telling everyone how you’re the “next eBay”, stop having launch after relaunch; enough talk; prove it! Droobli auctions suck; the mall is an afterthought; the corporate offices are a joke; the claims of Droobli corporate of their financial commitment is complete and utter bull. Just shut up and do something! The stupid company is six years old and does less business than a pimp with a mediocre stable and yet you followers still believe that somehow, someway Droobli will pull a miracle out of its ass that will make you wealthy while not having to work and for that you gave them $3,200 with nothing more than an unsupported story of success in Europe base on what has proven to be an unsuccessful auction concept and a rented mall site that pays low commissions and has no substantial track record especially when it is compared to eBay. You didn’t even get financials on these clowns; you just listened and believed. they literally paraded it around in your face that their financial advisors were in the business of hiding money in offshore accounts and they new you would be too stupid to figure it out; “Offshore Investment Brokers”, what do you think that means? I’m sure they are laughing their asses of at you sheep as they shear you. Droobli=FAIL

894. Comment by Gene | May 20th, 2009

     beav,

     Do we tell you how to run your business. It’s none of your business how we do it. The company is only months old here in the US and you are not even here are you? Not even a year. Ever hear this before? It’s the economy stupid. Now I am not calling anyone stupid but if the shoe fits you have to know enough where to put it. beav=FAIL you failed to prove anything about the company being a scam yet it is still here going strong and building. We beav keep on this merry-go-round of hyped reports of a scam. You just like to see your failed ideas in print. No I didn’t get any financials. Can you? I just know it’s a great concept and I stuck my neck out cause I have this supernatural belief as you seem to paint it, that it will succeed. If it doesn’t then I didn’t lose my house. Bad mouth bad mouth that’s all you do. Buy in my auctions and buy in my shop. You will get your products in a reasonable time, save money, get reward points in my second rate shop as you seem to think of it. I don’t know of another shop that could do any better do you and don’t tell me ebay? LOL Get a life beav! We have a successfully operating business that will be a spectacle. Products are being moved and if you don’t like the volume then jump in and work the business yourself. Off shore investments are a pretty good place to be while you think of what’s happening with money domestically. We need to have more launches because we have more coming. Isn’t that what you do? Well then build it. I’ve been building it. Why don’t you just shut up then. That could help. I’ve already shown how you’ve tried to distort the comp plan. Yes we do try to bring on associates and yes we get paid for our efforts but there will come a time when that will slow down. But it’s still a good opportunity now.

895. Comment by Gene | May 20th, 2009

     Here ya go beave try this out for size. New launch,

     Best Price Guarantee: always the lowest price
     Customers have lots of options where to purchase the things they are looking for. Price is one of the biggest reasons people choose to purchase at a particular store or internet site. Our goal at GroobLi is to make sure that our price is truly the best price you can find anywhere. We are so sure of this that we are willing to give you a Price Protection Guarantee.

     If you find a competitor who has the same product at a lower price than ours, within two weeks after you have purchased the item from us, we will not only match their price but also credit your account with 10% of the difference. For example you purchase an item from us at $100 and you find another vendor who has the same product and is advertising it for $90, we will credit you the $10 difference plus an additional $1.00 for a total of $11.00.

     Now how great is that beav?

896. Comment by Gene | May 20th, 2009

     * This policy applies to advertised prices only. It applies only to items sold in the auction portals at GroobLi.com. It does not apply to items sold in the shopping mall. Items must be identical models. It does not apply to closeouts, bonus or free offers, financing offers, mail-in rebates, returned open merchandise, used products, or similar special conditions.

897. Comment by Dave | May 20th, 2009

     For our dear, sweet Gene:

     “…going strong and building…” ?

     “…successfully operating business that will be a spectacle.” ?

     Okay, I’ll agree with the “spectacle” part (though probably not in the vein you’d hoped).

     I’ve just spent the better part of the afternoon wading through everyone’s diatribes…a giggle here, a guffaw there…

     Gene reminds me of my “simple” cousin, Dell: smiling and upbeat and almost painfully optimistic — but every 3rd statement or assertion is just bonkers. Can’t hate, ’cause he’s not malicious. Can’t argue, ’cause it’s like saying, “Put on your raincoat” and hearing the reply, “I don’t like cheese crackers.”

     Feels like eaglescout started out wanting to inform the public of inconsistencies in GroobLi’s set-up; the resulting fallout has been the equivalent of a “rascist” claim to a criticism of Pres. Obama’s policy missteps.

     “Due diligence,” folks. If it stinks, walk around it. If it’s an acceptable risk, dive right in and ignore (Gene, that’s “pay no attention to”) the rest.

898. Comment by Gene | May 20th, 2009

     For our dear tweet Dave, WHAT? Another parrot.

899. Comment by beavis | May 20th, 2009

     “* This policy applies to advertised prices only. It applies only to items sold in the auction portals at GroobLi.com. It does not apply to items sold in the shopping mall. Items must be identical models. It does not apply to closeouts, bonus or free offers, financing offers, mail-in rebates, returned open merchandise, used products, or similar special conditions.”

     You fucking moron, you are insulting our intelligence with this. Of course the auction prices are lower; the money for Droobli is in getting the prices lower with the stupid 80 cent tokens reducing the price only 25 cents. So your shopping mall doesn’t offer this? I thought the shopping mall was supposed to have “the lowest prices on the Internet”. Once again a refusal to back up the overinflated hype. Droobli sucks, the auctions suck, the mall is mediocre and you are a fooooooooooooooooooool, Gene. Let’s all join Gene by giving $3200 to strangers who tell us happy stories of us getting our long deserved wealth with little effort. You’re making it hard for us to look out for the “short bus” people, Gene.

900. Comment by CU | May 21st, 2009

     It’s hard to take seriously a “Best Price Guarantee” that has no place in an auction. In fact, it has no relevance to the Zero auction and makes the Xpress auction pointless. The Xpress auction becomes unsustainable, unless the purpose is to push traffic in order to sell more BA licenses… re-enter the pyramid.

901. Comment by Gene | May 21st, 2009

     Why such a hair brain comment CU? Customers have lots of options where to purchase the things they are looking for. Price is one of the biggest reasons people choose to purchase at a particular store or Internet site. If we can give them the best deals they will always come back.
     Yes we want more BA licenses sold. The more the merrier. We’ll get more customers and the prices will fall faster. You hit the nail on the head there, “to push more traffic” for both ventures to acquire customers and associates. dah. You must see the value here CU.
     Of course it’s all the auctions that apply. A starting price is a starting price. It certainly does affect all the auctions in terms of revenue earned. If a pyramid let it be stopped. But really you have no case. This is a store and it’s online and we have auctions to drive customers to our store. Silly silly! Another parrot

902. Comment by JoeV | May 21st, 2009

     Not to interrupt the debate but I saw that a person over at answerpatrol.com was asking how to get some free droobli credits. I’m sure someone here can help him out. Here is the direct link: http://www.answerpatrol.com/questions.php?cat=Droobli

     by the way, whats up with the shopping mall??? looks like an affiliate link page to me not a mall.

903. Comment by Gene | May 21st, 2009

     JoeV just send them to my site. Click on my name above and you will get to it.

904. Comment by beavis | May 21st, 2009

     You can give me free tokens, Gene. I’ll treat them for what they’re worth.

905. Comment by Gene | May 21st, 2009

     Beav if you like some credits just go to my site fill out the form and register for the auctions and you’ll get some. Simple as that. Oh and they could be worth a lot to you. If you use them.

906. Comment by CU | May 22nd, 2009

     Shall I type slowly for you, Gene? Applying the price guarantee to the Xpress auction. The smart consumers will find the cheapest price on the web or in stores for an item offered by Droobli, bid one token at Droobli, buy the item for 25 cents off retail, then collect the difference + 10% from Droobli. Such a model isn’t sustainable, unless it drives revenue from other sources.

     Since a customer only needs to us one token per purchase to make this work, it effectively kills the auction format. There is no incentive for customers to purchase tokens in volume. Token sale revenue from customers will be minimal.

     That leaves only the BA licenses as a potential significant revenue stream. Thus you have a pyramid scheme.

     If you still don’t understand, look up the definition of a pyramid in various state laws. Most of them use the same verbage. …and if you still don’t understand, I guess I’m not surprised. After all, you already bought into Droobli.

907. Comment by beavis | May 22nd, 2009

     “Shall I type slowly for you, Gene? Applying the price guarantee to the Xpress auction. The smart consumers will find the cheapest price on the web or in stores for an item offered by Droobli, bid one token at Droobli, buy the item for 25 cents off retail, then collect the difference + 10% from Droobli. Such a model isn’t sustainable, unless it drives revenue from other sources.”

     I LIKE IT!!! Only fly in the ointment is you would have to trust Droobli to honor the price guarantee. I don’t know if i would do that but it sure shoots a big, fat hole in their price guarantee model. Droobli=FAIL

908. Comment by Gene | May 22nd, 2009

     Hey CU what’s a token? I think the state laws have been covered here or do I need to speak slooowly? If you can find a better price after you buy with me have at it. I don’t worry about the auctions being sustainable. That’s not my business. You guys are having a rough time aren’t you? If you’re going to collect the difference plus 10% you’re going to have to find a cheaper price within the allotted time. If you think you can make money doing it then go for it. But you’ll have to buy from one of us first.

909. Comment by Lazbit | May 22nd, 2009

     It keeps coming back to the basics: First post in this thread: September 27th, 2008. As of May 21st, 2009, a whopping 8 Xpress auctions were completed. 8 months of hype and development for a volume of 8 auctions. And, again, this will be the basis of all that traffic Droobli will drive to it’s (affiliate) online mall. ::cough::

     You’re failing miserably, you need a game changer, and the price guarantee isn’t it. Seriously Gene, give Amway, MonaVie or something else a go. Aren’t you just a little embarrassed trying to talk people in to this dog of a pyramid? Do you really feel happy looking in the mirror after you’ve talked some poor sap who’s down on his luck into sinking what little money he has left into Failbli?

910. Comment by beavis | May 22nd, 2009

     Where is our favorite sociopath, “jamison”?

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913. Comment by eaglescout | May 24th, 2009

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914. Comment by Well Well | May 24th, 2009

     what’s the big deal eagle? I can’t sell some stuff here?

915. Comment by beavis | May 24th, 2009

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919. Comment by beavis | May 25th, 2009

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920. Comment by Well Well | May 25th, 2009

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921. Comment by beavis | May 25th, 2009

     You’re thinking of those stupid, grossly overpriced berry drinks. We’re talking the Nectar of the Gods, here. Beer, ummmmmmmmm. . . unless you have some single malt scotch; then screw the Beta-Gloucan.

922. Comment by Well Well | May 25th, 2009

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     By B. Govern “Bee-Dot-Govern” (New Jersey, USA) – See all my reviews
     (REAL NAME)
     This item has wolves on it which makes it intrinsically sweet and worth 5 stars by itself, but once I tried it on, that’s when the magic happened. After checking to ensure that the shirt would properly cover my girth, I walked from my trailer to Wal-mart with the shirt on and was immediately approached by women. The women knew from the wolves on my shirt that I, like a wolf, am a mysterious loner who knows how to ‘howl at the moon’ from time to time (if you catch my drift!). The women that approached me wanted to know if I would be their boyfriend and/or give them money for something they called mehth. I told them no, because they didn’t have enough teeth, and frankly a man with a wolf-shirt shouldn’t settle for the first thing that comes to him.

     I arrived at Wal-mart, mounted my courtesy-scooter (walking is such a drag!) sitting side saddle so that my wolves would show. While I was browsing tube socks, I could hear aroused asthmatic breathing behind me. I turned around to see a slightly sweaty dream in sweatpants and flip-flops standing there. She told me she liked the wolves on my shirt, I told her I wanted to howl at her moon. She offered me a swig from her mountain dew, and I drove my scooter, with her shuffling along side out the door and into the rest of our lives. Thank you wolf shirt.

     Pros: Fits my girthy frame, has wolves on it, attracts women
     Cons: Only 3 wolves (could probably use a few more on the ‘guns’), cannot see wolves when sitting with arms crossed, wolves would have been better if they glowed in the dark.

926. Comment by beavis | May 28th, 2009

     eaglescout,

     WOLVES!!!!! Why didn’t I think of that! Is there a multi-level marketing prospect here for wolf products so I can get rich with little effort as long as I blindly trust you with upfront money?

927. Comment by Gene | May 29th, 2009

     Beav how much effort do you suggest is needed to
     get rich? You make no or little sense if you want to get
     rich why cry wolf just join a company that has auctions
     where you can make money 24/7 with little effort.

928. Comment by beavis | May 30th, 2009

     You mean spend money to join a company that has auctions, Gene. Remember the $3,199 to buy your gold Package and then the storefront costs. Do you know how much blow I could snort off of a hooker’s ass with that much money? Trust me, it would be a better investment then Droobli.

929. Comment by Gene | May 30th, 2009

     You’re not one to be trusted. You’re busted.

930. Comment by beavis | May 30th, 2009

     Here

     http://www.tshirthell.com/funny-shirts/id-rather-be-snorting-cocaine-off-a-hookers-ass/

     if you can’t afford the real thing after investing in Droobli.

931. Comment by Xray_vision | June 1st, 2009

     I have to tell you first hand the guy they put in charge in the U.S. has a LONG history of scams. Jonathan Gulla has been into every MLM scheme that has come down the pike since the 1970’s. I got involved with him in a MLM in the early 90’s and lost my money and he skipped town to keep from getting lynched by the others he stole from. Everything this smooth talker promised was a bold face lie. He is such a great conman he makes you believe every single lie he tells. IF they are hard up for this caliber of Con they must be in trouble already….

     Ray

932. Comment by undercoverbeavis | June 4th, 2009

     Xray_vision,

     I see; Droobli has experienced management. Go Dumbli. . . er. . . droobli.

933. Comment by eaglescout | June 5th, 2009

     Thank you, X-ray,

     Jonathan Gulla didn’t come up in my initial investigation (even though he’s apparently been with GroobLi since 2008).

     Here is some information on Gulla:

     PDI Clinical Labs – Mail and Wire Fraud, 2001
     Capital Credit – Fake Credit cards, 1999-2000

     In 1999, Gulla sells Lancer International (Nevada) to StarTronix International (Delaware) in exchange for $50,000 cash and $673,000 in stock. Becomes COO of STNX.

     (StarTronix was targeted by law enforcement during Operation Missed Fortune for being a pyramid scheme in 1996).

     PDI Clinical Labs ad:

     PDI Clinical Labs is accepting participants into their studies on weight loss & metabolism, depression, stress, fatigue, sleep, pain, concentration, and anti-aging. Registration is FREE and qualified participants may be compensated for their participation. First time participants also recieve 2 free weeks worth of nutritional products. You may participate in as many studies as you like from the privacy of your home. You may received 2 free weeks of nutritional products for each study you register in. All materials are mailed to you within 48 hours. To received your free registration and your free materials, please send a large self-addressed, stamped envelope with a $2 handling fee for each study you wish to participate in to the following address. Please indicate which study or studies you are registering for.

     Is GroobLi management incompetent, or is there a shortage of experienced scammers with clean records?

934. Comment by beavis | June 6th, 2009

     “Is GroobLi management incompetent, or is there a shortage of experienced scammers with clean records?”

     People like Jamison and Gene don’t do background checks or research, so Droobli still survives (though barely). They just buy in and talk their friends and relatives into doing the same. Then they try to belittle those who do the research and claim that we don’t have their business acumen. It kind of comical in a sad, pathetic kind of way.

935. Comment by TW | June 8th, 2009

     I have been looking at Droobli for some time now and trying to determine the viability of this company and business opportunity. Unfortunately, it has seemed difficult at times to really get straight answers and facts among the banter and and speculation. However, I just ran across this website that seems to offer some real information worth considering. All I can say after viewing this and reading the content contained within the page is “buyer beware.”
     http://www.mlmhelpdesk.com/2009/05/18/are-droobli-and-droobli-network-legit-mlm-business-opportunities-or-scams/

936. Comment by eaglescout | June 8th, 2009

     TW, It’s a good page, unfortunately Troy Dooly seems to be selling similar MLM “opportunities”.

937. Comment by beavis | June 8th, 2009

     The site has some good facts but the author is not too astute. Droobli may be a ripoff, but there are a few things it is not. It is not a money laundering operation. It may utilize money laundering techniques in the future to repatriate money hidden in offshore accounts if it is shut down and judgments rendered, but it is not in the business of laundering money. Cash businesses are utilized for laundering money (the Mafia used pizza restaurants for that purpose). Money laundering is the act of taking “dirty money” and making it appear to be legit. To my knowledge there is no link to Droobli doing this kind of business. They just bend over their ass-ociates.

938. Comment by TW | June 9th, 2009

     Eaglescout,

     I see some marketing tools, services and resources promoted on Troy’s page, but I don’t see any similar “opportunities” (which I assume you’re referring to MLM’s) promoted there. Can you clarify?

939. Comment by eaglescout | June 10th, 2009

     Sure, TW. I see http://www.mlmleads.com/ advertised there. Troy Dooly appears in one of the videos promoting the site. I don’t think Troy Dooly is malicious in intent, but the “services” he offers are difficult to distinguish from those he criticizes.

940. Comment by TW | June 10th, 2009

     He does seem to be an advocate for the MLM industry, hence the promotion of marketing tools such as leads. However, there’s not a direct promotion of any particular MLM going on there, from what I can see.

     He just posted an update to his last report:

     http://www.mlmhelpdesk.com/2009/06/09/droobli-network-mlm-scam-or-legitimate-mlm-business-update/

941. Comment by Troy Dooly | June 10th, 2009

     Hey all I want to set the record straight for all who have not read my bio at MLMHelpDesk.com.

     Yes, I am an advocate for MLM. I am a founding member od the Distributor’s Rights Association, and have enjoyed a great life within the profession.

     I do have an equity stake in MLMLeads.com and several other support services within MLM, and have made money off of GroobLi reps buying leads and other services.

     However, I DO NOT, nor have I ever promoted my personal MLM Business at MLMHelpDesk.com, nor do I bad talk companies just to further my own business, as is well documented at MLMHelpDesk.com.

     As I have written, I have no personal agenda against GroobLi or any of it’s companies, founder, partners or sales force. As a matter of fact, one of my personal mentors is a top leader in the company, and had I joined I would have benefited from our relationship.

     I just want reps to fully understand what they are getting into. As I have written several times, “in the end only a court of law can decide.”

     I hate watching good people get drawn into legal battles when the FTC goes after companies, let alone average distributors who get a bad taste in their mouth, when a company is found to be a scam, and slam the whole profession as bad.

     I have posted twice now on GroobLi and will gladly write a rebutted if and when the facts I presented are disputed with cold hard documents. My facts came from the GroobLi websites, and from interviewing some of their top leaders.

     I also made it very clear what was my personal opinion and what was facts. In all the posts I have read on GroobLi, I do believe mine have been the most factual, with links to all the questions I raise.

     In closing, I have also written positive articles on companies and leaders in which I have no part, and have publicly apologized when my facts were shown to be wrong, or have changed.

     My life is an open book, so you should have no problem verifying what I write to see where I stand on what I believe to be the greatest profession in the world.

     And to the Admin here at TheSpinFactor.com… Keep up the great debates!

     Never Give Up,

     Troy

942. Comment by eaglescout | June 11th, 2009

     Troy Dooly, thank you for the clarifications.

     However, I DO NOT, nor have I ever promoted my personal MLM Business at MLMHelpDesk.com, nor do I bad talk companies just to further my own business, as is well documented at MLMHelpDesk.com.

     My criticism thus far is that it is difficult to distinguish from the “good” MLMs you advocate and the “bad” MLMs that you criticize. It doesn’t matter to me if you promote it directly or indirectly; I don’t think it makes much of a difference.

     I don’t know if GroobLi is currently a money-laundering scheme or not; I’m not currently challenging the accuracy of your blog posts.

943. Comment by beavis | June 11th, 2009

     A “good MLM” is a dead MLM. When is the last time you saw an MLM that wasn’t a thinly disguised pyramid scheme? No, stop, I didn’t mean to ask that question. Please don’t tell me about your very legitimate (insert: “vitamin supplement”, “water conditioner”, “vacuum cleaner”, “hamster juice”, etc.) product. There is a reason Walmart doesn’t have it. Oh, crap, now you are going to tell me about the conspiracy to suppress your product by (insert: “the Surgeon General”, “FDA”, “CIA” or the always guilty “them”) or the story of the magnanimous inventor who wants to share it with the world by keeping the price down by directly marketing the prouct. Or, better yet, stick it to the smug bastards at eBay and Amazon with a fool proof idea to sell the public on a unique, reverse auction that is too sophisticated for anyone to sell except those that have foresight, perseverance and $3199 to invest.

944. Comment by kees | June 12th, 2009

     Hi, I have (only) read though the first 300 or so of posts here and/but I have done some searching on google about Droobli, and lots of times I see the cheerleaders mention something about the ‘big success’ of Droobli in Europe and about the ‘proven’ business model there, etc.

     Also I see how high the hopes of these cheerleaders are for the recent launch of Droobli in the US.

     But when I look at the EU and US Droobli sites (http://eu.droobli.com and http://us.droobli.com) I don’t see a lot of activity there regarding ‘current auctions’ and ‘completed auctions’.

     When I look at the 3 different models (Xpress, Zer0,- and Unique Bid) I see Xpress has the highest number of auctions on both the EU and US sites. So I guess that means the Xpress modality is the most popular.

     But even then, the total number of ‘current auctions’ (Xpress) on the US site is only 156 (at this moment that I write) and the ‘completed auctions’ show an average of about 10 per day.

     That’s not much. How long has the US site been active? Since October 2008, no? Doesn’t look like the past 8 months have generated a lot of buyers.

     The situation on the ‘very succesful and proven’ EU site is even worse:
     number of ‘current auctions’ is 101, and ‘completed auctions’ show an average of 1 or 2 per day. How can these results be described as ’succesful’ and ‘proven’?

     It hardly sounds like this is gonna be ‘THE busssiness opportunity of the 21st Century’…

     Also I don’t understand why I, as a potential buyer, would want to go to a Droobli ‘Business Associates’ (BA) site (with domain-name like ‘us.droobli.com/BA-NUMBER) to do my browsing/shopping/buying when I can go directly to the eu.droobli.com or us.droobli.com sites and buy my credits there (if I would want to)? …thus eliminating any BA (Business Associate) commissons in the process… and thus undermining the promised income for these BA’s…

     And worse: it appears there is not even a search-engine on the sites!
     In my opinion this is MUST-no1 on a site that wants/needs buyers or even just browsers to look at the products being offered.

     Additionaly: if Droobli is such a hot and new ‘THE opportunity of the 21st Century’ company, where are the serious (and independent) business press reports or stories about Droobli?

     For example, has Droobli ever been mentioned in any of the ecommerce blogs, like those from John ColderICE, Ina Steiner or Seeking Alpha (to name only a few)?

     Am I missing something here?

     (thanks eaglescout for this blog, great info here, from ‘both sides’)

     (and sorry for any spelling/grammar errors, I’m not a native speaker and I don’t have any spell-checker installed

945. Comment by Troy Dooly | June 12th, 2009

     Eagle Scout,

     You do bring up a great point on “good” .vs “bad” and I am not sure I can clarify the difference since the words “good” and “bad” can be very subjective with it comes to mlm and politics .

     What I can do, is share some case law showing the difference between a legitimate MLM/Network Marketing compensation plan and what is classified as illegal.

     I have found that most people who are proponents of MLM/Network Marketing and even critics really do not understand what they are talking about with it comes to these terms.

     I also agree with you on the fact we do not know if GroobLi is opporating as a “money Laundering Scheme” under current US laws, only a court of law will be able to make that determination.

     Thank you for your clarification, and open discussion.

     Never Give Up,

     Troy

946. Comment by Troy Dooly | June 12th, 2009

     Beavis,

     I find your posts and comments very humorous and engaging, even when I disagree

     I promise not to answer the question above that you did not mean to ask. Besides if I answered it, I would have to share the few companies who pay their field force through a MLM/ network marketing compensation plan who have, or are currently also selling their products through Wal-Mart, Target or other national retail chains, and in most cases allow their field force to establish these accounts.

     I would also have to share which name brand companies in business today started as MLM/ Network Marketing companies and out grew their need for a field force.

     But… I will not bore you and the readers with all this nonsense since I am a guest to this community.

     But, with all the tongue-n-cheek aside, you do bring up some very valid points, and the new buzz is starting to center around 5G Wireless Communications, which is so far advanced over the current 3G that none of the traditional telecommunication companies can afford to release it, only ONE very special “Top Secret, Super Pre-Launched, Fastest Growing, Biggest Ever, Get In Now, Or Your Will Forever Be Lost” company, who has created a patent pending (I just love that one) 3×9 force matrix, let me know if you need more info

     Never Give Up,

     Troy

947. Comment by beavis | June 12th, 2009

     Sorry, the gnomes in my basement have just released “6G connectivity” utilizing the bending of time to receive information before it is ever sent. In fact, I haven’t even sent this post yet but you still got it, didn’t you? If you would like to sell this fantastic technology please utilize our 6G Network to sign up yesterday before it is too late. You can still become a millionaire a week ago by signing up now!

948. Comment by eaglescout | June 13th, 2009

     I am not sure I can clarify the difference since the words “good” and “bad” can be very subjective with it comes to mlm and politics .

     What I can do, is share some case law showing the difference between a legitimate MLM/Network Marketing compensation plan and what is classified as illegal.

     There are many “opportunities” that fall under the strict classification of “legal” but that doesn’t mean that there aren’t highly objectionable and suspicious elements in them.

     Organizations like GroobLi try to find loopholes in the law, so that they can operate as close to the legal definition of a pyramid scheme as possible.

     Maybe I’m naive, but I don’t recommend everything that is legal and I don’t denounce everything that is illegal. While the United States has a an excellent legal system, law doesn’t cover all the nuances of justice, and right and wrong.

     If an MLM-based company’s operations and accounting are convoluted or sophisticated it could take a few years before authorities figure it out and identify any broken laws. A company can have a good standing with the law, and later be found to be operating illegally.

     I have found that most people who are proponents of MLM/Network Marketing and even critics really do not understand what they are talking about with it comes to these terms.

     What do you think it means?

     When a company is more interested in “recruits” (scare quotes because the “recruits” pay to work for the company), than in providing value, that’s a good sign that the product/service is not the main source of income.

     These days there are rules such as 70% of inventory issued to promoters must be purchased by real customers (or bought back) to avoid the classification of pyramid scheme; Have you seen the products offered by most MLMs? They are overpriced and in very low demand, usually because they are generic low quality items. Try selling overpriced juice or pheromone sprays without resorting to false health claims and see if you can sell 70%. The average full-time MLMer can’t. Most people will walk away without their investment, but quite a few will be pressured to buy their own product, or will be invited to expensive seminars, where some “high-level” promoter gives a motivational speech offering the latest of their nouveau riche exploits.

     So did the MLM company break the pyramid-scheme rules? Well, the promoter buys his own overpriced juice on a credit card to maintain his bronze membership eligibility, so the 70% rule is not strictly broken. And the MLM company never explicitly promises 5- or 6-figure salaries, but they do implicitly through coaching (tapes, etc.) and flashy seminars where they are led to believe that they are next in line for a promotion and obscene salaries if they work hard enough.

     So, technically, no rules are broken, but someone is being taken advantage of.

949. Comment by kees | June 13th, 2009

     I guess Droobli team “Edifient” didn’t get the memo that warns Droobli Business Associates to NOT present the earnings structure as a pyramid scheme:

     http://www.edifient.com/promotion_income.html

     

950. Comment by Dr. Beavis | June 13th, 2009

     Kees,

     You need to look at the distribution model from left to right; not top to bottom and definitely not right to left. As you will see it is one, big upward slope to riches.

     Dr. Beavis, King of Scots

951. Comment by kees | June 14th, 2009

     Ahhhh, is that the secret behind the pyramid scheme? Yep, sounds very reasonable, oh King of the Scots

     On a serious note, it seems not only the reverse auctions are going down in price. Now also Droobli Business Associates positions are being offered at lower prices…. by a Business Associate … apparently he needs some cash…. I wonder why…

     see:
     “GroobLi Gold Team Leader position with 1000 GroobLi credits that needs to be renewed in October is on…”
     at
     http://www.answerpatrol.com/questions.php?cat=Droobli

     But what really leaves a very bad taste in my mouth is seeing a group of kids being lured into (or being used for) the Droobli Business Associates scheme/promotions:

     http://wearethedrooblibrothers.com/

     Their parents(?) seem to think it’s okay however ….

     :-s

952. Comment by Troy Dooly | June 16th, 2009

     EagleScout,

     Sorry for the delay in responding, had to make some money.

     EagleScout: There are many “opportunities” that fall under the strict classification of “legal” but that doesn’t mean that there aren’t highly objectionable and suspicious elements in them.

     TroyDooly: I fully agree with you on this issue. However, we also see this in companies who do not pay their field force through commissions.

     EagleScout: Organizations like GroobLi try to find loopholes in the law, so that they can operate as close to the legal definition of a pyramid scheme as possible.

     TroyDooly: I agree 100%. This is one of the reasons we formed the Distributor Rights Association a few years ago. It’s also why I write about these companies. However, this does not mean all companies who use an MLM or Network Marketing compensation plan is evil or selling over priced products.

     To make a blanket statment like that is like saying all stock brokers run ponzi schemes, or that all real estate brokers are selling real estate scams, or that all mortgage companies are selling bogus mortgages. Although we have seen how each of these professions do have crooks, the majority are good folks.

     Besides all of the professions I just mentioned use multi-level compensation plans to pay their sales force.

     EagleScout: Maybe I’m naive, but I don’t recommend everything that is legal and I don’t denounce everything that is illegal. While the United States has a an excellent legal system, law doesn’t cover all the nuances of justice, and right and wrong.

     TroyDooly: We are on the same page!!!!

     EagleScout: If an MLM-based company’s operations and accounting are convoluted or sophisticated it could take a few years before authorities figure it out and identify any broken laws. A company can have a good standing with the law, and later be found to be operating illegally.

     TroyDooly: You do make a valid point. However, the operations and accounting is never the issue for taking years for the authorities to bring down a company. From what I have seen from studying years of cases, is that authorities go after the companies where they receive the most complaints. The sad thing in most cases the scam has been going on for so long hundreds if not thousands of people have already been financially hurt.

     EagleScout: I have found that most people who are proponents of MLM/Network Marketing and even critics really do not understand what they are talking about with it comes to these terms.

     What do you think it means?

     TroyDooly: MLM/Network Marketing are nothing more than compensation plans used to pay the sale force. There is no such thing as an MLM/Network Marketing industry. The Direct Selling profession does include several industries including Insurance, Real Estate, Housewares, Clothing, Skin Care, Cosmetics, Toys, books, Good, Coffee, Nutrition, and Legal Services.

     The specific definitions can be found in several published resources: The college text book “Direct Sales An Overview by Dr. Keith Laggos is the best resource, along with the FTC, SEC and the DSA.

     EagleScout: When a company is more interested in “recruits” (scare quotes because the “recruits” pay to work for the company), than in providing value, that’s a good sign that the product/service is not the main source of income.

     TroyDooly: I agree 100% and when you look at product driven companies over recruit driven companies, you do not find a pyramid shape, you find a diamond shape because they will have more customers, then sales reps. Some examples are INVISUS Direct, Tupperware, mary Kay, Avon, Discovery Toys, UsBorn Books, World Financial Group, Keller Williams Realty, Arbonne, Pampered Chef, XELR8, Prepaid Legal, and Primerica Financial Services.

     EagleScout: These days there are rules such as 70% of inventory issued to promoters must be purchased by real customers (or bought back) to avoid the classification of pyramid scheme; Have you seen the products offered by most MLMs? They are overpriced and in very low demand, usually because they are generic low quality items. Try selling overpriced juice or pheromone sprays without resorting to false health claims and see if you can sell 70%. The average full-time MLMer can’t. Most people will walk away without their investment, but quite a few will be pressured to buy their own product, or will be invited to expensive seminars, where some “high-level” promoter gives a motivational speech offering the latest of their nouveau riche exploits.

     TroyDooly: We are in full agreement, which is once again, why I fight to expose companies who run questionable business models, and why I am proud to have intelligent conversations like this one. It is these types of threads that give people more insight into the Direct Selling Profession.

     EagleScout, thank you for engaging me in this spirited conversation.

     Never Give Up,

     Troy

953. Comment by Beavis | June 16th, 2009

     “Diamond shaped”? I know I’m going to regret this, but what are you talking about?

     Oh, and Primerica Financial Services. Their tag line should be “the blind leading the stupid”. Nothing like having an idiot who cram coursed his or her way through a Series 6 test handling someones finances. Thankfully they are only allowed to handle packaged products. Nothing like a CITI quality financial operation.

954. Comment by Troy Dooly | June 17th, 2009

     Beavis,

     I think we have run this one up the flag pole just about all we can.

     Based on your statement above about PFS I can tell we’ll just into a spitting contest and I’m not here to change anyone’s opinion.

     As for the Diamond shape .vs Pyrimid shape, that has to do with the amount of customers per distributor.

     I’ll write an article on it at my site this week and if you want to read it you can.

     I do appreciate your view of things, cause it gives me a different view to ponder.

     Never Give Up,

     Troy

955. Comment by Beavis | June 17th, 2009

     I’m just treading water until another Drooblidiot decides to post. I think even the eternal optimist Gene has taken a powder.

956. Comment by eaglescout | June 19th, 2009

     Troy,

     I agree that all businesses are vulnerable to dishonest practices; although I think MLM is especially susceptible.

     I took a brief look at INVISUS Direct (didn’t have time to go over the rest in detail). It seems that they will protect your computer for a fee. Without ordering the product myself (which I don’t need) I can’t say too much about it.

     However, I see that INVISUS Direct will simply order your free credit reports for you and install anti-virus and anti-spyware software. There may be a tiny market for that, but most people I know can check their free annual credit reports on their own.

     As for INVISUS Direct’s computer protection, it seems that short of their anti-virus software (Sophos, which you could purchase separately) it’s cheaper (free) to use something like CCleaner and Lavasoft’s AdAware.

     INVISUS Direct’s benefit list reminds me of Cruise To Cash Benefits. The product benefits tend to be low-value items that are already free.

     It’s a little like selling individual napkins, straws, and ketchup packets outside a fast-food restaurant.

957. Comment by Charlie | June 19th, 2009

     Beavis did you just call the people who crammed for the series 6 license an idiot? Take a good look in the mirror Fuckface, I’ve missed this site, but since I’m not an obese shut-in like Beavis I’ve been busy surfing and golfing, to funny..

958. Comment by Beavis | June 21st, 2009

     CHARLIE! Have you ever played a game of chess with a sheep and if you did, who won?

959. Comment by Joe From Cocomoe | June 24th, 2009

     I have been reading the comment exchanges over this blog the past few months and have decided to talk on the subject of network marketing and Droobli. I do have an understanding of the profession so I would like to give my oppinion for what its worth. I have reasearched many MLM’s (including Droobli) and can say I do have a strong opinion of the Droobli model.

     Were going to change the industry! Let’s face it…..how many times have we heard that over the course of our lives? Right now many companies are taunting that they are going to change the game. Few of them will. They need to make that statement because the way they have been doing it isn’t working any longer.

     Some companies believe their products are so different that it will change the game. They are using the same distribution method of traditional network marketing (everyone becomes their own customer and teaches everyone to be their own customer) using a binary plan (which have proven over time to fail). Same game – new product story until the next new better vitamin, juice or nutritional super pill comes along.

     Other companies believe they have technology that will change the world with a new enhanced forced compensation plan. Technology that has not been proven going against multi-billion dollar players with a program you have to pay every month to get paid. It is OK everyone knows the majority of that money gets paid out to everybody else. That game has been around for a long time–nothing new. Others believe you can take products that have not done well, a compensation plan at best mediocre and put a big name in front of the company with a good story and that is going to change the game. Are you kidding? Sooner or later, the product has to stand out. Hold on in most MLM’s it doesn’t – the product doesn’t matter. We are all following the leader, who will eventually say thank you and move on. History has proven that.

     What all of these companies are saying is we can take the 1st, 2nd and 3rd base and we will make them round instead of square. Now it is not baseball, it is a better game than baseball. No, it is still baseball just with round bases instead of square.

     All of the companies I have researched are attempting to change the game using the same model (with a new twist) that is no longer working. Each of them still believe that everyone should be their own customer, everyone should be a distributor and everyone needs their products. As long as everyone in the downline just buys their $150 a month worth of products, everyone will make money. How has that been working so far?

     As much as they say they are changing the game, you are still trying to convince people to use your new improved super duper mega power whatever. That is the same game. That is the “baseball”. You change the shape of the bases any way you want, it is still “baseball”.

     Change is inevitable. You can either participate or watch it happen. Either way is OK but it will happen.

     From my reasearch I do not believe that Droobli will change the game either. I DO believe that Droobli is aware and sees the changes occurring and as we speak are positioning themselves to be at the forefront of those changes.

     Droobli understands like any other business (except network marketing models) they NEED CUSTOMERS not hundreds of thousand of associates. They also understand they need products that everyday people use and buy. Hence the shopping portal and from what I have seen some pretty attractive items on the auctions.

     Droobli does understand the revaluation of value that is occurring globally. If you look at what Droobli is doing they are combining the most powerful distribution channel (the internet) with the most powerful marketing (social networking) to capture what is already occurring with or without Droobli thus providing the people who chose to build a business with them a tremendous opportunity to be at the forefront of the next evolution of business not revolution. It will be revolutionary in network marketing because it has not been done before.

     Every business takes time to build, I know I have built 2 succesful traditional businesses in my lifetime. You can believe it or not, in my opinion, given time this is the model that will change the way people look at and partcipate in the networking industry.

     With this being said, I donot have the time or am I much for blogging so this is probably the last you will hear from me, however for what it’s worth I thought I would share some of the things and give you an oppinion on what I found out within the past few months on the model.

960. Comment by eaglescout | June 24th, 2009

     Joe, could you summarize your position? I’ve read your comment twice, and I can’t figure out what you are trying to say, or how it is relevant.

961. Comment by Beavis | June 24th, 2009

     Joe,

     So what you are telling me is this company, Droobli, which has been dog paddling in circles for years, is run by a bunch of visionaries who are game changers. Therefore, I should ignore their past failings, gross exaggerations, their offshore banking relations, their lack of financial disclosures and based on your little paragraph of Droobli evaluation that sounds like a Forrest Gump thesis on successful investing, I should should run up my Amex card and dive in. You should play chess with Charlie.

962. Comment by Beavis | June 24th, 2009

     I’m sorry, did I say “based on your little paragraph”? You obviously put a lot more effort into this than one paragraph of which I so humbly apologize. I do think this can be condensed into the following paragraph, though:

963. Comment by Joe From Cocomoe | June 25th, 2009

     I normally do not take the time to respond on sites like this, however Beavis and Eagle Scout (Butt Head I presume) NEED FEEDBACK on this to keep the site going.
     SO HERE IS MY STANCE AND THe “LITTLE PARAGRAPH” SO YOU BOTH CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING! Are you smarter than a 5th grader?
     Change is inevitable. You can either participate or watch it happen. Either way is OK but it will happen. I do not believe that GroobLi will change the game either. I DO believe that GroobLi is aware and sees the changes occurring and as we speak are positioning themselves to be at the forefront of those changes. GroobLi understands like any other business (except network marketing models) we need customers. GroobLi does understand the revaluation of value that is occurring globally. GroobLi is combining the most powerful distribution channel (the internet) with the most powerful marketing (social networking) to capture what is already occurring with or without GroobLi thus providing each of us a tremendous opportunity to be at the forefront of the next evolution of business not revolution. It will be revolutionary in network marketing because it has not been done before.

964. Comment by eaglescout | June 25th, 2009

     Hi Joe,

     GroobLi is combining the most powerful distribution channel (the internet) with the most powerful marketing (social networking)
     …
     It will be revolutionary in network marketing because it has not been done before.

     I disagree. Look up facebook, twitter, digg, youtube. An interesting difference is they don’t charge you $3000 upfront.

965. Comment by Beavis | June 25th, 2009

     Do you just make stuff up? What is Droobli doing to position itself to be “at the forefront of those changes”? The company is stagnant with no discernible game plan that will change its weak showing in the auction/shopping mall business it claims to be an “international” player in. I think you need another “launch” as your previous launches sucked. Droobli’s track record is laughable, it’s business plan is retarded and their product has low, low, low consumer acceptance. Droobli isn’t even aware that it is a failure.

     “Change is inevitable. You can either participate or watch it happen.” If it’s Droobli I’ll be $3,199 ahead if I just watch it happen.

966. Comment by O.Pining | June 29th, 2009

     OK, I’ve read all I can take. I’ve had a friend trying to get me to use his credits to check this out for a long time. I finally went to the video he provided to see what he was so excited about. All I had ever heard of Droobli were the great things he had to say about it. My first thought after viewing the demo… “I wonder what the US federal gaming laws will have to say?” When I asked him he got angry and said I needed to stop reading this site – I NEVER knew this was here until he told me.

     Guys, you can get angry because the things Eagle Scout is saying are running against your attempts at riches from your own franchise, but you cannot change the fact that this is a game. Yes, you might win some great prizes. But if you pay 80 cents for a credit that drops the price only 25, you are hoping a ton of others will click the button first. Hoping to get lucky. The same feeling drives folks to the casino. So I beieve that it will drive Droobli to success. It sounds like the franchise opportunity allows you to buy in to be part of “The House”. The house always wins you know. However, I think you may have problems with Internet gambling laws in the US. If there were stock to buy, I would not invest because of the risk of regulation ruining the business.

     My bottom line is this. I am seeking the right network marketing opportunity because I believe in it, and I do love the kind of folks who are serious about helping others. I don’t agree with Eagle Scout that it is purely a scam, or that you can’t make money – but that is because there are a ton of sick, poor people who are not intelligent enough to realize the math. You can see them lining up at the local convenient stores betting on lottery numbers with the money they should be buying diapers with. It is yet another way shrewd business folks with little moral character build a personal fortune on the backs of the poor, offering a “chance” at a steal.

     I cannot in good faith seek my own wealth that way. I will NOT be participating. To you Eagle Scout, I must say that I believe you are fighting a losing battle. Unless the US outlaws this site as an illegal gambling activity, it will go on. And it will be successful, but it will hurt the folks who can afford it the least.

967. Comment by Ray Le Blanc | June 30th, 2009

     Droobli is a scam. But the people who enter it know that. They are so consumed by their greed that they don’t care which family and friends they use by coercing them to join. Joining Droobli is social poison. No one will want to know you after you join because they know you will view everyone you meet as a potential Droobli member who can make money for you.

     Droobli is just another pyramid rip-off. Watch the papers for its collapse when people become better informed and quit.

     It’s a great investment for stupid, avaricious people. To all Droobli people – you will reap what you sow.

968. Comment by Only Facts | June 30th, 2009

     For Eagle Scout
     Droobli has just started here in Australia, and I have several people trying to get me involved, and this site has been very helpful. I am a facts person and do not want to hear about a friend of a friends success with this MLM. Your FACTS have been very helpful and easy to confirm. Could you please list 5 questions I can ask these people trying to get me involved that will not only help me, but them as well. After 966 comments my head is spinning. All I can get out of these people is company propaganda that can not be verified.

969. Comment by KnowYourFacts | July 1st, 2009

     Hi eaglescout. I just received an email from an unknown person inviting me to be his friend on Facebook. He stated in the email that he was making money on GroobLi and wanted to know what MLM I was involved in (I am an eBay PowerSeller). I immediately Googled GroobLi, found this site first, and am grateful to you for your unwavering logic, research and steadfastness. Thank you for making us aware of what this is. I will not be confirming this person on Facebook nor pursuing anything in this line as I have no interest in MLM’s or gambling. Wow, this was quite a read. Thanks for making it interesting, eaglescout. M.G.

970. Comment by Gene | July 5th, 2009

     More and more parrots coming on here all the time I see. They say just what you want them to say don’t they eagle? LOL

971. Comment by Beavis | July 6th, 2009

     Better than KoolAide drinking Drooblidiots. “Oh, I’m going to be rich by doing nothing. All that I have to do is give $3,199 to perfect strangers with offshore bank accounts and it will happen; it will happen; IT WILL HAPPEN!”. Just keep clicking your ruby slippers together, there Gene (what a maroon).

972. Comment by Only Facts | July 6th, 2009

     Open question.
     I am still trying to find as much, non propaganda either way, information as possible. When I Asked a Droobli member why I cant find any reference to them in an Australian Newspaper, the answer I received was “we are only at pre-launch the press will come in October then it will be massive like it was in the states”. Being that Droobli started in Germany and was so successful I tried the Berliner Zeitung (Berlin newspaper). No matches. I then tried USA Today, no matches. Los Angles Times, no matches, Delaware online/Wilmington News, no matches. Has there ever been legitimate press on Droobli and if so where can I find it.

973. Comment by Derek Freeborn | July 7th, 2009

     Droobli is the latest MLM scam with a new twist -you gamble to buy auction items!!!! How exciting !!

     Those poor suckers who have joined must hate this site. Droobli needs more and more people to be conned into joining so some money filters through the system. But once the current affairs shows get wind of this latest scam then the house of cards will collapse.

     No one wants to pay 80 cents every time they make a bid. E bay is free to bid with a million more products! That’s all that needs to be said. Game over Droobli.

     Droobli can only work if enough greedy morons can be found. joining Droobli isn’t “building a business”. It’s simply entering another ponzi-like scam. Only a Bernie Madoff could pull this one off.

974. Comment by Gene | July 7th, 2009

     Beav or is it Eagle you got to be the biggest parrot.

975. Comment by Beavis | July 7th, 2009

     I have a 10 inch parrot; I can’t speak for Eagle.

976. Comment by Beavis | July 7th, 2009

     “Only a Bernie Madoff could pull this one off.”

     Bernie Madoff wouldn’t waste his time with this two bit operation. I’m in awe of Madoff; 50 f*cking BILLION dollars compared to Droobli’s pathetic auction numbers. I mean, he is still a criminal but he is a genius. He bilked Wall Street; Droobli bilked Gene.

977. Comment by Gene | July 8th, 2009

     Beav you got a mouth on ya don’t ya?

978. Comment by Big Scam | July 8th, 2009

     This company is a joke. There is no viral growth. Nothing but a blatant pyramid scam that jumps from one country to the next proclaiming its “success”

979. Comment by mal | July 9th, 2009

     Just like MLM Droobli is unlikely to be for everyone, MLM is a recognised and important form of product distribution. It seems to work best when kept simple so that we peasants can understand how it works and where the money comes from. I certainly get suspicious if the plan is not easily explained. Droobli goes to great lengths to show all of the quirky parts of the plan so anyone who gets in (blind) is naive and or perhaps foolish. On the other hand when you study the Droobli plan you will find that there are a few good reasons to be suspicious. The plan has to be read or listened to a few times before all of the income streams and expenses can be taken on board and how many of us would be bothered doing that. Most of us are too lazy/ comfortable in our poverty. I am not a Droobli member but I have been promoted the plan by a close friend and even if I dont sign up I dont think it will affect my relationship with him. We each need to respect and appreciate each others needs and ambitions and let those that want to do it get on with it and make some serious cash, if they can. The risk is not that great but if you cant afford to sign up and buy your credits then ask your sponsor (or his sponsor) for a loan, which you could pay back from your profits. This should be a win/win especially if he can help you make it work. You might be able to pay it back in a month or 2 if you do what is taught. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

980. Comment by Fern Magee | July 9th, 2009

     Droobli is a SCAM. When are you going to understand that, Mal, Gene et al? No one logs onto a Droobli site to buy things. The only poor suckers who are “bidding” are the BA people who dream of money for nothing. But like all pyramid schemes the only money in the scheme comes from those who think Droobli will make them millionaires.

     Real people don’t want reverse auctions. The only people participating are Business Associates. It gives the illusion that people are really going for this reverse auctions thing. They aren’t. Ask your friends. Explain reverse auctions to them and ask if they would ever buy anything that way. Real people just think you’re stupid.

     Listen everyone. I don’t want a Rolex watch for even $5 if it means hundreds or thousands of people lost money every time they “checked” the price. I have a conscience. I don’t want to win a luxury item cheaply at the expense of others.

     It’s unethical. For Droobli to succeed you have to rely on the fact that no one has a conscience. I do. My friends do and we will have no part of a scheme that rips off people so that some may win luxury goods they don’t really want for cheap prices.

     I don’t want any of that crap Droobli is offering. Who does? It’s all so sad and pathetic what people will do for a dollar. Don’t you think?

981. Comment by Gene | July 9th, 2009

     Beav it’s not money for nothing. It’s money for something. Don’t you see we have an online store front. We sell a lot of things. Didn’t you ever hear of a merchant? Parrots same old ploy that it’s a pyramid. Real people enjoy reverse auctions. Have you tried any. Boy this over generalization is rift here.
     I mean how smart do you have to be to understand for 80 cents you get the chance to save hundreds of dollars depending on what the item is. I’ve been over this before here. If you’re not interest in our luxury goods then don’t buy in the auctions simple as that. Dah. In the shop you can buy just about anything online. Plus you get reward points which you can use on future purchases or money on a debit card. Check out my website and go to a webinar. Stupid ideas. Get it straight man. Using words like pathetic and conscience and illusion. Sounds like you’re talking about a messed up magic show. Just goes to show that the scamapedia idiots are just that. I can assure you the company isn’t. It is a well thought out business plan which is making people a lot of money. Check this out maybe it will help, MLM: Who’s Getting Rich—Who’s Not http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRVGzFw0ygU if Eagle let’s it go through.

982. Comment by Mr Reed | July 9th, 2009

     O.K I have been reading these blogs for a while now trying to look at both sides of the argument. The first thing I always ask myself is why is a person writing whatever it is that they are writing. Are they giving a review or are they trying to destroy or sway a person one way.

     I must say I feel this blog is trying to sway potential GROOBLI CUSTOMERS AND REPS into thinking Droobli is a scam. AND FOLKS GROOBLI IS NOT A SCAM. And I will EXPLAIN WHY

     1. I do agree droobli does have an element of gambling but not in a negative way. If I pay .80 cents to see what the price of an item is, first off that is my choice to pay to see the price and I know exactly what I am doing when I do it. But more importantly the price of the item is always lower or equal to what I was going to pay retail anyways.

     2. Droobli has over 900 merchants with brands like bestbuy, macy,s, and Target. People think about it, if Droobli was a SCAM like you say it is How would all of these popular companies allow them to be on there site and sell there products. And why have thousands of items been purchased and delieved everytime ontime. We cant even say that about ebay!

     3. Lastly, the thing that bothers me the most about this blog is I feel you are missing the point about Droobli. Droobli is a site that allows everyone to shop for FREE get cash back on all purchases in the online shopping mall and also get HUGE savings on the auctions. I have to ask you WHY would you have a problem with people saving money?

     Do you have a problem with some guy with with fat pockets coming in at the last minute and out bididding a person on ebay. Is that a scam. Or people using programs to win on ebay auctions is that a scam too.

     At least you have the ability to buy an item when the price is right with Droobli.

     *THE REAL SPIN REPORT*

     With that being said, I feel you are the scam for trying to sway a person into believing somthing is a scam for your own personal gain for example.

     Why do you have google adsense ads on your site. People do you know if you click on any ads on this site the writer of this blog gets paid. Hmmm. If you wanted to help people not get ripped off why not just post the blog and give you opinion. Why make money off of people who may be trying look into an opportunity for themselves?

     WOW, it looks like you get popular companies and feed off of the traffic to make money on your blog. HMMM? I must say that smart, but is what you are doing a scam?

     Lets just say everyting is a scam and I know people will hear about a company and google it. And when they get to my site they will click on stuff. Oh and I will get paid for that. Wow! Use your brain people the writer of this blog is the scam. Lets see what the world thinks?

983. Comment by Gene | July 9th, 2009

     “Use your brain people the writer of this blog is the scam.”

     That’s what I’ve been showing all along.
     Are you making any money Eagle? Just try to avoid using the company name that would be a good idea. keywords you know

984. Comment by Gene | July 9th, 2009

     Now eagle if you were on a real mission you report on this one.
     http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/459/RipOff0459186.htm

985. Comment by Gene | July 9th, 2009

     For your convenience here’s the website https://secure.buylowauctions.com/index.php?/p/1.html

986. Comment by Only Facts | July 9th, 2009

     Mr Reed
     In response to your #982 comment.This is information that I have been able to obtain relatively easy by picking up a phone and or email, or research.

     1. Would you walk into your local shop and pay 80 cents to find the price on something? Oh course not. If you could look at the price of an item for free and then pay 80 cents to bid, I would be fine with that.

     2. Droobli has 900 merchants? Where does this information come from? If you refer to an on line shopping Mall, to my knowledge Droobli is a third party in this and the chances are these retailers are unaware that they are involved with Droobli. In fact I know this for certain. I have personally contact Walmart, Apple, BMW and Gucci. All state they have no association with Droobli at all.

     3. How can you say that people shop with Droobli for free? That is simply untrue.

     As far as this site is concerned, I don’t give a toss whether Eagle makes money out of it or not. All I know is it cost me nothing.

     And for Gene. You mention parrots a lot. I think people repeat themselves and others simply because they receive no answers, ,like myself

     In the end it is up to the individual to do the right amount of research. Unfortunately some peoples research consists of listening to Droobli BA full stop. Remember people if it quacks like a duck………

987. Comment by Gene | July 9th, 2009

     Hey Joe Friday,

     1. If you don’t want to spend 80 cents then don’t do it.
     2.That is because they don’t have to have an association with, oh I won’t put in a keyword for you eagle, the company. You can just check out my site.
     3. It doesn’t cost anything to shop in the mall. Credits are only used with the auctions. So go ahead and register and shop. When you buy you get reward points. It will catch on more.

     Hey Only Facts did you notice Eagle is advertising the company? Take a look second from the top on the right. So we do have a viable company if not our good buddy eagle wouldn’t have it up there now would he? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA isn’t it something?
     4. If Joe comes around duck.

988. Comment by Only Facts | July 9th, 2009

     Thank you Gene

     1. But this is the major sell point for the product. Why would I join and not shop?

     2. I agree they don’t need to have an association. However Droobli, through their BA, have stated and continue to state here that they do. However never in writing. Only through BA. Reason being this gives Droobli plausible deniability. This is what happened in the beginning in Germany, USA and now Australia.

     3. As mentioned Droobli is a third party in the mall and only receives click points. Without looking into the operator I cannot say anymore about the mall except unless you are in Canada, Mexico, Puerto Rico or the US you cant use it.

     The chances are Gene that 2nd right is rubbish as well. I am talking about Droobli and want information on Droobli. Answer to questions that nobody whats to touch. For example if Droobli WORLD CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS is in Willmington why is there no phone number in the Willmington phone book?

     4. Im sorry it may be a cultural thing but I have no idea what the reference to Joe Friday means.

989. Comment by Gene | July 9th, 2009

     Joe was a character on a tv show in the sixties called Drag Net. He was a police officer and he was only interested in the facts. He would say Just the facts ma’am. Where you from anyway?

     If you shop you get products. Right?
     What’s the big deal? I’ve shopped and got products. You can shop for free. You claimed you can’t.

     Look on the top of this page. Now the company is listed
     on this blog in the number one position where it should be. Any how
     eagle talks out of both sides of his mouth. All for profit. By causing conflict
     to get attention. Hey you have my name what’s wrong with putting you name on
     here for the record?
     There ya go parrot working for eagle and using the company name. Are you in
     business with him or is this eagle himself here? This is just stupid. You like your key words don’t you? Why not try to convey your thoughts without them? Is it too much work?

990. Comment by Gene | July 9th, 2009

     What I like about the company is that it is a real business.
     It’s not something where you get this email a mile and a half long that you have to read and you still don’t know what it is until you pay not 5,000 dollars for but for 39.95. I am sure you’ve seen those too.

     People! Just go to my site and get into a real business that sells real products and if you like try the au*ctions and see if you can find a savings. I am still giving out ten free cre*dits to those who register with me. You’ll have to go to the second page to sign up for the cre*dits This is still ground floor and we still need more associates. It’s taking time to build but build with us and grow with us. Don’t worry about this site or blog or scamapedia freaks.

991. Comment by Gene | July 9th, 2009

     Oh, better go to this site for the cre*dits.

992. Comment by Gene | July 9th, 2009

     Check out my blog!

993. Comment by Fern Magee | July 9th, 2009

     Gene’s an idiot. He doesn’t care who he hurts to get his money. Good luck to amoral people like Gene. On the judgement day they are going to need all the help they can get.

994. Comment by Paul Enfield | July 9th, 2009

     Gene wants to profit off other people’s checking of the prices for 80 cents a time. What a creep. Anyone involved with Droobli is a loser. They may make a few dollars before the company collapses. Gene would you like a to make a wager about the outcome of Droobli?

     It won’t last. It’s moronic. Smoke and mirrors. All for just 80 cents time. What a bargain???!!!

995. Comment by Beavis | July 9th, 2009

     “It’s not something where you get this email a mile and a half long that you have to read and you still don’t know what it is until you pay not 5,000 dollars for but for 39.95.”

     Um, I think 39.95 is better than getting butt raped by Droobli for $3,199, Gene. Then, again, to each his own. Oh, Gene, when is your renewal due? Is it time to pony up again? Remember not to tense up; I hear it makes it hurt more.

996. Comment by Only Facts | July 9th, 2009

     Gene
     As I have said time and time again RESEARCH. I have stated in 2 of my 3 now 4 comments I am from Australia. I appreciate your offer of credits but I can not use them here as yet.

     As far as my name Gene you can call me Peter, Paul or Mary if you wish. I don’t want to date you I simply wish for someone to answer my questions.

     I have no association with Eagle, and in fact Im upset he never responded to my first comment. To be honest I have looked at his other Forums and disagree with him on most.

     As far as looking at Droobli blogs, I am after information that I can verify. If you have facts I can verify I would appreciate you listing them here, or simply answer the questions I have already asked.

997. Comment by Gene | July 9th, 2009

     Oh yes idiot and amoral loser hurting people creep, tell Bill Gates that or Ford
     and beav come on 39.00 forever and nothing to show for it. The Cre*dits you get paid for and you make a little on them. Wow.
     You all better think about judgement day with all your false accusations. yes I will have to pony up again. You want to sell products online and make a living at it? This is the best way to do it. If you don’t want to then don’t simple as that.
     What a bunch of parrots. LOL LOL LOL

998. Comment by Balloonaki | July 9th, 2009

     Guys, you need to get out more. Seriously. Who gives a shit? As an adult, you can either do shit, or not do shit. But pissing all over each other on a… jeez.

     For myself, GroobLi seems like bullshit as a BA, but when it comes to shopping, sure why not?

     Still, get a fucking life. It’s healthy to see the sun once in a while!

999. Comment by Michael K. Smith | July 10th, 2009

     Mr Reed is another prize idiot. All you guys care about is money. Droobli can’t work because there aren’t enough poor fools to join as BAs thinking they’re going to make a million dollars, only to discover that only BAs are bidding on anything. No one really wants reverse auctions. No one wants something that people have lost money trying to get. Only unethical people who love only money would feel comfortable with that. Hey Gene why don’t you sell your mother? Maybe you’d get a few buck for her?

1000. Comment by Kyle Davis | July 10th, 2009

      Gene are you really “laughing out loud”? Just sitting there at your computer “laughing out loud” like a big old giggly girl?

      Tell the truth you didn’t really “laugh out loud”? We know you didn’t. And if you’d lie so easily, perhaps you’re lying about Droobli and all the millions you’re making?

1001. Comment by Borg Svenson | July 10th, 2009

      Dear Mr Reed,

      I want to answer your points.

      You said:

      1. I do agree droobli does have an element of gambling but not in a negative way. If I pay .80 cents to see what the price of an item is, first off that is my choice to pay to see the price and I know exactly what I am doing when I do it. But more importantly the price of the item is always lower or equal to what I was going to pay retail anyways.

      Why should people be charged to look at prices? Is that even legal? Go into a store that you can only see the prices if you pay a fee? I wonder why no store does it? Also, Droobli can easily manipulate bids and prices.

      2. Droobli has over 900 merchants with brands like bestbuy, macy,s, and Target. People think about it, if Droobli was a SCAM like you say it is How would all of these popular companies allow them to be on there site and sell there products. And why have thousands of items been purchased and delieved everytime ontime. We cant even say that about ebay!

      Droobli doesn’t “have” those companies. Droobli is a tin pot company. It doesn’t have anything. It buys products off of real companies and pretends those companies endorse it. If most of them knew they’d sue.

      3. Lastly, the thing that bothers me the most about this blog is I feel you are missing the point about Droobli. Droobli is a site that allows everyone to shop for FREE get cash back on all purchases in the online shopping mall and also get HUGE savings on the auctions. I have to ask you WHY would you have a problem with people saving money?

      People don’t save money. The money is spent by others checking prices. If people want something they should save up for it not just rely on 1 in 100 000 luck to get something. That’s gambling, not shopping.

      About ebay you said:

      Do you have a problem with some guy with with fat pockets coming in at the last minute and out bididding a person on ebay. Is that a scam. Or people using programs to win on ebay auctions is that a scam too.

      Ebay is not a scam becuase you aren’t charged to look at prices. Also, there is no scheme for different levels and you don’t have to pay anything to join.

      It’s just an auction house on a huge scale. Droobli isn’t in the same league. It’s laughable to mention e bay and a two bit operation like Droobli in the same sentence.

      Droobli is a scam. E bay is just people selling stuff. You don’t have to buy. You don’t have to “go gold” or “be presidential”. Or go to “diamond level” or any of that stupid pyramid selling crap.

1002. Comment by Gene | July 10th, 2009

      Hey let’s all try to destroy this scam called Droobli.

      Go onto their website. Write down the names of all the companies that have products there. Then write letters to those companies saying you’ll never buy any of their products again because of their association with the droobli scum people.

      Great idea?

      Here’s another. Write to any media you know – current affairs programs, newspapers etc. Alert them to the fact that Droobli is a scam and can they do an article about it.

      Let’s shake these losers up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1003. Comment by Gene | July 10th, 2009

      I guess you all work for a pay check. Nothing wrong with that. You’re just not business people. It takes all kinds you know that make the world go round. LOL Can I laugh is that OK Kyle? Don’t be lying now! Shake me up Gene.
      But if you want to buy online why not do it to your own benefit. We do have the rewards program in the shop. Sure you can have a shop but if you can’t get anyone to it what’s the use. Thus the auctions to bring customers. If you wait till it’s all over the media then it may be too late as far as the business builders go.

1004. Comment by Gene | July 10th, 2009

      Reed or is it beav you are full of it!
      “… doesn’t “have” those companies. ****** is a tin pot company. It doesn’t have anything. It buys products off of real companies and pretends those companies endorse it. If most of them knew they’d sue.”

      Does a grocery store grow all it’s own produce? What ignorant reasoning.

      Wow some third world thinking here.

1005. Comment by Mr Reed | July 10th, 2009

      In Reponse to Mr Borg Svenson

      First off I appreciate you responding to my post and I respect your opinion. But I will atempt to clarify and explain my case with facts.

      Borg Svenson comment:
      Why should people be charged to look at prices? Is that even legal? Go into a store that you can only see the prices if you pay a fee? I wonder why no store does it? Also, Droobli can easily manipulate bids and prices.

      My Response:
      People are charged to look at prices because it is a reverse auction site. People are also charged to sell items on ebay. paypal charges to collect your own money. The point is you have a choice to bid or not to bid. If you dont like it then simply don’t do it. I will agree that any company manipulate prices because we don’t know what happens on the back end, similar to how there are Ebay programs that can manipulate the auctions. My point is its your choice and WE LIVE IN A FREE MARKET

      Borg Svenson comment:
      Droobli doesn’t “have” those companies. Droobli is a tin pot company. It doesn’t have anything. It buys products off of real companies and pretends those companies endorse it. If most of them knew they’d sue.

      My Comment:
      First off show me facts! When I go into the shopping mall at Droobli and I buy somthing at Bestbuy, I am purchasing from best buy I am on the bestbuy site I get all the bestbuy discouts and I get cash back for those purchases. I do all of this for free a customer.

      How can you say if these companies knew they would sue? Sue for what, buying somthing from there own site.

      Borg Svenson comment:
      People don’t save money. The money is spent by others checking prices. If people want something they should save up for it not just rely on 1 in 100 000 luck to get something. That’s gambling, not shopping

      My Comment:
      What you just stated is not factual. I have personally saved on several items. When I buy something for $50 thats worth $100 that is saving right? It’s luck if I bid and dont have the choice to buy. Its NOT luck if I bid and then click a button and buy the item. Believe me If I bid on an item and dont buy it and someone else does buy it, i’m a big boy, I know I am on a reverse auction site THAT IS MY CHOICE.

      Borg Svenson comment:
      Ebay is not a scam becuase you aren’t charged to look at prices. Also, there is no scheme for different levels and you don’t have to pay anything to join.

      My comment:
      Ebay is not a scam I’m not saying they are. But you do have to pay a fee when you sell your own item on the site. And people have been known to drive up there own prices and not send the item. This does not make ebay a scam it just makes those people bad.

      Although there may be differnet levels to make more money with droobli this is no different from you having a person getting items at a lower wholesale price to sell on ebay. The difference is I cant get that deal with the wholesaler whereas it is open to everyone to get the same pay structure with droobli and its NOT based on the what I do or who I know.

      Lastly:
      I noticed that you didnt comment on the fact that the writer of this blog makes money from the google adsense ads. Everytime anyone just clicks on the ad you get paid. Why make money in your quest to save the world from droobli saving people money. Why not just state your opinion without the money making aspect of the site.

      With that being said I hope you get the point and I do see what some of you are saying. All I can say I save on the site. I like the reverse auction format and I think people should give it a try.

1006. Comment by Gene | July 10th, 2009

      Hey Borg (really it’s most likely beav) why shouldn’t people be charged to look at a price?
      That’s how it works. ah hah If you are not interested then don’t do it. That it what it costs for each bid on the au*ctions. So what? It’s 80 cents to see a price go down. If you want to buy it fine. If not fine. We provide a way to try it for nothing. This seems to be ignored. Do you have a problem with that Borg?
      I don’t see what some of these people are saying most of the are beav or eagle anyhow. Well I’ll have to take a break for a while. Thanks for your interest in my site!

1007. Comment by Gene | July 10th, 2009

      Yeah eagle take out my id number sure. You like to edit. Now that is cheating!

1008. Comment by Micah Kudrow | July 10th, 2009

      Hi Gene. So you are making millions from Droobli. Big deal. Where is the money coming from? In companies that sell stuff where do their profits come from? From a mark up on all their costs.

      Droobli money is dirty money. It comes from the gamble people take just to buy stuff on the so-called auctions. In trying to buy something people on the auctions a certain number of people have to lose money “checking the price” (sounds stupid when you type it out, doesn’t it.)

      I am happy that the people losing money in the Droobli auctions are all those jerky BAs who want to get rich quick.

      One BA told me he made $3000 a month. But then he told me he spent more than that propping up the silly auction system. He sai “I’m losing money but one day it will take off. I have to spend a lot to help the auction system look real”.

      Anyone involved with Droobli has no conscience. They want to make money fast from the losses of others.

1009. Comment by Larry Elms | July 10th, 2009

      Hey Gene! How about this for an idea. Why don’t you go to Ebay and suggest they charge 80 cents for people to check prices !!!! Why don’t you do that???? It’s such a magic business idea for Droobli!!! Why not share it with E bay?????

      It’s all too laughable. Droobli is the new Titanic. Hope you can swim !!!!

      HAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!

1010. Comment by eaglescout | July 10th, 2009

      To Only Facts,

      Could you please list 5 questions I can ask these people trying to get me involved that will not only help me, but them as well.

      I can’t give you a magic bullet. When people have already spent a sizable part of their income to join an MLM (or any business venture or investement for that matter) they find it very hard to write-off the loss, so they continue investing in it.

      Here are some questions and the reasoning behind them.

      If I know others cannot or will not be able to make money with this product/opportunity, do I still feel comfortable selling it?

      It’s true that very few people will come out on top if they get lucky or work very hard. Are you willing to take $3000 (or whatever the amount may be) from the 99% of people who can’t use your product?

      Do you have any hard verifiable statistics that show how much promoters (not one, but all) are making from this business opportunity?

      MLMs are widely known for advertising with personal anecdotes: One or two people who made 10,000 in a month. It’s plausible (sometimes even probable), but more importantly, where are the anecdotes of the 500 (or 5000) other promoters?

      Do the people behind this business have a good track record according to verifiable sources?

      Often times, an MLM tries to establish a level of reputation or trust by praising the company management on the website. This is usually unecessary if the company has had any form of real exposure through the press.

      If the ‘business opportunity’ is bundled with the product in any way, am I really interested in paying for both the product and the ‘business opportunity’?

      If you just want to eat a scoop of ice cream, why would a company force you to buy 300 scoops of ice cream and sign you up as a promoter?

      If I am geniunely interested in the product, what are the chances (probability) that I will pay a fair price for it?

      Is the price unusually high for this kind of product? If the price is fair, do you have to risk money that doesn’t go toward the actual purchase?

      Do I own the product once I’ve purchased it? Must I maintain a relationship to the company in order to sell the products I already own?

      This last bit is quite sophisticated with GroobLi. You can’t mark-up the price of the credits, and you can’t use them to gamble/bid for products or recruit others if GroobLi ceases to exist. You never really own part of the business, because you depend 100% on GroobLi’s welfare in order to sell the products/licenses.

      Are the upfront costs of the business opportunity reasonable?

      Are you better off starting your own MLM given the price of getting sponsored? If so, what exactly are the MLM owners creating in terms of value? If replicating their business model is easy, then there’s very little value. If it’s hard to replicate because it requires unethical actions, then the value is that they performed the unethical actions for you (deception, misrepresentation). Is that something you want to invest in?

1011. Comment by Beavis | July 10th, 2009

      “Hey Borg (really it’s most likely beav)”
      “Reed or is it beav you are full of it!”

      I post under “Beavis”, fool.

1012. Comment by eaglescout | July 10th, 2009

      To Reed,

      O.K I have been reading these blogs for a while now trying to look at both sides of the argument. The first thing I always ask myself is why is a person writing whatever it is that they are writing.

      That’s always good.

      Are they giving a review or are they trying to destroy or sway a person one way.

      It could be all of the above and more.

      …
      1. I do agree droobli does have an element of gambling but not in a negative way. If I pay .80 cents to see what the price of an item is, first off that is my choice to pay to see the price and I know exactly what I am doing when I do it.

      I agree up to this point.

      But more importantly the price of the item is always lower or equal to what I was going to pay retail anyways.

      That’s not the case. Game #1 “Express auction” items may cost more than retail, and often times they have to in order for GroobLi to make a profit; in at least one situation GroobLi has posted incorrect specifications, intentionally or by mistake, which resulted in an item being bought for much more than retail price. In game #3, there’s no limit to how much you can spend.

      2. Droobli has over 900 merchants with brands like bestbuy, macy,s, and Target. People think about it, if Droobli was a SCAM like you say it is How would all of these popular companies allow them to be on there site and sell there products.

      For one, there’s little they can do about it. I can sell you jsut about any physical good I want as long as I fully own it.

      Second, scam.com gets more visitors a day than GroobLi. I don’t expect popular companies to have heard of scam.com, so why would I expect them to have heard of GroobLi?

      And why have thousands of items been purchased and delieved everytime ontime. We cant even say that about ebay!

      Do you have the statistics for GroobLi?

      3. Lastly, the thing that bothers me the most about this blog is I feel you are missing the point about Droobli. Droobli is a site that allows everyone to shop for FREE get cash back on all purchases in the online shopping mall and also get HUGE savings on the auctions. I have to ask you WHY would you have a problem with people saving money?

      I don’t have a problem with people saving money. I just don’t think they will save much money with GroobLi. GroobLi sold at least one macbook in the “express auction” which included blatantly incorrect specifications. This means the macbook was sold way over the typical market value even though the price had been discounted by GroobLi gamblers.

      Do you have a problem with some guy with with fat pockets coming in at the last minute and out bididding a person on ebay. Is that a scam. Or people using programs to win on ebay auctions is that a scam too.

      As mentioned by Borg Svenson, you don’t lose money if someone outbids you. About people using programs to win on ebay; yes that can be unfair, but ebay opted to make things more fair by allowing people to use ebay’s built-in automatic bidding. I’m not interested in defending ebay though. If ebay has problems of its own, that doesn’t justify GroobLi’s.

      At least you have the ability to buy an item when the price is right with Droobli.

      As I’ve mentioned before, the “express auction” can be a good deal for the “bidder”, not so much for GroobLi (GroobLi can lose money if they don’t mark up the starting price on express auction items), which is not good for business associates.

      *THE REAL SPIN REPORT*

      With that being said, I feel you are the scam for trying to sway a person into believing somthing is a scam for your own personal gain for example.

      Why do you have google adsense ads on your site. People do you know if you click on any ads on this site the writer of this blog gets paid. Hmmm. If you wanted to help people not get ripped off why not just post the blog and give you opinion. Why make money off of people who may be trying look into an opportunity for themselves?

      I put a lot of time into research, and I think I offer value. We’ve tried to make sponsored ads unintrusive. Additionally. I don’t recall stating that I simply wanted to help people, it just so happens that some people have found my research helpful. I enjoy doing research and if I can benefit from it at insignificant cost to readers, why not?

      WOW, it looks like you get popular companies and feed off of the traffic to make money on your blog. HMMM? I must say that smart, but is what you are doing a scam?

      As long the information is factual and expected to be so, no, not really. I’m not really targeting popular companies exclusively; I don’t think of GroobLi as popular. My prefered modus operandi, if you must know, is to find valuable information before anyone else does; I don’t want to just repeat what everyone else says.

      Lets just say everyting is a scam and I know people will hear about a company and google it. And when they get to my site they will click on stuff. Oh and I will get paid for that. Wow! Use your brain people the writer of this blog is the scam. Lets see what the world thinks?

      That wouldn’t be all that great of an idea. It’s frustrating and embarassing when I make a bad call, so I’d rather point out verifiable facts.

1013. Comment by Paulie K. | July 11th, 2009

      Gene you’re a great businessman in your own mind. You’ve never produced anything. You haven’t used your money for good and you’ve been involved in several MLM schemes where the majority of people lose money.

      It must feel good being such a horrible person as to make good at others expense. Why don’t you just do the world a favor and take your massive ego and totally immoral, unethical character and just leave good people you meet alone.

      I pity your so-called friends and family members who have to have the king of pyramid selling at their table. I bet people run when they see you coming. I pity your poor wife who has to live with your selfish, egotistical character 24 seven. She must be screaming to get out.

      Your kids wouldn’t want to know you. You’re such a bore. You are never coming to my dinner parties trying to sign up every kind person you meet to one of your pathetic schemes.

1014. Comment by Paulie K. | July 11th, 2009

      I feel so bad that I wrote that stuff about Gene but then I think of the poor people he has conned into his schemes.

1015. Comment by Bruce McGrath | July 11th, 2009

      Eaglescout is right in what he says in Post Number 1010. He says it beautifully so all can understand. I wish everyone thinking of signing up to the “miraculous opportunity” that is Droobli could read that.

      Everyone please understand that the people who have already joined Droobli must support it. They will lose money faster if they can’t get new idiots to take the bait and join.

      I wish they would have a conscience and warn others about Droobli. But they won’t. Droobli people must keep the spin going until Droobli finally draws its last breath probably sometime in 2011. That way people will enter and add money so that they can get a piece of it.

      It’s a pyramid scheme which is illegal in most Western countries. We need government investigation of Droobli and where the money goes.

1016. Comment by mal | July 11th, 2009

      When you buy a newspaper or, for example auto trader magazine, the publisher takes money from the sellers AND the advertisers AND the publication purchasers to make the publication viable. In fact no one needs to buy the mag to make it viable except for the numbers game where advertisers and advertisers wont use it if no one is thought to buy it. There is also a publication called Trade and Exchange,(and I am sure there are others) where you advertise for free and people buy the magazine to see what is for sale this week. Businesses selling stuff pay but individuals dont. I have spent many dollars just to look. Sometimes I actually find something that I need or just want. I am a shopper. Then I have to go and pick it up or pay to get it delivered just like any other shopping experience. It is a way of life.. a fact of life. If Drooblis suppliers prove to be reliable then it is all good, to my mind. Lighten up have some fun.

1017. Comment by mal | July 11th, 2009

      One other thing. I hate the fact that manufacturers often sell the same product, whether in a jar, can or bottle, with a different label on it, for a different price. People are not informed that it is the same product in the bottle but are happy to pay extra for a poular brand. The brand owner profits unfairly due to the consumers ignorance. Ethics of business should be questioned at every level. Amazon was funded by wealthy people until it started making a profit. This took years. The lesson the Droobli has realised is that if the funds are injected by like minded business people and, sure, a few people are sucked in with no intention to “do” the business, then many people can share a small burden for a calculated risk, and a few elite individuals need not be zillions of dollars in debt. The faith that investors had in Amazon, that it would work, is a lesson in human endurance and trust.
      Sorry, I am waffling but enjoying the debate. It is not just about Droobli it is about human nature and life. Lets all sign off and get on with ours.

1018. Comment by Bruce McGrath | July 11th, 2009

      Mal – just admit it. You’re a Droobli BA and you hate the bad press Droobli gets because it will damage your business. You’re not a “businessman”. Maybe the thought of being a businessman makes you pee your pants. But you’re not one. You’re a pathetic loser who tries to get others to join the Droobli con.

1019. Comment by Arno Pazzani - Italy | July 11th, 2009

      Droobli is just a con. Someone spoke about getting something for $50 which cost $100. But how many other auctions has that person participated in? Maybe they have spent $500 bidding with their credits. They have spent $550 to get something worth $100.

      With Droobli some people will get a discount on items they never wanted in the first place. They just happen to get credits with their BA “starter kits”. Some people will lose everything they put in and never get one of the crummy products.

      Why don’t you just save for what you really want and buy. That $100 thing will cost only $100. Unlike with Droobli most people will pay more than $100 to buy a $100 item. (I say more than $100 because that’s what will happen when all the checking of prices gets added up over time.)

      Where are the Droobli millionaires? Love to hear from you pack of liars!!!

1020. Comment by me | July 11th, 2009

      Don’t Read this message!

      OK… I confess!

      The reason I don’t want you to read this message is because I just placed 7 unique bids on the $25,000 killer New Harley Davidson in our unique Auction

      There are only a few days left!!

      All my bids were less than 20% of the value of the bike.
      Half of the bids were less than 1500 bucks!
      A couple were less than 600!

      If I am the Lowest Unique Bidder I will win the Bike for that price!

      The Little Sneaky Red Guy to the left side of my shoulder says “keep it a secret you might win”

      The Little Kind Truthful Guy to the right side of my shoulder told me not to listen to the Little Sneaky Red Guy!

      What a dilemma…

      Who are you going to listen to?
      Place a couple of bids and keep it to yourself…or tell everyone you know and blow it for all of us?

      Check it out at:
      http://www.GlobalAuctionNow.com

      Ask me for your free credits…if you are cheap like me…LOL

      PS: If you miss the Bike…there are always many more cool things.

      PSS: Why would GroobLi have merchant agreements with everyone on the planet if they were a scam?

      PSSS: The Auction’s start at the lowest price on the internet and then go down….guaranteed People pay to get a lower price in Costo all the time! But there is no chance that it will be half off or more! If you don’t see what you want on there go to the 20+ million items in the Mall and get a killer deal on whatever you want.

      PSSSS: Don’t miss the boat! Grab huge market share now…JOIN A GOOD TEAM that will help you make some real money, If you want in on the fastest growing team on the biz I can help you out. If you are Not serious, call someone else, they will help you I am sure! GroobLi’s plan is to give people all around the world excitement and value… which is what they are all about. If I wasted my time reading this stuff for weeks I would not have a huge slice of the pie already. All of the people who are being misinformed in here deserve the truth…Which is the only reason I am posting this.

      GlobalAuctionNow@gmail.com

      See you at the top…

1021. Comment by Beavis | July 11th, 2009

      “The Little Sneaky Red Guy to the left side of my shoulder says “keep it a secret you might win”

      The Little Kind Truthful Guy to the right side of my shoulder told me not to listen to the Little Sneaky Red Guy!”

      Do they have a Unique Bid Auction for psychiatric care?

1022. Comment by Only Facts | July 11th, 2009

      Thanks Eagle for your reply.

      I fully agree with the comment made by someone on “enjoying the debate”. Originally I wanted information on Droobli so I could make an informed decision on joining or not. It didnt take long to decide not. Now Im enjoying the debate. However Im not enjoying the personal attacks on several people. I dont believe it is helpful.

      For others who are thinking of joining I put forward the following information.
      1. Despite claims to the contrary no other legitimate company, except for the shopping mall will acknowledge an association with Droobli. Not Walmart, not apple, and not Harley Davidson.

      2. No legitimate press has ever covered Droobli in any country. A bit strange for the company that will rival Ebay.

      3. There is no Droobli in any shape or form in the Willmington phone book.

      4. No claims made by Droobli can be independently verified.

      5. Droobli will never be on any stock exchange, due to the regulation that listed companies must be transparent. It is easier to find information on Scientology or the Costra Nostra than Droobli.

      6. When you invest in a company you invest in the people running it. Many of those involved in the management of Duli have dubious backgrounds.

      7. Droobli uses the pre-launch push as a devise to gain investors. This is where the majority of profits come from. The promise of great returns if you “get in early”. Reason being is that once the auction site begins things start to become clear, and it is more difficult to find interested investors.

      I ask for everyone reading this to be doubtful of my suggestions. Please research it your self. If after that you find my suggestions inaccurate please let me know. Not by Droobli spin but by checkable facts.

      There is an old saying that, “you cant argue with a person who bases their entire argument on faith”. This is what I believe Droobli is. A faith driven opputunity for a few to make money off the many.You may not loose money on this, but your friends and family will. Reputation is everything. If you are willing to put your reputation on the line, then go for it.

1023. Comment by Arno Pazzani - Italy | July 11th, 2009

      Only Facts is amazing. He’s presented very clear arguments. So why would people get involved with Droobli? It’s the same reason people buy lottery tickets. Some people will make money from Droobli. The vast majority will lose money. Money which is transferred over to the few “successful” ones.

      However, are you really successful if you make money at the expense of others?

1024. Comment by Arno Pazzani - Italy | July 11th, 2009

      Did you read the corny post from some loser called “me”. It follows:

      “Don’t Read this message!

      OK… I confess!

      The reason I don’t want you to read this message is because I just placed 7 unique bids on the $25,000 killer New Harley Davidson in our unique Auction

      There are only a few days left!!

      All my bids were less than 20% of the value of the bike.
      Half of the bids were less than 1500 bucks!
      A couple were less than 600!

      If I am the Lowest Unique Bidder I will win the Bike for that price!

      The Little Sneaky Red Guy to the left side of my shoulder says “keep it a secret you might win”

      The Little Kind Truthful Guy to the right side of my shoulder told me not to listen to the Little Sneaky Red Guy!

      What a dilemma…”

      I, Arno, say what a loser! This is his best case scenario – he’s placed 7 bids on a Harley!!! How much did that cost??? How much has he spent on “checking prices” at minus 80 cents each time?????

      The best he can come up with is that he may get a Harley cheaply!!!! Big deal !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Right there is Droobli. He presents what he thinks is exciting news. The only excitement is if he can convince others to join the Droobli con so that he gets back some of his money back.

      We must destroy the poison known as Droobli. It’s a scam.

1025. Comment by Gene | July 11th, 2009

      Now look. This is a very good idea. And once you’re ready to buy something that costs $100.00 just simply use your savings and go to the auctions
      find that item, bid 80 cents and get it for half the price.
      What a terrrrrrific idea. Then (a future time when you can save money) you can still save 50 bucks. Except of course for the cost of shipping. Now boys and girls does that make any sense? Oh but we are sooooo evil. Because we spent money to opperate a biz such as this. NO I am sorry. I still think it’s a great plan and all the name calling won’t change it.
      It will fly.

1026. Comment by Derek Freeborn | July 11th, 2009

      But it’s not so simple as the lying Gene says. You don’t just check a price once for 80 cents and find the $100 item is now $50. That may happen but what about all the other times? You check and check and then someone gets the item before you. And then you check on another item and someone else gets it.

      It has been estimated that the average group of Droobli bidders pay at least double the price for every item because of the constant checking. If a $10 000 item sells for $5000 how much have the Droobli bidders paid?

      They have paid 20 000 X 80 cents (that’s what it takes to reduce the price by $5000 (at 25 cents reduction for each 80 cents “invested”)) plus the $5000 some lucky person pays.

      So the group of Droobli people pay $21 000 for a $10 000 item. And you wondered why the guys who started Droobli are rich???

      Of course some money is paid back to “Business Associates” (another term for total losers and idiots. However, the money always filters upwards. And far from the claim that Droobli is an opportunity to buy things cheaply, it is just the old pyramid game.

      Gene, how do you sleep at night trying to suck people into your little shell game called Droobli? You are evil. You will end up ruining people with your clever sales pitch. But you don’t care do you?

      I’d love to meet you in person. We could talk all this out.

1027. Comment by Mark North | July 12th, 2009

      This is from Gene on March 7th. He is trying to explain Droobli which makes no sense whatsoever.

      “Also if as seen in Germany one customer typically invites five and they invite five and so on with this viral action. I mean look at it. This little blog won’t stop it.”

      I love his use of the word invites. He’s just described a pyramid scheme and that is illegal in many countries. Gene you have no more friends to “invite”. They’ve heard your get rich quick ideas before.

      Basically you’re a user and social poison. No one wants to know you.

1028. Comment by Molly | July 12th, 2009

      Gene is incredible. He won’t give up his use of “we” when he talks about Droobli. The little boy Gene wants to be a big businessman so his mother will be proud. But he ended up pushing pyramid schemes. Poor guy.

      Droobli is a con and a scam and will fail.

      Please don’t get involved with it.

1029. Comment by Gene | July 12th, 2009

      Well Derek Mark Molly it’s just an online store. Please.
      It’s a good idea isn’t it? Why so adamantly against it? Of course this is how this blogger makes his money. People you just have to overlook all their postulations understanding it’s just for sake of generating controversy and you can’t take them seriously. I am probably working too hard for this guy myself here. But I guess I am incredible. And Derek what would happen if you met me in person? Would you become a customer? It won’t cost you anything. I might even give you some free cre*dits. How’s that for a nice guy?
      You still can buy anything you want in the shop without using a cre*dit. So again. What’s the big deal? Now if you do decide to be an associate and you to acquire customers you can make click through revenue once the search engine up up and running. Even if no purchases are made. If they’re just window shopping and click on an item. Kind of like this blog tries to get you to do. Not bad.
      This company is innovative. And there is more to come. Parrots.

1030. Comment by Beavis | July 12th, 2009

      Gene is the Energizer Bunny of Stupidity.

1031. Comment by Gene | July 12th, 2009

      And what does that make you beav? Would you even have
      a brain.

1032. Comment by Gene | July 12th, 2009

      Yup Leave it to beav!

1033. Comment by Kite Potaro | July 13th, 2009

      I have looked at these posts. I think Droobli is a scam. The only people to get rich will be the owners. Most BAs will lose their money. They will be tempted to buy more and more credits to make the auctions look popular. But the whole thing will collapse I’m afraid. The “system” is just too complicated.

      People can discounts at stores anyway. Most of the Droobli stuff is just crap no one wants.

      I must say I agree with Molly. Gene is one of those uncomplicated guys who’s always trying to prove himself. He would be a real jerk in real life. I feel sorry for him.

1034. Comment by Only Facts | July 13th, 2009

      For those who havent disovered this for themselves.

      The Droobli web site states their Global corporate headquarters is located at 702 West St Wilmington. Google that address and you will find no mention of Droobli. Tenants range from Imlix and associated companies, Medical, Realty and Florist.

      Their Logistics headquarters is stated to be located at Trolley Square suite 20c Wilmington. The office belongs to INC Plan USA which is a registered agent service.

      It appears Droobli has no physical presence anywhere.

1035. Comment by Beavis | July 13th, 2009

      “It appears Droobli has no physical presence anywhere.”

      I’m sure it has a physical bank account in some banking haven.

      Let’s ask Gene; hey Gene, do you know where your money is right now (credits don’t count)?

1036. Comment by me | July 13th, 2009

      Ok,
      Let me help you guys out a little…

      First of all…become a customer for free.
      go to http://www.GlobalAuctionNow.com

      Then look at the auctions and see if you like any of the “most searched for items on the internet”. If you see something you like… buy a few credits and the worst case scenario is you will get it for the “Lowest Guaranteed Price On The Internet”…no brainer!

      Chances are it will be much less, and create some excitement in your life….good thing.

      If you do not like paying a fee to get the lowest price then stay out of Costco.

      Need some more?…click on the Shopping tab.
      Buy 60% of local restaurant coupons at your favorite restaurant. $100… for 40 bucks, and so-on. Oh by the way… you will get 20% of what you have spent on that certificate loaded to your debit card because you are a valued customer.

      Then take a glance at the 300,000 item discount catalogue.
      grab whatever you want at average 25% discounts…brand new, warrented, no knock offs. If that was not enough lets now put 6.5% of what you spent onto that card you will love at the end of the month…. when you need an extra tank of gas!

      OK…well we better look at the 1000 stores with rewards on over 20 million items. I can go directly to them or go to them through the GroobLi site, and save even more money.

      Dental, Prescription savings at about 50%… how about letting people print out coupons all day long on their computer for free?

      But wait a minute…you mean to tell me there is a “tell the friend button” where I can ALWAYS get free credits by telling all of my friends where they can get the Funnest, Best savings on the Net?
      How about the single mom who figures that out…and ends up with some free credits… gets an X-Box for her sons birthday for half off…brand spanking new? She will love that button will she not along with all of the rest of us?

      Sorry guys but GroobLi is here to stay, and we are all in for a big surprise…the business model is amazing! You just do knot know what it is

      People in the unemployment line can even see the value! Get ready because the customer phase is now going to start….sit back and watch it, joke about it, complain about it, or pretend it did not even happen… but Millions of people will love it, and that is the only reason I am involved.

      Oh…and the little sneaky red guy?
      Well he does not know I got those credits by referring customers…He lost because NOW everyone knows the Good News!

      Someone who reads this will see through all of this baloney…

      If you have been posting the negative stuff…there is hope for you as well.

      Thanks for hanging in there Gene

1037. Comment by Beavis | July 13th, 2009

      no

1038. Comment by Beavis | July 13th, 2009

      See you can’t even give the tokens away.

1039. Comment by Gene | July 13th, 2009

      Well well beav. How about giving me a token of your appreciation? He tells ya like it is. Where did the name come from. Does it mean, mean?

1040. Comment by Only Facts | July 13th, 2009

      To “Me & Gene” Quick note

      Dosen’t anything I say here make you guys stop and think, even for a minute. I mean I don’t expect you to change your mind entirely, but surely all these things should make you question things. Which is what my goal is.

1041. Comment by 'Bobo' Burnley | July 14th, 2009

      Dear “me”,

      Your little explanation sounds like a desperate man trying to con stupid people. You act like Droobli is some opportunity to shop. There are already tons of stores online. We can buy direct. Forget about Droobli with its fees and silly ‘reverse auctions’. Just buy what you want directly from the suppliers.

      Why take chances on the ‘reverse auctions’? If you’re the only one ‘checking prices’, then you end up paying much more for things.

      you said “become a customer for free” like it was some great new idea !!!!! Everywhere else we do shop for free.

      you said “Then look at the auctions and see if you like any of the “most searched for items on the internet”. It sounds like Droobli is the most searched site on the Internet. It’s not. It’s a cheap scam.

      You said “If you see something you like… buy a few credits and the worst case scenario is you will get it for the “Lowest Guaranteed Price On The Internet”…no brainer!”

      No brainer is right. You have no brain. The worst case scenario you liar is you use your credits and get nothing. Stop all the lying and exaggeration.

      You said “Chances are it will be much less, and create some excitement in your life….good thing.” Some excitement? Are you a total loser? You call the remote chance of saving dollars “exciting”? Get a life moron. Also if i get something cheaply means a whole lot of people have to spend their crappy little credits so that I can. I don’t like getting things cheaply that others have paid for. I’ll pay fair price and not rip off others.

      You said “If you do not like paying a fee to get the lowest price then stay out of Costco.” At least with Costco you get the good at their low prices. It’s not a lottery. Droobli is gambling.

      You said “Need some more?…click on the Shopping tab.
      Buy 60% of local restaurant coupons at your favorite restaurant. $100… for 40 bucks, and so-on. Oh by the way… you will get 20% of what you have spent on that certificate loaded to your debit card because you are a valued customer.” Who wants restaurant vouchers? That’s tacky. Do you use them?

      “Then take a glance at the 300,000 item discount catalogue.
      grab whatever you want at average 25% discounts…brand new, warrented, no knock offs. If that was not enough lets now put 6.5% of what you spent onto that card you will love at the end of the month…. when you need an extra tank of gas!” What a loser. Just buy what you want. Forget little Droobli schemes and percentages. No normaL person wants to shop like this. Don’t you guys get it???? People have busy lives. They don’t want all these crappy details that Droobli requires to shop with them. We just want to go to a store when we need something. We don’t want crappy credits and minus 25 cents every time we check a price at 80 cents a time and joining fees and gold plans and all that crap. Just give it up.

      You said “Dental, Prescription savings at about 50%… how about letting people print out coupons all day long on their computer for free?” Who wants to print out crappy dental vouchers? You guys are idiots. No one cares for this Droobli shopping stuff. It is so long winded. It’s just stupid. A stupid attempt to hide the real money trail.

      You said “But wait a minute…you mean to tell me there is a “tell the friend button” where I can ALWAYS get free credits by telling all of my friends where they can get the Funnest, Best savings on the Net?” MLM people don’t have friends. Don’t you understand that. You guys are poison. No one wants to hear about your complicated Droobli shopping, gambling system. Leave people alone!

      You said “How about the single mom who figures that out…and ends up with some free credits… gets an X-Box for her sons birthday for half off…brand spanking new? She will love that button will she not along with all of the rest of us?” You terrible exploitative people. Perhaps she’ll use here credits. Buy more. Get hooked and win nothing. Well done Droobli. Ripping off people who caN’T afford it. You have no conscience.

      You said “Sorry guys but GroobLi is here to stay, and we are all in for a big surprise…the business model is amazing! You just do knot know what it is” It’s amazing that greedy, pathetic people like you with no conscience will just keep lying to people.

      You said “People in the unemployment line can even see the value! Get ready because the customer phase is now going to start….sit back and watch it, joke about it, complain about it, or pretend it did not even happen… but Millions of people will love it, and that is the only reason I am involved.” That’s not going to happen. I personally will bet you all the money you have plus your house that that will not happen. Put your money where your mouth is. Let’s talk about a legal wager through my lawyer? Are you ready to talk the real talk.

1042. Comment by Chip | July 14th, 2009

      Be careful, be very careful! I thought I was, but I lost and out went a lot of dough. All these people who try and ‘explain’ and guide you to their email address, are usually very persistant sales people and will hook you before you know it! Pyramid schemes are the ‘old way to lose money and online lotteries is the new way! And 15 of my old friends don’t really talk to me anymore, as they lost money too! Be careful, be very careful! Droobli will fall like those before them and leave loads of people hurt or upset and definately ‘poorer’. Buy reputably and cheap from known operators. Do a google search and check Droobli out, don’t be a true believer and lose friends, because you’ll be a loner and a loser!

1043. Comment by me | July 14th, 2009

      Sorry…”Only Facts”.
      I don’t have enough time in the day to read up on 1000 posts.
      I am busy building my business….

      But this may help:

      The Business Model

      Most people look at droobli.com and think it’s an auction site, in business to sell auction items to customers. This is not really the case. GroobLi’s auctions are a strategic “means to an end”, and only a small part of the revenue model. GroobLi.com is an early stage shopping portal that aggregates shoppers on its website, and then sells those shoppers to major search engines and online merchants for click-through fees and revenue-share fees. Aggregating and selling online shoppers is an established, multi-billion-dollar industry, led by companies like Google, Amazon and eBay. GroobLi is already a player in this industry with its largest customer for ecommerce services being Kelkoo, which is the Yahoo!-owned search engine in Europe. GroobLi charges Kelkoo whenever GroobLi shoppers click through to Kelkoo or purchase products from Kelkoo affiliated merchants.

      The most successful shopping portals have “hooks” to draw traffic to their site. Google’s hook is search; Amazon’s has always been books; eBay’s is auctions. GroobLi’s hook is reverse auctions and shopping games (entertainment shopping). GroobLi uses reverse auctions and games to drive traffic to droobli.com. In an eBay auction, the seller is charged the auction fee. In a GroobLi auction, the bidder is charged the fee with each bid, in the form of a GroobLi “credit” that costs 80¢. This auction fee covers GroobLi’s cost of acquiring the customer and running the auctions and games, and it also covers the cost of reducing the auction price of the product by 25¢ with each bid, which makes the auctions exciting and drives traffic. In exchange for the 80¢ fee, the customer gets access to discounted prices at droobli.com, in the same way that a Costco member gets access to discounted prices at Costco stores in exchange for the membership fee. The GroobLi customer also gets “entertainment” value in watching the price drop, which is critical to the viral growth of the customer base.

      GroobLi’s strategic focus is on expanding its customer base, because the value of any shopping portal business is directly related to the size of its customer base. GroobLi uses a traditional network marketing distribution model to launch its initial customer base in new markets, both because GroobLi’s founder has had successful experience in network marketing, and because a network model can create large, loyal, initial customer bases faster and cheaper than advertising-based models. What GroobLi gets with its network marketing model is initial customers fast and cheap (without having to raise millions of dollars for each new market launch); what GroobLi gives up is a cut of its revenue stream, paid out in commissions to its Business Associates for the life of their customers.

      GroobLi’s Business Associates are paid commission to create new customer bases and to sponsor new Business Associates (who, in turn, create more new customer bases). Commissions are paid to Associates whenever their registered customers buy credits to participate in droobli.com auctions or whenever their customers generate click-through or revenue-share fees by clicking through to GroobLi’s search engine partner. In order to create a new customer base, Business Associates buy GroobLi credits in bulk (called “Product Packages”), and then give away the credits to prospective customers to get them to visit the site and try out the auctions. When a new Business Associate buys a Product Package, commission is paid to the recruiting Business Associate, just as if a customer had bought the credits (and that is how Business Associates earn commission from recruiting new Business Associates).

      Here are the negative comments that are posted on the Internet (in italics), followed by the facts, along with some answers to frequently asked questions:
      1. “GroobLi is a de facto pyramid scheme because . . . 97% of its revenue comes from [the sale of Product Packages].” Actually, the percentage of revenue coming from Product Packages is probably higher than that in the U.S. right now; but that just makes it a product launch strategy, not a pyramid scheme. The majority of revenue in any new GroobLi market will always come from the sale of Product Packages until the Business Associates have created a base of customers who generate ecommerce revenue (click-throughs, revenue-shares, and credit sales). When that happens, it will signal the end of the launch period for that market and the beginning of the early stage growth period. There is nothing about selling credits to Business Associates to launch new markets that constitutes a pyramid.
      2. “If [my] updated estimates are correct, GroobLi has made between $8,500 and $12,000 on the 3 games in 1 month . . . How can GroobLi sustain itself?” It can’t sustain itself on auction revenue, and no one has ever claimed that it would. The objective of GroobLi’s auction unit is not to sell product. It is instead to drive traffic to the portal, while selling as many credits as possible (and ironically, while selling as few items as possible). GroobLi is a shopping portal, not an auction house. Its success is measured by the number of shoppers it aggregates and sells. The amount of auction revenue generated is irrelevant and has no bearing on GroobLi’s success or sustainability.
      3. “GroobLi is a pyramid scheme because it sells nothing of value.” Not true, and Yahoo! and its affiliated merchants who pay GroobLi each month for its click-through shoppers agree (along with all of the registered GroobLi customers who buy credits each month and participate in the auctions). There is no question that businesses and customers alike find GroobLi’s products and services valuable and are willing to pay for them month after month. This false comment is nothing more than a “cry pyramid” attempt to drive traffic, and it comes with zero substantiation (because there is none).
      4. “GroobLi is a Ponzi scheme because it uses new investor dollars to pay returns to earlier investors.” Can’t be true. GroobLi does not sell licenses, or investments or securities of any type, and it does not offer “returns” of any sort. It only sells products and services of value, and pays commission to its Business Associates on what is sold. By definition, therefore, it cannot be a Ponzi scheme.
      5. “GroobLi’s founder, Mike Jensen, has bankrupted four companies.” Not true, and the information posted to allegedly “substantiate” this claim is taken completely out of context. Early in his career, Mike Jensen was a restaurant entrepreneur who co-founded several companies in Denmark. Long after he sold his interest and resigned from management, the subsequent owners and management teams of three of those companies bankrupted them (which is not at all uncommon in the restaurant industry). Although the Danish public records will always show Mr. Jensen linked to those companies as a founder (which is the out-of-context information prominently posted by one site), Mr. Jensen had no involvement in the subsequent management or bankruptcy of those companies. It is true that GroobLi’s original corporate entity, GroobLi Danmark ApS, was voluntarily liquidated and dissolved when the company acquired a German company and moved its headquarters from Denmark to Germany. Here again, the information posted is presented out-of-context of being an orderly and proper wind up of a corporate entity that was no longer being used. A later post on the same site (by someone not affiliated with the site) provides a list of dates and events that corroborates everything stated here. The site acknowledges the new information and does not dispute its veracity, but continues to leave the out-of-context information displayed as the lead items under the heading of “GroobLi Fact Repository” (so that it will continue to create controversy and drive traffic, which makes them money).
      6. “GroobLi isn’t even registered in the United States.” Incorrect. A simple search reveals that GroobLi.com is a registered LLC in the state of Delaware, and GroobLi’s U.S. distribution warehouse is located in Phoenix, AZ. The site that posted this ridiculous claim subsequently retracted it.
      7. “GroobLi doesn’t even register when you compare traffic analysis.” That’s true, but the claim is made out-of-context because the analysis comes from public web metrics companies (like Google or Alexa) who don’t measure traffic that comes through “personal home pages.” Most GroobLi customers visit droobli.com via a Business Associate’s individual website link (i.e., droobli.com/xxxxxxx). By their own admission, most web metrics companies do not count what they classify as “personal home pages,” which are treated separately if they can be automatically identified as such from the URLs in question, which is the case with any Business Associate’s droobli.com/xxxxxxx link.
      8. “GroobLi is a gambling business.” Not true, and the U.S. States’ Attorney offices seem to agree. None have elected to take any action or even object to GroobLi’s auctions as “gambling enterprises” or “lotteries.” The people who post negative comments about GroobLi in order to drive traffic to their own site can “say” that it’s gambling, but the legal authorities who are responsible for enforcing gambling laws in each state do not agree.
      9. “You must send an email to the support team . . .otherwise you miss your chance to get paid. They promise you’ll get commissions, and technically you’ve earned them, but at the last minute (when it should be obvious that you shouldn’t have to do anything to claim the money that is owed to you) they tell you that you didn’t follow the obviously non-standard procedure.” This is just another comment made completely out-of-context in an attempt to “cry scam” and create controversy. The procedure mentioned is not “obviously non-standard” as claimed; it is instead the standard procedure for getting payments wire transferred, as posted on the Associates’ back office website. Business Associates must confirm each month (with a simple email to Support) whether or not they want their earned commissions to be wire transferred into their bank accounts on “payday” (which is the 15th of each month). This policy is in place for the benefit of the Associates, because many Associates prefer to let their accounts build to a certain level before paying the wire transfer fees charged by the banks. It is not true that if an Associate fails to notify Support, they “miss [their] chance to get paid.” They only miss the chance to get paid on that particular day. They need only to notify Support to get payment issued immediately. Also, GroobLi has never cut commissions, delayed commissions or failed to make commission payments as one anonymous poster claimed. All bank transfers to the U.S. are transcontinental and may take one or two days longer than expected, but this is entirely controlled by bank policy, not by GroobLi. And they now have a new “E-Wallet” in place anyway.
      10. GroobLi is a private company at this time, and as is customary for a private company, it does not publish its financial reports for the general public.
      11. The listing of GroobLi shares on any public stock exchange will occur only when the Board of Directors determines that the market is favorable for such an offering.
      12. The interview with Dean Mannheimer dated August 2008 contained no misinformation or inaccuracies.
      13. GroobLi has no connection to Andy Bodowin or TNI, and any innuendo to that effect is false. The writer who likes to name these two in his posts about GroobLi has denied that he is implying any connection . . . but he continues to name them.
      14. GroobLi uses Fedex, UPS and DHL, and has never overcharged for shipping. The comments posted to the contrary (most of which have been retracted) are fabrications and can be easily verified as such by checking any of the above carriers’ price lists.
      15. GroobLi customers are never overcharged for products that are purchased or won on the auctions. The comments posted about “paying double at the checkout” stem from the poster’s lack of understanding of how the auctions work. This comment was subsequently withdrawn by the poster, who admitted that he was wrong. As a matter of fact we have a “Low Price Guarantee”
      16. There are numerous erroneous comments posted about the cost of Product Packages to Business Associates, most of which have been subsequently retracted (but most of which remain posted on the site). The errors range from simple math inaccuracies to a complete lack of understanding of what is being charged and to whom.
      Bottom line, GroobLi is a complex business that combines a customer-focused shopping portal with a network marketing distribution model. That combination gives Business Associates the rare opportunity to earn an ongoing cut of the revenue stream in an emerging Internet company, a benefit that is normally available only to equity holders and venture investors.

      As for comments posted on the Internet about GroobLi, please consider the source (and the source’s underlying motivation) before you attribute any credibility to the comment. Also, if you read something not covered here that appears to raise a red flag, please ask about it . . . you’ll find that, most often, it “just ain’t so.”

      Hope this helps…

1044. Comment by me | July 14th, 2009

      “Bobo”

      Again…the reverse auction, which is the “Xpress Auction” has no “chance”…you buy at the lowest price on the internet…period….and usually much less. You always have a “buy now button” when you look at the price.

      The worst case scenario is that you get it at the guaranteed lowest price….that is a no brainer.

      Any time someone saves money in the Mall (which has a reward not found by going directly to the store itself)…after saving the percentage…it always makes sense to take one of those dollars saved, and see if I can get it for an additional savings on the reverse auctions if the item happens to be there. Or simply take one of those dollars saved and get something they could not normally afford.

      spend more…or have fun spending less.

1045. Comment by eaglescout | July 14th, 2009

      To “me”:

      Please avoid posting entire articles, especially if you didn’t write them yourself.

1046. Comment by Beavis | July 14th, 2009

      ditto

1047. Comment by Graine | July 14th, 2009

      Thanks for the great article. I got an email from an old acquaintance from years ago out of the blue. (friend of a friend who was at the time an Amway distributor and briefly got us into that mess). I responded thinking it was nice to hear from him and promptly got a GroobLi invite.

      DOH!

      I should have guessed.

      I immediately googled for more info and I’m not surprised to see all the comments here and on other forums by the ‘tru believers’. I saw it all in Amway, the talking points rammed into your head. Anyone negative cut out of your life. If you haven’t made a fortune of your own, you aren’t allowed to have an opinion (unless of course, the opinion echoes the aforementioned talking points that have been rammed into your head).

      The whole thing brings a bad taste to my mouth. It would be nice if an old acquaintance just wanted to know how we were doing without an ulterior motive.

1048. Comment by Gene | July 14th, 2009

      I got an eamil from a friend of a friend sure beav. Parrrrrrrrrots!!!!!! Stop eating dirty crackers and the con rubish here. We’ve got a great plan to make a good living for those smart enough to see it. Why not take me off of your snooping there eagle. You have to know what I say so you moderate my every key stroke. Any way it sounds good lol.
      Amway is still with us too isn’t it?

1049. Comment by eaglescout | July 14th, 2009

      Gene, I’m not moderating your comments or your links at all. I’d rather see you make money off GroobLi than the other way around, so I have no reason to remove your affiliate id from your links.

      You either made a mistake, or you are lying. The only other alternative is that your comment was processed as spam; but that wouldn’t explain the missing affiliate id.

1050. Comment by Gene | July 14th, 2009

      Well I am not lying. I clicked on my link which was directed to my auction site and when I clicked on register which I do from time to time to see the number, there was no affiliate number. Not at all. So it occured to me somehow that number was removed. If you didn’t do it my apologies.

1051. Comment by Gene | July 14th, 2009

      I must be tired.

1052. Comment by 'Bobo' Burnley | July 15th, 2009

      Gene, give up your life of get rich quick schemes. You’ll be happier than living the way you do – the lying, the tricking, the conning. Salvage some pride and just get out of these pyramid schemes. Be a man. Your wife will respect you more. Your neighbors will begin talking to you again. You don’t have to live this way. Get a real job and start contributing to society.

1053. Comment by Bo Harrison | July 15th, 2009

      These Droobli guys are real creeps. They think they have this perfect system. They are so deluded. No one else thinks Droobli is a good idea. Only those who are business associates think it makes sense. All those silly credits and paying for checking prices. These guys are morons. No normal person on the entire planet thinks Droobli makes sense. Only BAs create any traffic. The idea is dead. The creators got their money long ago.

      When I shop (and the other 99% of humans)we just want to pay a fair price for things we want. We don’t want to pay cheap prices because some poor souls gambled with credits and lost all their money. That bothers me.

      But it never bothers greed %$%^$@!$ like Gene etc. Those guys aren’t human. They are just pure evil with what they are trying to do.

1054. Comment by Beavis | July 15th, 2009

      baaaaaah, Gene, baaaaaaaaaah

1055. Comment by Gene | July 15th, 2009

      Hey bobo I am not rich yet. And what am I lying about? You don’t think I am a man? My wife doesn’t respect me you thinks?
      You have a house for me to build? Kind of slow now.
      Bo how do you know I am a creep? Have you tried the system? Do you speak from experience? It might be dead in your head and from the way you guys talk it’s not surprising. It’s soooo inhuman to have an online store. Smiles a while!!!!
      You parrots are real disgusting just rattling off nonesense.
      Meaningless attacks against honest people. Beav chomp chomp chomp. Beavis means mean right?

1056. Comment by Only Facts | July 15th, 2009

      Me.
      Thanks for your comment 1043.
      However you didn’t actually answer my question. You did how ever make me think of a few things. Firstly, what are the names of the “Charities” Droobli donates to?

      Secondly, what is meant by “low price guarenttee”? Presently two items on the auction site are 1. Nokia E75 starting price US$419.99. On the shopbot.com site I can but one from US$417.27. So in theory If I log onto the droobli auction site and and buy that item at the starting price, I am not getting the lowest possible price.

      2. Harley Davidson 2009 FLHX Street starting price US$25,000.00. With the little information Droobli supplied, I match the bike through Power Sports Network for US$15,958.59.

      Either I’m totally wrong, or this dosn’t add up.

      I am curious what research you and Gene did before agreeing to financially commit to Droobli, can you, and or Gene supply details?

1057. Comment by Beavis | July 15th, 2009

      I love it when the Drooblidiots talk about their “calculated risk” like they are sophisticated businessmen when the company doesn’t release any hard figures for one to calculate with.

      I called the March of Dimes about the so called ‘relationship” they have with Droobli. It was truly a WTF moment for them.

1058. Comment by A Good Gene Gone Bad | July 16th, 2009

      Gene, I said you weren’t a man because you try to trick people into stupid pyramid schemes, or MLM or whatever you want to call it. You have no conscience. Your greed has blinded you to the fact that Droobli is a scheme where a lot of people have to lose to help a few make money. Bernie Maddoff had the same idea.

      Unfortunately your personality is obvious to all. You think of yourself as a kind of “upbeat guy”. “Friendly” and “A bit of a thinker”. But you’re not. You’re a jerk. Tell us about your high school years. The lonely years. You can’t buy a new personality. But you can try to be a better person. Please try by forgetting about Droobli. It’s nonsense. Get over it. Droobli will collapse one day. Get out now and you’ll only lose the money for your “bronze level” or “Business Associate” level or whatever corny name they call it. That only cost you a few hundred. Listen, I have plenty of money. If you leave Droobli I’ll give you whatever you have outlayed. Good deal? Much better than you’ll get at Droobli.

      Also I can work with you to improve you. Your wife will be happier and pay off in the bedroom. And you won’t have to pay any money just to check the price. Ha Ha. I hope we’re both laughing as friends now.

1059. Comment by Howard Elliot | July 16th, 2009

      Hey Beavis, Only Facts, Bobo, Eaglescout etc.

      What chance do you think there is for Droobli to become bigger than ebay as the drooblidiots claim? I did the silly “Google Battle” with the two terms. Ebay got 455 million hits and Droobli got less than 300, 000. So Droobli isn’t there yet.

1060. Comment by Chip | July 16th, 2009

      I love the testimonials on the Droobli site. They’re hilarious. It’s like a big achievment to actually buy something with Droobli.

      Ebay doesn’t have testimonials. Doesn’t need to. $60 000 000 000 worth of transactions per year. Droobli is just stupid.

1061. Comment by Beavis | July 16th, 2009

      “What chance do you think there is for Droobli to become bigger than ebay as the drooblidiots claim?”

      Best summed up by this quote, just substitute Droobli for a whelk (a small snail):

      “… then we don’t stand a whelk’s chance in a supernova.”

      “A what?” said Arthur sharply again. He had been following the conversation doggedly up to this point, and was keen not to lose the thread now.

      “A whelk’s chance in a supernova,” repeated Ford without losing momentum. “The …”

      “What’s a whelk got to do with a supernova?” said Arthur.

      “It doesn’t,” said Ford levelly, “stand a chance in one.”

      Douglas Adams “Life, the Universe and Everything” 1982

1062. Comment by Gene | July 16th, 2009

      It doesn’t get any better than this! Well, it really will?

      And the most genius part of all of this is how company pays for all its products while you are bidding on them. You see, every 25 cents that you bid actually pays for the item on the company’s end so they never loose any money on the actual cost of an item. Thus making both parties win. The company gets paid in full, and you can win items for virtually nothing!

      Since you are already interested in the company, I’m going to assume you are already pretty internet savvy and have some good idea about what’s hot and whats not online right now. As you know, we are living in the age of Web 2.0 at the time of this writing and Social Media sites and web development have never been easier to put your specific opportunity in front of millions of people every single day on those websites like Google, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube just to name a few. There are literally thousands of different social media sites that you can target and receive massive exposure to your business. Even this blog! So if you are currently looking at getting involved with the company or are already involved and want to take your business to that next level. Their marketing is what you have no choice but to learn and master down to a science. Join me and try the reverse auctions on me. Let me know and I’ll give you 10 free cre*dits to do so.

1063. Comment by Beavis | July 16th, 2009

      Maybe if you beg someone will take your credits.

1064. Comment by Only Facts | July 16th, 2009

      Gene

      Sorry I dont get the point any of that. Why don’t you ever answer or acknowledge the questions I ask you?

1065. Comment by digshake | July 17th, 2009

      Wow I received an offer to join Droobli today and while the blog was enough to convince me not to, the comments put it over the top. eaglescout you must have an abundance of patience to put up with all of the attacks and BS flying around this place. You have my gratitude.

1066. Comment by Chip | July 18th, 2009

      Gene is in a drug induced coma but his postings are the random mutterings that a nurse writes down and contributes to this blog. The guy is amazing. He really believes he’s a big businessman. A major player in the big game. But he’s not. All he wants is to con people that they may get things cheaply if enough other people are ripped off by checking prices. The guy is a conscience-free zone.

      Stay away from him. He’s evil and so is Droobli.

1067. Comment by Scam Buster | July 18th, 2009

      I love the “Drooblispeak”.

1068. Comment by Caerl Webb | July 18th, 2009

      Hey Gene? What makes you think you’re a Christian? Your involvement in Droobli would be frowned upon by the elders in your church. You gotta give it up. Go to your pastor and tell him what you’re doing with Droobli. He won’t want your money in the collection bag.

      Gene, Droobli is a scam. The reverse auction is gambling. It’s gambling because other people have to lose money for you to get a cheap price.

      God’s got money for you if that’s what you want. But what about your treasure in heaven? You should be building that up. No Christian should be involved with GROOBLI. It’s a nasty business.

1069. Comment by Beavis | July 18th, 2009

      OK, I think we need to lighten up on Gene. I don’t think he is the brightest bulb on the porch but attacking his ethics isn’t going to help him find his way out of this. He just doesn’t get it. He is now in denial and trying to defend his choice of joining this operation. Eventually it will sink in. When enough broken promises add up (remember when the shopping mall was going to be the big breakout?) he’ll eventually get it.

      Gene, if a year goes by and nothing of substance comes from Droobli, will you renew? Seriously, if you give the clowns a year and they still can’t get even remotely close to meeting their hype, will you keep recruiting others and wasting your time and money? Where do you draw the line; or do you keep going blindly forward? Tell us, Gene, what is your breaking point?

1070. Comment by Gene | July 18th, 2009

      I don’t think the company is a scam nor do I think it is unethical if I did I would not have chosen to do this great plan to have an online store now I can understand if you think it’s gambling then don’t get involved. Now I can appreciate those who do think it’s gambling and stick to their guns that’s fine too. Now what you must remember everyone has their own choices to make. I don’t know what your ethics are but you don’t make your points by condemning a person. To be a scam the company wouldn’t deliver on what they propose and my experience has shown they have come through with what they say. Maybe not as fast as even I would like them to but they come through and continue to do so.

      Now if you can show me how it is gambling I would consider your position, also show me that the law of the land recognizes the auctions as gambling. The ball is in your court.

1071. Comment by Beavis | July 18th, 2009

      Oh, goody, I have a ball.

1072. Comment by Gene | July 18th, 2009

      Oh goody it wasn’t you too bad unless you’re Caerl Webb!

1073. Comment by Beavis | July 18th, 2009

      I’m still not giving it back.

1074. Comment by Caerl Webb | July 19th, 2009

      Gene, the love of money is the root of all evil. God knew what He was talking about there. Look at how many Christians get caught up in scams like Amway and Droobli and Zango and Mannatech and need I go on?

      If there is an item for $10, 000 and one guy “checks the price” 10 000 times he could theoretically get the item for the discounted price of $7,500. But he has spent $8000 to get the price down. If he swoops in and buys it at the 25 % off price of $7500 he would have spent $15, 500 to get the $10 000 item.

      Look at the money he has lost! However, you would say no one person would do that. That’s true. Say a group of people check the price and bring it down to $7500. Then you swoop in and buy it for $7500 having only spent 80cents. Do you think you got a good deal? Do you think you were clever?

      What about the poor schmucks who spent $8000 to bring the price down $2500 for you? Do you sau too bad? Aren’t some of them people you tried to get into Droobli by telling them what a wonderful opportunity it was? Don’t you care?

      What about poker machine in Vegas? They pay out say $100 000 because thousands of people put through $200 000 on that machine.

      With gambling, some people make money at the expense of others. Droobli is gambling.

      Gene, please think about your eternal destiny. Why don’t you pray about it? Don’t believe me. Ask the one who loves you more than you love yourself.

1075. Comment by Mr Reed | July 19th, 2009

      The Full Article is at TruthAboutDroobli.com

      The Law Plus Facts, Hopefully This Ends This Stupid Debate!

      Is GroobLi Gambling Or Legal?

      Can any of the three Droobli online auctions be considered a gambling enterprise? Do any of them violate U.S. state or federal laws against lotteries, raffles, or similar forms of gambling? What can be done to minimize any such liability?

      Gambling generally. In order for a given transaction to be identified as gambling, three distinct elements must be present together consideration, chance, and prize.

      1. Consideration: in contract law generally, the term “considerationmay mean practically anything of value, including giving up the right to some future act or obligation. In American gambling law, however, consideration means money. This money must be risked- that is, the player gets nothing else for his money but the opportunity to win a prize , determined by chance. Just as importantly he stands to lose that money permanently for no gain, goods, or service in return.

      A. Standard auction model: in a traditional auction,“consideration” in the gambling sense does not exist. The highest bidder gains the right to buy the item(s) on offer. So long as he can actually pay, the matter is resolved. The same is obviously true of the” ordinary” reverse auction

      B. Droobli models: on the one hand, a participant expends one credit merely for the chance to check the price. From this point of view it may be said that he is not actually purchasing any chances to buy. On the other hand, each time the price of the item on offer is checked in the “Xpress”and “Zero” models, the act of checking forces the pricedown $.25. In the ““Unique Bid”, a participant must also expend one credit to make his bid. In that sense, and because credits once utilized to make a bid or price check are not refunded, it is clear that participants purchase the means to affect , or least enter, the contest. Therefore I conclude that the element of consideration is present in all versions of the Droobli online reverse actions.

      2. Chance: there is some element of chance in everything human beings do. For the purposes of U.S. gambling law, however, “chance” means that a given event is resolved, in regard to all participants at the time, by a common random occurrence which is not under the control of any participant. To give an example, if John and Joe play chess against each other, the element of chance is minimized if not eliminated. All things being equal, the game will be won by the player with the most knowledge of the game and the best moves. Chess is a skill game. But if, one the other hand, they both purchase a lottery ticket, skill has nothing todo with the outcome. Either a given number is picked or it isn’t. This is pure chance.

      A. Additionally it makes a large difference whether the bettor is a participant. To take the chess example above, it is not gambling if John and Joe agree that the loser of the chess games must pay the winner $10. The conduct of game isunder the control of the two participants. However, if two onlookers, Sarah and Sue, bet on which man will win the chess game, that is gambling, because the outcome of the game is not under the control of either woman.

      B. In the case of Droobli, the element of chance does not rise to the level required to categorize the activity as “gambling”.

      In the “Xpress” and “Zero” models, the resolution of the event is not dependent upon some random occurrence, but only on the conduct of the participants. The price of a given item on offer is decreased only by the actions of the participants. If, for some reason, none of the participants decided to check/decrease the price of the item, that price would remain static unless and until one or more of the participants chose to act. In fact, if no one chooses to bid on a given item, nothing happens at all.

      “Unique Bid” is very much in the same vein. That is, a participant’s success in placing a “unique bid” does not depend on anything outside the efforts ofthe respective participants. Two or more participants may offer bids at the same price, but this is not caused by any random agency. This coincidence (once again, barring collusion) would be the result of the respective participants’ independent decisions, just as various runners’ independent decisions to runa little faster or hold back in a race may lead to different- but not random- results.

      For this reason I conclude that the element of chance, as understood in American gambling law , is minimal to nonexistent. While the outcome of any given reverse auction is not solely under the control of any one participant, the actions of the respective participants are the only inputs to the final result. There is no random dispositive influence acting outside participatory control.

      3. Prize: the definition of “prize” is essentially anything of value.Since obtaining valuable items such as iPods at a reduced price is the whole point of participating in Droobli’s reverse auctions, the element of price is obviously present.

      4. I conclude that since the element of chance, as understood in gambling law, is not present in the Droobli auctions, these auctions cannot be considered either games of chance or lotteries.

      U.S. State Laws :

      1. Gambling : Once we have established that Droobli is not a lottery, the gambling laws of most states are not longer a worry. But not all states: even playing games of skill online may be illegal in Illinois and Iowa (720 ILCS 5-28-1(a) 12 and ISC 725.5, respectively). In addition, eight states outlaw Internet gambling ( except , of course, what they themselves choose to license). They would have to stretch a point to call Droobli an Internet game of chance; further, there is no indication of any particular benefit in doing so. [Note: the text of each State law cited in this discussion is provided in APPENDIX A.] Most importantly, since the reverse auction is neither a sporting contest, a lottery, nor a game of chance, I conclude that Droobli has nothing to fear from state gambling laws and is not gambling.

      2. Need for an identified auctioneer ? At least twenty-eight states,however, require a license for an auction to be conducted.[ See TABLE I]. Some require it at state level, some at county or city level; others differentiate by what is being sold ( real estate, autos, livestock). Some require large bonds to be posted and personal background checks to be conducted as well. While the purpose behind these laws is clear enough, the prevention of fraud, in many states this has become a means to restrict competition and protect the “home market” from other auctions and auctioneers.

      3. Is it conceivable that Droobli might be subject to an injunction or lawsuit for conducting auctions without a license issued by the state or municipality where a certain bidder lives? This brings us to the question of jurisdiction and the Internet. Does the transaction take place where the bidder is, and therefore, under the jurisdiction of the bidder’s home state? Or does it take place at the server of the Internet establishment? There is no American law, as far as gambling, which states this, and the case precedent is sparse and unsatisfactory.\

      Federal law:

      Gambling laws : generally speaking, U.S. Federal anti-gambling laws are activated when state gambling laws are broken. Since we have established that state gambling violations are not on the cards, Droobli therefore need not be concerned about violating U.S.Federal gambling law.

      Auctions: Auctions, as a form of sale, are governed by at the state level by commerce laws. Those auctions which allow bids across state lines come under the Federal Trade Commission, which is mainly concerned that the advertising for such auctions is truthful, and that the items sold correspond to their descriptions. Those conditions being satisfied, there is little further cause for concern. There is no such thing as a national auction license.

      Conclusion and Recommendations

      Droobli’s reverse auctions are obviously NOT gambling games, and DO NOT constitute a game of chance nor a lottery as far as the terms are defined in American state and Federal law.

      Finally, there is the matter of “ image”: since gambling is supposed to be a social harm, associating with socially desirable goals is very good preventive medicine. Droobli’s charity-only auction is a very good example of this, and this should be a continuing standard practice, expanded where practicable.

      The Full Article is at TruthAboutDroobli.com

1076. Comment by Gene | July 19th, 2009

      First of all I don’t think any of those companies you listed are scams. What makes them scams? They just have a different way to market their products and instead of giving all their advertising money to the big agencies they pay the reps to do it. What’s wrong with you? It’s all business. Come into the new century. So they may price their products a bit higher for the most part and that’s one thing that sets our shop apart. We don’t. I am not caught up in the love of money. I just see a good business plan that offers good products where money is to be made. Or is it wrong to make a living? It’s not like I am selling porn or drugs and I don’t think the auctions induce any drug like state of a gambling addiction.
      I think it’s a stretch to call it gambling. I have prayed about it. With the main auction where the price goes down in 25 cent increments I don’t see a problem. You can buy any time you see the price. I don’t think anyone would check it out 10,000 times either.

      But there are some crazy people out there. But just because a few go to extremes isn’t an argument to stop something. Maybe we should ban bridges because some people jump off them. If people want to gamble I think they could find a better place than the auctions. Now the other auctions might fit into a questionable gray area but again if these bridge jumpers want to do it whose going to stop it. I really don’t think my eternal destiny hinges on this. Get real man.

      If I tell a brother to go across a bridge to get to the other side am I causing a brother to stumble if he jumps off and kills himself? This is an online store man and you can find products at decent prices plus get reward points that add up to cash savings and if you want to do the auctions once in a while you can earn free cre*dits when you shop in the mall. So do your shopping with us at the mall and get your free cre*dits. Then you can bid in the auctions for nothing. I need to get on with my life now thank you for your concern but I really don’t share it. If at sometime I see the problem you seem to think looms over us then I will get out. Right now I see this as a blog that doesn’t really warrant consideration who is saying the world is flat be careful where you step.

1077. Comment by Beavis | July 19th, 2009

      If I ever wanted to start a Crusade I’d recruit from the MLMers; they believe, no matter what the facts may say. To quote Stephen Colbert about former President Bush:

      “The greatest thing about this man is he’s steady. You know where he stands. He believes the same thing Wednesday that he believed on Monday, no matter what happened Tuesday. Events can change, this man’s beliefs never will.”

      You Drooblidiots will surely follow in his footsteps.

1078. Comment by Gene | July 19th, 2009

      shut up beavis

1079. Comment by Only Facts | July 19th, 2009

      You cannot argue with a person who bases their entire opinion on FAITH. No matter how many times you prove to that person they are wrong, in their eyes they do not need proof so they are not wrong. Merely the fact that the person they have chosen to believe keeps repeating the same old doctrine, in their eyes,is solid, believable fact.
      Gene I am amazed with your smugness in this whole affair. You continually use the term parrot, but have brought nothing new into the debate. If you truly believe in this concept thats fine, but please don’t attempt to seduce others the way you were seduced.

1080. Comment by Beavis | July 19th, 2009

      That’s because Gene the Sheep has been taught to call all naysayers parrots. He can also do the Macarena.

1081. Comment by Gene | July 19th, 2009

      Bahhhh bahhhh! Hey only facts what we wrong about? Of course that’s beav again the parrot, who you working for? You’re not making any progress to stop the company. But you try to seduce into your own stupid misdirected logic. You bring up the moral card and you fail you bring up the bankrupt card and you fail you bring up the shipping center and you fail you bring up the character bashing and you fail you bring up auctions success and you fail you say it’s all lies and you fail because you lie. Come on let’s bring up a fresh new look here boy. Nobody is reading this but you and I. Is that a correct assessment? And if any are reading this they better go to a webinar and really find out the facts. Now watch out when you cross a bridge the old flat lander could be under it to spook you. Now watch out where you step. Eagle I must be making you some money! When you going to turn over a new leaf and see it’s actually working here?

1082. Comment by Beavis | July 19th, 2009

      They must have dropped some LSD into the Droobli Koolaide. I seriously couldn’t follow that rant.

1083. Comment by Only Facts | July 20th, 2009

      Gene

      I must admit I do have a hidden agenda in regard to my last post…………Sorry I’m not Beavis but I did write the last post to draw you out. You see you simply refuse to acknowledge all but the simplest questions I ask you. Please refer to my last posts, and don’t worry you don’t have to go far.

      Gene if this is for real, and not a scam, they should be easy to answer.

      Looking forward to hearing from you.

1084. Comment by Caerl Webb | July 20th, 2009

      gene looks like he might have traded his soul for mammon. He still doesn’t understand how Droobli is a scam. He is willing to buy things cheaply that others lost money making it cheap. Aka reverse auctions.

      How you can call yourself a christian and then take delight in the fact that you got something cheap in the reverse auction because a lot of people lost money ‘checking prices’???? How do you not have a Christian conscience that bothers you about all this?????

      It’s only money !!!!!!!!!! You would risk salvation for only this? May God have mercy on your soul as you trick and con people to join. Doesn’t your church teach about the one true God?

1085. Comment by Mr Reed | July 20th, 2009

      I just read an article about a the guy who won the $25k 2009 Harley Davidson on the Unique bid auction for $4700. I saw several people posting how they were bidding on that bike. The price he won this bike for is amazing. Even if you dont like the site you have to admit that is a great deal. He’s also won a $2000 travel voucher for $286, An apple $367 Ipod for $130, you can read the whole article at the link below written by the guy himself.

      You can read the the full article on TruthAboutGroobLi.com

1086. Comment by Beavis | July 20th, 2009

      Winning the Lotto is is a great deal for a buck; better than a Harley for 80 cents. I’ll just ignore the odds and talk everyone I know into playing it because “how could you go wrong”? I mean, really, how can you pass up getting millions of dollars for only a buck? And, wait, casino gambling! That’s the ticket! I’ll tell everyone casino gambling is a great idea. Just start with a buck and don’t stop until the house is bankrupt! How can you lose, really? Now, if I only could start an MLM around this sage advice.

1087. Comment by Gene | July 20th, 2009

      Caerl you’re a lot ridiculous. Sca*m you say tell me how. Who are you casting stones in the first place? Where are your loyalties? Pointing a bony finger. Are you a Christian or are you just using it to your advantage? If you are not you have no room to talk in the first place. I gave you my reasoning and that should be enough if you are a Christian. You are selling your soul to this unethical blog tearing down a good company. Don’t you know you are not to follow a multitude to do evil. Where is your conscience? False accusers are this bunch. Get behind me Satan! You are welcome to shop at my store. I’d be glad to take your money. If you noted what Reed posted the company comes through. Go to the link. How do you live with yourself? The Bible has instruction for people like you, Besides, they are likely to become lazy and spend their time gossiping from house to house, (could we say blog to blog?)getting into other people’s business and saying things they shouldn’t.

1088. Comment by Gene | July 20th, 2009

      I think beav’s on drugs

1089. Comment by Beavis | July 20th, 2009

      This is really getting weird.

1090. Comment by Only Facts | July 20th, 2009

      Gene and ME

      Are you guys for real????????? You openly doubt and question EVERYTHING in this forum, including the identity of the bloggers, but because the great and powerful Oz (Droobli) puts a blog on their own web page and waves something shinny you take their word as gospel. Does this guy who won the overpriced bike exist? How many people actually bid on the bike? did you? have you ever won anything in this bidding frenzy? My god this debate is becoming farcical.

      Anyone reading this please ask yourself one simple question. Why does ME and Gene flatly refuse to acknowledge any questions I have asked them. Answer, 1. They know whats going on and wont be drawn into anything that they may slip up on. Or 2. They have never bothered to look any further than http://www.droobli.com for answers, because Droobli would lie. They said so!

1091. Comment by Beavis | July 20th, 2009

      “Comrades!” he cried. “You do not imagine, I hope, that we pigs are doing this in a spirit of selfishness and privilege? Many of us actually dislike milk and apples. I dislike them myself. Our sole object in taking these things is to preserve our health. Milk and apples (this has been proved by Science, comrades) contain substances absolutely necessary to the well-being of a pig. We pigs are brainworkers. The whole management and organization of this farm depend on us. Day and night we are watching over your welfare. It is for your sake that we drink that milk and eat those apples.” Squeeler, Animal Farm (or is it Droobli Corporate?)

1092. Comment by Gene | July 20th, 2009

      We are using it you flake it works.OF Take a pick and a poke and find out for yourself instead of dreaming up your cattle trialings. You’re looking for answeres in all the wrong places. Go to a webinar.

1093. Comment by Gene | July 20th, 2009

      get you answers here! Pick a webinar that works for you dingy.
      They won’t lwet me put up a webinar here. But you can find it.

1094. Comment by Gene | July 20th, 2009

      freaks

1095. Comment by Only Facts | July 20th, 2009

      Gene

      Why cant you answer the questions your self? For example the location of the World Wide Corporate Headquarters? Or the World Wide Logistics Centre?

      Don’t listen to the doctrine. Look it up. Prove me wrong. Give me something from someone not associated with Droobli.

1096. Comment by Gene | July 20th, 2009

      They are all answered for you big guy why don’t you go to the source. I don’t need answers you do! You afraid you will liearn something? People get their products associates make there money and it is to be expected from a legit company. Why in the world you want someone not associated with this great company? What you want a second opinion ask your Dr. What do I have to prove to you? All you want to do is make false claims. I bet you aren’t a happy camper most of the time and people can’t stand to be around you.

1097. Comment by Only Facts | July 20th, 2009

      Gene

      What false claims?????????????????????????????????

      All I am saying Gene is that I have watch many webinars, read Droobli links, listened to all available information, and keep hearing the same old thing from Droobli. No answers are given just subtle promises without actualy saying anything that can be proven. You show many any, and I mean ANY legitimate company thats promotes itself in such secrecy and I will listen to you.

      And Gene you don’t have to prove anything to me, just the people your on selling this concept too with no actual knowledge of the company. You have not made one single statement that you have rersearched your self, and you dare to call people parots. The company that will be bigger than ebay? The only similarity between Droobli and Ebay is the painfully similar LOGO.

      Also, I’m very popular thank you.

1098. Comment by Beavis | July 20th, 2009

      To Gene,

      “The learned is happy, nature to explore; The fool is happy, that he knows no more.”
      Alexander Pope

1099. Comment by Derek Freeborn | July 21st, 2009

      Dear Mr Reed,

      So someone got $25 000 Harley for $4700! DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH A LOT OF PEOPLE HAD TO LOSE SO HE COULD GET HIS $4700 HARLEY?

      Do you care? A total of more than $64 , 000 had to be lost by others for nothing so that jerk could get his Harley. The math is easy 80 000 price checks at 25 cents reduction each time takes the Harley down $20 000. But the 80 000 price checks cost 80 cents each or a total of $64 000. People had to lose/spend $64 000 worth of credits so the guy could get his Harley for $4700. Even if I could get a Harley for 1 cent that way I wouldn’t want it. It’s cruel to too many people. I couldn’t live with myself to get a Harley that way.

      Droobli people are just blood sucking greedy people. Do you want more money? JUst want fewer things. Stop looking at catalogs. Enjoy what you have and you will have more money. Kill the desire to have more and more things. Protect the environment by being content with less.

      If Droobli didn’t exist the world would be a better place.

1100. Comment by Wes Steele - American Legion | July 21st, 2009

      Gene is a certified kook. I mean the boy reminds me of some of the prisoners of war that I helped debrief. They had been so brainwashed that they would belief anything, Gene is like that but worse because he’d try to get his work colleagues, church friends and neighbors involved. Why he’d even try to get his geandmother involved if it made him money. He wouldn’t care if it killed her as long as he made some money off her.

      Droobli people talk about “money while you sleep”. But how can they sleep when they scam people so much?

      I sleep well. I bet Gene doesn’t. He’s feel so guilty every night if he conned people to join. Maybe he has never conned anyone to join. Let’s hope so. Gene is the worst kind of fella I reckon. We wouldn’t have put up with him in the military. His kind are evil.

1101. Comment by Gene | July 21st, 2009

      Hey you’d have to put up with me in the military. I was a Marine MP. During the Vietnam era. Boys! LOL I am so terrible. Everyone that has a brain can see through all of your character assasinations and your blown out of proportional premises about greed and conning and worst kind of fella. The company does what it says. When it doesn’t then you can call it by any name you wish. I slept very well last night thankyou. So take a good look and join a webinar.

1102. Comment by Only Facts | July 21st, 2009

      Gene.
      I would first like to address your statement re: Character Assassination. If you go back over your own posts, you will clearly see YOU are the one that resorts to character assassination whenever a question and or statement is put to you that you can’t handle. Secondly re; “The company does what it says. When it dosen’t then you can call it by any name you wish”. This is the whole point Gene it dosen’t do what it says;
      1. Launch dates!!!!!!!
      2. Promises to be on the stock exchange!!!!!!
      3. Diminishing commissions !!!!!!!!!
      4. Stating they are located at premises they are clearly
      not!!!!!!!
      5. Over stating prices of goods !!!!!!!!!
      6. Claiming associations with legitimate companies and
      charities!!!!!!!!!
      7. Folding companies!!!!!!!!!!
      8. Over exaggerating participants!!!!!!!!
      9. Making incorrect statements about management!!!!!!

      And I could go on. This Gene is why you loose credibility. In an earlier post you said you did not have to prove anything to me. If thats the case stop posting. This is not the forum for you. You are doing more harm to Droobli than any negativity on this site, through your blind bias. Just look at all the posts after yours.

      Derek Freeborn.
      Even though your figures add up, I think you will find that the unique bid auction does not work that way. In theory (though I doubt it) one and only one person could make a bid and win it. My problem with this item is, that it was originally over priced, and to my knowledge, is totally reliant on the honesty of the company. Hmmmmmmm.

1103. Comment by Only Facts | July 21st, 2009

      Derek Freeborn

      My appoligies. After looking at the Unique Bid auction again, I beleive you are totally right. A lot of money was lost on that. How is that not gambling?????? It seems to go against the basic rule of you can buy it when ever you like.

1104. Comment by Gene | July 21st, 2009

      You know there are three different type auctions. Do your home work Only Facts!
      … with one of the most notable children’s charities in the country; Blessings in a Backpack and donated the entire revenue from a recent charitable auction in order to raise money for this worthy cause. The customer’s of the companyreally showed their support as Dean, a vice-president with the company presented Blessings in a Backpack founder Stan Curtis with a check for $13,700.

1105. Comment by Gene | July 21st, 2009

      I guess I’ve done my work here for now!

1106. Comment by High Hopes | July 21st, 2009

      WOW! This is an interesting study in quantum mechanics. No wonder we cant figure out where a particles position is in an atom. Parallel Universes must exist after all. If Einstein could have lived to see the study on these pages his “aha” would have been finally enjoyed….can I have the copyright Eaglescout? I’ll even split it with ya.

1107. Comment by bubby | July 21st, 2009

      when is the movie coming out?

1108. Comment by Only Facts | July 21st, 2009

      Gene

      Thanks for that insight. The bike was on the unique bid auction correct? If thats the case you can not buy the item when you want correct? If thats the case it is a lottery correct? And if thats the case it’s gambling correct?

      Can you tell me how to find the article on Blessings in a backpack, I can’t seem to find it in offical Duli press or news?

1109. Comment by Gene | July 21st, 2009

      You are welcome. Give me an email address and I will forward you the backpack info. Find mine at my site. I got to go to bed. Is that correct?

1110. Comment by me | July 21st, 2009

      Only Facts,
      I don’t think that this is the place to find what you are looking for. I am very busy, and this is way at the opposite end of my priorities. GroobLi customer support is always available (Berlin Time). I will help as much as I can with what I do know, and will never fabricate what I do not. You would do better going where the name GroobLi is not mentioned thousands of times in any configuration imaginable (and some unimaginable) resulting in a slam dunk top Google search. This blog is a watering hole, and has become popular as a result.

      I see you have some unanswered questions…I only will help you with what I do know, and what I do not feel free to contact customer support.
      (I do not have the time to read through all of this stuff)

      Comment # 1102:
      1) Launch Dates… they launched on April 1st to the NA platform like they said, there were some software delays which is quite common (i.e. microsoft)
      2) Stock exchange: Not sure where you heard they were promising to be on the stock exchange… If I owned Droobli I would only do it at a strategic time (if at all). Since they have just entered the customer phase a day or 2 ago there is a long way to go.
      3) Diminishing commissions: Commissions were never diminished, they simply launched to the NA platform, Made all adjustments to be legal here etc, and made a tremendous improvement, and actually put a lot more money into the plan…perhaps you heard something from someone who does not understand the biz model?
      4) Location: Not sure what you mean here… it is obvious that the world headquarters are in the Twin Towers in Berlin etc. (use google Earth if you do not believe it, it is right next to the famous “molecule man statue”, they have 9 floors in there, refer to the pics on the GroobLiNetwork site) If you are referring to where the LLC’s are registered with that law firm in Delaware, I have never been there nor do I need to go. I admit that I do not know the complete infrastructure of every Droobli building, perhaps you can fill me in. I know many savvy Business people who protect their companies, and everyone who has a vested interest by diversifying locations and protecting their investments with multiple entities. I know that everything I have purchased arrived in a few days, and had a very impressive GroobLi box, literature, Logos on the packaging tape, etc. You should give it a try… the worst that can happen is you will get something for the lowest price. If you do not like the items there are always gift certificates in there (cash money)
      5) Overstating: Things on the Auctions are guaranteed to start at the lowest price, it would be a big oversight to create a huge customer service nightmare on that one. But we need to compare apples to apples, I heard that bike was a custom one of a kind edition for example. If someone bought it for 20 grand, and someone proved that they could order it cheaper somewhere else, why risk that public relations nightmare? Not a good biz strategy to overprice intently.
      6) Claims with Charities: They are involved with who they are involved with, win win for many charities. They are plain as can be on DroobliPartner.com What a great way to generate revenue for a non profit.
      7) Folding companies: What folding companies?
      Over exaggerating participants: Participants? We just entered the Customer Phase a day or 2 ago… give it time. Fill me in.
      9) Management: I have always known who the management is… not sure what you are referring to.

      Just trying to help. I will never say what I do not know. What I do know as fact has far outweighed what I have seen on a few sites people find on Google.
      Well my 5 minutes is up…time to get back to work and grab huge market share. See you in a month or 2.

1111. Comment by me | July 21st, 2009

      Before anyone gets confused any further,
      The directions are on the site…

      Read them carefully…is it gambling?
      They are games…
      Save some money on the Mall, or at one of your fav, restaurants. Take one of the dollars you just saved and have fun don’t spend a ton, just a few dollars a month. Just like walking out of wal-Mart and spitting a dollar into one of those silly things that never grab the stuffed animal you want, but this is light years beyond that silly idea.(LOL I hate when my kids insist we waste their dollar there, probably because I hate to shop, and want to get home, then compassion kicks in, and I love seeing the excitement.

      The 2 GroobLi games are kind of like a raffle ticket. I see it all the time at the county fair.

      Main Point:
      The practical one is the Xpress Auction, which is exactly why you end up there, and no where else, when you log into your Cinch.

      Don’t know what a Cinch is? It makes GroobLi a cinch for the customer, and it is the signal of the customer acquisition phase. That is how we communicate with the customer. We send them a Cinch, it looks like an i-pod, (there will be a smart phone version soon). It has five buttons:

      Auctions, Shopping, Messages, Support, and a favorite of millions of people to come in 5 continents, free credits!

      If you want a cinch… just wait awhile, and one of your friends will come up and say “I just found out about something really cool” everyone will know about it.

      Free Cinches to all who ask
      No need to log into their browser.
      No need for email, etc.

      Hope this helps…if you need a cinch just ask.
      If you want a piece of the Pie…Just ask, but it will get smaller as time goes on and you read all this stuff.

1112. Comment by Only Facts | July 21st, 2009

      Me.

      Thank you for taking the time to respond. I do in fact appreciate it. I also wish to answer your questions, and will in time. A quick question though, are you in Germany. Also I wish I could play the Droobli game however here in Australia we cannot purchase anything, even through the mall as yet.

      Get back to you soon.

1113. Comment by Gene | July 21st, 2009

      It’s best not to mention the company name we all know what company is being spoken of thus driving more traffic to this blog. The detractors do enough name dropping. In fact it is against company policy. I don’t think it’s right for honest people who really want to do this business to get sucked into this cesspool of a blog and lose their way in their pursuit of a decent business because they found it in a google search. If you want information on the company there are some short videos on my site to start with and if you wish to go to a webinar they should be listed also. Feel free to talk with me personally and I will attempt to help you with answers or direct you where you can get them. I’ve been in the company from September of 08 and I am a Gold member.

1114. Comment by me | July 22nd, 2009

      No I actually live in the US. I do understand, you are right you cannot buy anything in Australia…yet. However we are pre-launching there now, just as we pre-launched the US prior to April 1.

      I Already have a team there…and I believe it will be live by the end of the year…but don’t hold me on that, there is much work to do.

      Regards

1115. Comment by eaglescout | July 22nd, 2009

      Mr Reed,

      Your position on GroobLi is highly obfuscated, and all it does is belabor the questionable idea that if GroobLi contributes to a charity here and there, or trades in the United States only by proxy, that it may be able to avoid legal repercussions in the United States, not because it is legal, but because it may be perceived as a good to society, irrespective of whether it actually benefits or harms society.

      Your entire pro-GroobLi position is contingent on the assumption that there are no elements of chance. Calling GroobLi a reverse-auction does not by itself eliminate the various instances in Game #2 and Game #3, which are equivalent to 1. a lottery, and 2. Spread-betting, and entirely destroy that assumption.

      Mr. Reed, your assumption that there are no elements of chance is incorrect, which invalidates your entire argument. Furthermore, you have only commented on the gaming aspects of GroobLi: You conveniently ignored the multi-level marketing aspect completely. And you also ignored the crimes by which your contractors and their associates have been charged with.

      In the end, your comments address the legality of GroobLi very poorly, and miss the entire point. I would hope that in the future you think harder about the ethical issues brought up in the article and attempt to address them, instead of copying material written by incompetent GroobLi lawyers ages ago.

1116. Comment by Son of Sam (or maybe beavis) | July 22nd, 2009

      Gene Said:

      “I’ve been in the company from September of 08 and I am a Gold member.”

      Renewal time is approaching. Do you pay another $3,199? Do it Gene; send it in; you know want to do it; all of that opportunity will be wasted if you don’t; all of your patient waiting will be for naught if you don’t give them your money. I’m ordering you to renew. Do it!

1117. Comment by Mr Reed | July 22nd, 2009

      EagleScout

      The Debate we are having is whether or not this company is is a scam or illegal. Not about you opinion on what is ethical or not.

      If what you are saying were to be correct then purchasing a lottary ticket would be a scam because the chances that you are to win is slim to none.

      Clearly playing the lottary is not a scam and all parties know the risk and the outcome before any money changes hands.

      I like Droobli but I am not for the company or against it. I simply state the facts and the bottum line not because I said It but because the LAW (STATE AND FEDERAL LAW) says it is not a scam or illigal.

      Also For you to say the company lawyers are incompentent, who are stating the law and act as if contributing to a charity hear or their is not a good thing, is a very ignorant statement. AND IM NOT SAYING YOU ARE IGNORANT JUST THE STATEMENT.

      The fact that they do focus on charities should be praised not pushed to the side because you have a certain opinion about a company. Also Don’t call a lawyer incompetent because clearly to pass the BAR makes you competent! This just proves how you are letting your emotions drive your opinions and making you sound like the incompentant one.

      Say the company is bad, even say you don’t like that their is an elemant of luck or whatever, but don’t say the company is a scam or illigal when its clearly not the case.

      For those who want to read the full article and get Facts and not opinions go to TruthAboutDroobli.com

1118. Comment by Beavis | July 22nd, 2009

      “Facts and not opinions go to TruthAboutDroobli.com”

      Droobli is not in the “fact” business. But here are some from a very reliable source (in other words I’m giving you the facts):

      Fact: Droobli is offering “investment” into itself through OIB (Offshore Investment Brokers), a company specializing in moving assets to banking havens out of the reach of the court systems. At this point I’ll render an opinion to go with this fact; scumbags!

      Fact: Droobli had it’s US launch in October of 2008 and in April of 2009. I’ll render another opinion: marketing bullshit!

      Fact: Droobli claims it will be bigger than eBay and Google. My opinion: sorry, this one is too stupid to even respond to.

      Fact: Gene is a sheep.

1119. Comment by Robbie | July 22nd, 2009

      I haven’t posted anything in a long time, because the discussion is kinda going in circles.

      @Derek:
      “So someone got $25 000 Harley for $4700! DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH A LOT OF PEOPLE HAD TO LOSE SO HE COULD GET HIS $4700 HARLEY?”

      I don’t think this is the point, and I don’t think that a lot of people lost money on that. Actually, I don’t really believe this auction ever happened, because a Droobli site (as linked by Mr. Reed) is not a credible source for me to read about Droobli. I’m still waiting for some serious press coverage. I don’t see any. At all. How come?

      This auction is a form of gambling, so if anyone loses money on that, it’s their fault. It could even make sense – as a game – if a really huge number of people were taking part in it. Then the price would go down, but the amount invested by every single participant would be relatively low. The point is: No one cares about Droobli, and this is why I don’t believe the auctions are all real. They just wouldn’t pay.

1120. Comment by Beavis | July 22nd, 2009

      “The point is: No one cares about Droobli,”

      I care about Droobli and so does Gene. Gene cares because he thinks it will make him rich. I care because Gene is a sheep (sheep are funny).

1121. Comment by eaglescout | July 22nd, 2009

      EagleScout

      The Debate we are having is whether or not this company is is a scam or illegal. Not about you opinion on what is ethical or not.

      I have questioned the legality of GroobLi, but I made it clear that that is of lesser importance than the deception involved; as a result, the legality is of little consequence to my arguments against GroobLi.

      If what you are saying were to be correct then purchasing a lottary ticket would be a scam because the chances that you are to win is slim to none.

      No, because lottery tickets aren’t advertised as “reverse auctions”.

      Clearly playing the lottary is not a scam and all parties know the risk and the outcome before any money changes hands.

      That’s not entirely true. The lottery is considered by mathematicians as a “stupid tax”. But that’s still beside the point, as state lotteries are not falsely advertised as “reverse auctions”

      I like Droobli but I am not for the company or against it. I simply state the facts and the bottum line not because I said It but because the LAW (STATE AND FEDERAL LAW) says it is not a scam or illigal.

      But lottery and spread-betting are gambling, and thus are illegal in most U.S. states, while operating without a license. The law on GroobLi is at best ambiguous. At worst, it clearly violates several state laws. But in all cases, it engages in a false advertising campaign.

      Also For you to say the company lawyers are incompentent, who are stating the law …

      You are right. GroobLi’s lawyer’s are opining on “why it might not be perceived as a harm to society; and why it might not encounter legal trouble in practice” That’s not incompetence, its simply a rather narrow opinion that ignores the multi-level marketing aspect of GroobLi, the bundling of credits and licensing, and the deceptive marketing involving passing off lotteries and spread-betting as “reverse-auctions” instead of gambling.

      But GroobLi’s lawyers are impotent, in the sense that they do not have the ability to erase the criminal records of their top executives and their unethical practices. In other words, the best defense they can come up with is: GroobLi donated $5000 dollars to Jordin Sparks charity, so please ignore that we are a pyramid scheme run by criminals.

      …and act as if contributing to a charity hear or their is not a good thing, is a very ignorant statement. AND IM NOT SAYING YOU ARE IGNORANT JUST THE STATEMENT.

      Don’t worry. I understand what you are saying. GroobLi’s lawyers are not incompetent, that’s an exaggeration. They are just impotent and they probably earn much more than the $5000 donated to Jordin Sparks, and thus are willing to ignore the unethical practices, i.e., false advertising and deception.

      The fact that they do focus on charities should be praised not pushed to the side because you have a certain opinion about a company. Also Don’t call a lawyer incompetent because clearly to pass the BAR makes you competent!

      Except a GroobLidiot (as Beavis likes to affectionately call them) leaked an opinion purchased by GroobLi in which they are specifically advised to use charities as cover. $5000 dollars might be a good tip for receiving sexual favors by Jordin Sparks, but for a company alleged to be the next eBay, that’s almost an insulting amount, which brings me to a very interesting point:

      If the best Jordin Sparks can do with her American Idol fame and myspace.com and other celebrity connections with GroobLi is pull in $5000, how much can the Gene’s of the world make?

      Assuming Gene bought “Gold”, if he had the same level of connections as Jordin Sparks, his total profit after a year of pestering friends would be $1800. And that’s if he was a celebrity like Jordin Sparks.

      This just proves how you are letting your emotions drive your opinions and making you sound like the incompentant one.

      It happens to me sometimes. I can’t resist insulting GroobLi’s lawyers.

      Say the company is bad, even say you don’t like that their is an elemant of luck or whatever, but don’t say the company is a scam or illigal when its clearly not the case.

      The legality is questionable, according to GroobLi’s lawyers which is why they resort to micro-charities (frankly I think Jordin Sparks is doing them a favor, and not the other way around). As to the label of scam, I have to admit that GroobLi has become more transparent in light of the criticism, so at this point, a better description is “a terrible ‘investment’ managed by criminals”.

      For those who want to read the full article and get Facts and not opinions go to TruthAboutDroobli.com

      I read the few articles you have on GroobLi. Yes, you have some facts, but they do not contradict any information I have posted here. If I missed it, please be sure to point it out. As it stands, it looks like if you are celebrity, you can make about $1801 with GroobLi. If not, you are out of luck. (Or you were scammed).

1122. Comment by Phil Hunter | July 23rd, 2009

      How dare you all attack Gene!!!! One day he’ll be the richest man on the planet and you’ll all be making him cups of coffee. Droobli is a gold mine. Get in on the ground floor and you’ll make millions. Forget the people who lose money checking prices in the auctions. They shouldn’t be so damn curious about prices anyway. Make money while you sleep This is a better opportunity than prostitution.

1123. Comment by Vern Chansell | July 23rd, 2009

      Droobli is a scam. Can all the Droobli scam artists quit trying to have the last word here? Go away and count all the millions of bucks you make from Droobli.

1124. Comment by Josiah | July 23rd, 2009

      SO Gene, after all these months how much have you made from Droobli? And can I pass that info to the IRS? You’re MILLIONAIRE RIGHT?

1125. Comment by Gene | July 23rd, 2009

      NO NO don’t tell the IRS!

1126. Comment by Beavis | July 23rd, 2009

      Yes, Gene, we are going to tell the IRS about the hundreds of dollars you made with Droobli. Oh, wait, you spent thousands to make those hundreds. Never mind.

1127. Comment by David Paulson | July 24th, 2009

      Gene’s a freaky guy. Loves money so much he cares nothing for his beliefs. All he wants is money. It consumes him day or night. His wife is neglected as he pursues his money god. He sees people only as potential droobli business associates. People who can make him money. And he wishes they will spend all their money on credits. Sell their houses and buy credits. Even sell their children to child pornographers to buy credits.

      What does Gene care? All he wants is money. He loves his money. Takes it out and counts it again and again. No time for hobbies or interests.

      It’s a sad story. Whatever happened to his faith in Jesus? The one who owned the world but had nothing in terms of material possessions. What happened to Gene as greed filled his nostrils?

1128. Comment by Michael Phillips | July 24th, 2009

      You’re right Mike. That day is coming when all will be judged. We all have to get right with God. Droobli scammers take note. We’re all sinners. You don’t need more money. You need the blood of Jesus.

1129. Comment by me | July 24th, 2009

      Money comes and goes…its people who are important. If we cannot be happy without money how are we going to be happy with it? Think about this: “those who consider the needs of others will never be in need”.

      GroobLi is simply an emerging worldwide portal whose business model is to inspire the human dynamics of getting good deals, saving money, maybe winning something they would never have been able to buy. They continue adding layer after layer of value and fun. GroobLi knows that, and most who read this, and get that, know that too.

      Everyone knows people do not spend more at GroobLi than they would anywhere else…it is the exact opposite (unless their 2 year old gets a hold of the computer when you are sleeping and keeps hitting the “check price” button…lol) Droobli credits are valuable, and need to be used wisely.

      It is hands down a brilliant idea, and people who insist in not benefiting from it are free to do so.

      We are seeing only a small percentage as they roll out the other parts to come.

1130. Comment by Charlie | July 24th, 2009

      Beavis and David Paulson don’t you guys have young boys to molest or something, get a life.

1131. Comment by Beavis | July 24th, 2009

      Charlie,

      I never mentioned anything about young boys. Neither did David Paulson. Is there something you are not telling us?

1132. Comment by Beavis | July 24th, 2009

      Oh, and “me” appears from his last post to be mathematically challenged. The average cost to each Droobli bidder for each product sold is a major bending over. Why is it that every Drooblidiot continuously ignores the unsuccessful bidders as if their loss doesn’t exist? Oh, wait, I know why; then their auctions would appear to be a ripoff. Denial; it’s a beautiful thing.

      “We are seeing only a small percentage as they roll out the other parts to come.”

      Gee, I smell another “launch”. Wash, rinse, repeat.

1133. Comment by Michael Phillips | July 24th, 2009

      Bevis is coarse but he’s a genius. Very creative and he expresses what’s wrong with Droobli very clearly. What’s wrong with the Droobli people who come here? What’s this about a wonderful business model? I guess gambling works for Vegas so why shouldn’t it work for Droobli?

      I, too love drooblispeak. Words like “worldwide portal” and “magnificent business model” is part of their sacred text. Basically the drooblidiots hate this blog because, like all pyramid/ponzi schemes, they need a constant supply of people coming in at the bottom and throwing away their money.

      I seriously don’t know how Drooblidiots can live with themselves. It’s immoral whether you’re a Christian or not.

      People should be better than that. Some Drooblidiots are bragging how many they’ve “caught”. “I’ve got 6 already”, says one. Can they hear themselves.

      Droobli is an evil cult. It’s so complicated that morons thinks it’s a wonderful business model. Everyone I explain it to thinks it sounds moronic and people won’t buy it. Almost everyone thought it sounded morally wrong.

      I’ve only met one person who’s heard of Droobli. That was the jerk who tried to get me involved. He felt sorry for me when I explained that “no I don’t want to make money while I sleep off poor gambling addicted idiots who keep “checking prices’”.

      Hopefully Droobli will fall over soon. It’s no threat to e bay. The suggestion is hilarious. I’m a small customer of ebay. I spend maybe $50 a month there mostly buying CDs.

1134. Comment by Beavis | July 25th, 2009

      “Bevis is coarse but he’s a genius.”

      Don’t get carried away, Michael, I’m not solving the economic crisis; I’m just outwitting sheep.

1135. Comment by Blor Kanish | July 26th, 2009

      Why do all these MLM schemes exist? It’s just greed pure and simple. All of us reading this are wealthy compared to the vast majority of the world. We Americans with our lust for more money and things just perpetuate this greed. The more we want the more we damage our planet. Why do we Americans feel we need 5 bedrooms 3 bathrooms etc. Why do we need more and more things?

      How about all of us here want less? Forget trying to keep up with the next door neighbors. Just be content with what you have. Stop wanting things. Recycle. Stop buying brand goods which only feed the greed.

      Give away money. Gene should only do his Droobli for charity. The ex-military policeman (by his own publicity) and builder is probably already wealthy. He doesn’t need more money. C’mon Gene do it for charity. You don’t want to be greedy with the earth’s limited resources. Reduce your consumption and thus reduce pollution.

1136. Comment by Beavis | July 26th, 2009

      Gene is caught up in the “rah rah” of Droobli. He really thinks its a great business opportunity; others, like me, really think it is a scam. He doesn’t need a “come to Jesus” talk or go on a greener Earth campaign because he does Droobli. His Droobli efforts, on a positive note, have little effect on the environment.

1137. Comment by Beavis | July 26th, 2009

      I meant “come to Jesus” in its literal sense; not in the sense of “listen to me; I’m the authority in a Jesus like way”.

1138. Comment by Only Facts | July 26th, 2009

      While researching facts to answer ME I came across information on Droobli failed launch in Asia (China?) can anyone fill in some details?
      One reason I heard was a complete system crash. (More software probs).
      The other reason was that is breaks the law in relation to Pyramid selling. In China? you are only allowed to go to 2 levels. Any further and it’s a pyramid.

1139. Comment by Hannah Henderson | July 27th, 2009

      We’ve won! The evil drooblidiots are gone! Maybe there was a co-ordinated police raid and they’ve all been arrested. We can only hope.

      droobli is an evil scam catering to human greed in its worst form.

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1141. Comment by OzzyBoy | July 27th, 2009

      Has anyone asked an obvious question: why on earth would someone of the calibre of Prof Dr Charles W. King (professor of marketing, University of Illinois – http://tigger.uic.edu/htbin/ldap_search.pl and author of “The New Professionals”), associate himself and co-found the GroobLi Academy with Bobby Jenson. Surely he would be compromising his academic reputation as a world authority on network marketing trends…?

1142. Comment by Only Facts | July 27th, 2009

      Ozzyboy
      Punch in Charles W King and see what you can find. In particular the cliam that he co-founded Playboy.

1143. Comment by OzzyBoy | July 27th, 2009

      Only Facts
      Is he the same Charles W. King who was an American trader in Canton, China, who is famous for having tried to open trade with Japan on the pretext of repatriating seven Japanese castaways, among them Otokichi, to their homeland in 1837?
      Just proving a point…
      We’re obviously not talking about the same person….there are quite a few people with this name and to deviate from my question just shows how shallow some of these ridiculous posts can be.
      Are you implying that the Professor in 1141 is not bona fide?

1144. Comment by Beavis | July 27th, 2009

      “Are you implying that the Professor in 1141 is not bona fide?”

      Does it matter? I’ll save everybody the mental strain on this one; “no”. Whether this professor is legit or a quack doesn’t change whether Droobli is a failing MLM. Keep you eye on the ball and attack Droobli for what it is (or more correctly, what it isn’t).

1145. Comment by OzzyBoy | July 28th, 2009

      OK guys, one more time, just because

      a. I don’t really have the time for this and
      b. You’re all barking up the wrong tree

      Here’s the question, as clearly as I can put it:

      Hundreds of the most popular brand retailers such as Macy’s, K-Mart, Target, JCPenney, Madison Avenue Mall et al are happy to be associated with GroobLi on their shopping portal.
      Have they all been duped ?
      What about the European ones ?
      Are the Germans so stupid to allow a scam to operate for so long from Berlin ?
      Oh, I almost forgot…what about the American Red Cross (Orange County) – have they also been scammed, or……perhaps someone has just come up with the most novel platform to raise money for charity…since the days of raffle tickets and endless door-knocking back when the earth was still FLAT….and lets not forget what happened to the poor dude who discovered that the earth was indeed…round

1146. Comment by Only Facts | July 28th, 2009

      Oz

      I would suggest that it is Charles King from the University of Illinois. The only coverage I could find on him was rate your Professor comments from the uni. have a look. And please, simply because you are a person of letters doesnt mean your right. If your from Australia you will know this already if not look up Dr Jayant Patel. Man of letters and a healer???????????????? Hows hes rep?

      Cant find enough about Mr King to make a call. However Bobby Jenson was happy to be involved with Santi Fuentes.
      It’s called guilt through association.

      Any news on Asia??????

1147. Comment by Only Facts | July 28th, 2009

      Oz
      Find the time, you really need too. look things up. Your last post just proved you not even looking at past posts.

1148. Comment by Hannah Henderson | July 28th, 2009

      Why don’t all the drooblidiots just go to another planet? The world doesn’t need a company built on thousands of completely untrained people. Their only characteristic is their horrible greed.

      Why can’t they go away?

      Can’t we just tell the Taliban that droobli tore up the Koran? Maybe that would get rid of them.

1149. Comment by Bob | July 28th, 2009

      Tick…tick….tick…tick. (mr. clock is saying)
      Are you guys going to go the way of people who listened to Amazon’s failures in the beginning? Yes Amazon was very questionable! (look at the history)

      Look at the site…stop looking here!
      Is it a good idea? do it!
      Is it not? watch!

1150. Comment by Only Facts | July 28th, 2009

      Bob
      Could you tell me what sites I can look at to see Amazons failures and questionable nature?

1151. Comment by Beavis | July 28th, 2009

      OzzyBoy said:

      “Hundreds of the most popular brand retailers such as Macy’s, K-Mart, Target, JCPenney, Madison Avenue Mall et al are happy to be associated with GroobLi on their shopping portal.”

      You mean the shopping mall they rent and slap their name on? Tell me, why would all of those companies be happy about being associated with a failing MLM? I think they were under the impression that they would be associated with credit unions and such; not you bunch of losers.

      Bob said:

      “Are you guys going to go the way of people who listened to Amazon’s failures in the beginning?”

      Amazon had a few more things going for it than Droobli; like a business plan that wasn’t written on the back of a cocktail napkin. No matter how hard you try, you cannot build the next eBay or Amazon with an unpopular auction format and a bunch of buzzwords. Really; I’m not making this up. It can’t be done. Not even with another launch. The next launch will turn out like the previous launch and the one before that; failure. I suppose you could rely on the “viral marketing campaign” to miraculously cause Droobli to explode across the world making you rich beyond your wildest dreams. Oh, wait, this “viral marketing campaign” was concocted by the same geniuses that created the Droobli business plan and orchestrated the failed launches. I know! You could all get together and have a “rah rah” meeting and get pumped up so that you can hit up your friends and relatives one more time to sign up. Go Droobli!

1152. Comment by Just A Joke | July 28th, 2009

      Beavis…Your a real tosser.. I find it hard to read this crap and believe one word that comes out of your stupid mouth.

      You slag so many companies down its embarrassing

1153. Comment by Only Facts | July 29th, 2009

      I am trying a new tactic. Will keep posting this message until I get an answer.

      1. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ASIA (CHINA?) LAUNCH???????
      2. DID EVERYONE INVOLVED GET A REFUND???????????
      3. WAS THE SOFTWARE TO BLAME, OR A BIG CORPORATE FAIL?????

      Simply questions. Ask your requitement officers. Ask your Droobli associates. Apperently Bobby Jenson was there. Ask him. Ask the Droobli offices, read the press ( there is none again) ask anyone.

      I have challenge to any and all Droobli people. Conatct your local press. Get them to do a story on this amazing business op.If it’s as good as you say it should be easy.

1154. Comment by Mo Howard | July 29th, 2009

      Why are we wasting time trying to convince Droobli people about anything? Their greed is disgusting. They’d cut strips of meat off their grandmothers and sell it as bacon if they could get away with it. They’re evil people who try to destroy their own families and neighborhoods by constant recruiting and constant talking about Droobli. They don’t care who they hurt in their lust for money. People mean nothing to these sick drooblidiots. People are just suckers to exploit. Listen to the way they talk on youtube etc about people who don’t sign up. They act like the people who exercise their free will and refuse to join the droobli gambling scam are losers. Droobli people make me sick. If I were king of the world I’d make droobli illegal and shot all the people associated with it. It’s an evil, malignant greed. Can’t these people establish real businesses?

      Droobli recruits from the pathetic wannabe real businessmen. Real business people would laugh at these creeps with their infantile talk of a business model that’s “exciting and fun”.

      Let’s just face reality here. Droobli people are just plastic business people. LIttle boys who imagine they’re business people because they have “their very own websites”. They are laughable jerks fueled by greed.

      When droobli fails they’ll be back selling amway, some kind of cancer-killing juice, health supplements, cosmetics, cookware, etc.

      Anything to make a buck off of someone else. They are leeches and parasites and society should rid itself of these evil people.

1155. Comment by Beavis | July 29th, 2009

      Just A Joke said:

      “Beavis…Your a real tosser.. I find it hard to read this crap and believe one word that comes out of your stupid mouth.

      You slag so many companies down its embarrassing”

      Thank you! You’re a regular Robert Frost (for those of you not familiar with Frost’s work he had a tremendous command of the English language; just like “Just A Joke” here).

1156. Comment by Bob | July 30th, 2009

      I am glad I was not an investor in Amazon.com….I would have bailed after not turning a profit for 6 years!

      here is one report:
      http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/Amazoncom-Inc-Company-History.html

      “Sometimes CRITICIZED for its focus on market share over profits, Amazon.com put investor fears to rest when it secured its first net profit during the fourth quarter of 2001.”

      How about being an amazon.com Business associate?

      “As Amazon.com ventured into 1998, the company continued to grow. By February, the Associates program had reached 30,000 members, who now earned up to 15 percent for recommending and selling books from their web sites. Four months later, the number of Associates had doubled to 60,000.”

      Associates program?

      Boy I wish I knew about that back when Amazon was in their formulation stage…When people were second guessing the biz model.

      That’s OK I know about the GroobLi associate program.
      We live and we learn…

1157. Comment by Only Facts | July 30th, 2009

      Thank you so much Bob for that link it really was an eye opener. Lets look at some points.

      Amazon; Jeff Bezos was the vice-president of the Wall St firm D.E. Shaw.

      Droobli; Bobby Jenson bankrupts 5 companies.

      Amazon; Went public 2 years after its debut.

      Droobli; After much hinting and speculating, Still waiting.

      Amazon; Cost nothing to look at the price of an item.

      Droobli; Sorry 80 cents to have a peek

      Amazon; After 3 years of proven succuss introduces the associates program, and they pay you

      Droobli; After 3 mins of conception asking up to thousands to be an associate on nothing more than self hype, and no actual product. Then will pay you if can convince others to do the same.

      Amazon; 4 years after debut founder becomes Time magazines “Person of the Year”

      Droobli; 3 + years Can’t get press to save their life so start there own magazine

      And ready for the Kicker

      The source of this information was the International Directory of Company Histories. Type in Droobli on that site. Sorry no matches.

      Amazon; How to start a successful on line shopping network.

      Droobli; How not to start a successful online shopping network.

      The sad part is you thought this would help Droobli. Also you will still not see trees.

1158. Comment by Bob | July 30th, 2009

      I believe the point was to show that even Amazon, and most other companies have “creative” start ups that are not always shared by everyone’s entheusiasm when they are happening.

      Jeff Bezos really capitalized, and is a smart guy.
      there will only be one Amazon.com There was no intention in comparing the from my end because they are quite different.
      And only time will tell.

      The fact is that there were a lot of people who invested millions who did not see a return for a long long time.
      This happens a lot.

      BTW, and respectfully, where do you get all this other stuff you are talking about if you are “only facts”

      I am looking at Droobli right now and see a different picture. I happen to be unbiased, and am not Bent on an opinion until I see the facts. I am looking for “Only Facts”

      As far as I can tell It looks like a very creative idea. There is nothing wrong with paying 80 cents to get the lowest price on an item… especially if 99% of the time it will be much much lower than that.

      I see that most people who post negative stuff in here seem driven by some kind of need to prove themselves right… you can tell because the anger comes out very clear.

      That is a dead give away to most people.

      A couple of Q’s:

      How do you know they tried to “launch” Asia?
      That would be a massive undertaking, and when it happens the whole planet will know.
      I think that is an error in Judgment…

      3 years?
      They have only been live for a year in Europe…and are now launching the US. I believe they went through some early development stages for several years before they came up with this model.

      Bankruptcy?

      And one more thing…why would they not pay people? They would have lawsuits everywhere.

1159. Comment by Beavis | July 30th, 2009

      Only Facts,

      Don’t you feel guilty when you spank them that hard? I mean, I know they are a combination of greed and gullibility but most of them fall into the federally protected classes (mentally challenged and/or generally “not quite right”). I’m not judging you; I was just wondering because I actually feel absolutely no remorse whatsoever. Well, OK, Gene is a little too “special” but Bob, while his defenses of Droobli have holes in them that you could drive a semi through, makes the added transgression of being smug when he spins the Droobli deceit. I do derive great satisfaction that he did put his hard earned money into the scam. I look at Droobli as partly scam and partly Darwin’s theory at work.

1160. Comment by Mo Howard | July 31st, 2009

      Bob. Hey Bob – Mr Jerk? You claim to be unbiased. Right? But you’re A GROOBLI “BUSINESS ASSOCIATE” right?

      And droobli is a pyramid scheme. Right? It depends on signing up more and more pathetic losers, wannabe businessmen to make profits. Right? So droobli hates any bad press like this site. Right?

      So Bob, my point is that you’re a liar and you aren’t unbiased. You have a vested interest in the right spin getting out there.

      Peoples – read my lips ………….. droobli is a ponzi sceme ……… it’s a scam that can’t work …………

1161. Comment by Johnny Johnson "Jonno" | July 31st, 2009

      why are you all so worried about droobli? These idiots will lose their money and friends. So what? Let ‘em. Those greedy crapheads deserve everything they’ll get with droobli. They are going to destroy their lives because they’ll just see everyone they’ll meet as potential lower levels of the pyramid to bring them money. droobli will fail and these idiots will reap what they sow – which is strife in their workplaces, families and churches.

      Let ‘em go. Don’t try to talk them out of it. Their greed goes right down to the marrow.

1162. Comment by Bob | July 31st, 2009

      Mo,
      Not yet…But I am planning on tremendous success, and can’t wait to get started.

      Payday is around the corner, but in the meantime there are many organizations who would love to make money. I have planned my action based on the real facts that I see.

      It does not “depend on signing other associates”
      It depends on finding people who would like to save money as customers, and, in my case find non profits who would like to give their members a way so save and give at the same time.

      I am particularly interested in the Partner Program.

      Some people are doing the business building thing and would rather get paid on many who are doing what they are doing too.

      Kind of like a real estate broker does… they get paid on many licensed real estate agents efforts.

      Most people when they look at this see it for what it is…value to the customer! It doesn’t take too much of an “AHA moment” to figure that out.

      This blog has convinced me to look hard at Droobli and I have made my decision.

      But I will not call you any names. You can enjoy your “self branding” along with the others who do so.

1163. Comment by Beavis | July 31st, 2009

      Bob said,
      “I have planned my action based on the real facts that I see.”

      Umm, Bob, why don’t you just plan your action on the real facts instead of the ones you choose to see? Really, it will work out better for you. You know the facts I’m talking about; the offshore banking relationships, the lack of any brick and morter location in the US, the shady backgrounds of the players, the repeated failures in the U.S. and Europe. Those facts would serve you quite well. “It doesn’t take too much of an “AHA moment” to figure that out.”

1164. Comment by Sick of it all | August 1st, 2009

      Droobli is about to launch in Australia & NZ in a few months.
      I have no interest in being against or for it. I wish all the best to any business or company starting out. It’s freaking hard to get respect. I have done my research & talked to a Droobli rep about the idea of it. Yes, weather your in or out…you have to admit the idea is a good one for the vendor & credit seller/member. As for the Buyer…thats there “Choice” how much they want to spend on a new item. Like anything out there you want to buy….simple.
      for example: My Grandfather will travel town to town, & shop to shop, spending time & fuel money to get the “Best” price on a power tool. He finds a place selling it for $10 less than anywhere else, he thinks he got “the” bargain & saved money….Fuel & travel expenses where $20. plus the time spent. Once again its the “Buyers” choice. You can only “scam” yourself…as he did & still does.

      So, As I read this entire page I am blown away at the ignorance & attitude of the people against it …Why…really…Why?
      I thought a “scam” was not really knowing what your are getting into & promised something in return Then losing your money in the process of being scammed ….So, I cant see how Droobli is a scam when its all out on the table for all to see. Know what I mean?
      Its Just that a few (of many) people…eg below.. really make me wonder what all the slamming is about… what are you trying to do here??? & Why so Psyched about it & What are YOU getting out of it???

      
      eaglescout – the cut and pasting of subjective & manipulated internet facts.

      Beavis – the sarcasm & lowly childish comments that go off topic regularly, & make little sense to the original question.

      Hannah Henderson – talking about Taliban getting “rid” of other people that are trying to make an easy living…as we all are.

      Mr Mo Howard – getting all moral & high on his horse, about just another company doing what all the other millions of Companies do. Greedy yes, how does a company grow without large greedy profits.

      …not to mention the others here, on some kind of dribbling angry mission. We need a balance of opinions, for sure….but a lot of this is just verbal diarrhoea.

      Do you want in… to make easy money…of course you do. Do you know how much mark-up you just paid for your Apple at the local
      Franchise Supermarket….no. Was it 25% or 100% maybe more…evil yes…but whats new!
      I have a little Ebay business. I love it. Threatened by Droobli… No. Just another company selling New products. Ebay will still dominate because that old second hand TV in the shed can be turned into cash. So calm down & let the games begin!

1165. Comment by Sick of it all | August 1st, 2009

      …just to clear it up, so I don’t get slammed by the simples…again, I have no interest in joining Droobli. And not really my thing to buy & sell Bran New Mass Produced items made in China….if i can avoid it.

1166. Comment by Sick of it all | August 1st, 2009

      …go second hand or local made & keep some money in ya pocket…or at least in your country.

1167. Comment by Johnny Johnson "Jonno" | August 1st, 2009

      Sic of it All is an idiot. A liar as well. Of course he’s a drooblidiot. Why else would he defend it? Plus he’s an educated moron as his poor spelling shows. Probably a high school dropout. Perfect for droobli.

      If droobli just sold products great. But it doesn’t. It has all this reverse auctions crap where you have to spend 80 cents just to check the price of things. No loser will buy that kind of crap. Droobli has all the MLM crap – the corny names for stuff – eg “business associates” “gold level” – all that kind of crap that makes we normal peaople want to vomit. It’s just kiddie stuff and the losers who join it deserve the no friends and family discord that comes with it.

      Go ahead join droobli. Join it if you want to be a social pariah. Also “Sick of it all”, not all of us seek an easy life. SOME OF US FEEL FOR THOSE WHO SUFFER IN THIS LIFE.

      Give your money away.

1168. Comment by Sanders Edwards | August 1st, 2009

      Droobli is an evil scam. Drooblidiots beware. Don’t come to my door or I’ll make damn sure you never visit another door. You guys are a disgrace to humanity.

1169. Comment by Beavis | August 1st, 2009

      “Sick Of It All” said:

      “Beavis – the sarcasm & lowly childish comments that go off topic regularly, & make little sense to the original question. ”

      “sarcasm” – oops, got me on that one
      “lowly childish comments” – blow me
      “go off topic regularly” – yeh, sure, whatever you say
      “make little sense to the original question” – there was an original question?

1170. Comment by Bob | August 1st, 2009

      Beavis
      I must admit you have helped me to see the light.

      You are right why would a European company have offshore banking relationships….how upsurd!

      You gave me an “AHA moment” on the Brick and Mortar locations in the US: They must be spending a ton of dough on shipping from Europe…Brilliant, I must admit I did not think of that.

      I know that I would never do business with people like Thomas Edison, who wasted all the time and ridicule to fail 10,000 times just to create a silly light bulb. Thanks for that analogy.

      Babe Ruth… what a silly nerd he was to believe that through all those strikeouts he could actually have the vision to achieve his record. Oh wait a minute… that’s because the spin factor was not there…if it was he might also be a transsexual, in the Mafia, and a wino.

      Thanks for the “AHA moment” help.

1171. Comment by Sanders Edwards | August 1st, 2009

      Oh man…… I’ve heard it all now. Droobli are the noble people on the planet to be compared with Edison and Babe Ruth. Why not Mother Theresa and Albert Schweitzer? Yeah DUbli people are amazing. Why not give them the Nobel Prize?

      Bob is another high school dropout. He can’t spell. “absurd” is the word you’re looking for moron.

      This is the point. Droobli preys on all these uneducated people like Gene, Bob and sick of it all. Tells them they can all be millionaires if they can con people into spending 80 cents to “check prices”.

      TO those who didn’t know, Droobli charges 80 cents to “check the price” of goods on auctions. I kid you not. It’s not a joke. And get this – droobli people say this makes auctions fun!!!!!! Ebay is switching to the idea right now !!!!!!!!

      You droobli guys are hilarious. The only people spending money on checking prices are poor suckers who’ve paid their BA money. No one outside of droobli is spending money there. It’s a house of cards that will collapse.

      People I try to explain droobli to just laugh. But they’re educated people not like the bozos and high school dropouts who are drawn to MLM schemes like droobli. You droobli people make me sick. Get off my planet and go somewhere else. Perhaps droobli people could be used to clear minefields in Afghanistan.

1172. Comment by Ern Foley | August 1st, 2009

      We need to revive lynch mobs and go after the drooblidiots. They’re not fit to live.

1173. Comment by Bob | August 1st, 2009

      Sanders,
      The laffin happins when peeple reed this stuff.

      I cud knot beleeve when I looked in hear the uther day and saw all this garbidge.

      Most peeple have a lyfe, and recugniz thu twisted upinyuns in hear. Hoo do yoo thinck yoo are kidding?

      Sinse yoo are the obveeus recognizabowl Droobli xpert
      When iz the moovee coming out?

1174. Comment by Beavis | August 1st, 2009

      Bob said:

      “You are right why would a European company have offshore banking relationships….how upsurd!”
      “Offshore banking” is a term used to describe banks in foreign countries with laws that protect the depositors identities and do not cooperate with foreign courts; it doesn’t mean the local bank for a European, fool.

      “You gave me an “AHA moment” on the Brick and Mortar locations in the US: They must be spending a ton of dough on shipping from Europe…Brilliant, I must admit I did not think of that.”

      Once again, you missed the point. It has nothing to do with shipping costs (a mailing center for hire does that for them). Its about them actually investing money which they most likely don’t have into infrastructure in a country that might decide they belong in one of their prisons.

      As far as analogies go, I think a dog paddling away in a circle is most accurate; lot’s of furious motion but no progress.

1175. Comment by Whistleblower | August 2nd, 2009

      Attention: Droobli is now moving into Australia. Heaps of idiots to suck in here.
      Just remember Drooblibots, that the Qld Fair Trading department and the Federal A.C.C.C and A.S.I.C are on to your scam.
      Great to see that Droobli.com completed 10 auctions into total the other day, big turnover fools. Your products are overpriced rubbish, ha ha.Should have spent more money on your scam website guys.
      Why still only 100 products in total on your European website, which has been operating for 3 years?? hahahhha.Less than 10 auctions a day hahahahaha.

      Expect National coverage within this week to blow your scam out of the water. Then i will come looking for you personally.

      Australian Avenger

1176. Comment by Beavis | August 2nd, 2009

      “Expect National coverage within this week”

      Unfortunately they don’t know how to market themselves well enough to get national coverage even if they got arrested. You must admit that the reason we pick on Droobli is because it is so blindingly obvious that it is a failure and we like to punish what few sheep still believe. Droobli has proven time and again that it isn’t newsworthy. This launch will turn out just like the other launches; a non-event. On the other hand, if your law enforcement does its job this could become very entertaining. Do they take criminals away in leg irons there like our feds do?

1177. Comment by Wes Steele - American Legion | August 2nd, 2009

      Bob’s post that I’ve copied below shows what morons these drooblidiots are. He was caught out on his poor spelling skills and now he types deliberate spelling mistakes. It’a like dealing with a grade 3 kid. Typical of the plastic businessmen these losers pretend to be. Here is Bob revealing his sensitive side:

      Sanders,
      The laffin happins when peeple reed this stuff.

      I cud knot beleeve when I looked in hear the uther day and saw all this garbidge.

      Most peeple have a lyfe, and recugniz thu twisted upinyuns in hear. Hoo do yoo thinck yoo are kidding?

      Sinse yoo are the obveeus recognizabowl Droobli xpert
      When iz the moovee coming out?

1178. Comment by Crane Benson | August 2nd, 2009

      You’re doing a great job whistleblower. Keep dishing it out to them. The drooblidiots are not wanted anywhere. I will not hesitate to attack anyone who tries to get me involved in droobli.

      You can’t mess around with this type of person. They are greedy and dumb. A bad combination.

      AS WELL THEY BELIEVE THEIR OWN HYPE. Droobli is a scam. A con. Stay away from it and stay away from droobli people. Don’t let them near your kids.

1179. Comment by Bob | August 2nd, 2009

      I just saw a typo on Fox News…Lets start a dialogue on that. Glad that never happened to anyone in this this blog. LOL

      I have a fun moment, and suddenly It is spun into a 3rd grader who got his feelings hurt.

      Examples keep pouring in to continually prove my earlier points. I believe the reason for this blog is to prove GroobLi is a scam or not.

      Thank you for helping me and many others with our decision to align with a company who’s only intention is to make it big by giving value to the customer, with a brilliant hybrid business model.

      If you want to make a point; submit your facts supported by hard evidence, not out of context emotional flairs. That is a dead give away.

      Most people, when the business is properly explained to them, say wow! Time to spread the good news, and when I get paid I am in.

      My uncle told me about this, and I am very glad he did.
      I have estimated that I will save a least 1000 dollars a year, and have fun doing it. And get paid having fun doing it!

      When you saw Jurrasic Park for the first time, did the maker of the movie pay you to tell all your friends? Viral marketing my friends! (For them)

      Only I will get paid to tell my friends. And my friends (customers) will get paid for telling their friends and so-on.

      Did you not notice that the customer gets free credits by telling their friends? This can go on indefinitely.

      There is no cost to be a customer, they love it and pass it on. Guess what? I will get paid, for my marketing efforts, and you will think of something else to argue about.

      Question? how come there are only a handful of angry, people posting negative garbage in here, when there are millions of happy customers in Europe, tens of thousands of associates?

      Would there not be more than just a few people posting negative stuff if all you say were true?

1180. Comment by eaglescout | August 2nd, 2009

      Dear Bob,

      Fox News deliberately misspells R for Republican with D for Democrat. But that’s not important.

      How do you rationalize joining an organization literally run by criminals?

1181. Comment by Beavis | August 2nd, 2009

      Bob said,

      “Question? how come there are only a handful of angry, people posting negative garbage in here, when there are millions of happy customers in Europe, tens of thousands of associates?”

      and many tens of auctions. Oh, wait, that doesn’t add up.

1182. Comment by eaglescout | August 2nd, 2009

      “When you saw Jurrasic Park for the first time, did the maker of the movie pay you to tell all your friends? Viral marketing my friends! (For them)”

      I was able to watch the Jurassic Park trailer for free; it didn’t cost me $3199, and I didn’t have to gamble to actually watch the movie.

      If Hollywood adopted the GroobLi model, you’d spend all day gambling money away, wondering if you get to watch Jurassic Park this month, or this year.

1183. Comment by Beavis | August 2nd, 2009

      The only thing worse than a Droobli sheep is “Bob the Noisy Droobli Sheep”. Gee, maybe Droobli should get a few sheep dolls made based on this and sell them. You squeeze it and it says “brilliant concept”, “bigger than eBay”, “its fun!” and “you really want a Gold Level membership, don’t you?”.

1184. Comment by Bob | August 2nd, 2009

      Again Eaglescout;
      There is no cost to become a customer…zilch.
      If the customer wants to buy something in the auctions… they buy a credit, and do so.
      They will always save much more than 80 cents when that happens.

      On the other hand if someone wants a GroobLi E-Store (portal); they pay $175 for the annual license.
      Then they get to decide which profit margin to make, based on what they can afford.
      The more they buy the bigger the discount.

      The lowest option costs about as much as my cable TV bill. Very inexpensive.

      Here’s a kicker for ya:
      When the inventory (credits) are retailed to the customer the associate gets ALL of that back…perhaps you did not know.
      Yes you get your money back….
      The associate simply chooses how many of those credits they would like to use as advertising (given as gifts) to get the initial customer base.

      Upon launch the credits are given by the millions to the customer base (which is what gets the auctions going in the first place Beavis).
      By the way; that is starting in August (now), as you will see.
      There are many ways to advertise…most of which are much more expensive, (and less effective).

      I saw it when it was explained to me properly, and most people do.
      Your opinionated nature may always prevent you from seeing it.
      (based on what is written in this blog, and your apparent dislike for Fox News).

      And what criminals? You have not made your case.

1185. Comment by jim amax | August 2nd, 2009

      Duh! You guys are pathetic! Lets get a friggin life here!

1186. Comment by Beavis | August 2nd, 2009

      Bob the Noisy Sheep said:

      “If the customer wants to buy something in the auctions… they buy a credit, and do so.
      They will always save much more than 80 cents when that happens.”

      No, they won’t “always save”. In fact, the odds are strongly against them saving. You don’t understand your own product or the odds involved (no surprise from anybody).

      “Upon launch the credits are given by the millions to the customer base (which is what gets the auctions going in the first place Beavis).
      By the way; that is starting in August (now), as you will see.”

      I can’t wait! Another “launch”!

1187. Comment by Ern Foley | August 3rd, 2009

      Bob is on acid. He’s amazing. The lies are incredible. Droobli is a pyramid scheme according to Bob’s own words. He says he will make more money if he cons others to join. Take your droobli to some countries Bob and you’ll be arrested. Pyramid schemes are illegal in many countries.

      Bob you have no friends. When they see you coming spouting your greedy droobli crap, they’ll start running. You aren’t doing people a favor to join your ponzi scheme.

1188. Comment by Ern Foley | August 3rd, 2009

      This is freaky. Bob uses all the phrases that the others do. Spending 80 cents just to catch a price becomes “exciting” in drooblispeak.

      Absolute losers all of them. Dubi people are morons. Worse than serial killers.

1189. Comment by Bob | August 3rd, 2009

      Beavis,
      That’s exactly what you refuse to understand…the customer will always save.

      The word “always” is what it is.
      There is no way to twist it.

      As a matter of fact if the customer can show that the item can be purchased for less anywhere on the internet, GroobLi will refund the difference, plus 10% of the difference. Read the “Low Price Guarantee”

      Ern,
      People who read the directions on the site tend to use the same phrases

      And the pyramid scheme thing:
      They are illegal in the US too if you haven’t noticed

1190. Comment by eaglescout | August 3rd, 2009

      Bob,

      “And what criminals? You have not made your case.”

      Read the article.

1191. Comment by Robbie | August 3rd, 2009

      “Droobli is about to launch in Australia & NZ in a few months.”

      I think this hasn’t been addressed much here. Why on earth would a company enter new markets not having made any impact whatsoever on any of the previous markets? Bob, you’re a liar, Droobli is practically unknown in Europe. Millions of customers? Not in a million years. Any serious company would build up their business on one market, wait and see if they succeed, then possibly gradually move on to foreign markets. Ebay took several years to even cross the American border. How come a company is “progressing” so quickly without any significant growth? This doesn’t make any sense, unless….they’re exploiting market after market locust-style (even if they’re a rather small swarm..) Since this is their primary scheme, I would agree that Droobli is probably not a failure. Some people most probably got rich and are getting richer. To do so, they had to sell their conscience first, so they don’t care about all the Genes and Bobs.
      Just one of the many facts indicating that something might actually be rotten in the State of Denmark.

1192. Comment by Bob | August 3rd, 2009

      Robbie,
      At the company’s site, http://www.Drooblinetwork.com on the “Residual Income” page (a little more than half-way down the page in the paragraphs under the customer chart and math), you can see “… our customer to associate ratio is among the highest in the industry, a staggering 72:1 ratio.” Also, at:
      http://www.drooblinetwork.com/1-22/e-conomy_booming posted April 1, 2009, the second-to-last paragraph says, “GroobLi.com’s select test market in Europe saw 2.3 million customers come in just eight months.”

      They had to reach a million customers before they were able to have the agreement with Kelkoo (a yahoo partner)
      Europe’s largest shopping search engine.

1193. Comment by Bob | August 3rd, 2009

      Eaglescout,
      I need a credible source.

1194. Comment by Only Facts | August 3rd, 2009

      Bob
      Why is it so important for you have have a “credible source” now? Not one of you arguments to date have come from a “credible source”. Nothing from Droobli comes from a “credible source”, thats the whole point.

      All you arguments have been addressed before. We have it over and over because thats all Droobli can say.

      Bob. Isnt there one thing you have read here that makes you question? If not it’s time for you to move on pal. You will never convince those of us that have bothered to conduct research outside of the Droobli circle, that this is a good idea using old information, figures and statistics that can not be independently verified.

1195. Comment by Only Facts | August 3rd, 2009

      Also Bob
      From what I can find out, Kelkoo is a Price Comparison site owed by Jamplant. Yahoo bought it in 2004 for 450 million Euros then sold it in 2008 for 100 million Euros. They sell advertising on their site. Is this the conection with Droobli??

1196. Comment by Gene | August 3rd, 2009

      AS I figured only facts you’ve come out of the closet your just a basher parrot as I figured and were never ever really interested in the company. Were you? Just answer my question. The company sells products and gets them to the public in a timely fashion. They also pay their associates. People save money. That’s what I’m talken about. So go to sleep O F. You have no leg to stand on.

1197. Comment by Beavis | August 3rd, 2009

      OK, I’m going to do it. I’m going to break the news that everybody has been holding back on:

      Gene, Bob, you are not at the top of the pyramid; you’re not even in the middle. You are the base of the pyramid; the stalwart wannabes that will pimp this thing till the doors close. . . and then some. You have just enough gray matter to understand the MLM theory when someone with a white board and microphone explains it to you. You do not possess the brain power to question the MLM about weaknesses. You want to believe so bad that you ignore the facts; the ones that perforate the Droobli business plan, expose the failures of Droobli and accurately describe droobli corporate behavior as being nefarious bordering on criminal. You aren’t just gullible, you are so pathetic that sheep are insulted by me calling you sheep.

1198. Comment by Gene | August 3rd, 2009

      Robbie there ya go the pot calling the kettle black.

      Thanks because that is exactly what they have done in Germany but we just have a disagreement if that in fact took place. I say it did and I say you are a liar. Your’re just like a virus in a computer. You have the facts all screw up. You need some virus protection.

1199. Comment by eaglescout | August 3rd, 2009

      Bob, how about the AMF, or the Australian government as a credible source…

      As Robbie points out, you seem to have a double standard, since you appear to have a lot of faith in GroobLi despite the fact that they have not been featured once in the regular press, despite the fact that they can’t even get an article on Wikipedia.

      Either way, what kind of credible source would convince you? You are simply “moving the goalposts”.

1200. Comment by Gene | August 3rd, 2009

      And Beavis Beavis Beavis. Talking about gray matter you will never convince anyone you have any. You continue your Parroting to blast something you have not really any experience in. You have never experienced an order delivered right to your door or money in your back office rewarding your good efforts in providing a service for the public. Have you ever even purchased anything online. Come now answer my question? We can call the company a mom and pop store sort of online feel with the large mall capability. Get started today without delay or you miss out. It doesn’t have to be you know.
      Sure we’re still in the building stage. I’m hanging in there and for good reason. All your lies and innuendos won’t change a thing.
      I’ll play this game a bit again with you blogsters. But not too long. I have to provide for my kids college education. Am I making you any money yet eagle? Work’em over Bob you’re doing great!

1201. Comment by Gene | August 3rd, 2009

      Eagle, moving the goal posts give me a break. You’re trying to create a game and you have no rules. But the stakes are high it seems for you. Are you making any money on this blog?
      Could you tell me why the company has to be featured in the press? Does the press lend any credibility? An article in wickedapedia oh and that is sooooo credible. What am I doing here with such no accounts? Ah well just for fun. Right eagle?
      I wish you could hear me laugh. LOL isn’t enough. And these are credible sources. Looks like you’ve got your work cut out for you Bob.

1202. Comment by Bob | August 3rd, 2009

      Darn I wanted post # 1200 Gene!
      (Just kidding)

      Eaglescout:
      What about the AMF?
      There is no page there for one.

      All of your arguments are based on bobbing for apples on the internet. They haven’t proved your position…I never judge based on out of context snapshots, and homespun assertions.

      I am only interested in the facts.

      The site speaks for itself. The company is very innovative, and is poised to become a major portal whether we like it or not.

      The good thing is so many people will like it because of what it offers them in terms of value, that anyone with half a brain can see it for what it is.

      I look forward to many years of success with this amazing company…and choose to benefit from it as well.

      Why? Because I saw the site…it was obvious. The same reason most people see it for what it truly is.

      I would be interested to know why you are so negative about it. There is a life experience story behind everyone, and a reason they are who they are.

      There are a lot of things people can truly be warned about in this world, and I see that you have a few of them listed.

      You must have a bad experience with Network Marketing or know someone who has to use the word pyramid all the time. That is an indicator of the stigma attached to the industry (which GroobLi is not by the way, it is a multi-layered hybrid business model)

      Continue to refine your gifts and they would be much more welcome, and useful.

      Why waste what you do on a dead end topic that is baseless, and exposes your bias?

1203. Comment by eaglescout | August 3rd, 2009

      Bob, what exactly do you object to in the article?

1204. Comment by Beavis | August 3rd, 2009

      Eaglscout,

      What happens when you cross a parrot with a sheep? A Drooblidiot (and yes, it is as ugly and annoying as it sounds).

1205. Comment by Chad | August 3rd, 2009

      Why has Droobli used the Google colours for its logo?

1206. Comment by Gene | August 4th, 2009

      EAgle stop editing me.

1207. Comment by Robbie | August 4th, 2009

      #1192 is actually too dumb to even be diginified with a reply. Wow, if Droobli says so, then obviously it must be the truth and it’s perfectly safe to invest in them. DUH!

      If Droobli is interested in reaching people, what better way is there than through press? The point is: The press would also evaluate them and if the only kind of press you can expect is negative press, and you damn well know it, you avoid it. And you create your own press on your own portals, because, unlikely as it might seem to anyone with a sane mind, some will buy it hook, line and sinker.
      Apart from the lack of any press, Droobli is not creating any buzz at all on a word-of-mouth basis here in Germany. With millions of customers there should be some discussions on Internet boards, some customer reviews, some talk on e-commerce related web sites? Nothing. They’re practically non-existent. As they are in the US, I might add. This site is among the first that come up when you search for Droobli. And yet only a handful of Drooblidiots are taking part in this discussion? And again: Neither serious press, nor any other discussions or reviews which would indicate any interest in Droobli.

1208. Comment by Gene | August 4th, 2009

      The only negative press Robbie is you and your crony blogsters/Parrots with Beav at the head, trying to press your lame brain ideas here.
      You’re not finding any customer complains are you? Silence is golden. Isn’t it deafening? Listen deftly! That should

      tell you a little bit shouldn’t it. Press that! Show us some complains. And please not your dreamed up fantasies.

      It’s business as usual with the company. People get their products in a timely fashion and associates make money.

      I’m here with intelligence for your mind. Never mind. I don’t want to give you too much credit.

1209. Comment by Only Facts | August 4th, 2009

      Oh Gene………….
      You just make it too easy.
      There’s no need for anyone to reply.

      Eagle.
      Please delete every post except for Gene. Let the world see the business calibre of a successful Droobli associate.

      Then our work is done!
      Gene we thank you.

1210. Comment by Gene | August 4th, 2009

      Your very welcome know little!

1211. Comment by Gene | August 4th, 2009

      And to think no name, no know little, no caliber. No credibility.
      I rest.

1212. Comment by Robbie | August 5th, 2009

      Gene,
      not that I expected any insight or common sense from you, but you could at least TRY to address the issues I wrote about and come up with something better than your “silence is golden” gibberish. In case you have some serious reading/comprehending problems (which I don’t believe, I think you’re just evasive), I didn’t claim there were complaints all over the Internet (although I did actually find some negative opinions on German web sites, all of them dated and no new ones appearing, since no one is interested in Droobli), I said there were practically NO opinions at all about a company claiming to have millions of customers and to be a huge success. I know you’ll never admit to finding this highly suspicious and you’ll keep up your little condescending act, but that only shows your desperation..

1213. Comment by Ern Foley | August 5th, 2009

      The drooblidiots are back and no, they haven’t killed themselves and done the world a favor. Droobli is a stinking rotten con. It’s a scam that needs greedy people like Gene (the uneducated hillbilly Military MP) and Bob (“Mr I would sell my wife and kids to make a buck”).

      And what was quoted earlier? 72 Droobli customers for every Business Associate????????? Now come on – Even Gene and Bob know that’s a lie. I will put the figure at 3 tops. Droobli hasn’t worked in the US and Europe and it won’t work in Australia.

      There are already enough stores around the world and online auction sites. Droobli is totally unnecessary. It doesn’t produce anything or seek to make the world a better place.

      Ignore me. Remember – you could be platinum in two months. Or earn money while you sleep. No my friends, Droobli is a ridiculous house of cards that is falling over even as we speak. Get out while you still have some dignity left.

1214. Comment by Ern Foley | August 5th, 2009

      And Gene – you big half-wit, the really hard spelling word you constantly miss is “you’re”. Short for you are. What a moron!!!

1215. Comment by Martin | August 5th, 2009

      For Bob…

      You pointed to the quote of…

      “GroobLi.com’s select test market in Europe saw 2.3 million customers come in just eight months.”

      If you read this very, very literally you will realize that it does NOT say that those customers were buying at or through GroobLi.com.

      The customers “came” to where? Maybe eBay, because the numbers would probably fit.

      This type of statement would then be technically true. They could be ‘testing’ the market by finding statistics on how many people used online auctions, for example.

      You can find similar ways to squirm around the 72:1 customer:associate ratio. For example what if ‘customers’ included anyone who used a free credit, or even everyone who was merely sent a free credit that they COULD use on GroobLi.

1216. Comment by Beavis | August 5th, 2009

      “You can find similar ways to squirm around the 72:1 customer”

      Or, you could just lie your ass off because the Genes and Bobs of the world believe everything you say. You can even say thing ridiculous as:

      “Bigger than eBay”
      “Bigger than Google”

      Or my all time favorite:

      “Bigger than eBay and Google!”

      They even ask the Drooblidiots to invest in Droobli by sending money to their off-shore account and tell them to expect no liquidity for years. It truly, without question, takes a real fool to believe this.

1217. Comment by eaglescout | August 5th, 2009

      Gene, if I were editing your posts I’d help you sound more intelligent, so we could have a real discussion.

1218. Comment by Gene | August 5th, 2009

      But eagle you couldn’t if you tired you are limited sorry to say.

1219. Comment by Gene | August 5th, 2009

      Look up the word see if it applies Ern you no wit.

1220. Comment by Gene | August 5th, 2009

      Robbie you didn’t have an argument. Unless you’re talking to yourself.

1221. Comment by Gene | August 5th, 2009

      The company sells products people get good deals and associates make money. Could someone tell me the definition of greed? Some of you spin dopes don’t know what it means.

1222. Comment by Gene | August 5th, 2009

      Ern if I want to write your for your’re what’s it to you anyway? I suppose you are or You’re an English freak and you have a pet peeve on miss used words. I also should have said the company has no complaints instead of complains. So What!
      I am not writing to any scolars here any who.

1223. Comment by Beavis | August 5th, 2009

      My God, Gene’s mental faculties are eroding before our eyes! I can hardly decipher his posts.

1224. Comment by Gene | August 6th, 2009

      Beav come on you expect anyone to take you seriously now? Please. All you do is bad mouth every serious business associate that comes on here without any relevant dialogue but to bemoan their efforts to do business. Get a life man.

1225. Comment by Robbie | August 6th, 2009

      “Robbie you didn’t have an argument.”

      The least you could do, if you’re not able to come up with any rebuttal, is to remain silent (and ashamed), instead of publicly making a total dumbshit of your miserable self. Remember: Silence is golden. And Droobli is kinda brownish.

1226. Comment by Bob | August 6th, 2009

      This is a like a reality show on the internet.
      When is the actual TV event going to take place?

      If you have a prime time special with everyone meeting for the first time and actually talking face to face that would be very interesting.

      You will make more money than you are by driving traffic to this site, although you are doing quite well on that too.

      The strong negative opinions from a few people here is obvious evidence to most that this is a cesspool.

      It is a very serious matter reaping financial benefit by taking advantage of people seeking information about GroobLi on the internet…attempting to malign a good company with out of context, and biased information is like walking on thin ice. I would advise you to be careful.

      On topic:
      For those who come to this site because you actually need info simply go the the corporate sites, that is the only official place to get credible Droobli information. Not here.

      Here are 3 of them:

      http://www.Droobli.com
      http://www.DroobliNetwork.com
      http://www.GroobLiPartner.com

      That was all I needed to make a decision after reading some of this stuff…it spoke for itself.

      GroobLi offers a value based proposition to every customer…period. People love to pay less, and many times pay much much less. That is exciting!

      Get back with the person who told you about Droobli.
      I’m glad I did.

1227. Comment by Bob | August 6th, 2009

      Just to prove a point…look at the banner ad below this message. It is a marketing system to help people in their MLM business. Why would the owners of this site allow a conflict of interest? MLM? Home based Biz? Pyramids? Oh no!!!

      Think about it.
      Because there is money involved.

      This particular company is probably one of the better ones in that market.

      No I have no affiliation with it.
      People are looking for ways to be successful in their main businesses and it is a huge market selling people systems to help them to do that.

      There are also a lot of bad companies in that market out there.

      Again the one below looks OK to me, it is a stay at home mom who deserves to make it. She has an affiliation with a “system”.

      I don’t know what her main Biz is, she probably has tried a few.

      Droobli is a business that pays you $$$ on thousands of people who love to save money online…I kinda like that!

      And you don’t even need a “system” like below…I kinda like that even more.

1228. Comment by Robbie | August 6th, 2009

      D’oh, I just had a deja vu! Some months ago I wrote this:

      “Your total lack of arguments and your monotonous advertising routine are beginning to have me believe you’re just a badly programmed bot. I’ll keep an eye on the thread, but a discussion with a Drooblidiot is apparently as pointless as it is tiresome.”

      Really, there’s no sense. Bob’s last contributions are so utterly, hilariously preposterous, he can only be a desperate Drooblidiot on a last chance idiot hunt, or an incredibly gullible simpleton. Still I can’t decide about my favorite part. Is it A) “The strong negative opinions from a few people here is obvious evidence to most that this is a cesspool.” B) “I would advise you to be careful.” or C) “No I have no affiliation with it.” That’s a tough one!

1229. Comment by Only Facts | August 6th, 2009

      Morning Bob.

      Firstly, as I have stated before I don’t care how much money Eagle makes from this site. In fact I hope it’s a lot. The simply fact is it cost me nothing to look at the site or participate. I am not against people making money. I am against people making money at the cost of others. Even though they’re are several occasions, I believe, this happens the most basic is that, for one person to win an auction many must loose their money. Now before anyone brings this up again, YES, I do participate in raffles and lotteries. However as these are recognised forms of gambling they are heavily regulated, fully transparent and accountable. Droobli is not.

      You state in post #1226 that “……the only official place to get credible Droobli information”. then supply three Droobli sites. Bob this is the whole point. It is like asking the defendant during a trail to enter a plea. He pleads innocent. So the trail is ended. He must be innocent because he said so. I’m sorry for the sarcasm but it really is as simple as that. I have looked at these sites and basically been told nothing. Very rarely they offer statistics or facts, and when they do there is absolutely no source. Any high school student will tell you, when compiling an easy using facts and or statistics, you must demonstrate the source for verification. This is what I pay attention to on this site. Links that you can verify things from different sources. I don’t pay attention to rumour. I will however ask questions. If you can supply the information without sending me to a Droobli site, I will listen.

      Go to Drooblinetwork.com click on Who is Droobli, the the Droobli story. First you will see Who is Droobli. What follows tells you what Droobli is not who. There is no mention of their huge success in Europe. This in it self is odd, or intentional. Look under News or Press. There is absolutely no mention of the $25,000.00 bike being sold for $4000.00. Surely any company that managed to pull off such a coup, let alone one that is struggling to prove it’s legitimacy, would trumpet this achievement from the roof tops. At best this is very, very poor marketing along with the site not updated since April/May.

1230. Comment by Nikki | August 6th, 2009

      To All those immature people with no common sense…. Why dont you look up Denmark white/yellow pages like I did and search Droobli there you will find the Droobli Action Site for Europe and a lot of info on Droobli in English and Danish which have alot of great things to say about Droobli on it and how exciting it is….. Or you could just get a life and stop insulting others…

1231. Comment by Gene | August 6th, 2009

      So that’s it you want us to give merchandize away Spin dope? Otherwise I’d be making money off of someone.

      Well we do offer free credits to try out the auctions. There ya go supporting the press again. I tell you there are

      no complaints from customer. At least that I know of O F spin dope. Why is it you don’t give your name? So you gamble in the lotteries.

      I don’t believe I have ever ever bought into that. I never bought a ticket. I work hard for my money.

      Do you smoke too? Do you gamble with your health? How successful does the German market have to be for the press to take note? Maybe you should consider that. Come on only facts you’re not really interested in joining. All you want to do is hurt our business.

      Facts and or statistics. People buy products, get good deals who are happy customers and associates make a lot of money. Something I missed.

1232. Comment by Beavis | August 6th, 2009

      You’re right Nikki; after reading all of that information I’m ready to send thousands of dollars of my hard earned money to an offshore account owned by a privately held corporation with no physical presence in the North American continent all because of the unsubstantiated hype that a bunch of them wrote. Damn the facts and the complete lack of accountability; I’ll be rich beyond my wildest dreams in six months with little or no effort thanks to this hugely overlooked opportunity to cash on on the Internet phenomenon. TOKENS,TOKENS ANYONE?

1233. Comment by Ern Foley | August 7th, 2009

      Nikki is another drooblidiot. She actually believes the droobli websites are going to give unbiased information about droobli.

      Nikki, how many times have you clicked to check the price at a droobli auction? That is how many times have you spent 80 cents to check a price? How much money have you spent?

      How’s your $4000 Harley or your $10 Rolex? You didn’t win any of those? Keep spending your 80 cents a time. You’ll win one day. It’ll cost you $100 000 but you’ll get something one day.

      Now that’s what I call exciting. It’s exciting to think how close to bankrupt you’ll get trying to win a droobli auction. Sound business model my butt!

1234. Comment by Durango Mustafa | August 7th, 2009

      I listen to all rubbish here. Droobli took my money. They no care I new here. THEY SAY FIND YOUR PEOPLE HERE AND GET THEM TO PAY. I no like my droobli advisor. he says buy more credits. Noew i have no money. i kill droobli.

1235. Comment by Only Facts | August 7th, 2009

      Nikki
      Can you post the links to these sites please. And are you saying Droobli Denmark did not go Bankrupt?

1236. Comment by Beavis | August 7th, 2009

      Ern Foley,

      You are going to have to back off on explaining how the people who don’t win the auction incur a loss and it is not all about the winners; you are confusing Gene to the point that his head might explode.

1237. Comment by ''Red" Scraggs | August 8th, 2009

      I’ve enjoyed reading this site. The droobli people are uneducated morons. The ’spin’ being put on this ‘exciting new concept of reverse auctions’ is amazing.

      Droobli is nothing more than the old shell game. It’s just gambling and the idiotic droobli people are just blinded by their greed. They just can’t admit the sad fact that the whole world knows. Anyone who would pay 80 cents to check the price of something put up at auction is a complete moron.

      Droobli people are you listening? You’re hopeless morons who have been sucked into something that is so stupid even a child would laugh at it.

      The droobli people have dazzled you with words that make “reverse auctions” sound like “a sound business model”. It’s not. Why don’t you get it? You hopeless losers !!!!

1238. Comment by Beavis | August 8th, 2009

      I’m getting bored. When is the next “launch” of the next phase of Droobli’s master plan; you know, the thing that is going to make the concept explode worldwide? The European market is a bust; the US market vacillates between 5 and 15 “successful” auctions per day; the viral marketing campaign is a “no show”; the shopping mall (you remember the uber hyped shopping mall) is a yawner. I think the only thing Droobli could do to generate some interest is if Bobby Jensen were to wrap a Ferrari around a light pole. If you Drooblidiots could recruit enough he could get one. Throw in some coke, a couple of hookers combined with a spectacular wreck (like the guy that split his Ferrari in two) and Droobli would be on the map – for a week. There; now you have a workable plan. Wasn’t that easy?

1239. Comment by Mort Allison | August 8th, 2009

      Calling all drooblidiots!!!!! Here’s an idea …. Why not work for a living ????? Don’t get paid for sleeping which is the droobli way. What about actual work? New concept ????? Try it you lazy people.

1240. Comment by Beavis | August 9th, 2009

      Mort Allison,

      They are not entirely lazy. They had to work hard for the money they are squandering on Droobli Gold level memberships (renewable every year for only $3,199). They are, however, stupid

1241. Comment by Jason Switzer | August 9th, 2009

      I am not here to call anyone names or be inmature. I just want to share the information that has been given to me about the future of Droobli.

      November 2009, GroobLi will become the worlds first Online Shopping Global Platform (eBay & Amazon has not done this)
      - each Country will have 150 basic products on the Auctions (necessity type products), 300 will be added to each country that has leaders

      2nd Quarter 2010, GroobLi will add more languags to the droobli.com and drooblinetwork.com site which currently have 4 languages

      September 2009, GroobLi will be opening an actual office in Miami

      September 2009, there will be an updated droobli.com Shopping Site (featuring the Xpress, Unique Bid and Shopping Mall site)

      November 2009, GroobLi will launch in the Pacific Rim

      September 2009, GroobLi will launch in Australia & New Zealand

      September 2009, GroobLi will open the “GroobLi Academy”, it will be a virtual academy with a structured education for all BA’s

      The GroobLi Landing Page video will be available in Spanish & German next week

      More products being added to the Unique Bid at the end of August

      How a Global Online Shopping Platform will help the USA & all new countries being launched going forward.

      1) The Global platform will allow a customer in Japan to bid/check the price on the same item on auction as a customer in California.

      2) Obviosuly, prices of products on Auction will go down much much faster since ALL customers worldwide will be using the same shopping site. The USA customer base will grow much faster due to all new customers finding low price after low price, same goes for all new countries going forward such as Australia, Pacific Rim & South America

      3) In the USA today we have over 420,000 customer and about 3 million customers in Europe. (with a much higher % of customers in Europe shopping on the site on a weekly basis). If the transition was done today, our customers would be bidding against almost 3.5 million more active customers instead of just the current U.S. customer base.

      4) The amount of products on the Unique bid and Express auction in the U.S. will go up dramtically since the Global consumer base calls for it. As well we will see an increase of more high ticket items added to the site (more cars etc….)

      Key Points about The GroobLi Academy that goes live September 2009
      1) The structured education- Will provide specific training to each BA depending on their rank with GroobLi.
      2) After each training, there is a Test that must be passed to move on to the next level
      -this will help ensure ALL BA’s are being trained properly
      3) A worksheet is provided to make sure each Business Associate is reaching out to their entire Network of friends, family member, co-workers etc….

      Key Points about the GroobLi Office opening in Miami September 2009
      1) There will be a phone line the BA’s, Partners and customers can call in to instead of only being able to use the Support Ticketing system
      2) We will be dealing with a Support Staff thats first language is English
      3) Of course, having an actual office in America will help answer the question from current & prospective BA’s/Customers about where GroobLi is located in the U.S.

      In order to raise Public awareness for GroobLi throughout the world, GroobLi will go Public in the next 18 months.
      (Going Public is the best marketing/advertising available)

      I hope that all this information is accurate. Thank you all for your time.

1242. Comment by Beavis | August 9th, 2009

      Let’s do some fun math kids! Mr. Jason Switzer has a company that claims it has 420,000 US customers. His business sells on average, less than 10 items per day. Rounding up to ten items per day, how many years would it take for Mr. Jason Switzer’s company to sell to 420,000 customers?

      Let’s do the math:

      365 days in a year times 10 sales per day equals 3,650 sales. Divide 420,000 customers by 3,650 sales equals approximately 115 years. But Mr. Jason Switzer’s company has only been fully operating in the US since it’s “launch” in October of 2008.

      Mr. Jason Switzer’s figures are either:

      A. bullshit
      B. has a huge base of unsuccessful bidders (we’ll call them “losers”)
      C. bullshit
      D. came from Bizarro World (where everything is backwards or opposite)

      I can’t believe how mind numbingly stupid you Drooblidiots are. Do any of you own a calculator? Do you not question anything that Droobli tells you? Please don’t bother to answer; these questions are purely rhetorical in nature and are meant only to highlight the blindingly apparent (that being, society has been way to proactive in interfering with natural selection).

1243. Comment by Beavis | August 9th, 2009

      Mr. Jason Switzer said:
      “In the USA today we have over 420,000 customer and about 3 million customers in Europe. (with a much higher % of customers in Europe shopping on the site on a weekly basis). If the transition was done today, our customers would be bidding against almost 3.5 million more active customers instead of just the current U.S. customer base.”

      Droobli had two successful European auctions on 8/6/09. 3 million “active” customers? I don’t think we need to bother running the calculations to figure out these figures are being pulled out of somebody’s ass. The question is, who would be such a fool to actually believe this? I mean really; you’d have to be a card carrying moron to think that this is true.

      Oh, well; good thing all of the rest of his post is the Gospel truth. I can’t wait for all of the new “launches”!

1244. Comment by Martin | August 9th, 2009

      I got curious and checked their ‘reverse’ auctions numbers.

      Completed Auctions for the week of Aug 1-7, 2009 in us.droobli.com …

      Xpress – 82 – sorry Beavis, that’s almost 12 a day.
      http://us.droobli.com/Completed-auctions__xpress_ended.html
      ZerO – 11
      Unique Bid – 0

      Here is Europe – the more matured market. See ‘Jason’ above saying “about 3 million customers in Europe”.

      Completed auctions for ALL of July 2009 in eu.droobli.com …
      Xpress – 48
      ZerO – 6
      Unique Bid – 56

      There are only 3 months left to get this flowing, so that “November 2009, GroobLi will become the worlds first Online Shopping Global Platform”.

1245. Comment by Undercover Beavis | August 9th, 2009

      “Xpress – 82 – sorry Beavis, that’s almost 12 a day.”

      The numbers are up as Droobli grows exponentially. The numbers in the 4th quarter of ‘08 and the first quarter of ‘09 were typically below ten successful auctions per day. I firmly believe with all of the fantastic new growth coming to Droobli they will consistently average over ten per day; maybe even fifteen in the US. After all, they do have over 420,000 customers. Go Droobli!

      And I feel Droobli will do great in the third world markets based on this:

      “November 2009, GroobLi will become the worlds first Online Shopping Global Platform (eBay & Amazon has not done this)
      - each Country will have 150 basic products on the Auctions (necessity type products), 300 will be added to each country that has leaders”

      If you are living in poverty you can buy as many tokens as you can afford and bid. If you win, you get “basic necessities” that can be used or traded for food; if you lose, you just starve to death (you probably were going to starve anyway and this just gets it over with). Call your Droobli rep today!

1246. Comment by Mort Allison | August 10th, 2009

      Droobli is a joke. Jason SWitzer is a joke. Gene is a joke. Bob is a joke.

      MIllions of customers and yet only 10 or so completed auctions? Those customers really must be getting excited about the droobli business model.

      Can’t the drooblidiots see the writing on the wall? Are they even bigger morons than we know them to be?

      They’re just greedy and deserve all the money losses that they will accure. I really think droobli is evil. It preys upon thousands of pathetic “business associates” (also known as pathetic little boys pretending to be big businessmen so their daddys will be proud of their failure sons.)

      Droobli is a pyramid selling scheme. A small ponzi scheme. How Bobby Jenson can live with himself I just don’t know. He’s evil and will burn in hell for what he’s doing to poor guys like Gene.

1247. Comment by Pore Newrenson | August 10th, 2009

      Droobli is dead. Let’s have a “Droobli is Dead Party”. You drooblidiots have lost your money.

1248. Comment by Beavis | August 10th, 2009

      Let’s clarify one thing:

      A pyramid scheme is not Ponzi scheme; they are different animals.

      “A multilevel pyramid scheme is a form of fraud similar in some ways to a Ponzi scheme, relying as it does on a mistaken belief in financial reality, including the hope of an extremely high rate of return. However, several characteristics distinguish these schemes from Ponzi schemes:

      * In a Ponzi scheme, the schemer acts as a “hub” for the victims, interacting with all of them directly. In a multilevel scheme, those who recruit additional participants benefit directly. (In fact, failure to recruit typically means no investment return.)
      * A Ponzi scheme claims to rely on some esoteric investment approach (insider connections, etc.) and often attracts well-to-do investors; whereas multilevel schemes explicitly claim that new money will be the source of payout for the initial investments.
      * A multilevel scheme is bound to collapse much faster because it requires exponential increases in participants to sustain it. By contrast, Ponzi schemes can survive simply by persuading most existing participants to “reinvest” their money, with a relatively small number of new participants.
      ” Wikipedia

      Droobli is an unsustainable pyramid; it is not a Ponzi scheme.

1249. Comment by Only Facts | August 10th, 2009

      Heard a very funny quote on morning television.

      The gossip guy was spurting out his normal rubbish, when the host asked if the story had been confirmed.

      “I confirmed it twice” replied the gossip guy.
      “I read it once then I read it again……..”

      Sound familiar?

1250. Comment by Beavis | August 10th, 2009

      Pore Newrenson said:

      “Droobli is dead. Let’s have a “Droobli is Dead Party”. You drooblidiots have lost your money.”

      Quit telling them that they lost their money. How are we going to get them to buy the beer if they know they are broke?

1251. Comment by only lies | August 11th, 2009

      only facts is an idiot. Droobli is a scam because only an idiot would pay 80 cents to “check a price” to make the price go down by 25 cents. Cheaper prices my butt. It means goods can cost 200 or even 300 % of their normal price – it’s just that it’s not only one person paying for something. All losers in the auction have paid something.

      It’s a con. Don’t have anything to do with droobli. It’s the demon sister of AMway. And you know what Amway is. Why, it’s the quickest way to clear a room. Droobli isn’t because so few people have heard of it.

1252. Comment by Bobby Bloewdly | August 11th, 2009

      Hey everybody. Want a laugh? Try to explain droobli to someone. It’s hilarious.

      The drooblidiots just keep repeating the “amazing business model” mantra over and over again until they believe it. It’s the funniest thing calling itself a “business”.

1253. Comment by Only Facts | August 11th, 2009

      Only Lies

      I love it when a person comes in half way through an argument and think they know it all. If you would have bothered to look at some past post’s, you would have realised I was making reference to the fact that all pro Droobli comments state the same Droobli doctrine over and over again. This doctrine comes from Drooblis own web sites. They dont bother to look anywhere else, then they call those who bother to research Parrots. Over and over and over………..

1254. Comment by Martin | August 11th, 2009

      I’ve been sent a brochure on GroobLi, and it helped clarify some information posted above in comment 1043.

      Eaglescout you mentioned it was posted from somewhere else, and the information that I was sent says it comes from “Tom Ashlock’s response re ‘Negative Press’. ” and was addressed to “Dear Business Associates”, and included 2 extra paragraphs of introduction.

      I would have liked a point by point rebuttal of this info since it is being used in GroobLi BA literature. Anyone up for doing such a long comment reply?

1255. Comment by Martin | August 11th, 2009

      I’ll kick off with one point that has been put by ‘me’ a couple of times and I haven’t seen refuted…

      ie

      **** 7. “GroobLi doesn’t even register when you compare traffic analysis.” That’s true, but the claim is made out-of-context because the analysis comes from public web metrics companies (like Google or Alexa) who don’t measure traffic that comes through “personal home pages.” Most GroobLi customers visit droobli.com via a Business Associate’s individual website link (i.e., droobli.com/xxxxxxx). By their own admission, most web metrics companies do not count what they classify as “personal home pages,” which are treated separately if they can be automatically identified as such from the URLs in question, which is the case with any Business Associate’s droobli.com/xxxxxxx link.

      So I searched and found http://www.homebizpal.com/technical/understanding-alexa-rank/ and http://www.alexa.com/help/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=17&sid=badf70abdfcde8940a0a984141b7b1dc

      So… Alexa does include ALL droobli.com/xxxxxxx pages in it’s traffic ranking. It does not treat them as “personal home pages” as shown by the fact that is does not give them a separate ranking with an asterisk (*) next to it.

      It seems that the first sentence in 7. is correct. The second sentence may or may not be true. And the third sentence, by not specifically mentioning Alexa, could also be correct. However combined they are incorrect, misleading and/or off the point.

      7. is incorrect if it is talking about Alexa ranking.

      The Alexa ranking seems as valid as ever.

1256. Comment by Beavis | August 11th, 2009

      Ooh, nice work, Martin. I also believe that Droobli is full of crap about most of the traffic going through referral sites. That’s the business theory, but I think the reality is very different. I’ve complained numerous times about Droobli’s opaque nature (no public financials, no traffic logs available for their website, nested corporate entities with holding companies located in offshore banking havens, etc.). Only they know the fully accurate traffic count for their site and they aren’t showing it (probably because it sucks). As far as a point by point I think it would exceed the attention span of the Drooblidiots.

1257. Comment by Bobby Bloewdly | August 12th, 2009

      What’s with droobli people????? Did they all just inherit the world’s biggest jerks gene? They are all just creeps. Kind of personality free zones. Why are they all the same? Just greedy idiots who don’t care who they hurt.

      Yes, Virginia, droobli really is a scam ……

1258. Comment by Only Facts | August 12th, 2009

      Well done Martin
      As I have said on several occasions. Individually points such as the ones you found mean very little, but when you start adding them all together you get a picture of what this company is, or more importantly is not. If more people went to the trouble that you have, they at least would have a better understanding of what they’re getting into. I still haven’t found one pro Droobli comment that can be verified outside the of the Droobli network. Looking through Pyramid schemes on Google, I found an interesting statement. When a Pyramid scheme starts to add new levels, usually at the top, this is an indication that the scheme is begining to collapse. Lets see how long it takes Droobli to add new levels.

1259. Comment by Jose | August 12th, 2009

      I paid to Droobli for about 200 credit points. I regret ever having spend my money on them. I tried to bidding on 3 items and at the end I lost all my credits (MONEY) and ended with nothing.
      Bottom line, GROOBLI is a complex scam where the charge for the you to place a bid, and it some else, looking for the smallest unique bid, where in reality, i find hard to believe. Specially when I actually bid the same amount for the item.
      Keep your self and you money away from this company, I would rather spend my money in Ebay and /or Bidz, where I do not loose money by just only placing a bid.
      I am consumer, I have to tied to any company and I work to hard to make a living. Do not give your hard working money to this company. Better to wasted on yourself.
      And, YES, Droobli is a scam ………

1260. Comment by Jason Switzer | August 12th, 2009

      for all the uneducated folks in the audience, biggest example being Beavis… be a little nicer and I might give you a ride in my new car or maybe even invite you to my new property when I hit SVP.

      check it out:

      GroobLi created a New position: Senior Vice President! To qualify as SVP, you must have five teams with a VP in each team.
      First one who qualifies will receive a New Bentley Cabriolet, Breitling Bentley Watch and $ 1 MILLION CASH! – All NEW QUALIFED SVP’s (before January 1, 2011) WILL ALSO RECEIVE A $1 MILLION CASH BONUS! The bonus will be paid in March, 2011 at the Convention (dates and location to be announced)

      GroobLi Land in Cayman Brack is beginning construction for luxury residences exclusively for all GroobLi VPs and SVPs.
      GroobLi will finance. All new VP’s for 2009 will receive GroobLi Land for FREE.

      Become a VP before January 1, 2010 and receive three “tickets” to be given to your team members that you believe will become SVP. The “ticket” will give them 2 years from their enrollment date to become SVP and earn a 1 MILLION DOLLAR cash bonus.

      Oh…. and make sure you read this Beavis. The truth can hurt

      http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/medianet-group-technologies-enters-into,924365.shtml

1261. Comment by Paul Lorenson | August 12th, 2009

      Dear Jason Switzer,

      You really have no idea about what’s important in life, do you? A big new car or a big house is all what it’s about for you? You will never be happy, if you continue to make money your god.

      Do you think you’ll win the million bucks? Do you really?

      Why not just work for a living and feel the satisfaction of earning your pay through real work?

      Droobli is a pyramid scheme on the verge of collapse. It’s not needed in this world. How can you help others? Compared to the rest of the world you’re already rich. Enjoy that fact. Maybe give away some of what you have. You don’t need a new watch or car. Help others and you’ll feel much better.

1262. Comment by eaglescout | August 12th, 2009

      Jason, you may be more educated than Beavis*, but your moral compass appears to betray you. You are an intelligent person who can read this article and understand that you are promising things that have not materialized, which given the history of GroobLi may not even ever materialize.

      Now let’s say they do materialize. What does it say about you that you are aware of all the criminal and shady managers of GroobLi? Between Johnathan Gulla, Carlos Oestby, and Santi Fuentes, GroobLi looks more like a criminal organization than anything else.

      Why would you associate with such people? I’ve read your commentary on GroobLi, and it comes across as fake and irrelevant to what GroobLi is really about.

      I mean, look at this crap: RADIO GroobLi Announces The Online Business Pro Jason Switzer

      You go around advertising yourself as though you were a god. In case anybody wants to avoid paying $895 for Jason Switzer’s webinar, it is available here. Jason, why would you think that your webinar is worth $895 dollars?

      And here is more vague propaganda by Jason.

      He goes around making new websites or shell companies to give the impression that he is successful, but his credentials? Entrepreneur. Yep. So is Gene, I believe.

      And let’s not forget Yorgo Nestoridis who besides competing with Jason at fooling people into GroobLi, is also an expert in Losing Weight Daily, and Horoscopes. He also thinks that sites like TheSpinFactor.com manage high ratings by including the word “scam” in our meta keywords; I disagree, and think it’s rather due to the relevant content on GroobLi. After all, I don’t see Yorgoo listed in the top ten spots when searching for GroobLi on Google, despite the fact that he sells software designed to do just that.

      I expect to see Jason Switzer and Yorgo Neistoridis selling other scams and worthless tools once GroobLi fails in Australia. I would hope that relatively smart people like them would instead move on to providing factual information but they seem to be stuck in the MLM and Amway mentality of making a few quick bucks by misrepresenting their products.

      However, I must thank Jason Switzer for leaking internal GroobLi documents which actually worsen GroobLi’s prospects.

      *For the sake of argument only.

1263. Comment by Bobby Bloewdly | August 13th, 2009

      Jason, Bob and Gene are intellectual lightweights. These guys think they’re dynamic businessmen with the next ebay. It’s all a sorry joke. Droobli is one big scam.

1264. Comment by kenju | August 13th, 2009

      Droobli is about to launch in Australia. Went to one of the prelaunch presentation in Sydney, Australia. The presenter claimed that he is earning $35,000 since he started 3 months ago. All he did was to sell the ‘hope and promise’, the reversed auction is just the game. Money is made by bring the people and get them to buy the Bronze or the Gold pack. (Sound like a get rich quick scheme). Firstly Droobli needs an auctioners license to operate in Australia if Droobli is an auction business. Secondly Budli may need a gambling license as reversed auction is like a pokie machine (jackpot machine). Some punters may put in the coins (credits as it is called by Droobli) as they moved away some lucky person might hit the jackpot.
      As some of you were happy to you get the items at fantastic discount, you must remember some suckers had already paid the difference (3 times over) and not getting the items. Sure there are enough suckers that will fall for it – hoping they would be lucky to get the best bargains. Please do not put God in this picture.

1265. Comment by undercover beavis | August 13th, 2009

      “As some of you were happy to you get the items at fantastic discount, you must remember some suckers had already paid the difference (3 times over) and not getting the items.”

      kenju, you are way too negative. Next you will probably point out the attrition rate of Droobli recruits is so high that Business Associate has to recruit constantly just to maintain any semblance of a downline; or that even if a Droobli BA were temporarily successful in recruiting it would all go away when the company collapses (like all unsustainable pyramids do). You need to think more positive like “I would have more time for the friends and family that count in my life because I shut out the ones that didn’t join” or “if I work really hard and recruit enough people I won’t have to put all of next year’s Droobli renewal on credit (that yearly $3,199 bill can sneak up on you)”. GO GROOBLI!

1266. Comment by undercover beavis | August 13th, 2009

      Jason Switzer (aka “Captain Delusional”) said:
      “Oh…. and make sure you read this Beavis. The truth can hurt”
      the link goes to an article on Droobli buying MediocreNet, the online mall company. Nice company that is bleeding red all over the place, has a whopping ten employees and an asset value less than $200k (I wonder if they paid for it with tokens?). This is going to be the talk of Wall Street, you big movers and shakers, you.

1267. Comment by Martin | August 13th, 2009

      I am slow in posting and all these comments have filled in since.

      Anyway…

      From Beavis 1256. “…point by point I think it would exceed the attention span of the Drooblidiots.”

      Perhaps, but I would like this site to be there for the people who are still researching rather than just those who have already made up their mind, one way or other.

      Hopefully they will ask questions inside the company, and the answers can be added on here for verification / refutation.

      The biggest thing that gets me re-examining this over and over, is the scale of this.

      Take the support for GroobLi from Charles King for one. If he goes down with this then ‘academic’ MLM, not to mention, Tim Sales’ Brilliant Compensation, suffers a big credibility hit.

      Can anyone point to something from Charles King other than GroobLi press releases from 2008? Audio in his own words and/or 2009 material would be good.

1268. Comment by Jason Switzer | August 13th, 2009

      in response to Paul…. what is your definition of “real work”?

      Should I do what most of the people on here (who have negative things to say about this opportunity) are probably doing? Getting up… commuting each morning like cattle… so I can spend all day with other average people doing average work, all while making someone else rich? No thanks! If you are ok leading a mediocre life and producing mediocre results… go right ahead. Every ant colony needs worker ants.

      And as for you Eaglescout… shame on you. I have done a little investigative work on you and what… are you scared that your little mom and pop amazon store operation is going to fail when more and more people start to use portals like Droobli? I am sure you will pretend you have no idea what I am talking about and that is ok. You go ahead and try to squeeze those last few sales out while you can.

      What is wrong with having multiple websites and multiple revenue streams? You point it out like there is something wrong with that. Do you realize that some of the most successful Internet entrepreneur’s and Internet marketers have dozens of sites and in some cases hundreds producing revenue. Good for Yorgo… he is not the only one. Let’s see… let’s focus all our efforts on one job or one site so when something out of my control goes wrong, I have to deal with no income and the stress of that… no thanks. If that is how you want to lead your life go right ahead… I just hope you never become a statistic. I know I will not. Can you definitively say the same thing?

      And for all of you pyramid/ponzi preachers out there…. you should all apply for jobs with the FTC. You are obviously more educated than the folks there. Guess what… regardless of whether you think it is a pyramid or a ponzi or both…. it does not matter…. because they are both ILLEGAL. And because they are illegal, there would be litigation against Droobli already in the works if it was operating an illegal operation. If you could be so kind as to point ANY out to me then I will zip my lips. And I am talking about here in the USA. Don’t show me show foreign document in some other language about something that happened overseas years ago. The company that is operating here, today, in the USA is much different than the Droobli that was first launched years ago.

1269. Comment by undercover beavis | August 13th, 2009

      “The company that is operating here, today, in the USA is much different than the Droobli that was first launched years ago.”

      Yes, Droobli is totally legit and they have proven it by saying that they will someday actually open a physical presence here instead of a mail drop and using a holding company in a banking haven for their Delaware corporation. And Eaglescout should be scared for his Amazon store operation because within five years Droobli will have more customers than there are people in China and will double it’s auction traffic to. . . umm. . . let’s see. . . that’s twelve auctions per day times two. . . 24 AUCTIONS PER DAY! GO GROOBLI!

1270. Comment by undercover beavis | August 13th, 2009

      And Jason Switzer is not only going to win the Droobli Bently, but in 2011 they are giving away to their top producers entire continents*!

      *certain restrictions may apply

1271. Comment by Bobby Bloewdly | August 14th, 2009

      Jason Switzer and Martin are the latest drooblidiots. Droobli is a scam fellas. How you can live with yourself after making profit off of scam reverse auctions is beyond me.

      You two greedy guys already have enough. Just stop wanting more and you’ll have more than enough.

      People should never have to pay anything to check the price of something. That should be illegal. Droobli has few customers. It has idiot BAs who are bidding a lot of credits to make droobli seem like it has a lot of people doing it.

      Anyone who mentions droobli to me will be beaten up. It’s stupid crap with a silly, childish bidding system. It’s a scam. No normal person is going to spend 80 cents to check the price of something. It’s just a childishly silly idea.

1272. Comment by Jason Switzer | August 14th, 2009

      Yeah, like most of the other crap you put up, I can see a lot of thought went into your 2 most recent replies undercover. That is some powerful and intellectual stuff you have there.

      And as for you Bobby, I live with myself very well, thank you. Just because your whole universe and thoughts for that matter, fit neatly inside 4 corners, don’t attack those of us that have enough guts to venture and think outside the box. You probably stopped wanting more a long time ago when you realized that what you are doing can give you no more, but I refuse to put a ceiling on this house and as i long as I can keep growing and I can help others grow, the rocket will keep climbing. How many people have you helped climb out of debt? How many lives have you changed? I assume not too many so you go ahead and continue to be a tough guy behind your keyboard.

1273. Comment by Bob | August 14th, 2009

      If you don’t want to pay to check a price then don’t go to your local store. Don’t go to Costco. And don’t buy anything that used advertising to get the word out. By the way you spend 80 cents to get the guaranteed lowest price…..period! (If you happened to buy the credit in the first place, since GroobLi will always give free credits by referring friends.)

      This site is no more than a pesky pimple that pops up and goes away…the gross misrepresentations and misunderstandings asserted like they were from the authority on “scams” is now becoming evidence of the eventual collapse of what (some) people used to consider a reputable site.

      Most people never paid much attention to this site anyway because of the bitter and driven overtones pounding an awesome company. Obvious symptoms of “spin”

      No time to waste here but the public offering is here.
      Refer to Jason’s post that was ignored earlier.

      What this really means to us is that all the garbage accusations about GroobLi are now officially, and embarrassingly for the accusers, null and void. When someone asks, “Is this company legit?” or “What about those negative sites?” or “Is GroobLi a money-laundering organization?”, we can calmly laugh and say, “Don’t worry – GroobLi just became publicly traded and is now fully-transparent.”

      There’s two types of people in the world:

      1) Those who go to work, make their bosses rich, buy what they need on the way home, spend some of their money wisely online in an amazing Seamless Global Portal to save even more money, they recommend their friends to get free stuff, and go through the process over and over again. Week after week. Year after year!

      2) Those who work from home, make themselves a perpetual massive income from people who go to work, make and their bosses rich because they are giving extreme value to those people who will recommend their friends who will do it over and over again. Week after week. Year after year.

      Uh wait a minute:
      There are 3 types…I forgot about the cast of negative characters in here. I think it is time for a new hobby.

1274. Comment by beavis | August 14th, 2009

      Bob said:

      “This site is no more than a pesky pimple that pops up and goes away”

      Yes, Bob, and you are the pus inside.

1275. Comment by beavis | August 14th, 2009

      

1276. Comment by beavis | August 14th, 2009

      Oh, and by the way, Bob, you savvy financial fellow; Droobli is not doing a public offering (not that I would expect you to understand the Medianet transaction). Medianet is issuing stock to the shareholders of Droobli; the shareholders are Bobby Jensen and his cronies; not the public. You will not see any financials from Droobli (as usual); you will not participate in the acquisition; you will continue to be in the dark. Sometimes its entertaining to listen to you businessmen wannabes; other times its just painful.

1277. Comment by Jason Switzer | August 14th, 2009

      Beavis was so impressed and humored by his comment on 1274 that he had to follow up with comment 1275. And that leads us to 1276…. “businessmen wannabes”. No beavis… it is not a matter of “wannabe”… I, like most people that have taken this business seriously, are making real money. Look in the mirror if you want to see a wannabe. A wannabe business analyst. A wannabe attorney… a wannabe success. I realize it is not fun being a loser that hides behind a cartoon name and his keyboard but don’t attack those of us that put our real names out there and go after it. Every attempt may not be a homerun but at least we have the guts to step up to bat and swing!

1278. Comment by beavis | August 14th, 2009

      “Every attempt may not be a homerun but at least we have the guts to step up to bat and swing!”

      And it is fun to watch you Gomers flail.

1279. Comment by beavis | August 14th, 2009

      
      

1280. Comment by Jason Switzer | August 14th, 2009

      enjoy the view of my home run derby from your cubicle skippy…

1281. Comment by beavis | August 14th, 2009

      That’s it; keep up the positive attitude. Just don’t hit yourself with the bat when you miss.

1282. Comment by beavis | August 14th, 2009

      :):)

1283. Comment by beavis | August 14th, 2009

      

      (forgot to put the spaces in)

1284. Comment by Jason Switzer | August 14th, 2009

      don’t forget your glove… I’ll try and hit some your way

1285. Comment by Bob | August 14th, 2009

      Beavis,

      Steeeeeerike!

      Droobli will be public and completely transparent.

1286. Comment by beavis | August 14th, 2009

      Bob,

      No, it won’t. It will be nested with offshore corporations that control the real money. Thank you, anyway, for you rudimentary attempt at stock analysis.

      Jason,

      When? Next week; next month; next year? I’m sorry; the exponential growth of this fantastic business opportunity is too hard to predict. I should know better because all of Droobli’s grandiose projections have failed to materialize, at least on a scale anywhere close to what they predicted.

1287. Comment by eaglescout | August 14th, 2009

      Jason Switzer says:

      Should I do what most of the people on here (who have negative things to say about this opportunity) are probably doing?

      No.

      Getting up… commuting each morning like cattle… so I can spend all day with other average people doing average work, all while making someone else rich?

      You don’t have to, but Bobby Jensen is really happy that you are making him rich, you are his favorite calf.

      No thanks! If you are ok leading a mediocre life and producing mediocre results… go right ahead. Every ant colony needs worker ants.

      That’s right. Bobby Jensen’s cult really needs you, Jason.

      And as for you Eaglescout… shame on you. I have done a little investigative work on you and what… are you scared that your little mom and pop amazon store operation is going to fail when more and more people start to use portals like Droobli?

      Yes. I’m scared mylittlemomandpopamazonstore.com is going to fail when GroobLi launches (for the 5th time).

      On the contrary, the more popular GroobLi gets, the dumber you and Bobby Jensen look (oh, and more traffic for thespinfactor.com)

      I am sure you will pretend you have no idea what I am talking about and that is ok. You go ahead and try to squeeze those last few sales out while you can.

      I know exactly what you are talking about. It’s that fictitious mom-and-pop company you invented for your straw-man argument.

      What is wrong with having multiple websites and multiple revenue streams?

      Nothing. Except horoscopes are fake, and Yorgo’s software doesn’t seem to work as advertised.

      You point it out like there is something wrong with that. Do you realize that some of the most successful Internet entrepreneur’s and Internet marketers have dozens of sites and in some cases hundreds producing revenue.

      Nothing wrong with having multiple sources of revenue, but you can keep arguing about that with yourself if you like.

      Good for Yorgo… he is not the only one.

      I know. There are a lot of people selling scams and fake products everywhere.

      Let’s see… let’s focus all our efforts on one job or one site so when something out of my control goes wrong, I have to deal with no income and the stress of that… no thanks.

      Right, you wouldn’t want to put all your eggs in the one GroobLi basket. Heck, you wouldn’t want to put any eggs in the GroobLi basket, unless you’ve got money to burn or people to scam.

      If that is how you want to lead your life go right ahead… I just hope you never become a statistic. I know I will not.

      Yes, that’s exactly how I want to “lead” my life. I’m going to buy 3 gold memberships and stack them like a pyramid.

      Can you definitively say the same thing?

      I can see the future, so, like you, Jason, I know I won’t become a statistic (whatever that means…)

      And for all of you pyramid/ponzi preachers out there…. you should all apply for jobs with the FTC. You are obviously more educated than the folks there. Guess what… regardless of whether you think it is a pyramid or a ponzi or both…. it does not matter…. because they are both ILLEGAL.

      That’s not the case. Amway is considered a legal pyramid scheme.

      And because they are illegal, there would be litigation against Droobli already in the works if it was operating an illegal operation.

      That’s an illogical argument. Was there litigation in the works for Enron before it nose-dived? What about asdsurfdaily.com and asdcashgenerator.com?

      On the other hand, whether GroobLi operates legally or not, we know you and a few others are selling a dubious “opportunity”. We’ve looked at the traffic, and found all the inconsistencies in your lies.

      You can’t possibly have 3 million satisfied European customers if there have only been 100 auctions in all of Europe. Even if the number were 100 auctions a month, that would be 2400 auctions for 2 years which equals: 2,997,600 unsatisfied GroobLi customers.

      Of course, the simpler explanation is that you are lying, or that GroobLi is lying to you, or you are both lying. I’ll go with the latter.

      If you could be so kind as to point ANY out to me then I will zip my lips.

      No! please stay. Gene is really boring.

      And I am talking about here in the USA. Don’t show me show foreign document in some other language about something that happened overseas years ago. The company that is operating here, today, in the USA is much different than the Droobli that was first launched years ago.

      Really? So why do you keep touting GroobLi’s past? “WOW, GroobLi was a success in Europe 2 years ago!”

      I’ve already pointed out Johnathan Gulla, who, last I heard, was a sales trainer for GroobLi U.S.A.

1288. Comment by Steve Van der Zim | August 14th, 2009

      Bob and Jason – you guys just don’t get it. You think your positive thinking crap and all the success motivation CDs matter. Things never make anyone happy. Choose life. You don’t really help people. You “help” them if they will get sucked into your pyramid scheme and make you more money.

      You guys are as boring as hell. Money is your god. You cause damage to people and families who get drawn into this stuff. Droobli is a scam. Bobby Jenson didn’t dream this up to benefit others. Don’t you understand? You’re Michael’s puppets you pair of idiots. But with droobli everything is so complicated that pathetic morons like you think it must be a good idea.

      The world doesn’t need droobli. What a waste of space the whole thing is. All that time wasted. All that effort down the drain. For what? Just so you hope to find enough idiots who think checking prices for 80 cents makes cents.

      In the USA there are only 300 million people. You won’t find enough idiots who think checking prices for 80 cents is the deal of the century.

      You guys are brainwashed clones. So in love with your greed that you think droobli makes since. If it’s so good why tell others about it? Keep it to yourself and make all the money. No you can’t do that because it is a ponzi pyramid scheme that needs more people spending their money to get their “instant businessman kits” for $3000. You need more suckers to join it don’t you??? Admit it you creeps. You need people to join because this makes you money. Without the suckers you make nothing.

      Admit that to yourselves and you won’t be able to sleep. Making money off of a pyramid scheme that depends on others losing their money.

      How many poor pathetic losers can you trap today?

      Hey Bob and Jason, do you guys have guns or knives? Why don’t you do the world a favor and use them. You aren’t helping anyone. You are damaging people. Tricking them.

      You guys have bought your tickets to hell with your greed.

1289. Comment by eaglescout | August 14th, 2009

      Steve, as much as I enjoy free speech, please refrain from suggesting suicide. If either Bob or Jason are clinically depressed, they might go through with it. And if they misunderstood your suggestion, they might kill their own spouses or children, you never know.

1290. Comment by Steve Van der Zim | August 15th, 2009

      You’re right. Sorry about that. It’s just that I hate scams like droobli so much, that I got carried away.

1291. Comment by beavis | August 15th, 2009

      “The following can indicate a delusion:[3]

      1. The patient expresses an idea or belief with unusual persistence or force.
      2. That idea appears to exert an undue influence on his or her life, and the way of life is often altered to an inexplicable extent.
      3. Despite his/her profound conviction, there is often a quality of secretiveness or suspicion when the patient is questioned about it.
      4. The individual tends to be humorless and oversensitive, especially about the belief.
      5. There is a quality of centrality: no matter how unlikely it is that these strange things are happening to him, the patient accepts them relatively unquestioningly.
      6. An attempt to contradict the belief is likely to arouse an inappropriately strong emotional reaction, often with irritability and hostility.
      7. The belief is, at the least, unlikely, and out of keeping with the patient’s social, cultural and religious background.
      8. The patient is emotionally over-invested in the idea and it overwhelms other elements of his or her psyche.
      9. The delusion, if acted out, often leads to behaviors which are abnormal and/or out of character, although perhaps understandable in the light of the delusional beliefs.
      10. Individuals who know the patient will observe that his or her belief and behavior are uncharacteristic and alien.
      ”

      Wikipedia

1292. Comment by beavis | August 15th, 2009

      “Grandiose Type: delusion of inflated worth, power, knowledge, identity, or special relationship to a famous person”

      Wikipedia

      Hi, Jason!

1293. Comment by Bob | August 15th, 2009

      Jason look what you did to Beavis now.
      I feel bad for him.
      Perhaps he needs to be invitation to the Caymans.

1294. Comment by Bob | August 15th, 2009

      Oops,
      Being humorous is fun, I meant “to be invited”

1295. Comment by beavis | August 15th, 2009

      Is that where Droobli sends you? How appropriate; an offshore banking haven with a substantial sheep and goat industry.

1296. Comment by Bob | August 15th, 2009

      Looks like a crash and burn to me…….Facts Prevail!

1297. Comment by beavis | August 15th, 2009

      Bob, I have no idea what you are going on about. Please don’t take this as a request for you to elaborate. In fact, take this as just the opposite; an encouragement to cease whatever it is you are rambling about. It is making absolutely no sense therefore you are posting in vain. Thank you in advance.

1298. Comment by Michael | August 16th, 2009

      Beavis, I wanted to make a point of clarification. Apparently, you are the one confused about the pending MediocreNet transaction.

      In Comment #1276, you stated to Bob:

      “Oh, and by the way, Bob, you savvy financial fellow; Droobli is not doing a public offering (not that I would expect you to understand the Medianet transaction). Medianet is issuing stock to the shareholders of Droobli; the shareholders are Bobby Jensen and his cronies; not the public. You will not see any financials from Droobli (as usual); you will not participate in the acquisition; you will continue to be in the dark. Sometimes its entertaining to listen to you businessmen wannabes; other times its just painful.”

      Counter to the statement you made, the company’s financials will in fact be available to the public. MediocreNet currently trades over-the-counter on the OTC Bulletin Board (symbol: OTCBB:MEDG). This means that the company is an official publicly-traded entity and is current with all of its required SEC filings.

      It sounds like you’re not aware that the OTCBB is just a smaller-scale securities exchange — a couple of the main differences are that companies are not required to show a market cap and there is no minimum share price requirements (as there are with larger securities exchanges, such as the NASDAQ or the AMEX). Many companies start on the OTCBB and apply for one of the larger exchanges as their size and sales increase. It’s also where companies end up when their share prices fall below the minimums required by the “Big Board” exchanges.

      With simple research, anyone who wants the information will be able to see what the company’s financial results have been on a quarterly and annual basis. And anyone with a brokerage account can buy shares of this entity.

      This transaction is a version of what’s technically known as a “reverse merger”, and represents an expedient and cost-effective way for the “acquired” company (Droobli) to become a publicly-traded entity. (I put the quotes around “acquired” because in actuality it’s Droobli that will be taking control of MediocreNet.)

      As soon as the merger is completed, anyone who wishes to access financial data for this or any other publicly-traded entity can use the SEC’s EDGAR system, available online at: http://www.sec.gov/edgar.shtml

1299. Comment by Crane Benson | August 16th, 2009

      drooblidiots are dulusional. (get the new spelling?) Every product on a reverse auction sells for 2 to 3 times its real value. That’s because you have to spend 80 cents to reduce an item’s price by 25 cents. Sure some people get something cheaply but the total pool of people who bid on the one item have to spend more than its retail value for it to be sold.

      Now that just doesn’t make sense to normal people. Droobli people deserve their widely known title of drooblidiots.

      The only thing I will praise droobli for is the fact that their spin is very good. They could make dog poo seem like thai curry. Anyway, drooblidiots lap up the dog poo like it was thai curry. They will fall for anything in the name of greed.

      I wonder if a droobli person has actually tried to sell one of their children on the “online shopping portal”? I wouldn’t put it past those greedy idiots.

      Droobli is for morons with no conscience. Are you one of those?

      Then join droobli. Hurray for you and all the super greedy people on this planet!

1300. Comment by Bob | August 16th, 2009

      Crane,
      I think even Beavis and Eaglescout now realize the everything on the Xpress auction starts at the guaranteed lowest price.

      If I am looking for an x-box for example; why would I look anywhere else if I know it will always be guaranteed to be less expensive at GroobLi?

      Kick it up a notch…
      If 200 people in any country around the world happened to buy or receive free credits and look at the x-box before me (which is the equivalent to advertising)…then I save 50 more bucks.

      How much clearer can you get than that?
      Joining GroobLi as a customer is free, and and whether you are greedy or not you probably love to save money.

      Lastly; the auctions are a means to an end. They are the door customer enters to get to everything else.

      If I (and everyone i can tell about this) get excitement and value as a GroobLi customer then I am glad I am a moron in your view. I save approx $1500-2000 a year for my family.

      Ok I can see it now…what is the angry and twisted answer to that?

1301. Comment by beavis | August 16th, 2009

      michael said:

      “Beavis, I wanted to make a point of clarification. Apparently, you are the one confused about the pending MediocreNet transaction.”

      I am fully aware of how MediocreNet is traded. If you look into the nested structure of Droobli you will find that the disclosures on Droobli’s side will be of little substance as Droobli is not “a corporation” but a series of privately held corporations which are wholly owned by offshore holding corporations (where the real money is). If you believe Droobli is going to actually integrate all facets of of this into the acquisition of MediocreNet I believe you will be disappointed. I’m not saying it couldn’t happen, but any company that goes through the effort to set up holding companies in (notorious) offshore banking havens is not usually in the full disclosure business as they are typically set up to shield the principals’ money from the courts and taxes.

      The following is from MLM Helpdesk (mlmhelpdesk.com):

      GROOBLICOM LTD – 17 Gr. Xenopoulou Street, 3106 Limassol, Cyprus
      GROOBLICOM, LTD is the parent company of GroobLi Network, LLC – 702 West Street, Wilmington, DE 19801
      Lenox Logidtik & Service GmbH is the operator of the complete GroobLi enterprise worldwide – Wisbyer Strabe 10B, 10439 Berlin, Germany

      Bob said:

      “If I (and everyone i can tell about this) get excitement and value as a GroobLi customer then I am glad I am a moron in your view. I save approx $1500-2000 a year for my family.

      Ok I can see it now…what is the angry and twisted answer to that?”

      And you only spend $3,199 for your yearly Droobli Gold Membership to get the tokens to make these alleged “savings”. Also, you didn’t read the fine print. Droobli honors the price guarantee only if you show proof of a lower price from a local merchant. Please, Bob, explain to me how this translates to the “lowest price on the ‘Net” or are they lying (I choose the later).

1302. Comment by Gene | August 16th, 2009

      Hi beav. I think as Bob says facts prevail. What are you doing making things up as you go.

      Oh yeah that’s what you’ve been doing all along. You might even take the facts when it suits you

      and spin them for your benefit of the argument. Now tell us how this nested structure really is of benefit for the

      company it’s associates and customers. If you can. You make it sound like off shore holdings are a big no no. Beav this

      is a world enterprise unfolding before your eyes, you know international, why in the world do you think they would want to put all their eggs in one basket or locate everything in one jurisdiction? Think about what you’re saying here.

      From what I see, be looking for more of the same. It’s only good business. Another reason to start a business with the company.

      I see it as the makings for more stability. We will see more offices around the world.

      Again beav as to the lowest price guarantee how would you do business? Just believe every Tom Dick and Beav that they found

      a lower price somewhere else? Please how would you do it? What a fallacious argument if I ever saw one. There needs to be some accountability. We have a world portal in the making where click through revenue will supplement our already phenomenal income potential with the auctions and shop. But you don’t want the BAs to savor any of it though many are just beginning without the realization of their dreams. It is only $175 to renew a License as a Business Associate. But if you don’t have any credits it’s not easy to do the auctions or advertise your business. But if you can get people to your shop without credits that’s fine too.

1303. Comment by Bob | August 16th, 2009

      Beav,

      I have read it many times, but for your sake I will copy and paste it here apparently you had your 3D glasses still on or something:

      “Customers have lots of options where to purchase the things they are looking for. Price is one of the biggest reasons people choose to purchase at a particular store or internet site. It is our goal to make sure that our price is truly the best price you can find anywhere. We are so sure of this that we are willing to give you a Price Protection Guarantee.
      Price Protection Guarantee* – If you find a competitor who has the same product at a lower price than ours, within two weeks after you have purchased the item from us, we will not only match their price but also credit your account with 10% of the difference. For example you purchase an item from us at $100 and you find another vendor who has the same product and is advertising it for $90, we will credit you the $10 difference plus an additional $1.00 for a total of $11.00.

      How to submit a lower price quote: Click here

      If you find a lower price locally – that means in your country of residence including web based offers from sites that are in your native language and deliver to your country of residence; lower price must include tax or shipping as with our product – please send us the following information to honor our Price Protection Guarantee:

      * Local competitor’s name, address, phone number or web address
      * Product description incl. if relevant model number of product
      * Your name and email address
      * Our price along with our invoice number
      * Competitor’s price

      Please use the “Contact” link on the site’s bottom to send us this information.

      * This policy applies to advertised prices only. It applies only to items sold at our auction portals. It does not apply to items sold in the shopping mall. Items must be identical models. It does not apply to closeouts, bonus or free offers, financing offers, mail-in rebates, returned open merchandise, used products, or similar special conditions.”

      BTW: We are all adults here, and know the customer does not pay for a membership

1304. Comment by Michael | August 16th, 2009

      Beavis, I read your response. Apparently, more clarification is needed in your understanding of how Droobli now becoming a public entity will benefit shareholders, associates and concerned citizens, such as yourself.

      You (Beavis) responded:

      “I am fully aware of how MediocreNet is traded. If you look into the nested structure of Droobli you will find that the disclosures on Droobli’s side will be of little substance as Droobli is not “a corporation” but a series of privately held corporations which are wholly owned by offshore holding corporations (where the real money is). If you believe Droobli is going to actually integrate all facets of of this into the acquisition of MediocreNet I believe you will be disappointed. I’m not saying it couldn’t happen, but any company that goes through the effort to set up holding companies in (notorious) offshore banking havens is not usually in the full disclosure business as they are typically set up to shield the principals’ money from the courts and taxes.”

      Of course, I certainly don’t believe the company would “integrate all facets into this acquisition.” The suggestion is ridiculous on its premise: why would a company that is based in another country and doing business throughout the world seek to consolidate all its financial resources into a single US-based public company? Please tell me you don’t subscribe to that illogical form of protectionism and tax extortion. If every foreign multi-national corporation doing business in the US had to domicile all its financial activity into a US-based corporation, the world as we know would come to a grinding halt.

      Besides, that’s not even the issue you originally raised. Your concern was that Droobli would somehow be able to circumvent the need to report its actual results to the US-based publicly-traded entity, and thereby keep the public (and Bob, in particular) “in the dark” about the true financials of the company. My clarification to you was that with Droobli’s US operations soon becoming part of a publicly-traded entity, there is little likelihood (or incentive) for the company not to accurately report the financial results it achieves in the US. Again, no one would assume this entity would report results of the entire multi-national enterprise through this entity. The point is there would now be a third-party accounting firm providing audited financials and a government watchdog (the SEC) ensuring that these financials were disclosed in a timely fashion and in accordance with US law.

      I’m sure I love the US system as much as almost any other proud citizen, but I don’t expect foreign-based companies to consolidate all of their worldwide financial activity into a US-based company; this makes no sense provided they began operations and are headquartered outside the US. It is a fact of life that multi-national corporations will domicile in tax-advantaged jurisdictions. This does not mean they do not pay tax on their earnings gained within a particular country (such as the US — where they will typically set up a US-based company and pay tax on activity occurring in the US through that entity). It just means that they avoid paying ONE country taxes for all the income earned throughout the world (which is what most countries expect — the US is a prime example of that). Many smart companies choose to set up an entity in each of the major countries they are doing business in, so that they can better comply with local regulations and pay the appropriate taxes due for their financial activity in any given country. It seems this is what Droobli is doing. While it is usually smart to maintain these operating entities as private companies, Droobli seems to be going the extra step of having this company be a publicly-traded entity. Operating a public company requires greater expense and subjects the company to greater accountability, but it provides easier access to financing and greater transparency to shareholders and affiliated parties regarding the entity’s activities and results.

      Furthermore, though you state that you believe the company’s actions are designed to avoid or “shield” its principals from “courts and taxes”, I would argue in the era of Sarbanes-Oxley Act (SOX) exactly the opposite is true. In the post-SOX era, the type of avoidance you imply is particularly difficult to pull off. It appears to me that the company is seeking to raise the bar on the level of transparency and accountability for its financial activities in the US. Believe me, the SOX accounting measures will ensure that any money earned in the US is not quickly swept off to some far off land prior to Uncle Sam getting being paid. It also ensures that company will be required to be in compliance with our laws and accountable to our court system for any of its activities within the US.

      Whether all of this was intended or fully understood at the time Droobli executive team decided to move forward on this transaction is unknown. Nonetheless, what is clear now is that by being a public entity here in the US, Droobli will have its feet held firmly to the fire. Again, this should be welcomed news for prospective shareholders, prospective and active business associates and concerned citizens (like you, Beavis) alike.

1305. Comment by beavis | August 16th, 2009

      Michael,

      I actually do appreciate your response as it does correctly point out by being a public entity here in the US, Droobli will have “its feet held firmly to the fire”. However, I do disagree with you on a few key points. First, I don’t believe Droobli is going to be straightforward in it’s compliance (based upon intuition, a hunch, or the fact that they make outrageous statements like they are going to be the next eBay; the next amazon; or better yet, bigger than eBay and Amazon). In other words, I feel they will not be totally compliant (I know you are shocked, but non-compliance does happen, especially with companies that are ethically challenged).

      Second issue I have is regards your statement that:

      “Of course, I certainly don’t believe the company would “integrate all facets into this acquisition.” The suggestion is ridiculous on its premise: why would a company that is based in another country and doing business throughout the world seek to consolidate all its financial resources into a single US-based public company? Please tell me you don’t subscribe to that illogical form of protectionism and tax extortion. If every foreign multi-national corporation doing business in the US had to domicile all its financial activity into a US-based corporation, the world as we know would come to a grinding halt.”

      They are more than a foreign corporation based in a foreign nation. If you can grasp the Sarbanes-Oxley Act, you also grasped the concept that they established holding companies in tax havens. You have obviously chosen to ignore that fact to bolster your argument. Only tax evaders and those hiding from the court systems (in this case US court systems) would set up in Cyprus. Not some country that they could not shield themselves in; Cyprus. One more time, Cyprus. So, let’s see, we have a company that makes outrageous claims, and I mean totally outrageous claims, with an exit strategy in place that involves foreign tax havens; the notorious Cyprus (had to get it in one more time). The question begs, how much money can they extract from their “Business Associates” before the US Federal Government shuts them down? From Droobli’s perspective, “enough”.

1306. Comment by Gene | August 16th, 2009

      Oh now beav you keep evil surmising as to what the company is doing in the tax arena and raise false flags.

      Why not go where the company tends to do the best for it’s business or a tax haven, with those countries that can save them money honestly of course but no you make it a crime to be smart. You call it greed to be in business. You think it irreligious to make a profit. What book are you reading that we should be hermits or take vows of poverty? Historically men of courage and honesty have had riches. No maybe not all can be intrusted with wealth but those that are may not be the wealthy jet setters in the world because they invest in the worlds need so you should be careful who you point the bony finger at or the company and individuals you wish to provoke and taunt. You know, trust begets trust. If the company is trying to extract money from BAs they

      are going through a lot of trouble to do so. It doesn’t make any business sense if that were the case. And the totally outrageous claims must be taken seriously or we wouldn’t have you to contend with now would we? The next ebay or google. I can see it. Time will tell.

      I’ve not seen you show any customer complaints yet. Customers get their products in a timely fashion and associates make money and so does the company. Isn’t that how it supposed to work? So take courage associate and don’t let the spin dopes flak break your step. That goes for you who are looking and would like an online business also.

1307. Comment by beavis | August 16th, 2009

      Gene, you are too stupid for words. OK, this is how it works (I should really make you Google this). Companies that deal in banking havens don’t just go there for the tax break; they go there because they are protected under the secrecy laws(for instance, it is illegal for trustees to give out information to foreign governments). Therefore, you can hide tricky (and illegal) maneuvers with the money (like creating imaginary expenses that can’t be verified), hide the identities of the account holders and do illegal maneuvers that are hard for the IRS to track for repatriating money after the taxes are evaded. Offshore banking havens function to shield, most often illicitly, the account holders funds from taxation or from judgments by the courts. In other words, criminals use them; they’re just hard to prosecute due to the offshore banking havens’ lack of cooperation with foreign law enforcement. Now be a good boy and Google this or go to irs.gov and read some and quit bringing it up like it is something legit companies do. Offshore banking is for scumbags.

1308. Comment by beavis | August 16th, 2009

      Also, Gene, you made this comment:

      “Why not go where the company tends to do the best for it’s business or a tax haven, with those countries that can save them money honestly of course but no you make it a crime to be smart.”

      Well, here is the IRS’ take on it:

      “Citizens and residents of the United States are taxed on their worldwide income”

      “U.S. taxpayers are not to be allowed to evade taxes by shifting their own liability to some foreign entity.”

      Yes, Gene, that was “evade taxes” not “avoid taxes”. Evading taxes is a crime. By the way, this is taken from a section called “Abusive Offshore Tax Avoidance Schemes” and describes in more detail what my previous post covers. You will find that Droobli has a presence in not one but two notorious tax havens, Dubai and Cyprus. Also, investment in Droobli is handled by Offshore Investment Brokers who help set up these accounts. Hope you like your company now.

1309. Comment by cara | August 17th, 2009

      Hi to all people In Droobli, please do not waste your time on these forums. This was sent to me by someone and quite frankly I have not read it and will not waste my time.

      My suggestion to all would be focus on what you are doing right now, these people are always going to be writing about the next thing, criticizing the wealthy because of their low self esteem and they tend to feel better and more powerful when they do.

      I don’t bother ever listening to people like this I look to people who’s lifestyle I want and choose to listen to them, follow the steps of successful people not the ones on here. I actually feel sorry for people who do their research via such forums and make decisions from people who they don’t know what their backgrounds are.

      People who actually research and make their decisions from here are lacking self belief. If you have enough belief in yourself then these comments should not matter.

      Plus to Droobli members I think you want to team up with people who are strong enough and are not easily influenced by people who are obviously on the left hand side of the quadrant (if you are on here and did not get this comment research it otherwise you will remain on that side like these people are)

      You can write whatever you like after this as I will not contribute or comeback here.

      Best of luck to all, this is truly hilarious!!!

1310. Comment by Gene | August 17th, 2009

      Beav don’t show your stupidity. That’s what it is “stupid” in a word. Nobody is actually taking your seriously now. If the company chooses to operate where they pay less tax why not. Now that doesn’t mean they ignore laws in associates jurisdiction and wouldn’t send 1099s as in the US. That’s two different things. Gwet it? Did you ever learn how to count? Please these false flags you need to hang on your bed posts and keep dreaming. Here is what the tax laws state. Give me a break.

1311. Comment by Michael | August 17th, 2009

      This will be my last comment. Beavis, it’s very clear from your rebuttal to my last comment that you have an axe to grind.

      1) The people making the marketing claims in companies within this industry are usually overly enthusiastic associates. Particularly now as a public entity, the Droobli executive team will be instructed by their counsel not to make any kind of inflammatory remarks about their business. Whatever occurred of this nature in the past by the executive team will be curtailed quickly, provided they have proper legal counsel. (More good news for concerned citizens!)

      2) I assume you understand the concept of audited financials (which all public companies must have). Having a third-party certified accounting firm go through your books makes it very hard to cheat. I can appreciate that it’s your opinion (though unsubstantiated) that Droobli’s executives are inclined toward obfuscation and subversiveness, but honestly, after the experience I have had in the realm of public companies, it would be very hard to pull this off right now with the SOX measures in place.

      3) As I stated previously, it is common practice when structuring a multi-national corporation to base it in a tax-advantaged jurisdiction (Cyprus qualifies as that). This is just a measure to avoid what amounts to double-taxation without representation (something the founders of our country definitely didn’t agree with). Basing the corporation in a low-tax jurisdiction keeps the “double” side of that concept to a minimum. (As I said, most every country will try to tax the income derived by a company from its citizens — no matter where it’s based, if at all possible). I have worked on international structuring deals with top US attorneys and many will advocate basing the company in a low-tax jurisdiction (or “tax haven”, as you refer to it). So a US-citizen leading a multi-national can legally establish his/her main corporation in a tax haven. The key is how they bring the profits into the US (known as “repatriating profits”). Money can be legally earned offshore — it just needs to be repatriated properly when distributed to shareholders (meaning individual shareholders need to report the gains within their country of citizenship so that it can be taxed appropriately). Of course, having any interest in an offshore entity will likely trigger audits from the tax authority on one’s country of citizenship.

      My point in all of this is that establishing an entity in an offshore tax haven is not inherently illegal (by any stretch of the imagination) to establish or be a shareholder in an offshore entity. It’s actually recommended by most international structuring experts when establishing a multi-national corporation. The key is that the shareholders who derive income from that offshore entity must properly repatriate what they earn from that entity (which is a matter of concern for the individual in his/her home country — and is of no concern to the company). No company can ensure that its shareholders or executives are properly paying their taxes, and no company would ever be assumed to be responsible for this.

      So overall, I found your rebuttal to my remarks to be misguided. Your insistence on being contentious without presenting compelling arguments causes me to realize I am wasting my time attempting to promote greater understanding on this forum. It’s clear, your mind is not open to new information or perspectives. You are dug into a specific point of view and are not open to reassessing your position in the least bit — which makes dialogue with you tiresome, boring and futile.

      I’m amazed that this forum has lasted as long as it has (over 1300 posts!). For the record, I am not in the Droobli business and was simply researching the company after a friend approached me. Participating in this forum has led me to come to one solid conclusion: THERE IS NOTHING TO BE GAINED EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THE GROOBLI PROPOSITION THROUGH THIS FORUM. I am neither persuaded nor dissuaded by the content of this forum, just saddened that people choose to spend so much time on such unproductive discussion (and mental masturbation).

      Signing off… best of luck!

1312. Comment by Martin | August 17th, 2009

      “… and Martin are the latest drooblidiots. Droobli is a scam fellas. How you can live with yourself after making profit off of scam reverse auctions is beyond me.”

      Excuse me Bobby Bloewdly. I am not in GroobLi.

      Rather I’ve been approached by some people I respect at various levels ie I don’t blow them off lightly – but I make up my own mind.

      I don’t like the Beavis-style approach but at least for his part, as he has pointed out, he is being a scam baiter, and he has some knowledge to back up his attitude.

      Eaglescout has done a great job on this site, but unfortunately much of the commentary here has deteriorated and there are points that have not been addressed eg Charles King’s involvement.

      Most people, like Cara (1309.), won’t read 1300+ comments.

      For those who ARE prepared to do their due diligence let’s give them valuable information or at least comments that clarify positions (eg Michael v Beavis) instead of drivel.

1313. Comment by beavis | August 17th, 2009

      Michael,

      Nice try, but the IRS has a different take on what goes on behind closed doors in Cyprus. That is why Cyprus has the secrecy laws that strongly limit cooperation with our Government. This is not about legitimate tax avoidance, Cyprus is set up for tax evasion. You can pretend that you don’t know if Droobli is “massaging” their books, but I think you know better. What you gave as a reply is what one’s attorney would say after the IRS raids their business and all corporate officers have taken the 5th.

1314. Comment by justabigjoke | August 17th, 2009

      Beavis..Your a Butt Head..

      End Of.

1315. Comment by Only Facts | August 17th, 2009

      Interesting site.
      Have a look.
      droobli.com Estimated Worth $90257.2 USD

      http://www.websiteoutlook.com/www.droobli.com

1316. Comment by beavis | August 17th, 2009

      justabigjoke said:

      “Beavis..Your a Butt Head..

      End Of.”

      wow; it’s,like being insulted by Robin Williams or even Mark Twain. I mean, starting with “Beavis” and then the brilliant leap to “Butthead”. . . I am awestruck with your superior intellect and mastery of the English language. All bow to justabigjoke who I will now refer to as “Spunkmonkey”. Hail Spunkmonkey!

1317. Comment by Steve Van der Zim | August 18th, 2009

      You drooblidiots are dulusional. (For the uneducated people who seem drwan to crappy pyramid scheme “dulusional” is not the correct spelling. It’s the droobli spelling. Get it? Do you really get it you moronic hicks?

      Bob, Gene, Justin, et al …. now you guys have never been excited about shopping in your lives. You’re men, why should you? So now you pretend to be excited. “I can get 50 bucks off an x box”. Since when did that crap become important to you?

      Will droobli work? Guys, go back to before you were brainwashed by droobli and became drooblidiots. Do you remember that time? You know, when you didn’t care if you could get a rolex for half price. Remember when you said “who cares about rolexes?” Remember when your wives couldn’t get you to go to the mall? Even to buy your own clothes?

      That’s why droobli won’t work. No one cares about thinking about “credits”, “gold level”, SVP, droobli land, “reverse auctions” etc etc etc …. and all the smoke and mirrors that goes with every pyramid scheme.

      And stop telling everyone about it. People don’t want to hear your crap. Your fake concern for your neighbors makes me sick. Be real !!! Be true to yourselves you hopeless hypocrites !!!!! You don’t give a rat’s for anyone else on the planet.

      Admit it to yourselves !!! Admit it now !!!!

1318. Comment by Micah Kudrow | August 18th, 2009

      1309 Cara trips herself up badly. She says she will not read the stuff written here. A few sentences later she says what’s written here is truly hilarious. She read the things here and she’s scared, like all droobli people. There’s a big backlash against droobli out there. People are sick of being used by family and friends to join a pyramid scheme. They are sick of being regarded as a potential ‘money spinner’ by people they care about.

      Droobli is a scam. Good on Steve for pointing out how hypocritical drooblidiots are. They are mean spirited evil greedy people. We don’t need them in any country.

1319. Comment by Bob | August 18th, 2009

      Micah,
      I disagree:
      1) Cara nor anyone else for that matter does not need to read more than a few posts to find something hilarious. I believe the trip up is on you.

      2) Why would someone be scared? I would be scared if I did not take advantage of getting paid on thousands of customers in every country in the world who get excitement and value.

      3) What backlash?

      4) People are sick of pyramids, and I am glad most of them have gone out with the trash. I will gladly warn anyone I know if I see anything like that.

      4) People who look for people to join a business no matter what it is, without looking out for their best interest are misguided. I agree.

      5) If we were to truly talk about scams, hypocrites, and mean spirited people we would be talking about what you see on the news everyday. Not taking advantage of a few people who have an axe to grind who will predictably and continually expose their angry bias.

1320. Comment by beavis | August 18th, 2009

      I fully agree with Bob.

      “1) Cara nor anyone else for that matter does not need to read more than a few posts to find something hilarious. I believe the trip up is on you.”

      Cara post itself is hilarious. She is such a follower that she makes your typical barnyard sheep look like General George S. Patton.

      “2) Why would someone be scared? I would be scared if I did not take advantage of getting paid on thousands of customers in every country in the world who get excitement and value.”

      Bob would be scared by not following because not following goes against his herd instinct.

      “3) What backlash?”

      Backlash? Umm, sorry, but I think the world has just chosen to ignore Droobli until it goes away. But if there is an anti-Droobli Inquisition I want to be one of the Inquisitors!

      “4) People are sick of pyramids, and I am glad most of them have gone out with the trash. I will gladly warn anyone I know if I see anything like that.”

      Even though Bob wouldn’t know a pyramid scheme if it bit him in the ass, the good news is the rest of us would. So, the fact we are not dependent on Bob to warn us is OK in my book.

      “4) People who look for people to join a business no matter what it is, without looking out for their best interest are misguided. I agree.”

      It’s good to see that Bob acknowledges his misguided status. The next step is to get him to do something about it.

      “5) If we were to truly talk about scams, hypocrites, and mean spirited people we would be talking about what you see on the news everyday. Not taking advantage of a few people who have an axe to grind who will predictably and continually expose their angry bias.”

      Now, I can’t say I agree with this last statement but I certainly can’t disagree with it as the statement doesn’t make a lick of sense to me.

1321. Comment by Bob | August 18th, 2009

      Beavis,

      Exactly what have you accomplished since you started posting in this blog?

      Your anti Droobli tattoos are obvious.

1322. Comment by justabigjoke | August 18th, 2009

      Dont think he has accomplished anything Bob.. I think he is lonely and a very sad person. I bet he is either divorced or single and broke and blaims just about everyone for his own personal prediciment

1323. Comment by beavis | August 18th, 2009

      Bob said:

      “Exactly what have you accomplished since you started posting in this blog?”

      Pointed out to the world what a bunch of jackasses you Drooblidiots are while at the same time kept myself very entertained.

      Spunkmonkey said:

      “Dont think he has accomplished anything Bob.. I think he is lonely and a very sad person. I bet he is either divorced or single and broke and blaims just about everyone for his own personal prediciment”

      Once again, Spunkmonkey sees what others don’t. I thought I was an It professional with his own business, a family and substantial assets. Damn, now I’m depressed. But I do have one saving grace; I didn’t get so desperate that I’d give $3,199 to Droobli so I could get a made up title and a false dream. Thanks, Spunkmonkey, for your insight. May the spunk be with you.

1324. Comment by Micah Kudrow | August 19th, 2009

      Bob is such a jerk. Look, you moron … Cara was tripped up because she said she didn’t read the posts and then she said a few sentences on that the posts were hilarious (thus indicating she had read the posts). Do you now see the contradiction Bob? Are you particularly intellectually challenged or something? Seriously?

      Typical drooblidiots. Droobli really scrapes the bottom of the barrel with its “personnel”.

1325. Comment by Dublin Hating Mob | August 19th, 2009

      Micah, droobli scrapes the bottom of the barrel. Successful people have real jobs. They succeed in those jobs and get along with others. Droobli is littered with job failures. People who can’t really perform and they’ve heard too many motivational tapes and CDs.

      Judging by the posts here I’d say drooblidiots are the jerky type who everyone in the company hates. The loser type. The are poor performers. Then they get involved in snake oil get-rich-quick schemes like droobli. They say they do it by choice. Usually they do it because they have no other choice. They don’t fit in in companies and they have little education or training. Plus they have average and lower than average IQs which makes them vulnerable to the droobli spin doctors.

      They are like the guy in “Death of a Salesman” – perennial losers always making excuses.

      And yes, droobli is a pyramid scheme that requires an ever-increasing amount of suckers. Droobli is a scam that will fail no matter how many times they launch.

1326. Comment by Gene | August 19th, 2009

      People that come on here with all this name calling better take a look in the mirror and see what kind of people they are. The pot calling the kettle black. It’s so obvious of the caliber of humans are who stoop so low and lick the slop in this cesspool. People who don’t like anyone to succeed in anything which have a distorted view of reality with false flags on their bed posts. I wonder how their kids live life with them, if they even have any. Poor souls. I wonder if they ever get anything done around their homes while they pick things apart saying it can’t be done. This blog is a farce.

      The true character is revealed here. Parrots aimlessly attacking attempting to be knowledgeable about something which will take the Internet by storm and help those who really understand what we have to make some extra money to help put their kids through college or buy a new car or fix up their home or even buy one. So it goes. They bring up the word greed as if some tenet of a quasi-religious cult of fanatics. It’s a good thing we don’t have to be sucked into their loser disposition and keep on building.

      We’re still building but they’re ready to tear down the walls with suspicious minds and imagine all kind of false premises without reason. These kind are already losers. Don’t be one of them. The world still turns whether they like it or not. Launch on!

1327. Comment by tonyome | August 19th, 2009

      Thought I’d let everyone know – I recently flew on USAir and in the August 2009 issue of USAir magazine, the one that is in the seat pocket, Droobli has purchased a full page ad trying to send people to their website and promising “up to” 98% discounts on merchandise. It sounded like a scam right off, so I did a search, and behold, found this site. Glad I did before doing anything stupid.

1328. Comment by Bob | August 19th, 2009

      Tonyome,
      Sorry you did not go to the site and find that it was true.

1329. Comment by beavis | August 19th, 2009

      Unless you are one of bidders that loses – the majority being just that. Nothing like paying to bid. I love how Drooblidiots time after time ignore the unsuccessful bidders as if their loss doesn’t count. I use to think Drooblidiots were simply idiots; now I realize they may be idiots but they are cognizant enough to commit deceit. I might not treat them so politely in the future as I have done in the past

1330. Comment by Gene | August 19th, 2009

      Are you an idiot beav?

1331. Comment by beavis | August 20th, 2009

      Oh, a talking sheep. How unique.

1332. Comment by Dublin Hating Mob | August 20th, 2009

      Droobli is a curse on the planet. Let’s get rid of it now. These people are so brainwashed they think they’re helping. They’re just greedy.

      Gene. you’re building nothing you moron. You’re just a greedy schmuck trying to get rich off the poor suckers who will idiotically spend 80 cents each time they want to check a price. Is that even legal?

      Gene you’re building nothing. Can you understand that? You’re just a greedy s.o.b. who’d do anything for money. Your type are disgusting. You don’t care who you hurt.

1333. Comment by Gene | August 20th, 2009

      how ridiculous and digusting parrots here are.
      D H M tell me what greedy is schmuck.

1334. Comment by tonyome | August 20th, 2009

      Bob, I did go to the website. I went to “funshoppingnow.com” and it sounded like a late night informercial saying you could get rich working at home. That’s when I got suspicious and when I put in “droobli scam” on the search engine I got thousands of hits. And I don’t know why I would want to pay 80 cents to check the price of something when I can go on EBay and do it for free. If you check a lot of the electronics and computer prices on Ebay, they can also be very low.

1335. Comment by Gene | August 20th, 2009

      Well beav is imagining sheep it seems so. Talk about
      someone with the wool pulled over his eyes..

1336. Comment by Gene | August 20th, 2009

      Hey tonyone you can put scam with about any company out there and get the same results. Type in the word “scam” next to your favorite company, including ebay.

      I am sorry were you born yesterday?

      We have to type it in pretty slow for you eagle don’t we?

1337. Comment by Only Facts | August 20th, 2009

      I find I have some time up my sleave so thought I would go back and look at some of Gene’s pasts posts. I like to call them “THE BEST OF GENE part 1″.

      Comment 65. October 08

      In reference to the bankruptcy of Droobli Denmark and Spain.

      “Well show us documentation of a collapse”. Have done do you believe it now?

      “I wouldn’t call the auctions a lottery…..” Two out of three are Gene do you agree? And if not why?

      “Even if you spend 100 credits or $80 worth & saved $500….” Are you seriously telling people to spend $80 cash to maybe get the camera? And if so how does this make sense to you?

      “Have you ever bought anything in the auctions….” Yes but I have never paid admission. Have you?

      Comment 75. November 08

      “All it’s offices are not established here”. That’s 10 months ago. When will they. Oh that’s right soon.

      Comment 80. November 08

      “I’ve emailed the Attorney Generals office myself & hope to hear soon”. How did that work out for you?

      Comment 91. November 08

      “I don’t believe Bobby Jensen bankrupted any corporations”. Do you now?

      Comment 173. December 08

      “You are the only one wanting something for nothing”. Hang on, your making money in your sleep are you not?

      Comment 196. December 08

      “We don’t have any competition with our reverse auction”! Have you looked this up and found your mistaken yet.

      Just thought a little re-cap may bring a smile.

1338. Comment by Paul Lorenson | August 20th, 2009

      Only Facts does exactly that – provides the real facts that can’t be disputed. The only reason the drooblidiots dispute them is because they make money off any sucker who joins up and spends money. Naturally droobli doesn’t want any bad press. But, “only facts” points out, droobli is flawed at its core and will not fly.

      No one, except a droobli BA who’s been given free credits (as part of the sign up fee), would pay 80 cents to check a price.

      no one would do it. I’ve run the droobli “concept” past some friends. They all laugh. It’s moronic. No one is stupid enough to think it’s reasonable.

      Investors beware. You’ll lose your money. And your friends. Run awy from pyramid schemes.

      Droobli is the worst. It’s a scam.

1339. Comment by Gene | August 20th, 2009

1340. Comment by tonyome | August 21st, 2009

      Hey Gene, have you of trying to use reason and logic to convince me that Droobli is a good operation? Somehow, insulting me in posts isn’t going to exactly convince me to believe everything you say. And like I said, enter “Droobli Scam” on your search engine and you will find tons of sites saying the same things that this site is saying. That’s an immediate red flag.

1341. Comment by tonyome | August 21st, 2009

      Hey Gene, just checked out your website. What the going on with all the bright colors? Are you trying to attract pre teens or what? Please change the color scheme, today if you don’t mind, and make it look more professional so that I might possibly be able to read it. And what exactly is a “Licensed Independent Representative” anyway? Title sounds very important. On Ebay we just say “Seller”.

1342. Comment by beavis | August 21st, 2009

      “Licensed Independent Representative”

      Licensed – license issued by Droobli to only the most qualified individuals (in other words, do you have the dinero)

      Independent – we’re sure the hell not going to share in the real profit, therefore, you are independent.

      Representative – we’ll keep our physical presence off your shores just in case somebody comes a’lookin’. Should things get dicey, you will be our representative (after our lawyer and our accountant joins us in the Caymans).

1343. Comment by Gene | August 21st, 2009

      Naw, I don’t need professional. What’s professional anyway? Just read it and weep.

      It does the job. Hey I am just a carpenter anyway. Rough framing you know.

1344. Comment by Gene | August 21st, 2009

      Hey Beav you like the Cayman idea? Pretty cool don’t ya think?
      And tonyome should I worry about insulting you? Just answer my question is that an insult? Yesterdays man. Yeah there’s a lot of them here with you beav. You Can’t seem to figure it out we got the new thing on the block. Were you born yesterday, was the question?

      Eagle why edit me and Bob so much. If it weren’t for me you wouldn’t have much of a blog. You should thank me.

      Hey guys really we’ve got a great growing program here why don’t you get on a webinar sign up and let’s get you going? A once in a life time deal here.

1345. Comment by Dublin Hating Mob | August 22nd, 2009

      Gene is an idiot. What a loser. He pretends he’s making so much money from droobli. What a liar. Gene you’re an evil man. Syop what you’re doing. Leave people alone.

      Stop using crappy phrases like “once in a lifetime deal”. Have you made a “once in a lifetime deal”? No you haven’t you evil creep. So why are you trying to suck others into droobli.

      How much did you make from droobli last week? C’mon answer me you creepy little man. Why not the truth? You can’t lie on a Saturday, can you. Let your wife get on here and answer the question you hopeless jerk.

      How much did you make from droobli last week? That is the question little boy. Stop talking the crappy phrases and just answer the question, moron.

      Droobli is a scam and droobli people would do anything to make money. They are loser people who’ve lost at life. Their greed makes me sick.

      Don’t have anything to do with droobli.

1346. Comment by J.E. Trott | August 22nd, 2009

      Yeah, Mob, droobli is a scam and those losers make nothing. Great way to blow your dough and lose friends. Droobli is for idiots. No one wants it. It’s unnecessary. We have enough access to stuff. We don’t need droobli.

      It’s just a scam. I have first hand knowledge. I lost my money. $3000 bucks for nothing. Gene loves the sound of the word webinar. They are just hard sell jobs. Stay away from them. They don’t want you to think for yourself or have scruples.

      That’s why I failed in droobli. There are things I won’t do. Gene must have no conscience. I met a lot like that.

      Don’t do what I did. Stay away from droobli.

1347. Comment by Bob | August 22nd, 2009

      Beavis,
      “If I agreed with you we’d both be wrong”…
      (Just checking to see if my posting privileges are still revoked)

1348. Comment by Bob | August 22nd, 2009

      I still can’t post my response for Tonyome.
      I have rewritten it a dozen times to provide helpful info…
      The information on this site is edited.

1349. Comment by beavis | August 22nd, 2009

      Try not cutting and pasting the Droobli sales brochure, Bob. Avoid redundant information on how the auctions work, how an MLM works, etc.; we already know all of that. Try posting about things people on this blog want answered like “why is Droobli’s auction numbers still so low?” or “how come you have to buy tokens or credits with redemption restrictions?”. I know why you don’t do this as the answers to those kinds of questions tear Droobli to shreds; but, thats why we are here, to flush this stuff out.

1350. Comment by David Lang | August 22nd, 2009

      Everything with Droobli is so complex. I smell a rat. Multi-level marketing companies do it to hide the money trail. When I want to buy something I’ll just go and buy it.

      I don’t want all the complicated crap that droobli seems to generate by the bucket load.

      The idea won’t fly. Who wants to read all the red tape? Why do we need Gene’s oft-quoted ‘webinar’? Like thousand of others who some former friend has tried to con into droobli, NO THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1351. Comment by Gil Petersen | August 22nd, 2009

      I agree with David. Droobli is stupid and won’t work. Oh. it will work for a while. They will make it look like that.

      I also like the “former friend” comment. If anyone tries to make me join droobli they are no longer a friend. Even if it’s a family member or relative. I don’t want anything to do with losers who think droobli is an honourable way to make money.

1352. Comment by Bob | August 22nd, 2009

      Redundant?
      Facts are only redundant to those who choose to twist them.
      And get their excitement in doing so.
      Look on GroobLi .com for the facts. Not here.

      Droobli actions are what they are until we do the global launch period…who ever said they were supposed to be ????
      I don’t think you have a clue as to what the corporate business model and plan is.

      We are not in the customer phase yet…. sure there are a few, but it takes gifting of tens of millions of credits to get that going to where there is a huge buzz.

      Nobody cut and pasted anything by the way…there was a guy who needed clarification.

      My posts have been rejected for a few days… I have tried many variations of them!

      BTW redemption restrictions? Give me a break. Go buy anything, any membership etc. and compare apples to apples.

      I wish I got a redemption on my 4 thousand dollar Direct Buy membership…but no; there are Terms and Conditions, just like any company on the planet. I simply read the T&C’s… buy and use it.

1353. Comment by Gene | August 22nd, 2009

      Droobli Hating Mob your’re just so sweet. How much do you think I make?

1354. Comment by beavis | August 22nd, 2009

      Bob, Bob, I’m dying right now LOL LOL

      “Facts are only redundant to those who choose to twist them.”

      What does that mean? I mean, really, what does it mean?

      “Droobli actions are what they are until we do the global launch period”

      Oh, kill me, another Droobli launch!?

      “I don’t think you have a clue as to what the corporate business model and plan is.”

      You’re right, Bob, I really don’t have a clue as to what the corporate business model and plan is. Maybe after a dozen or more “launches” I’ll get it.

      “We are not in the customer phase yet…. sure there are a few, but it takes gifting of tens of millions of credits to get that going to where there is a huge buzz.”

      So let me get this right, you Drooblidiots have to front literally tens of millions of dollars for Droobli tokens before you have any chance of this “business opportunity” to pan out. Fuck me. You are truly all special LOL

      I’m sorry, Bob, but you and your fellow Drooblidiots have been beaten severely with the stupid stick. All of you accusing these fools of being scammers grossly overestimate them. . . they’re just stoooooopid!

1355. Comment by Bob | August 22nd, 2009

      What do yo mean multiple launches…….your delerious.

1356. Comment by Bob | August 22nd, 2009

      oops…..”delirious” I can see it now. I am sorry I was not perfect for you.

1357. Comment by luke | August 22nd, 2009

      Ah, droobli aside this page is attracting a lot of the scammy spam in your adwords panel, maybe you should do something about that.

1358. Comment by justabigjoke Aka Spunkmonkey. | August 22nd, 2009

      No Bob..this forum is Hilarious

      Not Delirious

      About 5 people just keep repeating themselves over and over again. Very sad

      I,m just another GroobLi associate working from home.

      Regards

      Spunkmonkey (I looked in the English dictionary, Surprise Surprise no such word)

      Beav.. Yes you truly are a Butthead.. I laugh when I type that. Makes my day!

1359. Comment by beavis | August 22nd, 2009

      Try the Urban dictionary definition number one, Spunkmonkey.

      http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spunk+monkey

      Or here, I’ll save you the trouble:

      “A girl who, whilst normal in other sexual respects, makes ape-like sounds when receiving sperm in her face.”

      Hail Spunkmonkey!

1360. Comment by Gil Petersen | August 23rd, 2009

      Hey Bob …. in post 1355 you said “your delirious”. The “your” part was wrong. It should be “you’re” as in “you are”.

      This is what I mean. Droobli appeals to people with no education. Like Bob must be a high school drop out to not know a word like “you’re”. It’s pretty basic isn’t it.

      It’s the losers who are drawn to droobli. What other choices do they have in life?

      Droobli is a scam. Get out while you can and go back to school for an education.

1361. Comment by Gil Petersen | August 23rd, 2009

      Also, Gene is a real creep for a Seventh Day Adventist.

1362. Comment by Gene | August 23rd, 2009

      Gil or another one of your aliases beav you have great scruples for a creep caller. And what does my faith have to do with it? Have I disavowed it in any way? And how do you define creep? So do you have any faith? If so what is it? On the contrary this business appeals to educated people. They can see the vision. I realize we are wasting our time here with most that post here but unfortunately with your keywords many educated people may gander at this blog.
      I mean it’s an online store for goodness sakes. I haven’t been scammed have you? Just to set you straight on the moral issues,

      But thou shalt remember the LORD thy God: for [it is] he that giveth thee power to get wealth, that he may establish his covenant which he sware unto thy fathers, as [it is] this day. Deu 8:18

      If I do or if I don’t God’s gives the ability.

      Hoarded wealth is not merely useless, it is a curse. I have no pleasure in hoarding it. In this life it is a snare to the soul, drawing the affections away from the heavenly treasure. In the great day of God its witness to unused talents and neglected opportunities will condemn its possessor. The Scripture says, “Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you. Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten. Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall bear witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days. Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth; and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth.” James 5:1-4.

      Many who might be fruitful in God’s service become bent on acquiring wealth. Their whole energy is absorbed in business enterprises, and they feel obliged to neglect things of a spiritual nature. I do not. Thus they separate themselves from God. . . . We are to labor that we may impart to those in need. Christians must work, they must engage in business, and they can do this without committing sin. But many become so absorbed in business that they have no time for prayer, no time for the study of the Bible, no time to seek and serve God.
      So Gill keep this all in mine. We are not to bury our talents. The company is not a scam. You are miss guided.

1363. Comment by Gene | August 23rd, 2009

      Gil / beav. That is, God gives the ability. Again Gil or beav. Do you think we should all take a vow of poverty? Why don’t you read the book of Job! He was a rich man of faith.
      Or don’t you have time to study the Bible?

1364. Comment by Gene | August 23rd, 2009

      Keep it all in mind!

1365. Comment by Gene | August 23rd, 2009

      Oh beav by the way it is taking a while to garner the customers in order for the auctions to work top notch. We have to have a certain number you understand. Bob fill us in on that. You’re not helping matters. I bet you take great pride in trying to hinder progress. But it doesn’t matter. It will work. It’s not a scam. It may take more time given the current economic situation and like Edison if the bulb doesn’t work try again. But of course most educated people understand that. You take great pleasure in finding all the faults you can in a growing business and capitalize when all doesn’t go as planned. I suppose you’d trip Edison on his way to try again with a fiendish smile and razed brows. Anyway eagle I am giving you more content. Hope you’re happy.

1366. Comment by beavis | August 23rd, 2009

      Gene said:

      “Gil or another one of your aliases beav”

      Gene, I have defended you as not being immoral. Time after time I’ve said you are a pawn, a victim and most commonly, a stupid sheep. I’ve pointed out it is your gullibility that has lead you on this fool’s quest. I honestly don’t think you get it when the facts are laid out to you. Being stupid is not being immoral. Therefore, please quit inserting my name when others accuse you of being immoral. And by the way, try answering one of the questions that deals with the fundamentals about Droobli; you know, like how many decades and millions of dollars of BA fronted money is Droobli saying it will take to get this supposed “brilliant concept” off of the ground. If you can’t answer these questions you have failed in you due diligence and really don’t have a plan; just a concept; one that have acted upon prematurely.

1367. Comment by Paul Lorenson | August 23rd, 2009

      Gene, you said you’re wasting your time with most who post here. Doesn’t that tell you something. You’re only positive about droobli because your God is money and the more people you can suck into droobli the more money you make.

      C’mon Gene just confess to that. You don’t believe spending 80 cents to check prices in an auction is a brilliant business idea? You don’t really but you have to say it to try to get more people to join so you make money.

      Before God Gene be honest. Stop compromising your faith. Either you’re a Christian, washed in the blood or your a money-loving cretin who seeks to rip off others.

      If you’re a Christian get out of droobli. It stinks. God’s not into gambling.

1368. Comment by Gene | August 23rd, 2009

      Paul/beav, that is your opinion not mine whether my posts are a waste of time. I don’t see any gambling here. But I think the company would like you to think that. God took a chance on you didn’t he? I guess time will tell won’t it? I think it’s a great company now how are you going to handle that. It’s my word against your. And who is your God Paul/beav with your lying accusations that are baseless? You don’t know me or my motives. Wouldn’t you call that judging? Need to confess your errors here and now . You better not drive a car to the store walking is better for you. Those cars are scams aren’t they those dirty new fangled devices that can save you time and money. Hey that’s what the company will do for you too. Why can’t you see that? Beav don’t try to trip us up anymore you have no real rational. But how can I say this nicely? You need help that’s what I’ll say. Like I said many educated people would check out the Internet and maybe use just two keywords and find this cesspool of a blog and

      see that all you do here is attack character and make up lies. If you were educated you would know you deal in fallacies. So beav watch those false flags wave on you bed posts and dream on.

1369. Comment by Bob | August 23rd, 2009

      Hmmmm,

      A friend says:

      “I just found out a way to get $100 gift certificates at our local restaurants for 40 bucks any day of the week!”

      “I just found a website where things start at the lowest price on the internet and then go down instead of up every time people bid.”

      He shares the site with me because he gets free credits, I become a customer, and do the same.

      That’s the tip of the global iceberg.

1370. Comment by Only Facts | August 23rd, 2009

      Bob.
      I think your friend should look around a bit. As I have proven on this site twice now, as I only have looked twice, things don’t start at the powest price on the internet. This is a simple fact.

      Please Bob, without resorting to Droobli doctorine can you give me 5 good reason why anybody should join Droobli. Reasons from your mind.

1371. Comment by beavis | August 23rd, 2009

      Bob & Gene,

      You still haven’t answered the magic question:

      “How many decades and millions of dollars of Droobli Business Associate (aka “Drooblidiot”) fronted money is Droobli saying it will take to get this supposed “brilliant concept” off of the ground?”

      I know you don’t know the answer because neither of you has enough gray matter to ask questions like this. It is so much easier to trust and follow than to question. You are model sheep.

1372. Comment by Gil Petersen | August 24th, 2009

      Sometimes the drooblidiots like to say “Droobli will bury ebay”. If that’s not hilarious enough, then the drooblidiots attack anyone claiming that is false. Their main criticism is anyone who finds the notion of droobli destroying ebay hilarious must be ‘working for” ebay.

      But that is the sad part for the drooblidiots. Ebay doesn’t need PR personnal. Ebay doesn’t need spin. You use it or not. There are no levels. There is no one trying to get their friends and family to join up. There are no gold levels, no Vice presidents, no $1 million prize offerings, no supposed hotels in the Caymans, no Bentley cars to give away, no credits, no teams, no webinars etc.

      Ebay doesn’t need it. Oh, by the way, I don’t work for droobli. I’ve bought about $300 from ebay. Not exactly a major player.

      Droobli is a scam. and the droobli hating mob grows by the second.

1373. Comment by Gene | August 24th, 2009

      Yeah well that’s tooooo bad Gil/beav!

1374. Comment by Bob | August 24th, 2009

      Only Facts,

      Yes they are actually the lowest price, hence the “Lowest Price Guarantee” besides if someone beats the price, simply take them up on their guarantee.

      I can give you my 5 reasons:

      1) To get paid on thousands of customers in every country in the world.

      2) To spend more time with my family and get paid doing it.

      3) To help charities raise money (30% revenue share). We offer them a branded portal which saves their members money on things they already do; in effect giving their members another way to give to the charity. The members then refer the charities portal to their friends, which helps brand the charity, and spread the word.

      4) To get paid on thousands of customers from the Charities.

      5) Lastly if someone wants to get the same results from things they do in their life they can simply keep doing the same things. Droobli is not for most people, only those who are entrepreneurial and want to take advantage of a huge expanding global market. If they want to take advantage of getting an extra paycheck every month, they can try GroobLi. If they want to make more money than they ever have made, they can do that as well. My last reason is to never worry about money again.

      People say all kinds of things because we deal with all kinds of people. There is not much we can do about that, those people will always be with us. Most people do not agree with the negative stuff on this site however. We can look at GroobLi for what it is and make our own judgment based on what we see. Based on fact, and not a few negative opinions.

      I do not police this site, as I am busy taking advantage of Droobli’s global expansion. I do not share the opinions on this site, but simply wanted to provide balance and let a few people researching GroobLi know this site is no authurity on the subject.

      BTW; it would be silly to try to answer Beavis on anything

      Time to get back to work… hope this helps

1375. Comment by Only Facts | August 24th, 2009

      Thanks for your reply Bob. I am always interested in why people join MLM’s and or Network Marketing.

      Generally, people who join these organisations have been involved in similar systems in the past and have a tendency to shift from one MLM to another quiet frequently. Reason being is they like the idea of doing less for more, or are susceptible to the doctrine that is always associated. Terms like easy, secret, success, what the others don’t want you to know, I made $????? in one month so can you and the promise of massive sales, commissions or other financial advancements are the thread that binds all these get rich quick schemes together. Now I’m not saying you are one of these people, which is why I was curious in your reasons. I would however like to address several issues.

      Bob said..

      ” Yes they are actually the lowest price hence the lowest price guaranteed”.

      I’m sorry Bob theyr’e not. Lets take the Zero and Unique bid out of the picture, because basically their just a joke or what the Droobli recruitment officers call a hook, I will address that later.

      Currently there is an Apple Imac 24in. Starting price $1439.00. Try this site the prices range from

      From $1149.00 to $1199.00

      http://gdgt.com/apple/imac/intel/2nd-gen/24-inch/Michael

      So if I buy it at the start of the auction the lowest price guarantee or “Best price guarantee” is out the window. This statement is misleading. As far as the guarantee itself, this has become such a huge sales gimmick for companies around the world and is as easy to by-pass by simply adding something of little value ($2.00 per of headphones) or removing something. The item will then never be the same. They also rely on the fact that people will take the guarantee at face value and not bother even checking it out. This is a fact, and a known sales gimmick. Not saying Droobli should be crucified for doing it, it’s either misleading or bad research. Either way it’s not good.

1376. Comment by beavis | August 24th, 2009

      Only Facts,

      Also somewhere along the line they slipped in “local” for the price match.

      Bob said:

      “BTW; it would be silly to try to answer Beavis on anything”

      Yes but it would entertaining to watch you try (sheep are notoriously bad at debates).

1377. Comment by Bob | August 24th, 2009

      Only Facts,
      With all due respect…this is not the forum for whether network Marketing is a legitimate business (although Droobli is a hybrid customer based business model anyway) perhaps I can help you to understand the biz model some other time…you at least deserve so see beyond the stigma.

      I get paid for doing what you are doing for free…that’s the difference. People recommend things to their friends all the time it is the oldest and most powerful form of advertising.

      I work very hard at anything I do and teach others to do the same. Droobli pays quite nicely to people who create a huge customer base, just like any other business. My cup is overflowing and not half full…like Beavis…(yes there is hope for him too)

      First of all your link did not work.
      Second of all you need to compare “Apples to Apples” (pardon the pun)

      What Droobli has on the site is a Apple iMac 24inch MB418LL/A

      Not an Apple iMac 24inch MB417LL/A (which I found a few on other sites for about $1150. or so)

      Droobli’s start price: $1439. (actual price if you were a customer $1361.50 when I checked…probably much lower now unless someone bought it already)

      Amazon.com: $1,458.98
      Apple store: starting at $1499.00

      Everyone knows it is almost impossible to get apple stuff much cheaper than you find on the Apple Store itself… so Amazon did pretty good….but Droobli is lower. At the moment much lower!

1378. Comment by Only Facts | August 24th, 2009

      Bob
      Sorry about the link try this one.
      http://www.onsale.com/ttsvr/s?rch&q=mb418ll%2Fa&includeImage=true
      $1348.98
      The more you look the more you find.I would probably be able to find many more cheaper if I wanted to look.
      In reality it’s not hard find it cheaper than at an apple store. There are so many internet shopping malls now they are all selling them cheaper. Thats the point. And it cost you nothing to look at. Again there is nothing innovative about Droobli.

1379. Comment by Bob | August 24th, 2009

      Only Facts,
      Good work,
      Yes it takes time to look. That particular one has a $90 mail in rebate which is why it is so low. you still have to shell out the $1438. for 6 weeks.

      But luckily “On Sale” is a merchant in the Droobli mall. So you can save an additional 2% going through there.

      So the common sense thing to do would be to go through the Mall.

      But if one chose to they could get the difference plus 10% since Droobli will honor the price guarantee.

      But Before that it would make even more sense get some free credits first by recommending a friend to see if you can get it for half off. Or even buy a few.

      As a Droobli customer I will always have a few credits on hand, and I will always get free ones too.

      I do not take lightly the fact that a percentage of the worlds population will do the same.

      That’s pretty innovative.
      hope that helps…

1380. Comment by Only Facts | August 24th, 2009

      Hey Bob

      Have a look at this.
      This is only one of many that will be Drooblis competition in Australia.

      http://www.bidrivals.com/au/?gclid=CIWmrYiKvpwCFYctpAodCywstA

1381. Comment by beavis | August 24th, 2009

      Bob said:

      “But luckily “On Sale” is a merchant in the Droobli mall. So you can save an additional 2% going through there.”

      Have you seen the financials of the mall boys that run Droobli’s “worldwide shopping portal”? What a joke! Talk about a burn rate! These fools can turn a million dollars into a a dollar meal in the blink of an eye. Every dollar these geniuses touch turns into pennies and Droobli has the foresight to marry these stupid bitches. Droobli and MediocreNet; the Titanic and the Hindenburg become one. I once had an Afghan Hound which is considered the stupidest of 79 breeds; Drooblidiots are number 80.

1382. Comment by Mandy Wilson | August 25th, 2009

      Bob is an absolute idiot and a pathetic liar. The guy who claims to get paid for doing nothing also stated he doesn’t have time to read this site because he has to go back to work”. Bob has so many contradictions in his idiotic posts.

      And would you morons stop discussing saving 5 to 10 % on the price of a laptop ??? Would you stop it ???? Any store will give you 10% off anything if you ask for it …..

      Droobli attracts morons like Bob. He claims to have built a huge customer base and droobli rewards him like a dog. What a liar!!! With his personality people would run for miles when they see him coming.

      Bob I challenge you to give me the names and phone numbers of three of your so-called firends so i can call them and see how stunning you are in your community.

      The life Bob and Gene have created for themselves is just a myth. They want to sell droobli 24/7 because it is a pyramid scheme and they make more money for everyone who joins. They want to appear successful. But they are pathetic losers who try to use everyone they meet. Bob and Gene I despise your type. You’re greedy and don’t care who you hurt. You’re evil people who have made money your god.

      Let’s hope droobli falls over soon.

1383. Comment by Bob | August 25th, 2009

      Ahhhem…
      Get paid for doing nothing? I work harder than most people I know. Droobli is my work, and proud of it.

      I have spend a few fleeting moments on here for the past month or so. Less time than it takes to go through a drive through. Especially after I realized people were Googling GroobLi, and finding this decay. The posts I have made were for them.

      The content Only Facts and I were discussing was actually bordering on constructive, and relevant content. Not schoolyard name hurling. (Which I suppose is more entertaining to some…lol.)

      BTW Only Facts I have seen that site and several other mom and pop sites like that. I suppose there will always be things like that that pop up. No comparison though since it is completely different.

      They are games where people compete against one another. You can’t buy the item when you want so there is no practicality.

      Droobli gives value and excitement to the customer. Their goal is to build the customer base into the tens of millions fairly quickly which will then be a platform for many other layers of excitement and value.

      Imagine what you can do with real estate for example.

      Mandy:
      You first.

1384. Comment by Only Facts | August 25th, 2009

      In March Gene said, in resoponce to a post on Droobli low web traffic, take a look in a couple of months. It’s now been 5 months. Have a look. Pay attention to the shopping sites.

      It’s just not working

      http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/droobli.com

1385. Comment by beavis | August 25th, 2009

      Only Facts,

      I’m sure Gene will simply explain it away as “it is taking longer than anticipated but building a business takes time”.Then he will babble something he heard from a Droobli webinar. Then he will condemn all of us naysayers. He will never say anything of substance. Then Bob will chime in as if he is successful with this and also not say anything of substance. Then you or I or somebody else will hurl a few facts about this pyramid which will promptly be ignored by Droobli sheep. And when the Droobli pyramid collapses Gene and Bob will be the last holdouts, still believing in this “brilliant concept of a reverse auction; where prices go down, not up”.

1386. Comment by Mandy Wilson | August 26th, 2009

      Bo with his “mom and pop sites” phrasing …. who does this jerk think he is????? Mr e commerce ??? What a loser !!!!!!!

1387. Comment by Kevin J. Manders | August 26th, 2009

      Droobli stinks like a sewer. The alexa website which shows droobli website traffic is interesting. It shows very little traffic to the much-vaunted shopping sites.

      The reality is clear. Droobli is almost all BAs trying to get rich. There are no real shoppers.

      Now idiot Bob are you really “laughing out loud” or crying???

      ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

1388. Comment by Jason Hughes | August 26th, 2009

      Hey, Kevin … don’t tell the drooblidiots … they deserve to lose their dough ….

      They prop up the auctions with free credits …. no one is actually bidding seriously …. there’ virtually no interest in droobli as a shopping site …. hey, drooblidiots get this PEOPLE BIDDING FREE CREDITS DOESN’T SPELL SUCCESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1389. Comment by Mike Jones | August 26th, 2009

      I’m so over Bob and Gene. They’re drooblidiots who only know drooblispeak. They have been so brainwashed. They try to be big businessmen but they are just kids playing in the sand box. They like the language of ‘launch’, ‘global portal’, ‘exciting’, ‘building a business’, ‘unique, ‘webinar’, ‘make money while you sleep’, etc. But it all means nothing. It is just a grubby pyramid scam that needs more people to enter in and spend their $3000 bucks.

      It all appeals to a certain type of person. The kind no one likes because you try to use everyone you meet. Gene and Bob go around telling everyone about droobli like it’s the gospel.

      Please everyone – stay away from droobli. It’s a scam. It will never destroy ebay like they say. On this site there are already hundreds of people warning about droobli. Take the hint. Don’t let your greed get the better of you.

1390. Comment by Rob | August 26th, 2009

      There are some stats about completed Xpress and Unique Bid auctions at http://www.drooblicenter.com

1391. Comment by beavis | August 26th, 2009

      Reasons Droobli auction concept blows:

      1. Cost per purchase is much higher than retail after averaging in auctions where consumer loses.

      2. Price gurantee is with local merchants only.

      3. Selection is limited.

      4. Product desription accuracy is mediocre.

      5. Getting tokens, free or otherwise, includes a free Drooblidiot in your life (so not worth it).

      6. System is positioned for internal abuse (Unique Bid auction requires that you trust the auction house).

      7. Likleyhood of merchant’s survival is highly questionable.

      Did I miss anything?

1392. Comment by Only Facts | August 26th, 2009

      Rob
      Please don’t use Droobli sites to justify anything. If you can provide an independent site I will be more than happy to look at it. This in itself is the point. You will only find positive statements from Droobli itself. No where else.

      Can anyone out there let me know, how much percent (money) of items sold goes back to the BA’s. Would prefer to hear it from a Droobli person.

1393. Comment by Bob | August 26th, 2009

      Oh my goodness…you guys are in need of some facts.

      Would you rather be an early innovator in Droobli.com
      and get paid on thousands of people who shop online every day in every country in the world?

      Or an early innovator in the “spin factor”, and get your reward by calling people names, and pretending you know the business model?

      “Only Facts” got sucked into this because he has a brain, and asks intelligent questions.

      But all you other guys…well you will blast this, and reveal your bias.

      Only Facts:

      The % that goes back to BA’s is from 5-25%

      If I bring in a non profit for example, and brand a site for them, (which will expand their mission statement) and they have 1000 customers (members who are saving money and giving back to the charity).

      The charity makes a 30% revenue share, and I make 5-25% of the revenue share from all the people who are saving money.

      Guess what?

      I am helping that non profit, they are helping their valued members, and I get paid by helping making it happen for all of them.

      Hope this helps…

1394. Comment by beavis | August 26th, 2009

      Bob said:

      “Oh my goodness…you guys are in need of some facts.”

      Yes we are; now please provide some. How long do we have to watch Droobli dog paddle in circles before real progress is made in auction traffic? What will cause any projected upsurge of said traffic and do you have documented analysis to support this? We’ve all had enough of your “concept”. Droobli has been around for years now with little to show but a lot of hype. So far your concept hasn’t come to fruition and is trending nowhere. It’s time you jackoffs quit wasting our time and come up with something that makes sense. So, no more concept, show us a road map with time frames, projections and a fact based analysis to back it up. My guess is you don’t have the data or the analytical capacity to fulfill this. Gene, please don’t reply; it will most probably be a waste of your time and it will definitely be a waste of ours.

1395. Comment by Mike Jones | August 27th, 2009

      Bob you’re a liar. Your figures don’t make sense. There is no space in you percentages for wholesale cost of item, transport costs, droobli admin costs etc.

      You’re either an idiot or a liar. I suspect both.

      You make me sick with the charity angle. It’s just a con. You people are evil. You’d sell your mother to a dog food factory if they’d give you $10 a pound.

1396. Comment by one of hundreds | August 27th, 2009

      I’ve enjoyed reading this blog. Now I see I’m just one of hundreds of droobli haters. The idea stinks. It’s a scam. There are no real shoppers only Business Associates cashing in their free credits.

      But it’s the drooblispeak I love the most. It’s like watching “1884″ with newspeak. Like the overuse of the word “exciting”. Spending 80 cents to make a product go down 25 cents is not exciting. It’s stupid and only Business Associates will bid on stuff because they have free credits.

      It will fail. It’s not a “great business model”. It’s not “exciting”. Just because Gene and Bob keep repeating those corny phrases doesn’t make it so. You two are liars like all drooblidiots. You are evil how you try to con people. I’d love to meet you in person and give you a piece of my mind. I’m not saying what I really think of low life scum like Bob and Gene because children may come to this site. But I’d love to meet you in person.

1397. Comment by Paul Klee | August 27th, 2009

      Interesting to see the droobli results of their auctions. Thet list the initial price then what someone got the item for and finally the percentage saved.

      But what about all those people who spent their 80cents? Why not list all those who spent money trying to get the item? Then everyone will see that droobli is just a giant con.

1398. Comment by Bob | August 27th, 2009

      Paul,

      What about them?

      What about the people who got free credits from Droobli because they referred someone?

      What about the people who saved money in the mall, and bought some credits with their savings?

      What about the people who saved money by helping a non-profit make money?

      What about the people who got free credits from a friend who said “instead of buying from your favorite merchant directly, earn cash by doing it through the Droobli portal

      What about the people who buy a Costco membership and go there twice a year?

      What about the people who are early innovators…earning money by saving people money in every country in the world?

      I could go on but I am very busy…

1399. Comment by Dmistify | August 27th, 2009

      Holy hell,
      Weel if youv’e managed to get to this email then well done.
      I was offered Droobli by a work associate. Watched all the promos etc.Being a bit of a skeptic I wanted to research a bit more (which I’ve done).
      It boils done to this:
      * Droobli business model appears to work for the purchaser if they limit their bidding- may receive some discount.
      * Droobli business model doesn’t work appropriatley in a viable business sense.
      * Droobli as a Network “MLM” model works very well.

      In general the customer (purchaser) can achieve savings.
      The negative is that the “agenda” is not to provide the customer with savings but to market BA’s (Business associates) which continually on sell (BA’s) to others.

      It reminds me of another business which continues today which offers reasonable products at discounted prices, but the agenda is not so much to sell prducts bu to “Sell” the association membership to gain a percentage of sales.

      It can as we have seen be well argued by both sides.
      Fundamentally it boils down to the intent of the “Sale” what is being offered and at what price.

      Is Droobli’s main intent to provide a great price for the customer?
      Or is it’s main intent to Viral market BA’s?

      BTW. I won’t be signing up,…
      however if everyone on this topic sends me $100 USD I will give you a membership for which entitles you to get other people to sign up costing $100 each. You send me their $100 and I will pay you $80 for each member (ie. If you sign up 10 people you will receive $800 !!!) how easy is that?

      Please send money to “Someonewho really needs it.ohdear.notanotherscam.com”

      Dmistify

1400. Comment by beavis | August 27th, 2009

      I have an offer that is way better than Dmistfy’s, but it cost $1,000 USD to join. The good news is you’ll make ten times as much money!

1401. Comment by Dmistify | August 27th, 2009

      Bevis, Im in!
      Where do I sign up!

1402. Comment by Sapphire | August 27th, 2009

      Bob, you act like droobli is a humanitarian organization. Perhaps it should get a Nobel Prize for its charity work !!

      Bob you said these things below:

      What about the people who got free credits from Droobli because they referred someone?

      It’s all about money. People have to be induced to go to droobli and still the traffic is low.

      What about the people who saved money in the mall, and bought some credits with their savings?

      If they did they’re idiots. There are much better prices out there than droobli’s crummy little mall.

      What about the people who saved money by helping a non-profit make money?

      Was that their aim? To help a charity? I don’t think so. Every company gives to charity for their image.

      What about the people who got free credits from a friend who said “instead of buying from your favorite merchant directly, earn cash by doing it through the Droobli portal

      Sounds like a childish system to me. No one wants this stupid stuff. If you want to buy something just go and buy it. Forget credits etc.

      What about the people who buy a Costco membership and go there twice a year?

      What about them? It’s cheap food so what? What has that got to do with droobli? Oh, I see. You’re saying Costco’s system is as silly and complicated as droobli’s ? Don’t think so.

      What about the people who are early innovators…earning money by saving people money in every country in the world?

      “Early innovators”? What a laugh. How do you innovate Bob? Gee you droobli people love twisting the language. And what’s more you guys seem to believe your own lies.

      I could go on but I am very busy

      Busy ripping people off. No one asked you to come here with your lies.

1403. Comment by NewArrival | August 28th, 2009

      Searching for info on droobli – and found this!
      I’ts interresting how being online sometimes “brings out the beast”.
      I read through the articles to get info, but stopped…
      Most of You show very bad manners throwing accusations at each other and I will not waste another minute here.
      Is any working editor here??

      Good luck with the kindergarden.

1404. Comment by Martin | August 28th, 2009

      Just pulled some figures together from the eu.droobli.com site…

      Completed Xpress auctions in the last 18 days ie Aug 10-28

      25 sales at a total of about $6600

      Assume people save an average of 30% (which is a lot more than is actually happening and the bigger savings are on the cheapest products)- ie price was dropped by $2200.

      Price drops by 25 cents so this took 8800 clicks (ie 490 bids per day – for all of Europe Droobli)

      At the 80 cents which is a 55c profit margin to pay out to Droobli and Distributors (remember many of those credits are bought at wholesale so there is less margin in those) gives $5,400 in profit ie about $300 a day.

      But Europe currently says it drops 20 cents for a 50 cent click which makes the figures 11000 clicks for 3666 in profit ie $203 a day.

      The Europe Droobli is making a maximum theoretical profit of $200 a day on the main auction it runs!

      Where is the viral marketing in that for a massive shopping portal?

1405. Comment by undercoverbeavis | August 28th, 2009

      Martin,

      Based on your calculations and a little optimism, I believe there will be a day when Droobli can bring in $1 per day in gross profit for every Droobli BA it has. It’s a lofty goal and may take years to reach; but, within a decade or two or three, every Droobli BA should have his original investment back (minus the recurring yearly sign-ups of $3,199, of course). In fact, I’m willing to bet that if all the thousands of Droobli associates pooled their daily cut of the auctions they could buy a few cartons of cigarettes! I’m firmly convinced that this a is a sound business model for Bobby Jensen. Go Droobli!

1406. Comment by Paul Klee | August 28th, 2009

      The last few posts here show how idiotic droobli is. Why do the droobli people keep coming to this site and just keep repeating the droobli mantra? The droobli spin. I guess it’s because people drawn to droobli aren’t real business people. They are usually the losers in life with plenty of financial and social failures behind them. Normal people can see through this crap.

      How come I never hear mention in the global media about droobli? Not one mention. Does droobli really exist? I’m starting to think droobli actually doesn’t exist. That the whole point of the scam is to get people to join up and pay their fees.

      I think maybe there are no real auctions. Just made up names, made up products and made up details. Who’s to know?

      The volume of sales seems to be much lower than my local Best Buy store. How can anyone believe in this crap? You’d have to be a moron, surely?

      So the owner of my local Best Buy is bigger than the whole of droobli? How can anyone join this crap? Can someone tell me where they found all the morons to join it?

1407. Comment by beavis | August 29th, 2009

      Paul Klee,

      I haven’t seen an MLM formed in the last ten years that was not a thinly disguised pyramid scheme. So, you are starting off with “ethically challenged” founders right from the get go. The pyramid formula appeals to human nature; always has, always will. Right from the start a recruit gets a title that sounds impressive. The recruiting “BA” stays in constant contact with the recruited because they “truly, deeply” now care about this individuals success (the relationship is akin to a family). Then he or she joins the herd at a rally where the “feel good” hype is rampant. Webinars and “very important” conference calls continue to feed the businessman feeling and reinforce the BA’s need to believe. They play upon the BA’s need to belong, their desire for financial security, their ego, their greed and, finally, their sense of entitlement. Before you judge the Drooblidiots too harshly, remember, as I first mentioned, that MLM’s appeal to human nature. It takes a conscious effort to step away from the hype and feel good environment in order to examine the financial model. Things like “attrition rate” and “saturation” are not addressed in the company spiel. Now, I must say that the Drooblidiots here like Bob and Gene are pretty stubborn about clinging to the Droobli mantra. The financial fallacies of this particular MLM have been shown to them over and over, but they have steadfastly covered their eyes and shut off their brains whenever we take the time to show them what a farce this is. These two are both desperate and gullible, but I hesitate to condemn them; instead, I pity them because this MLM is going nowhere fast.

1408. Comment by Paul Klee | August 29th, 2009

      Beautifully written beavis. Is there anything Left to say?

      May droobli collapse soon.

1409. Comment by Gormless Youth | August 29th, 2009

      I agree with Paul – Beavis is brilliant. I will pay to have Post 1406 tattooed on Gene’s and Bob’s forehead.

      I also think Paul is onto something. Does droobli exist? Prove it.

      Do the hundreds of people here attacking it prove it’s existence? Look at the names of its defenders. “Bob” – ‘to bounce up and down’. And “Gene” – one of the building blocks of life. Surely these can’t be real names?

      I smell a rat. A really big stinking rat.

1410. Comment by Sapphire | August 31st, 2009

      I also believe that droobli doesn’t really exist. All the photoshopping in the world can’t convince me. I’ve never met anyone who’s heard of droobli. When I try to explain it to them they always just laugh. I can’t get any of my friends to believe droobli exists.

1411. Comment by Bob | September 1st, 2009

      Predictably this blog is self destructing.
      Most people don’t have time for this kind of entertainment and want facts.

      Most people simply become a customer, use a credit, buy something at a great deal, get a box in 2 days that says GroobLi on it, and recommend to their friends to do the same because they got a great deal, and get free credits by doing so.

      Of course that’s most people.

1412. Comment by Tim Cinel | September 1st, 2009

      Thanks for posting this article.

      Congrats on ranking #2 for the search term “Droobli” on Google! I have linked this site from my blog and bookmarked it on del.icio.us to try and keep it strong.

      The facts and analysis in your article confirmed my suspicions about this business. Though, it takes simple maths skills to determine that most networking opportunities only benefit a minority of members while exploiting the vast majority.

      Obvious Ponzi scheme is obvious.

1413. Comment by Only Facts | September 1st, 2009

      Thought this may be interesting

      http://www.funtasticbids.com/associate/OpinionLetter.html

1414. Comment by Martin | September 1st, 2009

      Only Facts – Comment 1115 links to that on this site, where the lawyer replied to the fact that this was ever allowed to be available publicly. He didn’t want it public.

      But it is being used for recruiting in Australia even today.

1415. Comment by Durango Mustafa | September 2nd, 2009

      It’s now time to declare ‘total war’ on droobli. This company doesn’t deserve to exist. It’s time to organize in the struggle against droobli. We need to keep blogging here and on other sites. We need to go on droobli sites and send critical emails to those sites. We must warn our friends against droobli. We need to picket any physical sites that droobli sets up in any state or country. We need to inform organizations about the evil of droobli. We need to contact “current affairs” type TV and radio programs and ask them to do a story on the droobli scam.

      My friends do not be faint hearted. The time is now to rid the world of these creeps.

      Do you have any other ideas to disrupt droobli? Please post them here. We don’t start this campaign to lose. Winning is our only goal. We will have won when droobli collapses. Don’t give up until the goal is achieved.

1416. Comment by justabigjokeI | September 2nd, 2009

      I hope you wake up at nite Durango having nitemares.. That would make my day or nite.

      How about hiring a 747 and have one of those adverts on the back of the aircraft?

      I have had 2 people contact me after they saw the advert in the Inflight magazines.. Scams always do a massive advertising campaign I guess. You guys here are the saddest I have come across. You just dont understand that the Auctions are not a prority for GroobLi. Thats just the doorway into the shopping mall.

1417. Comment by Only Facts | September 2nd, 2009

      justabigjoke

      Not wanting to speak for all, but I think what bothers the anti-Droobli people is the fact we can’t get our head around why anyone would invest money in a company who’s head has bankrupted 5 businesses, has a member of the management team that was heavily involved with 2 other MLM’s that were shut down when they were proven to be scams, Droobli’s own Lawyer has prepared an exit strategy in case the auctions are proven to be gambling, the shopping mall was on the verge of collapse until propped up by Droobli, the business has gone broke in Spain and Denmark, their claims of success have been proven to be vastly exaggerated, there is absolutely no positive independent press and through all the threats of legal action for defamation and suggestion of lies, Droobli has not been able to have this and other anti Droobli sites shut down. This in itself must mean that what is written on this and other sites is the truth. In fact Droobli has resorted to advise members not to visit this site and offer a financial incentive for any member that can get their site address on the first page of Google in an attempt to wipe this site from the front.

1418. Comment by Durango Mustafa | September 3rd, 2009

      We do not want to hear one more word from the drooblidiots. You horrible people have no right to speak. What you do is evil. Your greed has blinded you to the suffering you cause.

      Deep down you know droobli is a scam yet you continue to try to coerce others to get involved. You have no shame. You hurt your families and you don’t care.

1419. Comment by Todd Fotheringham | September 3rd, 2009

      I have a question.
      What happens when someone clicks to see the price.
      Is it then frozen for an amount of time so they can decide if they want to purchase at that price?
      Someone told me today that a Mercedes valued at $38000 was bought for $8000.
      On the basis of the 25c reduction in price per 80c click. Then someone must have clicked on and seen a price of say $8,100. Why would someone not buy at $8100!
      It sounds stupid.
      Or an ipod for $5. Why didnt someone buy it when they saw it for $6? Or $50 for that matter?
      Can anyone explain that?

1420. Comment by Durango Mustafa | September 3rd, 2009

      Todd you have uncovered the great lie that is droobli. You’re right someone must have clicked on that Mercedes when it was $8000.25. Yet they supposedly didn’t buy it.

      More than that Todd. Supposedly a group of people clicked
      120,000 times to bring the price down by $30,000. You know that didn’t happen.

      Spin, lies, deception, big promises etc. It’s all droobli’s stock and trade. No one wants the complicated crap that droobli is pushing. People just want to buy stuff when they want it.

      Droobli is a scam, Todd.

1421. Comment by Durango Mustafa | September 3rd, 2009

      Oh Todd you know that group of people droobli would have you believe clicked 120,000 times to bring the price down by $30,000? Well, to bring the price down to “save” $30,000 they spent $96, 000. (That’s 120, 000 X 60 cents)

      Droobli will fail because not that many people have no conscious to gain at others’ expense. So droobli sells a $38, 000 Benz for $104,000. ($96,000 + $8000) What do I care. It’s only the drooblidiots who are losing money.

1422. Comment by Durango Mustafa | September 3rd, 2009

      I meant times 80 cents not the 60 cents.

1423. Comment by Bob | September 3rd, 2009

      If you read the directions you will see that particular auction is (was) on the ‘unique bid’.

      Whoever is the lowest and unique bid wins the item
      You don’t ‘buy when the price is right’ like on the Xpress

      If you want to buy stuff when you want it then use the Xpress auction…and use the Mall.

      But at least read, or even listen to the directions by clicking the convenient audio.

      The only way people would lose money is if they just sat there and kept clicking for no apparent reason. and not use the credit as a valuable tool to have access to the lower price.

      Of course if someone did not read, or listen to the directions, and wasted their credits they might come here and call Droobli names as well.

1424. Comment by undercoverbeavis | September 3rd, 2009

      I like the Unique Bid auction. You can get a great deal provided the the auction house is honest and doesn’t use its insider information to allow it to rig the auction. Good thing we all trust Droobli implicitly as it is an honest organization that even has a bank account in Cyprus.

1425. Comment by Todd Fotheringham | September 3rd, 2009

      Thanks Bob.
      So on a unique bid auction. You need to bid a price that no one else bids. And if you are the lowest unique bid then u win.
      So if u are the lowest unique bidder at say $8000.25 is it safe to assume that almost all the bids under that had at least 2 people who bid the same number?
      So if 2 people bid the same number in increments of 25c up to $8000.25
      then thats about 64,000 bids.. Then you can assume more unique bids above that number. Say another 10-20,000.
      So at 80c a bid that means they collected maybe $60,000 for the Merc that was worth $38,000. Plus the winner has to pay the $8000. So they collect $68,000
      I dont get it?
      I mean id happily buy a raffle ticket for 80c and make a guess at a number to win a Merc. But then Ive got to pay my guess if I win.
      Sounds stupid. Why do people want to do that.
      Sure Id love to guess 75c and maybe win the Merc but what are my chances of that. Probably 100,000-1 and then the more people who sign up to play or are given free credits makes it more difficult for me to be the unique bidder. Making my chances even less.

      If the profits were going to charity id probably buy a raffle ticket but when I work out that someone is making big money for themselves and I have as much chance of winning lotto then why would I bother.. I dont get it. Have I missed something?

      Also if Im signed in by someone.. What do they get when I click my 80c bid?

1426. Comment by beavis | September 3rd, 2009

      Todd,

      Odds are numerous bids were placed at a substantial number of the increments; not just two. Droobli profit was much higher; the consumers took a real bath on this auction. Correction; the Droobli Business Associates bidding using their thousands of tokens they paid for took a bath. This MLM is such a major rip it amazes me. Thankfully the con is transparent to all with an IQ above 80.

1427. Comment by Todd Fotheringham | September 4th, 2009

      Yeh beavis I cant understand how people fall for it. A family member of mine has signed up a dozen people into her pyramid. And some of them have signed up people.
      Ive looked at the 3 ‘reverse auction’ games.
      The Xpress auction. Surely someone will buy when the price hits something like the street price. I mean say a $200 digital camera will get sold at say $150.
      Its never going to get down to a ridiculously cheap price.

      The Zero Auction.
      You win if u are the last person to bid it from 25c to zero. Well if it started at say $200. Thats 800 bids to get it to zero. 800 x 80c is $640. So they make $640 for a $200 item. And $200 is probably more than they paid.

      And the Unique auction as described above is a huge money maker for Droobli.

      Some of these people signed up are actually pretty intelligent. So they must all be getting involved for the pyramid money? They sign up someone who signs up someone and they keep making a cut.
      After a while this pyramid stuff destroys relationships.

      Again if Ive missed something someone let me know. But I just dont get the motivation of some people because in the end only the people at the top of the tree are making money.
      And each year they have to pay another annual fee?

1428. Comment by Paul Paul | September 4th, 2009

      Todd you know 15 people in droobli? I find that hard to believe. Droobli is a ghost town with people abandoning it faster than they are signing morons up.

      Droobli is on the mat and all we wait for is the referee call it out.

      Durango I like your idea of all-out war against droobli. I want to go and see Gene and Bob face to face. I’m sure we’d find lots to talk about, if you know what I mean.

1429. Comment by beavis - abuser of sheep | September 4th, 2009

      Guys, this is not a hate site; this is a Droobli is excrement site. The idea is to stop the fools from being recruited by a bunch of con men that are mostly not in this country and are not posting on this site.

1430. Comment by Todd Fotheringham | September 5th, 2009

      Paul,
      Its true. A family member of mine has signed up a dozen people. And still going!
      Droobli is promoting to open in Australia next month and the early adopters are in getting their pyramids set up before the launch.

1431. Comment by Crane Benson | September 5th, 2009

      I hope their pyramids topple. Droobli is an evil scam. Todd, do you ask yourself why hundreds of people here attack droobli? Because we know it’s an evil scam.

1432. Comment by beavis | September 5th, 2009

      “Todd, do you ask yourself why hundreds of people here attack droobli?”

      It just seems like hundreds; it’s just me

1433. Comment by Jeremy Britton | September 6th, 2009

      Selling The Dream of ‘make big money’ & selling the nightmare of ‘I bid 900 times and all I got was a sore finger’…

      I was actually looking at Droobli, not to make money from recruiting buyers, but as another avenue of selling my products online (alongside Google, Amazon & eBay).

      Funnily enough, it appears that Droobli won’t sell your actual physical products when you approach them (they choose to buy their own?). I wonder if the PC’s & things on Droobli were sold WILLINGLY and KNOWINGLY to Droobli or merely purchased “retail” by an anonymous agent?

      Wow. This site really blows the lid off Droobli (& also blows a lot of steam! Gotta love all the pettiness, name-calling & swearing — it’s so REAL!).

      I like the idea of a “reverse auction” to attract customers to a shopping portal; sadly, this simple format is not available on Droobli…

      With a true reverse auction, the more patient I am, the lower the price goes, and also the more chance that someone will jump in and buy just before “MY” reserve price…

      (similar to the way an honest market works when real estate or shares are falling)

      There is a chance that I will be too fast & pay too much or a chance that I will be too slow and “just miss out”. That is the chance that I take, based on ’speed versus greed’ but it is not gambling, per se.

      There is no REAL loser in a REAL auction, (reverse auction or forward auction), because, if I miss out on the item, I still get to keep my money (just as with eBay or any other form of ‘forward’ auction, including real estate).

      All of Droobli’s so-called Auctions are actually gambling, by definition that you could lose your money, spend your bid and possibly you could still not receive the goods.

      I do not wish to promote gambling by endorsing it, selling it or giving away “free” credits (that I bought) to assist others to gamble.

      Anyone is free to join or promote Droobli; in my opinion, re-sellers should simply refer to it as a GAMBLING site and not an “auction” site. But maybe the truth would not sell so well?

      Team: promote gambling HONESTLY if you choose to promote gambling. Otherwise, get a real job selling something that IS what it is and DOES what it does.

      This is NOT a competitor to eBay or auction sites. It is a competitor to Golden Palace & gambling sites. Would you endorse gambling sites by giving free credits to your friends? Perhaps you would, but maybe you wouldn’t try to disguise that it was gambling. Be honest & call a spade a spade.

1434. Comment by Soaring Eagle | September 6th, 2009

      Hi all My Hubbie and I where Given the Droobli opportunity 15 Days ago We have Shown this 2 12 people and 9 have jumped on
      and we have Made $2020 dollars in 6 days and so we have nearly helped all our down line do this. which Is exciting. We launch here in September In Sydney very cool. I was wondering why people would pay to look at someting to buy but when its Brand New up to date product with Full manufactures gaureente why not. After All Coscos just opend over here in Melborne and familys paid $60 each for the right to shop there be for they even opend Coscos made 3.5 Million.This is going to happen no matter what people say.

1435. Comment by beavis | September 6th, 2009

      Soaring Eagle,

      You are obviously a very accomplished seller of pyramid schemes; nine victims in 15 days is quite productive. Of course, little if any of your income came from actual product sales; it was signing up BA’s because that is how a good pyramid scammer operates. Alas, we all know pyramid schemes collapse – all of them. This is going to happen, too, no matter what Drooblidiots say. And the other part is that when five people recruit five who recruit five people, etc. you eventually get a lynch mob (alright, I used this one before). And by the way, how does it feel to alienate 203 out of 212 people because they would not become victims? I mean, you do know that the vast majority of people (in your case over 98%) don’t want to be subject to the pitch of your new found religion. Well, at least you cut down the number of people you have to by Christmas gifts for. When it does collapse just watch out for those nine people you recruited; they’re going to be pissed.

1436. Comment by beavis | September 6th, 2009

      correction; only a little over 94% of the people you come into contact will dislike you; not 98%.

1437. Comment by beavis | September 6th, 2009

      That is, initially dislike you.

1438. Comment by Only Facts | September 6th, 2009

      Souring Eagle.
      What Beavis says is correct. You are firstly, by your own admission, selling a pyramid scheme as there is no product as yet. In fact in Australia what are doing now is highly illegal. Yes you may sign people up, but you are not allowed to accept any money until the launch when there is a product to sell. So you are breaking the law. Don’t believe me? Call the Department of Fair Trading and ask, and guess what, Droobli is not breaking the law, YOU ARE and so is the person who sold it you and so forth. Be very carful what you are doing. The Dept of Fair Trading is aware of this scheme and has already recouped monies paid by several people in Queensland, who realised what they had got themselves in to. Fortunatly for them, they found this site during the cooling off period of they would have been screwed. Please read comment 1417 and explain to me why this doesnt concern you. In fact all pro-Droobli people read comment 1417 and explain please. I just dont get it.

1439. Comment by Martin | September 6th, 2009

      1416 # Comment by justabigjokeI

      “Thats just the doorway into the shopping mall.” That is the line that got me interested too. The only problem is that the doorway has so few people walking through it (provable by details in 1404 above.)

      Shopping malls survive on cutthroat margins. That’s why they all need high traffic to survive, and Alexa shows that Droobli – not even Droobli Europe – has nowhere near enough and never has.

1440. Comment by Martin | September 6th, 2009

      Todd Fotheringham…

      Even if the auction you mention was Xpress rather than Unique Bid, the car could still go for a fraction of the price if people were clicking to view the price but ‘just looking’ or if they were just too sceptical to buy even at a great price. This seems to have happened on the Xpress Auctions with the lower priced items eg $200 for $40 at an 80% discount, but higher priced items got snapped up at minor discounts.

      Yes you might find bargains, but you are spot on that the more people who are cluey about the auctions, ie the more popular they get, the fewer the bargains that would remain.

      Getting lots of users defeats Droobli’s own selling point!

1441. Comment by Martin | September 6th, 2009

      Only Facts:

      “In fact Droobli has resorted to advise members not to visit this site and offer a financial incentive for any member that can get their site address on the first page of Google in an attempt to wipe this site from the front.”

      The first I read in general terms in a Droobli BA’s booklet but I haven’t seen the second. Do you have any sources online?

1442. Comment by Gary | September 7th, 2009

      I must admit this has been a thoroughly enjoyable forum to read, thanks everyone for their contributions. Can anyone please tell me where I can get real figures independant from the Droobli websites etc? eg.. Whats really going on in the states? What’s really going on in Germany?? If what the majority of people are saying is correct I’m so happy I didn’t invest into a gold package. The jury is still out for me as the OZ launch hasn’t happened but from what I read it doesn’t look good. I just want the truth!! Cheers..

1443. Comment by Paul Paul | September 7th, 2009

      This blog is one giant rescue scheme. It’ll save some from the terrible thing that is droobli. Droobli is a scam and must be stopped. There are thousands of us who feel droobli must be stopped.

1444. Comment by david | September 7th, 2009

      Well I just finished watching the presentation for this GroobLi biz , they have made it sound so easy to make money and live the life you should have. You know I was about to pay $3000 for gold , then I thought dad always said if it sounds to good its a fake. So I just typed GroobLi and bang this site came up. Now I’ve read all the comments and I have to thank all comments good and bad, like myself I had a shit load of questions, and you know what they where all answered. Thanks for SAVING ME $3000, shore I could make some monies but eventually a lot of unhappy friends and family, let alone all the strangers.Like myself I’m not it gambling so why should I get all the people I know into gambling. I’ll stick to e-bay and the like . Thanks again

1445. Comment by WeAreLegion | September 7th, 2009

      So let’s move past the hooplah about how they plan to sell products. If they’ve got a more efficient way to seperate fools from their hard-earned.. well, that’s dastardly, but that’s business.

      What I want to know is simple: if I stump up for this membership they’re hawking; what, exactly, do I get in return?

      Soaring Eagle: what exactly did you sell to your friends? Don’t you feel dirty, taking money from them moving forward? I could almost understand you selling something and taking a cut of the profits (isn’t that how tupperware parties work?) but leeching money from them forever.. do they know?

      And how does whatever they’re selling make me money? I don’t want to rip my friends off – they’re friends. How do I make money this way?

1446. Comment by beavis | September 7th, 2009

      Gary,

      I’m sure accurate financial figures are easily available from Droobli’s holding company in the offshore banking haven of Cyprus But seriously, good luck getting anything verifiable from them as the traffic figures we do have show pathetic performance and their own completed auction info shows very low traffic, too. They would prefer that you just believe.

1447. Comment by beavis | September 7th, 2009

      WeAreLegion,

      Pyramid Scheme:

      “A pyramid scheme is a non-sustainable business model that involves the exchange of money primarily for enrolling other people into the scheme, often without any product or service being delivered.” Wikipedia

      You make money by getting in early and disappearing when the inevitable collapse occurs. There is a very good chance you and your friends would lose money becoming a Droobli BA as the hook, Droobli’s “reverse auction”, appears to be a failure. Risk of prosecution varies from country to country and state to state; hatred by those you pitch the product to should be fairly universal.

1448. Comment by Only Facts | September 7th, 2009

      Martin.
      Unfortunately, as like most things Droobli, this information comes from the Associates.I have mentioned before, this is a means where by Droobli can claim plausible deniability, or in Drooblispeak “An over enthusiastic Business Associate”. As I am in contact with several associates from different lines, what I endeavour to do is obtain the same information from different sources. Once I have achieved this I will post information, then start the debate. You may have noticed there has been no rebuital on this point.

      Gary.
      Independent sources.
      If you refer to anti-Droobli comments you can find these links on many comments. If you refer to Pro-Droobli comments. Thats the whole point they don’t exist. Even Droobli’s own doctrine is full of holes. For example http://www.duboz.com/pages/background.php
      Scroll down to Legal and click on “Independent USA Attorneys Opinion” this independent attorney is part of the Droobli management team.
      Or this one http://www.duboz.com/
      scroll down and read the disclaimer.

1449. Comment by Tommy | September 8th, 2009

      Wow! I can’t believe anyone who had first hand experience with GroobLi would see them as a scam. What a surprise. I know scams as I’ve been taken before. It’s no fun. But with GroobLi I’ve been involved for over a year now. Made good money with little effort. Acquired great products at a VERY GOOD price. Met a lot of nice people and I’ve NEVER heard a bad thing about GroobLi from any member who had first hand experience.

      Sorry to disappoint all you skeptics. There are some REAL SCAMS out there. You guys should spend you time on those.

      A lot of the discussions here are also very immature and childish…don’t you think? It makes it hard to take this site very seriously. When I did a search on the Spin Doctor I found that he get’s his traffic by PURPOSELY creating controversy. So you guys are just playing into his game here. He does not really care, he just want’s an online fight to drive traffic to his site. He makes the money while you guys provide the controversy. Sad state of affairs. Let’s see if he let’s these comments stay active.

1450. Comment by Rob | September 8th, 2009

      Yes there are some real scams out there, and some are I guess you would call them semi-scams. I’ve been documenting the difference between the retail price and what it sold for in the Droobli auction at http://www.drooblicenter.com. So you can take a look and you decide. Personally I get the biggest kick out of the zero auction. Yes its like gambling… but darn fun

1451. Comment by Only Facts | September 8th, 2009

      Tommy and Rob
      I ask again doesnt anything in comment 1417 worry you?

1452. Comment by beavis | September 8th, 2009

      Tommy and Rob,

      Welcome aboard!

      (may the sheep beating begin)

1453. Comment by Crane Benson | September 9th, 2009

      Tommy what is good money? How much have you earned? And why does it make you feel good that it was with little effort? Did you need extra money? Really? So you’re an American living in the richest nation on the planet. You must be pretty poor at your job to need more money.

      Tell us what great products you bought? Are they useful? Did you waste money on things you didn’t want?

      It must be hard to be poor in America. I feel sorry for you Tommy.

      Everyone, try to want less. You’ll be happier!!!!!

1454. Comment by Gary Wilders | September 9th, 2009

      The drooblidiots just love the drooblispeak. They are evil morons. It’s all a con. Droobli is a scam everyone and will fall over soon. It virtually has in Europe. Your local McDonald’s does more business than Droobli Europe. You’ve just wasted your money all you pathetic drooblidiots. Losers.

1455. Comment by Paul Sherriney | September 9th, 2009

      Eaglescout please start more blogs. We need to keep attacking the evil empire of droobli. It’s just a form of pollution.

1456. Comment by gene splicer | September 9th, 2009

      Gene has been silenced for good. Seems like his droobli dream went belly up. Droobli is over, folks.

1457. Comment by beavis | September 9th, 2009

      As long as you can buy tokens Droobli is still around and the number of auctions is actually ever so slightly higher than before (still pathetically low). Their “brilliant concept” will still sell to a sheep and there is still some sheep to be had. The good news is the growth in very small and probably won’t sustain the organization.

1458. Comment by beavis | September 9th, 2009

      Gary Wilders said:

      “They are evil morons.”

      I’m sorry Gary, you give them way too much credit. When you explain the “evil” part of Droobli (pyramid scheme, offshore banking accounts, lies about how it will be bigger than eBay, etc), the most you will generate from a Drooblidiot sheep is a “huh?” and then a recitation from the most recent webinar. In other words, they are not “evil morons”; they are simply “morons”. Misguided? Yes. Not particularly bright? Yes. Some of the stupidest peckerwoods on the planet? Yes. But evil I reserve for Droobli corporate. They actually know what is going on.

1459. Comment by Questions | September 10th, 2009

      I think gene splicer might be right – droobli is over. With the limited traffic they generate it has to be over. There are actually no real customers. Droobli ‘customers’ are only the BAs who’ve paid their fees and received their free credits. What the hell else are they going to do with them?

      So droobli BAs are the only customers bidding. They want us to believe real people are taking the time to read all the droobli nonsense and go shopping at droobli. It just doesn’t happen. They have no real shoppers in the USA. Not one !!!!

      Droobli is over. The scam is undone. We’ve won !!!!

      We have saved lots of folks from economic disaster. Good on us.

      Droobli is finished.

1460. Comment by "great Business Model" | September 10th, 2009

      I looked back at Paul’s post which had a link to droobli auction results. In the whole USA 23 items were sold on September 9, 2009. He describes the zero acuction as “darn fun” and many other drooblidiots have said droobli “has the lowest prices on the Internet. Wake up drooblidiots. People are buying it you idiots. If it’s so much ‘fun’ how can only 23 products sell in a country of 300 million people. You guys are just plain stupid.

      Hey, and here’s one of the big items – “Mc Lush mascara sold for $8 not $13.” Hold the front page of the New York times !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      That’s just earth shattering. Ebay will collapse soon in the face of this incredible onslaught from droobli.

      Someone saved $5 on mascara. What does Obama think about this incredible news. Droobli will save us from the recession. Give everyone in droobli a medal.

      But seriously, where did they find so many morons? Their greed has done them in, just like Bernie Madoff’s customers. Won’t they ever learn ?

1461. Comment by Gene | September 10th, 2009

      Oh the scamapedia dopes that come on here. Parrots! Yeah eagle wants to be the new Scamapedia. He is telling students all about his accomplishments. He does have other blogs that are failing. Look around see what he says. Oh no a plug. The only reason this one is doing such great cesspool antics where all the vermin are surfacing is because I spent some time here and they lick their lips to take a bite. Still going to no avail I see. Everyone can see through you guys beav/eagle. Need some more help here? OK. Now you want to complain about a company you haven’t even experienced. Hey go ahead register and try the auctions with free credits. Just let me know you want them. Kind of like doing your own research at my expense. Maybe you’ll like it maybe you won’t. But you won’t know unless you try. A lot of big mouths here but no action. You’ve not tried it out have you? You bet we need customers. That’s how normal business grows. It might be slow but what can you expect with these times? Who knows it may even get worse but if everyone sits on their hands it most surely will. Right wing left wing lets just soar above it all and be master of circumstances.

      Hey hows that? Maybe I need to write a speech. My site is thiscommerce and don’t forget the dot com on the end. See if you can find it! Hey nobody has told me the definition of greed yet. Help me out here. Is there something wrong with doing commerce on the net? There ya go eagle. A little more content for you. Have ya all missed me?

1462. Comment by Only Facts | September 10th, 2009

      Here you go Gene
      –noun excessive or rapacious desire, esp. for wealth or possessions.

      Hey Gene, maybe you will respond to comment 1417. Would love to hear your take.

1463. Comment by Gene | September 10th, 2009

      Hey Facts man this site is pud. If you scan the blog more closely you will find all your questions have already been answered. You have no more amunition. I don’t need to go over it again for your benefit. I did my damage here. You like to prop up lies don’t you? Especially the bankrupting one. How foolish! You know very well what really took place. Your noun doesn’t describe me. Is greed in your teeth?

      Gotta go. I might visit again.

1464. Comment by Only Facts | September 10th, 2009

      Well there you go Ladies and Gentlemen. No matter how many times you prove the facts, there are some people out there who simply will not accept it. Now Gene is totally aware of these problems, however I would bet what ever Gene has actualLy made from this company that he doesn’t mention it to the next poor shmuck he tries to solicit. Think about it, nobody in their right mind would ever consider handing over money to a company with such a track record. It would be insane.

      You are right though Gene the questions have been answered, however you continue. I never believed you were an evil person Gene, but by your own addmission you are aware of these problem yet you continue. What does that say???????

      And the funny thing is Gene truly believes he wins debates on this site. Gene if you honestly wish to help Droobli become a success, stay off this site. The damage you do to the company by posting your nonsensical ramblings is killing them. My god what am I saying STAY GENE STAY.

1465. Comment by Beavis | September 10th, 2009

      Only Facts,

      Don’t tell my favorite sheep not to post!

      Gene,

      You are ahead in the debate; please, tell us more. Will Droobli tokens really replace the Euro in 2010? Will Droobli really be the sole outlet for all Chinese production? Will the next Pope be from the Netherlands? Share your vast knowledge with your eager disciples.

1466. Comment by "great Business Model" | September 11th, 2009

      Gene you are a personality free zone. Your posts sound moronic. How do you function in normal society? You’re a typical drooblidiot – gullible, uneducated and a pathological liar about your business glories (aka “failures”).

      You’ve failed by joining droobli. Do you get it? Oh, it’s a slow death in droobli so you won’t fully understand for awhile. You especially won’t understand because they keep telling you “the customers will come”.

      Read my lips. Droobli will NEVER NEVER NEVER become a popular shopping site!!!!!! Do you understand? Isn’t it as obvious as the nose on your face? It just doesn’t make sense. The lack of customers in every country is the reality now. What spin can you put on that?

      Droobli is a failure. It doesn’t matter how many BAs are artificially propping it up.

      The dream is over. Try something else.

1467. Comment by Arnold Ace | September 11th, 2009

      I’m convinced Gene has lost it. Read his recent posts. He knows his more than $6000 “investment” in droobli has been a waste. He definitely sounds like he’s got his own meth lab. Gene put the knife down. Don’t do it to yourself. So you made a mistake. You don’t have to kill yourself.

1468. Comment by Beavis | September 11th, 2009

      Where is that jackass, Jason? Is he the first of our sheep to quietly slink off in shame upon the realization that he has been duped? He is probably in a bar somewhere telling himself that “businessmen like him take risks and it doesn’t always work out” or some other nonsense. Gene will just keep closing his eyes, clicking his heels together and wishing he was back in Kansas (or at least that the $3,199 was back in his bank account for that Droobli Gold Membership he purchased). Gentleman, we are going to run out of sheep pretty quick here as Droobli winds down. Droobli’s aggressive annual renewal fee policy is going to decimate the herd as the auction traffic continues to underwhelm. I think we might be out of business here within six months.

1469. Comment by Concerned Psychotherapist | September 11th, 2009

      I am absolutely convinced that dDbli BAs are a special and consistent group of people outworking their own pathologies. I have read more than 50 posts by what some here call “Drooblidiots”. They are not “idiots”. They are simply acting on instincts mostly formed in childhood and the early adolescent years.

      I postulate that those drawn to Droobli are from a quite large mass of people for whom living has little joy. They see others “getting ahead” and “gettin’ mo’ stuff” than they. This envy is underpinned by their own failures. I would also say most of the Droobli BAs would have issues with their fathers. They are driven by their need “to please Daddy”, even though their lives are ruled by their past failures.

      An inability to socialize with their peers is also a pretty obvious trait.

      Some of you here attack the people who have been drawn to Droobli. That is wrong. They are to be pitied for their sense of always underachieving. Their flirtation with Droobli is setting them on a course of further failure.

      Please don’t flame them with your aggressive posts. Try to help them and try to point out that they must have something positive in their lives. Get them to focus on that. Suggest alternative careers to MLM scams so that they might find real jobs that suit them.

      I am a voice of reason here. Please help these people to take their proper place in society post-Droobli.

1470. Comment by Beavis | September 11th, 2009

      Why?

1471. Comment by Ronald F. | September 12th, 2009

      I was leafing through the current (September) Sky Magazine from Delta and saw a full page ad for GroobLi – It Sounded cool so I went to the company site and watched the vid and something the folks in the video mentioned about buying credits caused my “spidey sense” to tingle.
      That led me to this link where I spent an hour reading through the many responses and rebuttals.
      It may be over-simplification, but it’s misleading to say “your Droobli membership is FREE, Fast & Easy” when you have to buy credits to participate. And once I found thousands of references to MLM, It felt like lambs being led to slaughter. Don’t get me wrong. MLM’s are good for people, just very few.
      The same disclaimer that one sees on the tele as pertains to so many other offers ought to be displayed on a poster when one goes to a team meeting or outreach or pep rally or whatever you wish to call it: “These results not typical. Your results may vary widely.” Every MLM has elements of the same saccharin – sweetened message as Jonestown. It would appear Droobli is no different.
      Good stuff. Grab a latte and have a seat.
      Thanks for the intelligent moderation and fine Saturday morning entertainment. Or Perhaps I ought to say, Edutainment.

1472. Comment by Ronald F. | September 12th, 2009

      I wanted to add one caveat to my last comment. The term MLM has a negative connotation and with good cause. There are several marketing and branding opportunities where people benefit from not only the affiliation but the actual product offering by using the product themselves. Some of these have been around for decades and some are a bit newer to the scene. So I would suggest that before one gets involved in any multi-legged or twin-legged approach do the research and math and determine if you have the drive and self-motivation to make it work. Just as important to me, however, is do you believe in the product and is it something that benefits others.
      Thanks again for the fine moderation and lively discussion, as well as the opportunity to offer my own “two cents.”

1473. Comment by justabigjoke! | September 12th, 2009

      Snoring..this is all so boring.. SSDD

      same shit. didferent day.

      Fuckin Yanks. all the same, Negative, abusive, finger pointing. God am I so glad I,m not American.

1474. Comment by beavis | September 12th, 2009

      spunkmonkey (aka “justabigjoke”),

      I was just thinking, “gee, I’m sure glad spunkmonkey isn’t an American” when it occured to me that I was just wishing you upon some other group of victims. That’s not very charitable on my part and I appologize to whatever country is stuck with you.

1475. Comment by Bob | September 12th, 2009

      Not much to say…this is really the “slums of the net.”
      I am busy in the real world.

      GroobLi is offering a value based business model to all customers.
      Those who read and listen to the directions can see for themselves.

      The twist I see in here is amazing.
      But not any more surprising considering the source.

      I stick with the facts.

      Like it or leave it…use it or loose it.

      spend more…or save more?

      The business model is very exciting… that’s all there is to it!

1476. Comment by Beavis | September 12th, 2009

      Bob the Sheep said:

      “The business model is very exciting… that’s all there is to it!”

      That’s right, Bob, that’s all there is to it – a business model. Now if you jackasses could just figure out a proof of concept. Right now you have an unpopular auction site combined with an unpopular shopping portal and the only income of note comes from talking people into coughing up sign up fees to become “Business Associates”. If your auction numbers and shopping portal numbers do not increase dramatically and your operation continues to recruit you are participating in a pyramid scheme. As the months click by and you fail to fuel increases in actual product sales it becomes more and more apparent that they will never succeed and the pyramid label becomes more and more real. In fact, at this point and after so many “launches” I can say without hesitation that Droobli is a failure. Droobli=FAIL

1477. Comment by George Patrice | September 13th, 2009

      Bob can’t even spell simple words like “lose”. A basic Grade 9 education is beyond him. This is the type of moron attracted to the obvious bogus claims of “quick riches” with Droobli. Bob is an uneducated fool. What person with a primary school education doesn’t know that the opposite of “win” is “lose”? ????

      Bob you’re a “loser”. Or for your level of education should I say “Your a Looser” (sic)(That’s two mistakes there Bob). What a moron. His next post will probably say he’s got a PhD and makes a million a year from Droobli. Bob just go back to school and complete Grade 12. We don’t want to hear your moronic crap any more.

      You are over. Loser get a life and stop trying to get others involved in your idiotic droobli crap. Droobli is a scam.

1478. Comment by Bob | September 13th, 2009

      Although most people learn how to spell “lose” in 2nd grade not 9th. It is sad to see that someone with an angry posture misidentifies a typo for an education level thereby exposing his lack of judgment.

      Again; most people know better, and see the value of Droobli for what it is. I will never buy anything on the internet without checking GroobLi portal first.

      One must ask:
      Why are a few angry people continually posting negative stuff, while GroobLi marches forward unscathed into a huge global marketplace? They are making huge moves to prepare for this, and would not be doing so if they were a “scam”
      (like going public see posts # 1298 and 1304).

      I hate scams like the next guy, but would never waste my time on this kind of a site for factual info on GroobLi.

      Do an experiment:
      Type in your favorite company with the word “scam” next to it.

1479. Comment by Only Facts | September 13th, 2009

      Bob Said

      Type in your favourite company with the word “scam” next to it.

      Well Bob I did. I typed in Google Scam and the first page was full of scams. Interestingly enough they were all third parties using the google name to scam people not Google itself. Also Bob If I did find a potential scam I would look into it like I did with Droobli.

      Bob how do you feel when one of your management team has already been involved with two proven scams?

      It constantly amazes me that Droobli people will swear until their blue in the face that they checked into the company, but don’t know, and argue on the most basic information. Information that can be easily verified. When they are proven to be wrong they say the info has been taken out of context or we have put a spin on it.

      Bob exactly which points are wrong. Please let me know so I can look into further. As well Droobli is not going public the holding company is. Are you able to tell me who the directors will be?

1480. Comment by Sapphire | September 13th, 2009

      Bob said “While Droobli marches forward unscathed”. It doesn’t march forward at all. Total sales are less than a tenth of what the local Walmart makes. Your local Walmart is bigger than Droobli USA and Droobli Europe combined !!!! In light of that, the claims by droobli are incredible!!!

      Only Business Associates are propping up the “wonderful” droobli shopping “portal”. They are spending their “free” credits in an effort to make droobli look viable. However, no one is coming to buy anything at droobli. Only those seeking to make money from it. The shopping portal/mall has failed to attract one shopper. Not one in the whole USA.

      The only shoppers are droobli BAs. The whole theing is sad. The droobli publicity claims that droobli is just about to buy up microsoft and coca cola. More lies swallowed by those who want to believe.

1481. Comment by Beavis | September 13th, 2009

      Bob the Sheep is a financial idiot.

      “One must ask:
      Why are a few angry people continually posting negative stuff, while GroobLi marches forward unscathed into a huge global marketplace?”

      Wouldn’t it be better to ask “why are a few morons dumping money into a pyramid scheme that is dog paddling in circles?”.

1482. Comment by Eugene | September 14th, 2009

      Folks:

      Note that there is now an article about Droobli up on Wikipedia.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GroobLi

      It doesn’t strike me as particularly fair and balanced, and it makes a lot of claims without references. For instance, it makes a claim about Jordin Sparks and Droobli, but the only reference is a newpaper article that doesn’t mention Droobli at all. (This forum is indirectly referenced, via one of the links critical of Droobli listed in the article).

1483. Comment by JOHN | September 14th, 2009

      SCAM WHILE YOU HAVE GOT GOOGLE ADD’S HERE IS THAT A SCAM BOB, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENTS WITH WITH GROOBLI AND YOU, GROOBLI MAKE MORE MONEY THEN YOU YOU DICK HEAD. LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

1484. Comment by JOHN | September 14th, 2009

      THATS WHY THEY CALL YOU BOB BOB BOB BOB BOB BOB BOB BOB

1485. Comment by JOHN | September 14th, 2009

      BOB DOWN AND SUCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKK MMMMEEEEE OOOOFFFFFF BBBOOOOBBBB LOL LOL LOL, LOL LOL, LOL

1486. Comment by Beavis | September 14th, 2009

      John,

      Bob is a sheep. Before you make requests for services please check local ordinances.

1487. Comment by Arnold Ace | September 15th, 2009

      John is the typical drooblidiot. Angry and aggressive about his business failures. He’s actually attacking a fellow drooblidiot. Droobli really scrapes the bottom of the barrel.

      Have you noticed that not one drooblidiot will ever own up to what they spent on droobli versus any profit they make from the pyramid? Have you noticed that?

      They have no concept about net profit. It’s because they believe the spin from the “higher ups” in the pyramid that “one day” “your ship will really come in with droobli”. After waiting months, patient droobli BAs are told, “wait a little longer”. “it’s gonna be huge”. Then they announce silly things like they’ll give a Rolls Royce to the salesman of the month or whatever. Those cheesy announcements are just to divert BAs to the sad truth – Droobli hasn’t taken off and NEVER will !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1488. Comment by eaglescout | September 15th, 2009

      I’m surprised a GroobLi article made it on Wikipedia. I believe it has been deleted off the site at least once before.

1489. Comment by Miko | September 15th, 2009

      I received a GroobLi booklet and dvd off someone i know who is a GroobLi BA.
      I really cant make my mind up whether to join or not so i’m going to not,at this stage.
      Ive read this whole thread over 2 sessions and my head hurts,95% of the posts are a waste of time.
      Some of you have filled this page with so much nonsense and heresay and have made it extremely hard for people genuinely trying to find out some truth about GroobLi,to actually do so and (some) of you need to get a life,trolls belong under bridges after all.
      This wasn’t my first stop while doing research and it wont be my last.
      I must say that after thoroughly reviewing the GroobLi booklet i received and also watching the dvd twice,im skeptical still.
      I Strongly recommend people do alot of research on this company before investing.
      I’m very interested in links to current factual information ( such as public records ) if anyone can provide any.
      eaglescout seems to be the only one who has posted anything useful so far,kudos to him/her.

1490. Comment by beavis | September 15th, 2009

      Miko,

      If you read the posts then you know:

      1. Droobli intentionally does not disclose its financials.
      2. It has a track record of hyperbole matched with failure.
      3. Droobli is a pyramid.
      4. Bob is a sheep.
      5. Gene is a moron.

      My recommendation:

      Find a real investment with reputable people and don’t follow the sheep (or the moron).

1491. Comment by Darryl Dragon | September 16th, 2009

      Miko none of us care what you think. If you want to join droobli that’s your problem. Instead of begging people here for factual information why don’t you do your own research?

      And again, no one cares if you blow your money on droobli, golf, horse races, drugs, cars, or whatever. Do what you want. Life is not certain about anything. Given your attitude you don’t sound like any kind of investor. Investing means risk. It sounds like you can’t handle that. Droobli is a particularly bad one.

1492. Comment by Robert "Open Fly" Phillips | September 16th, 2009

      The Wikipedia article about droobli was accurate. It showed that in three years $5000 had been raised for charity. This FACT puts paid to the claims of various drooblidiots that they are really doing their droobli crap because they are wonderful people who want to help others. $5000 ain’t much. Another droobli con. Do not buy anything from droobli thinking you’re helping anyone. The people who run droobli just use the charity as a front. They don’t care for anyone except themselves. They are evil people.

      Droobli is an evil scam. Listen to the hundreds of people on this thread alone !!!

1493. Comment by Miko | September 16th, 2009

      Comment by Darryl Dragon
      “Miko none of us care what you think. If you want to join droobli that’s your problem. Instead of begging people here for factual information why don’t you do your own research?”

      If you don’t care what anyone thinks why are you reading this?
      And as i said above, i Am doing my own research,i stopped by here in the search for information.
      There was no begging entered into in my comment i merely mentioned i was interested in information that others,but clearly not you,may be able to offer.
      You obviously have nothing useful to offer but your angst.

1494. Comment by beavis | September 16th, 2009

      Miko,

      Droobli has no physical presence in the US, It’s US operation is wholly owned by a Cyprus holding company (almost immune to US court subpoenas and judgments). There are no financials available to you. They have been operating since 2003 (2008 in the US) with minuscule market penetration. They want you to give them $3,199 yearly in exchange for Droobli tokens and the “potential” to become a Droobli millionaire. When you “invest” in to Droobli you don’t get solid facts, you get a concept and a whole lot of speculative information. So there are the fundamentals that are available to you. The deal is your money now in exchange for “blue sky”. Good luck and may you make an intelligent decision.

1495. Comment by Only Facts | September 16th, 2009

      Miko.
      Here are some suggestions for you.
      1. Refer to your Droobli booklet and DVD. Jot down the facts and statistics they present. Surf the net to verify them. If you can’t put a red cross next to point.

      2. Surf the net again and try to find any positive information on the company that does not come from Duli itself or one of their Ba’s. If you cant put a red cross next to that point.

      3. Put the names on the management team into your search engine and see what you find. Anything negative, red cross it.

      4. Contact your local gamming commission, and fill them in on the three type of auctions and ask if it is gambling. Again red cross it if needed.

      5. Contact Droobli US via phone and ask them to justify your results. If you cant contact them via phone. Red cross.

      Count the red crosses then make your decision.

1496. Comment by Soft Shoe Shuffle | September 16th, 2009

      I think Miko will become a drooblidiot like one or two hundred other people in the US. From his posts I see he’s the classic drooblidiot type. He wants something for nothing – like free information about droobli. If he can’t see that droobli’s a stupid idea that’s bound to fail then he’s one of them. He deserves to join droobli and enjoy the barrage of cliches they deal out. No one with any brains will have anything to do with droobli.

      But Miko, go ahead. You obviously have issues about being a failure in the eyes of your father. Join droobli and become a big businessman that he will be proud of.

1497. Comment by Shaun "Due Diligence" Premo | September 17th, 2009

      I love drooblidiots!!! They hear from the droobli pimps “make sure you do your due diligence about droobli. Don’t just join it because I say it’s amazing”.

      The words “due diligence” must be like catnip to a drooblidiot. They don’t do their “due diligence” but just the fact that their droobli pimp referred to it is enough. They think “Oh droobli must be on the level if he’s telling me to do my ‘due diligence’”. That’s the oldest scam in the book!!!

      Bernie Madoff used to say “look don’t give me any money until you’re sure I can give you the best return around”. And thousands of smart guys fell for it !!!!!

      Greed is a wonderful thing. Just stop wanting more crap and you’ll have a better life. Be content with who you are.

1498. Comment by Gene | September 17th, 2009

      Hahahahahahahahahahaha … I made $4 million last month from droobli ….look at me ….. I’m a big shot …..I can buy and sell all of you ….. I’ll give you free credits …. I’ve even got a crummy website …. I give you all free credits …. hahahahahahahahah ……. droobli has made me rich ….. I got everything ….. you have nothing … I’ve got chicks ….. I was a loser …now I’m a winner …… hahahahahahaha ….. droobli is the way to instant wealth ….. take that you doubters !!!!

      No one will ever use the word drooblidiot again ….. who’s the idiot now … I’m rich ….You can make $500, 000 a week with droobli … hahahahahahahaha

1499. Comment by beavis | September 17th, 2009

      Gene,

      I knew you were holding out. You set us up and now you’ve knocked us down. Oh, the humanity. . .

1500. Comment by Only Facts | September 17th, 2009

      I am assuming Gene was screaming this as they were taking him away. You make it too easy Gene. By the way one of your last post, you stated you have answered all the questions. I don’t remember you answering the one about, one of your management team being involved in 2 collapsed and proven scams. Am I mistaken?

1501. Comment by mark | September 17th, 2009

      gene,
      righto mate, you made 4 million in a month. how many customers, or ba’s have you got under you? how much have you invested into droobli? was this 4 million made from the shopping portal or the auction?

      also tommy, you said you got some good deals, how many times did you check the price to get these good deals? how much money is good money, and how long did it take you to make?

      my father is trying to get me to buy into droobli, i am sceptical. i have seen the dvd’s and read the booklet, so i know how it works, i just want someone to tell me how much they actually made, and how much they have spent so far. if they have any evidence, all the better. i want figures in other words, which everyone seems to be avoiding.

1502. Comment by beavis | September 17th, 2009

      dumbass (aka “mark”),

      This is a pyramid scam. It is not about how much money you might make but who takes it in the shorts when it is all over. Ethics is the key here. Excuse me for name calling but you are missing the major point of this whole blog. You are considering participating in a non-sustainable pyramid. Some one will get hurt and being as the concept is already floundering I wouldn’t be surprised if it folded within the year. Droobli offers a lot of opportunity – you can be a scammer, a victim or both!

1503. Comment by Kyle Warren | September 18th, 2009

      Mark, I agree with beavis, even if he is a little coarse. You’re too nice of a guy for droobli. Don’t have anything to do with it. It stinks. You don’t know our Gene. If he made $400 a month from droobli I’d be surprised. No one is coming to the “massive shopping portal”. There are no real customers. Mark, are you listening??? The only “customers” droobli has are the BAs who’ve been “given” credits as part of their “junior executive instant businessman’s kits”. They are the only ones spending because it’s in their interest to prop up a failing company. They want to make it look like droobli’s a success.

      But, Mark, listen carefully. They have not attracted one non-drooblidiot to shop on their “massive shopping portal”. And you want to invest in it???

1504. Comment by Robert "Open Fly" Phillips | September 18th, 2009

      I WANT TO SEE ACTION ON THE PART OF THE ANTI-GROOBLI FORCES. WHERE CAN WE GO FROM HERE? IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN PICKET THEIR OFFICES? WHERE IS THE GROOBLI USA HEADQUARTERS? I’M WILLING TO GO TO NEW YORK OR CHICAGO TO THE HEADQUARTERS.

      IT’S THE LITTLE GUY I FEEL SORRY FOR. THESE GROOBLI PEOPLE HAVE NO MORALS. THEY WANT TO DESTROY FAMILIES AND BREAK UP MARRIAGES. I FEEL SORRY FOR THOSE WHO CAN’T SEE THROUGH THAT MESS. BOY, I’M STEAMED UP. I’M READY TO TAKE ON A GROOBLIDIOT.

1505. Comment by beavis | September 18th, 2009

      Best to just squash its little business by posting the truth about it. Problem is with Drooblidiots that once Droobli bites the dust they’ll just dive into another hare-brained scheme like ACN or some MLM selling magic juice like Monavie.

1506. Comment by Bob | September 18th, 2009

      That’s the problem Beavis.
      You were denied the true brilliance of Network Marketing:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRVGzFw0ygU&feature=related
      hope this helps…

      By the way…
      You are uneducated on the Droobli business model, will see it come into play from which ever angle you choose.

1507. Comment by beavis | September 18th, 2009

      Bob the Sheep,

      OK, I watched this joker’s video. First tip: if you want to try to pull off the “big shot executive look” get a “made to fit” or custom shirts vs. the off the rack Kohl’s special. Then again, it’s probably all he can afford. Second, his logic is flawed in so many ways I simply don’t have the patience or lack of sobriety to address all of the points. If his arguments make sense to you, roll with it Bob. If I were you I’d get another Gold Level package; you can make twice as much money!

      To the rest of you,

      The video is a seven minute black hole of time. . . except the guys ill fitting shirt is funny.

1508. Comment by Robert "Open Fly" Phillips | September 19th, 2009

      Bob is a typical drooblidiot. I mean they’re a personality-free zone, all of them.

      Bob, tell everyone here how much you made from droobli last week. We’re talking profit. Minus your credits. How much did you make Bob? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

      Sorry about the laughter. I know you want droobli to work out. But it won’t. Stop saying “the business model”. It’s a stupid idea and you know it. Stop being childish. Droobli is a scam and if you don’t know that you must be a real moron.

1509. Comment by Ronald Affers | September 19th, 2009

      Does anyone here want to join droobli”? Then check out this droobli site which records all droobli auctions for the US. http://www.drooblicenter.com. You will see that on September 17 less than $3500 worth of goods sold on droobli auctions in the US. My convenience store does more business than that in two hours !!!!

      Droobli BAs …. you’ve just lost your money …. This thing is a lead balloon. Okay droobliidiots, what spin do you put on the droobli figures? Less than 20 items sold in a country with more than 300 million people. You’ve got to be kidding. Shut up drooblidiots !!! You guys are just morons !! You must be sorry you ever heard of the word droobli.

1510. Comment by Lazbit | September 19th, 2009

      Damn… I’m not sure what’s more unbelievable, the fact this thread is still going strong (almost at the 1 year mark) or that Droobli hasn’t imploded (at least in the US) yet. I stopped posting four or five months ago, and it’s still going strong.

      You’d think, after launching almost a year ago in the US (see the start of the thread), that Droobli could manage more than a dozen or so auctions a day. And you’d think wrong. The numbers speak for themselves – whether that’s completed auctions or Alexa traffic scores. Whatever word of mouth campaign they’ve been running, it’s been a miserable failure. Just as it was in Europe. So now it’s on to Australia! More suckers to be fleeced.

      Anyone who doesn’t believe Droobli is a scam need only look at the promises that have been made over and over again in this thread. Then go to their own site and look at the lackluster results. Or go to Alexa and look at their traffic. Not to mention the dubious backgrounds of their founders, trail of bankruptcies, lack US-based offices, lack of any independent press coverage, or Cypress-based bank accounts don’t turn you off. Or the idea of turning into one of the annoying MLM cult members trying to recruit everyone in sight to keep the pyramid growing. If, after all that, you’re still interested, well I guess you get what you deserve.

1511. Comment by beavis | September 19th, 2009

      I want to invest in Ronald Affers convenience store. It kicks Droobli’s ass!

1512. Comment by Ronald Affers | September 20th, 2009

      Hey it’s a large convenience store and we have a lot of hot food items. It’s bigger than droobli. What’s all this about a “great business model”.

1513. Comment by Alan Davidson | September 20th, 2009

      I’m going to be a hero on this site. I just punched my uncle who’s a drooblidiot or duli pimp because he was trying to ruin my sister’s wedding. He was using the wedding to “network”. Everyone was so upset with him. I warned him twice. The second time I grabbed his jacket and pushed him. But it made no difference. When I caught him trying to sign someone else up I just got so mad that I hit him. Oh and I threw an outdoor chair as he drove away. My mother isn’t talking to me but he deserved it. All the drooblidiots care about is money.

      I hate every drooblidiot. They are low-life scum.

1514. Comment by beavis | September 20th, 2009

      Alan Davidson,

      We need to get your outdoor chair throwing accuracy and range up so that you strike Drooblidiots consistently and accurately. My recommendation is to line up a dozen of them 25 feet away and repeatedly hurl you chair until you consistently strike all of them. Then increase you range and practice until you can nail them in the face at 50 feet.

      Job well done, by the way!

1515. Comment by Shaun "Due Diligence" Premo | September 20th, 2009

      Welcome to the Droobli due diligence site. Check here if you are thinking about joining Droobli. Read these posts and then you’ll have done your due diligence.

1516. Comment by Only Facts | September 20th, 2009

      Bob

      Could you please supply a link to the actual Droobli Business Model?

1517. Comment by Belore Salvestore | September 20th, 2009

      I will tell you about droobli business model. It is just a ripoff from the top down. Here in Europe it is big failure. I lost more than 6000 euros with Droobli. They lie to you. They say trust me. They lie. They say it will become bigger. No one wants to shop at Droobli Europe. There are plenty other sites for that. They promised there plan works but it doesn’t. If I see Bobby Jensen I will drive on top of him.

1518. Comment by Bob | September 20th, 2009

      Only Facts,
      This is not the forum, as I only peek in here once a week or so, and it is a negative site…but here is a start:
      http://bit.ly/TogHi

1519. Comment by Only Facts | September 20th, 2009

      Bob
      Firstly I need to disagree with you on two very important points.
      First. This is the forum to discuss the business model as it is continually used to back up Droobli.

      Second. This is not a negative site it is a factual site. Each side of the argument is given equal opportunity to put their point across.

      When I clicked on the link that you offered, a warning came on my screen stating it contained unsolicited content and advised not to proceed, so I’m sorry I won’t look at it.

      I will however be interest in what you believe the Droobli Business model is.

      Also if you can supply me with what you believe is a more neutral forum I would be happy to go there.

1520. Comment by beavis | September 20th, 2009

      I’ll go there, too

1521. Comment by Belore Salvestore | September 21st, 2009

      I will go there to tell everyone about Droobli Europe !!

1522. Comment by Michael De Bever | September 21st, 2009

      Hi everyone. I’ve been thinking a lot about Droobli lately. I’ve been wondering about how it’s advertised. It seems Gene and other Droobli pimps are always trying to get people involved. Wouldn’t then, TV advertising be a natural for something like Droobli. All the big companies advertise.

      Anyway, I’ve asked all my friends and fellow psych students to count the number of Droobli ads and also, the number of times the word Droobli is mentioned on TV. After thousands of hours of viewing there hasn’t been one mention about Droobli. Now that’s weird. They try to get people involved yet it’s like a big secret. Why wouldn’t they advertise on TV???

      Why is Droobli being so secretive? What are they hiding? What company doesn’t advertise? Why aren’t the BAs suspicious?

1523. Comment by Doobah | September 21st, 2009

      Droobli isnt secretive at all and if you check out their reasoning behind why they dont use costly advertising and leave the word of mouth advertising do the work for them. This have proven in many businesses to be the most successful way to promote and increase profitability to companies and sales people.

1524. Comment by Sabrina | September 21st, 2009

      I’m not a big Droobli fan. It’s clear as day that they’re charging you 80cents a “bid” but only saving you 25cents – they profit off of the additional 55cents which you are literally handing to them for no reason at all. Not sure if anyone has heard of this new site but figured I’d throw it out there in hopes of getting more info. http://www.Bidzone.com – like Droobli’s “Xpress” auction – BidZone has a platform called “Buy” that’s in the reverse auction format. The largest difference I’ve found is that BidZone only charges 50cents per bid and actually saves you the 50cents as well (meaning every time you bid the product’s price decreases by the full 50cents). currently they’re offering Free registration with 5 Free Bids to give people the chance to check things out… seems pretty interesting to me. Place a comment if anyone’s heard about this site ’cause I’d rather not just run into another GroobLi.

1525. Comment by beavis | September 21st, 2009

      In other words they don’t have the money.

1526. Comment by beavis | September 21st, 2009

      (I was referring to comment 1523)

1527. Comment by Michael De Bever | September 21st, 2009

      Hey Doobah the economic genius (1523). Coca Cola is one of the world’s largest companies. The brand is well established all around the world. So you’d think they wouldn’t need to buy advertising. They have a huge positive word of mouth publicity out there. Unlike Droobli they are one of the world’s biggest purchasers of advertising.

      Doobah, Coke is hugely successful while Droobli is unknown. I’ve never met someone who’s ever heard of Droobli. I’ve sopoken to hundreds of people. Not one has heard of Droobli. So I fill them in about. How it’s a big scam. How it’s a ripoff and all.

      Doobah, do you get the picture? Droobli is so smart it doesn’t advertise so it relies on me to do it for them. I’ll keep doing it. Droobli is a scam everyone.

1528. Comment by Only Facts | September 21st, 2009

      Michael De Bender

      Your point is quiet valid but I suggest you stop looking now. Reason being I doubt you will ever find Droobli on TV. You simply cannot explain Droobli in 30sec. It would be disastrous for them, people would just switch off.

      More importantly however, try and find any legitimate, independent press. You won’t, at all. This is the true mystery. After 3 years of being a massive success in Europe nothing, after a successful launch in the USA nothing. After the hugely successful auction where a $25,000.00 motor bike went for just over $4000.00 nothing. Even the Droobli faithful must agree, that at best this is extremely poor promotion. In fact if I had paid over three grand for a licence I would be pounding on their door asking why? They want you to build your line, they need you to build your line but they refuse to assist in the most basic, and what would be the most successful way. However, the Droobli BA’s also have themselves to blame. What is stopping them going to their local news paper and asking for a story to be undertaken. Think about it, with all the thousand of Droobli associates making big money, if they all went to the press with this amazing concept Droobli would be huge, the down lines massive and they would all be making $50,000.00 a month guaranteed. So now, please answer me any Droobli associate. Why doesn’t this happen????????????????????????????? WHy don’t you do it????

      Doobah.

      I’m sorry but Droobli is secretive. When you try and sign somebody up, do you tell them that Droobli collapsed in Denmark and Spain? Do you tell them that a member of the management team has already been involved with 2 scams? Do you tell them to look at this and other informative sites? Do you tell them they have no physical presence in the US? Do you tell them, by their own admission they have an exit plan if the auctions are ever proven to be gambling? Just as important, did the person who sign you up tell you these things?

1529. Comment by beavis | September 21st, 2009

      Maybe they could buy some ball point pens with “Droobli” written on them.

1530. Comment by "Genius" Jones | September 21st, 2009

      Only Facts posted these great facts. We need to review them. There are still a few drooblidiots in the US and more are being signed up in Australia for the “pre-launch phase”.

      Thank you so much Bob for that link it really was an eye opener. Let’s look at some points.

      Amazon; Jeff Bezos was the vice-president of the Wall St firm D.E. Shaw.

      Droobli; Bobby Jenson bankrupts 5 companies.

      Amazon; Went public 2 years after its debut.

      Droobli; After much hinting and speculating, Still waiting.

      Amazon and Ebay; Costs nothing to look at the price of an item.

      Droobli; Sorry 80 cents to have a peek

      Amazon; After 3 years of proven success introduces the associates program, and they pay you

      Droobli; After 3 mins of conception asking up to thousands to be an associate on nothing more than self hype, and no actual product. Then will pay you if can convince others to do the same.

      Amazon; 4 years after debut founder becomes Time magazines “Person of the Year”

      Droobli; 3 + years Can’t get press to save their life so start their own magazine

      And ready for the Kicker

      The source of this information was the International Directory of Company Histories. Type in Droobli on that site. Sorry no matches.

1531. Comment by Knox Truasheim | September 21st, 2009

      I hate Droobli with a passion. It is an evil organization trying to scam people. There are enough online stores. Droobli is not needed. It is stupid, ridiculous, childish, moronic, idiotic, etc.

      No normail, sane person would touch droobli. It will fold soon.

1532. Comment by Shaun "Due Diligence" Premo | September 22nd, 2009

      Why would Droobli tell people to do their “due diligence”? There is so much information that shows Droobli is just a stupid mess. But they know that people never do it. It’s a lovely con that the drooblidiots have only themselves to blame.

      If anyone did do “due diligence” they would never get involved in Droobli.

      Here’s your “due diligence” update everyone: Droobli is a scam.

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1534. Comment by Knox Truasheim | September 22nd, 2009

      Let’s hear from a real Droobli Business Associate. This post is from Maui Charlie (like we should all be impressed!)

      One thing i found a bit wacky when I signed up with Droobli in September for $800.00 right on my computer screen along with my associate I.D. # it said congratulations on joining Droobli enjoy your “one year membership” I haven’t really asked anyone about it but am to gather that in one year I’ll pay another $800 or whatever level you buy in at, does anyone know?

      I actually do live in Maui and I did buy my house with Life Insurance money and on Maui I’m known as a pretty stand up guy, but truth be told I’m bummed about droobli I signed up one person and I’ve felt guilty ever since, I thought I was in on the next big thing, but so far nothing of the sort, but in all fairness I haven’t tried to tell anyone about Droobli. I haven’t seen a penny. MLM’s have never really worked on Maui, I still have hope but I’m very realistic, I was given 1100 droobli credits when I signed up as a business associate so I guess I I goy $880.00 worth of credits which I used to buy a Ipod and a Ipod player The Ipod cost $5.00 and the Player cost $1.00 but it took 1050 droobli credits to get that price so actually I paid about $800.00 for an Ipod Nano.

      There it is folks. The sad voice of experience. Coming soon to Australia !!!!

1535. Comment by Only Facts | September 22nd, 2009

      Has anyone noticed that the Droobli manamegment team is dwindling? Down to 3. Even the high up faithful seem to be jumping ship. Then again, as always, I’m sure there is logical Droobli reason for it.

1536. Comment by beavis | September 22nd, 2009

      “Droobli is expanding its’ management team based on it’s successes in Europe and the US.”

      Drooblispeak good; facts bad. Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaah Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaah Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

1537. Comment by Professor Winstanley | September 22nd, 2009

      I’m starting to get an idea about the Drooblidiots. Those attracted to Droobli must come from the bottom of the barrel. No educated person with a university degree would fall for it. One thing College or university study gives you is a range of critical thinking skills. These Drooblidiots are missing that. Also their lack of spelling even simple words betrays their lack of education.

      For example

      1. Justabigjoke spells “blame” as “blaim” (interesting)

      2. Michelle Schwartz from September 27th, 2008 wrote the word “exasburating” instead of “exasperating”

      3. Bob thinks “to” means “in excess of”. He meant “too”. He also doesn’t know the word “they’re” which is short for “they are”. He thinks “they are” is contracted as “their”. He also thinks the opposite of “win” is “loose”. “Loose” means “not tight”.

      etc. etc. etc.

      I think I’ve proven my point. The drooblidiots, by their poor education in life have few other choices for employment. Hence they are drawn to the dream of quick riches.

      Droobli is a con my friends.

1538. Comment by PandoraHo | September 23rd, 2009

      to : Professor Winstanley

      I’m not one of those drooblidiots and I’m also not a university graduates. You cannot compare idiot with people who never studied at university. I bet there are professors/doctors were recruited as a drooblidiot. Need to say no more, I believe you get my point.
      —–

      The idea of “reverse auction” sounds interesting. But history shows it never been success means majority don’t buy the concept. And when you make the calculation, you know who is the only winner in this game.

      I never heard of Droobli until today. Someone from Facebook tried to recruit me into his “pyramid”. I can’t tell if that guy is too smart to look for victims through Facebook – eBay group. Or he is too desperate.

      There are millions scammer out there in this world. They are like cockroaches. There is no way to get rid of them all. I guess we all need to do is be alert and Google when we have doubt. Thank you very much Eaglescout (did you change the name to Beavis?) for making the research and the post here.

1539. Comment by beavis of Camelot | September 23rd, 2009

      PandoraHo,

      Droobli is not actually a reverse auction; it is something else that they invented that thy labeled a “reverse auction” for marketing purposes. And Eaglescout is not going by “beavis” as “beavis” is already taken.

1540. Comment by Only Facts | September 23rd, 2009

      Pandora
      As Beavis has already stated, Droobli doesn’t rely on their reverse auction. They freely admit, often, that it is a “HOOK” to get people interested. This is yet another example of their extremely poor marketing, and part of the business model that pro Droobli people will tell you, is why they believe in the concept so much, the amazing and innovative business model. In fact paying 80 cents to look at the price of something is one of the main points that make people laugh about the idea. According to Droobli their real public interest is the global shopping porthole. This global shopping porthole, currently, is owned and operated by a company called Medianet and is on the stock exchange. This means for the first time we can actuly follow the interest in Droobli through this business. Web traffic indicators and share prices give an excellent overall picture of the reality of Droobli. Their web traffic is appalling and the share prices started at $2.25 then quickly bottomed out at 9 cents. This is when Droobli needed to do something or they would have lost their porthole as the business was on the verge of collapse. So they bought out Medianet, which they over paid. This then pushed the price up to 25 cents, however is it falling again.

      No matter how much Droobli denies it, Droobli’s actual source of revenue is selling licences and credits. This is the true business model.

1541. Comment by Tamieka | September 23rd, 2009

      I am currently looking at Droobli. I have seen alot of press good and bad which has made it very hard to determine weather or not it is a good thing. I have noticed several comments from members that have said that it didn’t realy work for them then they have admitted that they didn’t realy put any effort into it. I wonder if they veiw thier daily job this way or if they purchased a new car but didn’t drive it, would they complain that it wouldn’t get them where they wanted to go. What ever “job” you do requires effort. From what I can see Droobli openly tells you what they do and what you need to do to earn money.

1542. Comment by justabigjoke | September 23rd, 2009

      Tamieka, I would not take to heart what people say on here, Most or all of them have either had a bad MLM experience and are looking for some way to vent there anger and blame anyone but themselves for there failure.

      Ive been in GroobLi 5 months, I am building a Global network of cusotmers and business associates. I come here once in a while to read these naysayers and it inpsires me to work even harder.

      Prof Winstanley, Do not forget to check the spelling mistakes afer your last post.. Even some of your intellegent friends have spelled word,s wrong.

      Good luck Tamieka

1543. Comment by Daryl Smith | September 23rd, 2009

      Tamieka, I dispute that you “saw a lot of press” about Droobli. I have never heard one mention of droobli anywhere.

1544. Comment by Only Facts | September 23rd, 2009

      Tamieka
      Please explain where you saw this positive press as none exists. Please look at post 1495. Justabigjoke and pro Droobli posters need to be against this forum or they dont make money. They need to build their line. This is where the money comes from. Please, Please, Please Tamieka don’t take what you read here as gospel. Go to the links yourself. Find the facts. You will be able to prove most things that are stated on this site, you will not however be able to prove anything that Droobli states. And for the record Tamieka, I do not work for ebay, I have not had a bad experience with other MLM’s, and even if I had the people behind Droobli would have been the ones behind the bad MLM’s and I have no other reason for saying these things apart from the fact I am sick of Droobli’s methods and out right lies. Thankfully I have managed to stop over a dozen people becoming involed with this simply by showing them independent facts that repute nearly everything Droobli claims. Use your head Tamieka actually do your Due Diligence and you’ll be fine.

1545. Comment by beavis | September 23rd, 2009

      Tamieka,

      Yes, successful scamming does require effort. You must exert yourself in Droobli to reach your goals by ass raping all of your friends and family. If making a buck regardless of the ramifications then MLM, in fact this MLM, is for you. Then again you might just take a little bit of time and think about whether you are being an UNETHICAL PIECE OF SHIT! Just a thought. . .

1546. Comment by PandoraHo | September 23rd, 2009

      To Beavis
      I know Droobli is not a real “reverse auction” site.
      —

      Like Eaglescout said it is pure gamble. You put in some quarters into the slot machine. As soon as you spin, you hope that the picture will show you what you wanted to see. And this picture is actually frozen like a real slot machine until you put in more quarters and spin again. I just couldn’t understand the logic, a real “auction” or “reverse auction” site show the updated price as soon as someone place a bid. Why this one is frozen after you place a bid?

      And a job asked you to pay the boss before you make any money for the company. Are you sure you wanted to work for this person?

      Droobli is actually doing the same “slimming plan” to scam people . There are many notorious so called “body slimming” companies here in Hong Kong claim that they will pay you big money as their campaign model only if you pay them a big amount deposit in advance and make yourself as thin as you can. If you gain weight or cannot lose any, then your deposit will be forfeited. No matter how frequent you go to their store to do what they called “slimming program”, they can always find a scale that say you do not meet their standard. But if you introduce your friends there to do their program, they will pay you small commission for referral. And scam goes on and on if one does refer to someone else.

      Like I said yesterday, these scammers are like cockroaches. For those who already trapped by your friends (or acquaintance), please don’t make others suffer like you do. Stop approaching others for the mistake you made to yourself.

1547. Comment by beavis | September 23rd, 2009

      PandoraHo,

      No offense, I’m just a stickler for detail. I didn’t mean to come off rude. I’m really not that kind of person.

      spunkmonkey (aka justabigjoke),

      “You are a mouse studying to be a rat.”

1548. Comment by beavis | September 23rd, 2009

      Wilson Mizner

1549. Comment by Qazza | September 24th, 2009

      I am proud of the work done here by the hundreds of anti-droobli people. We must stop the evil Droobli empire. For the sake of America and other countries Droobli must be stopped. All the drooblidiots and droobli pimps with their talk of a global shopping porthole must be stopped. I will be starting a safe, secure website that we can turn up the heat on the droobli people. Droobli calls it viral income or something. They don’t know how badly their websites can crash with a real virus attack.

      Droobli must be opposed in all forms. When a drooblidiot begins to speak just say “shut up”.

1550. Comment by Sally | September 24th, 2009

      A couple of weeks ago a very close friend of mine told me about Droobli. She had joined back in June and has consistently shown a healthy financial return since then, and asked if I was interested? Willing to look at anything I allowed her to show me the web video, look at the booklet and listen to a webinar, and it really sounded very good and I was very interested. She had done her home work looked into the company and was very impressed and so was I. That was until I was speaking to a mutual friend about Droobli and he told me to stop and listen. He told me what I can only describe as a horror story about this company. He showed this forum and suggested I followed the links which I did and to my amazement everything Droobli has said was crap. I asked why he hadn’t shown this to our mutual friend and he said he had. One week after she had joined. Shown her exactly what he had shown me and at the time her response was the same as mine. Infuriated I phoned her and asked why would she do that to me we are friends. Her explanation floored me, even though she had seen the same evidence as me, she came up with these ridiculous explanations. Explanations that sounded very familiar so I came back on this forum and there it was right in front of me nearly verbatim. All the crap that had come out of the mouth of Gene, Bob and justabigjoke was now coming out of hers. When I confronted her again, this time in person, she folded and admitted the only way she could get her money back was to sign up more people. She had actually not made a cent. Needless to say we are no longer friends. I have also contact all of our mutual friends and her family to warn them. A couple, like me, were actually about to join now her name is mud and rightly so. Gene, Bob and justabigjoke after reading the information you have been offered, and reading your rubbish replies and justifications, I can only think that you are doing the same thing. You people disgust me. Thank god there are some intelligent and moral people left in the world. I just hope your family and friends desert you as well. I have also made an offical complaint to the ACCC.

1551. Comment by PandoraHo | September 25th, 2009

      To Sally,
      I suggest you put the same comment in your Facebook. These drooblinsects will be die from extinction soon.

1552. Comment by Qazza | September 25th, 2009

      “We” have won. “We” being the anti-Droobli forces. Drooblidiots no longer post here because all of their mindless arguments have been proven incorrect. No one has made money from Droobli except a few at the top. And they have made their money through lies and cons. I’d rather be poor than to be rich by scamming people.

      Take a guy like Gene. He claims to be an SDA – Seventh Day Adventist – yet money is his idol. He gives his faith a bad name.

      Christians will have nothing to do with droobli. They know it’s immoral. Jesus doesn’t want any of his kids scamming people. Droobli is an evil force. Nothing to do with the carpenter who hung on the cross. He is the sole answer and meaning of life. Don’t look to Droobli for salvation.

      Chemicals like hydrogen, helium, oxygen etc always existed or God did. Your choice to believe either position.

1553. Comment by Get it right | September 25th, 2009

      What a bunch of bunk. Same ol same ol pud. Just thought I’d see how this blog attempts to brain wash normal people.

      Sally give me a break if you believe this pud beav is putting out you must have pudding for a brain.

1554. Comment by Marshall Duke | September 25th, 2009

      “Get it Right” is a typical drooblidiot. He/She offers no evidence in support of droobli. All I hear is regret that he was a fool to be taken in by droobli.

      If you are a droobli BA – I feel so sorry for you. Your greed has blinded you to what a poor business idea droobli is. Dub lidiots – read my lips – Droobli has no customers!!!!!! The only traffic on its auction site is from the BAs who have free credits given to them with their annual subscription. That’s right folks, the money wasted this year you have to pay again next year. You guys are the biggest idiots on the planet. You deserve the name drooblidiots !!!! Well done morons !!!!! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha …….

      laughing all the way to your financial loss. (How’s all the droobli money rolling in? Earning a million a week yet ? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha )

1555. Comment by Peter Edwards | September 25th, 2009

      It’s not Marshall. I lost a lot in Droobli. I went in all gung ho. Bought extra credits. Gave ‘em to people. But up notices around the office building. Talked to people around the water cooler. Now I’m the most hated man around here. The boss called me in on Wednesday and told me to cut it out because the other staff threatened to walk out if I preached droobli again. Now I have people pass my desk and say “F*&% You Peter!”

      I was trying to help myself by getting them in the system. But they keep laughing at droobli. Some of them don’t believe it exists since they have have never heard anything on TV or in the papers about it.

      I feel I was stupid to get involved. I have spent thousands. I haven’t bought anything (not interested in the crap they sell!) and I have received two checks totaling $27.98!!!! That’s it for months of work. And I have a very unpleasant work situation. Thanks Droobli.

1556. Comment by Get it right | September 25th, 2009

      Same ol same ol your greed is your claim. What a toasted phony attitude. Where do you come up with all this garbage? You meant drooblielites, surely!

1557. Comment by Beavis, noblesse d'épée | September 25th, 2009

      Get it right said:

      “Sally give me a break if you believe this pud beav is putting out you must have pudding for a brain.”

      Bad sheep, bad!

1558. Comment by S. J. Henderson | September 26th, 2009

      “Get it Right” is a creep. I hate drooblidiots and their evil greed. If I offered “Get it Right” a price for his grandmother so I could chop her up into dog food, he’d say “Do you want my mother as well?”. These people have no shame. No morals. No ethics. They are just greedy. They don’t care who they hurt. All they care about is getting money for nothing.

      Droobli is an evil scam. I know it will fail soon.

1559. Comment by Beavis, noblesse d'épée | September 26th, 2009

      OK, if the auctions aren’t a fraud monkeys will jump out of my ass. Let’s see if any body can figure out what is wrong with these Xpress Auction results:

      LG KF900 Prada II, Retail: $345.99, Sold: $2.00
      Farberware Classic 17-Piece Cookware Set, Retail: $129.99, Sold: $2.00

      And there is more. It looks to me that discouraged BA’s are dumping their unredeemable tokens on a product as a way to cash themselves out. Better to get 25 cents for the tokens then to keep trying to give them away with no takers. There is no way those two product examples would have gotten bid down to $2.00 without a taker unless one individual did bid after bid after bid in order to drive the price down. Think; if you just spent 80 cents to view either these products and they were under ten dollars wouldn’t have just bought them and ended the auction? Of course you would have. Do you think the person who saw them at $3.00 was holding out for a better price? No way. Apparently a few of the sheep grew a brain and found a way out without taking a total hit.

1560. Comment by S. J. Henderson | September 26th, 2009

      Beavis, you’re wasting your time with the Droobli morons. You’re absolutely right to be suspicious of these fake auctions. The story is no one checked the price on either of them when the price was $3. Obviously, Droobli is a hoax. So much doesn’t ring true in Droobli. I’d love to hear what spin a drooblidiot would put on these two auctions.

      More than that, would the drooblidiots who checked the prices at $3 or $2.50 please tell everyone here why you didn’t buy when the price reached 99% off??????

      We all know the answer to that one. Such a moron doesn’t exist. More droobli lies.

1561. Comment by Shaun "Due Diligence" Premo | September 26th, 2009

      Do Droobli people do their “due diligence”? These auction results quoted by Beavis are typical claims of Droobli. Obviously, no such auctions took place.

      Drooblidiots – this is your “due diligence”. Droobli has been caught, once again, posting auction results which couldn’t possibly be true.

      Hey Drooblidiots are you listening? Do you even care? Can you morons even read?

      Forget it. You deserve to be taken by Droobli. May you lose all your cash. Your greed has blinded you to this awful company. Droobli is a scam and the fake auction results are just part of the story.

1562. Comment by Beavis, noblesse d'épée | September 26th, 2009

      Here is a Droobli testimonial:

      “Casio Ex-Z85 Digital Camera
      Sold for: $1.50
      Value: $155.00
      Successful bidder Successful bidder:
      Linda Claire

      I purchased a Casio Ex-Z85 digital camera for $1.50 on Xpress auction. I love my new camera and it has the perfect size for carrying, has a nice display and takes great pictures. I received the camera by UPS in less than a week.”

      This really, really smells.

1563. Comment by Get it right | September 27th, 2009

      Sure it smells like the digital haze you’re in. LOL Beavis!

1564. Comment by Shaun "Due Diligence" Premo | September 27th, 2009

      “Get it Right” ….. are you really “laughing out loud”? Like a big ol’ girl? Just sitting there giggling to yourself? Hey “Get it Right” you’re a real little princess aren’t you? Just giggling and ‘laughing out loud’ to yourself. You are some kind of sick creepo boy.

      Is it funny to see your money go down the drain?

      Drooblidiots deserve each other. They never really do their “due diligence”.

1565. Comment by beavis the conqueror | September 27th, 2009

      “Get it right in the ass” said:

      “Sure it smells like the digital haze you’re in. LOL Beavis!”

      I have a response to this but I can’t quite remember where I put it. Oh, wait. . . never mind. . . I flushed it

1566. Comment by Only Facts | September 28th, 2009

      While looking through this web site
      http://finance.yahoo.com/news/MediocreNet-Group-Technologies-iw-430948213.html?x=0&.v=1

      Information on Medianet stock price, I scrolled down to the bottom under contacts I found Bobby Jensen’s email address in case anybody has a has question for him.

1567. Comment by beavis the conqueror | September 28th, 2009

      Here is another prime example:

      $250 Macy’s card sold via Xpress auction for $21.75.

      They are making this up! I thought this was just a pathetic MLM. It is a true scam. These crooks don’t just exaggerate; THEY LIE! The auctions are being generated by Droobli or by BA’s cashing out. You Drooblidiots are truly being bent over. If you still believe in this “opportunity” you need professional help. For all of you looking into this scam just read the rules to the Xpress auction and you will understand why it is so obvious that this selling price is so telltale.

1568. Comment by Drew Gadjeff | September 29th, 2009

      Droobli is a scam. I have first hand knowledge. They ripped me off. I have spent $4000 on auctions and have no won one thing. They it’s exciting. It’s not.

1569. Comment by Jackie | September 29th, 2009

      I personally know a number of people who have purchased items auctionedon the GroobLi site. One in particular just won a brand new $32,000 Ford Mustang Convertible for $825.00 in the ‘Unique Bid’ auction. She picked her new car up at a local dealer less than five miles from her house. Another woman I know got a 42″ plasma screen TV for $240.00 — another guy got a $2,500 travel voucher for $250.00 — there are many more examples of the incredible savings people I personally know have experienced in GroobLi’s reverse auctions. That is not including all the savings available through the ‘virtual mall’ shopping portal of the site. This site is real, vital, and gaining momentum as we speak. The key to it’s success is customer satisfacton and there are many happy customers who are referring their friends which is the way GroobLi’s customer base is growing — through a viral marketing ‘word-of-mouth’ vehicle fueled by the Internet — much like how Facebook and MySpace grew. The difference with GroobLi is when you are a registered customer and you refer others to the site via the ‘tell a friend’ link — you get free bid credits for the auctions. There is absoutely no ’scam’ on the customer side of this. From the business perspective, Business Associates of GroobLi are not being ’scammed’ and this is not a pyramid scheme. The focus is customer acquistion — Business Associates telling others about the site. If they want to bring others in to build a team of people doing this they can and it will result in higher commissions but the majority of the money they are earning is based on the customer side — not on bringing in more Business Associates. Therefore, you can become a GroobLi Business Associate and never bring one person in under you — just get the word out about the site and get more people to register as customers (at no cost) and start buying credits to use in the auctions. It’s really a very simple business model and this is a corporation that has implemented one small aspect of the network marketing business model as a means to acquire customers and get the word out about the site. The opted to go this route versus traditional advertising methods that are becoming less effective as people TIVO through commercials and newspapers are shutting down. GroobLi Business Associates are merely the company’s marketing department to build a customer base. It costs millions of dollars to promote and advertise a business – especially a new one. GroobLi opted to allocate those funds to Business Associates who bring them their customer base — it’s that simple. No hidden agendas and not rocket science — they are just capitalizing on the power of ‘word-of-mouth’ and the Internet — something many companies have embraced. So, you can talk all the smack you want about this company — there are always ‘naysayers’ — I’m sure eBay and Google encountered the same when they launched. However, the evidence of success lies in those happy customers who are quick to tell their friends about the amazing deals they have found at GroobLi — THAT is what will catapult this company’s evolution and position as an ecommerce giant.

1570. Comment by beavis of Aramathia | September 29th, 2009

      Oh, now I get it. I so totally misunderstood Droobli. I should have read the Drooblispeak websites and watched the Drooblispeak webinars instead of looking at the facts.

      Drooblispeak good; facts bad. BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

1571. Comment by beavis of Alderon | September 29th, 2009

      Did I sound like a sheep when I did that?

1572. Comment by Only Facts | September 29th, 2009

      Jackie
      I understand you would not want to say the name of you “friend” by can you at least tell us the name and location of the dealer? This would help clear up a lot of matters.

1573. Comment by eaglescout | September 29th, 2009

      beavis the conqueror wrote:

      Macy’s card sold via Xpress auction for $21.75.

      They are making this up! I thought this was just a pathetic MLM. It is a true scam. These crooks don’t just exaggerate; THEY LIE! The auctions are being generated by Droobli or by BA’s cashing out.
      …
      For all of you looking into this scam just read the rules to the Xpress auction and you will understand why it is so obvious that this selling price is so telltale.

      Excellent catch. I went and looked it up myself before commenting on it. Even stranger: I just saw a $200 Mastercard sold at $78.25.

      Even if you checked the current price and it turned out to be $125, why wouldn’t you claim the 75 free dollars?

1574. Comment by eaglescout | September 29th, 2009

      Jackie wrote:

      …GroobLi Business Associates are merely the company’s marketing department to build a customer base. It costs millions of dollars to promote and advertise a business – especially a new one. GroobLi opted to allocate those funds to Business Associates who bring them their customer base — it’s that simple. …

      So, according to your claim, GroobLi has abandoned the traditional marketing model, and has chosen to “allocate those funds to Business Associates”.

      Jackie, are you aware that GroobLi Business Associates are the ones paying GroobLi to promote GroobLi, and not the other way around?

1575. Comment by Only Facts | September 29th, 2009

      Eaglescout.
      I can’t believe you still don’t get it. In relation to the $200 Master card. The loosing Droobli BA’s had about $400 worth of fun sitting in front of their screens clicking their little hearts out. It must have been like Mardi Gras.

1576. Comment by Jennifer | September 29th, 2009

      So I was curious about Droobli because of all the buzz and decided to try it out. I purchased a pre-paid card and used some petty cash that I would have otherwise used to buy expensive coffee in the morning. I checked out all three venues over a course of five days and recorded my bids, times, and amounts (btw, I have been trained in research methods in three different academic schools of thought). This is what I found out…

      I “bid” on 9 different items ranging in price from $25-$1300. On several of the items, I knew what the low bid was because I had won it. Then I placed additional bids so that I could track progression. For the most part, the first two auctions went about as planned. The items sold for within half of a standard deviation of the expected purchase price. However, when I started to review the data for the next two items that I placed bids on, I noticed something a little fishy. Previous amounts that I had bid that were noted as “not unique (with a big red check mark by them” were now “unique” (although not the lowest price). In a period of less than 12 hours this occurred 4 times.

      My conclusion, based on my own research, and not the opinion of others is that this is indeed a SCAM. I will be reporting my findings to the proper US authorities just in case they need additional documentation.

1577. Comment by Go research | September 29th, 2009

      Hey do some research on me. When you register I can give you ten credits to try out the auctions.

1578. Comment by beavis of Alderon | September 29th, 2009

      You’re a Droobli rep; research done.

1579. Comment by beavis, Khan of the Mongol | September 29th, 2009

      I think we are entering new territory. It appears that the auctions are fraudulent. “Jennifer’s” experience wreaks of fraud; the unrealistic sales prices wreak of fraud. What’s a poor Drooblidiot to do? At first I thought the disgruntled BA’s were cashing out. It appears that exit door is closed. Oh well, it’s probably still a tax write off. The fact that the “tokens” are nothing but accounting entries is a disappointment, though; it would have been nice to have kept a few jars of them as collector items

1580. Comment by Bob | September 30th, 2009

      New territory?
      I think the fact that people do not listen to, or read the directions takes place all the time.

      Save money or waste it…if you investigate the site you will see the tremendous value. And see the value the site offers to all customers…at least read the directions if you are a customer. (or listen to them)

      If you are a GroobLi store owner, you have the responsibility of acquiring the proper training available through the company. And becoming familiar enough with the site to be able to explain the value to your customers as well.
      The credits are your advertising…and the machine that drives your traffic. It is not our job to ever talk someone into something…nor is it even necessary. Why would you want to talk the wrong person into the business?

      It is laughingly silly to read some of the assertions in this blog. But the entertainment value is not worth the possible damage in the minds of information seekers who happen across this site.

      So here goes:

      Membership Price clubs never give you a cut of the revenue they charge you just to “get a low price”

      As far as the auctions go…never, ever any risk in the Xpress. Only the 100% probability that it will be the lowest price. If you find it lower then take them up on the guarantee. If it is half off, let’s see if you can resist telling anyone.

      As far as the unique, have some fun, it is a game, you might get something you could not normally afford. I would very happily use the free credits I get on a regular basis (by recommending other customers). Customers do as well.

      Occasionally buying a few credits even for Unique makes sense as well, especially if you just saved some money elsewhere in the portal. I know people who do all the time.

      Why would people want to spend more than less?
      It is an obvious no-brainer…but again I guess that is only for “Most People”.

      How ever many people Beavis is…and even if a few people choose to “see things a little different”. There is hope for you as well.

      Take notice of the things taking place with Droobli this fall, as they position themselves with a global customer base that uses and loves the site. Watch it, use it, or let it go by.

      I think it is realistic to say that there will be “some people” who do not want to use the site…and that is OK.

1581. Comment by Only Facts | September 30th, 2009

      Jennifer.

      If you look back at some of the posts on this site, as well as other sites, the legitimacy of the auctions have always been in question as you are 100% reliant on the honesty of the company. This is why it is so important to look at the history of the people involved. As Beavis and Eaglescout pointed out a $200 Mastercard going for $78.25 screams concerns. How did it get so low. There are only 2 possible reasons.
      1. This was a fake auction.
      2. The BA’s in Droobli couldnt run a raffle.
      Anybody, and I mean anybody should be able to see that these products, on this auction should be by far the most popular and really should never go below $150 bid before it is purchased. In theory you would could make much more real cash money just buying these products than you could ever make selling licences.

      The whole point is, once you get away from the Droobli propaganda and really look at it nothing makes sense about this company.

      Bob you are right it is a no-brainer.

1582. Comment by Jennifer | September 30th, 2009

      On September 30th, 2009 Bob wrote

      “New territory? I think the fact that people do not listen to, or read the directions takes place all the time.”

      I read the directions Bob. Second paragraph of the “This is How Unique Bid Auctions Work” section of the website. The site notes, “if another user also places a bid of $1.75 in the course of the auction, this amount is no longer unique.”

      If you place a bid, and you are notified within seconds that, “your bid was neither unique nor the lowest single offer” how does the bid later then turn into a bid that is, “unique, but not the lowest single offer.” In theory, it cannot. However, it happened 4 times in less than 12 hours.

      Before I checked out the site, I really didn’t have an opinion one way or another about GroobLi. I was simply curious. As a result of the concerns expressed elsewhere on the internet (I didn’t find this site until after I discovered my findings) I decided to keep a log of all my bids. The data from my experience shows that there appears to be a problem.

      If you don’t believe me, run your own test. Here’s a simple way to run your experiment.

      1. Write the title of the item that you are bidding on at the top of the page.
      2. Below that, write the date and time of the end of the auction.
      3. As you place your bids, note the amount you bid, the time, and the date.
      4. If your bid is “the lowest single offer” highlight it with a green marker.
      5. If your bid is “unique, but not the lowest single offer” highlight it with a yellow marker.
      6. If your bid is “neither unique nor the lowest single offer “cross out your bid with an X making sure that you have noted the price, the time, and the date.
      7. **If your bid changes from one that is “”neither unique nor the lowest single offer” to one that is “unique, but not the lowest single offer” circle the bid. If you end up with circles around numbers that have been crossed out, you’ll come to the same conclusion that I did.

      You don’t have to own SPSS or SASS to get a valid result.

      Could I be wrong. Yes. I could have incorrectly noted that my initial bids were “neither unique nor the lowest single offer.” Could I have made the same error 4 times. Yes, it is possible. It is likely. No.

      Again, just my thoughts on the situation. I’m just an average consumer looking for alternatives (both buying and selling) to Amazon and EBay (I’m not a huge fan of either but that is a discussion for another time). If you decide to conduct the experiment I’ve outlined above, I’ve like to hear about your results-positive or negative.

1583. Comment by Bob | September 30th, 2009

      Thank you “Only Facts”

      Perhaps you did not mean it that way…but I took it as a compliment.

      What you guys seem to be discussing is the unfortunate “cashing out” of credits of from a couple of disconnected business associates.

      No surprise…

      If I was coerced into buying a package as a Business associate with no training (by someone who was untrained), I would eventually do the same thing!

      After all…what else can you do with a ‘credit package’ if you do not know that to do with it, and a shopping site that cannot generate a revenue stream with no training?

      This is a very viable and serious business model.

      People follow directions to assemble their daughters bike for a birthday present… why not follow the ones that come with a serious business model?

      Not a convincing attack.
      No scam.
      No fraud.
      No factual case against GroobLi…

      see you in a month or so…I’m busy

1584. Comment by beavis the Impaler | September 30th, 2009

      Why is it that Drooblidiots like Bob can never answer the allegations? A group of us see what appears to be fraudulent auction results. There is no explanation that we can arrive at that suggests otherwise. The Drooblidiots response? Ignore the allegations and babble something about us not understanding their auction. If you understand the auctions so well then please explain why the Xpress auction results defy logic (or should we just ignore the man behind the curtain).

1585. Comment by Micah Kudrow | September 30th, 2009

      Droobli is a stupid scam for stupid people. The BAs are so desperate that they come on here and tell lies. They are so worried that the fraud that is Droobli will be exposed.

      Take Bob for example. His arguments make no sense. He sounds so desperate propping up a “wonderful business model” that can’t work. It’s a ponzi scheme Bob. And this blog is saving hundreds from entering your ponzi scheme. Why don’t you get a real job and stop trying to get people into your droobli scam.

      If droobli needs people to shop online to make it work, why does it rely on poor communicators like you to “spread the word”? Ever hear of advertising?

      And Bob like the moron you are, you believe the drooblispeak explanation why the company won’t advertise. Droobli stinks and needs to be destroyed. The leaders should be arrested and jailed.

1586. Comment by Jennifer | September 30th, 2009

      It appears as though post 1583 by Bob is supposed to be a reply to comment 1581 posted by Only Facts. If I am wrong Bob, please correct me.

      In post 1581 Only Facts notes that “a $200 Mastercard (sold) for $78.25.”

      Bob’s response (1583) to this allegation is “what you guys seem to be discussing is the unfortunate “cashing out” of credits of from a couple of disconnected business associates.”

      First, let’s assume that I have not entered this conversation and that posts 1576 and 1582 do not exist (we’ll get back to those posts in a moment).

      As I understand you then Bob (note the applied interpersonal communications skills), you are attributing the price differentials of the items sold and the reported sales prices to “a couple” of disenfranchised former apparently untrained “business associates.”

      Again, if I am wrong Bob and that is not what you said, please correct me. If I did understand you correctly then…

      my new questions to Bob are:

      1) Exactly how many do you consider to be a couple?

      Two, Five, Ten. Personally, I consider a couple to be less than three and more than one. And surely “a couple” of “unfortunate” “disconnected business associates” redeeming their “credits” can’t possibly impact the price of items selling on a “very viable and serious business model.” If a few disconnect business associates purchasing items really drives the price of a $200 cash card down more than 50% then your business model is NOT viable because their purchases should not have a that sort of impact on sales price.

      *Bob’s response to Only Facts implies either very little website traffic or many more than “a few” disconnected business associates redeeming their credits.

      2) What happens to businesses when untrained supervisors recruit and train employees that won’t read directions?

      The second part of Bob’s response (1583) to Only Facts is just as disturbing as the first part. Bob writes that, “If I was coerced into buying a package as a Business associate with no training (by someone who was untrained), I would eventually do the same thing!” This implies that he is aware that people are indeed being “coerced into buying a package as a Business associate” from people “with no training.” And that to rectify their situations (that is being recruited by a supervisor with no training) that they should just, well, uhm follow the directions just like they would if they purchased a bicycle.

      *Bob’s response to just facts implies that untrained people are tasked with recruiting. His response also implies that the SOP (standard operating procedure) at GroobLi is to make sure that they have a set of directions to read and that if they read the directions then if they don’t succeed well then they should just start cashing in their credits to purchase things on the website. Third, his attitude implies a that GroobLi is not business associate centric (e.g if you won’t read the directions or don’t follow them then you deserve to fail). If your long-term business model was based on referrals and you owned a company wouldn’t you be concerned about the training and success rate of your employees?

      *Bob’s response implies that Droobli has a poor training program, lack of oversight, and a suspect organizational culture

      3. And last but not least Bob…please do respond to my previous posts (1576 & 1582) regarding the bidding.

1587. Comment by undercoverbeavis | September 30th, 2009

      Jennifer said:

      “3. And last but not least Bob…please do respond to my previous posts (1576 & 1582) regarding the bidding.”

      Bob has a point to what he is saying and I’m sure after all of the posts he has made on this forum that eventually he is going to tell us what it is.

1588. Comment by John | September 30th, 2009

      Hi guys!

      I’m from Australia and I have signed up with Droobli.

      I’m not here to spruik it or slander it or whatever. You can look at it whatever way you choose to. If people want to join, let them join and if it goes under they will have learnt their lesson.

      However, regardless of what you think about Droobli, why do some of you care so much about people joining it? It’s not as if they are using your money to sign up. They are using their OWN money to invest in it, not yours.

      I have made a plan for myself with Droobli – if I don’t have my initial investment (i signed up as a Bronze = $940 AUD) by the end of the my initial 12 months, then I will gracefully bow out. However, I will be exhausting every avenue to earn money from.

      This way I have invested in it, but not enough to break my bank and sacrifice other things in my life that I need. If I’ve tried my absolute best and wrung out every avenue and have failed, then I can sleep easy at night knowing I tried my best and that I wasn’t a very good network marketer.

      As I said at the start of this message, I’m not here to promote Droobli or can the shit out of it, I’m just asking that some of you shouldn’t take it so personally when someone comes on here and says they have signed up and the people who have signed up shouldn’t forever be justifying themselves to the nay sayers. You’ve made your decision, now stick to it and get working to make yourself some money.

1589. Comment by beavis | October 1st, 2009

      John,

      So you’ve decided to ignore all of the information surfacing that indicates fraudulent activity in the operation you are selling and you’ve managed to set yourself a financial goal for the next 12 months. How nice.

1590. Comment by Micah Kudrow | October 1st, 2009

      Wow John, do you really think your plan sounds reasonable? I’m staggered that you have an idea that your approach is measured and thoughtful!

      Do you know how moronic it sounds that you will get out of Droobli if you don’t get to 0 dollars at the end of 12 months? So presumably you will stay with Droobli if you earn 50 cents in 12 months?

      I love you John. I want to do business with you!!!! You’re my kind of sucker. Let’s do business. Please let me know your email address!!! I’ve got schemes that will give you a guaranteed 75 cents in 12 months.

      Well ladies and gentlemen there you have it from his own lips! John is the type of super moron Droobli just loves.

      Love your business plan John. You’re a financial wizard!!! Your business plan is as good as Droobli’s.

      I just can’t get over John. He was made for Droobli. Is he for real? Is he a Droobli clone?

1591. Comment by John | October 1st, 2009

      Clearly if I’ve only made 50c more than my initial investment, then it wasn’t a wise decision.

      I haven’t come here to be victimised or flamed.

      It would appear anyone who offers there opinion that is different to the masses it is shot down with insult after insult.

      Ok, so if Droobli is a scam etc etc can any of you suggest any MLM businesses that are reputable? Is there any business out there that falls under MLM that isn’t a scam?

1592. Comment by Bob | October 1st, 2009

      John,
      Your opinion is not different than the masses…just a few people on here.

      Unfortunately they have a problem with Multi Level Marketing in general. Getting paid on other people who share good news with people is only attractive to most people.

      As long as you have a good product, service, company…it is a volunteer thing. Not a talk people into something thing.

      I know of many good and viable companies…but one with the potential Global business for you and your family that Droobli has to offer though.

      Stay plugged into the Company…learn the business (from the business) and make some money for you, and your business partners. And most importantly, save some money for all of your customers. Our product is:

      Products and services that give value, and save people money (in every country in the world soon).

1593. Comment by Eugene | October 1st, 2009

      More drastic revisions to the Droobli wikipedia entry in the past day or so. Check it out, folks…

1594. Comment by Only Facts | October 1st, 2009

      Sorry If this becomes a long post, however there are a couple of things I wish to discuss.

      Beavs.

      Congratulations on having your research as the first paragraph on this site. I must say I’m a bit jealous.

      Eaglescout.

      Come on surely the revelation of Rik McCoy being heavily involved with Skybiz and Travelogia, both proven scams, is worth a mention up the top. Especially when Droobli gleefully states that Rik has been Executive Vice President of two network marketing companies. Could they be Skybiz and Travelogia? Oh that’s right, and he is literally in the scam hall of shame. Throw me a bone.

      John

      I cant speak for others, but the reason I care is like you I am an Australian and was approached in about early March to Join Droobli. I watched the video etc etc etc and was gob smacked with the arrogance, the exaggerations the so called Business Model and the simple fact you have to pay to find the price on things. The person that tried to sign me up assured me he had looked into the company in great detail and it was legit. Doing my own research I found it was far from Legit. When I brought the information I found to attention of my friend he had no idea. The only research he had done was through Droobli sites. This is how this system works. All I am doing here is offering information I have found so people like yourself actually know the facts. You may notice that pro Droobli people on this site rarely answer questions. They just repeat a couple of paragraphs from the book of Droobli. Over and over and over again that aren’t even relevant to the original question. Several times a year I am asked to speak at seminars. As well as discussing good business I also discuss bad business. Since May I have been using Droobli as an example of the latter, and how people can be sucked in. At the begin of that section I ask if anybody has heard about the company, and some actually have. I then ask if anyone has joined or is thinking about joining. Not one person has ever put their hand up. This is because these people are true business people. Trained and experienced business people can see right through this company.

      If you would have invested your AU $980 in Medianet when it was announced that Droobli was taking over and sold at 25c as I did. Your AU$980 would now be AU$2722.22. That is good business.

      Bob.

      You say ” Your opinion is not different than the masses…just a few people on here”. This statement is a falsehood. There are many other anti droobli sites out there, and you are aware of them, so why do you make a claim that is so easily challenged? A claim you know is false?

      You say ” Learn the business (from the business)…….. That statement, like Droobli is BAD BUSINESS. Any business must and I mean must source information from all possible sources or the business will live in a bubble. A bubble that will bust.

      I do apologise Bob if I come across a bit aggressive, however you must stop offering business advice that is wrong. You are dealing with peoples lives here. By all means feel free to try and sign people up, but make sure you give them all the information.

1595. Comment by beavis, The King of Pop | October 1st, 2009

      Only Facts said:

      “Beavs.

      Congratulations on having your research as the first paragraph on this site. I must say I’m a bit jealous.”

      It’s very easy to rise to the top. Simply think like Einstein, write like Shakespeare and copy/paste anything you find interesting with Google.

1596. Comment by Only Facts | October 2nd, 2009

      Beavis, The King of Pop.

      I don’t agree with some of the things you say, and especially don’t agree with the way you say it………………but by god I would love to have a beer with you sometime.

1597. Comment by Micah Kudrow | October 2nd, 2009

      I hate the way Bob is grooming John. It makes me feel dirty. Droobli pimps are the worst. John isn’t very educated as his poor grammar shows. He wrote:

      “It would appear anyone who offers there opinion that is different to the masses it is shot down with insult after insult.”

      He should have written “It would appear that anyone, who offers an opinion that is different from the masses, is shot down with insult after insult.”

      Subtle differences I know but it shows what an education can do for you.

      John why don’t you get a real job until you come up with a brilliant business idea on your own? Stop trying to get rich off the efforts of others.

      With your lack of education you may have few employment choices, but you are exactly the type Droobli tries to ensnare.

1598. Comment by Get it right | October 2nd, 2009

      That’s the whole beauty of it educated one. Let others help you make money while they make money too. What’s wrong with that? It’s been going on for millennia. Get educated a bit more. Educated.

1599. Comment by Bob | October 2nd, 2009

      I happened to peek in here on my way to work.

      Only Facts:
      I actually never “try to sign people up”.

      People view the site, and see how to save money as a customer.
      Some of them ask how to make money, and want their own virtual store. It could be in individual, a non profit or a corporation. It is actually a virtual store that can be branded. You can see some examples on http://www.GroobLiPartner.com

      I have never heard of anyone buying something from the site and not receiving an item. That would be a red flag to me.

      I know of no problems from an operational point of view, which is what is most important. The stuff I have read in here is obviously well seasoned with the “the witch hunt phenomena”. I think we would all agree that eventually people realized maybe they were wrong.

      Micah,
      Most of the people I know who are involved in GroobLi are very educated. I have met many professional people in the business like doctors, lawyers, and business minded entrepreneurs. They are actually the ones who tend to understand it.
      It offers a valuable service to its customers.
      If you do not offer a valuable service to your customers, and do not plan on having customers, then you are a scam.

      One more thing:
      Dr. Charles King in smarter than the average bear. Agreed?
      He is involved in the Droobli, and was at the GroobLi convention.
      http://bit.ly/gAdW

      You also have to understand Network Marketing in general to get beyond the stigma.
      http://bit.ly/112Z8r

1600. Comment by John | October 2nd, 2009

      Well done, Micah.

      You have just proven what sort of person you are.

      Put forward your argument all you’d like, but please resist the urge to lower yourself to the intellect of a 2 year old.

      May as well have said at the end ‘i know you are, but what am i?!’

1601. Comment by beavis | October 2nd, 2009

      Bob the Sheep said:

      “Dr. Charles King in smarter than the average bear.”

      Bernie Madoff is smarter than the average bear, goose and porcupine.

      Bob the Sheep also said:

      “You also have to understand Network Marketing in general to get beyond the stigma.”

      Then you have to read up on pyramid schemes to put the stigma right back.

1602. Comment by Micah Kudrow | October 3rd, 2009

      “Get it Right”, Bob and John are typical of the drooblidiots. They are coarse , uneducated and have no business sense. Listen you three, you can’t make money from Droobli. When will you morons ever learn.

      Bob the liar says he’s met plenty of lawyers and doctors in Droobli. Can anyone seriously imagine a doctor or lawyer damaging his or her reputation by droobli pimping at a party. Can you see it? “Oh, it’s an exciting business model where you pay 80 cents to find out the price of whatever they’re selling. Much better than that free ebay!” C’mon Bob, unlike you we’re not idiots. You have never met a doctor or lawyer involved with Droobli unless they had some legal impediment to practice.

      Then Bob, who must be Droobli’s most idiotic PR person said this in Post 1599 about the Droobli lawyers and doctors: “They are actually the (only) ones who tend to understand it.”

      Bob congratulations! You must be the biggest drooblidiot of them all. You’re saying only lawyers and doctors can understand the droobli business model.

      I’m so thankful that I’m too stupid to understand the droobli business model. The great droobli business model that has failed in every country that it has been tried in.

      Well done Bob. I think your droobli pimps will be banging on your door and telling you to shut up.

1603. Comment by Nikos | October 3rd, 2009

      Ah, you guys make me laugh on both sides. Time to get a life, perchance? There’s a beautiful world out there, whether or not you like GroobLi.

1604. Comment by Derek Freeborn | October 3rd, 2009

      Nikos, thanks. We write our own material here. So you have an interest in Droobli? Would you like to make money while you sleep? Would you like to do nothing and get rich at the same time? Would you like to be a part of a company which claims to “support needy people globally” yet gives less money in all its operating countries than your local McDonald’s?

      Would you like to be a part of a company that at the mere mention of its name people will start running away from you? Would you like to be part of a company which has crooks as its directors? Would you like to be part of a company which charges customers to find out the price of goods?

      Then, my friend, Droobli is for you.

      If you’re lazy, immoral, anti-social, greedy and a personality-free zone – then Droobli is for you.

1605. Comment by Maven | October 3rd, 2009

      i just got a call from an acquaintance about the “Droobli” opportunity. So i checked them out on their own site. Scary… in the Agreement under Terms and Conditions AND in the Policies and Procedures there it is stated that Droobli Network can “amend” their policies while a BA (business associate) is under contract with them and that the BA has to accept these changes. The BA, also, cannot cancel the agreement until fulfilling a one year term. Scary… is this dictatorship? There is more text devoted in the Terms and Conditions to defense of the Droobli Network than to the progression and advancing of the company. Interesting food for thought!

1606. Comment by beavis | October 3rd, 2009

      Droobli treating its’ BA’s unfairly? Who’d have thought. . .

1607. Comment by Mort Allison | October 3rd, 2009

      Droobli is an evil scam. All the droobli people are losers. The Droobli people like Bob, Gene, Jason, etc. are absolute idiots. Funny how only about 10 people have come on here defending Droobli as opposed to the hundreds who have dumped on it here.

      Hey Drooblidiots, how’s the “no advertising policy” of Droobli going? How long will Droobli continue to let us inform the world as to the “merits” of Droobli? Can’t Droobli think of anything to say in an ad campaign?

      It must be fun watching your “investment” go down the toilet.

1608. Comment by J. Khabli | October 3rd, 2009

      I am sick of Droobli. My people lost money with Droobli in Germany. I want to get people interested in disrupting a Droobli event. I mean in a big way. With masks and committed people. These scum must be stopped. I want to get 1000 people who are committed and don’t mind being held overnight by police. Will you join me?

1609. Comment by beavis | October 4th, 2009

      J. Khabli,

      yeah, sure, we’ll just wade in like the Confederate Army at Perryville. Can we get our parking validated before we get disruptive?

1610. Comment by Nikos | October 4th, 2009

      I have no interest in GroobLi myself, Derek. But who cares, really? If someone wants to invest, they will. If they don’t, they won’t. Mudslinging over the internet isn’t really going to change anything. Better to go out and enjoy life. I see why you all talk here, to warn others, but most people won’t read too far beyond the original article, making this a lot of hot air for no good reason.

      Anyway, carry on! I quite enjoy reading the outrages!

1611. Comment by Jennifer | October 4th, 2009

      When push comes to shove… people will do what they please. Some will follow the advise of those who believe Droobli is a scam and others will jump aboard regardless of what they read. Time will tell what comes of Droobli. If they are a scam, the word will travel quickly, based on negative customer feedback. If their idea catches on and their following grows… they will survive. Whatever the case, this blog will not determine the success or failure of Droobli. It will only leave the adversaries to question the intelligence of those who do not share their point of view.

1612. Comment by beavis | October 4th, 2009

      Jennifer,

      Actually we do effect recruitment here. We are consistently the second hit on Google for the search term “Droobli”. If they read this before the “investment” I believe we have a significant impact. eaglescout has put the most damning facts about this scam at the start of the blog; whether they read the rest is not pertinent. I, on the other hand, enjoy smacking some of these die hard fools around.

      If you want a fun read check out this “Droobli debate” from May at http://www.talkhomebusiness.com/droobli-forum/5822-droobli-debate-2.html between this jackass Jamison and “sivaeb” (which I noticed spells “beavis” backwards). Let’s just say there was a bit of modding at the end of the debate, sivaeb’s account was banned and then Jamison declared victory. I’m sure you can figure out how it really ended.

1613. Comment by Nikos | October 4th, 2009

      “affect”.

1614. Comment by beavis | October 4th, 2009

      Thank God somebody proofing my work. Niko, there is a bunch of typos that myself and others have made. Please catalog them with a searchable index so that we may all revel in each others failures.

1615. Comment by Gary | October 4th, 2009

      Beavis,

      I read the droobli debate you mentioned above and that Jamison guy is a real knob, he basically chucked Sivaeb of his debate then claimed victory!!

1616. Comment by beavis | October 4th, 2009

      Gary,

      Glad you enjoyed it; it was fun making it happen with that stupid sap. He even had applauding minions, but enough was conveyed to place some serious doubt about Droobli on a definitely pro-Droobli site. I’d rate this as a success for the anti-Droobli efforts. Fortunately his ego told him he won the debate (after his editing) so he didn’t mod it into oblivion. Feel free to undermine eny of he conversations on his site. You have sivaeb’s blessing

1617. Comment by J. Khabli | October 5th, 2009

      Droobli must be destroyed Beavis. I want out Jamieson but my English isn’t good. Droobli is a scam. A con.

1618. Comment by beavis | October 5th, 2009

      J. Khabli,

      You’ve got ACN that sells a videophone setup that has more reps than a market for its product, Monavie that sells snake oil, Mary Kay that trains the most annoying sales teams on the planet, etc., etc. I pick on Droobli because their claims are so ridiculous and their product is so stupid. OK, Droobli is probably more ethically challenged then the others after the recent revelations about the next to impossible auction results, but what I’m getting at is you can pick any of these jackass MLM’s and make a case that they need to go. And when they do implode another will take its place because there is always a sucker for the MLM “get rich while you do nothing” concept. Just do your part and stick it to them when you can. Trust me, Droobli is not going to be around very long because their auction concept really sucks and their mediocre shopping mall can’t sustain them.

1619. Comment by Get it right | October 5th, 2009

      Mort Allison has all the answers HaHa.

1620. Comment by My name is required by who | October 5th, 2009

      Hey I’d like to do nothing and get rich. Tell me you wouldn’t! But the point is what would you do with it.
      I’d use it for good causes. Put my kids through college.
      Build myself a new house and in the mean time teach my sons carpentry. But here I’d have to work. I’ve already taught 3 sons.Maybe a new car. Take a nice vacation. Just think of the money you could make while you slept or while you’re doing something else.. Yes I don’t mind easy money. Set up your store and watch it roll in. Sounds great to me.

1621. Comment by sfjcook | October 5th, 2009

      I cannot believe this site. I found it by accident but it is funny that people spend all day making posts about this. Don’t you have something better to do?

      Anyway, I understand why people are suspicious about GroobLi. It has been launched as an MLM, it is a brand new Auction concept, and people are afraid of things that they are not familiar with. The facts are that GroobLi is going to go Public on the NY Stock exchange in the next 18 months, they are starting National TV, Internet, and Radio advertising and they will have the 1st seamless Global Auction and Shopping Platform in the World, unlike eBay and Amazon. I have personally won items from the site and purchased items from the site on the Shopping side and saved considerable money. The items showed up promptly and in perfect condition. I could go on GroobLi.com right now, spend 80 cents or 1.60 in credits on the Xpress Auction and save 20 percent on an Apple Laptop and already did a couple months ago. So, my question is how isn’t that of value to a consumer? Apple doesn’t even discount their products. See for yourself if you want here is a link to a current auction on GroobLi to an Apple computer. http://us.droobli.com/Apple-iMac-20-inch__5_3749. I used one GroobLi credit 80 cents and looked at the price which retails for 1113.99 and I or anybody else could buy it right now for 966.75. Where else are you going to find that deal?

1622. Comment by beavis | October 5th, 2009

      My name is required by who,

      Yes, it does sound great. You can be a real businessman with your own constantly expanding down line. Seven, even eight figure per year income is attainable! You get everything you need: your own website, a fancy title to impress your friends, webinars that keep you motivated and business cards with “MORON” spelled out in bold type. Feel free to tattoo this on your forehead (at your own expense, of course).

1623. Comment by beavis | October 5th, 2009

      sfjcook,

      You make me tired. . .

1624. Comment by Only Facts | October 6th, 2009

      My name is required by who

      Nice to see you back Gene.

1625. Comment by Ake | October 6th, 2009

      HAhAha this place is a laugh! I stumbled onto to it too and beavis you sure are one sick puppy.

      Where ever you go in the world or on the net pick any topic you like and you will find a bunch of dumb-arse morons calling other people morons!

      You know beavis you must really try to get a life mate . Seriously! What’s up? – you stuck to a wheel chair all day or something? or I know, your wife left you – and why wouldn’t she!

      When Droobli accomplishes what it has set out to do ALL you blithering clowns will call your circus act to another arena and pick something else to blab about because you are insecure about you know what! Anyway if anyone takes these guys seriously just call beavis to join his circus!

1626. Comment by Bo Harrison | October 6th, 2009

      Dear Mr Cook (Post 1621)

      There is a lot wrong with Droobli. The only reason you are pretending to be ‘excited’ about 10% off of crap you don’t even want is because you have a vested interest in Droobli’s success. You are no longer impartial.

      In a country of 300 million people there are about 30 completed auctions per day. Droobli is small potatoes. The “exciting auction concept” has failed to grab any attention. You stated that you’ve won auctions. Doesn’t that make you suspicious?There are only 30 auctions a day but you’ve won some. How many people does Duli have? Uncle Ernie and his dog?

      Ebay completes more than a million auctions a day. Do you get why your enthusiasm sounds like a little kid? Sure it’s easy to win ebay auctions because there are so many.

      You mentioned spending $1.60 to check prices twice to save 20% on an Apple laptop. But you’re not guaranteed to get that laptop. You may spend thousands of dollars before you ever win a Droobli auction.

      Also, for you to get a low price with Droobli a number of other people have to lose money. Someone reported a Droobli claim that a Harley Davidson (this is the sort of impulse buying crap sold by Droobli) sold for $5000. No one believes Droobli’s statement that that happened. People would’ve had to click 80,000 times and in so doing spend $64,000 (80,000 X 80 cents). Now, for me, I don’t want a Harley if a lot of people had to spend $64 000 so I could get it. It’s immoral.

      But that’s the way it is with Droobli people – their dreams of quick riches for doing nothing blinds them to their sense of right and wrong.

1627. Comment by Bo Harrison | October 6th, 2009

      Dear Ake,

      You said: “When Droobli accomplishes what it has set out to do ALL you blithering clowns will call your circus act to another arena and pick something else to blab about because you are insecure about you know what!”

      I am willing to bet you $100 000 that Droobli fails. My lawyer will draw us up the paperwork for such a bet. Would you like to proceed. You will need to identify yourself to me. Not here but by email later. Let’s both put our money where our mouths are.

1628. Comment by Nikos | October 6th, 2009

      lol. You’re prepared to bet $100,000 on something, but you think it’s wrong for other people to make a bet on whatever?

1629. Comment by NewArrival | October 6th, 2009

      Hi – I’m back for more “facts”.
      Im considering joining Droobli after a month of research allthough people have very different oppinions about the business model.
      I just read that the books will open from feb. 2010 due to the Nasdaq introduction. Untill then I’ll wait and I guess We’ll see
      who gets to call who a moron

1630. Comment by Only Facts | October 6th, 2009

      NewArrival

      Firstly congratulations on holding off for while before considering Droobli. A wise move. However you state…the books will be open from Feb 2010 due to NASDAQ introduction.

      I don’t think it will be as clear as you may first think. Medianet is currently on the exchange and will remain so. The only difference is, is that it will be controlled by CG Holdings (a holding company for the Droobli companies and others) not Droobli itself. This means that the books will be opened for CG Holdings.

      Also, there has been a lot of talk about Dr King’s involvement legitimising Droobli eg; “Dr Charles King would not risk his reputation etc.” while I’m not attacking Dr King’s reputation, I don’t know enough about the Gentleman, it would not be the first time a reputation has been destroyed with a bad decision. For example Nikola Tesla, Shin Jeong-Ah, David Kelly and even Richard Nixon. All well thought of people until the ultimate mistake was made. As Beavis points out Bernie Madoff fooled a lot of highly educated people for a very long time. Here is my main concern in relation to Dr King. At the commencement of his involvement with Droobli, Rik McCoy, proven to be heavily involved with 2 major scams, was on the management team. This brings up 2 very interesting points.

      1. Dr King did not undertake his due diligence.

      2. Dr King was aware of Rik McCoy’s involvement.

      Either way it’s not good.

      NewArrival, common sence should never be surpassed by spin. Please feel free to ask any questions.

1631. Comment by Ake | October 6th, 2009

      Hi Bo Harrison I would love to take your money off you but fortunate for you I am not a betting man. But thanks for the offer anyway.

      I was put off by the author of this blog right at the very beginning of his post where he starts out attacking eveyone who has or had anything to do with Droobli.

      “The U.S. Country Manager (Dean Mannheimmer) used to work for TNI or Tahitian Noni International. These are the same scam artists that asked you to reduce your doctor-prescribed medications and drink overpriced juice.”

      What does he know about Dean Mannheimmer? He helped to build a billion dollar company! No easy task. As for the product Tahitian Noni Juice I drink it everyday and if it wasn’t for this product doctors had me condemned as never being able to work again EVER! I spent thousnds of dollars to prove doctors and specialists all wrong which I did so good fortune for you aye bo Harrison.

      This is why I say you clowns who go about talking garbage about things you know nothing about are a circus act. Who are the real scammers?

      Granted Bobby Jensen may have been involved in companies that failed but what are the facts surrounding these events? Does this make Droobli a failure before it gets up and going.

      Everyone makes mistakes are you so perfect beavis and bo harrison. Do you guys have a halo around your head that makes you an authority on the subject?

      No, I didn’t think so. I think this whole post is a scam! You lost me at the beginning when I was trying to find some good research content but only to find that the views of the author and his circus clowns are not very objective. You will identify this circus act by the patches they wear over their one eye.

1632. Comment by Soft Shoe Shuffle | October 6th, 2009

      MLM is over. Whoever says it’s the business boom of the new Millenium is crazy. Because of all the MLM businesses that have been around for the last 30 years, people are sick of MLMs. As soon as you mention Amway, Droobli, ACN, Xango, etc, people’s eyes glass over and they start to run.

      People are sick of being used by family or friends for MLMs. The era of MLMs is over. That horrible period of time broke up families and caused people to be social outcasts. There are few extremely vulnerable anti-social people who may still want to join an MLM scam like Droobli. But there aren’t many.

      Multi-level marketing is over. If something is good it’s sold in a real store. If something is good you don’t need church members manipulating other church members or family members exploiting other family members.

      Everytime another MLM or Pyramid or Ponzi scheme comes out it sounds weird. Droobli soundes weirder than most.

      Droobli is the great scheme of the middle man. It doesn’t make anything. It just sells things. Not a lot of money to be made there since the places to buy trhings are already well known and well-patronized.

      Droobli is dead in the water. It died in Europe. It will die in the US too.

      I’ll just shuffle along now.

1633. Comment by beavis | October 6th, 2009

      The new sheep are a mouthy bunch. . . of course, it always starts that way. . . then slowly. . . slowly. . . ever so slowly. . . the dim bulb flickers to life. . . then. . . finally. . . glorious, glorious silence (usually hits around the annual Droobli renewal time).

1634. Comment by Ake | October 7th, 2009

      Soft Shoe Shuffle-Looks like you have another class act to add to your circus parade beavis.I don’t think there is a circus tent big enough to fit you bunch in!

1635. Comment by "Diamond James" Collins | October 7th, 2009

      Ake is a moron who drinks Tahitian Noni Juice. Ake, now listen very carefully. I’m going to tell you what’s wrong with the fact that you think Tahitian Noni juice is a miracle drink and you buy it from a MLM scheme.

      Think of all the drugs and medicines which heal people and which are dispensed through hospitals etc. They keep people alive. Now imagine those same drugs and medicines only available through a MLM scheme. Do you understand what I’m saying?

      Ake I think everyone else understands what I’m getting at. If Tahitian Noni juice or Xango or whatever miracle drug you’re selling is any good, it would be made available to millions of buyers in supermarkets all over the world. But the marketer of Noni apparently doesn’t want hundreds of millions of dollars. Is that what you’re telling us?

      We know the real reason companies like Xango, Tahitian Noni Juice and Droobli fly under the radar. Any inspection of the companies and/or products would show how fraudulent they are.

      You may have been healed by Tahitian Noni Jucie in your own mind but rational scientific testing reveals it to be a juice with no curative powers. By all means keep drinking it if it gets you higher on the pyramid.

1636. Comment by Caed Taylor | October 7th, 2009

      Does anyone remember Jason Switzer? He made the following claims back in August. (My comments will follow in brackets)

      November 2009, GroobLi will become the worlds first Online Shopping Global Platform (eBay & Amazon has not done this)
      - each Country will have 150 basic products on the Auctions, 300 will be added to each country that has leaders

      What’s with the “leaders” crap? It’s just a silly Droobli term to get BAs to spend more so they can get “leader” status. Droobli will ‘punish’ those countries with no “leaders” by not allowing them to buy a full range of products! ) (Droobli people are just idiots)

      September 2009, GroobLi will be opening an actual office in Miami (didn’t happen)

      September 2009, GroobLi will launch in Australia & New Zealand
      (didn’t happen)

      1) The Global platform will allow a customer in Japan to bid/check the price on the same item on auction as a customer in California. (for 80 cents)

      2) Obviosuly, prices of products on Auction will go down much much faster since ALL customers worldwide will be using the same shopping site. (with so few customers this isn’t happening)

      3) In the USA today we have over 420,000 customer and about 3 million customers in Europe. (with a much higher % of customers in Europe shopping on the site on a weekly basis). If the transition was done today, our customers would be bidding against almost 3.5 million more active customers instead of just the current U.S. customer base.

      (and yet less than 50 auctions a day are completed. There are about 10 Droobli customers. The rest are confused BAs wondering what to do with their credits)

      4) The amount of products on the Unique bid and Express auction in the U.S. will go up dramtically since the Global consumer base calls for it. As well we will see an increase of more high ticket items added to the site (more cars etc….)

      (hasn’t happened)

      2) After each training, there is a Test that must be passed to move on to the next level

      (can you imagine ebay doing this kind of kiddie stuff? Droobli is just stupid)

      -this will help ensure ALL BA’s are being trained properly
      3) A worksheet is provided to make sure each Business Associate is reaching out to their entire Network of friends, family member, co-workers etc….

      (hopefully you don’t know any Droobli people who will try to destroy family outings with their silly talk about “make money while you sleep”)

      1) There will be a phone line the BA’s, Partners and customers can call in to instead of only being able to use the Support Ticketing system

      (There will be a phone!!! Hold the front page of the LA Times!!!!)

      In order to raise Public awareness for GroobLi throughout the world, GroobLi will go Public in the next 18 months. Going Public is the best marketing/advertising available

      (what about TV advertising?)

      Thanks for nothing Jason Switzer. Droobli is just a stupid scam for stupid people.

1637. Comment by Gary | October 7th, 2009

      The best thing about Droobli so far is this forum!! I’m totally addicted, so funny!! Mind you I’m kinda glad I didn’t invest 3K into it as I’ve seen no proof of anyone making any real money apart from signing people up. Until the reverse auction is up and running (by the way has already been put off a month in Australia) Droobli is effectively a pyramid scheme.. For the sake of the innocent parting with their hard earned I hope it does work but I wouldn’t hold your breath..

1638. Comment by Ake | October 7th, 2009

      Diamond James-Caed Taylor- Hey beavis! Two more for your clown act! You guys are all obviously so sexually starved your brains don’t function properly.

      From what I,m reading so far you guys are calling Donald Trump, Paul Zane Pilser, Robert kiyosaki, Robert Allen and I can name many more, morons?

      Take your frustrations somewhere where you clowns can all hold hands and cry together.

      Diamond James Collins who said I push the juice onto anyone for profit or the like? I’m a happy consumer. Who stated claims like you are suggesting. It’s all in your head, like I said earlier frustration does some funny things to bloke you know. Your wife wont do it cos you have a big mouth. Give beavis a call i’m sure he will oblige.

      I’ll repaet again if anyone takes these guys for real call beavis so you can join the clown parade.

1639. Comment by beavis | October 7th, 2009

      It appears “Ake” is both a Droobli BA and a Tahitian Noni Juice believer. I’m afraid this places a burden on us, especially eaglescout to accommodate his special needs. Under Federal law we have to provide him with a tutor, give him extra time to complete his postings and regularly meet with his parents regarding home work assignments.

1640. Comment by Ake | October 7th, 2009

      This is for sort shoe shuffle and the rest of beavis’s clown parade-read it and weep girls!

      Network Marketing is a $100 Billion Industry and is currently being taught at Harvard and Stanford Business Schools and in numerous other leading universities around the world.

      – “From 2006-2016 there will be 10 million new millionaires in the US alone, more than double the last decade….. Many will be from the Direct Sales Industry!”-Paul Zane Pilzer

      -”Network Marketing, the industry for people who want to change their lives-If I lost everything and had to start again I would find myself a great network marketing company and get to work.”-Donald Trump

      -”The Best Investment I ever made!”-Warren Buffet-Billionair Investor and the richest person in the world! Warren owns 51 businesses today, 3 of which are Network Marketing Companies!

      -”Network marketing is the perfect business for the average person to create wealth. If you really want to learn how to be rich, you must begin to know and understand the power found in networks. The richest people in the world build networks”-Robert Kiyosaki

      -”Yourindustry promotes values all around the globe and give people the chance to make the most of their lives.”-Bill Clinton

      Well now ladies in the clown parade, that’s what I call real content. Not coming on here and bagging everyone out and calling anyone who has the same ideas and values as the gentlemen quoted above morons, idiots and any other term you have all chosen to make up.

      I wonder who the REAL morons are? hmmm….not hard to work out is it!

1641. Comment by Soft Shoe Shuffle | October 7th, 2009

      Love the intelligent comments Ake. You’ve don’t it this time. You’ve stumped all of us with comments like

      “From 2006-2016 there will be 10 million new millionaires in the US alone, more than double the last decade….. Many will be from the Direct Sales Industry!”-Paul Zane Pilzer

      Now read that statement again. The figure 10 million millionaires jumps right out. How disappointing the following words “many of them will be from the direct sales industry”.

      How many is “many”? 100? 1000? 2000?

      MLM converts truly are drawn from the stupid end of the human race. Usually uneducated, business failures – people with nothing to lose – get drawn to Droobli and other scams.

      Oh well. Life goes on. Another sucker for Droobli is born every couple of months.

1642. Comment by Dancing Queen | October 7th, 2009

      Hey ’soft shoe’ all of Ake’s qoutes are flawed. And he doesn’t even know it. His critical thinking skills weren’t refined because of a poor education.

      Perhaps he can keep networking. Networking (by MLM people) is also known as ‘the fastest way to clear a room’.
      People don’t want to be bothered by others spouting about quick riches and making money while you sleep.

      I would make all MLM illegal because of the damage it causes churches and families. The social upheaval that goes with it. The shattered dreams. The deception.

      How to turn a whole church into a group of liars! Get them involved in MLM. Pastors, you don’t want MLM people in your congregation. They cause division.

      Let’s face it. The majority of people “hate” MLM.

1643. Comment by beavis | October 7th, 2009

      Here comes the short bus, Ake; time for you to leave.

1644. Comment by Ake | October 7th, 2009

      Hey soft shoe shuffle- It’s great that you re attcaking me but remember dumbo I never said these things. These are direct quotes from intelligent men who you call-”drawn from the stupid end of the human race.”
      If these guys are from the so called end you dreamt up in your tiny brain, then there is no hope for you.

      Hi Dancing Queen looks like I fished out another clown in the old beavis circus parade.
      You guys are a laugh you know that don’t you. You don’t even know that by posting this site it is has the opposite effect of what you have set out to achieve. opps oh well… It’s good for a laugh and that is about all.
      Dancing queen is probably one of those catholic priests that used mlm as a screen while he had other agendas like violating young boys! And blames MLM!
      Sorry beavis but I’m not ready to hop on the short bus I enjoy fishing -look what I caught! I have lots of bait for you suckers yet!. Who is the moron again?

1645. Comment by beavis | October 7th, 2009

      you are.

1646. Comment by A. Davidson | October 8th, 2009

      Ake is scaring us. He sounds like a meth addict. MLM schemes, Pyramid schemes and Ponzi schemes are hated by any normal person. No one wants to be bothered by family, relatives, friends, church friends, etc to buy something on the Droobli global shopping porthole. We, the people of planet Earth, don’t want you Droobli pimps to stop us and harangue us with lies and crap about the “excitement” of something called “a reverse auction”. We don’t care! Can you understand it? Just leave people alone!!! We hate Droobli and the long-winded explanations and the corny Droobli terminology. It’s all crap. Droobli is crap. Leave us alone!!!

1647. Comment by blakin | October 8th, 2009

      Oooo, boo who! go and have a cry to mummy. You sound so Pathetic. Like a little kid “we don’t care”, “we hate D…” grow up and get a life Bozo! D. is much more than “a reverse auction”…but I wouldn’t expect you to understand that, you obviously have the mindset of a 5 year old.

1648. Comment by ? | October 8th, 2009

      My real name doesn’t matter. Call me “Doctor X” if you will. I must tell you about my work in the European sector of Droobli. I can now tell you the purpose of Droobli. Droobli was designed solely for the purpose of getting ebay to buy out Droobli.

      We were trying to generate early promise then sell out to ebay within 3 years. It hasn’t worked like that. We had to try America, but it’s still not working strong enough yet. One day all you Droobli people will be rich. We will convince ebay that we are a serious threat. Ebay will buy us out and then kill Droobli off. But if you have shares you will be rich.

      Get into Droobli even if it’s only for the big sell off to Ebay. I urge you. You will make money. Forget the shopping stuff or the auctions. Get Droobli shares. If you are a BA with no shares you will get nothing. You must buy shares. I’ve seen emails.

      Don’t spread this to anyone else or you will drive up the price of the shares when they are next issued. Then watch ebay come running with the big billion dollar deal.

1649. Comment by The Real Doctor X | October 8th, 2009

      Forget the nonsense about ebay buying out Droobli to stop the competition. I don’t want a frenzy driving up Droobli share prices. We don’t need another frenzy. Everyone just stop and take a step back. Keep going with Droobli. Keep paying your annual renewals. You will be rich beyond your wildest dream. ?Maybe it will happen next year. Maybe in 2011. Or by 2015. You must hang in there and keep buying credits and keep giving them to your contacts. Keep throwing away your credits in the auctions. We need to look big. We need more people. Buy more credits using false names. Go to graveyards and get names off of tombstones. Build a network like this. Yes, you can.

1650. Comment by Ake | October 8th, 2009

      Hahahaha! Hi there A. Davidson. I see beavis has plenty of clowns in his circus act to back up! Hey beavis-sounds like this one is ready for that bus you talked about earlier. You still holding the ticket?

      Oh man life is good. I just hooked another clown who wants to express all his inadequacies inside a small speck on the internet where noboby cares.

      “We, the peolpe of planet earth…” let me rephrase this for you A.Davidson, so it is more applicable to this blog- “We, the one eyed clowns of this circus act!”

      You represent nobody, you give no sustance to what you say and provide no real content to add value to peoples decision on what you are trying to accomplish. Where did you find these clowns beavis? Off a gay porn site? I thought so A. Davidson sounds like you were still gagging as you wrote the post. Porthole…….?……..hahaha! I’m pretty sure you meant portal but I forgive you, you had your mouth FULL!

      2 fish in one day beavis not a bad day out. Fighing is good I wonder if I will snag a big one tommorrow?

1651. Comment by beavis | October 8th, 2009

      Ake,

      “It gives me a headache just trying to think down to your level.” Douglas Adams

1652. Comment by Former CIA Operative | October 8th, 2009

      We must stop more of the truth about Droobli’s plans getting out. Droobli is not a fake company designed just so Ebay would buy them out and Bobby Jensen would make lots of money.

1653. Comment by A. Davidson | October 8th, 2009

      Dear Ake,

      The use of the word “porthole” was intentional. It was meant to highlight that despite Droobli’s grand claims about itself it remains a ‘two bit’ company.

      My local Best Buy store sells more than the whole of global Droobli. My local McDonald’s gives more to charity than the whole of global Droobli.

      Those are facts. And they show that Droobli is not creating “cash streams” and there is no “viral marketing” and Droobli will collapse. Ebay is not interested in buy it out.

      Ake is typical of Drooblidiots. Not very clever. Unable to interpret subtext. No critical thinking skills. Boring as bat crap.

1654. Comment by Only Facts | October 8th, 2009

      Ake.

      Wow where do I start? Ok, Ake sounds a little to similar to good old Gene with his ramblings. And changes from Parrots to Circus nearly had me fooled. However all that aside, lets pretend that he is someone new. You have not brought a single thing new in regard to Droobli to the table. No facts, not even suggestions so it’s a bit hard to take you seriously.

      Your revelations in regard to the post on the success of network marketing is as new as the Droobli innovative auction platform. It is, has been and always will be successful for those who run the business. It’s as simple as this;

      You are a member of a network marketing organisation. You sell $100.00 worth of product a month. Granted not a lot of money, and the chances are a large proportion of that you bought yourself, however, the organisation has 1000 people doing the same thing. All of a sudden we hit the $100,000.00 a month mark. Of course it’s a success. I nearly forgot, those 1000 people had to pay, on average $1000 to join. The company, without selling a single tangible product, has turned over $1,000,000.00. Other thing I forgot. Within your $1000 membership, $100 of that is the yearly fee and rest is for credits that you need to use to see the product, and you are urged to give 10 free credits away to people that wish to look at whats going on. Even though your annual fee is only $100, when you credits run out you will need to buy more, lets say $500 worth. The company receives more turn over of $500,000.00 for the new credits and another $100,000.00 from the annual fee.

      So over 2 years;

      You have turned over…………………..$2400.00

      On 20% commission you have made…………$480.00

      The company has turned over…………….$3,100,000.00

      In short MLM good for company.

      Ordinary for participant.

      The reason I brought this up was because you tried to use quotes from these people to justify Droobli. Not once did these people ever mention Droobli.

      Now if you wish to discuss Droobli, please bring something to the table.

      P.S I apologise if my math is incorrect as I am working this out on the back of a coaster in the Qantas Club.

1655. Comment by Eugene | October 8th, 2009

      Sad news, folks — the Droobli wikipedia article was deleted today for “lack of notability”. (in other words, no references besides Droobli propaganda).

      What a shame (not!)

1656. Comment by Ake | October 8th, 2009

      Well put only facts. But your argument has flaws. I may elaborate more fully we will see. The reason being is that I came into this site looking for some facts and good quality content, only to be dissapointed about the fact that this place is an arena for anti-networkers to gather and abuse the crap out of anybody offering a differing opinion. What is the point?

      Beavis says he just loves to abuse and slang people and begin to attack their intelligence before they can offer something that may be of real value to readers.

      So what is the point of contributing in any argument here if all it is going to be is a who can abuse who the best?

      Beavis also points out that this site ranks #2 consistently on google search which is what finds us here. Trying to decipher fact from fiction is most parties intention, like mine. You all have made some sort of assumption that I am a Droobli rep, where does it say in any of my posts that I am? And because of your lack of good judgement I am somehow mystically condemned and don’t have the intelligence to participate.

      Yes I jumped into this blog at the defense of those who were being attacked for no good reason at all. They offered some value to readers like it or not.

      Yes I have mentioned TNI and their product but is that cause for abuse? Eagle scout starts this blog off with some hard facts or so he says! My argument was about Dean Mannheimer
      quote-”The U.S. Country Manager (Dean Mannheimmer) used to work for TNI or Tahitian Noni International. These are the same scam artists that asked you to reduce your doctor-prescribed medications and drink overpriced juice.” More SLANDER!

      TNI is by no means a fraud and their product is great! As a CONSUMER I can tell you this from experience. How can a billion dollar a year company be fraud? Diamond James Collins offers some advice -”You may have been healed by Tahitian Noni Jucie in your own mind but rational scientific testing reveals it to be a juice with no curative powers. By all means keep drinking it if it gets you higher on the pyramid.”
      Just more slander if you want to read the rest of the post # 1635 and a good example of the quality of the people here in this place.

      My quotes earlier referencing Donald Trump and co was more bait to put on the table, and the result? More abuse! It wasn’t to defend Droobli at all. If you go back and read the post it was in defense of the network marketing industry. To date no-one has disputed the fact that it is a $100 Billion Dollar industry. But I have received some abuse about it being a ligitimate way to earn an income.

      The example above from you ‘only facts’ merely points out that if you do well by earning a substantial income with a company they do extremely well! What’s wrong with that? Do you know of any business that has a brick and mortar business that does not profit from their employees? Networking is old age.

      Take you for example ‘only facts’. You say in your earlier post that you get invited to speak at business meetings- How did the people get there? Who ivited them? Who do you work for? Do they have a team just like you? Do you get paid? Of course you do and behind the scenes someone is making a killing! Sounds like network marketing to me! So your example has no real value or meaning and I haven’t even began to analyze your post yet. If I do I am setting myself up for more of the same. Take a look at post #1653 from A.Davidson.

      Well, I am getting ready to bait my hook soon. So look for my next post. Coming soon…..

1657. Comment by beavis | October 8th, 2009

      Let’s just let “Ake” flail. When I posted the quote “It gives me a headache just trying to think down to your level” by Douglas Adams, I wasn’t exaggerating; his arguments are stupid and (as usual for Drooblidiots) ignores the issues. Responding to his “points” is truly a waste of effort as his arguments are nonsensical. This fool is on a mission to lose his money to Bobby Jensen and Company. We should let him.

1658. Comment by Ake | October 8th, 2009

      I think I got a nibble….? Oh no it’s just some samll tadpole in a big sea.

      Why don’t you let only facts respond himself beavis? That way we might get some intelligent conversations beginning in this place instead of your repetitive garbage over and over.

      You know it is people like you beavis who give australians a bad name!

1659. Comment by Only Facts | October 8th, 2009

      Aka said “how did the people get there…….. Who invited them.”

      Most of the meetings are held by either the Wesley Mission or the Royal Children’s Hospital as a method of fund raising. They usually cost about $500 a seat. I also talk for a training establishment known as Sarina Russo that run certificate 4 courses in small business, for those wishing to start a small business or people wanting to improve there business skills.

      Aka said “Who do you work for”. In that respect I guess you could say the organisations above, however in reality I work for myself and have done since I left College.

      Aka said “Do they have a team just like you”? I guess they do but I can’t see the relevance. I pay my team, for want of a better word, they don’t pay me.

      Aka said ” Do you get paid”? No I do not. The best I get out of it is the occasional free lunch. I have been very fortunate in business and have as much money as I will ever need. So what is the point of acquiring more when you are trying to help people. I have interests over the country so I use the opportunity to catch up face to face with people before or after these meetings. That way the organisations don’t even need to pay my airfares.

      Aka, I have absolutely no objection to people making money, in fact I spent the majority of my time these days helping people to do it by putting my hand in my own pocket. What offends me, is when people try to do it in a deceitful way.

      Enough evidence has been brought up on this site and others, for even the most die hard pro Droobli person to question, even if it is within himself the reality of Droobli.

      Aka. Please feel free to ask me any question or bring up any point regarding Droobli, I would be happy to supply the information. Over the past several months, I have become quiet the expert.

1660. Comment by Ake | October 8th, 2009

      Is there any truth to the rumors about Droobli? ha ha ha ha ha hah ah ah hah hah hah hah hahahah haha hahhahahahhah hahha

      You can’t stop the roaring train that is Droobli. We’ll take over every major site. Bobby Jensen will make Bill Gates look poor. Than he’ll rmember his friends.

      I tell I will make $120 million with Droobli this year. Join me. I will give $4 worth of credits anytime you want.

      hah hah hah hahh hah hhah hah ha hh hhaah ah hahh hah hhahch

1661. Comment by beavis | October 8th, 2009

      Ake said:

      “You know it is people like you beavis who give australians a bad name!”

      Are you on acid? I’d ask you how you came up with “I give Australians a bad name” ( I’m neither of Australian decent nor have I ever been within 1000 miles of Australia) but I’m deathly afraid you would answer! I now know why you are in Droobli – you can carry on an inane conversation and nobody in Droobli will stop you provided it is laced with sound bites from Droobli webinars. Apparently we are not attacking your livelihood (Lord knows it’s not that), we are insulting your surrogate family. Your posts have gone from somewhat amusing to annoying to “I’d take my own life if I was locked in a jail cell with you”. Your “facts” are twisted and incomplete (nothing like a Droobli webinar for accurate fact finding) and you only answer the questions that you think you have an answer for and then you fail at that so miserably it begs the question “why, why did you bother to answer when you clearly have no clue what is even being discussed”. Another little tip – STOP THE BAD METAPHORS AND HAVE A POINT!

1662. Comment by Michael Moore | October 9th, 2009

      I’m considering doing Droobli for a documentary. Any info would be appreciated. Check my website and leave details.

      Robert Persky for Michael Moore

1663. Comment by Ake | October 9th, 2009

      Now please take note beavis and co, post#1659 by only facts is something worth sitting up for.

      Thankyou only facts I repsect your postion and your cause and think it’s great that someone here has an objective of trying to do good. I still don’t get the relevance of this authors original post about a pretty good guy named Dean Mannheimer. This is what threw me and a lot of others who are searching for an objective view when it comes to D…i.

      People don’t want to be bashed, bullied and be made fun of here or anywhere. I do agree however with some of the comments posted about the stain network marketing has left on our community and yes we are all sick and tired of being talked into something we don’t really want to do. But communities network in so many different ways and if I choose to join D…i it is at my own risk for good or bad. Does this make me some sort of complete idiot like that is suggested in this blog? I can’t take any of these guys seriously due to their nature of abuse toward innocent ordinary people.

      Lets take your line of work Mr Only facts as admirable as it is. You see a good thing come along, apply all your business sense and skills and then promote your reasoning to others for or against. This is a great example of how communities work at a different level.

      Now what is wrong with this senario.

      Lets say I am in the market to purchase a sony television, but I have a budget that doesn’t allow me to purchase right now. The television costs $1500. My neighbor on the left of me comes to me and says Harvey Norman are having a sale, check it out. So I do.I see I can get a cash back of $100. (How many of us have had this happen? Nearly everone, right?)BUT I have to purchase full retail, enter a code on the sony site on the internet photocopy receipts and the like and wait 4-6 weeks to see my $100.

      Initial Cost of TV-$1500. Saving-$100/7%approx, not to mention time consumed getting back my $100, plus 4-6 week wait. True Cost $1400

      My neighbor on the right notices a great deal on the internet and tells me I can get the same sony television that I am after for a price well within my budget. I go to the sight and find that I can get this television through a reverse auction. My neighbor tells me I have to pay 80 cents to see the current price of the TV. The first thing I notice is the starting price of $1425.My neighbor prompts me to the best price guarantee offered by this merchant. I go do some research to find that the best sony can do on the internet is $1500 and no one else can come close. So I am already close to my budget before I pay a thing. I decide to pay 80 cents for a look at the current price on the auction and find the TV is now selling for $1250. That’s a $250 saving and it has cost me 80 cents. My neighbour tells me I can buy that TV right now if I want or I can wait for a period, come back and see what the new current price is. I buy it because I can save $150 more than the Harvey Norman deal and it only cost me 80 cents. I am now happy with my brand new Sony television and I stayed within my budget.

      Now Mr Only Facts what makes this scenario any different to what you do? You offer people advice and they pay, right. Maybe not to you directly but they pay for the advice you give to someone. You mention you may get a free lunch but you don’t keep your spot in the Quantas club on a free lunch, if so please share how we can achieve this.

      This is a real live example of what is happening and people are happy. If someone is behind the scenes making money, who cares! In the organizations mentioned above someone is collecting the funds, paying handsome fees to participants and administration. Nothing runs on a free lunch contrary to your claims.

      Some of the evidence here in this site can only be taken with a grain of salt as this blog is stained with rude remarks and un-called for abuse.

1664. Comment by Gene | October 9th, 2009

      Hey OF how can you be a speaker with your ramblings. Here we go again the pot calling the kettle black. Telling people I ramble. Look at my posts people. Yeah you got my attention OF and that is exactly what you wanted but this just gives me another chance to show you need to understand if everyone on this blog just read my posts they’d not need to read any others and get a pretty good idea of what we have here with the company. Oh and be sure to get your free credits at my site and start your business in a real tangible way either as an associate or a customer. Oh yes and they do deliver. Have fun shopping.

1665. Comment by beavis | October 9th, 2009

      Gene said:

      “Telling people I ramble.”

      Gene doesn’t always ramble. Here is a perfect example of an incomplete sentence showing that he truly doesn’t ramble on and on and on. . . and on.

      Gene further said:

      “Yeah you got my attention OF and that is exactly what you wanted but this just gives me another chance to show you need to understand”

      No, trust me he didn’t want your attention. . . or comments. Engaging in a conversation with you is like like being mugged with a blunt (read that as “dull” ) instrument. It is painful in ways you can’t comprehend, Gene. I think you and Ake were twins separated at birth.

1666. Comment by Shaun "Due Diligence" Premo | October 9th, 2009

      Dear Ake,

      Loved the story about the TV. You checked the price for 80 cents and found it was $250 off. If Droobli has 3 million customers as is often claimed then you have virtually no chance of buying the item.

      Do you realize how many people had to pay 80 cents to get the $250 off? 1000. So it’s a 1 in a thousand deal at best. And do you know how much those Droobli customers paid to get it down $250? $800. Good people had to lose $800 so you could get $250 off a TV. If you can live with that you have no conscience. I’d rather pay full price then to know it cost other people to give me a discount.

      But Droobli people have no conscience. Enjoy your discounted TV. But remember this – the same people you try to attract to Droobli with promises of discount goods are the same ones you take joy in ripping off so you get your discounted item.

      That is the reason Droobli won’t work. To normal, principled people Droobli stinks. You have no moral values. Enjoy ripping people off. They’re only drooblidiots after all.

      This is part of you “due diligence” if you’re contemplating joining Droobli. Ask yourself if you have a conscience. If the answer is “no” then join Droobli.

1667. Comment by Ake | October 10th, 2009

      Dear Shaun

      Yes you could be right in the fact that if 3 million customers claimed then the result would be no chance. But if someone pays 80 cents for a good deal, no-one misses out. As soon as my TV was secured another one was up on auction. I think you may be over analyzing the process and making assumptions without doing due dilligence by experiencing a pretty good deal and more research yourself.

      Ordinaty people don’t think like you or some of the other negative commenting people here. Peolpe live to enjoy life, isn’t that the aim? If someone enjoys paying 80cents to save $250 that is great and makes them happy. I don’t know anybody that is sad in the depths of hell for saving some money!

      My example was for only facts, pointing out that his buiness model is no different to any other business including D…i!
      Everyone pays somewhere, they have to! That is just business. If every successful business man got all conscientious about the fact they they are making money out of people, what would be the point in going into business? Doesn’t make sense does it.

      I agree that if people are paying extreme amounts in the auctions and not securing the item they want, they should stop and re-think. A good strategy will ensure you save your hard earned money and not give it away stupidly. This is just common sense.

      Yes in my example of the tv good people DID in fact pay $800 in total for me to be a happy customer. What you fail to realise is that every single one of those 1000 people who paid 80 cents were presented with the same opportunity as me. I happened to like the current price so chose to buy it. There is no ripp off. You make a decision either to but the item or you don’y. no one is forced to do anything. No one is forced to go to the auction and bid. I certainly wasn’t forced. I was presented with 2 options and the latter one won. Simple and plain. That’s what I liked about the whole experience, very simple and plain. I spent more money in fuel travelling to Harvey Norman and back than I did using my 80 cents. So the D…i auction won for me. Simple, that’s what people like and enjoy. Simplicity, no one really cares who makes the money. EVERYBODY knows that as consumers, someone is making money off every dime we spend! Nobody really cares who or how, just what is in it for them. And if it is good opportunity to buy something at a 10, 20, 50% discount, then the more the merrier. That’s how the world goes round.

1668. Comment by Shaun "Due Diligence" Premo | October 10th, 2009

      Mr Ake – Once more you miss so many points it’s not funny. You lack critical thinking skills. You just can’t see it. You have very little chance of winning those reverse auctions so you will be constantly losing 80 cents a time. You must have spent hundreds or thousands of dollars for nothing.

      You never addressed the conscience issue. You called it “conscientious” which means hard-working. Are you just the typical uneducated drooblidiot with few chances of employment? You never addressed the basic issue. If you’re happy to get things at low prices because other people lost their money checking prices then you’re an amoral person. It’s not name-calling. It’s the truth.

      Droobli can’t work. Can’t you see that?

      Honestly Ake. Please tell us how much you’ve spent with Droobli. The start up fee, the renewal, every time you checked a price, etc. Then tell us how much money you’ve made.

      I bet you haven’t made any money. Just be honest and tell us.

1669. Comment by justabigjoke | October 10th, 2009

      Well Shaun, I can anser how much I have made and spent,

      Bought gold @ 3170usd,

      Firt month made 1745 usd

      Been in 5 months, I am now on 4 figs a mth no probs, Got a big team growing in USA, NZ, OZ, Europe.

      How much have I spent on the auctions? about 15 GroobLi credits so far, Given away about 300.. Sold as many if not more, Had people buy off my shopping mall.. very happy. Shit I even had a guy buy a Dryer from Best Buy thru my site!!.

      Do I care what you say or think?.

      Not one eye ota or in my language (Flying Fuck).

      Yes..proud as hell to be a GroobLi Idiot. Heck I even get people calling me to join GroobLi.

1670. Comment by Ake | October 10th, 2009

      Well shaun so my grammar and spelling isn’t up to shakespere’s standard. Welcome to the real world. We make up 99% of the population, the rest of you think you are experts because you have a sharp tongue, I think the indians called it a forked tongue!
      You just don’t get it do you. Me, my neighbor, the world just don’t care. We don’t go and analyse the toilet before we go and shit in it, we just shit!

      You jump in on my post change the issue that I am trying to address with someone else, and can’t even work out what I am taliking about. I’m looking for intelligent conversations, which I was getting previous to now.

      Beavis, where are you? Your more intelligent than this guy. Please give him his bus tiket before the tune starts back with the fishing pole! It’s becomming a joke again, time for the slaning matches. How anyone can take this place seriously, I have no idea?

1671. Comment by Shaun "Due Diligence" Premo | October 10th, 2009

      Ake – you aren’t very educated are you. In your last post (1670) you spelt these words incorrectly – Shakespeare, Native Americans, talking, you’re, ticket, becoming and slanging.

      These aren’t difficult words Ake. I put it to you that you’re the typical Droobli gutter trash that the company attracts – people with little education who have failed in various jobs and now have nothing to lose. So you go for these ridiculous schemes like Droobli. Educated people like myself see through these schemes. Ake, you don’t have the critical thinking skills of the rest of us. Let us do your due diligence for you.

      We have and we will tell you to get out of Droobli. You can’t see it because of your poor education level. We can. Trust us and get out of Droobli. You’ll thank us later on.

      I’m going to start an education fund for you because I believe in you. You shouldn’t be hampered by your poor education and therefore poor communication.

      I’m going to give you something Droobli never will – a real hand up in life.

1672. Comment by Shaun "Due Diligence" Premo | October 10th, 2009

      Dear “justabigjoke”,

      I’ve had a look at your Post 1669 and I must admit you’re a lot like Ake. You obviously haven’t much of an education or you would have been able to make a better job of lying. You post is full of lies. Perhaps you did buy gold at $3170. Did you really want it?
      Now for your lies. You said in the first month you made $1745. Then you said you have been 5 months and that your business is growing. You mentioned vaguely that you have a “big team growing in USA, NZ, Oz and Europe”. Then, unfortunately, you tripped yourself up by claiming you are “now on 4 figures a month no probs”. That means you make around $1000 a month. But you said you made $1745 in your first month and that your business is growing with global teams building. Do you see how you tripped yourself up?

      That was pretty transparent, wasn’t it? Next time try a little harder with your lying. That wasn’t good, even for an uneducated drooblidiot.

      I even like your boast that you’d given away 300 eighty cent credits in 5 months. Is that really a big deal? Didn’t you get hundreds when you handed over $3000 to droobli? (You have to pay that amount again in just over 6 months!) Was $240 worth of credits really such a big deal? Makes me think that it was for you and therefore points to the fact that you’re probably not making anything with Droobli. I doubt that you have even covered your initial outlay. That is the experience of most “BAs”. They aren’t making enough. (But they love calling themselves “business associates”. Sounds like a big shot with a big desk.)

      One last question, did you really think that the relatively simple word “iota” was spelt “eye ota”??? You drooblidiots just reveal so much about yourselves every post.

      Those considering joining Droobli – do your diligence! In the words of Michael Jackson “this is it!”

1673. Comment by Gary | October 10th, 2009

      Ake,

      Wow, I didn’t know they had Harvey Norman outside Australia!?

1674. Comment by Bob | October 10th, 2009

      Shaun,
      Since everyone’s off topic anyway and I have only one second to post. Ake’s grammar and spelling skills are as relevant as you spelling “spelled” wrong:

      Here’s what you wrote:

      “Ake – you aren’t very educated are you. In your last post (1670) you spelt these words incorrectly – Shakespeare, Native Americans, talking, you’re, ticket, becoming and slanging.”

      Spelt is a form of wheat…now lets talk the GroobLi business model.

1675. Comment by Shaun "Due Diligence" Premo | October 10th, 2009

      Check your dictionary Bob. Both forms are acceptable.

1676. Comment by PaulPaul | October 10th, 2009

      I agree with Bob. Let’s talk about the so-called crappy Droobli “business” model. It doesn’t work. It’s not working. And it will never work. It collapsed in Europe. The US Droobli is running out of steam despite all the artificial sales and bids generated by Business Associates. It hasn’t done anything in Australia.

      Why not sell cancer-killing juices or supplements? Just as “pie in the sky” as Droobli. Thanks Bob for getting us on track again.

1677. Comment by justabigjoke | October 10th, 2009

      Naw mate, Making alot more than 1K a mth..I,m not here to try and convince anyone or prove to anyone either how much I make.

      That,s my business not yours. Never will be Bro. I am just telling you for me and alot of other BA,s GroobLi is working.

1678. Comment by Gene | October 10th, 2009

      Oh beav please. Your rable is worse than OF’s. I mean you are just incomplete

1679. Comment by PaulPaul | October 10th, 2009

      Droobli is over. It didn’t work. It was a bad idea. I’m glad only a few people here in the US ever got involved with it.

1680. Comment by Errol Abrams | October 10th, 2009

      You’re wrong Paul X2. I went to a seminar here in L.A. last night. I tried to mace the lead speaker but two security guards grabbed me. I managed to get away. There were at least 25 people there.

1681. Comment by David Shore | October 10th, 2009

      Is justabigjoke a black Australian? He says “mate” but then uses “bro”. He’s very confused in life and a liar. Why can’t you admit that you’ve lost money in Droobli?

      I know you keep telling yourself the Droobli spin – “One day droobli’s gonna be nig my boy”. Don’t believe them. “Justabigjoke” would you pay 80 cents to check the price of things? My brother-in-law owns a store and he’ll let you read the price tags for 80 cents each. He’ll even let you walk around the store reading all the price tags for $1000. That’s better than Droobli!

1682. Comment by David Shore | October 10th, 2009

      Is justabigjoke a black Australian? He says “mate” but then uses “bro”. He’s very confused in life and a liar. Why can’t you admit that you’ve lost money in Droobli?

      I know you keep telling yourself the Droobli spin – “One day droobli’s gonna be big my boy”. Don’t believe them. “Justabigjoke” would you pay 80 cents to check the price of things? My brother-in-law owns a store and he’ll let you read the price tags for 80 cents each. He’ll even let you walk around the store reading all the price tags for $1000. That’s better than Droobli!

1683. Comment by Gene | October 10th, 2009

      David you keep repeating yourself, bro.

1684. Comment by beavis | October 10th, 2009

      Oh, God, the inmates are running the asylum. I take not even a full day off and the posts are all off topic or simple and redundant. So, to get things back on task, “why are the auction results fake; like products worth hundreds being bid down to $2 before a taker shows up”. Let’s get back to asking the Drooblidiot sheep the questions they cannot answer; the questions that if they were truthfully answered would destroy their perception of Droobli. In fact, I think we should focus on why no one took these products until they reached such a low level as, barring some amazing revelation, this proves that Droobli practices fraud and deceipt. Come on sheep, bleat out an answer. I dare you.

1685. Comment by Nikos | October 11th, 2009

      BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

      It’s funny you should talk about the asylum, as far as I can tell, this is one! A circular argument over a tiny nothing, with shit being flung everywhere.

      It’s almost like being in Arkansas.

1686. Comment by beavis | October 11th, 2009

      and your point

1687. Comment by Gene | October 11th, 2009

      Beav, so you say let’s get things back to trash?
      Oh and by the way, End date: 10.11.2009 @ 02:22

      Value: $500.00 You were awarded: $469.75
      So I made some money on the transaction beav.
      I like the idea of buying Mastercard debit cards for less than they’re worth. So you see beav I can still spend the card for $500.00. I spent one credit. Get it?

1688. Comment by NewArrival | October 11th, 2009

      Done doing my research about Droobli. As previously stated I look forward forward to the opening of the “Droobli books” in feb. after the stock introduction. In the meantime – research can lead to the truth with a just another angle.

      The Spinfactor – another complex scam…

      “Occasionally, we get questions from people who read negative comments posted on a couple of Internet sites. These sites allegedly report “scams”, but their real business is delivering advertising to people who visit their site. Their strategy is to post defamatory comments that create controversy and elicit responses (thus driving traffic to the site and boosting ad revenue). The comments they post are consistently inaccurate, irrelevant, out of context, and/or completely fabricated. If you read through all of their posts, they subsequently retract most of their claims (but they rarely remove the original comments, because inflammatory comments drive more traffic than retractions).

      So, to paraphrase Mark Twain, the problem is not what people know; the problem is what they know that “just ain’t so.” As Business Associates, most of you already have enough facts and first hand experience with GroobLi to discredit the postings on these sites as things that “just ain’t so.” But for those of you who are new, and for those who are seriously considering the opportunity, here are some facts that should help. First, you need to understand GroobLi’s business model, because without that understanding, it will be difficult to evaluate the comments in context.

      The Business Model

      Most people look at droobli.com and think it’s an auction site, in business to sell auction items to customers. This is not really the case. GroobLi’s auctions are a strategic “means to an end”, and only a small part of the revenue model. GroobLi.com is an early stage shopping portal that aggregates shoppers on its website, and then sells those shoppers to major search engines and online merchants for click-through fees and revenue-share fees. Aggregating and selling online shoppers is an established, multi-billion-dollar industry, led by companies like Google, Amazon and eBay. GroobLi is already a player in this industry with its largest customer for ecommerce services being Kelkoo, which is the Yahoo!-owned search engine in Europe. GroobLi charges Kelkoo whenever GroobLi shoppers click through to Kelkoo or purchase products from Kelkoo affiliated merchants.

      The most successful shopping portals have “hooks” to draw traffic to their site. Google’s hook is search; Amazon’s has always been books; eBay’s is auctions. GroobLi’s hook is reverse auctions and shopping games (entertainment shopping). GroobLi uses reverse auctions and games to drive traffic to droobli.com. In an eBay auction, the seller is charged the auction fee. In a GroobLi auction, the bidder is charged the fee with each bid, in the form of a GroobLi “credit” that costs 80¢. This auction fee covers GroobLi’s cost of acquiring the customer and running the auctions and games, and it also covers the cost of reducing the auction price of the product by 25¢ with each bid, which makes the auctions exciting and drives traffic. In exchange for the 80¢ fee, the customer gets access to discounted prices at droobli.com (in the same way that a Costco member gets access to discounted prices at Costco stores in exchange for the membership fee). The GroobLi customer also gets “entertainment” value in watching the price drop, which is critical to the viral growth of the customer base.

      GroobLi’s strategic focus is on expanding its customer base, because the value of any shopping portal business is directly related to the size of its customer base. GroobLi uses a traditional network marketing distribution model to launch its initial customer base in new markets, both because GroobLi’s founder has had successful experience in network marketing, and because a network model can create large, loyal, initial customer bases faster and cheaper than advertising-based models. What GroobLi gets with its network marketing model is initial customers fast and cheap (without having to raise millions of dollars for each new market launch); what GroobLi gives up is a cut of its revenue stream, paid out in commissions to its Business Associates for the life of their customers.

      GroobLi’s Business Associates are paid commission to create new customer bases and to sponsor new Business Associates (who, in turn, create more new customer bases). Commissions are paid to Associates whenever their registered customers buy credits to participate in droobli.com auctions or whenever their customers generate click-through or revenue-share fees by clicking through to GroobLi’s search engine partner. In order to create a new customer base, Business Associates buy GroobLi credits in bulk (called “Product Packages”), and then give away the credits to prospective customers to get them to visit the site and try out the auctions. When a new Business Associate buys a Product Package, commission is paid to the recruiting Business Associate, just as if a customer had bought the credits (and that is how Business Associates earn commission from recruiting new Business Associates).

      Here are the negative comments that are posted on the Internet (in italics), followed by the facts, along with some answers to frequently asked questions:

      1. “GroobLi is a de facto pyramid scheme because . . . 97% of its revenue comes from [the sale of Product Packages].” Actually, the percentage of revenue coming from Product Packages is probably higher than that in the U.S. right now; but that just makes it a product launch strategy, not a pyramid scheme. The majority of revenue in any new GroobLi market will always come from the sale of Product Packages until the Business Associates have created a base of customers who generate ecommerce revenue (click-throughs, revenue-shares, and credit sales). When that happens, it will signal the end of the launch period for that market and the beginning of the early stage growth period. There is nothing about selling credits to Business Associates to launch new markets that constitutes a pyramid.
      2. “If [my] updated estimates are correct, GroobLi has made between $8,500 and $12,000 on the 3 games in 1 month . . . How can GroobLi sustain itself?” It can’t sustain itself on auction revenue, and no one has ever claimed that it would. The objective of GroobLi’s auction unit is not to sell product. It is instead to drive traffic to the portal, while selling as many credits as possible (and ironically, while selling as few items as possible). GroobLi is a shopping portal, not an auction house. Its success is measured by the number of shoppers it aggregates and sells. The amount of auction revenue generated is irrelevant and has no bearing on GroobLi’s success or sustainability.
      3. “GroobLi is a pyramid scheme because it sells nothing of value”. Not true, and Yahoo! and its affiliated merchants who pay GroobLi each month for its click-through shoppers agree (along with all of the registered GroobLi customers who buy credits each month and participate in the auctions). There is no question that businesses and customers alike find GroobLi’s products and services valuable and are willing to pay for them month after month. This false comment is nothing more than a “cry pyramid” attempt to drive traffic, and it comes with zero substantiation (because there is none).
      4. “GroobLi is a Ponzi scheme because it uses new investor dollars to pay returns to earlier investors”. Can’t be true. GroobLi does not sell licenses, or investments or securities of any type, and it does not offer “returns” of any sort. It only sells products and services of value, and pays commission to its Business Associates on what is sold. By definition, therefore, it cannot be a Ponzi scheme.
      5. “GroobLi’s founder, Mike Jensen, has bankrupted four companies”. Not true, and the information posted to allegedly “substantiate” this claim is taken completely out of context. Early in his career, Mike Jensen was a restaurant entrepreneur who co-founded several companies in Denmark. Long after he sold his interest and resigned from management, the subsequent owners and management teams of three of those companies bankrupted them (which is not at all uncommon in the restaurant industry). Although the Danish public records will always show Mr. Jensen linked to those companies as a founder (which is the out-of-context information prominently posted by one site), Mr. Jensen had no involvement in the subsequent management or bankruptcy of those companies. It is true that GroobLi’s original corporate entity, GroobLi Danmark ApS, was voluntarily liquidated and dissolved when the company acquired a German company and moved its headquarters from Denmark to Germany. Here again, the information posted is presented out-of-context of being an orderly and proper wind up of a corporate entity that was no longer being used. A later post on the same site (by someone not affiliated with the site) provides a list of dates and events that corroborates everything stated here. The site acknowledges the new information and does not dispute its veracity, but continues to leave the out-of-context information displayed as the lead items under the heading of “GroobLi Fact Repository” (so that it will continue to create controversy and drive traffic, which makes them money).
      6. “GroobLi isn’t even registered in the United States”. Incorrect. A simple search reveals that GroobLi.com is a registered LLC in the state of Delaware, and GroobLi’s U.S. distribution warehouse is located in Phoenix, AZ. The site that posted this ridiculous claim subsequently retracted it.
      7. “GroobLi doesn’t even register when you compare traffic analysis”. That’s true, but the claim is made out-of-context because the analysis comes from public web metrics companies (like Google or Alexa) who don’t measure traffic that comes through “personal home pages”. Most GroobLi customers visit droobli.com via a Business Associate’s individual website link (i.e., droobli.com/xxxxxxx). By their own admission, most web metrics companies do not count what they classify as “personal home pages”, which are treated separately if they can be automatically identified as such from the URLs in question, which is the case with any Business Associate’s droobli.com/xxxxxxx link.
      8. “GroobLi is a gambling business.” Not true, and the U.S. States’ Attorney offices seem to agree. None have elected to take any action or even object to GroobLi’s auctions as “gambling enterprises” or “lotteries”. The people who post negative comments about GroobLi in order to drive traffic to their own site can “say” that it’s gambling, but the legal authorities who are responsible for enforcing gambling laws in each state do not agree.
      9. “You must send an email to the support team . . .otherwise you miss your chance to get paid. They promise you’ll get commissions, and technically you’ve earned them, but at the last minute (when it should be obvious that you shouldn’t have to do anything to claim the money that is owed to you) they tell you that you didn’t follow the obviously non-standard procedure” This is just another comment made completely out-of-context in an attempt to “cry scam” and create controversy. The procedure mentioned is not “obviously non-standard” as claimed; it is instead the standard procedure for getting payments wire transferred, as posted on the Associates’ back office website. Business Associates must confirm each month (with a simple email to Support) whether or not they want their earned commissions to be wire transferred into their bank accounts on “payday” (which is the 15th of each month). This policy is in place for the benefit of the Associates, because many Associates prefer to let their accounts build to a certain level before paying the wire transfer fees charged by the banks. It is not true that if an Associate fails to notify Support, they “miss [their] chance to get paid”. They only miss the chance to get paid on that particular day. They need only to notify Support to get payment issued immediately. Also, GroobLi has never cut commissions, delayed commissions or failed to make commission payments as one anonymous poster claimed. All bank transfers to the U.S. are transcontinental and may take one or two days longer than expected, but this is entirely controlled by bank policy, not by GroobLi.
      10. GroobLi is a private company at this time, and as is customary for a private company, it does not publish its financial reports for the general public.
      11. The listing of GroobLi shares on any public stock exchange will occur only when the Board of Directors determines that the market is favorable for such an offering.
      12. The interview with Dean Mannheimer dated August 2008 contained no misinformation or inaccuracies.
      13. GroobLi has no connection to Andy Bodowin or TNI, and any innuendo to that effect is false. The writer who likes to name these two in his posts about GroobLi has denied that he is implying any connection . . . but he continues to name them.
      14. GroobLi uses Fedex, UPS and DHL, and has never overcharged for shipping. The comments posted to the contrary (most of which have been retracted) are fabrications and can be easily verified as such by checking any of the above carriers’ price lists.
      15. GroobLi customers are never overcharged for products that are purchased or won on the auctions. The comments posted about “paying double at the checkout” stem from the poster’s lack of understanding of how the auctions work. This comment was subsequently withdrawn by the poster, who admitted that he was wrong.
      16. There are numerous erroneous comments posted about the cost of Product Packages to Business Associates, most of which have been subsequently retracted (but most of which remain posted on the site). The errors range from simple math inaccuracies to a complete lack of understanding of what is being charged and to whom.

      Bottom line, GroobLi is a complex business that combines a customer-focused shopping portal with a network marketing distribution model. That combination gives Business Associates the rare opportunity to earn an ongoing cut of the revenue stream in an emerging Internet company; a benefit that is normally available only to equity holders and venture investors.

      As for comments posted on the Internet about GroobLi, please consider the source (and the source’s underlying motivation) before you attribute any credibility to the comment. Also, if you read something not covered here that appears to raise a red flag, please ask about it . . . you’ll find that, most often, it “just ain’t so.””

      Hmmm, so if The Spinfactor agenda and real business is delivering advertising to people who visit their site. Their strategy is to post defamatory comments that create controversy and elicit responses (thus driving traffic to the site and boosting ad revenue), what does that make You? Discusting!

1689. Comment by Only Facts | October 11th, 2009

      Aka.

      Sorry for the length of the post, however I am answering a direct question.

      Firstly though, Aka are you in Australia? Did you win the TV in the auction? Is it PAL or NTSC? does it need a power converter? and how much was the freight?

      Anyway to answer your question.

      When I returned to Australia to finish my education, like most Uni students cash flow was always an issue so a class mate of mine arranged a job for me at the restaurant he worked at as a bartender. Like a lot of restaurants, this one was going through a bad patch. At the same time, at Uni, we had an assignment due that was based around correcting the flaws of a failing business. Naturally we chose the restaurant where we worked. When we told the owner what we had done, he jokingly said he would give us a thousand dollars for a look at the assignment. We told him he could look at it for nothing, but if he implement the procedures he had to give us a cut of the net profits for the next 3 months. To our surprise he agreed. Business improved, we made a lot more than a thousand dollars and everyone was happy. The restaurant was in the business heart of Sydney, and being an insignificant waiter and bartender we were privy to most conversations. When we overheard that someone’s business was in trouble, we would slip a business card in with the bill that offered a free assessment. The idea worked and our consultancy company thrived. Since that time I bought outright, in partnership or commenced other businesses. While I am still active with these business I spend most of my time as a venture capitalist.

      I am constantly receiving Business Plans to invest in, which is why I am so interested in the “Droobli Business Model” that the BA’s constantly refer to, but cannot supply. From what I have seen and heard of the Droobli concept, commission packages etc; The model is unclear, overly complicated, unrealistic and unsustainable. Add to that the history of some of the people involved, if this came across my desk it would be a case of thankyou but no thankyou simply because at it’s basic level the concept has too many potential problems to be solved in it’s current form.

1690. Comment by Only Facts | October 11th, 2009

      New Arrival

      We have all seen that Droobli site quite a while ago and commented on it several times. However please read the following.

      Spin Factor makes about $7 a week from advertising. That amount is not just for the page on Droobli, but the entire site so for Droobli to suggest that Eaglescouts “real business is to deliver advertising………..” is simply ridiculous and obviously so. Droobli makes about $250 per week. Regardless of the agenda of the author, most people deliver facts on this site. What you wish to do with those facts is up to you. You should though, be made aware of them.

      “Their strategy is to post defamatory posts…….” This comment in it self is defamatory. When this site commenced Droobli promised to do everything in its power to have it removed even threatening legal action for deformation. Over a year on and the site is still here. Droobli has not been able to prove deformation. This in it self must mean that the majority of facts supplied are correct.

      “The comments they post are consistently inaccurate……..” Again this in it self is inaccurate just check the facts and sources your self with the links provided.

      “……irrelevant” Relevance is dependant on the individual.

      “…..out of context” Droobli spin.

      “……and/or fabricated” If they were fabricated, they would be a lie. If they were lies they would be defamatory. If they were defamatory the site would be sued. Over a year still here.

      “……..Kelkoo, which is the Yahoo!-owned search engine in Europe”. Incorrect. Yahoo sold Kelkoo (for a massive loss) quite a while ago. Kelkoo was never a search engine, in the modern sense of the word, but a price comparison service, there is a massive difference. If there was not then you could call this site a search engine

      In reference to this site correcting it’s mistakes, this has to be a good thing does it not? Try leaving a negative comment on any Droobli site. It fades away into cyber heaven never to see the light of day.

      Droobli refers to their auctions as “Hooks………to drive traffic to their site”. It appears what Droobli is referring to is a marketing technique called The Bait & Hook method. You offer the customer something of value, such as the promise of high commissions, this is the Bait. Then you hook them by making them pay an over inflated price to continue to use the product. A lot like the need to buy new credits to be able to give them out for free, or partake in the auctions. Have you ever wondered why it cost so much more to buy replacement blades for your razor, when the razor itself (that came with free blades) was cheaper? That’s the Bait & Hook method also known as the razor and blades business model. Now if Droobli truly believes their auctions are the hook, you need to ask what is the bait? At best this was a mistake due the the fact one of the major points of concern for people looking at Droobli is that you have to pay to look at the price, so they would never go to the shopping porthole. In short the Bait & Hook method is never good for the consumer.

      A lot is made of the Companies, with Bobby Jensen’s involvement, that went bankrupt. And the suggestions that they were restaurants. My research, which can be found in earlier posts, shows their was one restaurant, Mr Taco and other companies including Marketing and communications. The suggestion that Droobli Denmark was voluntarily liquidated because it moved to Germany, doesn’t make sense. If the company was going well why would you liquidate it simply to move your head office? Would you not let this successful company continue as a branch. If Droobli’s reasoning is correct, does that mean that Germany will voluntarily liquidate when the world headquarters moves to Miami?

      You will also noticed that there is no mention of Droobli going bankrupt in Spain. A fact Droobli avoids like the plague.

      There is so much that could be discussed about this document.

      As I have said many times before. Don’t believe me, don’t believe this site, just take the information supplied and research yourself. You will find the same answers.

      As well, could you please supply a serious fact posted on this site that is incorrect?

1691. Comment by beavis | October 11th, 2009

      Why, oh why do I argue with sheep? You give them the facts and sheep simply believe what sheep want to believe. You give them a logical argument and it causes their little sheep heads to spin. All they can do is bleat out bullet points from a Droobli webinar. I should get your contact info over to the Nigerian “phone lads”; they probably need the money more than Bobby Jensen.

1692. Comment by Gary | October 11th, 2009

      Only Facts,

      I think your thinking what I’m thinking regarding Ake and his television purchase? You will see my post re my surprise that they had harvey Norman stores o/s.. It seems he is in Australia and seeing as though the auction isn’t up yet here it would make it pretty difficult to do what he says he has done?? I could be wrong?? I’m interested to know Ake? Please explain?

1693. Comment by Ake | October 11th, 2009

      Okay, I lied. But I hate losing out to you guys about droobli.

1694. Comment by beavis | October 11th, 2009

      You lost.

1695. Comment by Only Facts | October 11th, 2009

      Aka.
      Please stop thinking of this as a competition. You should be angry at is the person that signed you up or is attempting to sign you up. Either they have not conducted any research or they have and are trying to keep you from the facts. This is how the company works. This is what has happened to people such as Gene. They get caught out, then they continually grab at straws and try to divert attention from the facts so they don’t have to admit to themselves they made a mistake. It’s only a mistake if you don’t learn anything from it.

1696. Comment by Gary | October 11th, 2009

      New Arrival,

      Are you starting to see the reality of what’s actualy happening here? We just want to help innocent people like Ake & others from receiving the wrong infomation so some can profiteer. From your post above it seems you may be getting the same kind of incorrect information that Ake and others get? Nothing to be ashamed of, we all make mistakes, some just a little more expensive than others.. Something to think about..

1697. Comment by Gene | October 12th, 2009

      Hi Only Facts,

      Oh yeah O.F. is a successful beav. That’s what happens to guys like him. Parrots!
      The guy thinks he’s pulling the wool over your eyes but doesn’t even know everyone sees
      right through beav. He can’t even understand the company comp plan it’s too complicated for
      him therefore it can’t work in his mind. Neither can he see that
      there is a savings in the auctions and wants to try to downgrade something he can’t
      even understand of which others see clearly. In fact he doesn’t understand that the auctions are not
      the whole deal here he seems to avoid the fact that there’s an online store with reward points for every
      shopper and the auctions are just a sideline a place to have a little fun shopping. He can’t grasp the idea that this will be a world portal and associates will get click
      through revenue every time someone clicks on an item whether purchased or not.
      When I have millions of customers, which you could also, click through my site how
      much money do you think that would generate a day? Then if items are purchased they
      make a percentage and they get more when they have a downline of associates. They
      also benefit from the downline customer base and not only their own.
      Now that’s something. What’s hard to understand about that? It’s just free enterprise.
      I like that.
      He’s gotten in a little over his head. I wonder if uni can help him much. I guess this is like a confessional
      for him here on this blog. Well he must need to vent somewhere and this is as good a place as any. So yes take him
      with a grain of salt. Now remember these blogs are a gimmick too to draw customers and they’d love you
      to click on the links here but click on mine that shouldn’t be a problem. You could bid on a MasterCard and
      get a 500 dollar card for 460 just like I saw on the auction today. They did better than I did the other day.
      There is nothing incorrect about the savings here. Of course you will have to spend an 80 cent credit just like everyone else
      to do so. You can get some free credits when you register and see how it works. Then start buying some credits and tell your friends. You could get more free credits. Make sure you give the proper information
      and I will send them off to you. You don’t really need to spend time on this blog because they just want attention
      for their own evil purposes. Why would I say that? Well because they really aren’t interested in protecting the public interest here. They just want you to click through their stuff. Just trick you into it but we shouldn’t be tricked. That’s wrong. Now we aren’t tricking anyone like they do here we are up front and tell you you will have to buy credits to continue the auctions. Now that’s a business model. There are different levels and you make more money the higher you get. Now isn’t it that way in any business you do?
      If you’re interested in getting into the business I can help and if you just want to shop that’s fine too. It’s really pretty simple.
      Have fun shopping!!!!

1698. Comment by beavis | October 12th, 2009

      Gene,

      You’ve never been right before in your life and this time you are wrong. You said:

      “He can’t even understand the company comp plan it’s too complicated for
      him therefore it can’t work in his mind. Neither can he see that
      there is a savings in the auctions and wants to try to downgrade something he can’t
      even understand of which others see clearly. In fact he doesn’t understand that the auctions are not
      the whole deal here he seems to avoid the fact that there’s an online store with reward points for every
      shopper and the auctions are just a sideline a place to have a little fun shopping. He can’t grasp the idea that this will be a world portal and associates will get click
      through revenue every time someone clicks on an item whether purchased or not.”

      Hmmm, since I’m qualified by the State of Nevada to run a mortgage brokerage or bank(seven years at the helm of a multi-branch mortgage operation), have ten years experience as the broker of a real estate company, formerly held both a Series 7 and 63 securities license and worked one of Wall Street’s preeminent New York Stock Exchange member firms as a stock broker, I think I can grasp your little Podunk operation’s stupid compensation plan. How long do you expect us to listen to this crap when Droobli has been in operation for years with nothing to show for itself but a bunch of “Business Associates” with lightened wallets? You fools are not making any money; you are not progressing. Why? Because your concept sucks. The public will not buy it. The buyer’s on your auctions are the fools that bought $3000 plaus worth of tokens to become “BA’s”. It’s the ultimate circle jerk!

      To this day you cannot answer the allegations that the auctions are rigged and/or fraudulent. Why is that?

1699. Comment by Gary | October 12th, 2009

      Gene,

      You really crack me up!! Please don’t stop posting!! You too Bob!!

      Beavis,

      The ulitmate circle jerk! LOL that’s really funny!

      New Arrival,

      We are all eagerly awaiting for your response regarding Only Facts last post?

      Cheers..

1700. Comment by beavis | October 12th, 2009

      Gary,

      You may find “the ultimate circle jerk” is funny but remember, somebody has to clean up the mess in the middle. Oh, I’m sorry, that’s Gene

1701. Comment by Caleb Mustone | October 13th, 2009

      Gene you said:

      “He can’t grasp the idea that this will be a world portal and associates will get click through revenue every time someone clicks on an item whether purchased or not.”

      Every time someone checks out an item on Droobli’s shopping mall BAs receive money? That is impossible!!! I’ll tell you why Gene. Because then all the Gene creep BAs would just set up multiple computers to keep going to the Droobli mall every few seconds. Then all you BAs would have millions of dollars. So it can’t be true.

      Does everything you say have to be a lie? You call yourself a Seventh Day Adventist. You give that denomination a bad name. Do not dare call yourself a Christian. Money is your God – you creepy horrible little man.

1702. Comment by kerry | October 13th, 2009

      Was considering buying into this, but now due to the lack of intelligence shown by people swearing by it and the back ground of the people running it my time and money will be better spent else where.

1703. Comment by Gene | October 13th, 2009

      Why are you calling me a creep there Caleb? Yes I am a Christian and been one since I was 21. NOw I am old. I am not promoting anything that is not above board big guy. Are you a Christian? No money is not my God. Who is your God the accuser of the brethren? You are a what and profess what? It’s getting pretty low here in the cesspool. You have a lot of room to talk there Caleb. You point the finger where there is none to point. Why not point it at beav or eagle or OF or yourself? See if they are Christians. Give me a break. You’re not a Christian from what your fruits show. And if not you have no business telling Christians who they are or what they are. You must have looked around the Internet didn’t you ? I’m all over. You find I run a construction business don’t you. I am on facebook twitter and have some yahoo groups.I do a lot of things. What do you do? But lie and try to make good people look bad cause they want to have a shopping mall. Undoubtedly you don’t give your real name. How ridiculous.

1704. Comment by Gene | October 13th, 2009

      beav no one cares about your credentials what they see is your character. You bad mouth people call them names. You’d think all your education would give you some culture. But you
      are incomplete. How does a parrot survive in a cesspool?

1705. Comment by NewArrival | October 13th, 2009

      Hi Bev
      Sorry – I did’nt know You were “expecting my call”.

      To set something strait: I’ve not yet decided wether to join Droobli or not.
      The article I posted can be found at this address: http://www.droobliscam.org and was found by a simple google-search during my research.

      The article is well written – as e few of the articles here and has a nice twist to it.

      Now, O.F. have some interresting points there, and I’ll consider them carefully. I have no ambition what so ever to go into a dialogue with You Bev. With all the garbage coming from You that would be plain stupid.

      This is mainly why I don’t spend much time here…too much garbage to be taken seriously.

      Finally, I took my car last wednesday and drove to Berlin (I live ind Denmark) to see the Droobli HQ in Europe. So far it has only been a picture on a slide and I wanted to see for my self..

      Unfortunately Bobby Jensen was’nt there but I got to see the office and talked to a few people who worked there for about an hour.

      I guy from the Nasdaq Team was doing an assesment and seemed pretty happy about the company. He could’nt give out any information but said that he expected that the merge with Medianet group would be finalized shortly and announced at OTCBB sometime this week.

      This means that Droobli by the Nasdaq team has been found completely legal and has the funds to go through with the merger.

      For me that means that they are very serious about their business and…..means business.

      In danger of being called ..something.. by Bev or others, that – along with the first quaterly financial report from the merged company – will be the final point of descission for me.
      Until then…good luck to Ya all

1706. Comment by beavis | October 13th, 2009

      NewArrival,

      You are a liar! OTCBB is not Nasdaq, fool. Here is the difference (try a little research next you try to bullshit us):

      Issuer Differences

      * The Nasdaq Stock Market has rigorous listing standards to ensure the high quality of its issuers. The only requirement for inclusion in the OTCBB is that an issuer be current in required periodic filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) or other appropriate federal regulatory authority.
      * There is no business relationship between the NASD/OTCBB and any OTCBB issuer. In the case of the OTCBB, it is the market maker who chooses to quote a security on the system, files the application, is obligated to comply with Rule 15c2-111 and pays a fee. Consequently, the NASD does not have regulatory authority over any OTCBB issuer.

      This is from OTCBB’s website.

1707. Comment by Only Facts | October 13th, 2009

      Newarrival.

      As mentioned previously we have been aware of that site for quiet a while now. The reason it was posted by Droobli was because, contrary to their claims, there is nothing defamatory in regard to Droobli on this site so the only way to combat it was to start their own.

      Now you may believe the writing is worthy of the Barb of Avon, and has a nice twist, however that is the problem. There are more twists and turns than a fun house, more inaccuracy and misleading information than a political rally, more nonsensical ramblings than a post from Gene and most important more omissions than a report on weapons of mass destruction.

      Another thing that struck me with your post is why would there be a guy from the Nasdaq there in the first place??????? The Nasdaq is a stock exchange. Surely you actually meant you met a guy from the SEC, and if that is the case he has just broken so many laws, and in return so have you by posting the information that law enforcement agencies must be riffling through both of your files and computers as we speak. It’s called insider trading. Also as I have mentioned to you before, Droobli will not be on the exchange, Medianet (or same company different name) will through CG Holdings.

      I am also curious on what you saw there in relation to their offices i.e.; How many offices, how many staff, how many floors, what was the name on the door as there is a suggestion that this address is yet again a postal address through a third party tenant.

      I still believe you idea of waiting until next year to make your decision is a good one. Good luck to you.

      Message for Aka.

      If you have joined Droobli and you want out, I believe I have found a way for you to recoup your money even after the cooling off period. And sorry guys this will only work in Aus and NZ and not for long.

1708. Comment by Gene | October 13th, 2009

      Come on now beav/eagle stop using your alias of O.F and all the rest.. Put a real name up.

      No guts no glory!

1709. Comment by Gary | October 13th, 2009

      Only Facts,

      Is it possible to get back the joining fee? It’s around Au $230.00 I think? If so, please let me know.. If it wasn’t for this site I was going to invest in a gold package. Thanks so much!!

1710. Comment by Only Facts | October 13th, 2009

      Gary.

      Yes it is possible, however potentially complicated. I have helped several people recoup their money this way.

      First you must go to the person that sighed you up, and tell them you want a refund due to they did not supply full disclosure on the company. People involved etc. Previous bankruptcies, history of scam participation by members of the management team, the independent legal advice from the company is actually from a member of the management team so is misleading. As well, inform him that there may a legal issue with selling the product before the launch. It’s the same as buying a home of the plan, you can take a deposit but you cant sell it outright until there is an actual product. Droobli is aware of this and is currently attempting to spin their way out of it. Also you mention you are not convinced the auctions are not gambling, and ask to see a ruling from an Australian organisation. He will probably tell you not to believe any of it, when you push the point he will probably say there is nothing he can do because the cooling off period is over. This is when you tell him to contact who ever he needs to and make it happen or you will go to Fair Trading. Once Droobli hears the words Fair Trading they should, because they have in the past, refund your money straight away. If they don’t actually contact Fair Trading mention everything above and ask them to contact Droobli on your behalf. This they will do and your money should be refunded, as it has happened before. This will do two things. 1. Get your money back. 2. Get fair trading involved. Fair Trading is not allowed to act until they receive enough complaints.

      Please keep us informed on your progress. Good luck

1711. Comment by beavis, King of Sparta | October 13th, 2009

      Only Facts,

      I wouldn’t even entertain this joker, Newarrival, as anything less then a liar. Most these Drooblidiots are refusing to see the truth but this clown just makes stuff up without a bit of research. NASDAQ Team my ass.

1712. Comment by Gary | October 13th, 2009

      Only Facts,

      I think I’ll cop it and learn my lesson but to those who invested in packages you really should consider taking action.. We also have alot of a current affair programmes in Ausralia that would really expose Droobli for what it is.. Mmm that could be interesting..

1713. Comment by Jack Daddy | October 13th, 2009

      Is this serious about getting your money back?

      I’ve invested in the company, I bought a Bronze package and have recently found out that in MLM Law it is illegal to accept someones investment without actually exchanging a visible product?

      Now, Droobli’s ‘product’ are the credits, but since you can only see them online and not actually hold/touch/see them in person etc, that is illegal. Am I right?

      Really appreciate an answer here.

      BTW does anyone know anything about USANA?

1714. Comment by Bruce W | October 14th, 2009

      Hello,

      A friend of mine has just got involved with Droobli, bronze package… she’s now pitching the product to me (as well as her other friends) and I must say it looks good.

      But should I get involved or not?

      Thanks.

1715. Comment by Eugene | October 14th, 2009

      Bruce:

      It’s a long read, but if you go through the posts above, you should be able to make up your mind.

1716. Comment by Bob | October 14th, 2009

      Unbelievable!
      Put some facts in here instead of baloney about Droobli taking peoples money, and people wanting refunds.

      Where are the 5 bankruptcies?

      The stuff about Jonathan Gulla for example is unfounded and based on a crazy adversarial relative’s blog.

      I am glad I did not read this blog before i signed up for Droobli, or I would have potentially missed out on an amazing business.

      The policies and procedures are in plain sight for people as customers or business associates to read.

      Don’t get involved in Droobli unless you are serious, and want to be trained to establish a global, and loyal customer base.

      Ask yourself “what’s in it for the customer”?
      The answer is savings, and fun.

      That’s why I have customers in many countries, who are recommending customers to other customers.

      You guys should be ashamed of yourselves spending so much time trying to prove something so absurd like “Droobli is a scam.” Time to get a life.

1717. Comment by Only Facts | October 14th, 2009

      Morning Bob

      I hope all is well.

      Re: People wanting refunds.

      I’m sorry Bob but it is actually happening, and yes Jack Daddy you can get your money back and yes you are right. Spot on in fact.

      Re: 5 Bankruptcies.

      1. Droobli Denmark, what ever spin they want to put on it. Even if you take that out lets try Droobli Spain.

      2. World of Wine

      3. K.T Marketing

      4. Mr Taco (only restaurant)

      5. Global Communications

      Re: Jonathan Gulla

      While I agree with you that the majority of information regarding Mr Gulla available on the net is a bit far fetched, the fact remains that Mr Gulla and his wife Barbara was involved with Startronics. Mr Gulla’s title was Founding Managing Field Partner and Mrs Gullla was Vice President of Marketing. A little more than merely an employee, I’m sure you would agree.

      Re: Facts.

      I really don’t know how many more facts you need than what has been supplied. Could you be a bit more specific?

      Re: Policies and procedures. Terms and Conditions

      Agree they are there, however they are defiantly not standard business practices. In Terms and Conditions points 3 and 8. This should scare the hell out you. Basically it says you, and not Droobli are responsible and liable for your customers.

      Re: Whats in it for the customer?

      A very good point, but first you need to identify who the customer actually is? Initially in the US and now in Australia the customers are the people buying the BA packages. That’s the fact, cannot be denied and can not be argued against. This has been happening here in Australia for over 7 months. End of story. Once Droobli is “Launched” the customers will still be the Ba’s buying their own products. There is no where near enough independent evidence to suggest otherwise, and if there is please supply. There is however enough evidence through Web traffic, and other internet indicators to suggest it’s limited success. I still don’t get the fun aspect.

      Re: ….so absurd like “Droobli is a scam.”

      Whether Droobli is a scam or not is something for the Courts to decide. Is the idea absurd? Well, when you have people within the management team and high up within the organisation previously being highly involved with other proven scams, it is very possible. Is it a good business model? have yet to see one. Is it a good business plan? have yet to see one. Bob you really need to stop looking and “savings and fun” aspect and look into the actual business, because it doesn’t add up. You can have the greatest product in the world and still stuff it up.

      Bob if have have any independent evidence on the success of Droobli I would be very happy to see it. If you dispute any of the facts seen here let me know and I will clarify.

1718. Comment by Get it Right | October 14th, 2009

      The Business Model

      Most people look at droobli.com and think it’s an auction site, in business to sell auction items to customers. This is not really the case. GroobLi’s auctions are a strategic “means to an end”, and only a small part of the revenue model. GroobLi.com is an early stage shopping portal that aggregates shoppers on its website, and then sells those shoppers to major search engines and online merchants for click-through fees and revenue-share fees. Aggregating and selling online shoppers is an established, multi-billion-dollar industry, led by companies like Google, Amazon and eBay. GroobLi is already a player in this industry with its largest customer for ecommerce services being Kelkoo, which is the Yahoo!-owned search engine in Europe. GroobLi charges Kelkoo whenever GroobLi shoppers click through to Kelkoo or purchase products from Kelkoo affiliated merchants.

      The most successful shopping portals have “hooks” to draw traffic to their site. Google’s hook is search; Amazon’s has always been books; eBay’s is auctions. GroobLi’s hook is reverse auctions and shopping games (entertainment shopping). GroobLi uses reverse auctions and games to drive traffic to droobli.com. In an eBay auction, the seller is charged the auction fee. In a GroobLi auction, the bidder is charged the fee with each bid, in the form of a GroobLi “credit” that costs 80¢. This auction fee covers GroobLi’s cost of acquiring the customer and running the auctions and games, and it also covers the cost of reducing the auction price of the product by 25¢ with each bid, which makes the auctions exciting and drives traffic. In exchange for the 80¢ fee, the customer gets access to discounted prices at droobli.com, in the same way that a Costco member gets access to discounted prices at Costco stores in exchange for the membership fee. The GroobLi customer also gets “entertainment” value in watching the price drop, which is critical to the viral growth of the customer base.

      GroobLi’s strategic focus is on expanding its customer base, because the value of any shopping portal business is directly related to the size of its customer base. GroobLi uses a traditional network marketing distribution model to launch its initial customer base in new markets, both because GroobLi’s founder has had successful experience in network marketing, and because a network model can create large, loyal, initial customer bases faster and cheaper than advertising-based models. What GroobLi gets with its network marketing model is initial customers fast and cheap (without having to raise millions of dollars for each new market launch); what GroobLi gives up is a cut of its revenue stream, paid out in commissions to its Business Associates for the life of their customers.

      GroobLi’s Business Associates are paid commission to create new customer bases and to sponsor new Business Associates (who, in turn, create more new customer bases). Commissions are paid to Associates whenever their registered customers buy credits to participate in droobli.com auctions or whenever their customers generate click-through or revenue-share fees by clicking through to GroobLi’s search engine partner. In order to create a new customer base, Business Associates buy GroobLi credits in bulk (called “Product Packages”), and then give away the credits to prospective customers to get them to visit the site and try out the auctions. When a new Business Associate buys a Product Package, commission is paid to the recruiting Business Associate, just as if a customer had bought the credits (and that is how Business Associates earn commission from recruiting new Business Associates).

      Here are the negative comments that are posted on the Internet (in italics), followed by the facts, along with some answers to frequently asked questions:
      1. “GroobLi is a de facto pyramid scheme because . . . 97% of its revenue comes from [the sale of Product Packages].” Actually, the percentage of revenue coming from Product Packages is probably higher than that in the U.S. right now; but that just makes it a product launch strategy, not a pyramid scheme. The majority of revenue in any new GroobLi market will always come from the sale of Product Packages until the Business Associates have created a base of customers who generate ecommerce revenue (click-throughs, revenue-shares, and credit sales). When that happens, it will signal the end of the launch period for that market and the beginning of the early stage growth period. There is nothing about selling credits to Business Associates to launch new markets that constitutes a pyramid.
      2. “If [my] updated estimates are correct, GroobLi has made between $8,500 and $12,000 on the 3 games in 1 month . . . How can GroobLi sustain itself?” It can’t sustain itself on auction revenue, and no one has ever claimed that it would. The objective of GroobLi’s auction unit is not to sell product. It is instead to drive traffic to the portal, while selling as many credits as possible (and ironically, while selling as few items as possible). GroobLi is a shopping portal, not an auction house. Its success is measured by the number of shoppers it aggregates and sells. The amount of auction revenue generated is irrelevant and has no bearing on GroobLi’s success or sustainability.
      3. “GroobLi is a pyramid scheme because it sells nothing of value.” Not true, and Yahoo! and its affiliated merchants who pay GroobLi each month for its click-through shoppers agree (along with all of the registered GroobLi customers who buy credits each month and participate in the auctions). There is no question that businesses and customers alike find GroobLi’s products and services valuable and are willing to pay for them month after month. This false comment is nothing more than a “cry pyramid” attempt to drive traffic, and it comes with zero substantiation (because there is none).
      4. “GroobLi is a Ponzi scheme because it uses new investor dollars to pay returns to earlier investors.” Can’t be true. GroobLi does not sell licenses, or investments or securities of any type, and it does not offer “returns” of any sort. It only sells products and services of value, and pays commission to its Business Associates on what is sold. By definition, therefore, it cannot be a Ponzi scheme.
      5. “GroobLi’s founder, Mike Jensen, has bankrupted four companies.” Not true, and the information posted to allegedly “substantiate” this claim is taken completely out of context. Early in his career, Mike Jensen was a restaurant entrepreneur who co-founded several companies in Denmark. Long after he sold his interest and resigned from management, the subsequent owners and management teams of three of those companies bankrupted them (which is not at all uncommon in the restaurant industry). Although the Danish public records will always show Mr. Jensen linked to those companies as a founder (which is the out-of-context information prominently posted by one site), Mr. Jensen had no involvement in the subsequent management or bankruptcy of those companies. It is true that GroobLi’s original corporate entity, GroobLi Danmark ApS, was voluntarily liquidated and dissolved when the company acquired a German company and moved its headquarters from Denmark to Germany. Here again, the information posted is presented out-of-context of being an orderly and proper wind up of a corporate entity that was no longer being used. A later post on the same site (by someone not affiliated with the site) provides a list of dates and events that corroborates everything stated here. The site acknowledges the new information and does not dispute its veracity, but continues to leave the out-of-context information displayed as the lead items under the heading of “GroobLi Fact Repository” (so that it will continue to create controversy and drive traffic, which makes them money).
      6. “GroobLi isn’t even registered in the United States.” Incorrect. A simple search reveals that GroobLi.com is a registered LLC in the state of Delaware, and GroobLi’s U.S. distribution warehouse is located in Phoenix, AZ. The site that posted this ridiculous claim subsequently retracted it.
      7. “GroobLi doesn’t even register when you compare traffic analysis.” That’s true, but the claim is made out-of-context because the analysis comes from public web metrics companies (like Google or Alexa) who don’t measure traffic that comes through “personal home pages.” Most GroobLi customers visit droobli.com via a Business Associate’s individual website link (i.e., droobli.com/xxxxxxx). By their own admission, most web metrics companies do not count what they classify as “personal home pages,” which are treated separately if they can be automatically identified as such from the URLs in question, which is the case with any Business Associate’s droobli.com/xxxxxxx link.
      8. “GroobLi is a gambling business.” Not true, and the U.S. States’ Attorney offices seem to agree. None have elected to take any action or even object to GroobLi’s auctions as “gambling enterprises” or “lotteries.” The people who post negative comments about GroobLi in order to drive traffic to their own site can “say” that it’s gambling, but the legal authorities who are responsible for enforcing gambling laws in each state do not agree.
      9. “You must send an email to the support team . . .otherwise you miss your chance to get paid. They promise you’ll get commissions, and technically you’ve earned them, but at the last minute (when it should be obvious that you shouldn’t have to do anything to claim the money that is owed to you) they tell you that you didn’t follow the obviously non-standard procedure.” This is just another comment made completely out-of-context in an attempt to “cry scam” and create controversy. The procedure mentioned is not “obviously non-standard” as claimed; it is instead the standard procedure for getting payments wire transferred, as posted on the Associates’ back office website. Business Associates must confirm each month (with a simple email to Support) whether or not they want their earned commissions to be wire transferred into their bank accounts on “payday” (which is the 15th of each month). This policy is in place for the benefit of the Associates, because many Associates prefer to let their accounts build to a certain level before paying the wire transfer fees charged by the banks. It is not true that if an Associate fails to notify Support, they “miss [their] chance to get paid.” They only miss the chance to get paid on that particular day. They need only to notify Support to get payment issued immediately. Also, GroobLi has never cut commissions, delayed commissions or failed to make commission payments as one anonymous poster claimed. All bank transfers to the U.S. are transcontinental and may take one or two days longer than expected, but this is entirely controlled by bank policy, not by GroobLi.
      10. GroobLi is a private company at this time, and as is customary for a private company, it does not publish its financial reports for the general public.
      11. The listing of GroobLi shares on any public stock exchange will occur only when the Board of Directors determines that the market is favorable for such an offering.
      12. The interview with Dean Mannheimer dated August 2008 contained no misinformation or inaccuracies.
      13. GroobLi has no connection to Andy Bodowin or TNI, and any innuendo to that effect is false. The writer who likes to name these two in his posts about GroobLi has denied that he is implying any connection . . . but he continues to name them.
      14. GroobLi uses Fedex, UPS and DHL, and has never overcharged for shipping. The comments posted to the contrary (most of which have been retracted) are fabrications and can be easily verified as such by checking any of the above carriers’ price lists.
      15. GroobLi customers are never overcharged for products that are purchased or won on the auctions. The comments posted about “paying double at the checkout” stem from the poster’s lack of understanding of how the auctions work. This comment was subsequently withdrawn by the poster, who admitted that he was wrong.
      16. There are numerous erroneous comments posted about the cost of Product Packages to Business Associates, most of which have been subsequently retracted (but most of which remain posted on the site). The errors range from simple math inaccuracies to a complete lack of understanding of what is being charged and to whom.
      Bottom line, GroobLi is a complex business that combines a customer-focused shopping portal with a network marketing distribution model. That combination gives Business Associates the rare opportunity to earn an ongoing cut of the revenue stream in an emerging Internet company, a benefit that is normally available only to equity holders and venture investors.

      As for comments posted on the Internet about GroobLi, please consider the source (and the source’s underlying motivation) before you attribute any credibility to the comment. Also, if you read something not covered here that appears to raise a red flag, please ask about it . . . you’ll find that, most often, it “just ain’t so.”

1719. Comment by Only Facts | October 14th, 2009

      Get it right.
      That is not a business model, this is Droobli’s response to this site. To make it as simply as I can, and god help I got it from Wiki, in it’s basic and I do mean basic form a business model is;
      A business model is a framework for creating economic, social, and/or other forms of value. The term business model is thus used for a broad range of informal and formal descriptions to represent core aspects of a business, including purpose, offerings, strategies, infrastructure, organizational structures, trading practices, and operational processes and policies.

      In fact a true business model is a lot more precise, and is incorporated into the business plan.

1720. Comment by Jack Daddy | October 14th, 2009

      Only Facts,

      Would I be able to get in contact with you regarding the method in which i can recoup my investment?

      Your email would do if thats possible?

1721. Comment by Lord beavis | October 14th, 2009

      Get it Right in The Ass said:

      “GroobLi uses reverse auctions and games to drive traffic to droobli.com.”

      So, since the auction traffic sucks I guess that blows the business plan. Can’t generate click thru income if you ain’t traffic, princess.

1722. Comment by Lord beavis | October 14th, 2009

      Stupid keyboard. . . “ain’t got traffic, dumbass princess” (I missed two words).

1723. Comment by G.J. Howard | October 15th, 2009

      I still can’t figure Droobli out. How can they offer low prices after purchasing the goods from reputable companies at retail. They must be taking a loss on all their shopping mall items. Also, the reverse auctions idea is just stupid.

      I keep coming to the same conclusion that it must be a ponzi scheme. The only real money in the pyramid tower must be the new people they get to go gold at $3000. Sell enough of those “gold memberships” and you don’t actually have to sell anything.

      The spirit of Bernie Madoff is alive and well.

1724. Comment by Jack Daddy | October 15th, 2009

      Does anyone know of a good site that features MLM Law in it?

1725. Comment by Get it Right | October 15th, 2009

      It seems you have your own agenda and can’t or don’t want to be helped.. All your highly inflammatory objections have been answered and they lie in the dust. .

1726. Comment by Leave it to beavis | October 15th, 2009

      Get it Right in the Ass declares victory. . . oh, my.

1727. Comment by kees | October 15th, 2009

      I’m in the Netherlands, but suppose I’m in the UK and looking for a nice deal on wide screen LCD TV’s

      Presently on the EU droobli site:
      Express auction for Samsung UE32B6000 LED TV
      Start price: EUR 729,00 (or aprox. GBP 669)

      Under “More details” one can see that the Shipping Costs for this TV are “10 points”
      What does “10 points” mean?
      Click on the link and find out that “10 points” in shipping costs for the UK means EUR 225.95, which presently is aprox. GBP 207 …. now that’s a LOT of money to ship a TV…. are they shipping from the Moon, or what?

      This same TV can be bought at Amazon.co.uk for GBP 649.99 (aprox. EUR 708) with FREE shipping.

      Then there is the Toshiba REGZA 32RV6365D LCD TV, start price EUR 463.50 (or aprox. GBP 425) with the same HUGE shipping fee of EUR 225.95 / GBP 207

      This model (“32RV6365D”) doesn’t even show up in Google anywhere, except on Droobli(associated) sites…. what’s up with that? Does this TV even excists in the real world???

      How do Droobli associates think customers will get all excited and ‘viral’ about such rip-off shipping costs for a TV that weighs less than 15 kilos?

1728. Comment by Gary | October 15th, 2009

      Get it right,

      Read post 1688, you just re posted the same post of the Droobli website as New Arrival did. Read post 1690 where Only Facts explains what really goes on..

1729. Comment by Only Facts | October 15th, 2009

      I strongly suggest everybody goes to this link.
      http://www.themlmfile.com.au/default.asp

      It is, without a doubt the best and most comprehensive explanation on MLM I have ever seen. You will find many similarities with Droobli. Please read as much as you can. Especially the part about the author.

      Get it right.

      Whats lying in the dust? And you have still yet to bring up anything.

1730. Comment by Jared 697 | October 15th, 2009

      Thanks Kees for your informative stuff about Droobli prices. Your post was very telling. Drooblidiots please read what he said:

      “I’m in the Netherlands, but suppose I’m in the UK and looking for a nice deal on wide screen LCD TV’s

      Presently on the EU droobli site:
      Express auction for Samsung UE32B6000 LED TV
      Start price: EUR 729,00 (or aprox. GBP 669)

      Under “More details” one can see that the Shipping Costs for this TV are “10 points”
      What does “10 points” mean?
      Click on the link and find out that “10 points” in shipping costs for the UK means EUR 225.95, which presently is aprox. GBP 207 …. now that’s a LOT of money to ship a TV…. are they shipping from the Moon, or what?

      This same TV can be bought at Amazon.co.uk for GBP 649.99 (aprox. EUR 708) with FREE shipping.”

      Now we’ll get all the droobli spin on this. The sort of stuff that says nothing.

1731. Comment by undercoverbeavis | October 15th, 2009

      But it’s only 10 points. . .

1732. Comment by kees | October 16th, 2009

      These are the shipping prices Droobli Europe (eu.droobli.com) wants you to pay for the 32″ LCD TV’s they have currently ‘available’ in their Xpress or Unique Bid games, depending in which country you reside:

      79.95 EUR – Germany
      86.95 EUR – Belgium
      89.95 EUR – Netherlands
      94.95 EUR – Austria
      94.95 EUR – Czech Republic
      97.95 EUR – Poland
      109.95 EUR – Slovakia
      111.95 EUR – Denmark
      111.95 EUR – Hungary
      130.95 EUR – Finland
      134.95 EUR – Latvia
      136.95 EUR – Estonia
      139.95 EUR – Italy
      147.95 EUR – Sweden
      148.95 EUR – Switzerland
      151.95 EUR – France
      159.95 EUR – Spain
      179.95 EUR – Norway
      I182.95 EUR – Ireland
      189.95 EUR – Portugal
      192.95 EUR – Bulgaria
      225.95 EUR – United Kingdom
      234.95 EUR – Croatia
      234.95 EUR – Russian Federation
      305.95 EUR – Greece

      (note: presently 1 EUR equals aprox. 1.49 US$ and 0.91 GBP)

      For all countries these shipping costs are a pure rip-off, even if border-crossing were involved.

      I wonder how many potential customers have each enthousiastically told 5 of their friends to check out these incredible ‘money-saving’ deals on Droobli, and how fast Droobli will wipe out ‘the competition’

      Especially regarding those competitors who already offer their most discounted new 32 inch LCD TV’s for around 305 EUR (equals the *shipping costs* to Greece when you buy from Droobli)

      Droobli Business Associates: care to explain Droobli’s shipping-cost strategy?

1733. Comment by kees | October 16th, 2009

      note:
      shipping to Ireland should be 182.95 EUR

1734. Comment by Shaun "Due Diligence" Premo | October 16th, 2009

      Now anyone contemplating joining Droobli please do your “due diligence”. You know your droobli pimps told you to do it. Now, of course they don’t think you’ll really do it (except of course to look at a few droobli sites.)

      Here’s a part of your “due diligence”. Why are there so many people angry about droobli? It’s hardly started and it’s mostly unheard of! So why the anger?

      The answer is this. People are sick of pyramid schemes and MLM marketing. They hate being used by friends and family. They hate those friends and family pretending that they want them to join Droobli for their own benefit. A few weeks ago those friends and family wouldn’t lend them any money. Now, supposedly they’re totally concerned that they might miss out on a “golden opportunity” to “create cash streams” through “viral marketing” where you can earn money “while you sleep” because when any droobli customer “clicks” “money flows into your account”.

      People just don’t buy it. Thet know drooblidiots don’t care about anything or anyone except money.

      Real companies don’t try to make profit by getting people to go and badger others. Perhaps you know an elderly aunt? Sign her up for Droobli !!! What will she ever know ??? Is she dies quickly you get her free credits !!! Win-win for everyone !!! Drooblidiots deserve the financial loss that will come their way.

1735. Comment by Fred Hilton | October 16th, 2009

      I’m going to leave a code for Droobli Business Associates. They will understand my meaning. The code will unleash power to sign up whole families to Droobli. Networking with TNT, we call it. The code will turn the cash stream into a ‘cash torrent’. A ‘cash deluge’. Only Droobli people will understand the code. Be encouraged by it.

      The time is now for 93457.

      Thank you for your interest.

1736. Comment by Nikos | October 16th, 2009

      My God, it’s 007!

1737. Comment by kees | October 16th, 2009

      Please allow me to introduce to you:
      Dr. Droobli, or as he self-describes his personality:

      “Daniel D. is an avid writer on various internet marketing topics and is the founder of the Doctor GroobLi Team. He creates innovative marketing tools for novice and aspiring networkers worldwide from his office in Suburban Detroit. Learn more about his business and how his team is seeing success by integrating social networking and GroobLi marketing”

      While he thinks a) Droobli is THE next huge thing to happen in the ecommerce world (see his DrDroobli videos on Youtube), b) Droobli will dwarf present ecommerce giants like Amazon & eBay, and c) thus everybody should get in NOW to gain HUGE profits in the next few years, he has also written an interesting article about how Droobli Business Associates can try to make some extra money on eBay….

      I wonder why Droobli Associates who will be all filthy rich within no time, would need to make some extra money on a site that’s gonna be wiped out soon by the Almighty Droobli

      Funny article:
      “How GroobLi Associates Can Make Money on eBay”
      By Daniel D.
      http://ezinearticles.com/?id=2789815

      “You’re currently a GroobLi Associate and you want to make some extra money on eBay to supplement your online auction income. You have your business set up, your name chosen; you’re signed up and registered. Now what do you need to be making money on eBay? [...]”

      This one is also funny:
      “How GroobLi and eBay Are Dominating Online Shopping”
      By Daniel D.
      http://ezinearticles.com/?id=2817849

      “[...]It’s hard to find any larger network on online shoppers than with GroobLi and eBay. Approximately two million items are added to these sites per day and more than nine million bids are placed [...]”

      Note the ‘Approximately two million items are added to these sites per day’ … too bad he doesn’t break down these figures for eBay and Droobli separately.

      I fear it would be something like ‘Approximately 1,999,997 items are added to eBay and approximately 3 items are added to Droobli daily’

      Other great articles from his pen are:

      “Prospecting Friends to Your GroobLi Business”
      http://ezinearticles.com/?id=2752563
      (or: how to lure people who trust me into this ‘business’?)

      “Tips on Motivating Yourself and Overcoming Obstacles in GroobLi”
      http://ezinearticles.com/?id=2752559
      (or: how do I avoid getting depressed when people run away screaming when I mention Droobli?)

1738. Comment by Bob | October 16th, 2009

      Kees,
      Not sure what you are looking at…I just checked that same TV, and shipping to Germany, France, United Kingdom, and Ireland is 10.95 18.95, 23.95, and 33.95 euros respectively.

      It says “5 points”.

      The closer to Germany you are the cheaper it is. GroobLi does not inflate the cost of shipping. It is based on Fed EX here in the US. Not sure what they use over there, but is looks good to me. Especially for a 32″ TV.

      I’ve still not seen anything at all about Droobli that indicates anything other than giving value to customers.

      Absolutely nothing.

1739. Comment by kees | October 16th, 2009

      Hi Bob, I’m located in the Netherlands and I’m looking at this one:

      http://eu.droobli.com/Toshiba-REGZA-32RV6365D-LCD-TV__5_13423
      General product information
      Offer cost: 1 Credit
      Shipping costs: 10 Points
      Manufacturer: Toshiba

      and this one:

      http://eu.droobli.com/Samsung-UE32B6000-LED-TV__5_13497
      General product information
      Offer cost: 1 Credit
      Shipping costs: 10 Points
      Manufacturer: Samsung

      clicking the “10 points” link I get:
      http://eu.droobli.com/Shipping-costs__do_shipping.html?show_shc_vkp=10

      with all those huge shipping costs…

1740. Comment by kees | October 16th, 2009

      and with huge shipping costs I mean:

      79.95 EUR – Germany
      86.95 EUR – Belgium
      89.95 EUR – Netherlands
      94.95 EUR – Austria
      94.95 EUR – Czech Republic
      97.95 EUR – Poland
      109.95 EUR – Slovakia
      111.95 EUR – Denmark
      111.95 EUR – Hungary
      130.95 EUR – Finland
      134.95 EUR – Latvia
      136.95 EUR – Estonia
      139.95 EUR – Italy
      147.95 EUR – Sweden
      148.95 EUR – Switzerland
      151.95 EUR – France
      159.95 EUR – Spain
      179.95 EUR – Norway
      182.95 EUR – Ireland
      189.95 EUR – Portugal
      192.95 EUR – Bulgaria
      225.95 EUR – United Kingdom
      234.95 EUR – Croatia
      234.95 EUR – Russian Federation
      305.95 EUR – Greece

1741. Comment by kees | October 16th, 2009

      What links are *you* using, Bob, to see the results you mention?

1742. Comment by Bob | October 16th, 2009

      Kees,
      I clicked on the 32″ Samsung TV (for 305 Euros in the European Portal), Xpress auction.

1743. Comment by Bob | October 16th, 2009

      The “Samsung Syncmaster 32 TV” On the front page is 5 shipping points; however I do see a couple of other TV’s that are 10 points?

      Does not make sense to have reasonable shipping on one TV and high shipping on another especially if they are the same size…good catch.

      I simply sent in a ticket asking if it was a mistake.
      Will keep you posted.

1744. Comment by kees | October 16th, 2009

      Well, then you’re seeing something different than I see… the 32″ Samsung TV I see started at 729 Euros…

      What’s the exact url you click?

1745. Comment by kees | October 16th, 2009

      What do others see when they click the link I provided? :

      http://eu.droobli.com/Samsung-UE32B6000-LED-TV__5_13497

      do you see this? :
      General product information
      Offer cost: 1 Credit
      Shipping costs: 10 Points
      Manufacturer: Samsung

      clicking the “10 points” link I get:
      http://eu.droobli.com/Shipping-costs__do_shipping.html?show_shc_vkp=10

      with those high shipping costs I pasted above

      Anyone get different results?

      (btw, bedtime for me now, will be back tomorrow, seeya)

1746. Comment by kees | October 16th, 2009

      Ah, okay, I see what you mean now, but that’s a 23″ TV, not a 32″

      Yep, that is only 5 shipping points, all the 32″ and above are 10 shipping points…

1747. Comment by Bob | October 16th, 2009

      Got it…and it is really only a monitor.
      Lets see what they have to say for themselves.

      The same 32″ TV in the US only costs $31.95 USD to ship a similar distance.

1748. Comment by Victor Hallmark | October 16th, 2009

      I want a refund.

      I got dubsized – watch out !

1749. Comment by Fred Hilton | October 16th, 2009

      Great guys. Keep clicking on Droobli sites. Every time you click each of us gets $10. That’s right. Droobli pays out
      $30, 000,000 every time one of you clicks, so keep clicking.

      Cash streams have become cash torrents. Droobli is now the biggest company on the planet. Bill Gates may come and work for Droobli one day. We’ll have Droobli schools, Droobli hospitals, Droobli toll roads. We’ll build bridges including the Alaska-Russia Bridge. Droobli will have the first mine on Mars. “Global is small thinking”. It’s all in the business model.

      Code no. 46278

1750. Comment by Bob | October 16th, 2009

      Fred exposed himself,

      How embarrassing!

1751. Comment by General beavis | October 17th, 2009

      New Droobli completed auction in Xpress section:

      $50 iTunes Voucher
      auction completed
      Value: $50.00
      Sold for: $0.25

      I’m sure the person who used an 80 cent credit to see the price when it was way up at 50 cents was disappointed that they didn’t time it right to get it 25 cents. And I can only imagine the disappointment of the previous to that one who spent 80 cents for a bid and the price was at the stratospheric price of 75 cents. You just have no choice but to hold out because Lord knows no one in their right mind would pay 75 cents to buy a $50 iTunes Voucher. That would be nuts. Don’t you agree, Bob, that that would be nuts?

1752. Comment by kees | October 17th, 2009

      Thanks for that very informative link, Only Facts!

      Everybody genuinely interested in MLM-like ‘businesses’, take a look there …. very revealing

      http://www.themlmfile.com.au/default.asp

      and

      http://www.themlmfile.com/page/story/

1753. Comment by General beavis | October 17th, 2009

      Droobli Center tracked this auction:

      type: xpress
      item: $100 MasterCard Gift Card selling price: $0

      I guess people kept spending their 80 cent tokens to view it until the fair market value of “nothing” was attained for this card. Or maybe. . . they just made the whole thing up. What do you think, Bob? Do you think Droobli sold the product for its’ full market value? What’s interesting is these items that supposedly sell for these ridiculously low prices reappear for auction on Droobli. It’s like they never left the Droobli warehouse. You wouldn’t think that Droobli would put an item up, let a few BA’s (their only real customers) peak at the price at the cost of their tokens causing a moderate drop in price and then Droobli steps in and, when nobody has peaked at the3 price for a day or so, makes up a winner at a giveaway price. Droobli would get to burn up BA’s credits that originally peaked, retain the product (if it exists) and gain bragging rights for having great deals. It even would increase the perceived auction traffic. But, wait, I’m rambling; that couldn’t possibly happen. I’m sure the price was honestly bid down to nothing because no one would ever buy a $100 MasterCard Gift Card that can be used almost anywhere like cash if it was priced higher than zero. I’m sure the BA’s that spent 80 cents to view the price realized that even if the price was under a buck that they should hold out longer for a better deal. You believe that, don’t you Bob? I know Gene does. Gene also believes in fairies and pixie dust , too. I’m sure there is a rational explanation for all of this. What is it, Bob?

1754. Comment by kees | October 17th, 2009

      And yet another question for Bob (or Gene, or any other Droobli fans)

      Bob, in comment 1192 (August 3rd) you wrote:
      ——————————————————————
      “Also at http://www.drooblinetwork.com/1-22/e-conomy_booming posted April 1, 2009, the second-to-last paragraph says, “Droobli.com’s select test market in Europe saw 2.3 million customers come in just eight months”,

      They had to reach a million customers before they were able to have the agreement with Kelkoo (a yahoo partner) Europe’s largest shopping search engine”
      ——————————————————————

      I notice there is no shopping portal anymore on the european Droobli site…. no Kelkoo to be seen either…. only Xpress and Unique Bid games…. what’s up with that?

      Does this mean Droobli has now less than 1 million customers?

      Will european Droobli Associates still get nice incomes with only a few european Xpress & Unique Bid auctions ending per week (for the whole of Europe)?

      Wasn’t the shopping portal supposed to be(come) the main money-maker for Droobli, with the auctions only as some kind of irresistible & funny gadgets to attract customers in the beginning?

      Where/what is the main money-maker now on the eu-Droobli site?

      Questions, questions, questions…..

1755. Comment by kees | October 17th, 2009

      Wow, Droobli GOLD Team leader position incl 1000 credits, available for only $500!
      http://www.answerpatrol.com/questions.php?cat=Droobli

      and BRONZE Business Associate spots incl 800 credits for only $100!
      http://bbleroy-droobli.blogspot.com/2009/10/bronze-business-associate-spots-in.html

      Normally, Bronze will cost you $795 and Gold even $3195!
      That is some discount indeed!

      But… if they can be bought on the 2nd hand market for so much less, it seems then that those positions aren’t in very high demand….?

      How can that be?

      Why would anyone sell their expensive investments for such ridiculously low prices?

      Bob, Gene, what’s happening?????

1756. Comment by kees | October 17th, 2009

      note:
      Normal costs for Bronze & Gold membership packages take from:
      http://reksal.com/Droobli/droobli_compensation_breakdown_per_packa.htm

1757. Comment by beavis, yes beavis | October 17th, 2009

      kees said:

      “Why would anyone sell their expensive investments for such ridiculously low prices?”

      Gee, kees, I don’t know either! You’d think they would at least use them on the fun and exciting auction site. For one 80 cent token they could get a $100 or even $200 MasterCard for nothing (provided those auctions really occur and/or aren’t rigged). It’s like they lost faith, ceased to believe and are no longer followers. It’s like they turned from people into DroobliSheep and are now morphing back again. It’s like they grew a brain. Bob, Gene; help us understand like only you two can!

1758. Comment by Bob | October 17th, 2009

      Kees,
      The same thing that happens when someone buys a franchise, and does not train and educate themselves how to make a profit.

      They do not open the doors to the public, eventually spend the credits (inventory) and give it away.

      There will always be a small percentage of people who do not get connected.

      No big secret.

      Again:

      Does a customer benefit from the value offered from GroobLi?

      That is the only thing I wanted to know.

      I personally save a lot of money using the site, and most of my customers do as well.

      Not sure what is happening with the EU site, But I know they are re-doing it.

      Droobli has had a history of experiencing, and anticipating the changes in the market…we will see the new EU site soon.

1759. Comment by beavis being beavis | October 17th, 2009

      bob said:

      “we will see the new EU site soon.”

      Holy shit! It’s another launch! Tell us, Bob, tell us! When will the new launch be? I’m so beside myself that I’m giddy because Droobli is going to have another launch that will make everything all right! Hooray!

1760. Comment by beavis being beavis | October 17th, 2009

      Do I come off as condescending?

1761. Comment by kees | October 18th, 2009

      Beavis: yes

      Bob: I’ll be eagerly awaiting the *new* EU site

      In the meanwhile on the *current* Droobli EU site:

      Completed auction for the Philips 37 PFL 8404 H/12 LCD TV
      http://eu.droobli.com/Philips-37-PFL-8404-H-12-LCD-TV__5e_13416

      Sold for: 710,40€
      Start price: 740,00€
      Successful bidder:
      200876141647170

      Let’s assume bidder “200876141647170″ lives in Germany (that has the cheapest shipping costs for this TV):
      Shipping costs Germany: 79.95 Euro

      Total price for this TV on Droobli (if the buyer lives in Germany): 710.40 + 79.95 = 790.35 Eur
      + an unkown number of credits spent

      (A buyer in the UK would have to pay 225.95 Eur shipping costs to get this TV, and a buyer in Greece would have to cough up a staggering 305.95 Eur to get this TV shipped)

      ========================================
      In the meanwhile elsewhere on the web:

      Philips 37 PFL 8404 H/12 Hochgl.-Schw. LCD TV, Full HD, 100Hz, DVB-T + DVB-C

      http://www.t-online-shop.de/tonline/navigation.do?action=ShowProduct&ref=digitalleben&productId=55196

      729 Eur with ZERO shipping costs

      or:
      Philips 37PFL8404 LCD-TV

      http://www.energeto.de/katalog/ctl4251/cp25451/si4068100/cl/PHI378404?cid=201

      675 Eur with 49.99 Eur shipping costs = 724.99 Eur total

      Remember: the lucky buyer on Droobli paid at least 790.35 Eur…

      You do the math

1762. Comment by Shaun "Due Diligence" Premo | October 18th, 2009

      This is my last post. I realize there is no point trying to warn people about Droobli. It’s like telling someone to stop smoking. A certain class or type of person is always drawn to crap like Droobli. Despite everything in their lives pointing otherwise, the drooblidiots still believe streams of cash will flow. No experience necessary. Bobby Jensen knows the type of person drawn to Droobli. I would suggest it is the person with very little education and not much in the way of critical thinking. Also, they have to be extremely greedy to so obviously use and abuse their family members by haranguing them about Droobli.

      And guess what? There are millions of these idiots just waiting for the droobli spin to deceive and confuse them. I guess Bobby Jensen just loves the phrase “there’s a sucker born every minute”.

      I’m tired now. None of these morons will do their “due diligence” yet all will claim they did. Dumb and dumber deserve droobli.

1763. Comment by beavis being beavis | October 18th, 2009

      Besides the shopping portal no longer on the EU site I guess the “Zero” auction is gone, too, on both the EU and US sites. What is that “water being sucked down a drain” sound I’m hearing?

1764. Comment by beavis being beavis | October 18th, 2009

      1. Offshore bank accounts – check
      2. Shell corporations spread throughout the world – check
      3. Fake auction traffic – check
      4. Business Associates trying to offload their credits – check
      5. Features being deprecated from website – check
      6. Bob the Sheep and Gene the Village Drooblidiot quitting – uncheck

1765. Comment by kees | October 19th, 2009

      Bob, I’m in the market for a new Nikon Coolpix digital camera, 5 megapix would be fine, but maybe they’re only selling 9 or 10 or even higher megapix cameras now.

      Since the shopping portal has vanished from the EU Droobli site, I would like to be able to do a direct search for “Nikon coolpix” on the US Droobli shopping portal (not in the Xpress or Unique Bid games, I don’t have time for games) …

      but: where is the search engine?

      I clicked the “Shopping” thingy on us.droobli.com and got here:
      http://us.droobli.com/index.php?cid=lp.partner-bsp&BArefno=

      But: No search engine?

      I don’t want to browse all the shops/merchants/stores or other links to see if can locate what I want, I don’t have time for that either, I just need a simple and effective search engine that can show me fast & straight anything it has about “Nikon coolpix”.

      How do I do that?

      Google, Amazon & Ebay will give me thousands of relevant results *very* fast, why can’t Droobli do this?

1766. Comment by Gene | October 19th, 2009

      Oh beav you don’t seem to like me too much! You are still living up to your parrot thing. No respect, lots of credentials and an incomplete character or just an acter.
      In the Cesspool. Get a life man.

1767. Comment by Rod | October 19th, 2009

      Hi all…
      I find all of this discussion truly fascinating, and regardless of how wonderful (or otherwise) droobli is, I can’t help but wonder…
      Who is actually being helped in this scheme?
      I mean, other than a consumerist society obsessed with possessions?
      And is it really helping? How does it make life better for people in oppressed countries? How does it tackle real issues like poverty, racism, violence, and climate change?
      I’m confused by the number of people who see no conflict between their religious beliefs and the idea of selling consumer-credits that do little more than perpetuate the injustice of those who ‘have’ and those who do not.
      Honestly, do you think God cares more about HIV orphans in Uganda, or whether or not you got a good deal on an iPod?
      Thanks eaglescout for your relevant and convicting comments – nice work.
      Shop wisely, people.

1768. Comment by kees | October 19th, 2009

      OMG, they can’t even implement a proper searching engine on the US shopping portal, or on the EU site even a shopping portal at all, but now they’re planning to create some sort of an ultimate wet dream (I guess…?) for wannabe millionaires?

      “GroobLi Land – An Elite Development For VPs and Sr. VPs”
      http://www.duba2z.com/cayman.html

      “Droobli has purchased a large track of land in the Cayman Brac to be named Droobli Land. The lots will be awarded to those Droobli Associates who reach the level of Vice President and Senior Vice President. This is unprecedented and is causing a tremendous buzz throughout the industry. The video below will appear in a national ad campaign by Droobli as they create the brand recognition throughout North America.”

      When will the fun ever stop?

1769. Comment by beavis being beavis | October 19th, 2009

      Who am I “parroting” Gene? You are the one repeating Drooblispeak webinars. And it isn’t that I don’t like you it is that you keep clinging to this lost hope called Droobli and continue to recruit for them. You’ve been presented with a wealth of information that would make a sane man run from them; instead you cling to the hope for wealth that MLM schemes seem to offer but rarely deliver. Seriously; offshore bank accounts; grossly inflated figures for customer base and recruitment; fake auction traffic; ludicrous statements such as they spent “$100,000,000 on software”, “the next eBay”, “the next Amazon”; a manufactured currency (“credits”) with onerous redemption policies; a history of “launches” with results that could only be described as a failure; and when all else fails (which it has) they tell you that viral marketing will magically appear and make you rich. Here is the truth, Gene; the Droobli auctions are not drawing insignificant traffic; the mall, which depends on the auction as a draw, is failing due to a lack of customer base; income in Droobli, at least that of any significance, is drawn on recruitment making it a pyramid of the worst sort. You need to quit this.

1770. Comment by kees | October 19th, 2009

      “GroobLi Land for Top GroobLi Leaders”
      Thursday, September 10th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
      http://www.incomeauction.com/2009/09/10/droobli-associates-in-droobli-land/

      “Recently, at the GroobLi leadership conference in Miami, there was a major announcement regarding a real estate development in the Cayman Islands. and it’s future impact on GroobLi leaders. It was further clarified in the GroobLi newsletter.

      Envision a multi-million dollar private development on an isolated island with stunning custom villas and located in one of the most treasured places the Caribbean where the only residents will be VP’s and SVP’s. Would that be cool or what? One of the highlights from the Miami conference was the introduction of GroobLi Land located in beautiful Cayman Brac a small isolated island which is part of the Cayman Islands. GroobLi purchased a large parcel of land and will soon begin development. There will be several floor plans to choose from and the minimum size for a villa will be 5,000 square feet. GroobLi will also provide the financing for all eligible VP’s and SVP’s. The company surprised Dean Mannheimer and Tom Ashlock, VP’s with GroobLi with their very own parcel in GroobLi Land for FREE.

      “The Great Land Give-A-Way” is open to all North and South American BA’s who qualify for VP by December 31, 2009. Here’s an opportunity to earn your very own parcel of land in GroobLi Land for free…there’s still plenty of time to pull out all the stops by the year’s end; so get qualified as a VP and soon you’ll be basking in your own private piece of paradise on Cayman Brac.”

      

1771. Comment by kees | October 19th, 2009

      Btw, interesting shipping costs again, this time for a 21.95 EUR item:

      Xpress Auction for “UCI Fun Box”
      http://eu.droobli.com/UCI-Fun-Box__5_13451
      —————————————————————————
      UCI Fun Box – 2x Movie Vouchers and 2x Bar Vouchers

      Experience an enthralling movie night with a person of your choice at a UCI cinema in Germany or Austria with the UCI Fun Box. Inside the Fun Box, which is shaped like an old-fashioned film container, you will find two movie vouchers and two 4-euro bar vouchers for drinks and food.

      The vouchers are to be redeemed by June 30, 2011 at a UCI cinema in Germany or Austria, excluding 3D movies and special events.

      Includes

      * UCI Fun Box

      Start price: 21.95 EUR
      Shipping costs: 1 Points
      —————————————————————————

      “1 point” shipping costs means:

      6.95 EUR – Germany
      9.95 EUR – Belgium
      9.95 EUR – Netherlands
      9.95 EUR – Austria
      9.95 EUR – Denmark
      10.95 EUR – France
      11.95 EUR – Switzerland
      15.95 EUR – Italy
      17.95 EUR – United Kingdom
      17.95 EUR – Czech Republic
      19.95 EUR – Sweden
      19.95 EUR – Spain
      20.95 EUR – Poland
      20.95 EUR – Hungary
      20.95 EUR – Norway
      22.95 EUR – Finland
      23.95 EUR – Ireland
      23.95 EUR – Estonia
      24.95 EUR – Portugal
      24.95 EUR – Latvia
      28.95 EUR – Slovakia
      30.95 EUR – Greece
      38.95 EUR – Malta
      54.95 EUR – Bulgaria
      64.95 EUR – Croatia
      65.95 EUR – Russian Federation
      65.95 EUR – Ukraine
      98.95 EUR – Kazakhstan

      Mmmm, pretty difficult to get a ‘bargain’ with such shipping costs for an item worth 21.95 EUR

1772. Comment by kees | October 19th, 2009

      Also “1 point” shipping costs for:

      “Barbie and the Diamond Castle (CD)”
      http://eu.droobli.com/Barbie-and-the-Diamond-Castle-CD__5_13502

      Start price: 5.50 EUR

      Shipping costs: from 6.95 EUR (Germany) up to 98.95 EUR (Khazakhstan)

      Nice …

1773. Comment by Rev. beavis | October 19th, 2009

      kees,

      So I guess when Droobli shuts the doors “Droobli Land” is where the corporate brass will scamper off to. How convenient that it is an offshore banking haven with immunity from foreign courts and tax authorities.

1774. Comment by kees | October 19th, 2009

      Yeah Beavis, they seem to like islands

      Btw, any time now the big launch on the Australian & New Zealand islands will happen, exciting!

      ..well, actually rather sad for a whole new bunch of people who will lose their money

1775. Comment by Rev. beavis | October 19th, 2009

      Judging from the lack of momentum I don’t think the damage will be too bad. Droobli’s reputation is getting trashed and with the recent revelations regarding shipping costs and questionable auction results I don’t expect it to improve. They are struggling to pull a rabbit out of their ass and their isn’t one to be found.

1776. Comment by Jack Daddy | October 19th, 2009

      Only The Facts mentioned a method of recouping your initial investment.

      I’d like to do this before it is too late.

      I have a bronze package/membership and am located in Australia.

1777. Comment by Only Facts | October 19th, 2009

      Jack Daddy
      Refer to comment 1710. You really shouldn’t have any problems. However if you do after following everything I have said, I will help more. Remember a viral campaign can work both ways. I am sure you would know others that this person has signed up.

      Bob.
      I can now see that you are more interested in the retail aspect of the company rather than the selling of packages. On that I congradulate you. However please be carful. One works hand in hand with the other. I cannot see any savings to be made now or long term.

1778. Comment by kees | October 19th, 2009

      Jack Daddy, have you contacted the ACCC (http://www.accc.gov.au)?
      Maybe they can help or advise you as well in this?

      They seem to be willing to listen to consumers, as they have in the past when eBay tried to push their “Paypal-only” policy, only to get a slap on the wrist from the ACCC…

      Good luck, I hope you can get your money back.

1779. Comment by kees | October 19th, 2009

      Regarding Droobli’s European shipping costs (see my earlier posts) versus what it would cost *me* (located in the Netherlands, private person, without any shipping account or discount) to ship through insured & signed-upon-receipt postal service:

      If I use our national TNT postal service (not known to be the cheapest around ):

      To ship a CD or DVD inside Europe would cost *me* 7.70 Eur
      (Droobli wants 6.95 Eur for Germany up to 98.95 Eur for Kazakhstan)

      To ship a 32″ TV (typically weighing up to 20 kilos, incl package materials) inside Europe would cost *me* 34.10 Eur up to 39.80 Eur
      (Droobli wants 79.95 Eur (Germany) up to 305.95 Eur (Greece))

      Here are some weights & prices for insured postal service shipped from the Netherlands;
      compare these to some of the Droobli shipping costs I have highlighted earlier:

      TNT, intra-Europe, shipped from Netherlands:

      Small packages – insured & “sign for receipt”
      weight Europe
      0 – 0.5 kilo 7.70 Eur
      0.5 – 2 12.32 Eur

      Packages – insured & “sign for receipt”
      weight Europe zone 1 — Europe zone 2
      0 – 2 kilo 13.10 Eur 18.80 Eur
      2 – 5 19.50 24.50
      5 – 10 25.20 30.80
      10 – 20 34.10 39.80
      20 – 30 34.10 39.80

      Conclusion: I can ship it cheaper than “e-commerce giant” Droobli will … how strange,eh?

1780. Comment by Bob | October 20th, 2009

      Wow!

      You guys are buried in this garbage, and I am enjoying many customers saving money, (and telling their friends).

      Sad for all the naysayers out there.

      Question:
      Is it good for the customer or not?

      Most of my customers enjoy, for example, and endless supply of 60% off gift certificates at their favorite local restaurants.

      That is the tip of the ice burg!

      Do you not know that the auctions are the doorway to all of the savings in the DublI portal?

      Take a look…

1781. Comment by Gary | October 20th, 2009

      Bob,

      I’m sure your a good man and mean well but lets face it, the portal is really lame! You can’t be serious can you? As someone mentioned recently the portal in Europe has been shut down. So how do you save money if you live in Europe? I love your enthusiasm but dont let it blind the truth.

1782. Comment by Aaron | October 20th, 2009

      i am a droobli BA. and i have just left my normal working job cause everyone i have talked to love droobli and can see the bigger picture. there will always be people that cant see it. i really pitty them. this is a system where everyone is happy and also i am in australia where it is not even out for another month yet. there will allways be negitive people and well crabs in a bucket to say the least. also my legs in aus are the fastest growing in the country. and i am only 26. so i am with bob on this.

1783. Comment by kees | October 20th, 2009

      Hi again Bob, I’m glad you’re doing well and enjoying the money-saving of your customers.

      But I hope you don’t have any customers living in Mexico because they’ll have a hard time doing some money-saving on Droobli, with these shipping costs:

      Mexico
      Shipping points
      Shipping costs
      0 1 2 3 4 5
      $0.00 $67.95 $88.95 $111.95 $150.95 $182.95
      6 7 8 9 10
      $209.95 $235.95 $263.95 $285.95 n/a

      I mean, $67.95 to get a gift card shipped?
      Well, I guess *someone* saves a lot of money by charging these shipping prices, but I fear it won’t be the Mexican winning bidders.

      Btw, did you find out why the shipping prices for 32″ TVs on the EU Droobli site are so extremely high?

      And what’s the news on the vanished shopping portal?

      Be careful out there, Bob

1784. Comment by Gary | October 21st, 2009

      Aaron,

      Good for you but let us know how much money you make once the pyramid stuff winds down? It’s always wise to do your research especially with stuff like this. If you have a spare couple of hours read this forum. I wouldn’t be quitting my day job yet..

1785. Comment by Only Facts | October 21st, 2009

      Aaron

      I rarely set out to be personal about posts and or people on this site. So to you, I will say very little. Except, you are full of it. You are the 6th person in 2 weeks to claim that in Australia you are the fastest growing. Either say something of substance or go away and enjoy your unemployment. I am sure your friends at Centrelink are wrapped in Droobli.

      Bob.

      You asked ” Is it good for the customer or not” I would have to say not.

      For those people that are paying for over priced shipping, obviously not.

      For those friends of yours with restaurant vouchers, it’s neither here nor there. There are so many options with restaurants. 2 for 1 deals, kids eat free, half priced lunches, restaurant booklets (which would actually be a better deal), trade exchanges and so on. Being involved in the industry I can tell you only a small percentage of customers ever pay full price. This is one of the reasons margins are so high. Also with all of these deals, and I am absolutely sure it would be the same with the Droobli vouchers, you get smaller portions, more often that not more expensive drinks and there are limitations on when you can use them. However, all that aside it appears that with Droobli someone gets ripped off so another can get a bargain. If this doesn’t concern you just ask yourself when is it your turned to be ripped. I would also like to know how these friends actually buy these vouchers. Do they have to go through you or your web site or do they just go directly to the shopping porthole?

      A lot has been said in regard to Dr Charles King legitimising Droobli. Comments such as “he would not risk his reputation on a scam…..” Please look at these sites.

      http://www.vitalhealthnews.org/oct2003/drking/index.html

      At the bottom of this page it will give you the option of going to his website which is

      http://www.netwkmarketing.com/

      On the left of the page it promotes Monavie. For those not familiar with this company Wiki it you will get a shock. Why would anyone promote this product, let alone a person trying to protect a reputation???????

1786. Comment by Student ID | October 21st, 2009

      Hey Only Facts

      Are you the same man who spoke at BU on the GC last month? If so Droobli better watch out. I read this guys Bio and he has taken down a lot bigger organisations than this little cottage industry. We are currently undertaking our major yearly assignment. The subject is marketing through deception, and at the suggestion of the speaker I have chosen Droobli. Boy am I glad I did. There is so much subject matter. How can anyone really go near this company? The people……The lack of any legitimate information…. The lies…… even the basic concept. Some people just should flush their money. Beavs and Gene. Can I add that you both are celebrities here at BU but for different reasons.

1787. Comment by Jack Daddy | October 22nd, 2009

      So MonaVie is no good, OTF?

      I had someone who, from what I can gather, is a very accomplished MLMer, contact me regarding MonaVie and would I be interested in becoming part of it?

      Seems a little like USANA Health Products? Anyone know about USANA?

1788. Comment by kees | October 22nd, 2009

      do a search for Usana on ’scam dot com’ in the ‘MLM/Pyramid Scams’ subforum, there is a 20 page thread starting in 2004 up to Sept/Oct 2009

1789. Comment by Eugene | October 22nd, 2009

      Student ID:

      I would be very interested in seeing your report when it’s done. Good luck!

1790. Comment by Gary | October 22nd, 2009

      Student ID

      Good stuff!

      Is there anyway I can follow your progress? There are so many people being robbed by the hype and subsequent lies. People deserve to know the cold hard facts of what Droobli really is. I’ve tried to warn people but they are so brainwashed it’s cultish and very sad! So yes student ID I believe you can make a big impact with your assignment..

1791. Comment by kees | October 22nd, 2009

      Another staggeringly busy & prosperous day at US Droobli with millions of customers enjoying the ending of …. errrr…. 12 auctions…????

      see “Droobli Auction Results Review | Oct 21, 2009″
      http://www.drooblicenter.com/

      12 auctions for the whole of North America???

      Start price total for the 12 items = $1683
      Sold for price total = $1264
      Total credits-value spent to accomplish this: aprox $1341 (or less if many Unique Bid auctions were involved)

      Total income for Droobli on these 12 items: $1264 + $1341 = $2605

      Profit for Droobli in one day for the North American Droobli auctions: $$2605 – $1683 = $922, but probably somewhat more because the ’start prices’ wouldn’t be the prices Droobli paid for the merchandize, and also Droobli seems to make a profit on the shipping costs.

      So let’s be generous and say that Droobli’s profit on these 12 auctions was maybe $1500, or even $2000.

      For 1 person or even a small business this would be quite a handsome profit, however for an alleged multi-million dollar company with supposedly millions of “fun shop loving” customers this of course is a rather sad performance.

      I wonder how much click-through income the poor shopping mall, without even a simple & effective search engine, gathers, however.

      But then Droobli Europe doesn’t even have a shopping mall anymore, and also the ammount of daily auctions ending there is even lower than for Droobli North America.

      If I were a Business Associate I would be very worried.

      Droobli EU seems dead.
      Droobli US seems barely breathing.

      Ozzies, are you listening?

1792. Comment by Aaron | October 22nd, 2009

      well i am back and prob for the last time. i was just doing more research when i came across this crap. most of the people on here will never see the big picture. if pyrimids are so wrong and against the law, what do u call a normal job where the employer works for the boss and the boss makes all the profit??? and another thing i have never gone near a centrelink office in my life. anyways if people want the facts do some quality research, and also if droobli is so bad, i have had a few of the biggest barristers sign up and they have spent weeks doing research on droobli. so am not going to argue or put thee truth on here about droobli cause well fir the name sake of the website it will just get spun out of control.

      i wish everyone the best and i will be looking down at you from the top

      Regards
      Aaron

1793. Comment by kees | October 22nd, 2009

      A few of the biggest barristers signed up no less?

      Ever heard of Bernard Maddoff?
      Do you know who some of his “sign-ups” were?

      See:
      “Madoff client list peppered with big names”
      http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSBNG33445920090205

      Of course if THOSE people gave their money to Maddoff it would’ve been impossible for him to NOT be totally honest, right?

      Have fun at “the top” Aaron, & take care.

1794. Comment by Em | October 22nd, 2009

      Aaron – the difference with working in a company is that you get sick leave, holiday pay, and a guaranteed income every week (or fortnight) whether you’re being productive or not.
      The big bosses are being paid the big money, so what at least the people down the line are getting money too – unlike these MLM where the people at the top get the money and the ones at the bottom just misery and suffering.
      Nuff said, I hope australians are smarter than that… US droobli website atm has 240 items for sale after being on the market for what, over 3 years? Ebay shake in your boots all right… lol, idiots.

1795. Comment by justabigjoke | October 22nd, 2009

      Only Facts..

      Its Portal you fucking idiot not Porthole.

      Most of these posts are in terrible English.

1796. Comment by Only Facts | October 22nd, 2009

      Student ID

      No comment on the grounds of anonymity, and thank you for not using my name…..sorry his name.

      Jack Daddy.

      As always I urge you to look at the evidence and make up your own mind in regard to MonaVie. However they have been sued, and lost, more times than can be counted and in return have sued and lost more times than they can count. My god even by Oprah!!!!!!

      USANA have good products much like Amway, however they suffer greatly through market saturation like Amway. I have bought some of their products and have been happy, but not as a continual returning customer for a simply and basic reason. This is the problem with companies such as this.

      For example I purchase an environmentally friendly 5 litre floor cleaner. It works well and is a reasonable price. I buy the product through a parent at my Childs school. All good so far. One day I go to mop the floors and I have run out of product. Do I;

      a: Contact the USANA rep place an order and wait several days until my order arrives? or

      b: Duck down the shops and buy floor cleaner?

      USANA had a lot of negativity surrounding it when it listed on the stock exchange. This was generated by one man who made a living by investing in companies with falling share prices, so he generated the bad publicity. It has since been proven incorrect and their share price is progressing very well.As you may have notice I am not a fan of MLM’s in general. There are lot more productive and positive ways to make money. There’s an old saying, never go into business with family or friends. There is a very good reason for that. MLM’s are based on doing business with family and friends.

      Aaron

      PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Time to go now.

1797. Comment by kees | October 23rd, 2009

      Nice money-saving bargain on eBay.com:

      # “Droobli Credits- 25% off- 50 credits only $30!!”
      see listing 180419863376 (put the number in eBay’s search box)

      listing started: October 14
      ending: November 13

      “more than 10 available” –> that’s more than 500 credits available at a 25% discount, let’s see how fast this seller will be able to sell them, must be pretty quick with all the millions of enthousiastic customers Droobli has!

1798. Comment by kees | October 23rd, 2009

      and another succesful Droobli Business Associate cashes in on his investments:

      “Droobli Business For Sale”
      “A Complete Droobli Business – including Blog 4 Top Level Domains and A Business Associate Membership ( Bronze Level) that includes 599 Droobli Credits to go”
      http://www.whynotad.com/advertising/droobli-business-for-sale

      Oh Wow, sold for $600, congrats!

1799. Comment by Drats | October 23rd, 2009

      …but what about my dreams of being able to work from a lap top anywhere in the world and becoming so independently wealthy that I can afford a sex life?! Oh man, this site is such a kick in the balls! You bastard wet dream killer!

      I guess I’m glad I found it before I put $3000 on my new credit card at >16% though. Huh, I lost the same amount once to a hot Ukrainian photo on singles site!

      NB: there is a plethora of Droobli Biz Affiliate adverts posted on ‘Australian Job Search’. This is the largest job site in Australia and operated by no less than the Australian Government! Maybe the gov department responsible should do some due diligence before allowing such Drooblious opportunities to be advertised on their website…

1800. Comment by kees | October 24th, 2009

      Btw, here’s a strange thing I noticed with completed EU Droobli Xpress auctions:

      Potential buyers click and spent a ‘Droobli credit’ to lower the price by 20 Euro-cents per click. So the ’start prices’ of the auction items can only be lowered by multiples of 20 cents.

      However, in the completed Xpress auctions section
      http://eu.droobli.com/Completed-auctions__xpress_ended.html
      there are quite some (start) prices shown that make it impossible to end at the alleged ’sold for’ prices when multiples of 20 cents would be substracted.

      Examples:
      Nintendo DSi Black
      Start price: 151.50 Eur
      Sold for: 127.40 Eur

      a sequence of 20-cent substractions would go like:
      151.50 –> 151.30 –> 151.10 –> 150.90 –> 150.70 –> 150.50 –> 150.30 –> etc.
      A price of xxx.40 would be impossible to reach with steps of 20 cents

      More examples of sold-for prices that are impossible to reach with price-decreasing-steps of 20 cents:

      Krups Nescafe Dolce Gusto
      Start pirice: 97.50 Eur
      Sold for: 88.60 Eur

      Philips Senseo Quadrante
      Start price: 77.50 Eur
      Sold for: 71.60

      WoWee Robopet
      Start price: 44.99 Eur
      Sold for: 30.60 Eur

      Casio Exilim EX-H10
      Start price: 247.99 Eur
      Sold for: 234.80 Eur

      Joop! Fashion Towel Set, black
      Start price: 33.90 Eur
      Sold for: 32.20 Eur

      Lego – Thomas & Friends
      Start price: 31.99 Eur
      Sold for: 27.60 Eur

      Wii SportsResort and Wii MotionPlus
      Start price: 38.99 Eur
      Sold for: 35.20 Eur

      Wii Balanceboard
      Start price: 69.90
      Sold for: 64.80

      Wii SportsResort and Wii MotionPlus
      Start price: 38.99 Eur
      Sold for: 35.00 Eur

      Sony HDR-TG7 Camcorder
      Start price: 579.99 Eur
      Sold for: 521.60 Eur

      Elgato TV Tuner
      Start price: 89.90 Eur
      Sold for: 78.20 Eur

      Games console Xbox 360 Elite
      Start price: 233.99 Eur
      Sold for: 0.00 Eur (mmm, nobody was interested to buy it for a few dimes, or even a few euros? Not likely)

      Apple Mac mini 120GB
      Start price: 551.99 Eur
      Sold for: 493.20 Eur

      Nintendo DSi Black
      Start price: 151.50 Eur
      Sold for: 127.80 Eur

      Nintendo DSi white
      Start price: 304.99 Eur
      Sold for: 0.20 Eur (mmm, nobody was interested to buy it for a few dimes more, or even a few euros? Not likely)

      Apple iPod shuffle 3G silver
      Start price: 61.50 Eur
      Sold for: 29.60 Eur

      Wii Balanceboard
      Start price: 69.90 Eur
      Sold for: 48.40 Eur

      Iomega Prestige External Hard Drive 1TB
      Start price: 79.90 Eur
      Sold for: 75.40 Eur

      Apple iPod nano 16GB, blue
      Start price: 156.50 Eur
      Sold for: 0.00 Eur (mmm, nobody was interested to buy it for a few dimes, or even a few euros? Not likely)

      TomTom Go 940 Live HD Traffic
      Start price: 327.50 Eur
      Sold for: 282.00 Eur

      and so on….

      Something’s not quite right there, Droobli…

1801. Comment by Bob | October 24th, 2009

      Kees,
      I happened to glance in here and noticed what you just said.
      The only thing silly is that there seems to be a misunderstanding of how it works.

      Hopefully this will help.
      Obviously the first bid needs to bring it to an equal division of 20 cents first, thereby allowing every bid to always fall on 20-40-60-80-00 thereafter.

      To solve any curiosity about what is going on in the EU you should send in a support ticket. That’s what most people do who have questions.

      Corporate is the only source for true information.
      If you did so, (or was a customer who gets regular updates), you would know they are re-doing the EU site to be more like the US site, since all of the customers over there wanted something more like what we have in the US.

      They are also working on an amazing global shipping option to any country in the world with the New Global Platform coming in a few months. Hang in there.

      It is obvious if you look at the history over the past few years, that they are continually learning, and making improvements to best serve the customer, as that is their goal.

      Without that they would not have any future.
      You can look in the web archives to judge for yourself if you think Droobli is moving forward in development or backwards:

      http://web.archive.org/web/*/droobli.com

      You can then compare any website, Google, Facebook, or whatever you wish. They all go through stages of development. They start with an idea, and continually make improvements.

      If web based companies do not learn as they go, and continually adjust based on the customer response they will not be around for too long. Just like anything else in nature.

      One more note:
      The success rate of brick and mortar businesses (restaurants for example)is quite low. To point out a few GroobLi store owners who did not know how to make a profit with thier business does not really proove a point, but mereley brings one up.

      Here is an example of a successful one to level the playing field:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waqDdXQfUwU

      Cheers

1802. Comment by kees | October 24th, 2009

      Hi there Bob, a few replies on some of your comments if you allow me

      you said:
      “The only thing silly is that there seems to be a misunderstanding of how it works”

      How it works is described on the Droobli website:
      here:
      http://eu.droobli.com/How-does-it-work__do_howitworks.html :
      —————————————————————————-
      “Xpress
      All articles are displayed with one start price that is valid at the outset of an auction. The actual price is concealed until you place a Credit. With each Credit placed, the price decreases, so the actual price is always less than the start price – often considerably!

      As soon as you have registered, you can buy Credits various packages (see above).

      When you place a Credit, three things happen:

      1. The actual price decreases by 20 cents
      2. The current price will be displayed to you
      3. You now have the possibility of purchasing the product for the price shown”
      —————————————————————————-

      and in the General Business Terms and Conditions
      http://eu.droobli.com/info/13-GTC :
      —————————————————————————-
      “§ 6 ”Xpress” Auction Procedure

      (1) Auctions that run under the category “Xpress” are placed with a pre-determined start price. Each valid price is determined by participants and remains hidden. Each participant can view the actual purchase price at any time, thus reducing the price (each time it is disclosed) by € 0.20 (twenty euro cents). The fee for the disclosure of the price is determined by the fee at the time of viewing: currently it amounts to one Credit. The fee is debited to the Credits account of the participant at the time of the viewing of the actual price. The auction concludes upon the initiation of the purchase process by a participant through the clicking of the “BUY NOW” button. The participant who first activates the “BUY NOW” button is the winner. All previous Credits used to disclose and reduce the sale price are no longer valid. The purchase price for all Credits used in revealing and reducing the sales price are not refunded. Additionally, the rules found under “How it works” also apply. The participant declares that s/he has read and fully comprehended these regulations and is in agreement with them.”
      —————————————————————————-

      you said:
      “Hopefully this will help.”

      The info on the site does help. It describes the price getting reduced 20 cents per click, just like I said.

      you said:
      “Obviously the first bid needs to bring it to an equal division of 20 cents first, thereby allowing every bid to always fall on 20-40-60-80-00 thereafter.”

      That’s nowhere mentioned in the official links & info I quoted above, so I don’t agree that your guess is so obvious.

      you said:
      “Corporate is the only source for true information.”

      I used the corporate information I found in the links I quoted above, so that should be allright then.

      you said:
      “To solve any curiosity about what is going on in the EU you should send in a support ticket. That’s what most people do who have questions.”

      I might do that indeed, thanks for the suggestion.

      you said:
      “all of the customers over there wanted something more like what we have in the US”

      The US and EU site are identical in set-up. The only differences are that recently the shopping portal has vanished from the EU site while it is still available on the US site. Also I notice that the US site is much slower than the EU site.
      I don’t understand then what you mean by customers over here wanting more like what you have in the US…

      you said:
      “You can look in the web archives to judge for yourself if you think Droobli is moving forward in development or backwards:

      http://web.archive.org/web/*/droobli.com ”

      Yeah, I know the wayback machine archive, great site
      And I had been venturing around there a bit already.

      But I’m more interested in what early customers, business associates and mlm enthousiasts on some German forums/boards I found, had to say about Droobli EU way back in 2006, 2007 and 2008 – you know the era of the alleged “huge success” and “proven concept” of Droobli in Europe, with “over 2 million happy customers”

      Very interesting stuff, probably I’ll share it here some day soon – but first I’ll have to help google translate a bit for all the non-german readers here.

      you said:
      “If web based companies do not learn as they go, and continually adjust based on the customer response they will not be around for too long.”

      Agreed

      you said:
      “Here is an example of a successful one to level the playing field:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waqDdXQfUwU ”

      I wish this lovely family all the best in the world and I think it’s commendable that they have set up a site that will hopefully bring in money to their charity.

      It’s a pitty though that such a commendable charity setup had to cost this family the “initial private label setup fee of $1,595″. That’s money already lost for the charity. And each year another $225 will be lost for charity in “annual renewal fee”. (ref. http://www.site.85021llc.com/uploads/Partner_Program_Contract.pdf )

      That’s an awful lot of money for the use of some software and server capacity….

      Also, when I hear the man saying “… and it’s all a rage over there in Europe…” (referring to Droobli EU) I think he has only listened to the rumors about succes the Droobli management is spreading, but hasn’t really looked into the actual non Droobli-provided facts & figures, as far as they can be found amidst all the propaganda spewed out all over the web by Droobli B.A’s.
      Also I’m sure he hasn’t read any of the comments about Droobli EU of the german customers and mlm enthousiastics over the past years that I’ve found.

      Anyway, we’ll see where it all goes with Droobli.
      I’m eager to see how the ‘Ozzie’ launch will play out.

      See you Bob

1803. Comment by Bob | October 24th, 2009

      Kees,
      Actually the Partner Program only costs $199. USD per year, not $1,595. That contract is way old.

      http://www.GroobLiPartner.com

      The Droobli Partner program is one of my favorite things about the business model. It allows a potential partner a very easy way to raise money for their organization with hardly any cost or risk. Thus giving their valued members a way to give to their non profit by saving money (the partner gets 30% if the revenue share).

      In addition the existing members tell their friends, and the mission statement/exposure of the non profit virally grows.

      I don’t think it is a big deal that they do not articulate the fact that the first price drop might be less than 20 cents to arrive at the fist actual 20 cent increment is a very big deal. But if it is, maybe they will learn, and always start the price at an even increment.

      As you said we will see how some other things develop.

      Based on what I have seen, I think they are headed in the right direction. Glad to have a growing, and happy customer, and partner program base here is the US.

1804. Comment by Philthy Phil | October 24th, 2009

      I had a look at the ‘way back’ site and typed in Drooblinetwork.com.

      That ‘degrading’ part is a little worrying. If you fall behind, they let you know and subsequently let your upline sponsor know.

      Putting much pressure on either of you to fork out more money for this?!

1805. Comment by beavis | October 24th, 2009

      Bob the Sheep continues to bleat out Drooblispeak when kees nails the Droobli scam for falsifying auction results. Try something different, Bob; address the accusations instead of dancing around them (you remind me of Wayne Newton on “Dancing With The Stars”).

1806. Comment by kees | October 25th, 2009

      Remember one of my previous posts about the Barbie CD for 5.50 Eur start price and with “1 point” shipping costs which would be 6.95 Eur for Germany up to 98.95 Eur for Kazakhstan?

      Well, it seems we’ve got a “lucky” winner:
      http://eu.droobli.com/Barbie-and-the-Diamond-Castle-CD__5e_13502

      This “camero” bought it for 4.60 Eur and thus saved 16% according to Droobli.

      But if camero lives in Germany he/she would have to pay 4.60 (item price) + 6.95 (shipping) = 11.55 Eur, which would mean a NEGATIVE “saving” of 11.55 – 5.50 = 6.05 Eur or having paid a total of 110% ABOVE the start price.

      Let’s hope the person behind this spanish-sounding name actually doesn’t live in Spain, because then the shipping costs would be 19.95 Eur …

      And again the Sold-for price is impossible to reach with 20-cent steps going down from Start price of 5.50 Eur.

      I’m sure this camero has just become another happy customer who will go “viral” among his/her friends about Droobli and the awsome money-saving going on there

      ———–

      Okay Bob, so it actually costs “only” $199 a year PER WEBPAGE on the Droobli servers? Well, that’s a relief

1807. Comment by kees | October 25th, 2009

      “But if camero lives in Germany he/she would have to pay…”

      must be:

      But even if camero lives in Germany (with the lowest shipping costs) he/she would still have to pay…

1808. Comment by kees | October 25th, 2009

      Btw, look at these completed Xpress auctions:

      Games console Xbox 360 Elite
      http://eu.droobli.com/Spielekonsole-Xbox-360-Elite__5e_13505

      and

      Samsung SyncMaster
      http://eu.droobli.com/Samsung-SyncMaster__5e_13552

      both “won” by a certain “Crunshy” and both for 0.00 Eur,
      that’s one lucky b*st*d, eh?

      Totally unbelievable…

1809. Comment by Trust me | October 25th, 2009

      Take this from one that once worked for GroobLi:

      Bobby Jensen is one the most lying, manipulating, cynical and dubious characters I have ever met, and if your intuition is to run screaming away from this scam – then trust that!

      All these people trying to defend GroobLi, are the suckers that bought into the lies, and are now trying to get their money back.

      I attended a few of the recruitment “seminars”, and I have never met with such an intense gathering of low intelligence before or since.

1810. Comment by Charlie | October 25th, 2009

      It turns out as far as Hawaii is concerned Droobli sucks, whoever Beavis is he’s still a pedofile.

1811. Comment by Lord Protector Beavis | October 25th, 2009

      Charlie said:

      “It turns out as far as Hawaii is concerned Droobli sucks, ”

      Of course I’m right, as usual.

      and Charlie also said:

      “whoever Beavis is he’s still a pedofile.”

      And of course, as usual Charlie, you’re wrong (and, by the way, next time do a spell check as it’s spelled “pedophile”; not “pedofile”).

1812. Comment by Bob | October 25th, 2009

      Beavis,
      Great to have someone looking out for the masses.
      Can we snuggle up to your protection?

      We need to be safe!
      What is your recommendation in global business?

      We need something sanctioned by the master!
      Maybe some will follow.

1813. Comment by kees | October 26th, 2009

      Tried to paste some rather weird results from the completed Xpress Auction results (eu.droobli) but it didn’t came through …?

      Was my post too long maybe?

1814. Comment by Only Facts | October 26th, 2009

      I am very curious about the disappearance of the EU shopping porthole. From what I can see It has been gone for at least 10 days. Does anyone have any further info????? I have asked the BA’s I know here and only 2 have been able to suggest an answer. The answer has come from the US and is described as the “EU site has been removed so the Global site can take over”. If this is the case it makes absolutely no sense what so ever. To my knowledge the global site is not due to be up until sometime next month (so long as there is not another delay) so we are talking a least a month that the EU will have no mall.

      Now if the Pro Droobli’s are correct the mall is where the majority of the profits come from, we can assume finances will be tight in the world of Droobli for a while. Lets first look at the 3 million customers in Europe. How are they going to feel while this amazing business is off the air, remember the auctions are only the hook to get people to the mall. Will these satisfied customers return??????? Now lets look at the extremely successful EU BA’s that make the majority of their money from the mall. There will be no money for at least a month. They will be happy!

      Why would you close down the most successful aspect of your business for any period of time, waiting for a new program???????? Would you not run the existing one until the new was ready, then in a hail of publicity merely switch over at lets say midnight? I am very interested in more info on this please.

      Bob

      A question. Your friends that buy their vouchers, have you informed them about Rik McCoy? Have you informed them about the bankruptcies? How you informed them on the other negative facts that have been proven on this and other sites? They may be interested.

      As always still awaiting any independent positive news about Droobli.

1815. Comment by Count beavis | October 26th, 2009

      You’d think after spending $100,000,000 (or is that Euros?) for software you’d think the bitches could keep their sites running. Or maybe they just lied about the it.

      Bob,

      How’s your family dealing with this? I’ll bet by now when you walk through the door after work you, by the time they are done with you, you feel like a pound of hamburger at a Rottweiler convention.

1816. Comment by Bob | October 26th, 2009

      Beavis,
      Family? they love it, but we have not seen anything yet.

      More importantly:

      People (my customers) who use the US site love it too, and recommend customers on my behalf.

      Who spent 100 mil in euros? You have got to be kidding! Where did you hear that, and why are you even mentioning such a silly thing?

      Don’t wallow in the dumps and you will not be influenced by it.

      Com’on!

      It is only a shopping site that people get paid to promote!
      And people get paid to shop!

      Do you want to check in here every day and not get paid, or…
      Promote savings to everyone, and enjoy?

1817. Comment by Barrister beavis | October 26th, 2009

      Because the auctions are largely fake, dumbass. Were you not paying attention or are you too stooooopid to get it about the Xpress auctions going to zero or the fact that the sale prices are impossible to arrive at based on the supposed incremental price drops? It’s not a “shopping site that people get paid to promote”; it’s a scam and you’re too dense to figure it out. Break out a calculator if you can’t do the math; your auctions are rife with F R A U D! And I’ve noticed that you and Gene can’t address any of this; yet, you continue to repetitively pimp this scheme. I’m getting sick of you jokers; you know better by now because you’ve seen the posts and read the exposures. Oh, and while were addressing bullshit, here is a nice quote for you:

      “Today, there are many reverse auction websites also referred to as a “reverse dutch auction.” The problem with current reverse auction websites is they simply do not have the goals or overhead that GroobLi has. GroobLi has invested over $100 million in its software and infrastructure and they company is still debt free.”

      and here is the source:

      http://www.funshoppingusa.com/droobli_auctions.html

      I did make a mistake in not noting that included “infrastructure”, though I don’t know how much a few desks, chairs and phones that comprise Droobli’s rented office in Europe take up of that 100 f#@&ing million dollars.

1818. Comment by kees | October 27th, 2009

      I think this also is a bit strange:

      In one of their “Press” reports, about:

      USA E-Commerce Conference Day 2
      GroobLi’s 1st USA E-Commerce
      Conference
      April 4th & 5th 2009
      Hyatt Regency Scottsdale Arizona (Day 2)

      http://www.drooblinetwork.com/1-49_7/press

      it says:

      ———————————
      “Chairman of GroobLi.com Kent Lee Holmstoel was extremely proud of the rapid growth in the US.

      He gave his analysis of the current financial crisis and what to do. Further he predicted that investors will move back into assets classes like stocks and shares over the next year, mainly because he predicts that the stimulus package introduced by Obama will eventually lead to inflation.

      Finally he talked about the importance of having committed Business Associates in GroobLi.com. As a result GroobLi’s Board of Directors has agreed on offering GroobLi ownership units to the US Business Associates for a limited time period.

      He emphasized the offering will be exclusively for Business Associates and that the investment should be considered long-term.

      He concluded that some of the European investors thus far have experienced substantial gains on their investment and that the company’s main focus is to secure committed partners.

      All relevant information and order forms can be found at http://www.droobli-invest.com/

      Ownership units are available in three groups. Minimum investment is 400 units at USD $2.50 per unit. Investors who purchase between 2,000 and 40,000 units will receive an additional 10% bonus allocation in shares free of charge and will qualify as Partners.

      GroobLi.com will supply personalized Business Cards including the title. In a similar manner, all investors who purchase in excess of 40,000 units will receive an additional 15% bonus allocation in shares and will become Senior Partners with added VIP privileges. The offering of units can be terminated by GroobLi without prior notice.”

      ———————————

      What I find strange is that this link to their investment-info site
      http://www.droobli-invest.com/
      is kind of dead now….

      It only says:

      droobli-invest.com
      This domain name has been registered by Safenames.

      It may have something to do with the later announced merger with MediocreNet Group Technologies, Inc. They may presently be busy sorting out ‘the details’ for future presentation, and may not be able to present all relevant and accurate information at this moment.

      But wouldn’t this droobli-invest.com site have to be the number 1 source of information for any existing Droobli investors that already have paid previously to get their private Droobli shares or “Droobli Ownership Units” as they are called now? Or even for the interested people from ‘outside’ Droobli?

      It could be that Droobli investors or Business Associates have access to more info when they sign in somewhere in their Droobli “Back Office”.

      But even then this site should at least display a message to the people visiting and looking for information, explaining in some detail what is going on….

      Why is droobli-invest.com offline?

1819. Comment by Fox with bushy tail | October 27th, 2009

      Hey Bob …. With Droobli people “get paid to promote” and “get paid to shop” at the Droobli mall “which has the lowest prices on the internet”. Your words moron.

      You just blew it. Now no one believes you. The figures don’t add up. With Droobli you get paid for breathing, sleeping and everything else.

      What drugs are you on Bob? It’s obvious you’ll say anything to get someone in your pyramid.

      Stay away from Droobli. It stinks. It can only appeal to the desperate moron.

      You have no conscience Bob. You get morons to join your crappy business. Deep down you must hate your life and yourself.

1820. Comment by kees | October 27th, 2009

      Question for the Droobli Associates:

      How do you feel about the fact that the money you and your customers pay to Droobli is dumped into an offshore Cyprus bank account?

1821. Comment by beavis of the Bahamas | October 27th, 2009

      The fools think that is how shrewd European businessman conduct business (they don’t understand that tax haves are for those who primarily wish to evade taxes and cheat the court systems).

1822. Comment by beavis of the Bahamas | October 27th, 2009

      Thats “tax havens” not “tax haves” (damn defective keyboard). . .

1823. Comment by Only Facts | October 27th, 2009

      Comment 1158

      Bob said:

      “3 years”? “They have only been live for a year in Europe…..” Thankfully Bob you are now aware that they have been operating for over 3 years. In fact on Droobli’s own success stories page Ja Lewandowski claims he has been in Droobli for 5 and a half years.

      “Bankruptcy”

      again you are now aware of the Bankruptcies.

      Comment 1162

      Bob said:

      “This blog has convinced me to look hard at Droobli and I have made my decision”.

      This comment is simply untrue, as your above post proves. Bob you, like most other pro Droobli people don’t undertake Due Diligences, they are of the opinion that if Droobli tells you to they must not be scared of you will find so you don’t look. All that I can see, that pro Droobli people look at, is the Droobli sites and that’s it. Due Diligence undertaken. This is sooooooooooooo wrong, but extremely common and how these companies thrive.

      Comment 1189

      Bob said:

      “……the customer will always save”

      Thanks to Kees we now know this is untrue

      Comment 1193

      Bob said:

      I need a credible source.

      This is the whole point Bob. Credible sources are thrown around here like Frisbees but you refuse to acknowledge or believe them. Droobli on the other hand is the exact opposite not one creditable source. Approaching 6 years in Europe Nothingggggggggggggg US over a year Nothinggggggggggggg Even this site with all the , however diminishing, pro Droobli people and 1819 posts Nothinggggggggggggg. You cant give us a thing. To use one of your sayings, “and here’s the kicker”, you still don’t think anything’s wrong.

      This brings me to the point of this post. Any business person will tell you, when they are approached to invest in anything they will look for the negative. Why? Because the person wanting your investment sure as hell will tell you all the positives. That’s their job. Your job is to find the negatives from independent credible sources and either prove or disprove. When you take your credible information from a person, regardless of how may letters he has after his name, that promotes another scam they loose all credibility. When you take your independent information from a person that is on the management board, they loose the ability to call themselves independent so you can throw that info away. These are the clear, and undoubtable facts. In life an adolescent is a person approaching adulthood. In business an optimist is a person approaching bankruptcy.

1824. Comment by Ireckonitsawesome | October 27th, 2009

      Ok… Now eaglescout…

      You are HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      Dude it seems like your life exists to pull Droobli down.
      Do you realise how much time you have spent messaging people back with responses?

      Dude how much money do you make?
      Droobli have obviously gone wordwide and have the backing of top Lawfirms. What is it with dudes like you just wanting to tear any good thing down, or anything that could possibly be good.

      Dude you remind me of a little troll who’s just angry….

      “I’m upset… Oh world hear my anger at anything that may be good…. No dont have happiness. That might hurt me…. I’m going to go back in my lonely negative TROLL HOLE”

      Dude, droobli is going to become a household name around the world, just like google and just like ebay, and you wont
      Thank God that people didnt listen to dudes like you when Ebay was trying to get off the ground….

      “NO DON”T TRUST THEM EVERYTHINGS A SCAM”

      You with your little buddies as a seven year old. Your mum asks your mate when he’s over at your house to play “Hey little Timmy, do you want some Ice Cream?” You: “NO DON’T TRUST HER ITS A SCAM!!!”

      You on the Superbowl: “NO DON”T GO THERE IT’S A SCAM”

      You to some little four year old kid: “NO DON’T YOU KNOW? SANTA’S A SCAM!!!”"”"

      WAAAAA MUMMY!!!!!!!

      Maybe someone di that to you when u were four….???

1825. Comment by beavis of the Bahamas | October 28th, 2009

      Spoken like a true Droobli Business Associate. . . umm, dude.

1826. Comment by Ireckonitsawesome | October 28th, 2009

      Ummm…. I’m sorry….

      Beavis? Was that ur pseudo name?
      Don’t Ummm dude me buddy….

      That’s all you’ve got to come back with?

      At the end of the day chucky cheese, this has more to do with customers being happy and associates making money….
      as far as what I have seen of droobli the company is stable and not going to fail. it does have partnerships with some BIG names I dont care what eaglescout says because it is only an opinion….

      If u go to the shopping portal you will see these partnerships
      And if they’re “not really partners then this would be shut down pretty fast”
      Also why would droobli risk massive growth to maybe one have apple and sony suddenly be “made aware” that a large company like droobli are in partnership with them if they are actually not?

      To me this blog serves no purpose but to pull something down that may be great….

      If customers are happy and getting a good deal and associates are making money through a platform that is still, despite what the naysayers say, completely ethical and legal then y not?

      Why create all this bickering that really is just causing destruction…

      You know some people are willing to take a risk with this hoping that it may be a good break.

      even though it actually doesn’t seem like there is much risk at all
      It is the best comp plan I’ve ever seen and the structure is phenomenal!

      And also? Its what this market predominately WANTS!
      Just because its not wat you want doesn’t mean you have to spoil the party for everyone else

      Customers and associates

1827. Comment by beavis back to being beavis | October 28th, 2009

      Yes, Ireckonitsawaome, we’re just bastards. We are going to single handedly crush your precious company and cause you to loose your investment. It’s nice of your company to cooperate with us by blatantly rigging the auctions, though, and their wild ass claims of being bigger than eBay or Amazon when they are doing so poorly that they have to fake auction traffic makes our job that much easier. Goodbye, Droobli; it was nice knowing you.

1828. Comment by Ireckonitsawesome | October 28th, 2009

      Dude you totally missed the point didn’t ya?
      Where are they blatantly rigging auctions?
      Provide proof?
      Blatant means that it is very obvious….
      You are just sledging now buddy

      Also it doesn’t matter how much traffic goes to the droobli main site, it is the individual associates sites that gain the traffic.

      And another point you have just blatantly admitted that you and ur little homeboys are trying to pull droobli down for the sake of it….

      And finally, they haven’t made outrageous claims to be bigger than ebay, that is a projection based on figures that may or may not come true

      Droobli have hired top law firms to ensure that nothing they do can be challenged in court

      In response to “droobli is a gambling business”
      Not true
      All fifty us states attorney offices seem to agree. None have elected to take any action or even object to anything droobli is doing….
      People who post negative comments in blogs similar to this are just out to create traffic to there own websites to their own business and add revenue, it seems the proper authorities do not agree

      I have a Letter from
      Martin D Owens attorney at law
      Regarding legality of droobli online reverse auctions under us gaming law
      Dated December 29/2008
      If anybody wants a copy you can leave your email address and ill send you a copy

      as much effort as that takes

      Or you can email him directly for any questions mowens@trade-attorney.com

      What goes around comes around fellas
      Don’t think you can get away with stuff like this forever

      Oh and also, Beavis?
      You couldn’t refute my comments?

      To anybody considering Droobli,
      Please don’t leave your research at this site
      The majority of negative press here is fabricated or taken out of context.
      I spent half the night last night researching this and reading documentation of legal notes and responses by droobli to bad press because even I had doubts with all this negativity flying around.

      Since last night I have come to support what Droobli is conducting in its ethical business practices as being above reproach and with very strong legal backing.

      Don’t leave your research here because the negative comments are purely to create traffic with backlinks etc….
      Other than that there would be no real reason that someone with a life would actually create something such as this blog….
      There has to be a point and motivation behind this website….. Question it

1829. Comment by beavis | October 28th, 2009

      OK,

      breathing deep,

      breathing deep,

      typing slowly,

      very slowly,

      ahem. . .

      Ireckonitsawesome,

      you are a moron.

1830. Comment by Ireckonitsawesome | October 28th, 2009

      Ok,

      Butthead….
      Why am I a moron?
      And what is your motivation to defame droobli?

      After all that I wrote that was all you could come back with?
      Well done son!

1831. Comment by beavis | October 28th, 2009

      I meant “maroon”.

1832. Comment by Ireckonitsawesome | October 28th, 2009

      Ok no worries mate my points still stand.

      As i said previously to anybody considering Droobli, do not leave ur research here.

      Think about checking this one out and check the backing for it, you’ll be put at ease just as i was.

      PS. Again, I am not saying to only leave your research there either. Check the backing, do further research

1833. Comment by IreconitsBob | October 28th, 2009

      OK,

      Duh…sorry.

      But Droobli is going to what they are going to do. They are marching forward, and making wise adjustments according to what the global market will welcome.

      I have seen nothing but negative spin, and really no hard evidence to prove(in factual documented context)that the ‘bullet points’ presented to the negative are anything to worry about, or even consider as far as a business decision goes.

      They are all negative wild assertions.

      In the meantime…Droobli marches on with business.
      Customers make/save money.

      Partner programs help their members save money while contributing (very cost effectively) to the mission statement.

      And business associates get the rewards of being early innovators for all of them.

      Love it…

      I feel good about actually helping people save, raise, and make money.

      Always will…

1834. Comment by Nicky J | October 28th, 2009

      I have to agree with the last two guys (Sry names are too long).

      Droobli is great!! I’ve bought stuff already, have friends who have got stuff super cheap and am completely stoked!!

      I’m not an associate, but im thinking about getting involved.

      From what I’ve seen and experienced so far I have no reason other than to be happy with what I’ve got

1835. Comment by Only Facts | October 28th, 2009

      IreconitsBob & Ireckonitsawesome AKA Dude

      Dude
      Are you serious. The only point you brought up that can not be disproved is the legal one because I have never seen that letter. I have seen the original from the member of the management, by god it would be funny if it was the same one I would love to see it please scan it and put it on here or leave your email so I can email you.
      Just one thing jumps out on web traffic. Have you ever heard of a backlink? If so what is it please?????
      As far as your points still stand pick one and lets debate it. If I were to answer all your points, which by the way has already been done, this post would go on for pages. You are exactly the reason I come on here. Young gullible people such as Aaron believe what you say no matter how ridiculous, and get screwed. Bring it on. Make it a good point.
      Here is a question for both of you. Don’t ignore it again just answer the questions.
      Has Rik McCoy been involved with scams before????
      Does this not concern you????????

      Come on guys just one provable important fact thats all I am asking for.

      Ireconitsbob
      How do you feel about helping to rip off people as, has been proven even on this site. Or do you turn a blind eye and say it’s all just Beavis.

1836. Comment by B-Rad | October 28th, 2009

      Hey so, if any of you know how affiliate marketing works, this blog has totally been setup by at least one affiliate or someone who owns 1 or multiple websites to drive traffic and sales.

      If you look at the bottom of this page or at the top right hand corner, this is a site dedicated to making money.

      The more people who blog on here the more that it goes higher in the ratings.

      This blog and site in itself is a scam.

      Either this site is run by the blog creator or at least just the blog itself to Make money, on my screen at the moment there is an ad saying “I’m rich and you’re not” the rich jerk dot com

      This is totally just a marketing strategie for affiliate sites set up on this website, you pay click through fees, its exactly like droobli!!

      Hahaha

      Its really funny to watch people who no idea just letting loose at each other

1837. Comment by B-Rad | October 28th, 2009

      PS Droobli isn’t using defamation to drive Traffic, however this blog is, think about that one…

      Who’s ethical now?

1838. Comment by Only Facts | October 28th, 2009

      B-Rad
      Have a look and see how much money this site makes, call the cops this is a major scam. You have been listening to Droobli thats their major wolf call. By the way Droobli is now down from 200 odd to 100 odd advertising revenue.

      We don’t care if this guy makes money. If it wasn’t for him there would be a hell of lot of more people sucked in to this rubbish than there already is.

      A simple rule for this site. If you wish to make a point prove it. Show us links, documents etc. If you only wish to throw around unprovable stats and rhetoric go to a Droobli seminar. It’s what there best at. Have a look they can never prove a claim.

1839. Comment by beavis | October 28th, 2009

      Funny how the new Droobli sheep don’t address the allegations of fraud in the auction results. Kind of reminds me of the older Droobli sheep who don’t address the allegations of fraud in the auction results. Come on, sheep! Answer these two questions:

      1. How does an Xpress auction get all the way down to zero without a buyer?

      2. How is the discount from the original price reached if the discount is not divisible by the currency increment that is used to reduce the price?

      I know, its much easier just thinking happy thoughts about making money while you sleep. If only it was true. . .

1840. Comment by B-Rad | October 29th, 2009

      Number 1. You are admitting that the most likely scenario with this site and this blog is that it is a scam to make money for someone. Using defamation to drive sales isn’t ethical.

      Number 2. With scenario 1 comes the likelyhood of you being the one who is in store to make money from this and that you are the person who is also known as eaglescout, beavis etc.

      Which means that it is in your interest to fabricate “evidence” and take things out of context to suit your own purpose and pocket. For all we know. You may be richjerk dot com.

      In the case that a major company is committing fraud and other such claims as you and “others” have said, why not take a law suit against Droobli?
      And REALLY have a fair dinkum crack at them?

      Why wouldn’t you do everything within your power to bring them down? In a sensible honourable fashion? That’s if you were “really concerned about people being ripped off”

      However you are not….

      You are sitting here on this blog, probably with the interest of making more money. Because really it’s not in your interests to take it to court of law, just to drive traffic.

      This website is plastered with “get rich ad’s” it is the perfect market that will be drawn to this website.

      That is a terrible thing to do as a human being…. However is easier to sledge like a high school kid than to face what you are doing….

      I have looked into this… Almost every network/mlm that has been making serious money for people, sites like this pop up and they are all scams. It’s because people like you see it as a market opening.

      People who create scam websites like this love it when the next big thing comes along because it’s a chance to make some quick doe and increase sales… If you really care about people like you say you do, you wouldn’t be saying things like “We don’t care if this guy makes money”.

      Because it just as wrong as the alleged scam that you have implied about droobli if not worse because it is most likely that customers are not going to be satisfied.

      In order for droobli to be successful they need to be ethical, have satisfied customers and satisfied associates.

      The material being sold on this site probably has hardly if any legal backing.

      So……

      What I’m saying is if GROOBLI really is fraudulent? Take it to the law and if they turn out to be unethical and get shut down well then good. But if they don’t then you need to suck it up sunshine

      As far I can see, there would be no case to answer

      Even from all the “evidence”

1841. Comment by B-Rad | October 29th, 2009

      Take it to the law Beavis
      Or should I say, eaglescout, or Only Facts??

1842. Comment by kees | October 29th, 2009

      Dear Droobli Business Associates,
      I have a question for you:

      What is Droobli’s definition of a “customer”?

      please see
      http://docs.google.com/View?id=dszwmrf_1fdg5d7gq

1843. Comment by kees | October 29th, 2009

      ps. if you don’t trust that link, you can also go to the ‘MLM / Pyramid Scams’ sub-forum on ’scam dot com’ and look for the “Droobli” thread, I also posted my question (and a whole lot of additional info) there

      For some reason I couldn’t get my post on this board here, maybe it was too long, or maybe some words or links triggered a filter here.

      Anyway, hope you’ll find it worth reading, thanks

1844. Comment by Jack Daddy | October 29th, 2009

      B-Rad,

      Ok, if it’s not a scam, then it certainly isn’t very successful.

      12 successful auctions per day in the US aren’t going to get you the money that you have been told that you could potentially get. People here in Australia are saying that they’ve made such figures as 50K-100K and that they are going to make even more when it starts up.

      Well if it’s not doing so well in Europe and it’s not doing so well in America, how do you think it’ll go here in Australia?

      BTW Only the Facts, I’ve contacted the proper avenues i.e. ACCC, FTC re: recouping my investment and they have all told me the same thing – to contact my bank which I did the transaction with. However, the guy from the ACCC said that if I have authorised the transaction then there is not a lot I can do about getting the money back.

      He did say that the complaint has been kept on record so they are aware of it now.

1845. Comment by Only Facts | October 29th, 2009

      Jack Daddy

      I am extremely surprised to hear that. I don’t know who you spoke to at the ACCC but their advice is incorrect. The only reason you would go to the bank is if Droobli accessed your account for an unapproved withdrawal. It actually has nothing to do with the bank. As a side note for Australians always check your bank statements. In this country, once you sign approval for a company to access your bank account, even if they are crediting your account with a wage and they are approved with a bank to make debits, they can also withdraw from your account without you ever knowing it. Scary but all to true.

      The last person I helped recoup their money went through the Department of Fair Trading, Queensland and claimed that Droobli had excepted her money without delivering a product, which they are still doing. She also informed them of the deception with the so called independent legal advice on the gambling aspect. She got her money back. Did you approach the person that signed you up? If so what was their response. Government bodies will not help until you have exhausted all possible means with the company. This is why I suggested you go to the person directly.

      Unfortunately, in this country, how these bodies work is even though the Fair Trading for example will help an individual, they cannot move on a business as a whole until they reach a certain amount of complaints. This also answers B-rads point on legalities. There is also the question on which department should handle it. It crosses a few including, which ever state you are in, gaming. Information supplied to me suggests that up until recently the Queensland Gamming Commission was looking at 2 of the 3 Droobli auctions the same way as they look at the Art Union raffles. They were awaiting their own legal advise on the issue, then the Zero auction disappeared. They are now looking closely at the unique bid auction. So I don’t sound to much like im picking on Droobli, there are several other Australian reverse auction sites being look at as well.

      B-rod

      You use the term Deformation a lot. As mentioned before, Droobli has tried in the past to have this site shut down, unsuccessfully, for deformation. This in law must mean that what is discovered on this site is true.

      Still no question answered. Still no evidence supplied by pro-Droobli. It’s hard isn’t it.

1846. Comment by B-Rad | October 29th, 2009

      Take it to the courts if your so passionate mate, that’s all I’m saying

1847. Comment by beavis | October 29th, 2009

      I’m still waiting for you sheep to bleat out an answer to my two questions. I know, it makes your little sheep heads swim. B-Rad keeps squealing about “defamation” but he can’t refute the allegations. He is the “Chatty Cathy” doll of Drooblispeak, though. Kind of like Gene except not as creative (which, based on Gene’s history of bad metaphors, is probably a good thing). They both make Bob the Sheep look semi-bright; kind of sets the bar to knee level but from my understanding that is the only level Droobli BA’s have to leap (stumble?) over to join this elite organization.

1848. Comment by Gene | October 29th, 2009

      Aw come on now beav don’t stop portraying your own faults on us. It’s too amusing. The company works what can I say. Check out my site for the gift card I bought. And for someone smart as a semi could that be you. Oops bad metaphor.Again I reiterate from my #1070 post and oh I am watching you beav, egg and no facts.

      I don’t think the company is a scam nor do I think it is unethical if I did I would not have chosen to do this great plan to have an online store now I can understand if you think it’s gambling then don’t get involved. Now I can appreciate those who do think it’s gambling and stick to their guns that’s fine too. Now what you must remember everyone has their own choices to make. I don’t know what your ethics are but you don’t make your points by condemning a person. To be a scam the company wouldn’t deliver on what they propose and my experience has shown they have come through with what they say. Maybe not as fast as even I would like them to but they come through and continue to do so.

      Now if you can show me how it is gambling I would consider your position, also show me that the law of the land recognizes the auctions as gambling. The ball is in your court.

1849. Comment by B-Rad | October 29th, 2009

      Hahaha,
      Dude i can’t be stuffed answering your questions,
      I’m not even an associate,
      I’ll repost my point…. Just in case you missed it

      Take your questions to a court, maybe they’ll answer them for you….

      Or would that disrupt your traffic driving for your scam?

1850. Comment by beavis | October 29th, 2009

      Gene,

      You are a little behind here. We’ve moved on from the gambling issue and have been dealing with the apparent rigging of the auction results. Please take your time and read the previous posts. We anxiously await your most eloquent response.

      B-Rad

      I would have to have damages to take someone to court (damn you are stupid).

1851. Comment by B-Rad | October 29th, 2009

      Butthead….

      No you don’t, not to let the law know. Go to the cops for the fact that they are a “scam”

      Go get a lawyer to look into it, buttface… Coz your concerned for peoples wellbeing aren’t you?

      Coz right now all you’re doing is sledging to create traffic to your affiliate sites.

      Either tell people the truth about your real motives on here, do something about your true “concerns” like going and talking to a lawyer if you think there is such a “case” something about or piss off mate…

1852. Comment by B-Rad | October 29th, 2009

      And also beavis, if you dont have any damages y the hell are you doing this for you asshole?

1853. Comment by Only Facts | October 29th, 2009

      B-Rad
      The police don’t handle scams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Gene.

      Thanks for bringing up a very good point. You say “….show me that the law of the land recognises the auctions as gambling…” I say, you or anyone for that matter show me that the law of the land doesn’t recognise the auctions are gambling. It is such a grey area. Now before you jump in, I know you will say it’s not up to you to prove it is or isn’t but it is as you will read later, but before that, I put up a challenge for everyone. I have supplied information I have obtained from this end, how about Gene, Bob etc; Beavis, Kees etc; contact your local gamming commissions and find out once and for all. Now come on Gene, I know you would love to rub this in our faces. If anyone can obtain a definitive answer please make sure the source can be confirmed.

      I will say this though the definition on gambling is, to play at any game of chance for money or other stakes. That’s your unique bid auction, and was your zero dollar auction.

      Droobli’s own letter of opinion dances around the subject. However the need to be licensed to undertake auctions is very clear. And their plan to combat that is the same as the gambling issue

      B. The only potential legal problems ( outside of tax issues) I can foresee would be centred on the issue of local auction licensing. Clearly it is not realistic to attempt to obtain licenses in every state, town, county or city in the USA that might require them.

      C. The best strategy would be to limit possible exposure to jurisdiction claims by

      1. working through third parties and contractors as much as practicable;

      2. ensuring that the terms and conditions specify

      a. the participant’s sole responsibility for complying with local laws, and

      See point 1 and 2. You do realise that means you Gene they will throw you to the wolves to save their own neck. You are responsible not Droobli. I really do hope you have checked it out. If not I would suggest you do so very quickly.

      http://www.funtasticbids.com/associate/OpinionLetter.html

      B-rod

      That brings me to the court issue. Who do I take to court????? The Ba’s the Sales Directors, The Vice Presidents, Droobli, CG Holdings? Who is Droobli? As well what court in any land is going to allow me to take a company to court when they haven’t done anything to me. I’m not a member. I can’t sue McDonalds because a lady I’ve never met burns her mouth on hot coffee.

      Still waiting for any non Droobli positivity.

1854. Comment by beavis | October 29th, 2009

      B-Rod,

      The Gold Level is the best deal. You get a better discount than Bronze or even Silver so you can dramatically increase your profit margin. If you get in now before the viral marketing campaign hits you’ll be in on the ground floor of something that is destined to be bigger than eBay and Amazon. You even get a big title that you get to put on business cards that you buy. Now get along little doggie and become a BA today!

1855. Comment by Only Facts | October 29th, 2009

      Quick question for Bob and Gene.

      Do you believe Droobli went Bankrupt in Demark?

      Or do you believe what Droobli says, and I quote:

      “It is true that GroobLi’s original corporate entity, GroobLi Denmark ApS, was voluntarily liquidated and dissolved when the company acquired a German company and moved its headquarters from Denmark to Germany.”

1856. Comment by Thanks | October 30th, 2009

      Only Facts

      I owe you a big thank you. Like an idiot I didnt bother to research Droobli. I didnt even know this site existed until I tryed to sign up a relative. He did do research found this site and followed the links then told me the truth. I started following this site but felt to embaressed to join in. Only after reading your advice I decided to do something about it and low and behold I recieved my money back in full. Again thank you once bitten twice shy. Keep up the good work.

1857. Comment by Gary | October 30th, 2009

      Can any shed some light on the merger between Droobli and MediocreNet Group Technoligies? The Droobli machine are claiming this makes Droobli a publicly listed co. on the New York stock exchange??

      Thanks..

1858. Comment by Shaun "Due Diligence" Premo | October 30th, 2009

      B Rad, you’re not part of Droobli. I guess you did your “due diligence” and decided not to be part of the modern marketing miracle called Droobli. I was being sarcastic. But really Droobli is a modern miracle. How anyone thinks they could make money from Droobli is beyond me. How did Droobli find so many morons?

      Hey, Drooblidiots the guys at the top of the Droobli pyramid need more money. Perhaps you could give them more money. Have they created a “platinum” level yet? What about “diamond”? These are the usual corny names used by pyramid.

      Hey Drooblidiots ever hear this phrase: ??? “you could go presidential in 6 months”??? Or what about “you could have the tri state area sewn up”???

      Droobli generates a lot of corn. The best corn crop is “Droobliland”. I kid you not. They have a “Droobliland”. And they still sign people up to join Droobli. Can you believe it? The wonder of moronism. I am in awe of Bobby Jenson. He’s not in jail. Can you believe it?

1859. Comment by Mark Beadon | October 30th, 2009

      Drooblidiots make me sick. With all their pimping for Droobli. Acting like they are so concerned for everyone when all they want is a buck for themselves. They make money off of signing you up !!!! Do you realize how that causes all the Drooblidiots to go out there and bother us. No Drooblidiots better come to my place or they will be involved in a physical confrontation. I will not stand for the human scum that are those Drooblidiots. We had one at work but we ganged up on him and he had to leave. No one likes Drooblidiots. We all want the Drooblidiots to crawl into hole. They have no right to live among normal, decent people.

1860. Comment by Only Facts | October 30th, 2009

      Gary.

      Medianet is a shopping porthole that Droobli originally paid to be a part of. Whenever Droobli bragged about their shopping porthole they were actually talking about Medianet. Medianet claimed to be the largest shopping porthole, never mentioning the largest where, just the largest. Medianet stared trading on the NASDEQ at $2.25 but very quickly dropped to 9 cents. This is when Droobli realised they needed to do something or they would loose their link to legitimacy. CG Holdings, the holding company for Droobli and others offered Medianet a bail out in return for control. With no other options Medianet agreed. Medianet stocks now range from 17 to 23 cents a share. Bobby Jensen claims 50% of CG as a beneficial owner.
      This means that while Mr Jensen controls the company it is not is his name and he is not liable.

      So in fact Medianet controlled by CG Holdings is on the NASDAQ not Droobli.

      Hope this helps.

1861. Comment by kees | October 30th, 2009

      Great info you’re providing, Only Facts, thanks!

      Btw, for the people who didn’t know yet: Droobli has made earlier claims about going public, like in this 2007 “Droobli.com goes public!” attempt to lure-in more investors:

      accessed via the web-archive:

      http://web.archive.org/web/20070918194133/www.droobli-invest.com/Default.aspx?ID=1761
      —————————————
      Newsletter 03.07.07

      GroobLi.com goes public!

      During the Convention in Berlin, Saturday it was announced that GroobLi.com plans to list on the London Stock Exchange.

      The exact timing will be announced later when the time frame has been approved by the Nominated Advisor of the London Stock Exchange.

      In preparation of the listing a number of major changes have taken place in The GroobLi.com Group. Bluebuy and its subsidiaries are now owned 100 percent by GroobLi.com and we have also acquired ownership of GroobLi Futura, the company that administers our Professional Shop system.

      In his presentation of the forthcoming listing, Mr. Kent Holmstoel, OIB International, said, that he expects the listing to take place early in 2008. Mr. Holmstoel also presented some arguments for GroobLi to list on the stock exchange:

      # A listing will give the GroobLi portal a higher profile to enable it to compete more effectively with the already established competition – eBay, QXL Ricardo

      # It will increase both buyers’ and sellers’ trust in the portal

      # It will increase GroobLi Network Business Associates trust in the platform

      # It will offer the group a better position to attract, recruit and retain employees

      # It will provide the option of expanding by strategic acquisition

      Once the final time frame has been approved it will no longer be possible to buy units in GroobLi.com.

      Meanwhile, we have set aside a number of units for those of our Business Associates who want to become shareholders before we list on the stock exchange.

      Therefore, if you consider joining GroobLi.com before we are listed on the stock exchange, you still have the opportunity to acquire units.

      This offer will be valid until August 1st, 2007.

      Orders will be handled as we receive them, until the quota has been reached. After receiving your order we will confirm if your order can be fulfilled.

      The price for one unit is still 1.30 euro. Minimum purchase is 1,000.00 euros plus fees. The Silver and Gold programs are still valid, i.e. if you buy for 4,000 Euros or more, we will add 10 % more units to your purchase. Read more HERE.

      To buy units click HERE.

      Our Loan Programme in 2006 was a great success. Many Business Associates chose to take out a credit in order to buy more units. These loans will have to be repaid before September 1st, 2007. A separate e-mail has been sent to all Business Associates with loans.

      In the event that some of the loans are not repaid before September 1st, 2007, the underlying GroobLi units will be sold to interested parties at a date to be announced later.
      —————————————

      Of course this never happened, but I’m sure they cashed-in nicely, both on the sale of ‘units’ and on the loans they provided.

      In the meanwhile their official investors site is still offline:
      http://www.droobli-invest.com
      “This domain name has been registered by Safenames”

1862. Comment by beavis | October 30th, 2009

      Slight correction: Droobli’s little acquisition (and I mean little) is not even listed on NASDAQ – it’s only published by the market maker on OTCBB which is :

      “The OTC Bulletin Board® (OTCBB) is a regulated quotation service that displays real-time quotes, last-sale prices, and volume information in over-the-counter (OTC) equity securities. An OTC equity security generally is any equity that is not listed or traded on NASDAQ or a national securities exchange. OTCBB securities include national, regional, and foreign equity issues, warrants, units, American Depositary Receipts (ADRs), and Direct Participation Programs (DPPs). ”

      It’s the Little League of listing services. They have to supply financials to the SEC but the holding company is isolated. In other words, minimal disclosure for Droobli and pretty much a non-event with regard to the transparency of Droobli.

1863. Comment by kees | October 30th, 2009

      Ps. Droobli Business Associates, have you had a chance yet to read my post to which I referred to in comments 1841 and 1842?

      The last part goes like this:

      ——————————
      A total of 700 Xpress auctions were bought by Droobli customers in 450 days.

      This means Droobli customers, on average bought 700/450 = 1.55 Xpress auction per day, on the EU Droobli site.

      Droobli EU serves at least the 27 EU countries (and some more countries according to the shipping-points tables on the EU Droobli site), which have a total population of close to 500 million people, but the toal population served by Droobli EU is much more when we include Ukraine, Russian Federation, Kazakhstan, etc. as they are mentioned in the shipping tables.

      So that’s less than 2 completed Xpress auctions per day on a population of over half a billion people…

      Well, that sure is an incredible “suckses” for Droobli EU.

      But wait, what about the “actual” number of European customers Droobli claims to have?

      I’ve seen claims anywhere from about 1 million to about 4 million European Droobli customers.

      If a total of 700 Xpress auction items were bought among 1 million Droobli customers, this would mean 700/1,000,000 = 0.0007 items per Droobli customer.

      It gets even worse when Droobli would have indeed 4 million customers:
      700/4,000,000 = 0.000175 item per Droobli customer.

      Assuming Droobli’s information is true and my calculations are right (please correct me if I’m wrong), a question that then arises (at least in my simple mind) is:

      What is Droobli’s actual definition of a “customer”?

      Is a Droobli-”customer” someone who buys 0.000175 up to 0.0007 Xpress auction items per 15 months?

      ——————————

      You can read it all at
      http://docs.google.com/View?id=dszwmrf_1fdg5d7gq
      or if you don’t trust that link, you can also go to the ‘MLM / Pyramid Scams’ sub-forum on ’scam dot com’ and look for the “Droobli” thread, I also posted the whole lot there.

      Thank you

1864. Comment by Gary | October 30th, 2009

      The plot thickens!

1865. Comment by beezy | October 30th, 2009

      You guys.

      This is freaking ridiculous.

      Have you seen this website? It’s called “The GroobLi Factor: The truth about GroobLi” WTF can you believe that?!

      http://thedrooblifactor.com

      I just can’t believe all the shit on that site. Probably going to give them a piece of my mind. Talk about “drooblidiot.”

1866. Comment by kees | October 30th, 2009

      One of the links on that thedrooblifactor site leads to:

      * Video Interview with Dr. Charles King, PhD
      Co-Founder of GroobLi Academy *
      http://www.yourdroobliworld.com/king-video.html

      At about 1:45 Dr. King starts to talk about eBay not being able to control the quality of its product line, nor being able to control the logistics of moving the products from the seller to the buyer, thus getting bad press, as well as law suits from buyers, and then he says:

      (time frame 2:20 – 2:32)
      ——————————
      “… so the result has been that eBay over the past 3 months has changed its business model away from traditional practise and thereby… they’re not even a competitor to Droobli anymore.”
      ——————————

      Stop the press!
      Ebay is not even a competitor to Droobli anymore!

      ROFLMAO! oh please stop you guys, you’re killing me LOL

1867. Comment by kees | October 30th, 2009

      More fascinating reading:

      http://docs.google.com/View?id=d9xs9vm_08b3qnths

      a preview (start & end of the article):

      ————————————-
      Interesting thread from *2007*:
      (remember? the ‘HUGE-SUCCESS’-in-Europe-era for Droobli)

      This is from the USA-based PowersellerUnite site, with some experiences from a US seller on the European Droobli of that time (of course there were also some Droobli shills & associates present in that thread):

      ….
      ….
      ….

      So…. not such positive experience it seems

      Furthermore, the business model Droobli THEN had was COMPLETELY different than it is now…. THEN Droobli was sort of an eBay clone with individual seller with individual shops etc, and at that time WITHOUT any reverse/unique auctions games….

      So even if they did have SOME success back then with THAT business model, it’s a totally different game now…. all the “HUGE SUCCESS” claims are referring to the time they had this NOW NON-existent business model…

      Seems Droobli is not totally honest about their past “suckses”.

      ————————————-

      see the complete article at:
      http://docs.google.com/View?id=d9xs9vm_08b3qnths

      

1868. Comment by Gino Horton | October 30th, 2009

      Here in Australia I’ve made $2 million with Droobli. Go to my website. I might even give you 1000 free credits. I will be living in Droobliland next year with my waiters, cooks, drivers. I’ve got it all. All of you want to be me. Then join Droobli. You can become a millionaire in 6 weeks. I did. Because I signed up 43, 000 people. Use my techniques. Read my book. I have a Droobli channel. You can wathc me 24 hours a day. I will give you the secrets of being a millionaire. I don’t just use the official Droobli mall. I have my Droobli II site where I sell stuff seized by customs. By part of the new model for marketing.

      Stores like Wal Mart, Woolworths, Best Buy etc will be closing. Droobli will have a world monopoly. Get on board for the ride of your life. Make your house a Droobli house. Get your kids into a Droobli school.

      This thing ain’t stoppin because of beavis and eaglescout. And Kees. Don’t you all want to be me? I have a new car. A big one.

1869. Comment by Only Facts | October 30th, 2009

      Gino Horton

      Of couse we all know your joking and it is very funny, however be a bit careful as there are those out there that will actually believe you. Beav good pick up. Kees the info and links that you are supplying are great keep it up. Just remember pro Droobli always say we do not provide facts> it makes you wonder if they could see a fact if it was delivered by the Pope with Jesus as his driver????? Unless of course JC was a BA and the Pope was a VP.

1870. Comment by Bob | October 30th, 2009

      That’s frigging crazy!
      Are you guys actually saying that Droobli.com as a scam?
      Give me a break!

      They offer amazing discounts to those who participate.
      They offer exciting deals for all customers!

      What are you talking about?

1871. Comment by beavis | October 30th, 2009

      Yes, Bob the Sheep, we are you the “scam” word because the auction traffic is irrefutable. You call us “crazy” but you don’t and can’t explain the inconsistencies. Not only is your company a scam, they don’t cover it very well. But, then again, they are playing to a really stoooopid audience.

1872. Comment by beavis | October 30th, 2009

      “we are using the “scam” word”

      stupid keyboard

1873. Comment by Gary | October 30th, 2009

      Beave n OF,

      Thanks for the insight into Droobli’s dubious stock market situation. It really cracks me up! Some people will do anything for a buck.. There must be a film/book in this..

1874. Comment by beavis | October 30th, 2009

      beezy,

      I checked that link, http://thedrooblifactor.com , and clicked on the comments. A lot of the posts seem to be taken from this blog. I just don’t understand why I wasn’t quoted

      Gary,

      There is a film in production about Droobli; it’s a porno called “Butt-Raped Sheep”.

1875. Comment by Only Facts | October 31st, 2009

      Beavis
      Surely the author of that site is Walt Disney. It seriously made me laugh out loud. Gene has found his site. No proof needed just a bunch of god knows what dribbling with gay abandon. Hey were great arn’t we, yes we are and so are you join Droobli we need all the people we can get to tell us how great we are and more important how stupid everyone else is.

      Bob.
      Come on one point just prove one point. Or you can answer the questions. It is really getting a bit silly now. You pro Droobli cannot prove one point will not answer a single question. Don’t run to your up line for help, you answer. Come on one just one. You keep asking Bob are we serious? Are you???? With respect you have nothing. You come on here on simply ramble. It honestly has reached the stage where it’s put up or shut up.

1876. Comment by Charlie | October 31st, 2009

      No I’m telling the truth, the person on this blog calling himself “Beavis” is a registered sex offender in 24 states, I’ve alresdy posted my contact information, sorry for my spelling errors, just trying to get to the truth about this site.

1877. Comment by Charlie | October 31st, 2009

      You cannot trust these sites where people like Beavis can remain anonymous,,

1878. Comment by kees | October 31st, 2009

      Oh my, Droobli’s 2009 launch in Australia & New Zealand seems to be happening later and later…

      First it was September, then it was October, then it became November, and now… it will be March 2010

      From the Latest Newsletter, dated 30 October 2009:
      a few snippets, and starting with the most important one:

      ————————————–
      “Australia & New Zealand Auction Portal Opens March 1st

      GroobLi plans on introducing the new global auction portal designed exclusively for our customers residing in Australia and New Zealand on March 1, 2010″
      ——————-

      Luckily for the paying Business Associates who are financing this severely delayed Droobli launch for Australia & New Zealand from their own pockets:

      ————————————–
      “Australian and New Zealand Customers Can Begin Placing Bids on GroobLi’s Auctions!

      That’s right, you heard correctly, beginning November 4, 2009 customers living in Australia and New Zealand will be able to begin placing their bids on us.droobli.com”
      ——————-

      But:

      ————————————–
      “Please note that the dollar amounts displayed in the auctions are indeed U.S. Dollars and not Australian or New Zealand Dollars.”

      “Expect the initial shipping rates to be somewhat higher than if your product was purchased and shipped within Australia and New Zealand”

      “Australia Tax
      There is no tax (GST) on products purchased from the USA to Australia if the amount of the purchase is under AUD$1,000. It’s very important to understand this information and pass it on to your BA’s and customers”

      “New Zealand Tax
      There is tax (GST) on almost all products purchased and imported to New Zealand. We kindly request that you read the rules for importing goods to New Zealand. Please note the tax on freight as well”
      ——————-

      Ooops… higher purchase, shipping and possibly taxing costs to begin with , eh? I wonder how enthousiastically this all will be received in ‘the land of Oz’

      On the other hand, Droobli does state that there are no downsides:

      ————————————–
      “Are there any downsides? Not really.

      Let’s take our PLAYSTATION 3 Slim, on top of your purchase price you will of course have to pay the cost for shipping. Expect the initial shipping rates to be somewhat higher than if your product was purchased and shipped within Australia and New Zealand.

      However, allow us to illustrate a possible “worst case” scenario. Let’s assume you decide to purchase that PLAYSTATION 3 Slim on GroobLi’s Xpress auction just when the product first appears. If you were to purchase that PLAYSTATION 3 Slim and include the cost of shipping, the total price out the door would be US$382.

      If you were to compare that to the same PLAYSTATION 3 Slim being sold in Australia, there is still an overall net savings of 17%.”
      ——————-

      Ahh, sounds great, so all should be A-okay then

      I’m now more confident that indeed “an avalanche of activity will be taking place on the auction portal” as Droobli hopefully also states in their Newsletter

      On second thought…. Droobli didn’t include the costs for any clicked credits in their total price for the Playstation…

      Well, anyway, we’ll see what happens, it IS exiting to watch this, bring out the popcorn!

1879. Comment by kees | October 31st, 2009

      Oh oh….

      Droobli said:

      ““Expect the initial shipping rates to be SOMEWHAT higher than if your product was purchased and shipped within Australia and New Zealand”

      I see the ‘Playstation 3 Slim’ they used in their example starts at US$299 on the us.droobli site… if shipped to Australia by Droobli the “total price out the door would be US$382″…

      So Droobli’s “somewhat higher shipping costs” would be US$183?

      That certainly is a fascinating definition of ’somewhat higher shipping costs’, hahaha

1880. Comment by beavis | October 31st, 2009

      Charlie said:

      “You cannot trust these sites where people like Beavis can remain anonymous,,”

      And remember, ‘mud’ spelled backwards is ‘dum’. – Bugs Bunny

1881. Comment by Gary | October 31st, 2009

      this may sound lame but this forum is so funny! it makes my day! is it bad to laugh at ones stupidity?? i cant help it! btw kees loving your work! mike moore would have a field day on droobli, i want to collaborate..

1882. Comment by Gary | October 31st, 2009

      gene n bob, don’t abandon us!!

      u guys are really funny! is it possible to make your uupline/downline to do posts too? cos its so cool. i really hope it works out for u guys but u should seriously consider a career in acting/comedy! im not joking u guys are funny! i can get u guys an agent and we can all share the wealth of your risidual/viral gene/ious!!

1883. Comment by beavis | October 31st, 2009

      I don’t intentionally pick on or laugh at the the mentally challenged, but this is what Droobli gives me to work with

1884. Comment by Bob | October 31st, 2009

      Kees,
      you only posted a select portion of the article. I all fairness, here is the whole thing.

      Australian and New Zealand Customers Can Begin Placing Bids on GroobLi’s Auctions!
      That’s right, you heard correctly, beginning November 4, 2009 customers living in Australia and New Zealand will be able to begin placing their bids on us.droobli.com. We anticipate an avalanche of activity will be taking place on the auction portal, and we are ready for the impending explosive growth.

      We have carefully handpicked a wide selection of the most popular top brand products, which will be available to the people in Australia and New Zealand.* All products available in the auctions are marked with custom-designed icons featuring the country’s national flag. It couldn’t be easier.

      To make things even better, GroobLi’s starting price on merchandise in the Xpress auctions, even before the bidding starts is, according to our surveys, substantially lower than the best deal you can find anywhere locally, in Australia or New Zealand – bar none!

      If by chance one of our highly skilled staff of professional buyers lists an item that is not the absolute lowest price, then it’s still a win win situation for our customers, because, remember, we offer a low price guarantee! If any customer should find the same exact product locally at a lower price, we will simply give you the difference plus 10 percent! We feel our business philosophy of offering our customers a low-price guarantee is something that will give you total peace of mind regarding your purchase.
      On November 4th, customers of GroobLi who reside in Australia and New Zealand will be able to start participating in the auctions and can begin using their GroobLi Credits to place bids in order to potentially walk away with one-of-a-kind bargains on the items they want to buy most. We guarantee your shopping experience in GroobLi’s auctions will be so rewarding and so much fun that you’ll come back time and time again because the discounts are among the best you can find anywhere. In today’s economy every dollar saved can make a huge difference in your family’s budget.

      Getting Started: Take a look at the newest model PLAYSTATION 3 Slim – it’s the latest top of the line game console manufactured by SONY, the perfect Christmas present. GroobLi’s starting price in this Xpress auction is US$299 whereas the average market price in Australia and New Zealand is around US$460.

      GroobLi is always striving to get it right the first time, so in the beginning all Australian and New Zealand customers will be temporarily bidding through the U.S. auction portal. This way our customers can enjoy all the seamless benefits made possible through our well proven and time tested logistical systems, thus ensuring timely deliveries to your doorstep. When GroobLi’s global platform is fully implemented on March 1, 2010, then we will have in place a local shipping facility within Australia which all consumer deliveries will originate from. Please remember this is only a temporary situation until we unveil the Australian and New Zealand portal.

      Please note that the dollar amounts displayed in the auctions are indeed U.S. Dollars and not Australian or New Zealand Dollars.

      Are there any downsides? Not really. Let’s take our PLAYSTATION 3 Slim, on top of your purchase price you will of course have to pay the cost for shipping. Expect the initial shipping rates to be somewhat higher than if your product was purchased and shipped within Australia and New Zealand. However, allow us to illustrate a possible “worst case” scenario. Let’s assume you decide to purchase that PLAYSTATION 3 Slim on GroobLi’s Xpress auction just when the product first appears. If you were to purchase that PLAYSTATION 3 Slim and include the cost of shipping, the total price out the door would be US$382. If you were to compare that to the same PLAYSTATION 3 Slim being sold in Australia, there is still an overall net savings of 17%.

      Australia Tax
      There is no tax (GST) on products purchased from the USA to Australia if the amount of the purchase is under AUD$1,000. It’s very important to understand this information and pass it on to your BA’s and customers.

      Link: http://www.customs.gov.au/site/page5549.asp

      New Zealand Tax
      There is tax (GST) on almost all products purchased and imported to New Zealand. We kindly request that you read the rules for importing goods to New Zealand. Please note the tax on freight as well.

      Link: Factsheet

      * We will include adapters/transformers with every electronic product purchased.
      ** Please read more about our rules for Price Guarantee on http://www.droobli.com

      Australia & New Zealand Auction Portal Opens March 1st
      GroobLi plans on introducing the new global auction portal designed exclusively for our customers residing in Australia and New Zealand on March 1, 2010. Our objective initially is to showcase a minimum of 100-120 of the hottest selling, most in-demand consumer products and services available, that are exclusive to Australian and New Zealand customers. The prices for these products will be in the native currencies for each country.

      Customers will still have the option of placing bids for items that are featured on GroobLi’s global portal, but they will also be able to place bids on products and services that are household name brands within their country.

      Shopping Mall with 500 Stores Open March 1, 2010
      Coming in March of 2009, Australia will have its own shopping mall almost exactly like the one we have on GroobLi’s USA portal. Initially, the mall will feature 500 of Australia’s best retailers, restaurants, and discount store chains. If the retailer has locations in New Zealand, then our customers there will be able to shop in the mall as well. Since we opened the mall in North America, it has become one of the most popular destinations with our customers.

      Here are just a few of the many benefits available for shoppers in GroobLi’s New Mall
      • Customers Earn: up to 30% in “Reward Rebates”
      • Customers Save: up to 60% in discounts from participating merchants listed in our mall.
      • Spend or Save: all the reward points collected by a registered customer can either be spent with other merchants in the mall, or you have the option of withdrawing the amount in cash. It’s your money!
      • Earn Commissions: Imagine being able to earn a small percentage every time one of your Customers goes into the mall and makes a purchase of any kind; buys a gift card or dines in one of the many great restaurants offered? It’s the easiest money you will ever make.
      We would like to congratulate you on your decision to register with us as a free customer with GroobLi. We’re confident that, once you begin bidding in our exciting auctions, you will have one of the best experiences, while saving lots of money, on the best available products, from the brands you trust most. We look forward to serving you well, now and in the future.

      Best Regards
      Your GroobLi.com Team

1885. Comment by Bob | October 31st, 2009

      Only Facts,
      I already have and it was ignored.

1886. Comment by beavis | October 31st, 2009

      Because the auctions are rigged and the plan is a failure.

1887. Comment by Jack Daddy | October 31st, 2009

      Any reason why they are delaying it until March?

      Serious answers please.

1888. Comment by Only Facts | October 31st, 2009

      Bob
      With respect, you have never proven a point, simply repeated Dulispeak. You have never offered any proof. If I missed it I am sorry. What was the point again where was the proof? and why wont you answer my questions re: Rik McCoy????? When we are allowed to bid in the US actions will that be US$ or AUS$?????? And the shipping will kill us.

1889. Comment by beavis | November 1st, 2009

      Jack Daddy,

      This is speculation, but they are probably financially taxed after the MediocreNet deal. Granted it was only a couple hundred thousand but I don’t believe the Droobli founders have much capital (contrary to their claims). If you look at their marketing focus it is internal like the DroobliLand fairy tail they are selling along with the Bentley and “million dollar bonus” aimed at existing BA’s. The goal of this is renewals which helps with the cash flow. My guess is they needed the time to get the cash together to code a site for Australia, get a legal review and arrange a distribution center. If they had the bucks they could do this in a matter of 30 to 60 days.

      Only Facts,

      With respect, Bob the Sheep and Gene the Village Drooblidiot don’t answer any of the hard questions that are thrown at them. None of these jackasses can explain the auction inconsistencies and deep down they know this is a fraud (or they are really stooooopid). The shipping costs are based on what a company with no international wherewithal (Droobli) is stuck charging. They simply don’t have the resources to set up in all of the markets they are trying to expand to.

1890. Comment by SCOTT ANDERSON | November 1st, 2009

      OUCH U GUYS ARE UNBELIEVABLE!YES I AM A GROOBLI ASSOCIATE NUMBER 4137697 ALTHOUGH I HAVE MY ISSUES WITH GROOBLI IT HAS BEEN AS ADVERTISED I THINK ALOT OF WHAT IS GOING ON JUST HAS TO DO WITH FINDING OUT WHAT WORKS BEST SINCE I HAVE JOINED GROOBLI HAS UNDERGONE A LOT OF CHANGE THIS CAN BE FRUSTREATING BUT I STILL THINK THE SYSTEM WORKS AND BELIEVE IT WILL HAVE GREATER SUCCESS WHEN EVERYTHING IS PUT UP PROPERLY AND NO I DONT MAKE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS BUT THE POTENTIAL THERE IS I BELIEVE MAKES UP FOR THE THE FRUSTRATIONS I SOMETIMES HAVE ! THANKU SCOTT ANDERSON GROOBLI BUSINESS ASSOCIATE /4137697

1891. Comment by Bob | November 1st, 2009

      Only Facts,
      How can I answer any questions about Rik McCoy?
      I do not know him. I do know he has a long history in network marketing, which for people who are against the business model will raise red flags in and of itself.

      It is obvious that the owner of this Blog is anti network Marketing in general, Anti Fox News, Anti Christian, etc.

      I do not know everything about Droobli, and do not claim to know all of the answers. I simply express my opinions on the obvious ones I do know, and most people do see.

      I already stated why I think a few Xpress auction go to zero, and why the first 25 cent drop goes to the first increment of 25 cents.

      Amazingly those two topics were used for the last month or so as the subject matter of “Droobli fraud”, when in fact they are easily explainable circumstances. I am not going to explain it again, but you can read posts # 1588, and 1801 to start.

      I do not know all of the other people in GroobLi beyond Rik either, but do know it is very consistent in the Network Marketing industry to have a stigma of fraud attached to many leaders and the companies they were involved with.

      Network Marketing attracts people who try to leverage the efforts of others, unfortunately some good and some bad, just like corporate America/Au/Eu, etc etc.

      In my brick and mortar business I have always leveraged the efforts of others with employees, do the same with Droobli without employees, and give them all the tools for long term
      skills development.

      Droobli is obviously a viable business model with tremendous potential any way you slice it. What will they be a year from now? Hopefully better than they are now, which is better than they were in the past. I like the trend.

      BTW, stooping to name calling is immature. I do not think that you are. I think you are better than that.

1892. Comment by kees | November 1st, 2009

      Bob said:
      “I already stated why I think a few Xpress auctions go to zero”

      You did? Can you tell me where?

      By the way… “a few”?

      There are HUNDREDS of Xpress auctions going down to zero,
      many of them won by only a few “lucky” members, like this “Tyler Family”:

      http://us.droobli.com/Walmart-200-Gift-Card__5e_5194
      Sold for: $0.00
      Start price: $200.00
      Successful bidder: Tyler Family
      saved 100%

      http://us.droobli.com/MasterCard-100-Gift-Card__5e_5209
      Sold for: $0.00
      Start price: $100.00
      Successful bidder: Tyler Family
      saved 100%

      http://us.droobli.com/25-Panera-Bread-Gift-Card__5e_5188
      Sold for: $0.00
      Start price: $25.00
      Successful bidder: Tyler Family
      saved 100%

      see *many* more at:
      http://docs.google.com/View?id=d9xs9vm_129d8dskk

      Amazing, no?

      How is that possible Bob?

      Please tell us their “secret”?

1893. Comment by kees | November 1st, 2009

      And Bob, did you know that Droobli already launched in China a few years ago?

      And that it was a big failure and the whole thing was silently closed down again?

      And did you know that they have purged all references to this China operation from their websites since then, because they didn’t want this failure to be known to their new Cash-Cows… errr … Business Associates?

1894. Comment by Only Facts | November 1st, 2009

      Beavis

      I believe the delay may have something to do with the gamming regulations here. Information supplied to me, that apparently came from Mr Manheimer, states that they were currently in the process of confirming legalities, this is after seven months of selling the product. Using the US site means they bypass Australian Law. Also I mentioned previously that government departments here were trying to work out which category they would come under.

      Scott Andersen

      You say “I think a lot of whats going on is to find out what works best…..” Normally I would agree with you, however after nearly 6 years they should know by now. Spain, Denmark, Germany, US and now Australia. While I am aware each country will have different challenges, these should be identified and resolved before any business is undertaken. Basic. It would be like you as a BA walking into a room of people not knowing who they are and doing a presentation on Droobli only to find you had walked into an anti MLM seminar. This is something you would never do. Firstly one would assume you would at least find out who these people are, and second you wouldn’t do it 5 or 6 times before you worked out there was a problem. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing the same way and expecting a different result. These problems they are trying to work out after 6 years are the same problems that Droobli were calling “amazing, unique” and would take over the retail world. Please continue reading as I address Bob as it is relevant to your potential statement.

      Bob

      You say “How can I answer any questions about Rik McCoy…..” Simple research. On Droobli’s own site they proudly announces that Mr McCoy has been Vice President with two other MLM’s. Now whether he was a VP or simply a low level distributor is irrelevant due to MLM’s nature of placing impressive titles with their reps. However, research has proven that Mr McCoy was involved with at least two huge proven scams Travelogia and Skybiz. If you read his comments on these business at the time, the rhetoric is identical to what is being said about Droobli now. Again on Droobli’s own site they refer to the Bankruptcy of Denmark as ‘Voluntary” again research can easily find their was nothing voluntary about it, it was a simply Bankruptcy. Information supplied by the Denmark business register. Not Spin Factor, not Droobli an independent source. When you invest in a business you invest in the people behind it………these are the people behind it. You say you are happy while people save money, what about the people who lost money with Spain, Denmark, Travelogia and Skybiz. How do you feel about them, and how are the people going to feel about you and other BA’s when these people move on to their next scam????

      Comment 1588 I see no relevance

      Comment 1801 Kees defunct your comment very well in comment 1802

      You say “I do not know all the people in Droobli beyond Rik either……..” Well thats a real shame because it may change your mind. I understand, by your own admission, you do not try to sign people up. However their are people out there doing exactly that with as little information about the company as you have. If these prospects were made aware of it they may not sign up.

      If I have called you names I do apologise as it is not my intention, even though I cannot see where I have done so. I have on the other hand called some of the ridiculous people that come on this site a lot of names and they deserve all of them. Even the ones I have said verbally.

      I really cant see how you can always say the business model is obviously viable with tremendous potention. There is nothing Obvious about it, and the potential at best is minimal. It is an over saturated market, and the company has too many question marks over it.

      If the Australian shopping mall doesn’t open until next March, this means there has been people that have paid for one year for the sole purpose of signing others up. Droobli always states this is not their primary interest, yet this is whats going to happen. Simply allowing us to bid on the US site will not suffice.

1895. Comment by kees | November 1st, 2009

      “Launch of Droobli.com in China”

      http://www.prestin-international.com/index.jsp?ACTION=GONEWS&NEWS1=36

      “August 2005″
      “Droobli.com has launched it’s trading site, and initiated operations in China. Following the trend of many other successful E-Commerce businesses, Droobli.com has established a strong, and growing presence in China.

      During the Beijing Convention of E-Commerce in China, Droobli.com launched officially its site, presenting the various features this worldwide Internet trading portal has to offer.
      CEO Micheal Jenson, and several higher management officers were present at the Beijing Convention.”

1896. Comment by Only Facts | November 1st, 2009

      Kees
      I have questioned the China syndrome before, and even though the BA’s here (Australia) are fully aware of it nobody on this site was able to supply any info, and I wasn’t able to find reference to it. Where did you get your info? And what excuses did you here for the closure?

1897. Comment by kees | November 1st, 2009

      Hi Only Facts, my source must remain incognito, but I *will* be able to reveal some of the old news/info about Operation China that was purged out of the official Droobli history and cleansed from their websites… well from *most* of them anyway

      Also I found an interesting 2006 statement from their former Chinese partner in this.

      I haven’t heard or found yet any specific reasons/exuses for the closure… just a sort of deafening silence after the initial enthusiastically announced China launch.

      I will post more of what I’ve found shortly.

      Bedtime for me now

      Keep up the good work

1898. Comment by kees | November 1st, 2009

      Btw, remember comment 1277 from Jason Switzer, August 14 – 2009:

      * “I, like most people that have taken this business seriously, are making real money.” *

      And remember my comment 1755, October 17th – 2009 where I posted:

      —————————
      “Wow, Droobli GOLD Team leader position incl 1000 credits, available for only $500!
      http://www.answerpatrol.com/questions.php?cat=Droobli

      and BRONZE Business Associate spots incl 800 credits for only $100!
      http://bbleroy-droobli.blogspot.com/2009/10/bronze-business-associate-spots-in.html

      Normally, Bronze will cost you $795 and Gold even $3195!
      That is some discount indeed!”
      —————————

      Guess who offered the BRONZE Business Associate spots incl 800 credits for only $100?

      (that offer was dated Oct 14, exactly two months after Mr. Switzers above mentioned post….)

1899. Comment by Bob | November 1st, 2009

      OK there was a typo.
      I meant comment # 1583

      Again:
      Xpress auctions going to zero?
      Tens of thousands of business associates will produce some who do not know how to acquire a customer, and end up spending their credits. At least there is a better success rate than opening a restaurant, or getting a real-estate license.

      Also, Amazingly:
      We must be seeing the 25 cent increment drop through a different lense as well…makes absolute perfect sense.
      Why does it not make sense to have exact 25 cent price drops?
      It can be no other way.

      Enough of those silly topics!

      Leaders?
      I know who the leaders in GroobLi are, I just have not known them personally, especially for years, and have no right to judge them. I also know what happens to a lot of people in network marketing. They often get bad raps. Hopefully whatever dirt you find is just that, only time will tell.
      If Droobli folds, and people get indicted, we will all know.

      In the meantime:
      Does not affect, me, my friends, my family, and my future.
      That is in our control.

      This site is bullied by a few people doing a witch hunt on Droobli. If Droobli or anyone else for that matter is a scam, and ripping people off, I will be the first to vindicate those who were taken advantage of.

      But if they offer a valuable service to a customer, save them money, they like it, and want to use it, and if there is an opportunity for the opportunity seeker to get paid doing so, then enough said.

      I would never get anything done if I was so negatively analytic…sheesh!

1900. Comment by beavis | November 1st, 2009

      Bob the Sheep said:

      “Xpress auctions going to zero?
      Tens of thousands of business associates will produce some who do not know how to acquire a customer, and end up spending their credits. At least there is a better success rate than opening a restaurant, or getting a real-estate license.”

      So, The Sheep says it isn’t fraud driving all of these auctions to zero but failed Droobli business associates dumping their credits. Way to defend Droobli.

      The Sheep also said:

      “We must be seeing the 25 cent increment drop through a different lense as well…makes absolute perfect sense.
      Why does it not make sense to have exact 25 cent price drops?
      It can be no other way.”

      That statement makes no sense, but thank you anyway.

      His next quote, well:

      “I would never get anything done if I was so negatively analytic…sheesh!”

      You also wouldn’t be dog paddling in circles.

1901. Comment by Only Facts | November 1st, 2009

      Bob.

      These people you don’t want to judge have your money.
      You said ” I also know what happens to a lot of people in Network Marketing They often get bad wraps.” Bob this is not simply network marketing getting bad wraps. Skybiz was a scam…..fraud…..
      http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2003/03/skybiz.shtm

1902. Comment by Dreams Come True With Dublin | November 2nd, 2009

      Talk real figures. I’m just a rough framing carpenter and business is kinda slow. Pop … along comes Droobli and I have a six figure income. By next Time I estimate I will have made $7 million from Droobli. It’s easy. Just create cash streams. Come to my website I might even give you a couple of free credits. Eaglescout and Beavis just don’t get it. They don’t want to be rich. ha ha ha

1903. Comment by beavis | November 2nd, 2009

      “Talk real figures.”

      Gene, you micro cephalic twit, we have been talking “real figures”; auction traffic that doesn’t add up and stratospheric shipping charges. Try to pay attention; just a little bit.

      (Sometimes Gene makes me want to bash my own head in with a hammer.)

1904. Comment by Answer the Question Jerk | November 3rd, 2009

      Gene is it true that Droobli is buying out the Seventh Adventist Church? Is it true that Droobli will be sold off to Ebay who will close it down? Also where can I buy shares?

1905. Comment by kees | November 3rd, 2009

      Well, it’s 4 Nov in Australia…
      !Droobli time!

      Australians and New Zealnders can now bid on auctions at the US Droobli site, with luckily only “somewhat higher” shipping costs as compared to when they would buy the items in their own countries (see the earlier quoted Droobli newsletter)

      So, what does the US Droobli site has to offer to the ‘Ozzies’?

      Let’s take a look at the Xpress auctions:
      http://us.droobli.com/index.php?cid=&catID=0&items_per_page=12&items_per_page=1000

      Ahhh, I see a little Australian flag here and there…. but on most items I do NOTt see that flag…. does this mean only a VERY limited items are available for our cousins down under?

      Well anyway, let’s see what the “somewhat higher” shipping costs would be for example this item:
      http://us.droobli.com/Wii-Fit-Plus-With-Balance-Board__5_5368

      Wii Fit Plus With Balance Board
      Start price:
      $97.99
      Shipping costs: 3 Points

      ———————————

      How much is 3 shipping points for Australia?

      http://us.droobli.com/Shipping-costs__do_shipping.html?show_shc_vkp=3

      (a valid Aus zipcode would be 6005 but often the shipping calculator also works with any other number)

      Oops… US$ 73.10

      Allright, let’s try something smaller and lighter …
      how about:
      http://us.droobli.com/MasterCard-200-Gift-Card__5_5357

      MasterCard $200 Gift Card
      Start price $200
      Shipping costs: 2 Points

      2 shipping points for Australia is…. ahhh, that’s only US$ 43.73

      Yes, I can see this will be a huge succes again (probably comparable to their 2005 China launch), and I’m sure “an avalanche of activity will be taking place on the auction portal” and that we all will be amazed when the “impending explosive growth” will happen

1906. Comment by kees | November 3rd, 2009

      “Ahhh, I see a little Australian flag here and there…. but on most items I do NOTt see that flag…. does this mean only a VERY limited items are available for our cousins down under?”

      must be:

      Ahhh, I see a little Australian flag here and there… but on most items I do NOT see that flag…. does this mean only a VERY limited number of items is available for our cousins down under?

      … typing too fast in my excitement to bring you the news

1907. Comment by kees | November 3rd, 2009

      Of the grand total of 263 North American Xpress Auctions, a staggering 16 are shown with an Australian flag…

      Of the even more impressive *18* North American Unique Bid Auctions, and as much as 2 are available for the ‘Ozzies’….

      Droobli, I have to admit, that IS nothing less than a major HUGE launch for the South Pacific

      You certainly didn’t disappoint any of your Business Associates there!

1908. Comment by kees | November 3rd, 2009

      ‘Asia Pacific’ that is…. sorry, so excited

1909. Comment by beavis | November 3rd, 2009

      Answer the Question Jerk said:

      “Gene is it true that Droobli is buying out the Seventh Adventist Church? Is it true that Droobli will be sold off to Ebay who will close it down? Also where can I buy shares?”

      UPDATE: Droobli is going to reintroduce the “Zero” auction and sell itself to the winner! Starting price will be a very fair 1 billion USD. Bobby Jensen will make over 2.5 billion USD (depending on what the bidding BA’s paid for their credits). You can own Droobli for only 80 cents!

1910. Comment by Proof of Life | November 4th, 2009

      Can anyone prove to me that something called Droobli exists? I mean real proof? I can find no mention of Droobli outside of Droobli websites which may be lying in saying that something called Droobli exists. I’ve searched newspapers in four countries but to no avail. Does Droobli exist? The so-called “business model” suggests that Droobli doesn’t exist because that would be unworkable. Also, the lack of advertising points to the fact that it doesn’t exist. When Joe the plumber is more well-known than “a global shopping portal combined with an incredible business opportunity to make untold riches” then something stinks.

      Someone prove that Droobli exists!

1911. Comment by kees | November 4th, 2009

      Proof of Life, here you are, non-Droobli news-report:

      “Launch of Droobli.com in China”

      http://www.prestin-international.com/index.jsp?ACTION=GONEWS&NEWS1=36

      “August 2005?
      “Droobli.com has launched it’s trading site, and initiated operations in China. Following the trend of many other successful E-Commerce businesses, Droobli.com has established a strong, and growing presence in China.

      During the Beijing Convention of E-Commerce in China, Droobli.com launched officially its site, presenting the various features this worldwide Internet trading portal has to offer.
      CEO Micheal Jenson, and several higher management officers were present at the Beijing Convention.”

      

1912. Comment by Jason Switzer | November 4th, 2009

      Here are some highlights from the Droobli North American Tour….

      Not bad for a company that is going to “implode” (as some of you have put it)

      This site has now become better than the comics in the paper. So much mindless ramble from so many uneducated individuals. You come on here and bash a company you know nothing about and then copy and paste all your facts since the concept of original thought is alien to you. But, considering that 99% of you don’t even have the balls to use your real names, I am not surprised. I will wave to all of you from the top!

      1) Droobli bought out Lariat and Droobli now owns the Cinch and Connect. The
      basic form of Cinch/Connect (what it is today) will be integrated into
      the Droobli Network backoffice and will be FREE starting in January
      2010. It will be part of why BA’s pay the yearly $175 fee

      2) The Cinch and GroobLi.com are being optimized to run as a phone
      application to accommodate countries like China and India where there
      are less home computers, but everyone has a phone that can run apps.

      3) Droobli is currently creating distribution houses all over the world and
      on March 1, 2010, GroobLi will be open for distribution in 98% of
      countries in the world.

      4) November 2009, the Australian auction site opens and is globally linked with US.

      5)The merge with the mall company is now complete and droobli is now a
      publicly traded company with an official US office in Florida

1913. Comment by kees | November 4th, 2009

      Hi Mr. Switzer

      1) Droobli didn’t “buy out” Lariat, they just bought the software from Lariat.

      2) That’s great, I hope this project will go better than the failed 2005 Droobli launch in China.

      3) Finally! We’ve been waiting for that about 6 years after the first promises were made by TradingValues back in 2003, and after all the endless Droobli “Global Trading” start-ups and re-launches in 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2208 and 2009.

      4) Ummm, no, didn’t you read the 30 Oct. Newsletter?
      The Australian site failed to launch as promised in Sept/Oct/Nov. Now it will open in March 2010.
      Until then, Australians and New Zealanders can bid on the US site. And pay “slightly higher” shipping costs.

      5) Droobli isn’t a publicly traded company.
      Droobli, or rather CG Holdings Ltd, is now a wholly-owned subsidiary of MediocreNet Group Technologies Inc. This company is listed with its penny-stock on the OCT BB. (ticker symbol MEDG)

      Btw. Have you been able to sell your “BRONZE Business Associate spots incl 800 credits for only $100!” yet?

1914. Comment by Only Facts | November 4th, 2009

      Kees

      Thanks for the China report. I mentioned this several months ago but could find no collaborating evidence so put it on the back burner. At the time Bob stated he doubted it happened as it would be very stupid. He was right it was very stupid. So now we can add China to Spain and Denmark. With your calculations on postage to Australia try the postcode (zipcode) 2000 this is the code for Sydney City. By the way the term is Aussie no Ozzie, that was a puppet ostrich on television here. Mind you an ostrich is very apt for this conversation.

      Jason Switzer

      I wish to address a couple of points.

      You say “So much mindless ramble from so many uneducated individuals.” On this point I totally agree with you.

      You say “You come on here and bash a company you know nothing about…”

      Jason the one thing this site has proven is the anti-Droobli people know a lot more about the company than the pro-Droobli people. Did you know about China? Did you know about Rik McCoy? Did you know the independent legal opinion was from a member of the management team? Did you Know the shopping porthole has shut down in Europe?

      “…… then copy and paste all your facts since the concept of original thought is alien to you.”

      Where did you get your points 1,2,3,4,5 from??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

      “But considering that 99% of you don’t even have the balls to use your real names, I am not surprised.”

      Please remember the anti-Droobli people are not trying to get people to link to their site ( by the way when I try to link to yours it doesn’t work. You may want to look into that.)

      You say “I’ll wave to you all from the top.’ With respect Jason you would still be waving upward.

      Now while I could go on and on about point 5 (Kees has already made it clear…..again) I will simply ask you to show me where Droobli is on the exchange. Simple enough. You may even cut and paste.

      I am also curious how you went with your fire sale. I would like to remind people that are reading this and seriously considering Droobli that people like Jason are in fact offering you business advice. Would you really want to take advice from a person who believes good business is taking over an 80% loss on an investment. You be the judge.

1915. Comment by Cheryl | November 4th, 2009

      I have read a few comments, I am discusted at the insaults in this blog. Are these comments being written by very unhappy, nasty and spoilt children who just can’t succeed and don’t won’t the other children to be happy and use their own judgement and have a go? I am a BA in Droobli, I haven’t got any BA’s under me, but I have very close friends who are hugely successful in Droobli. I will continue to let other know of this great opportunity and if they choose to follow it, it is their choice. For most people, they can continue to work for a BOSS, who makes all the money, and gives us a tiny tiny bit, or they can’t try to grab hold of their own destiny, again, it is their choice, whether it is Droobli or another business like this. The unfair thing for potential BA’s is that some on them find this site, read it, and scared. Reality is that if it was a SCAM, companies such as all the Major Department Stores in America that are on the Shopping Portal wouldn’t have a bar of it. This Blog can make up a persons mind to keep working for a BOSS, retire broke and miserable, instead of a chance and hope for something much better. AGAIN, LET PEOPLE DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES!!

1916. Comment by kees | November 4th, 2009

      Thanks Only Facts, and good to know now it’s Aussies and not Ozzies
      I still have some more info on the failed 2005 China launch that I hope to present soon here.

      Mr. Switzer, maybe you can explain how the “Tyler Family” is winning so much Express Auctions for ZERO dollars?
      Please see my earlier comment nr. 1892, or view this google doc:
      http://docs.google.com/View?id=d9xs9vm_129d8dskk
      (it’s too long to post here, I don’t have website or blog to post it on and thus a google doc seems like a nice solution)

      (mmm, now that I think of it, maybe I *should* start a blog about some of the early and/or now-purged-from-official-Droobli-history events that current Droobli Associates don’t seem to know or care about…)

      Mr. Switzer, can you please also explain how Mexican consumers can get “great savings” on the North American Droobli site auctions with shipping costs starting at $67.95 (1 shipping point, e.g. for a CD/DVD) and going all the way up to $285.95 (10 shipping points, for the heavier items like tv’s etc)

      Same for some of the European countries (see my post nr. 1732)

      And why has the European shopping portal been closed down?

      And how come only about 1900 (Xpress + Unique Bid) auctions have been completed in the last 15 months or so?

      How can Droobli claim “Europe is a huge success” when the alleged millions of Droobli customers there have only bought about 1900 items in 15 months?

      What’s Droobli’s definition of “success” then?

      I’m glad you seem to know so much about Droobli and care so much for the facts.
      Looking forward to your factual answers, thank you

1917. Comment by Cheryl | November 4th, 2009

      Hey, I just checked out a lot of other businesses on the net and guess what, they all have some one with a Blog claiming them to be Scams, a lot of these people have never tried the products or the businesses, guess they are just a lot of stay at home people with plenty of time on their hands and no life. PS. I am just on my morning of.

1918. Comment by Dr J | November 4th, 2009

      Dear Cheryl,

      Ignore the poor English communication skills exhibited in your two posts. (You must go back and finish your education. That is why you’ve probably had trouble finding a job. For an adult, you have poor spelling, punctuation and some trouble with grammar.)

      Now, about your point about this blog. You think people here should leave people alone to “make up their own minds”. However if people get in the grips of a drooblipimp or a drooblidiot, they can be fed a lot of misinformation. Surely they should look at both sides? Often people with poor education levels are confused by this balanced approach since they lack certain critical analytical faculties. This is why the uneducated and business/employment failures are drawn to Droobli. They are desperate and will clutch at anything that promises “quick riches” for “doing nothing”.

      Also, please don’t believe everything a person tells you. I’m talking about the so-called “close friends” of yours who have supposedly “made a bundle” from Droobli. Do you really know their financial details fully? Most drooblidiots are embarrassed to talk about their failures with Droobli. For them Droobli has just proven to them that you can’t make money for doing nothing. It’s an old lesson, Cheryl, but still true.

      Could I get your resume on my desk? I may have a real job for you.

1919. Comment by G.M. | November 4th, 2009

      Spin factor actors just keep on going ! It’s like it’s like, oh never mind.

1920. Comment by Only Facts | November 4th, 2009

      Hi Cheryl

      To touch on a few of your points.

      Yes at times I get disgusted at some of the insults however, a vast majority of them are simply a retaliatory response to the nonsense some pro-Droobli people keep harping on about when you have proved to them over and over again beyond a doubt using third party independent sources that what they are saying is simply incorrect.

      If the children were to use their own judgement, instead of totally relying on Droobli doctrine, there would be no need for this this site. Can I point out their has never been, in over 5 years, a positive news article, web page, blog, or even a sentence that has not come from Droobli itself. absolutely nothing.

      I assume your very close friends are the ones that sighed you up. Did they mention the Droobli bankruptcies to you, or the failed attempts to launch droobli? Did they tell you about the dubious past of some of the management team? Did they tell you Droobli figures don’t add up? Did they tell you the success in Europe is highly exaggerated? would you have joined if they did? The chances are no, they didn’t tell you. The reason can only be put down one of two possibilities.

      1. They didn’t know. Yet I am sure they would have said to you that have looked deeply into this

      business, and it is fine. This means they didn’t look at anything that didn’t come from Droobli. An

      extremely common problem.

      2. They did know. Yet these dear friends of yours are willing to lie to get you to sign up.

      Remember Cheryl, no matter how much crap goes on within this blog each fact can be independently confirmed. Droobli can not say that.

      PS.

      The major US department stores are not associated with Droobli, they are associated with Medianet. Most do not know who Droobli is. In earlier posts Walmart states they have no association with Droobli whatsoever, even though Droobli claimed they were in partnership with them.

      Please Cheryl, look beyond the crap and find the facts.

1921. Comment by beavis | November 4th, 2009

      Cheryl will be selling her remaining tokens on eBay within six months.

1922. Comment by Dr J | November 4th, 2009

      I want to run critical thinking classes. I want to help the desparate people out there who have nothing so they are drawn to Droobli. We must help them. They risk losing everything plus their dignity. No human should have to face that.

      Why doesn’t everyone just love each other and stop trying to sign them up to stupid get rich quick schemes? When will some say stop pushing us around? Stop using us to get your monthly “team quota”. People don’t want to be bothered by Drooblidiots. I think Drooblidiots should tell their relatives and friends that they are Drooblidiots so that the friends and relatives could stop inviting them to social functions. Drooblidiots need to be isolated. I didn’t say arrested.

1923. Comment by beavis | November 4th, 2009

      I think all of the Drooblidiots should just listen to Britney.

1924. Comment by Only Facts | November 4th, 2009

      Normally I wouldn’t stoop this low but after Beavis last post 1923 I couldn’t help my self.

      Britney is in Australia now and her top ticket price is AUS $1500 to hear her lip sync. You can hear Gene lip sync Droobli here for nothing!!!!! Boom Boom. Oops I did it again.

1925. Comment by kees | November 5th, 2009

      This is what I’ve been able to find so far about the big mystery 2005 Droobli China launch:

      Information, quotes and references are mainly derived from data publicly available through google and the web.archive.org, e.g.:
      h t t p :// web.archive.org / web / * / ###.com

      Note: web.archive.org pages have the date of the archived webpage implemented in the url,
      formatted like:
      h t t p: // web.archive.org / web / year month day ### / http://www.###.###

      ——————————————
      28 – 29 Aug 2005:
      Droobli launches in China through its Cinese partner ChinaIBC
      (info from danish site droobli-info.dk, maintained by a danish Droobli B.A.)

      http://www.droobli-info.dk/n_omdroobli_china_ibc.html

      google translation
      ( http://translate.google.com/translate_t# )
      of the danish page (with a tiny bit of help from me) is as follows:

      [[ Collaborator/Partner China IBC

      28th-29th August 2005 GroobLi-Asia is opened.

      Opening (of) the festival will be sent via 300 television stations to 25% of world population. Think of what it could mean for you and your business if you put your GroobLi Shop into the shopping center, where all TV viewers click into GroobLi, to see what it is is. Remember: A GroobLi-Shop only costs € 49.00 for the first 12 months.

      Eric Wang says:
      E-commerce is increasing rapidly in Asia, where you want to buy products from Europe and America, and it may help Droobli when (the) portal is WorldWide. ]]

      ——————————————
      29 Aug 2005:
      Droobli launches in China (many photos on that page)
      (info from danish site droobli-info.dk)
      * non-Danish versions lead to droobli-international.com
      * China info is ONLY on the danish version

      http://www.droobli-info.dk/n_omdroobli_se_billederne.html

      google translation
      ( http://translate.google.com/translate_t# )
      of the danish page (with a tiny bit of help from me) is as follows:

      [[ Then dawned the great GroobLi-day. On 29th August 2005 GroobLi-Asia was opened.

      GroobLi opens in China

      GroobLi has now officially opened up the Chinese market at a major conference in Beijing. It means that in the near future (it) will be easier to find suppliers of Chinese goods on GroobLi.
      The largest association of local Chinese TV stations, radio and Internet - Media Commerce ran from 29 - 31. - 31 August a big expo in Beijing. For Media Commerce, which is the absolute top within the very popular TV Shops in China, the aim was precisely to raise the Chinese world.

      GroobLi as honorary guest
      Conference was attended by business people and delegations from around the world - particularly European, Asian and American. The 15-strong GroobLi delegation was invited as guest of honor along with GroobLis Chinese cooperation partner China IBC, and was followed closely by the Chinese press, already from the first day.

      GroobLis official opening
      Founder Bobby Jensen acted as one of the conference's keynote speakers, and opened on the morning of 31th August GroobLi officially in China. GroobLi participated as the sole representative of e-commerce through trade portal.

      Among those present GroobLis official opening was also the Chinese Interior, and representatives from the Chinese business elite.

      Edge in the Chinese market
      GroobLi means for the conference and the official opening of a safe and strong lead portal trade within the Chinese market. Other large and famous trading portals that had applied for participation, would have had to manage with a disappointing rejection.

      Several Chinese shops in GroobLi
      Henceforth, GroobLi increasingly (will) become a platform for even Chinese Business to Business shops. This means that GroobLi can now offer its users an enhanced and easy access to Chinese suppliers, contacts and products which under normal circumstances would be difficult to access.

      Inspiration And new contacts
      Beyond (the) Conference and Expo GroobLi delegation visited a number of successful and emerging Chinese companies, and was invited to the meetings and business dinners with business representatives from around the world. This has led to many new relationships and contacts that opens up even more opportunities for GroobLi in the future ... ]]

      =============================================

      # NOTES:
      ——————————————
      1 # On an archived page of Droobli.com, dated 12 Dec 2005
      http://web.archive.org/web/20051212133440/http://www.droobli.com/about/contact
      there is an Asian contact/support adress listed:

      [[ GroobLi Asian Support and Development Centre
      ChinaIBC ( Shanghai)
      Mingshen Center Building, 26 Floor
      No. 3131 Kaixuan Rd.
      Shanghai, CHINA 20030 ]]

      ——————————————
      2 # Droobli’s August-2005 launch in China has also been reported by Prestin International on a page that is dated “2006-05-02″. Some photos are included.

      http://www.prestin-international.com/index.jsp?ACTION=GONEWS&NEWS1=36

      ——————————————
      3 # Droobli’s Chinese partner “ChinaIBC” has no working webpage presently, and I don’t know if they’re still in business.

      On a page archived 4 Feb 2005
      http://web.archive.org/web/20050204130747/www.chinaibc.com/mission.shtml
      it says:

      [[ OUR MISSIONS ARE:
      …To advise Chinese business on strategies& practices
      for going globe.
      …To consult foreign business on strategies & practices
      for entering China market. ]]

      Through the web-archive for chinaibc.com no mention of the name “Droobli” has been found.

      There is however this sole reference to a “European Trading Portal” on a webpage archived 26 Jun 2006 (ten months after Droobli’s launch in China with ChinaIBC as partner):
      http://web.archive.org/web/20060622045411/http://chinaibc.com/china/index.php

      [[ ChinaIBC hereby makes the claim that without ChinaIBC's permission, no European trading portal is serving as the strategic partner. We do not endorse any activities from the European trading portal website. ]]

      ——————————————
      4 # On several archived pages of DroobliNetwork, from 24 Jul 2006 up to 29 Aug 2006, e.g.:
      http://web.archive.org/web/20060829064157/http://www.drooblinetwork.com/Default.aspx?ID=223
      there is a link with title [[ Droobli opens in China ]]

      The link is
      http://www.drooblinetwork.com/Default.aspx?ID=223&M=News&NewsID=8&PID=273

      However, neither this link nor the potentially archived link
      http://web.archive.org/web/20060814024613/http://www.drooblinetwork.com/Default.aspx?ID=223&M=News&NewsID=8&PID=273
      yield any results.

      ——————————————
      5 # I do not know exactly when the last references to any China launch were made on the various Droobli websites, but the one mentioned in note 4 (DroobliNetwork, dated 29 Aug 2006) seems to have been (one of) the latest.

      However, references to a “marketing and support center” in “Asia” were still made on the droobli.com site until 21 Aug 2007:
      http://web.archive.org/web/20070821030513/www.drooblinetwork.com/GroobLi.com-5.aspx

      [[ GroobLi was founded in 2003 by a young, dynamic, expansive and success-oriented company. The main office is located in USA with marketing and support centers in Europe and Asia. This means that the actual GroobLi group internally is also a global business. ]]

      ——————————————
      6 # additional info from the Droobli.com page, dated 12 Dec 2005 and mentioned in note # 1:
      http://web.archive.org/web/20051212133440/http://www.droobli.com/about/contact

      the Danish help/support centre, located at:
      [[ "GroobLi European Support and Development Centre
      GroobLi Danmark Aps
      Ibsvej 1-3 st.
      DK-6000 Kolding
      Denmark" ]]

      and Company info as follows:

      [[ Parent Company
      GroobLi is a Trading Portal owned by:
      T.V.I.S. 2003 Corporation Ltd.
      3511 Silverside Road, Suite 105
      Wilmington Delaware 19810
      Delaware 19810, USA
      Registration number: 030412022-3667260 ]]

      ——————————————

1926. Comment by kees | November 5th, 2009

      PS: info on registration of T.V.I.S. 2003 Corporation Ltd
      (T.V. probably stands for Trading Values, the forerunner of Droobli Network)

      file number 3667260

      https://delecorp.delaware.gov/tin/controller
      # this link doesn’t always seem to work, but with the file number you could try some other links on that site to find:

      ——————–
      Entity Details THIS IS NOT A STATEMENT OF GOOD STANDING

      File Number: 3667260
      Incorporation Date/Formation Date: 06/23/2003
      (mm/dd/yyyy)

      Entity Name: T.V.I.S. 2003 CORPORATION LTD.
      Entity Kind: CORPORATION Entity Type: GENERAL
      Residency: DOMESTIC State: DE

      REGISTERED AGENT INFORMATION

      Name: No registered agent on record.

      ——————–

1927. Comment by kees | November 5th, 2009

      Droobli-China info now also available at:

      http://docs.google.com/View?id=d9xs9vm_2f7g9jwgg

1928. Comment by Danny | November 5th, 2009

      Hi guys, im not here to make any accusations but sadly i enrolled in droobli just 2 days ago…i live in australia and people here are talking about it like its the best thing since sliced bread. Since reading this article we’ve written an email to the australian corruption commission asking them about the company, does anyone have any solid facts about the company or a link with undeniable proof? I know there may already be one but i didnt have time to read 2000 comments

1929. Comment by kees | November 5th, 2009

      Btw,
      It’s interesting to see how 2 apparent newcomers (mid 2009) to the online auctions and/or auction+retail business are doing in Australia & New Zealand as compared to Droobli (preparing, launching, silently un-launching again & then re-launching again since 2003):

      Compare this ( http://i38.tinypic.com/nqa41w.jpg ) combined (by me) Alexa info for:

      # greysonline.com – auctions & retail
      # bidrivals.com – “fun” auctions
      # droobli.com – originally a ‘traditional’ eBay clone – with individual seller shops (apart from their main source of income via the ‘ambassador’/'business associates’ “opportunity” schemes, that already started in 2003), and since July 2008 (after closing their original marketplace in Europe that had been active since 2004) only concentrating on the “Fun Shopping” idea (again, apart from their main source of income via the business associates’ “opportunity” schemes)

      Combined Alexa traffic info (05 nov 09) in one jpg:
      (please check the stats for yourself on Alexa)
      http://i38.tinypic.com/nqa41w.jpg

      Notice the viral explosive fast growth of greysonline and bidrivals?

      And notice the “rank” of these in Australia and New Zealand compared to the rank of Droobli down under?

      Amazing! How can the Almighty Droobli be beaten so dramatically?

      (note: I know Alexa data isn’t “100% truth”,
      however: when 2 or more websites are considered, one does get an informative & valid ‘relative’ performance of the sites compared)

1930. Comment by kees | November 5th, 2009

      Hi Danny

      I understand that member “Only Facts” is located in Australia, and he has given some very informative info, also on how to possibly get your money back – IF you would want that – of course this would be totally your own decision…

      I’m sure ‘Only Facts’ will reply to you, but in the meanwhile you can read some of his informative comments on this page.

      press Control + f simultaniously on your keyboard and you’ll get a search-box for this page.

      type in: Comment by Only Facts
      and use the up/down arrow to read his comments

      e.g.
      comments:
      1495
      1528
      1594
      ==> 1710 (reply to Jack Daddy, question how to possibly get back money paid as BA))
      1777
      1814
      1823
      ==> 1845 (reply to Jack Daddy again)

      Also interesting are the comments of Droobli-fans like Gene & Bob, who often seem to prefer to tap-dance around serious questions raised.

      You said:
      “people here are talking about it like its the best thing since sliced bread”
      Of course these are your “friends” that want you to “benefit” from this “amazing business opportunity”…?

      As for your question:
      “does anyone have any solid facts about the company or a link with undeniable proof?”

      I’m afraid you *will* have to spend some time reading this thread, starting with the Openings post of Eaglescout…. and then eventually make up your own mind…

      There are also some threads about Droobli on other sites,
      like:
      http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1278895

      and sites like
      * scam ‘dot’ com * and * fraudwatchers ‘dot’ org * (search for droobli)

      I’m sure you’ll get some more replies that may be more useful than mine.
      Take care

1931. Comment by kees | November 5th, 2009

      If you haven’t done so already, please also be sure to carefully read Droobli-Network’s:

      “Terms and Conditions”
      http://www.drooblinetwork.com/1-32/terms_and_conditions

      and

      “Statement of Policies and Procedures”
      pdf file at: http://www.drooblinetwork.com/download.php?ID=1227

      for Droobli Business Associates.

      (probably the ‘rules’ for Australians and New Zealanders will be somewhat different, but here you can get at least an impression what it means to be involved with Droobli)

1932. Comment by kees | November 5th, 2009

      Please notice (in the pdf file “Statement of Policies and Procedures”):

      ———————–
      SECTION 7 – PRODUCT GUARANTEES, RETURNS AND INVENTORY REPURCHASE
      7.1 – Returns by Retail Customers
      A retail customer who makes a purchase of $25.00 or more via a face to face meeting
      with a Business Associate has three business days (72 hours, excluding Sundays and legal
      holidays) after the sale or execution of a contract to cancel the order and receive a full
      refund consistent with the cancellation notice on the receipt (five days for Alaska residents).

      ==> Similarly, a new Business Associate has three business days (5 days for Alaska
      residents) to cancel his or her eBiz Kit and product purchase and receive a full refund.

      ==> Business Associates must orally inform customers and new Business Associates of their
      right to rescind a purchase or an order within 72 hours (5 days for Alaska residents).

      ————————–

      I guess something similar will apply in Australian ‘legal context’ …

1933. Comment by kees | November 5th, 2009

      PS first and foremost:

      don’t believe all the hype about the “HUGE success” of Droobli in Europe in 2006, or 2007, or was it 2008?

      It never has been a “HUGE success”, right from the start when their first ‘global trading marketplace’ eBay-clone version appeared online in May 2004, up to not even when the amount of items in their seller’s shops reached the all-time high of almost 174,000 – most of which were Music CD’s (111,054) and Movie DVD’s (30,333), on April 5th, 2007.

      http://web.archive.org/web/20070405201131/http://www.droobli.com/

      Immediately followed by this exaggerated happy news story (on one of their BA’s sites):
      translated:
      “Droobli grows day by day and now offers around 1/4 million of items in the Marketplace and the various shops”
      http://news.preisklopper.de/allgemein/drooblicom-bietet-nun-eine-million-produkte-an/

      This all-time high steadily dwindled down again to about 54,000+ items on Februari 2nd, 2008:
      http://web.archive.org/web/20080209182452/www.droobli.com/kaufen.cfm
      and then finally in July 2008 they closed the whole eBay-clone thing down because of massive seller fraud of (some) sellers towards buyers, and because eBay had just lost a case against LMVH and Droobli got scared:
      http://news.preisklopper.de/allgemein/drooblicom-schockt-kunden/

      A year before, in June 2007, they had started their first ‘fun auction’ type of thing (“SmartWin” which is now “Unique Bid”), and when they closed down their eBay-clone marketplace they re-launched the Droobli site again, in July 2008, but now with 3 types of ‘fun auctions’: Xpress, Unique Bid and Zero. Later on they linked to the much hyped Kelkoo shop-comparing engine, which has vanished from the site since a few months again now. Also the Zero auction has vanished in the mean time.

      Droobli’s original (since 2003) eBay-clone like ‘global trading’ marketplace plan was what attracted the most consumers in the beginning, but even then this was not very succesful at all.

      If it was so successful they wouldn’t have liquidated it in July 2008.

      Only then the presently hyped “Reverse Auction” games were developed, but now the Droobli propaganda machine acts as if this “Reverse Auction” was there all along, from the beginning already (2004, 2006 or 2008, depending on the source) and that this always has been the HUGE bringer of success and the “proven” business strategy of Droobli.

      Nothing is further from the truth. Their eBay-clone like “worldwide trading portal” has been active, non-active and re-launched again various times from May 2004 onwards. Only in July 2008 this has been replaced with the Reverse Auction ‘fun’ mania.

      They started promoting their ‘world wide trading platform’ plans & collecting significant amounts of money from their “Ambassadors” (later re-baptized into “Business Associates”) already way before even their first limited Global-Marketplace attempts appeared online in Danmark, Spain and Germany, some 5 to 3 years ago.

      Collecting money from their Ambassadors/Business Associates has always been & still is their biggest money-maker system.

      Have you ever seen any media advertisement/promotion campaigns aimed at ordinary consumers to attract attention to their shopping sites? Isn’t their main promotional effort concentrated on the BA-side of things? Doesn’t this mean they already collect loads of money (from their BA’s) before there even is a ‘product’ (shopping site with items to buy) available for the regular consumers?

      Shouldn’t they take care of the consumer side of things first and then later (when there ARE consumers buying) think-up nice bonus-schemes for their promotors?

      So many failures have happened that you won’t normally hear from BA’s looking for a downline.

      In 2005 they went to China with big plans, I’m sure many BA’s paid enthousiastically to become part of that bright outlook.
      The China operation was silently closed down & purged from official Droobli history.

      In 2007 they bullishly announced Droobli would go public in 2008 on the London stock exchange. BA’s were encouraged heavily to buy ‘units’ (private shares) in Droobli (or even loan the money to be able to purchase them from Droobli) now that they were still cheap & before they would ‘miss the boat’.
      It never happened.

      Now for the whole year of 2009 they’ve had this huge hype about the Australian platform launching in September. Then it became October, then it became November. And now it won’t happen till March 2010. In the meantime you can however bid on the US Droobli site, but its in US dollars, shipping costs are way higher, and in principle New Zealanders will have to pay custom tax on anything imported from the US. Australains will have to pay custom tax above a certain buy-price for the item.

      Again: they made big money from new BA’s without delivering their lofty promises or delivering any real product to the regular consumer.

      Many unfortunate events and failures have been purged from “official” Droobli “history”. They don’t want their potential new Business Associates to know about this.

      Be careful out there.

1934. Comment by kees | November 5th, 2009

      PS2
      All this is just my *personal opinion* of course.

      I encourage the readers to do their own research & due diligence.

      Investigate my claims & comments (and those of the other droobli-critics) but do the same for the pro-droobli claims & comments.

      Consider the sources quoted by all parties, pro & con.

      Only YOU can and must decide what’s best for YOU

1935. Comment by Bob | November 5th, 2009

      Danny,
      I recommend you read the terms and conditions, and policies, and procedures. I NEVER let anyone buy into any business without doing that, be it a franchise, signing a basic business agreement, or buying the rights to a GroobLi store.

      If you read them you would see that you have 3 days to try it out. If you really feel you want your money back. Send in a support ticket right away before the 72 hours is up!

      It’s not the “best thing since sliced bread”, it takes hard work, and it is a business. People who say that kind of garbage don’t know what they are talking about. They will never be succesful, their business will explode, fizzle out, and then will generate a lot of mad, and disappointed people.

      To be succesfful, which, if you choose, you can:
      You need to effectively advertise, and acquire customers. Show them the value, and especially, if you are doing partner programs (www.GroobLiPartner.com) like I am, help the partner with their advertising campaign so they are successful.

      You have a virtual store that takes work, you need training, and should never sign people up, into the business, unless you are going to give them the training too. If there are a few unethical people in GroobLi or any other Network Marketing Co. signing people up to make a commission and move on it would be no surprise. We see it in many businesses.

      Understand the nuts and bolts of your business, how to give value to your customers, and make it work, or don’t do it.

      Sorry to be so harsh Danny, but I see too much mud flying around. If someone brought you into the business excited, and saying you were going to make a ton of money then shame on them. But if you saw how you can build a viable additional steam of income, them go for it and make it happen.

      That’s what I did, and I am glad I did.

      Remember; this may be your last day to get a refund though.

      GroobLi can be a very good business…if done correctly with training. I have never seen any business or career that did not require experience, and training to be successful. Why do people think GroobLi, or Network Marketing is so different.

      Do it right people, or don’t do it at all. We need to be concerned for other peoples success, and giving value.

      In the US there is tremendous value, no shipping issues, and as they duplicate to the rest of the world, you will have the same. If you are in Au and have to deal with temporary higher shipping costs to build your business, then take advantage, and do it. It will take you several month to put things into place and train anyway.

1936. Comment by Bob | November 5th, 2009

      Oh,
      After I posted I read after #1931 by Kees…Thanks for helping Danny Kees. (don’t have time to read all this stuff either)

1937. Comment by kees | November 5th, 2009

      Bob, thank you for your thoughtful comment to Danny, I appreciate that

      Too bad though you don’t have time to read “all this stuff”, it might enlighten you further

      Take care.

1938. Comment by hahahah | November 5th, 2009

      My favorite MLM kool aid drinker was t.proia
      It’s even funnier when you find out he was a 19 year old kid with an emo cut.

      http://www.myspace.com/tproia

1939. Comment by Only Facts | November 5th, 2009

      Well said Bob.

      See were not so different. All I am attempting to do on this site is supply information to potential Droobli customers that Droobli itself will not release. As I have said many, many times don’t take what I say as gospel. Undertake your own research utilising the information and links provided, then make up your own mind. There are people out there that will not be concerned with what they learn, however they will have the research to make an informed decision. Not so long ago there was a post on this site reiterating the old saying If you give a man fish etc; But if you teach him to fish etc. This is what I am trying to do. Even the most ardent Droobli supporter has a high probability of failure, as with all MLM, next time hopefully their research will be more effective.

      Danny

      It does become difficult to give advise on this issue as each case is individual. If you keep pushing the non-disclosure aspect and the gambling aspect, by this I mean ask for written proof it is not gamming from your states gamming commission and threaten to go to Fair Trading, they should comply. The fact is Droobli does not know if this concept is legal in Australia or anywhere else for that matter, and will not know until it is tested. For this testing to occur a government department must get involved, these departments will not get involved until they have received a certain amount of complaints. Droobli will try everything for this not to happen, so it is in their interest to comply with your request before any complaints are made out side Droobli. Quick question Danny, did the person that signed you up give you a time frame of when the Australian shopping porthole would be up and running, and if so when.

1940. Comment by beavis | November 5th, 2009

      Kees said:

      “PS2
      All this is just my *personal opinion* of course.”

      I’d say your postings are far more fact then just an opinion. Glad you weren’t working for any of my ex-wive’s divorce attorneys

1941. Comment by Jack Daddy | November 6th, 2009

      My ‘upline’ told me that Droobli would be opening in October.
      Then he mysteriously forgot about that and thought he told everyone it was November to co-incide with the global launch that was meant to happen this month.

      Now its March.

      I suppose given that I’m well past my ‘3 days return investment’ window, I won’t be able to get my coin back?

1942. Comment by Shaun "Due Diligence" Premo | November 6th, 2009

      So Danny wants his money back? Why? Danny, your Drooblipimp told you to do your “due diligence”. You did that didn’t you? So you did your “due diligence” and signed with Droobli. Why are you upset now?

      You deserve to be screwed. You didn’t do any “due diligence” did you? Morons like you deserve all you get from Droobli. So you’ll lose some money. So what? Next time you idiot maybe you’ll check things out. Don’t complain. Even your fellow Drooblidiots told you to do your “due diligence”. They knew you wouldn’t. What a moron. Danny, please don’t contribute to this blog. You have nothing to say. You’re just an idiot who deserves Droobli.

      You pathetic moron!

1943. Comment by nasa | November 6th, 2009

      What an entertaining forum.
      This reminds me of the old Virtual Beneficiary Trust scam. (VBT)
      That was about 15 years ago and it was where I did my expensive education on such scams. Yep I lost a few thousand to learn the lesson. But learn I did and learnt well.
      Once VBT collapsed I accepted the loss along with the education.
      The really amusing part is that I know other people who even after VBT collapsed just couldn’t accept that they had been scammed. They hang to the dream the rest of their lives. Its incredible really. I know of one older couple that went down with VBT and even after it collapsed they just wouldn’t accept that the money was gone. Now the old guy is dead and the poor old woman really shouldn’t be living way out in the country and she knows this . But if you tell her to sell up and move closer to the city she will tell you that she cant leave that house because that is where VBT is going to send the money when it comes in. Haaa VBT was dead 15 years ago and she still clings to the dream.
      I know it should be once bitten twice shy. But some people just cant let the dream go It’s a shame really that these scammers give false hope to uneducated people.

1944. Comment by kees | November 6th, 2009

      Just started the “Droobli-Unofficial” blog

      http://droobli-unofficial.blogspot.com/

1945. Comment by Only Facts | November 6th, 2009

      The Tyler Family is without a doubt the luckiest family that has ever walked the earth. Out of the thousands and thousands of happy customers Droobli has they have won 24 Zero Auctions and saved over $1000.00. However they obviously take their privcy very serious. Not one mention of them in Droobli material.

      This has become sad. Has Droobli ever stated the truth about anything??? It’s becoming nearly impossible to find something slightly accurate.

1946. Comment by kees | November 6th, 2009

      Well, here’s another lucky winner:
      EU Droobli member “dasdasdas0815″?

      see:
      www ‘dot’ scam ‘dot’ com/showthread.php?p=825422#post825422

      (the full correct url isn’t accepted by the board software)

1947. Comment by J. G. Newton | November 6th, 2009

      Droobli is not an Islamic front organization that so many believe it is. No profits or at least very few profits flow to the Arab world. “Droobli” may be an Arabic word but that is just a coincidence.

1948. Comment by Mandy Wilson | November 6th, 2009

      I agree with Newt. It is just a rumor.

1949. Comment by kees | November 7th, 2009

      Actually ‘droobli’ means also ‘double’ in Romanian.

      Btw, now available at
      http://droobli-unofficial.blogspot.com/ :

      Droobli’s “huge” success in Europe – part 1
      Droobli’s strange cases – part 1
      Droobli’s “TylerFamily”
      Droobli’s 2005 China launch

      

1950. Comment by kees | November 7th, 2009

      I never heard of this ‘islamic rumor’ … where did you hear/read that?

      If/when there is such a rumor maybe it was born because Bobby Jensen seems to have a residence on the Palm Jumeirah island in Dubai …?

1951. Comment by kees | November 7th, 2009

      To be fair to Droobli,
      I will now also list all the Press & News reports that *have* reported about the HUGE successes of the e-commerce side of Droobli’s business plans and their PROVEN track-record in the buying-customers/shopping experience.

      All these positive Press & News reports will span the era from 2004 (when Droobli’s first “Global Trading Portal” opened online) to the present, and will be ONLY from reliable, unbiased, professional financial, investors, business and e-commerce sources.

      Here they are:
      .
      .
      .
      .
      .
      .
      .
      .
      .
      etc.

1952. Comment by kees | November 7th, 2009

      …. ….

1953. Comment by Lars Ulrich | November 7th, 2009

      If Kees is right, then how come Droobliland will change the way we live? Also, isn’t Droobli bigger than ebay? No one would join Droobli if that were true. There must be a lot of newspaper articles and magazine articles. I bet the Wall Street Journal has written a lot about Droobli. I heard that Droobli saved Wall Street.

1954. Comment by kees | November 7th, 2009

      

1955. Comment by kees | November 7th, 2009

      Question:
      How can we measure the success of Droobli’s “FUN shopping” auctions e-commerce model in North America?

      Answer:
      Here’s an easy way to do it:

      http://droobli-unofficial.blogspot.com/2009/11/drooblis-success-in-north-america.html

1956. Comment by beavis | November 7th, 2009

      kees said:

      “Question:
      How can we measure the success of Droobli’s “FUN shopping” auctions e-commerce model in North America?”

      I hear Bobby Jensen has an eleven inch ruler that rounds up to twelve.

1957. Comment by Alf | November 7th, 2009

      What a load of croc….I have been involved with droobli the past 4 months .I have bought items off the site,and found the customer service to be second to none..With huge discounts.
      All should go to to the site and see for yourselves ,or find someone who is involved with the company .There’s
      thousands of them…
      This is better and as real as e-bay….

1958. Comment by beavis | November 7th, 2009

      “.There’s
      thousands of them…”

      Millions, Alf, millions. . .

1959. Comment by beavis | November 7th, 2009

      “Brice Wilson” is the lucky winner at Droobli. He got a $25 Subway card for 25 cents and a $59.95 retail value Lego Fire Station also for 25 cents. Well, it was good as long as he wasn’t in Australia or New Zealand with $75 shipping for the Legos. Oh, wait; never mind. The auction isn’t a problem as there is no way the selling price could have occurred as the difference between the selling price and the list price is not divisible be Droobli’s 25 cent increments. It was just another fraudulent Droobli auction. Move along; nothing to see here.

1960. Comment by Lars Ulrich | November 8th, 2009

      Droobli will one day buy a country. If you people don’t start co-operating it could be your country. One day Droobli will control the planet. Droobliland is only the beginning. Soon we will have a Droobli president. That’s be great. Droobli is already bigger than ebay. Bigger than Microsoft. Droobli is the biggest company on Earth already. Soon the Droobli space exploration and minerals exploitation arm will go pre-launch. The income from minerals mined on the moon will explode Droobli assets. It isn’t just viral anymore. This is pandemic. Cash streams become cash tsunamis. Make money while you sleep. I can hardly wait to go to bed.

      Your Droobli future is now. You do not have the right to resist. Sign up or else.

1961. Comment by Gary | November 8th, 2009

      Kees, or anyone else..

      Seeing as though the Aussie launch has been put off for another god knows how many more months? I was just wondering what the shipping costs would be roughly not to mention the reduced amount of items to bid on? I believe that every BA in OZ & NZ has the right to a full refund immediately. Droobli is an absolute joke! How sad, pathetic and basically a massive scam!

1962. Comment by kees | November 8th, 2009

      Hi Gary, shipping costs for AU can be viewed for each item on the US Droobli site that has a little AU flag displayed in/near the auction info.

      Click on an auction, look for the “Shipping costs: x points”, click the link and you’ll be presented with a breakdown of the shipping points/costs per country.

1963. Comment by Shaun "Due Diligence" Premo | November 8th, 2009

      Gary, you have no right to demand your money back for joining Droobli. They told you to do your “due diligence”. Did you? If you didn’t or if you only used information from Droobli sites then you’re a fool. You can’t demand money back for your mistake. What was it about Droobli that you thought “hey this is a great business opportunity”? Please tell us. We are curious about how your thinking processes work. What, it never seemed totally stupid to you? How come?

1964. Comment by beavis | November 8th, 2009

      Shaun “Due Diligence” Premo,

      You always have the right to seek recourse when you have been victimized by a scammer operating outside of the law. It’s the recovery that is questionable. Keep your eye on the ball, Shaun; Droobli is the scammer and Gary is a victim. Gary already learned an expensive lesson; you pounding on him is not helping him.

1965. Comment by Rough Framing Carpenter | November 9th, 2009

      All of you saying that Droobli is a scam – I’ll see you in court. You are making new people nervous and we need a lot more people to join up. I need more in my downline so that they produce cash streams to me. I’m only $50 or $60 a month with Droobli because so many are scared off. I think I will take you all to court. One at a time. Prove Droobli is a scam. That’s your words not mine. You are gonna pay big time sheep.

1966. Comment by Gary | November 9th, 2009

      Due D,

      In retrospect it seems completely moronic but as I said before I luckily didn’t buy a package of credits, I just joined up. I thought I’d wait a while then alas I stumbled upon this site and others and realised what the fuck was actually going on!!

      Anyway I over it now but I interested to know what people think of the delay in OZ?

      Cheers..

1967. Comment by kees | November 9th, 2009

      Gary, what do you mean by ‘joining up’?
      Registering for free as a (potential) buyer/customer?
      Or registering as a BA but only for buying the ’start-up’ kit (or however it’s called)?

1968. Comment by kees | November 9th, 2009

      A delay is typical for Droobli “launches”…

      From 2004 onward, Droobli “launches” typically were either delayed…. or: total failures …

      a few important examples:

      * The original 2004 launched eBay-clone-like “global trading portal” has proved to be a total failure when they finally & completely closed that down in July 2008 in Europe and started with the “fun shopping” auctions.

      * The 2005 China launch has proved to be a total failure.

      * The 2007 announced ‘going public’ on the London stock exchange has proved to be a total failure.

      * The much hyped Sept 2009 launch for AU was delayed till Oct, then Nov, and now *again* till March 2010…

      

1969. Comment by kees | November 9th, 2009

      and between 2004 and 2008, there have been quite some hick-ups and relaunches (incl. delays for the announced relaunces) for the various European Droobli versions, in e.g. Danmark, Spain or Germany …

1970. Comment by Gary | November 9th, 2009

      Thanks Kees,

      I guess it would of been the fee to be a BA without credits.. USD $175.00 Would be nice to get it back but not too fussed as I said I’m over it.. I still feel dissapointed that I wasn’t told the true story of what Droobli really is and the true history of the co. It’s actually been a great lesson for myself into the whole world of mlm and shown me what greed can make a person do.. Pretty sad really..

      p.s. I’m not saying all mlm’s are bad because there are some bone fide ones out there..

1971. Comment by beavis & beavis, Esq. | November 9th, 2009

      Gene The Village Drooblidiot said:

      “I think I will take you all to court. One at a time.”

      Me first! Me First!

1972. Comment by Joey | November 9th, 2009

      OMG. Cannot believe I just spent the last two hours reading this blog. Thank you to beavis, eaglescout, only Facts and others who have contributed constructive and useful information.
      I was approached last night by a good friend about Droobli. Was dubious from the word go, but wanted to look into it more. Thank-you for all the information and entertainment provided on this site.
      Obviously, I will not take part in this venture, and will be advising other Australians to also stay away. To the poor victims that have been scammed, I hope you have not lost too much as a result of this organisations deceit.
      To Bob, Gene, Michael and Stewart, you are doing a very good job of putting people off Droobli. To others who do not support Droobli on this site, thank you for your opinions, however, abusing people who are seeking information for the purpose of research is both boorish and vulgar and just makes you look like a bigot and idiot. It also does not help dissuade people from Droobli; it just makes people question the motive of the abusive commentator.
      Thank you again Eaglescout for the information and entertainment.
      Joey (The bemused Australian)

1973. Comment by Bobbobbobbob | November 9th, 2009

      ??????????????? lets talk substance! Is GroobLi worth using as a customer?

1974. Comment by Bobbobbobbob | November 9th, 2009

      well…I

1975. Comment by Bobbobbobbob | November 9th, 2009

      Crap! this site is freaking out! i was not ready to post!

1976. Comment by Bobbobbobbob | November 9th, 2009

      This is a joke…are you saving money as a customer or not?
      Let me help:

      http://www.restaurant.com/rdc_site.net/listings.aspx?pgn=gcp

      Duh…spend more or less. That is what most people want to know

      ???

1977. Comment by beavis & beavis, Esq. | November 9th, 2009

      OK, thank you for the broken link and for the comments (whatever they may mean).

1978. Comment by kees | November 9th, 2009

      Gary, glad you didn’t spend more money on this.
      Joey, I think many of the BA’s – especially the newly recruited ones – that try to lure people into their own downline don’t know much about Droobli themselves. They just believe the hype that’s been told to them by the higher-up honchos and then they try to pass on the same hype further down.

      Here’s some more possibly helpful info available:
      http://droobli-unofficial.blogspot.com/

1979. Comment by Shaun "Due Diligence" Premo | November 10th, 2009

      Kees why are you glad Gary didn’t spend more money on Droobli? His money gets distributed higher up. Doesn’t he have a warm glow about helping all the drooblidiots above him? He’s helping to create cash streams for those people higher up and that can’t be all bad. Gene will make some money because Gary joined. Don’t want to be the last one signing up though.

1980. Comment by Only Facts | November 10th, 2009

      Shaun

      From my point of view, I’m glad for Gary because he is a very rare Droobli participant. He is willing to see the truth not hide under a blanket of denials and justifications. If there were more like him, there would be less of us. If you notice there are less and less pro-Droobli people coming on this and other sites. Even the die hards are finding it difficult to argue with the facts now. I am however very interested to know what Gene is taking us to court for???????? A tip for you Gene, ask Droobli for advice. Hang on thats right they couldn’t do it either, oh well.

1981. Comment by beavis & beavis, Esq. | November 10th, 2009

      Only Facts said:

      “I am however very interested to know what Gene is taking us to court for????????”

      “Us”? No, me! I got dibs! Comment 1971 I got dibs that Gene the Village Drooblidiot takes me to court first. You’ll just have to get in line with the rest for your turn. I just hope they don’t hold the trial in DroobliLand.

1982. Comment by Shar Pei | November 11th, 2009

      In this world there are no accidents. If Droobli hadn’t been invented someone would have invented it. Know what I mean? People get what they deserve. If you’re stupid and greedy you get Droobli. It’s simple. Like fours monkeys on a trampoline.

1983. Comment by Junior Lofthouse | November 11th, 2009

      Droobli is running out of steam. Steam is made from the money of new recruits. Droobli needs all of you in its hour of direst need. Sign up for everything today. Don’t think, just do.

1984. Comment by kees | November 11th, 2009

      “Droobli’s confusion”
      http://droobli-unofficial.blogspot.com/

      When did Droobli start doing business?

      Droobli seems confused about that….

      Look at these archived company pages from the following dates:

      —————————————
      20 Aug 2006: archived page from drooblinetwork.com

      Briefly on GroobLi.com
      WORLDWIDE TRADING! – This is the mainstay of GroobLi.com and the essence according to which the founders developed the company.
      …
      GroobLi was founded in *2003* by a young, dynamic, expansive and success-oriented company. The main office is located in USA with marketing and support centers in Europe and Asia. This means that the actual GroobLi group internally is also a global business.

      —————————————
      25 December 2006: archived page from droobli.com

      A Hearty Welcome to GroobLi.com
      Trade without borders
      The Organisation GroobLi.com
      GroobLi.com was founded in Denmark in *2003* as a market place for border-crossing trade without language barriers.
      …
      Worldwide trade in one marketplace
      GroobLi links the world! GroobLi is a worldwide functioning trading portal that unites buyers and sellers and sets a new standard in e-commerce.

      —————————————
      26 Oct 2007: archived page from drooblinetwork.com

      GroobLi was founded in *2006* and is a young, dynamic, expansive and success-oriented company. The financial headquarters is located in the USA and the operational headquarters in Berlin, Germany. The GroobLi Group knows what it means to operate a global business.

      —————————————
      16 Apr 2008: archived page from drooblinetwork.com

      GroobLi was founded in *2006* and is a young, dynamic, expansive and success-oriented company. The financial headquarters is located in the USA and the operational headquarters in Berlin, Germany. The GroobLi Group knows what it means to operate a global business.

      —————————————
      02 Jul 2008: archived page from from drooblinetwork.com

      GroobLi was founded in *2003* and is a young, dynamic, expansive and success-oriented company. The financial headquarters is located in the USA and the operational headquarters in Berlin, Germany. The GroobLi Group knows what it means to operate a global business.

      —————————————
      31 Jul 2008: archived page from drooblinetwork.com

      GroobLi was founded in *2003* and is a young, dynamic, expansive and success-oriented company. The financial headquarters is located in the USA and the operational headquarters in Berlin, Germany. The GroobLi Group knows what it means to operate a global business.

      —————————————

      and their latest claim:

      23 Oct 2009: SEC filing Form 8-K:

      Business of GroobLi
      CG was organized in Cyprus on March 17, 2009, as a holding company for the GroobLi companies, which commenced doing business in October *2008*. Prior to that time, the persons and companies now associated with GroobLi carried on various internet auction activities, including reverse auctions and traditional auctions of the kind maintained by eBay.

      —————————————

      So, what is it Droobli?
      2003? 2006? or maybe even 2008?

1985. Comment by Rina Portlans | November 11th, 2009

      I’m in Junior Droobli and run the Droobli Social Nework site called “Droobli Future”. It’s great fun and free. Also, we have free credits and social events. We already have 12 million members.

      Our aim is to build the next generation of Droobli entrepreneurs. I’m 16 but as head of “Droobli Future” I have a lot of responsibility. This site is negative and I think some people are being scared off. But new ideas are scary. I want a positive Droobli future with more sunshine and rainbows. More unicorns and flowers. You guys seem to get off on anything negative.

1986. Comment by beavis | November 11th, 2009

      THEY BREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1987. Comment by Only Facts | November 11th, 2009

      No replicate

1988. Comment by kees | November 12th, 2009

      New post:
      “Droobli’s exaggeration – 2.3 mil vs 100k”
      at
      http://droobli-unofficial.blogspot.com/

      teaser quote from a 2007 Droobli “Certified Partner”:
      ————————
      “So far a 100.000+ registered customers think so, also more than 3000+ GroobLishop owners think so and I am sure you will come to share their opinion.
      (These official numbers are from early summer 2007)”
      ————————

      

1989. Comment by beavis | November 12th, 2009

      Aren’t they supposed to an 85 to 1 ratio of Drooblidiots to customers? If they are going to lie like this they need to keep their story straight. This is just too easy. But it will work on the Bobs and Genes of the world as they can’t remember what they had for breakfast.

1990. Comment by kees | November 12th, 2009

      Beavis! It’s not *lying*, it’s just *creating a more positive and more profitable new official history* for Droobli, you need to forget the old, less favorable history, that’s not important anymore!

      Btw, I’m highly inspired, yet another new blog-post:

      “Will this post cost me US$ 100,000?”
      at
      http://droobli-unofficial.blogspot.com/

1991. Comment by Only Facts | November 12th, 2009

      Kees
      I read your blog re: Will this cost me US$100,000?. Apart from being the funniest thing I’ve read for a long time, it does raise the question is this guy Mr Nixon serious????

      Boy Droobli does know how offer customer service you have to give them that. For those who don’t know by the way Orange NSW is not what you would call a financial hub. Imagine people driving pick-ups and playing banjos and you would be close. And Mr Dixon, no I don’t accept your terms and conditions. There is a saying in Australia that matches Mr Nixon, it starts with Wan and ends with ker. I’m embarrassed he’s Australian, I can just imagine what Droobli must think. BA of the year.

1992. Comment by Ewan McColl | November 12th, 2009

      I think Droobli is not a good thing. We have been studying Droobli in one of my business courses. One of my professors even went so far as to say that these types of businesses create social ill-effects. People are drawn into something they don’t really want because of high pressure sales. The Droobli pitch is done well. It sounds so weird that it appeals to people with little going for them. In my college classes we couldn’t find one person who thought it was a good idea. Most people were put off by the fact that you have to sign up others even though they say you don’t have to. It’s something interesting to study. I didn’t realize business could be so weird.

1993. Comment by beavis | November 13th, 2009

      Bernie Madoff is interesting; Ponzi is interesting; Droobli is. . . well. . . the “Amateur Hour” of con. I mean really, Ewan, you’re in school so you have to have a bit of an education; Droobli is not worth even studying because they are so bad at it. Only Fact and kees are having a field day with the inconsistent claims Droobli has made; “the next eBay”; “the next Amazon”; yada, yada, yada. They haven’t done dick but make a bunch of wild ass claims and fleece a handful of victims. Madoff actually moved over 50 BILLION dollars. Ponzi is. . . well. . . Ponzi. If you are going to study a crook, study a master.

1994. Comment by kees | November 13th, 2009

      Only Facts, this is also interesting:
      his *drooblibusinessinfo.com* site has a link on the frontpage called “Research”, that leads to:
      http://www.duba2z.com/research.html

      That research-page contains info we have seen mentioned before here, and has to be dated somewhere in the month of April 2009 (the info presented has a referrence to an April 1 – 2009 update made on the Droobli-Network site, and also mentions something they *will* do in May 2009).

      What strikes me now on that research-page is this phrase:

      ———————————-
      “USA Customer Count: 0! Well, we have a little trickle, maybe tens of thousands, but in May 2009 we begin flooding the market with credits to attract customers.”
      ———————————-

      ==> So, in April 2009 (6 months after the Oct 2008 US launch) they had ZERO to “a little trickle, maybe tens of thousands” customers???

      That’s very different from the number of “100,000 partcipating customers” that Droobli aledgedly reached in Nov 2008, as claimed on yet another Droobli-affiliated site, like the FAQ page of “the GroobLiEagles – America’s International Team”:
      http://drooblieagles.com/qa2.html:

      ———————————-
      “Since its US launch on October 4th, 2008, GroobLi US has far exceeded the growth of its European counterpart. In fact, GroobLi US had 100,000 registered customers by November 15th, little over a month after launch.
      In comparison, it took Europe six months to achieve the same goal”
      ———————————-

      The last part of that phrase being totally different again from Droobli’s present claim of “2.3 million customers” in Europe “in just eight months”.

      When will they ever get their “facts” straight?

      There seems to be a whole lot of serious “confusion” (to put it mildly) going on at Droobli’s…

1995. Comment by Rough Framing Carpenter | November 13th, 2009

      You guys make me sick. So Droobli has some inconsistencies? So what? There has been so many launches and press releases that we’re bound to have some mistakes. But they don’t count. Mean nothing. I haven’t made anything from Droobli but a lot of Droobli people tell me they have made millions. You can’t stop this. Come to my website. I’ll give you a few credits. I want to play in the big league. Won’t you help me?

1996. Comment by Hi Gene | November 13th, 2009

      So you admit you have made nothing from Droobli? And who are these other drooblidiots who claim to have “made millions”? People lie Gene. Droobli is a fizzer. It’s a stupid idea and getting stupider. I love how they advertize luxury goods on the website. People don’t want those things. Most people are happy with what they have. They don’t need a rolex to make them happy.

      Only the greedy, attracted by shiny things are attracted to Droobli. Immature lazy people who want to become millionaires by sleeping. Droobli doesn’t make anything. It’s just another middleman.

1997. Comment by beavis | November 13th, 2009

      Rough Framing Carpenter said:

      “So Droobli has some inconsistencies? So what?”

      “Inconsistencies”? Gene, if it was all about making you feel batter about the mistake you made joining Droobli I’d be inclined tell you that you were right. But since you, like “thousands of Droobli BA’s worldwide”, are trying to recruit others into your mistake, I have to say “bullshit”. Droobli is lying it’s ass off as the concept continues to fail. Be a man, admit you made a mistake and help fix it by stopping others from joining.

1998. Comment by kees | November 14th, 2009

      Another low for Droobli:

      “Borrow the money from your parents or grandparents!”
      http://droobli-unofficial.blogspot.com/2009/11/borrow-money-from-your-parents.html

      

1999. Comment by beavis | November 14th, 2009

      They missed “panhandling”.

2000. Comment by Rough Framing Carpenter | November 14th, 2009

      What’s the big deal, beavis? So what if people lose a little money? 3 grand ain’t much. At least they have had the experience of trying. Anyway, it all benefits people higher up. So what? What goes around, comes around. If they don’t make money from Droobli, people should try the new things Bobby Jensen is launching next year. Droobli IV is going to be the big Kahuna. It’s in pre Pre-Launch now.

      I won’t say too much but it will make Droobli look like something small and unprofessional. It has a new auction that will attract younger customers.

      Come to my website. You might even get a few credits. I’ll give 3 credits to the next 25 people who go to my website.

      “I’m not waiting for a business opportunity. I’m swimming out to it.”

2001. Comment by Wes Steele - American Legion | November 14th, 2009

      Great – you’re going to give away $20 worth of credits and you make a big announcement about it? I never did like this guy. Too slimy.

2002. Comment by Rough Framing Carpenter | November 14th, 2009

      Its $60 worth. You been wearing the funny hat too long.

2003. Comment by beavis | November 14th, 2009

      “If they don’t make money from Droobli, people should try the new things Bobby Jensen is launching next year. Droobli IV is going to be the big Kahuna. It’s in pre Pre-Launch now.”

      OK, will the real Gene please come back to the blog.

2004. Comment by d | November 14th, 2009

      Has anyone actually made the money they were promised from Droobli? The only people who make money from it is ther people at the very very very top of the Company and it is a flakey business model at best. It’s to benefit the Company owners and people who are at the very top of the cop

      And, there is only a certain amount of people who who is able to be at the top and that is where the REAL money is made. If people havent made the money they were promised by signing up to Droobli then I vote scam.

2005. Comment by RFC | November 14th, 2009

      You’ve got a smart mouth Beavis.

2006. Comment by d | November 14th, 2009

      DUbli Network is registered with ASIC but that means nothing these days. Where is Droobli’s offi

2007. Comment by ''Red" Scraggs | November 14th, 2009

      You’ve all missed the point of Droobli. It has made Bobby Jensen a wealthy man. So wealthy, in fact, that he has bought a Dubai island and land in the Caymans. What’s the big deal if he made money off the drooblidiots. They’re adults, aren’t they? They did their due diligence didn’t they? Droobli’s not banned, you know. Anyone who gets involved and loses their money deserves it. That’s just life. There are no real “get rich quick schemes”. You can’t make money while you sleep. I know I’ve slept a lot.

      But life goes on. Embrace that.

2008. Comment by N. J. Wheatley | November 14th, 2009

      I’ve studied the reverse auctions and the other stuff that goes with Droobli. I’ve decided not to join. The reverse auctions are sucking a lot of money out of people’s pockets. People are paying three times as much as things really cost because it costs 80 cents to have a peek at a price. (Supermarkets and Wal-Mart should try this wonderful Droobli idea. Think how much money they could make?)

      It seems a crazy way to shop. Why should a group of people (i.e. Droobli reverse auction bidders) have to pay three times as much for a products? Doesn’t Bobby Jensen have enough money?

      I will never join the idiocy known as Droobli. It makes no sense.

2009. Comment by Gene | November 14th, 2009

      Booooooring, join today

2010. Comment by d | November 15th, 2009

      droobli iv? sounds like they failed already

2011. Comment by beavis | November 15th, 2009

      RFC said:

      “You’ve got a smart mouth Beavis”

      The donkey speaks!

2012. Comment by Eddie Edwards | November 17th, 2009

      Has anyone ever made any money from Droobli? I’m not talking about Bobby Jensen and his coterie of sycophants. I’m not talking about the poor drooblidiots who must lie to try to keep attracting people to the “scheme”. No spin, just an honest answer. The challenge goes out to all drooblidiots. What have you made from Droobli? No lies. No BS. Just the truth this time.

2013. Comment by Mel | November 17th, 2009

      Let’s face it, GroobLi is multi level marketing, plain and simple. The money that can be made is real. The process is replicatable, and those who do not replicate the process are not going to make it. Those who do not put in the time will not make it. It comes back to the 80/20 rule…..80% will fail to make significant money and 20% will achieve it. Nothing is guaranteed. There are no promises, only hard work using the replicatable process.

      Those willing to put in the hours, and make the necessary contacts, and not give up, will make $10-$20,0000/month. Those willing to do whatever it takes (ethically) will make a lot more. This is NOT EASY money, but there is a lot of money to be made.

      The subli site itself is fun and profitable. I have purchased debit cards for 75 cents on the dollar and am having fun with the “Unique” auction. Then there is the shopping portal which give you back cash for using it to go directly to online stores……stores like: WalMart, Staples, Bergners, Bloomingdales, Macys, HSN, Kohls…….there are hundreds of known stores are involved.

      This is no scam…..it is a unique concept that naysayers have a hard time wrapping their heads around. Droobli continues to grow, but has a long way to go. BTW, they just went public.

      YES, I am a distributor; YES, I am making money; YES, I am working hard; YES, I am loving it.

      mel@melkaye.com for the reality of it.

2014. Comment by Nikos | November 17th, 2009

      Two sayings:

      “Live and let die”

      and

      “if you play with shit, the chickens will eat you” – this is a traditional Greek saying – chickens eat everything. Anyway, don’t play with fire, I guess is the English equivilent.

      I submit totally to both. All this argument, for what? That the chicken will bite?

2015. Comment by beavis | November 17th, 2009

      Raise your hand if you have been bitten by a chicken. . .

2016. Comment by Only Facts | November 17th, 2009

      Morning Mel

      Just a couple of things, do you really believe you will be able to make $10-20,000.00 per month? Do you really believe this is the first MLM to suggest that? Do you think this is the first MLM that will claim their different?

      Also there is nothing ethical about Droobli. No ethical business would suggest you borrow money from your grandparents for a business, that in your own words has an 80% frailer rate. That’s just silly.

      Also you claim to have won Debit Cards, can you supply details on which cards you won and when so we can verify. As a rule of thumb on this site nothing is believed until it can be verified.

      Mel I have personally spoken to people that made money through Bernnie Madoff, you will never convince them he was a crook even though he is in gaol for ever. A hand full of people making money does not justify the many that will loose money.

      Please respond to this so you don’t become yet another Droobli is wonderful because I said so person.

2017. Comment by Mike Holt | November 17th, 2009

      Eaglescout displayed his ignorance of how Droobli operates several times.

      1. Droobli was started in Germany. The company is registered in Denmark. So what? Many companies do that for tax reasons.

      2. Droobli buys a product and puts it for sale on their portal offering 3 different buying processes. So they own the products they are selling. How is that a scam? Then they offer buyers the chance to reduce the cost of that product by clicking to find out what the current reverse auction price is. How is this a scam? How is this gambling? Buyers merely pay a small price to see the current price. If it has been reduced enough they then click on Buy Now to snap it up. They may have to spend a couple of dollars but they end up with huge savings. Twenty five cents of the eighty cents is used to reduce the bid price. Another twenty five cents goes to the Business Associates who help to advertise and market Droobli. The rest of the money goes to Droobli to pay for administration, etc. This is a very clever business plan. I cannot see how it can possibly be a scam.

      3. Any business where a lot of people are involved will attract many honest people and the occasional person with a criminal record. So what? That doesn’t mean that they are conducting a scam. Where is your proof?

      4. “There is absolutely no way to know what the results of the lotteries actually are. They could be rigged by the operator, and according to the shady disclaimer, they reserve the right to ban you off, even if you have remaining gambling credits.

      The plurality of prices were won by GroobLi distributors (so-called business associates) who at some point frequented this site.”
      You make this accusation, but where is your proof?
      The fact is, the Business Associates (BA’s) buy a package of credits that they can either use themselves to shop, or they give away to others to encourage them to shop. Is that what constitutes a scam in your opinion?
      4. “Statistics available from the GroobLi site indicate that as of last November (2008) there were only 57 GroobLi promoters, based on the distribution of prizes that were awarded at that point. Since then, multiple people, including our readers, have observed that the only auction worth investing in is the express auction, and coincidentally, GroobLi is mathematically bound to take a loss if the price is not reduced by 25%, or set to 133% of market value.”
      These statement are entirely erroneous. Read my #2 comment above. Your figures are wrong, and show your ignorance about how Droobli works.

      I won’t bother to go on. I suggest you do some serious research instead of trying to smear a business based on ignorance and a bad attitude.

2018. Comment by Only Facts | November 17th, 2009

      Mr Holt

      I began writing a response to your post. Everything you question has been proven on this and other sites over and over again.

      I reached point 3 and thought what is the point. You really want to do business with these people then go ahead.

      I have to put you in the no point basket. Even when you are presented with all the proof one can muster, you still fall back onto the Droobli no proof, just because I said so mentality.

      Good luck to you. I am sure you will be looking down on us from your Droobli success pinnacle shortly.

      PS.
      I think some of the other people on this site will want to have some fun with you first though. Beavs over to you.

2019. Comment by Eddie Edwards | November 17th, 2009

      Again I ask “Has anyone made any money from Droobli? If so, how much?” Simple questions but no one is brave enough to answer. Mel says you “can” make $20,000 a month. But what does that mean? You might as well say you “can” make $ 1, 000,000 a month.

      Mel says it takes a lot of hard work to be a success in Droobli. However he is saying the Droobli company are liars because they say you can “make money while you sleep”. If Droobli is going to lie about that what else are they going to lie about?

      Thanks, Mel for an insider’s view. We need ‘whistleblowers’ like you who can keep us informed about Droobli’s shady practices. Can you give us some more dirt?

2020. Comment by beavis | November 17th, 2009

      Only Facts said:

      “I think some of the other people on this site will want to have some fun with you first though. Beavs over to you.”

      I too shall pass on “Mike Holt”. It’s like arguing with a sheep that just had a lobotomy.

2021. Comment by Gene | November 17th, 2009

      You know when people are bidding and buying on your site all over the world, chances

      are you make money while you sleep and yes I have made money and I plan on

      making much more. I mean guys after all it is a world trading portal. Oh and I believe

      55 cents goes into a bonus pool for the associates from each 80 cent credit,

      unless I missed something. Still a cesspool here I see.

2022. Comment by Gene | November 17th, 2009

      Dopey facts why do you try to put words in the minds of the innocent with

      your contrived contributions of ideas?

2023. Comment by beavis | November 17th, 2009

      Because Droobli sucks.

2024. Comment by Jason Switzer | November 18th, 2009

      More proof that Droobli is the incredible company I know it is today and will continue to be in the future…

      http://www.obtainer-online.com/droobli_pulls_off_non_plus_ultra_3_229_EN.html

2025. Comment by Gene | November 18th, 2009

      Don’t talk about your characteristics. A little ego there beav.

2026. Comment by beavis | November 18th, 2009

      Gene the Village Drooblidiot; he doesn’t make a bit of sense, but he is entertaining.

      And then there is Jason Switzer; he puts on a business suit and thinks he’s not a sheep.There is a term for that; delusional.

      Speaking of sheep, where is Bob the Sheep? If he would come back we’d have a flock!

2027. Comment by Nikos | November 18th, 2009

      Beavis, you only need to observe a chicken to see the truth. They really do eat anything.

2028. Comment by Bob | November 18th, 2009

      Where is Bob?
      He is busy making money. He does several things to make money and they all are based on fulfilling a need.

      He is spending time with his family and friends, and setting up partner programs to help Non Profits take advantage of the holiday season here in the US.

      He is enjoying helping companies and find ways to generate additional revenue streams.

      He has not come across an organization yet that thought a Branded GroobLi site was a bad idea. It is usually very welcome indeed.

      He is teaching others to do the same all over the world, and yes, after a hard days work, getting paid in his sleep.

      He is not wasting time on preposterous things.

      People in any business need to be honest and ethical including GroobLi.

      What is it that you do Beavis, besides categorize people and put them down? Give us your story.

2029. Comment by Jason Switzer | November 18th, 2009

      Beavis- you and the rest of the morons on here on here are the sad ones. what is your story Beavis? What have you done that is so great? You talk about being a sheep as you sit there in what I assume is a 3×4 cube knocking people for taking risks and wanting more than they currently have. Sorry… but we are the opposite of sheep. It is easy to yell from the top of your lungs when you are just marching along with the other 80% in one big herd. Stepping in each others crap and constantly having your head up the rear end of the person in front of you. Living safe and meaningless lives doing nothing and contributing nothing to society. If you disappeared tomorrow… what impact have you made? Who will remember you? (and don’t use the “family” cop-out) You and the others on here that treat entrepreneurs like leapers are beyond pathetic. Look at your last 4-5 post Beavis; 1-2 sentence idiotic ramblings with no substance or value. Get a life because if the amount of time you spend on here is any indicator, you certainly do not have one.

2030. Comment by Charlie | November 18th, 2009

      I wasn’t joking, the guy called Beavis is a registered sex offender, he would never reveal his true identitiy, he does dedicate a lot of time to this blog only because he can remain anonymous. Any advice you take from this man you are taking from a rapist.

2031. Comment by Only Facts | November 18th, 2009

      Jason Switzer

      Comment 2024, what about this comment/article makes Droobli an incredible company. A reverse merger is not always a good thing. There are reasons companies choose this path. For the most is it because a reverse merger is a way for the privately held company to avoid scrutiny by the SEC. Remember Jason, medianet was on the verge of collapse when CG Holdings took over, and since hasn’t done much at all. I have read a lot about Medianet being the “largest online shopping porthole” however I have never read where. On the net? Thats incorrect. In Europe, that’s incorrect. In the US, that’s incorrect so where?

      Looking at the other articles in this fine publication, Droobli is in good company indeed. I think you find, by the way the article is and advertorial.

      Gene.

      I assume you are referring to me in comment 2022. Exactly what comment of mine is contrived? Do you understand the definition of contrived? Please show me the comment.

2032. Comment by Gene | November 18th, 2009

      Beav your’re showing your colors and dopey it’s about everything you say.

2033. Comment by Gene | November 18th, 2009

      Beav let’s say that extra r there is for rich, meaning you’re full of it!

2034. Comment by George Blinkthorpe | November 18th, 2009

      So Jason, according to you a drooblidiot is an entrepreneur? Pay your $300 or $3000 depending on your level and you’re an instant entrepreneur? Is that how it works? You droobli people are just a pack of morons.

      And Bob thinks he’s Mother Theresa bringing hope and light to non-profits. You’re no hero Bob even though you think you are. You think you’ve got a good way to get some money out of non-profits. Why don’t you just give them money if you want to help. You’ve got enough. Remember you’re the first US droobli millionaire. Isn’t that what you tried to tell us.

      Here we go again. Drooblidiots thinking they’re doing everyone a favor. Yet all they want is more money. They would sell their mothers for organ culling if they thought they could get away with it. Droobli people make me sick. Keep away from me you hypocrites!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2035. Comment by Only Facts | November 18th, 2009

      Gene

      Thanks, yet again you can’t prove a single point. I have said it before. Just keep posting you do more damage to Droobli than we ever could.

2036. Comment by beavis | November 18th, 2009

      Well first off, Jason Switzer (aka The Donkey), I have a real job. I do not sit in a cubicle; I get an office. I was an entrepreneur up until a month ago (IT consultant) when one of my clients offered me a district managers position handling both sales and field support. The job pays six figures (that’s American dollars; not Droobli credits). I do not make money while I sleep; oh, wait, I forgot about the commission overrides. Sorry, I do make money while I sleep. You might try my technique for success; it’s called an education and work. I know, it’s a strange concept for someone on a mission to sleep his way to success. But I think you’ll find it actually makes money instead of costing you. Your friends and family might actually start talking to you again.

2037. Comment by Moon Unit | November 19th, 2009

      Drooblidiots are worse than Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses. People don’t want to bothered by you lousy drooblidiots trying to badger them into droobli. Leave them alone. You drooblidiots will use family and friends to join droobli. Why? Why do you tell them about Droobli? Well, you tell them it’s because you’re so concerned about their financial welfare. But you lying droobli scum – it’s only because they might make you a few dollars. I hate drooblidiots. They are evil people. Stop preying on your family and friends. Come visit me. Face to face and I’ll “sort you out”. You drooblidiots are a waste of space. You have no right to live. You should be culled. You’re evil, horrible people. You should all be in jail for the damage you cause.

2038. Comment by kees | November 19th, 2009

      Hurray Hurray, Droobli merged and is now OWNED by Medianet Group Technologies Inc., which also owns the BSP Rewards shopping-malls network.

      We can see how incredibly cheerful we should be and how financially “succesful” Droobli’s new owner is by looking at the last few quarterly SEC filings:

      14 Nov 2008 – SEC filing FORM 10-Q:

      Company: MEDIANET GROUP TECHNOLOGIES INC. (MEDG) Form Type: 10-Q Filing Date: 11/14/2008
      http://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/DisplayFiling.aspx?dcn=0001161697-08-001223
      ————————–
      ITEM 1A. RISK FACTORS

      THE COMPANY HAS A HISTORY OF LOSSES AND MAY INCUR LOSSES FOR THE FORESEEABLE. FUTURE
      The Company had an accumulated deficit of $5,716,477 as of September 30, 2008. We will continue to incur operating losses as we maintain our search for profits in our businesses and satisfy our ongoing disclosure requirements with the Commission. Such continuing losses could result in a decrease in share value.
      ————————————————-

      11 May 2009 – SEC filing FORM 10-Q:

      Company: MEDIANET GROUP TECHNOLOGIES INC. (MEDG) Form Type: 10-Q Filing Date: 5/11/2009
      http://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/DisplayFiling.aspx?dcn=0001161697-09-000444
      ————————–
      ITEM 1A. RISK FACTORS

      THE COMPANY HAS A HISTORY OF LOSSES AND MAY INCUR LOSSES FOR THE FORESEEABLE. FUTURE
      The Company had an accumulated deficit of $6,118,443 as of March 31, 2009. We will continue to incur operating losses as we maintain our search for profits in our businesses and satisfy our ongoing disclosure requirements with the Commission. Such continuing losses could result in a decrease in share value.
      ————————————————-

      14 Aug 2009 – SEC filing FORM 10-Q:

      Company: MEDIANET GROUP TECHNOLOGIES INC. (MEDG) Form Type: 10-Q Filing Date: 8/14/2009
      http://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/DisplayFiling.aspx?dcn=0001161697-09-000781
      ————————–
      ITEM 1A. RISK FACTORS

      THE COMPANY HAS A HISTORY OF LOSSES AND MAY INCUR LOSSES FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
      The Company had an accumulated deficit of $6,436,543 for the period ended June 30, 2009. We will continue to incur operating losses as we maintain our search for profits in our businesses and satisfy our ongoing disclosure requirements with the Commission. Such continuing losses could result in a decrease in share value.
      ————————————————-

      Congratulations everybody!

2039. Comment by Bob | November 19th, 2009

      George,
      Actually,
      Partner Programs get 30% of the revenue. They do quite well and that is why it is such a successful program. They appreciate the money they make.

      I have not made a million in GroobLi. It would be a waste of time defending the assertion.

      I do not defend unethical people whether they be in GroobLi, Wal-Mart, the local Car dealer, etc. Those people will always be with us. But your classification of GroobLi people in general is mostly in error.

      Beavis, education is good. Now we have a snapshot, thanks for sharing.

      I am very glad I never got paid in any venture to sleep my way to success, glad I have thousands of friends, and glad I make money. Not sure who you are talking about there.

2040. Comment by beavis | November 19th, 2009

      Bob the Sheep said:

      “I do not defend unethical people whether they be in GroobLi, Wal-Mart, the local Car dealer, etc. ”

      Yes you do. Droobli’s auctions are rigged (see previous posts). You sell both the company and the product in a thinly disguised pyramid scheme. That is the reality.

2041. Comment by Bob | November 19th, 2009

      Beavis,
      If GroobLi’s auctions were rigged I would have nothing to do with the company. Why would they risk everything? What would they gain?

      Prove it, and I will change my position very quickly.
      A few people dumping credits does not mean they rig the auctions.

2042. Comment by Only Facts | November 19th, 2009

      Bob

      You said ” I don’t defend unethical people….” To discuss this subject we first must look at what is unethical. The common definition is….not conforming to approved standards of social or professional behaviour; “unethical business practices”

      Lets look at Droobli’s social and professional behaviour.

      1. Droobli claims they did not go Bankrupt in Demark. The Denmark records clearly state the word BANKRUPT. So this is a lie.

      2. Droobli claims they commenced operations in 2003 or 2006 or 2008. One of these must be a lie.

      3. Droobli claims that their main business is the shopping mall, and the auctions are only a “hook” to get people to the mall, and not in any shape or form the art of recruitment. In the EU they have not have a shopping mall for several weeks, so for Europe this must be a lie. In Australia they have been recruiting for 9 months with no shopping available, BA’s are receiving a monthly income purely from recruitment, so for Australia this must be a lie.

      4. Kees has shown us through math, using information supplied by Droobli itself, that the result or the auctions are more then just dubious. They are out right impossible. However lets just call them dubious.

      5. Rik McCoy was heavily involved with, possibly Vice President, of SkyBiz a proven scam. When that collapsed he moved to Travelogia, a proven scam. When that collapsed he moved to Droobli all these people he recruited lost money. All companies work on the similar business model. At best it seems silly for Droobli to publicly associate themselves with this individual, however they continue to do so why??? Again very dubious.

      6. Droobli publically suggests that you borrow money from your Grandparents for a business that has an 80% failure rate. Defiantly not professional behaviour.

      7. Dr Charles King, their attempted link to legitimacy, promotes many MLMs some with incredibly bad histories with litigation and out right lying.

      8. Droobli now claims they are effectively on the New York Stock exchange. Another lie.

      9. Droobli continually allows their BA’s to make outrageous claims and promises without any retribution.

      10. Even though Droobli claims to be legal they have no documentation stating it is not gambling and have sought none. They do however acknowledge that they are working illegally not having auction licences.

      Now, it is up to you to decide if this information is in conflict or equal to your individual ethics.

2043. Comment by Etty | November 19th, 2009

      I have never seen more bullshit in my life. I bought a Dehlonghi toaster on the express auction for 34.00 bucks. The same toaster was on amazon for $77.00 bucks. I spent 80 cents and saved $43.00. Oh I had to pay $6bucks for shipping. Good deal as far as i’m concerned. End of story idiots.

2044. Comment by Bob | November 19th, 2009

      Only Facts,
      I think you well know GroobLi’s ‘face value’ is what I see, and is what is important to me.

      I never heard GroobLi refute bankruptcy, only a BA’s opinion. We simply do not know what the details are.

      I do know they have tried many platforms, and when they did not work as expected, made adjustments. You can hear Bobby Jensen in his own words explain what alarmed him when E-Bay was sued for 63 million for not controlling Louis Vuitton knockoffs ( http://valleywag.gawker.com/5020877/louis-vuitton-awarded-63-million-in-suit-against-ebay ). Which is why he quickly shut down the e-bay like platform they used to have. He knew he needed to have complete control of the items. So your point 1 & 2 do not convince me of any red flags.

      We will see what happens in Europe and I have my eye on that somewhat, but have my focus on my local market here in the US
      There is always risk involved, and I hope they do what they said they will do.

      I am a very busy individual. In the meantime, GroobLi provides value to the customer here in the US, which is undeniable. That is what I see. All this other stuff will play out, and the customer will be the deciding factor.

      I see that there is a forward trend of continual improvement.

      I also am a believer in Network Marketing, which gives me insight into why things can be perceived as scams by some.
      So there are a lot of grains of salt in there which only time will tell.

2045. Comment by Only Facts | November 19th, 2009

      Bob

      Droobli did refute the bankruptcy in their response to this site with the “Droobli the truth’. Not a BA.

      “Many Platforms”. You are quite right when you say “Many platforms”. However, if you look through what was said about these platforms at time, every one was going to be bigger than Ebay. Every one was innovative, exciting and fun. In fact the rhetoric is identical. They were wrong then and I’m sorry their wrong now.

      Etty.

      When was this auction I am having trouble finding it???????????????????

2046. Comment by Only Facts | November 19th, 2009

      Etty
      I would also like to know what model of toaster and where you are, as in Australia I can’t find a Dehloughi toaster over $49.95 with free delivery. Guess you should have shopped around.

2047. Comment by Gene | November 19th, 2009

      Yeah it is a S.C.A.M. a (superb company at momentum)

      Dopey just keep on being you! You like to twist the facts. Who care what you say now!

2048. Comment by Finnley Williams | November 19th, 2009

      Here’s what Etty said : “I bought a Dehlonghi toaster on the express auction for 34.00 bucks. The same toaster was on amazon for $77.00 bucks. I spent 80 cents and saved $43.00. Oh I had to pay $6bucks for shipping. Good deal as far as i’m concerned. End of story idiots.”

      So Etty gets a cheap toaster and his whole vision of the universe is solved. You spent 80 cents to get $43.00 off a toaster. That means 172 people had to click on that to reduce it by 25 cents each time. But those 172 suckers had to spend a total of $137.60 so Etty could get a discount.

      Etty the difference between you and I is this: I wouldn’t want to get a cheap toaster if others had to lose money just so I could get a discount.

      Now Etty you don’t care about ethics and you’ll probably be going to hell when you die but consider this. If you keep buying with droobli you’ll be one of the 172 people more often than not. What I’m saying moron is that you’ll lose money so others can get cheap goods. How do you feel now you money hungry idiot? Your days will come. You’ll spend that 80 cents just so others will get discounts. Gives you a warm glow doesn’t it, Etty?

2049. Comment by beavis | November 20th, 2009

      Etty paid $43 for a flipping toaster? What an idiot.

2050. Comment by beavis | November 20th, 2009

      I meant $34. Should have got this:

      http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=6528823

2051. Comment by D. Vader | November 20th, 2009

      Beavis, you are the king. For $34 I would have though a Bentley Coupe would be feasible…oh that’s right, Bentley have not woken up to the potential value available to them via the Droobli revolution. Well I’ll be dipped in shit.

2052. Comment by Kyle Warren | November 20th, 2009

      All of you forget one thing about the express auctions. It’s fun. It’s fun to pay 80 cents to check a price. Wal-mart should do it. It would make shopping there more fun. Also, it feels good to spend so much money on things. When people spend 80 cents to lower the price by 25 cents they are actually paying 3 times as much for stuff. That’s fun.

      And yes the extra money droobli collects for items does go into fund. The BAs assume 100% of that money goes to them while they’re sleeping but not true. Bobby Jensen takes his hefty cut and then there are “operating costs”. Check it out. A very small percentage goes to BAs. Poor pathetic creatures. They’ve been ripped off again.

      But hey, it’s fun.. All fun. Are we done having fun yet?

2053. Comment by Bob is a Jerk | November 20th, 2009

      Bob said “If GroobLi’s auctions were rigged I would have nothing to do with the company. Why would they risk everything? What would they gain?

      Prove it, and I will change my position very quickly.
      A few people dumping credits does not mean they rig the auctions.”

      But you liar it’s been proven. What about the $200 credit cards that sold for 25cents? Isn’t that enough proof? So the guy who spent 80 cents to have a peek when it was 50 cents thought it was too much at 50 cents? Do you really believe that Bob? No, do you really believe that auction happened? Man you’re an idiot Bob. Now please change your position like you said you would. C’mon Bob you know Droobli lied about that auction result and many others like it. They aren’t real. Either that or all the bidders come from mental institutions. Which one is it Bob.

      Please tell us about how you’ve changed position now that the rigged auctions have been revealed to you, again.

2054. Comment by Gormless Youth | November 20th, 2009

      You gotta love the personality-free zone known as Bob. He said:

      “I am I have thousands of friends, and glad I make money.” (Post 2039)

      Bob wants to believe he has thousands of friends. Drooblidiots have no friends. When people see them coming they run. The word “droobli” is the fastest way to clear a run. Works better than saying “fire”.

      Bob you’ve shown yourself to be the typical droobli jerk with your bragging about thousands of friends.

      We must talk to your wife. See what she says. Or is she gone too?

2055. Comment by Bob | November 20th, 2009

      For those who need a fifth grade or higher explanation of a few BA’s dumping credits:

      Nobody is competing with them in the bidding process.
      They clicked it down as fast as they could at 3 in the morning, crossing their fingers that nobody checked it when they were going through he 5 minute process.

      For example:
      Whoever ‘reversebuying’ was got 3 cards in one day at a 100% discount.

      http://us.droobli.com/25-Blockbuster-Gift-Card__5e_6048

      My position still stands.

2056. Comment by beavis | November 20th, 2009

      Bob is a Jerk said:

      “What about the $200 credit cards that sold for 25cents?”

      They never answer that one. To you Drooblidiots, if you can’t answer this question you cannot sell Droobli with a clear conscience. And if you do answer it you still can’t sell Droobli with a clear conscience because the only answer is the auctions aren’t real. It’s fake, fools! Just like the US auctions that end at a discount that is not divisible by $.25. Retarded sheep. . .

2057. Comment by Gormless Youth | November 20th, 2009

      Bob, do you realize what a moron you really are? We have proven that those auctions can’t be real. So you said you’d pull out of droobli if it could be shown that there are irregularities. So Bob over to you. Be a man and get out of droobli.

2058. Comment by Michael De Bever | November 20th, 2009

      Bob had a wonderful explanation of those crazy auctions:

      “For those who need a fifth grade or higher explanation of a few BA’s dumping credits:

      Nobody is competing with them in the bidding process.
      They clicked it down as fast as they could at 3 in the morning, crossing their fingers that nobody checked it when they were going through he 5 minute process.”

      This means some drooblidiot kept clicking knowing he was spending 80 cents to bring the price down 25 cents. I suppose later this droobli moron bragged about how “cheaply” he got the item for.

      He had to spend three times the original price through shredding credits but at least the final price made it look like a bargain.

      Can everyone see how the moron element is attracted to droobli. They have to be the biggest pack of losers anyone could meet. I give up Bob, Jason Switzer, Gene, etc. You idiots deserve droobli.

      Enjoy your mindless clicking. You hopeless idiots. But do not dare try to get others involved. Don’t spread your financial stupidity to others. You guys should be thrown in jail.

2059. Comment by Bob | November 20th, 2009

      Duh…
      OK maybe I need to lower to a 1st grade explanation.
      Do you want an item on the auctions?

      If you are a customer who received a few free credits…buy it for the lowest price.

      If you are a BA who spent the money and does not know what to do. Embarrass yourself. And cash out you credits.

      Beavis:

      Keep your day job (if you can)

2060. Comment by Bob | November 20th, 2009

      Beavis,
      We know you just got a promotion…why jeopardize your credibility? I know who you work for. What a waste!

2061. Comment by beavis | November 20th, 2009

      There is nothing more pathetic then to watch a flailing sheep.

2062. Comment by kees | November 21st, 2009

      For the record:

      Interesting inside information on the number of Droobli-EU users in May 2009 – presented in the blog of Martin Berns, the former CEO of Medianet Group Technology Inc.

      At the time of writing the following blog entry he still *was* the CEO:

      http://martinberns.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.html
      ———————————————-
      Tuesday, May 26, 2009
      A Highly Successful Launch
      5/26/09… The GROOBLI Mall Is Off and Running

      The GroobLi Mall was introduced two weeks ago and has proven to be one the fastest growing launches we have ever had the pleasure of bringing to market.
      …
      GroobLi has been operating in Europe with over 1.5 million users and they are now expanding into the US and Canada.
      ———————————————-

      So what happened with Droobli’s proud European claim of “2.3 million customers in just eight months”?

      Was Droobli Europe such a “success” that it lost 800,000 of them again?

2063. Comment by happy | November 21st, 2009

      you can say what you want. In fact, I’ve bought through GroobLi products, wich value is US$16,500 and I spent only US$2,250. I’m very happy and satisfied as customer with GroobLi. I enjoy a lot when I’m bidding for a product with excellent results.

2064. Comment by kees | November 21st, 2009

      For the record:

      From SEC filing “Form 8-K” dated 23 Oct 2009:
      http://sec.edgar-online.com/medianet-group-technologies-inc/8-k-current-report-filing/2009/10/23/section2.aspx

      # CG Holdings =
      ———————————————–
      {begin quote}

      CG owns, directly or indirectly, the following subsidiaries:

      • Lenox Resources, LLC, a Delaware limited liability company. This company holds GroobLi’s intellectual property, primarily its trademark, domains and technologies.

      • GROOBLI NETWORK, Ltd., a British Virgin Islands limited company, operates GroobLi’s network with its business associates.

      • GROOBLICOM, Ltd., a Cyprus limited company. GROOBLICOM, Ltd., runs GroobLi’s auction websites.

      • Lenox Logistik und Service GmbH is a German corporation which is responsible for the fulfillment of products purchased on the GroobLi auction site. Lenox Logistik also operates GroobLi’s European headquarters in Berlin and employs 22 persons, who are collectively responsible for GroobLi’s accounting, marketing and purchasing activities.

      • GroobLi Logistics, LLC, a Delaware limited liability company. This company is responsible for fulfillment of orders placed from North and middle America (United States, Mexico, Puerto Rico, Canada).

      {end quote}
      ———————————————–

      # CG Holdings has (apparently) no real-estate property, no real physical “office” presence outside of Berlin Europe, and has only 22 + 3 = 25 employees:
      ———————————————–
      {begin quote}

      Property
      CG’s subsidiary, Lenox Logistik, rents 6,400 square feet at its headquarters in Berlin, Germany, at a cost of $11,200 per month, plus VAT, pursuant to a five-year lease ending October 31, 2014. The principal officers and some additional employees of CG intend to relocate to South Florida in 2010, and are now in the process of viewing available office space.

      Employees
      CG has twenty-two (22) employees, excluding its general counsel, president, chief operating officer and the Director of Marketing. CG also employs consultants on an as-needed basis.

      Employment Agreements
      CG has employment agreements with Messrs. Jensen, Holmstoel, Kusche, and Mrs. Betina Sørensen.

      {end quote}
      ———————————————–

      # Virtually all of Droobli’s global activities are run by the 22 employees in Berlin:
      ———————————————–
      {begin quote}

      • Lenox Logistik und Service GmbH is a German corporation which is responsible for the fulfillment of products purchased on the GroobLi auction site. Lenox Logistik also operates GroobLi’s European headquarters in Berlin and EMPLOYS 22 PERSONS, WHO ARE COLLECTIVELY RESPONSIBLE FOR GROOBLI’S ACCOUNTING, MARKETING AND PURCHASING ACTIVITIES.

      {end quote}
      ———————————————–

      What happened to the “80 highly qualified employees” from only a year or so ago?

      http://mypower10team.com/TsunamiWaveisCOMING.html
      ———————————————–
      “GroobLi.com was founded in 2006 when the web site was launched. The worldwide development department is located in Berlin, Germany. The department has around 80 highly qualified employees with large expertise within this business sector.”
      ———————————————–

      Laid off, while Droobli is becoming an e-commerce “tsunami wave”?

2065. Comment by kees | November 21st, 2009

      sorry, that should be:

      22 + 4 = 26 employees

2066. Comment by kees | November 21st, 2009

      For the record:

      The Droobli-EU Shopping Mall is still AWOL, and has been for at least 5 weeks already.

      Also, Droobli’s official “GroobLi Investment Care” site http://www.droobli-invest.com/ has been AWOL for quite some time as well.

      What’s Droobli’s excuse for this?

2067. Comment by beavis | November 21st, 2009

      Regarding kees latest findings of fact, let me respond for Jason Switzer (aka “The Donkey”), Bob the Sheep, Gene the Village Drooblidiot and company:

      Drooblispeak good; facts bad; baaaaah, baaaaaaaaaaah

2068. Comment by Bob | November 21st, 2009

      Baaaaah, Baaaaaaaaaaaaah,
      Thought I would try to speak a language more identifiable to Beavis.

      The elementary stuff did not work.

2069. Comment by Bob | November 21st, 2009

      So basically…whats the point?
      They have employees (a good thing)
      They are training 40 more for the move to Miami…big deal!

2070. Comment by beavis | November 21st, 2009

      kees has done a lot of very thorough research; so thorough that the shear volume of facts obviously overwhelms the average sheep. . . er. . . Drooblidiot . So I will distill it for them:

      Your auctions are fraudulent.
      Your company’s size and production is a lie.
      Their up and coming “launches” will greatly resemble the previous launches and drive the company pretty much nowhere.
      Your company depends, lives off of and focuses on recruiting business associates; not selling merchandise.
      Droobli is a pyramid scheme.

      There, very simple and concise. Please don’t ask for proof; kees and Only Facts already provided it and if you are asking at this stage you can’t comprehend the answer, anyway (just like you were in school again). Now, please give up this idiocy and go do something useful.

2071. Comment by Kent Rogerson | November 21st, 2009

      Bob, you lied. You said you would quit Droobli if and when some of the auctions were exposed as dubious or downright lies.

      Bob that’s been proven. No one would continue to click on an item when it reached near zero. Yet, supposedly that’s what some Drooblidiots have done. They apparently clicked on a $200 credit card when it was 50 cents but passed it in. Now considering it took 80 cents to check that 50 cent price, why didn’t they buy?????????

      Bob, you are a lying creep. Everyone knows those auctions like that didn’t happen. No one would spend 80 cents to check a price and finding it was only 50 cents decided not to buy because it was too expensive!!!!!!!!!!!

      Now, Bob, you lying scumbag, try to put your spin on it to say that’s a legitimate auction !!!!!! You can’t !!!! Therefore quit Droobli like you said you would !!!!!!!!!!

      Be a man Bob.

      Everyone reading this knows that wasn’t a legitimate auction!!!!!! So do you Bob. So quit Droobli like you said !!!!!

      Yes, I’ve done it!!!!!!!!!!!! One less Drooblidiot !!!!!

2072. Comment by Gene | November 21st, 2009

      I can reveal I was the one who bid all those crazy bids. I am rich from Droobli. So I have 112, 000 Droobli credits to unload. So what? I’ve made $32 million from Droobli in 4 months. I’m rich I tell you. And I think I’ll buy this blog and shut it down.

      I just throw away credits at 3 in the morning. Because I can’t sleep. I’m earning too much money with Droobli. It’s gold I tell you. The Droobli tsunami is coming. Run for cover or ride that sucker. We’ll all be rich. Maybe President Obama would like to become a Business associate. After all he only earns $350,000. He could do 100 times that with Droobli. Ride this cash tsunami and get off at billionaire street!

2073. Comment by Gene | November 21st, 2009

      Beavis = Eaglescout !!! (you thought I’d never get wise to it) ha ha ha ha

2074. Comment by beavis | November 22nd, 2009

      The fake Gene returns.

2075. Comment by Bob | November 22nd, 2009

      Okay. You’ve proved it to me. Those auction results can’t be true. And I’m not a liar. I’m getting out of Droobli as soon as I can. You won’t hear another positive thing about Droobli from me. I’m all out of spin.

2076. Comment by Gene | November 22nd, 2009

      Stop lying about me boys.Let’s put it this way. I hope to make a good living with the company.

2077. Comment by Bob | November 22nd, 2009

      Pretending to be me Beavis?

      The real Bob would help Kent.

      He seems to think there are many different people bidding down the items and passing up the chance to get it of ‘almost zero’.

      That is where he misses the point. It is the same person.

2078. Comment by Bob | November 22nd, 2009

      BTW,
      Kent, Beavis, etc…
      Why spend so much time on this imaginary subject anyway?
      Of course the auctions are real, and are not rigged.

      Buy some of your holiday gifts there like others are doing and you will see. lol

2079. Comment by Micah Durst | November 22nd, 2009

      Bob I believe it was proven. It doesn’t matter if it was the same person or not. Why would a person just keep spending 80 cents a time to reduce the price by 25 cents? You’re an absolute idiot.

      You’re secretly working against Droobli. You’re making them all sound like idiots. On one hand you say it’s the same person just clicking and wasting 80 cents time. Then you say they they do it because they have a lot of “free” credits. (the ones they get when they join)

      But in earlier posts you say that the money made from clicks goes into a pool for BAs. If it’s all “free” credits they’re are using where is the money being generated?

      It’s all so idiotic. I’m so glad that I’ll have nothing to do with the idiocy that is Droobli.

      Bob, plain and simple you’re a lying idiot.

      The auctions were proved suspicious now you take back what you said. And you’re saying someone else said you’re through with Droobli. Well, why don’t you declare what you really think about Droobli!! Help others avoid. Do one decent thing in your life!

2080. Comment by beavis | November 22nd, 2009

      You mean join the other two or three people who are bidding?

2081. Comment by beavis | November 22nd, 2009

      Micah,

      Bob is a sheep. Don’t argue with sheep; they are truly one of God’s stupider creatures.

      As far as Gene, well. . . you’d be better off arguing with Bob.

2082. Comment by kees | November 23rd, 2009

      For the record:

      # OLD Droobli Spin:
      “GroobLi.com’s select test market in Europe saw 2.3 million customers come in just eight months”

      (google this phrase, it seems to have first appeared in April 2009 on the “DroobliNetwork.com” site)

      # NEW Droobli spin:
      “GroobLi’s select test market in Europe saw $2.3 million come in just eight months”

      (google this phrase, it’s present on the Droobli-owned “droobli.org” site and seems to have started exclusively related to and during the recent Aussie pre-launch phase )

2083. Comment by kees | November 23rd, 2009

      For the record:

      google the phrase:
      “USA Customer Count: 0!
      Well, we have a little trickle, maybe tens of thousands, but in May 2009 we begin flooding the market with credits to attract customers.”

      It appears on various Droobli B.A sites and seems to date from April 2009.

2084. Comment by kees | November 23rd, 2009

      For the record:

      the phrase:
      ——————————
      “For perspective, eBay started in 1995, grew to 2.1 million customers by 1998 (3+ years), then exploded to 42 million customers by 2001. That’s 2.1 million to 42 million in 3 years! We expect GroobLi to grow just as fast.”
      ——————————
      is present on various Droobli B.A. sites.

      The OFFICIAL Droobli figures prove how wrong the expectation of “We expect Droobli to grow just as fast” is:
      ——————————
      # Fact:
      Droobli started as an online “Global Internet Trading Portal” on May 28, 2004:
      http://web.archive.org/web/20040620182855/www.tradingvalues.net/novo_en/default.asp?nc=4885&id=47
      “GroobLi is a new global Internet trading portal which opened on May 28th 2004.”
      ——————————

      # Fact:
      in May 2009, Droobli Europe had a “over” 1.5 million customers:
      http://martinberns.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.html
      “GroobLi has been operating in Europe with over 1.5 million users and they are now expanding into the US and Canada.”
      ——————————

      # Fact:
      in October 2009, Droobli had “nearly” 1.5 million (US?) customers:
      http://www.faqs.org/sec-filings/091023/MEDIANET-GROUP-TECHNOLOGIES-INC_8-K/
      “Since the U.S. debut of GroobLi in 2008, thousands of Business Associates from around the world have joined the GroobLi Network, and nearly 1.5 million consumers have participated in GroobLi auctions.”
      ——————————

      # Conclusion:
      In 2009 Droobli’s Global Internet Trading Portal has been around for more than 5.5 years and Droobli seems to have either just “over” 1.5 million customers, or about 3 million customers if we take the SEC Form-8K quote to mean that those “nearly 1.5 million customers” were for Droobli US only.

      That’s very different from eBay’s 2.1 million to 42 million in 3 years.

2085. Comment by kees | November 23rd, 2009

      For the record:

      In case anyone is interested in Droobli’s “unique visitors” number for the past year: Oct 2008 – Oct 2009…

      Register for free at siteanalytics.compete.com, and find that Droobli.com’s highest “unique visitor” number was 74,381 in the month of December 2008 (just after the US launch).
      Since then it has been slowly getting less and less till just under 47,000 in October 2009 (but with a short-lived spike up to 74,482 during the launch of the Droobli-us webmall

      see this jpg screenshot: http://i48.tinypic.com/2cxiyw9.jpg

      And as you can see the Unique visitors number for the drooblinetwork site has been fairly constant and hovering around 10,000.

      No sight anywhere of “millions” of customers/users, nor of “tens of thousands” B.A.’s (as I’ve read some BA’s claims for Germany alone already)

2086. Comment by kees | November 23rd, 2009

      correction:
      the short-lived spike up during the launch of the Droobli-us webmall should be: 72,482

2087. Comment by kees | November 23rd, 2009

      For the record:

      Here’s a split-up of the Droobli-EU and Droobli-US numbers:
      http://i50.tinypic.com/5tz1xv.jpg
      It shows Droobli-EU is pretty much dead and has been for quite a while.

      And here are the numbers for possibly the most well-known & popular Droobli BA/Partner site, that of Jordin Sparks: jordinsparkscharities.com; just out of curiousity compared to the figures for drooblieagles.com which is the main site for “America’s leading team of GroobLi Business Associates”:

      http://i47.tinypic.com/2w5ngo1.jpg

      We see some spikes up to 2,000 but mostly the numbers are below 1,000 Unique visitors per month.

      Again, not very impressive at all.

      Droobli, what’s happening?
      Where’s the Tsunami?

2088. Comment by beavis | November 23rd, 2009

      Just because they have fake auctions and give out fake statistics doesn’t mean they are bad people otherwise Bob the Sheep would quit, wouldn’t you Bob?

2089. Comment by James Hobbs | November 23rd, 2009

      Will this affect my plans to live in Droobliland with African-American servents waiting on my every need? I want my kids to be educated at Droobli schools and then at the University of Droobliland. My dreams look like they may be shattered.

      Dear Michale Jensen, Could you please start up another Internet marketing scam so I could make some money? Please?

2090. Comment by Student ID | November 23rd, 2009

      Well my assessment is in and being graded. Kees has been a great help with his facts and sources. It really is quite unbelievable when you look at the facts itemised on paper. There is no way this company should be around this long. During my research I talked to the ACCC, and there exact words were “If we looked into each and every reverse auction scam, we would need an army of staff working 24/7. Besides if people get caught out by these scams they deserve it”.

      During my research I, via a series of ghost email addresses, contacted quiet a few BA’s both here and in the US. It is very true that there is no documentation beside the “Letter of Opinion” that states the auctions are not gambling, even though the vast majority of BA’s said it existed and they have seen the documentation. Only after I asked to see the document the border line harassing emails pushing for a sale stoped. This became my way to make them go away. I did however manage to accumulate a total 75 “free credits”. These credits I utilised to bid on various auction items. All 75 were used without success. I’m sorry but there was no fun involved. I even placed a buy now bid on a Sony video camera, which I would have accepted, for $2.75 more than what it eventually went for. When I contacted my appropriate BA, I was told it must be due to the fact I took to long to place my bid, and someone beat me to it. Even though I had been watching the price for 5 and half hours and there were only 3 bids for a total fall in price of 75 cents, in the 5 minutes when I was placing my bid it apparently dropped $2.75.

      I did however talk to an Australian that actually managed to purchase a certain product and did have it delivered within 7 days. The price however was $25 more than what he could have bought it for on ebay. When I suggested he contact Droobli for his price guarantee, he stated for 25 bucks it’s not worth the effort.

      In September I attended the Droobli circus in Brisbane and it was exactly that. I was consistently approached to join other MLM’s by the so called excited Droobli BA’s. Once out of prying eyes of people such as Rik McCoy these Droobli BA’s switched sides like there was no tomorrow. Bobby Jensen did not show up due to a “Skiing accident”.

      Anyway I can now leave the world of MLM. Thank god and good bye. To all MLM’ers Get a real job.

2091. Comment by Jerry D. | November 23rd, 2009

      Dear Mr Student ID – you’re a smart kid. You’ve received a valuable education. Stay away from the soul-destroying world of MLMs. They are evil. The people drawn to them are just idiots who dream of quick riches. They have no life. Everyone they meet is a potential contact. Someone they can use. That’s not real life. It must be terrible to be a drooblidiot. They are personality-free zones totally focused on money.

      What awful lives they must have. How can they live that way? They are terrible mean-spirited people acting like their biggest concern is someone else’s financial well-being!!! How can they live with themselves. If I was King of America I would lock up every drooblidiot. They ruin other people. We don’t need them in our country!!!

      I wish it was ‘open season’ on drooblidiots !!!

2092. Comment by kees | November 24th, 2009

      Thanks for reporting back, Student ID, interesting, I hope you’ll get a good grade for your assessment

      I’m a bit disappointed about ACCC’s take though…

2093. Comment by Eugene | November 24th, 2009

      Student ID — Once your assignment has been graded, I would be interested in seeing it. I suspect several others here would as well.

      I hope you do well — It sounds like you put a lot of work into it!

      Droobli has become my “soap opera” — every day, I check here to see what new developments have come up between the Drooblidiots and the “good guys”. Perhaps I shouldn’t find this entertaining, but for whatever reason, I do.

2094. Comment by Eugene | November 24th, 2009

      By the way, Kees — The spike on the Jordin Sparks charity page during October 2009 was probably while there was a link to that page from the Wikipedia article on Droobli that existed at the time.

      Incidentally, there still is a user page on Wikipedia on Droobli at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Textellent/droobli that was the basis for the short-lived Wikipedia article — perhaps those of you that are Wikipedia editors might want to do a little editing…

2095. Comment by kees | November 24th, 2009

      Thanks for that info, Eugene.

      Yes, Student ID, I would be interested in viewing your assessment as well.

2096. Comment by kees | November 24th, 2009

      Remember Droobli’s Newsletter from 30 Sept 2009?
      (see my post 1878, and Bob’s post 1884)

      Here’s how it opened:
      —————————-
      “Australian and New Zealand Customers Can Begin Placing Bids on GroobLi’s Auctions!

      That’s right, you heard correctly, beginning November 4, 2009 customers living in Australia and New Zealand will be able to begin placing their bids on us.droobli.com.

      We anticipate an avalanche of activity will be taking place on the auction portal, and we are ready for the impending explosive growth.”
      —————————-

      I thought it would be fair to give an update on how the UA/NZ auctions are doing and possibly also on the anticipated “avalanche of activity” and the “impending explosive growth” at the Droobli auction portal

      I see the auctions that are available for our AU/NZ cousins to bid on, now have their own separate little departments on the Droobli US site. That’s very thoughtful & nice of Droobli.

      But the number of active auctions I see (both for North America and AU/NZ) are somewhat less nice….

      Of the total of 17 Unique Bid auctions, 5 are available for AU/NZ, and of the total of 260 Xpress auctions, 48 can take bids from AU/NZ-ers…

      … well…. what can I say…. I certainly wouldn’t dare to use words like “avalanche of activity” or “explosive growth” to describe these numbers after 20 days into the AU/NZ “launch” … but maybe that’s just me…

2097. Comment by James Hobbs | November 24th, 2009

      Here are some phrases for the drooblidiots to use when they are trying to con their friends and family members into joining droobli:

      “Your financial future is my only concern”
      “I want to make you rich”
      “Droobli’s main business is providing support to families”
      “Droobli families are happy families”
      “Droobli people are people of vision”
      “Join Droobli and get in on the ground floor”
      “This thing is going viral”
      “This thing is going to explode”
      “This thing is is unstoppable”
      “Droobli BAs are becoming millionaires so can you”
      “Droobli can give you eveything you want – everything you dream of.”
      “You and your family deserve to be wealthy”
      “Anti-Droobli people are those with no imagination”
      “Every person you meet can become part of a cash stream that flows back to you”
      “When people click you receive cash – simple”
      “________ (insert any major company name) was small when it started”
      “In the future all shopping will be done this way”

      Always glad to help.

2098. Comment by Eugene | November 24th, 2009

      James — These phrases sound a lot like the ones used by a former co-worker of mine that tried to recruit me into Amway back in 1996. I guess there isn’t anything new under the sun, just like they say.

2099. Comment by beavis | November 24th, 2009

      “Droobli credits will be the new world currency”

      I made this one up

2100. Comment by Oliver South | November 25th, 2009

      Does Droobli really exist? I can’t tell from the lack of traffic. I hear it has millions of customers. Millions of BAs, yet all I see is how “small potatoes” it is. I’ve worked out that my local McDonald’s gives more to charities in a week than Droobli gives in a year. My local McDonald’s moves more number of items in 30 seconds than Droobli USA moves in a week. I’m actually surprised that anyone thinks they could make money from it.

      Now, a guy like Bob is telling us that BAs can’t find anything worthwhile to buy so they just throw away their credits at 80 cents a pop because they got them for free anyway. Like the guy thinks he’s convincing us to join such a lame company where even their BAs are bored out of their skulls and don’t want any of the droobli products.

      What a disaster droobli is. Who would join it? No, seriously?

2101. Comment by Daniel K. | November 25th, 2009

      Why can’t Droobli have their meetings in Afghanistan? Or Iraq?

2102. Comment by kees | November 25th, 2009

      Sorry, I can’t help it, but I keep finding so many ‘funny’ things on the web about Droobli…

      Referring to my earlier posts 2062 & 2082 about Droobli customer-numbers spin:

      here’s *yet another* variation I came across, once again relating to a “selected test market” in Europe, a number of “8 months” (and this time also “6″) and an x “million” number for the alleged customers.

      It seems to date from the end of 2008.

      Put this in google:
      —————–
      “Over a six month period in select European” million “8 months”
      —————–
      and you’ll see various BA sites stating: “Over a six month period in select European test markets GroobLi has rocketed to 1.3 million users, most of these coming in the last 8 months…”

      One of the most funny sites in that search is claiming all of the following (among many other things):
      (www.droobliauction101.com/non-profit)

      —————–
      “Over a six month period in select European test markets GroobLi has rocketed to 1.3 million users, most of these coming in the last 8 months with the revamp of their proprietary systems interface. It’s about to hit our American shores and is anticipated to grow exponentially by way of it’s built in, never before seen, viral system.”

      —————–
      “There are basically three ways to participate in GroobLi:

      1. Become a Free member and enjoy getting new brand name products for 10-90% off. Three auctions to choose from with 8 million products available on what will become the largest integrated shopping search engine on the planet.”

      —————–
      “Already exploded in Europe with 1.2 Million German users alone participating in Droobli Auctions (this from only 14,000 Business Associates and six months of data).”

      —————–
      “Opening in China, Japan, and eventually all major countries in the world in the near future. Chinese government already engaged.”

      —————–
      “Available now in English, German, Italian, French, German, and Danish. Will soon be in Chinese and Japanese when Asia opens.”

      —————–

      ==> “8 million products available” in the auctions…. yet there’s only a few hundred auctions running on the two Droobli sites combined…

      ==> “Chinese government already engaged” … just like in 2005 I guess?

      ==> “Available now in English, German, Italian, French, German, and Danish” … well, NOW there’s only English, German, Spanish and Danish…

      ==> “Over a six month period in select European test markets GroobLi has rocketed to 1.3 million users, most of these coming in the last 8 months” …. so, what’s it gonna be? 6 or 8 months?

      ==> “Already exploded in Europe with 1.2 Million German users alone participating in Droobli Auctions” …. so only 100,000 people from the rest of the EU + bordering countries were participating at Droobli-EU? That’s not very much, considering Droobli-EU serves *over half a billion people* in total…

      ==> “will become the largest integrated shopping search engine on the planet” …. we have Google already, no need for Droobli to re-invent the wheel…

      Much more funny stuff there (and elsewhere on Droobli BA sites), I can’t keep up with it!

2103. Comment by Only Facts | November 25th, 2009

      Droobli’s use of the term “Viral” was really starting to get to me. I began to think, have I missed something here? Have they changed the meaning of this term? Well I wasn’t wrong, however I did find this statement and thought “No truer a word spoken”.
      Among the first to write about viral marketing on the Internet was media critic Douglas Rushkoff in his 1994 book Media Virus: Hidden Agendas in Popular Culture. The assumption is that if such an advertisement reaches a “susceptible” user, that user will become “infected” (i.e., accept the idea) and will then go on to share the idea with others “infecting them,” in the viral analogy’s terms.

2104. Comment by J.D. Morgan | November 25th, 2009

      This blog is trying to make a monkey out of droobli. All droobli is trying to do is help other people. Now with a worldwide recession, there is no better time than now to rely on droobli. Droobli can help everyone. The negative people here should be ignored. If you love your family you’ll give them a droobli future. Why shouldn’t your family have the best of everything? What’s wrong with that?

2105. Comment by beavis | November 25th, 2009

      J. D. Morgan,

      Well, for starters, if I were to give my family a “Droobli future”, especially a “Gold “level” one, we’d have $3,199 less for Christmas.

      You also said: “This blog is trying to make a monkey out of droobli”. Completely wrong. Monkeys are fun and kind of cool (when they aren’t being vicious or throwing feces at you; OK, actually if they were throwing feces at you I think that would be cool, too). Droobli is just lame.

2106. Comment by Only Facts | November 25th, 2009

      JD Morgan

      Exactly how am I personally making money from this blog?
      The only people Droobli are helping are a selected few up in the hierarchy.
      With the World Wide Recession this is exactly the time to avoid these scams.
      As I have said before “In business an optimist is a person on the verge of bankruptcy”, and by the way there is a world of difference between a realist and negativity.
      If you love your family tell them so and care for them and educate them so they won’t fall for the next Droobli.
      There is nothing wrong with wanting the best for your family. However are you willing to do this at the expense of another family? If your answer is yes, then think about the person that signed you up. I bet they have the same principals.

      All you MLMers need to stop trying make a fortune from doing nothing. Get a job. If you have a job and want to supplement your income, get an education, get a better job, do overtime or get a second job. If you want to spend more time with your family, tighten your belt and work less hours. You cant have it both ways. It took me 20 years to spend more time with my family. I can also tell you I have the respect of my family and friends. They don’t duck for cover when they see me coming in case I wan’t to con them into “The next big thing”. Again.

2107. Comment by J.D. Morgan | November 25th, 2009

      Look, people want to hear about the opportunity to make more money. I keep ‘em and don’t let ‘em leave until they hear about droobli. I know it will help them. I feel it’s my public duty to ’spread the word’ about droobli. I don’t care about money I just want to help others. Droobli people are good people only trying to help others. They aren’t in it for themselves.

2108. Comment by beavis | November 25th, 2009

      Perfectly right, J.D., keep up the good work. . . stupid troll. . .

2109. Comment by Gene | November 26th, 2009

      It’s principles dopey facts. Something you don’t have.

2110. Comment by Caerl Webb | November 26th, 2009

      Gene thinks he has principles? I tell you he’s sick. He calls himself a Seventh Day Adventist but he doesn’t appear to be a Christian. The guy would sell his grandmother to make a buck. Then he tries to pimp dubious droobli to anyone he meets. Gene McNeally is some piece of work. Plays the nice guy bit but he’s just a con artist trying to rip people off. I’m going to report him to the SDA. He’s an evil menace.

2111. Comment by Marshall Duke | November 26th, 2009

      I just googled our friend Gene McNeally – the rough framing carpenter. I just have found his whole life story. Droobli isn’t his only pathetic “get rich quick scheme”.

      The moron also promotes a Siberian mushroom known as Chaga. It can help cure cancer, heart disease and 100 other conditions. (Remember this liar claims to be a Christian)

      He promotes Tri Strips Rapid Absorption Film which helps you lose weight.

      He promotes Ezino Automatic Builder. It’s some Internet thing that makes you a million bucks.

      He promotes GoTri Unity Matrix Builder – another Internet business thing.

      He promotes Ibuzzpro Automatic Recruiter. You can also make a million bucks from that.

      He sells online travel deals for two companies that no one has ever heard of – World Ventures Travel and Rovia.

      He’s in something called “Global Domains International”

      All this in case Droobli doesn’t work out. He’s a business giant is our Gene McNeally.

      The guy also claims Droobli is a “$300 Billion Business”. And he claims to be an honest guy.

      Google him for the comic relief it provides.

      Oh, and if you’re dying for any reason buy his Siberian mushrooms and you’ll be cured just ike that.

2112. Comment by Bob | November 26th, 2009

      Well…
      Good morning and Happy Thanksgiving (I am in the US).
      Think about the less fortunate if you can.

      Only Facts is doing that in his own way, and is really a pretty good Guy.

      Beavis is OK too, he just likes to have a little more fun at others expense. Everyone needs the chance to speak out I guess.

      They just do not see, or believe in Network Marketing in general.

      Droobli has had some growing pains…many companies do. And yes, there are plenty of BA’s doing stupid things which make it (and them) look bad. There are also plenty of unethical people who have polluted a valid, and amazing method of marketing as a whole (Network Marketing)…with that said:

      From what I have seen so far there is way more good than bad.
      GroobLi does have a very good concept and has plenty of value and excitement for the customer. That is why I look at it for what it is, and what it does for the customer and Partner Programs.

      The biggest problem from my view is:
      Most people jump into a network marketing company (whatever it is, some good, some not so good) with a needy posture, and actually do “try to get people to sign up.”

      Professionals never do this. People ask them about the business they are in, and how to become a customer or take advantage of the business side. They have no desire to “get people to do things.” It would be counter productive to “get someone to sign up” for example. Then you would have to get someone to go through the training, and get them to do every step of the way.

      There is no leverage that way. That would be like micromanaging a large corporation, and personally doing everything for all of your employees while they are unproductive, and never learn how to advance.

      GroobLi will be fine. Its the people who come in all different flavors that are the problem. But they can learn too.

2113. Comment by beavis | November 26th, 2009

      You’re right, Bob. If it wasn’t for these few “bad apples” Droobli wouldn’t have to fake their auctions, or lie about their history or make projections that so outrageous that they defy logic. Damn those rogue BA’s that are making Droobli do this. If we all band together, join Droobli and recruit, recruit, recruit we can build Droobli to the point that they can conduct business honestly. . . or not

2114. Comment by D.J. | November 26th, 2009

      Bob you lying creep. You said you would get out of Droobli if it could be proved that there were big question marks about the auctions. That has been done. Don’t come on like you’re the great guy with thousands of friends and you wish everyone well. You have no real relationships with other people. You just see them as potential dollar sign for you. You and Gene McNeally are real personality-free zones. Real creeps. Stay away from my kids.

2115. Comment by Only Facts | November 26th, 2009

      Morning Bob and a happy Thanks Giving to you.

      You are correct that I don’t like MLM, however Droobli is quite an ugly, and obvious one. One of the problems with MLM is the people they attract. Simply by listen to them you can quickly tell they, in fact, have very little knowledge in relation to basic business principals. Droobli BA’s constantly talking about the “amazing business model” is a prime example. Even the slightest knowledge of these things will tell you Droobli does not have one (or to be more accurate, does not share it). What they attempt to pass as a business model falls way short. However these BA’s eat it up and regurgitate the statement thinking it makes them sound professional, when in fact they are clearly showing their ignorance on the matter. For those who don’t understand the basic floors with MLM, maybe this will help.

      MLMs work by geometric expansion, where you get ten to sponsor ten to sponsor ten, and so on. This is usually shown as an expanding matrix (just don’t say “pyramid”!) with corresponding kick-backs at various levels.

      The problem here is one of common sense. At a mere three levels deep this would be 1,000 people. There goes the neighbourhood! At six levels deep, that would be 1,000,000 people believing they can make money while sleeping. But to whom? There goes the city! And the MLM is just getting its steam going. Think of all the meetings! Think of all the “dreams” being sold! Think of the false hopes being generated. Think of the money being lost.

      Nothing irritates a die-hard MLMer more than the preceding argument. If you point out the absurdity, for example, that if “the pitch” at a Droobli meeting were even moderately accurate, in something like 18 months Droobli would be larger than the GNP of the entire United States, then listen closely for a major gear-shift: “Well, that is absurd, of course. Not everyone will succeed, and so the market will never saturate.”
      Well, which is it? Are we recruiting “winners” to build a real business, or planning by design to profit off of “losers” who buy into our “confidence”?

      During “the pitch,” anyone can make it work. “It’s the opportunity of a lifetime.” “Just look at the math!” But mention the inevitable saturation and the losses this is going to cause for everyone, and then you’ll hear, “Of course it would never really work like that.” “Most will fail,” you will be told, “but not you, Mr. Recruit. You are a winner. I can just see it in your eyes.”

      If you are a starry-eyed recruit, it will grow as presented. If you are a logical sceptic, then of course it would never really work like that.

      But the dialog usually never even gets to this. The fact that MLM is in a mad dash to oversupply is largely chided as mere “Negative thinking”. Expert MLMers know how to quickly deflect this issue with parable, joke, personal testimony, or some other sleight of mind.

2116. Comment by HARRY | November 26th, 2009

      So “Gene McNeally” is the big shot around here. Internet millionaire from Omaha Nebraska. From rough framing carpenter to Mr Big Shot executive with his own websites and a ton of free credits. You’ve done well. But what’s your real business? Herbal supplements? Travel agent? Ibuzz? How do you keep your millions all sorted out?

      Also, why do you need Droobli if you’re so rich from the other stuff?

      I googled “Gene McNeally” and it just made me puke.

2117. Comment by kees | November 27th, 2009

      For the record:

      Droobli Network Newsletter 27 November, for Business Associates:

      ————————————————
      The Christmas Sweepstakes with Loads of Great Prizes

      GroobLi Network Proudly Announces the Major Holiday Event
      with Loads of Great Prizes

      “The Christmas Sweepstakes”
      December 1, 2009

      Here’s how it works:

      For the upcoming holiday season we proudly introduce a completely new, fun and different contest with loads of great prizes. We feel confident that you, along with the rest of our incredible BA’s will enjoy the competition. So if you’re in the holiday spirit …then please read on.

      Can YOU answer 25 questions correctly in 25 days?

      The Christmas Sweepstakes takes place over twenty-five (25) days leading up to Christmas Day. As a BA you will be presented with one (1) multiple choice question each day via your GroobLi Network back office. There are three (3) possible answers and you need to choose the correct one in order to be eligible for the major drawing which takes place on January 15th 2010. The drawing will include 25 lucky BA’s who have answered all twenty-five (25) questions correctly.

      There is only one (1) correct answer to each question; therefore it’s up to the individual BA to determine their best choice by clicking on the appropriate answer. At the conclusion of the contest period (25 days) a “Send Answers” button will appear in the back office. The button will not be visible until the 25th of December.

      Deadline for the competition is December 28th at CET 00.00 Berlin time.

      Once you click “Send Answers” you are NOT able to change your answers, so choose wisely! You will be able to make multiple changes to any answers prior to hitting the “Send Answers”. Very soon a special highlighted section called “The Christmas Sweepstakes” will appear in the GroobLi Network back office. Simply click on the link to open the window and follow the instructions.

      Competition Facts:

      Start date: December 1, 2009
      End date: December 25, 2009

      Deadline for sending answers:
      December 28, 2009, CET 00.00 Berlin Time

      Who can participate?
      Any BA, who purchased a Bronze, Silver or Gold Package

      How many questions?
      25

      How many possible answers?
      3, but 1 is the correct one

      How many winners will be determined?
      25

      When will the winners be announced?
      January 15, 2010

      How will the winners be chosen?
      By a random drawing that will be videotaped

      Drawing:
      Winners will be announced in this order:
      1
      2
      3
      4
      5
      6
      7
      8
      9
      10
      11 – 15
      16 – 20
      21 – 25

      *Winners will be drawn from the BA’s who correctly answered all twenty-five (25) questions and submitted them to the company before deadline. In case that no one has answered all 25 questions correctly, we will award the highest prizes to the BA’s with the most correct answers, and then second most, third most etc.

      ‘Tis the Season Du-BLi Jolly’
      Happy Holidays
      Your GroobLi Network Team

2118. Comment by kees | November 27th, 2009

      For the record:

      Droobli Newsletter 27 November, for Customers:

      ————————————————
      Daily Christmas Auction Surprises
      Enter Droobli’s Christmas Draw and finish off Big!

      NEW Daily Christmas Auction Surprises

      Starting on December 1st and ending December 25th 2009, GroobLi will be holding its first ever “Daily Christmas Auction Surprises.” As always we will be carrying a large assortment of the latest in-demand, hot selling items available in time for the your Christmas shopping; however we’ve added a fun twist which is guaranteed to grab your attention.

      The Daily Christmas Auction Surprises will take place each day from December 1st through December 25th. Here’s what makes it so special; you would normally be able to view any item that you want to bid on. But not this time! Remember no peeking at Christmas time? We will only reveal the actual market value. Isn’t that crazy fun? It’s just like receiving a Christmas present that still has the wrapping on it.

      Let’s say that the Daily Christmas Auction Surprises displays a market value of $250. That’s all you know. What could it possibly be? Every item on this special auction is hidden until conclusion of the auction. It could be an iPod Touch, or an Xbox 360, or perhaps a Garmin Nuvi 760 GPS System, or how about a SONY Digital Camera? Who knows, it’s a surprise…but remember every day until the final day of December 25th we will step up the value on the items on this special auction.

      We invite all of you to get into the Christmas spirit and start placing your holiday bids. Look for the special section on GroobLi.com called “Daily Christmas Auction Surprises” and enjoy the shopping experience of the season.

      One new item per day and will be revealed only at the conclusion of the day’s auction, then it begins all over again the next day until the official end on December 25.th The auction will run from December 1st through December 24th on the EU portal and from December 1st through December 25th on the US portal.

      Enter GroobLi’s Christmas Draw and Finish off Big! How?

      Every successful bidder in GroobLi’s Daily Christmas Auction Surprises will go into a grand prize drawing held at the conclusion of the auction. One lucky person will receive a Grand Prize valued at $1,500. There will only be 25 participants (Europe 24) in this special drawing, so the odds are in your favor. All you have to do is be one of the successful bidders on the Daily Christmas Auction Surprises and you’re in. If you are the awardee of more auctions, you will receive a ticket per auction. The drawing takes place on December 28th and the winner’s name will be announced in the company’s newsletter on December 31st, so good luck to all.

      It’s been an incredible year at GroobLi and 2009 is about to end, but we have 2010 coming up just around the corner and it’s sure to be even better. We want to personally thank all of you for the outstanding contribution you have made to the success of our company and wish each and every member of our GroobLi family a blessed holiday season.

      Happy Holidays…
      Your GroobLi Team

2119. Comment by kees | November 27th, 2009

      This happy customer saved -15% on an Xpress Auction
      (yep that’s MINUS 15%)

      h t t p : / / us.droobli.com/Lowboy-A-Novel__5e_6629
      ————————–
      Lowboy: A Novel (hardcover)

      Congratulations!
      This is how you really save money: we congratulate the buyer on being awarded this item.
      And the best thing is: we guarantee the best price!

      Sold for:
      $17.75
      Value:
      $15.50

      Shipping costs: 2 Points

      Saved: -15%
      Successful bidder:
      chookie
      ————————–

      Now that’s some real money-saving!
      And the shipping costs are only “2 points” = $5.95 for the US, $43.95 for Australia/New Zealand and $67.95 for Mexico

      jpg screenshot:
      http://i49.tinypic.com/2qny5py.jpg

2120. Comment by Mark | November 27th, 2009

      Hi Guys
      quick note from the land of OZ(australia)GroobLi is off and running people are grabbing bargains up to 20 to 30% AFTER shipping and currency exchange compared to best local prices can also shop through the US GroobLi mall for accommodation car hire and flights and get CASH back it is AWESOME us aussies love a bargain
      ps thanks for the exposure

2121. Comment by beavis | November 27th, 2009

      Mark,

      You’re lying; but you’re welcome anyway.

2122. Comment by David Q. Prine | November 27th, 2009

      Mark – you’re an idiot, so shut up. You act like Droobli is the shopping savior of Australia. Aussies have been able to buy online for a long time. Droobli is only “off and walking” not “running”. Mark it will fail and you will lose most of your initial investment.

      Mark, you want to get rich with no effort. It won’t happen. I blame all the people who gave you all the super-positive spin about Droobli. They were lying. Could you please write back on this blog about 6 months from now and tell us how your Droobli millions are going? But I mean honestly? Not with the Droobli lying? Could you do that?

2123. Comment by Bob "Open Fly" Phillips | November 27th, 2009

      Asking a drooblidiot to be honest is an impossible task. Don’t bother. They all deserve to lose their money.

2124. Comment by Mark | November 27th, 2009

      i Tanya & Mark
      Exciting news from down south in the land of Tasmania.

      At a GroobLi social function last Friday night Michael bought along his GroobLi purchase
      being a Notebook/Netbook (see the auction – there are others there I think).
      He tells me it was near on $400 (original price), he saved $180 (after the freight that was around $70) – so an actual cash saving of $180 off best price available in Hobart
      Hi Guys this just came through from one in our team as I said people are buying getting bargains and having FUN
      and yes beavis people are making money and taking advantage of this wonderful opportunity

2125. Comment by Mark | November 27th, 2009

      Hi dave
      I have been in business all my life both Traditional and home based with 3 companies have only ever worked for a boss for 1 year there is no such animal as making money for no effort but if you find a good business model and work professionally and ethically and especially consistently you can have the time and money there are 55 million in the direct sales industry world wide and growing, it is a train that is impossible to stop,we are mature smart business people and no we dont get hysterical about investing 3 grand as I said people are shopping getting bargains and having fun. In Aussie we have a “best price guarantee” that INCLUDES freight we are making money and are very happy campers and again thanks for the exposure!!

2126. Comment by beavis | November 28th, 2009

      Mark said:

      “it is a train that is impossible to stop”

      Sorry Mark, the Droobli train never really got started. Hate to break it to you but if you had bothered to have read the previous post by kees and Only Facts you would know this. Too many of the auction results, as previously stated, are mathematically impossible. No matter what you claim, your vague, unfounded stories of success do not change this. This is called “facts” verses your Droobli fiction. In Nigeria (a haven for fraud) they refer to those suckered into a scam as a “mugu”, meaning “fool”. A “guyman” is a “master of fools”. You are no guyman.

2127. Comment by Mark | November 28th, 2009

      beavis you guys are behaving like hysterical teenage girls(apologies to the girls)
      no matter what you say we have many happy customers shopping and saving money with GroobLi if you understand business and it is so obvious you dont it will take years to fully realize their business model and in that time there will be ups and downs like ANY business I am happy to see that through I will include our earning for september.Organizational commissions September 2009 USD 14460.72 we have enrolled 20 people and have 300 in our group we have worked hard-and will continue to do so with this quite brilliant business.

2128. Comment by Martin | November 28th, 2009

      And Mark, by saying “ORGANIZATIONAL commissions September 2009 USD 14460.72″ are you pointing to the fact that this money came from the 300 sign-ups – NOT from sales of products to ‘many happy customers shopping and saving money with GroobLi’?
      I’ll allow that Australia is just starting – if you can point to ANY country that isn’t in exactly the same position even long after Droobli has launched there.
      Big commission checks are not evidence that this is a sound business model.

2129. Comment by Mark | November 28th, 2009

      Hi Martin
      we are currently earning about 10 to 15 K a month we only opened on the 4th of November and have started to gather customers as we speak if you understand that after the first 5 months in Australia E bay had 9000 customers and now after the 10 year anniversary now has 8 million in Australia alone you have to give these businesses time how long for heavens sake did amazon run at a loss?it was the laughing stock of “real business”who’s laughing now?I am happy ,this is my first and last day of posting amongst a group of has beens and never wases,we are talking small investments here look whats happened globally in the last 12 months the big ripoff is get a secure job with a big company work your guts out for 20 years to just get by get layed off and lose your retirement through no fault of your own if you think that is the “go”then goodluck!!!I am off to amke Droobli as big a success as possible and if I fail at least I have had a go.
      and again thanks for the exposure and a few laughs.

2130. Comment by kees | November 28th, 2009

      Mark said:
      “after the first 5 months in Australia E bay had 9000 customers”

      Well, that’s even more customers than Droobli has been able to achieve in the past 6 years when we consider that on 28 November 2009 only about 7800 auctions have been completed on Droobli-EU and Droobli-US combined. And many of those auctions have been “won” by BA’s, not even ‘real’ customers.
      See:
      “Droobli’s completed auctions – the past 495 days”
      http://droobli-unofficial.blogspot.com/2009/11/drooblis-completed-auctions-past-495-days.html

      And with less than 50 Droobli “fun” auctions available for the many millions of potential customers from Australian and New Zealand combined, the customer-commissions won’t be impressive.

      Any substantial commissions you get are obviously coming from signed-up other BA’s who paid handsomely to be part of the Droobli “Global Trade Portal” that has been hyped to become “global” since 2003 again & again, and now *again*, for the *umpteenth time* has been postponed to become “global” until at least March 2010.

      In 2006 Bobby Jensen stated:
      (Network-Karriere Magazine)
      ————————————
      “There is a significant investor family from the Near East behind Droobli, who have committed themselves to invest a multiple of the previous investment sum in the future”
      ————————————

      If that were true, why did he need all the money he happily has been collecting from his “ambassadors”, “droobli-invest.com”-participators and “business associates” since 2003, while making all sorts of outlandish claims and promises regarding his “global trading protal” and number of “customers” that yet have to become materialized?

      Maybe to buy his big villa at the luxurious Palm Jumeirah island in Dubai?

2131. Comment by beavis | November 28th, 2009

      Oh, I guess Mark’s “DroobliFacts” have collided once again with those darn, pesky “real world” facts. Nothing a good webinar and a conference call with the upline to make it all better, stupid sheep. . .

2132. Comment by kees | November 28th, 2009

      “Oh, I guess Mark’s “DroobliFacts” have collided once again with those darn, pesky “real world” facts”

      Yep Beavis, and the real funny part is that with a little digging all the facts & figures are right there, to be found in the Droobli pages/sites themselves…

      What’s NOT so funny however is that Mark is bragging about getting nice $$$’s and “we are mature smart business people and no we dont get hysterical about investing 3 grand” while this Droobli-Network advice is still online, on a Droobli-owned site:

      —————————-
      “I have no money to get into Network Marketing”
      “Do you believe that excuse yourself? Then get the money! Borrow it from your parents or grandparents.”
      —————————-
      (visit my blog to see the details)

      Of course 3 grand isn’t a lot of money for “mature smart business people” but it IS for the young people who Droobli seems to be targeting there…. people who have to turn to their parents or grand parents when they need money….

      And to me it seems that at least one “mature business” guy has gotten a similar idea about targeting young people when I read this:
      (about 1/4 down on the page:
      http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/forum_sunday_august_23)

      —————————-
      “A question, fellow bloggers: What do you know about Droobli, and should it be referred to
      ASIC?

      My son was asked to dinner on Thursday evening, with other friends of his. A father (an acountant) of one of the lads put this Droobli proposition to them, ie, invest $3500, get in on the new alternative to eBay, a “dutch” reverse auction system where the object may never sell but every hit/inquiry earns a Droobli member 80c.

      This Droobli scheme has ordinary, silver and gold levels of return according to the original investment, and the higher level of investment, the higher the return. Supposedly. But you must put your money in before October 1 or miss the opportunity to make millions.

      Sounds familiar?

      Pardon me for being a cynical old bird of 54yrs, but I have seen every scam ever launched in the pyramid/ponzi industry, and this is a new one specifically being marketed to young people in their 20s, and most despicably in my son’s case by the father of one of his friends.

      My son had the good sense to ask me to run the ruler over it, and it stinks just like every other scam, so if you have someone tapping you about this “unique” Droobli opportunity, get the prospectus and send it to ASIC, along with details of people who are promoting it.”
      —————————-

      I hope YOU do not have such ‘tactics’, Mark, I hope you only get your nice commissions from other “mature smart business people” that “dont get hysterical about investing 3 grand” and not from the young and vulnerable without much money or life experience….

2133. Comment by kees | November 28th, 2009

      ps. the post I quoted from the concerned parent is from
      Sun 23 Aug 09 (04:12am)

2134. Comment by Teacher A | November 28th, 2009

      Mark you’re an idiot. You’ll lose your money. You’ve already started to lie. You’ve already begun to try to cover up about what a miserable investment Droobli is. You can’t really fool yourself. Mark, Droobli is over. Mark did you know how Bernie Madoff had to recruit his marks from place other than Manhatten? You know how he went to Florida and then needed more pigeons so he went to Hollywood. There you have Droobli. The good people of Australasia are ripe for the pickings. And Mark, you deserve to lose everything you possess. But that’s all right. A valuable lesson will be learned and you’re are young enough to start again. Hey, do you want a real job?

2135. Comment by Bob Barker | November 28th, 2009

      Hey Mark, the guy who brought the notebook computer that he bought at auction. He was happy for a discount. I want to know if all the other people who paid 80 cents a time to see a price, if they came too? You know all the other Droobli people who pay 80 cents here and there all the time and always miss out? Were they there? Or couldn’t they afford to go?

      Droobli is going to collapse and you’re lied about the money you’ve earned. Mark, thanks for the exposure.

2136. Comment by Big Karl | November 28th, 2009

      Hey, Mark you mentioned a Droobli social event. That’s hilarious. What a great time people must have had. A room full of using jerks. A total personality-free zone !!

      Don’t ever invite me !!!!!

2137. Comment by Mark | November 28th, 2009

      Get a real job!!!! like the millions that have been lost in the last year with their lifetime retirement benefits gone now thats some great advice from you learned gentlemen or hysterical teenage girls(once again apologies to the girls)
      get a life I have tried to provide some rational advice from someone who has actually developed a good sized business mostly with other small business owners like myself and I will say it again we are happy with the resualts thus far!
      over and definately out from me

2138. Comment by beavis | November 28th, 2009

      But I want to go to the Droobli social event.

2139. Comment by Mark | November 28th, 2009

      Beavis you are not invited,I have tried to have a rational discussion,but realize that is impossible when talking to names like “beavis”big karl,eaglescout,teacher a etc this is like a discussion for kindergarten kids
      have a good one guys
      take care
      Mark

2140. Comment by beavis | November 28th, 2009

      That’s “Mr. Beavis” to you, sir.

2141. Comment by Gene | November 29th, 2009

      Hey google me some more. I put it out there so people find it. Wow.

      Like I am doing terrible things helping people with their health with nutrition.

      I think Jesus did that didn’t he. Oh he was a carpenter too. We can’t have people traveling now and saving money on it can we? You make fun of you know not what. Real good guys. Terrible people that push nutrition.

      You guys are a real work of art. Of course you have a lot to do with who you are.

      You see I do really work for a living. Can you build a house?

      What do you do? Just make sure you become one of my customers. I’ll take your money too. Oh

      by the way notice just one of the things in the mushrooms I promote and there are more.

      Betulinic acid is a pentacyclic triterpene. It has several botanical sources, but can also be chemically derived from betulin, a substance found in abundance in the outer bark of white birch trees (Betula alba). Betulinic acid has been found to selectively kill human melanoma cells while leaving healthy cells alive. Fo…r the past four decades, the incidence of melanoma has been increasing at a higher rate than any other type of cancer http://biotech.icmb.utexas.edu/

      http://www.responsemagic.com/optin.php?UI=38216&U=gencol&L=11&FE=aroundthis@gmail.com&N=1&hideSError=0&FN=Y&formTitle=more+info+FB

2142. Comment by beavis | November 29th, 2009

      Gene is a snake oil salesman! Who would have thought

2143. Comment by kees | November 29th, 2009

      Gene, on your website you say:
      “In Germany there are millions of customers”

      I’m sure there are millions of customers in Germany…. they’re just not shopping at Droobli-EU

      Haven’t you seen the stats from their own website?
      Only 2000 items were sold in their “fun” auctions since July 2008… you do know what that means, don’t you?

      In case you don’t, let me explain it to you: that means in the past 1.5 year there have only been at most 2000 buyers at the Droobli-EU auctions, and lots of those buyers are BA’s, so by definition they’re not even ‘customers’…

      (visit my blog for more details on what I claim)

      And there’s no shopping mall on Droobli-EU, so that won’t attract “millions of customers” either…

      You also said:
      “Yes it’s been a success there even with a downturn in the economy”

      Can you define “success” for me?

2144. Comment by kees | November 29th, 2009

      Mark, have you read my post 2132 in which I mentioned Droobli’s apparent targeting of young people with their advice:

      —————————-
      “I have no money to get into Network Marketing”
      “Do you believe that excuse yourself?
      Then get the money!
      Borrow it from your parents or grandparents.”
      —————————-

      and in which I gave an ‘real-life’ example from a concerned parent mentioning how her/his young son was urged, by the father of one of his friends, during a dinner to which he was invited, to put his money in before October 1 or “miss the opportunity to make millions”

      Doesn’t this apparent “strategy” to target young people bother you?

2145. Comment by Bob "Open Fly" Phillips | November 29th, 2009

      Gene is a real creep. He knows that if his miracle drink/mushrooms or whatever had the properties he claims then it would be endorsed by the AMA and would be widely distributed making more money for the people who discovered it. But, no, it remains untested.

      If Gene is such a great guy why doesn’t he just give it to people? Gene, if you really think it could cure someone’s cancer why don’t you just give it to them?

      You miracle cure cretins make me sick. Amoral people who should be taken out and shot. Typical drooblidiot.

2146. Comment by Darryl Cotton | November 29th, 2009

      Just looking at photos of Gene McNeally makes me sick. The guy is a typical idiot hiding behind Seventh Day Adventism. Ellen G. White would be rolling around in her grave if she knew creeps like Gene McNeally were around scaring little kids. Omaha is not a safe town if Gene lives there. Town jerk.

2147. Comment by Gene | November 29th, 2009

      Oh now Darryl stop it. Beav you come up with some interesting names. Make sure you all check out what I have to offer. What a cesspool blog. Can I say that as a Christian. Oh I think I can.Picking on a nice guy like me. Shame on you. I’ve got more pics on facebook.

2148. Comment by sleepytime beavis | November 29th, 2009

      Gene, tell us more fairy tales of valor and Droobli profits. Your stories are the best! Oh, and I know it’s off topic, but can you tell us that one about how the AMA suppresses cancer cures to protect the profits of their members and the brave MLMers who save the sick masses with magic mushrooms; that’s my favorite one.

2149. Comment by Gene | November 29th, 2009

      You’re getting a lot of hits here aren’t you? That’s all you’re doing here beav/eagle/dopey/whatever name you use. I help you out here and look how your treat me. How low can you go. But no matter. Just cause you don’t agree doesn’t make you any authority. By the way brilliant ones the (AMA) doesn’t have anything to do with nutrition. So beav are you into evolution? You don’t think

      God made anything in nature to help the masses? Well I do. In fact I know. Please people don’t click on any of the links on this blog unless you wish to support them.

      Why support these kind? People see through you beav/eagle/dopey/whatever.

      Oh beav the states on their website is not indicative on anything maybe you’ve missed something. You keep ignoring the facts.

      So I can say they have millions of customers in Germany. Beav if you want to give my products to people go ahead but make sure you buy them from me. Here is something you can get in your own yard. It is as free as God’s grace.

      http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_2002_June/ai_86387561/ They do study natural things for potential health promoting properties and if you really bothered to look the sites over you’d see that there are many studies. I just gave you one above. Look and see.

2150. Comment by sleepytime beavis | November 29th, 2009

      . . . zzzzzzzzzzzzz. . . zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. . . zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. . .

2151. Comment by J. D. Conroy (Omaha) | November 29th, 2009

      Gene McNeally from Omaha how can you sell cancer cures? Sell your house and buy all the magic mushrooms you can. Then take it to hospitals and cancer wards.

      Don’t you dare keep profiting off the misfortune of others. Atone for your Droobli and Chaga sins now. Do it. You don’t need more money. If you really believe what you’re selling will cure cancer give it away.

      How can you make money off of cancer victims? What sort of sick animal are you?

2152. Comment by Beej | November 29th, 2009

      My father died of prostate cancer. We had people trying to sell miracle drinks at $70 a bottle. I can’t say in this blog what I think about Mr Gene McNeally. It’s unprintable. He is the lowest form of bottom feeding scum. Typical of the kind who see cancer as a “business opportunity”.

      Gene maybe you could have made money while my father bled from every part of his body. He was an old Marine who would have eaten limp-wristed jerks like you for breakfast.

      There’s a new business idea for you. Instead of “make money while you sleep” you could say with your Chaga mushrooms “make money while others suffer”. Quite catchy. A surefire way to make money from cancer victims.

      Gene, don’t cross the street in front of my car.

2153. Comment by beavis the benevolent | November 29th, 2009

      If you study a bit of anthropology you will see where Gene (and others) get their beliefs. Before you judge too harshly, remember, it is human nature to believe crap like this. I’m not saying it shouldn’t be stopped; quite the opposite. Just don’t discount the possibility that this gullible fool might actually believe in what he is selling. Then again, selling snake oil to cancer victims is pretty bad. . . never mind; I rescind my comment.

2154. Comment by Gene | November 29th, 2009

      Beav you need to look this nutrition thing over a bit more. I understand it influences thinking.

      When you call someone a fool you put yourself in the place of a judge or God and it can be very precarious

      at best, you better be careful but you’re not claiming your are a Christian. By the way you have a warped idea

      of what one is. Did you know what the Bible says about calling someone a fool. Check it out. Matthew 5:22

      In this day in age someone would have to be foolish to discount nutrition. People are getting

      cancer because of poor choices in many cases and I am sorry to hear about those who have suffered but much of

      it is needless. Prevention is the key. Keep your immune system up. You can study other cultures (anthropology) and see for a fact that they don’t get the diseases that the

      western diet causes. It’s a new day boys and you really should look into the new science which really is old. The Bible

      also tells us to eat that which is good. Isaiah 55:2 Does it make

      any sense to kill yourself to kill cancer with the chemicals that are used? This war on drugs has been going on for millennia, natural as opposed to men’s miss use of what has been given already in nature. Man thinks he can improve on God. Now that’s foolish. Eat right, drink good water, don’t eat or drink/smoke what isn’t good for you, get regular and plenty of sleep, trust in God and do what He says, try to get fresh air, sunshine then get plenty of exercise. If anyone wants to point the finger as to why cancer takes a person and why they should suffer then look at what’s being done for them and how they lived. Life choices have consequences. Now the use of man’s slash and burn techniques, that’s witchcraft if you ask me. That’s evil.

      Take a look at and compare the use of certain fats,

      polyunsaturated and saturated. One type can kill. I wouldn’t cast the mushrooms as snake oil that’s an over generalization. If people weren’t locked in their ways and be so stubborn maybe God could reach through.

      You pride yourself in facts, then look at them. Look over my sites there are plenty of facts about the good these can do. Make a google search with my name you’ll find them.

      But again this is a blog. You just want content. I give you plenty. But people don’t click on the sites for this blog. They’ll make more money to get top rankings and support their evil machinations.

      If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I [am] the LORD that healeth thee. Ex 15:26

      Read Leviticus 11. Did you know that The Israelites were to take out all the blood out of the meat before they could eat it? Yeah they had to beat all the blood out. Also they were only permitted to eat certain kinds of meat. Did you know that if you eat meat with the blood still in it you were going against New Testament instruction.

      As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written [and] concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from [things] offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication.

      Four things mentioned there.

      But if you don’t believe in God you don’t believe he wishes us to have health nor do you understand he gave us a way to eat in the beginning so if in fact God is true and what he says is true and people go against the all wise God chances are they will suffer the consequences.

      And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which [is] upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which [is] the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. Genesis 1:29

      Later after sin entered he gave further instruction to meet man’s need as a consequence of sin and after the flood,

      Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. But flesh with the life thereof, [which is] the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.

      If you want to buy online why not just shop my online store and you could get free credits to look at the auctions.

      Click This Link To Play The Audio Message
      http://playaudio-345.com/play.asp?m=534858&f=TXJYDR&ps=7&p=1

2155. Comment by Only Facts | November 29th, 2009

      I have a question for Bob.

      Now you have experienced yet another moral free zone such as Gene. Do you still truly believe it is not important who Droobli is? We now enter the realm of guilt through association.

2156. Comment by Lord Chief Justice beavis | November 29th, 2009

      Just a minute, Gene, I’m putting my waders on. . .

2157. Comment by John John | November 30th, 2009

      Gene has entered the freak zone. I don’t criticize anyone’s Christian belief. It makes the most sense to me. However, with Gene he really is the biggest money-grubbing creep I’ve ever met. He then covers it with religion. He’s an arrogant little man. A challenge went out to Gene to give away his cancer-curing mushrooms. Yet he just ignores that.

      Gene doesn’t care about your cancer. All anyone represents to him is money. It’s his God. He doesn’t give a damn for anyone or anythin g but his money god. He worships idols. The idol of money.

      Gene you hypocrite, why don’t you just shut up? You make me want to vomit. Don’t know how your wife stands being touched by you. You’re a creepy little man. Stay away from public pools. I don’t want you to go near any kids in Omaha. You live there don’t you? Maybe I could stop by and have a chat?

2158. Comment by Pastor David White | November 30th, 2009

      I call upon you Gene McNeally to stop mixing religion with your avarice. You could be driving people away from ever seeking salvation. I’ve read your religious writings. I won’t say too much about that. I think you might sincerely believe you’re saved. But what about your heart attitude? I agree with “John John”. You seem to have made some unwise choices in your life.

      Turn your life around and get back on the narrow road. You’ve abandoned your Christian principles for mere money.

      (By the way – I think Ellen G. White was a crank. Funny how she’s a woman yet the SDA doesn’t allow women preachers. )

      Gene, go back to the day you thought you were saved. Start again. You seemed to have learned nothing of value years down the road.

2159. Comment by Gene Malfunction | November 30th, 2009

      SDAs get cancer too. Just in lower rates than the normal population. So why do some Seventh Day Adventists get cancer? According to Gene it’s a moral failure. Judge not Mr Gene. There’s a slow train coming.

      Gene have you ever looked at pornography? Ever?

2160. Comment by Mark | November 30th, 2009

      how are the girls tonight? beavis eaglescout,big carl teacher A,etc etc another month gone another 12 grand paycheck from Droobli all is good in the land of oz people are shopping grabbing bargains and having fun,business is literally ON-FIRE and only just getting started.
      hope to hear some more squealing from you guys/girls in the future
      such smart folks

2161. Comment by Lord Chief Justice beavis | November 30th, 2009

      Mark,

      I’ll take a Big Mac, a medium Coke, a large fry and don’t forget the ketchup.

2162. Comment by kees | November 30th, 2009

      Mark, I see you still didn’t reply to my reference in post 2144 and 2132 to Droobli-Network’s advice to “borrow from your parents or grandparents” if you don’t have the money to become a BA, and my question to you about the apparent targeting of young people to hand over their (or their (grand)parents) money to Droobli. But it’s okay, I guess your silence on this issue *is* a reply.

      On another note:
      Browsing through the completed Xpress auctions on Droobli-US you can find many hundreds of auctions that closed at exactly ZERO dollars (labelled: “Saved 100%”). Often you’ll see one and the same winner for many of these in a row. Quite a few of these “Saved 100%” winners ONLY win auctions with 100% saved. This looks quite suspect.

      And are we to believe that none of the other participating down-bidders thought it worthwhile to buy these items for a few dimes or or a few dollars?

      Remember that every participating down-bidder has to pay 80 cents to view and down-bid the price of the item, dropping it by only 25 cents per view.

      Are we to believe that none of the other participating down-bidders had a moment where he/she thought “Hey that’s a bargain, I’ll buy it right NOW” at savings of say 10% to 25%, let alone savings of 30%, 40%, 50%, 60%, 70%, 80% or 90%?

      And even at 99% saving no-one was willing to buy?

      How realistic is that?

      Here are about 400 of extremely unlikely Xpress auctions with 100%-savings achieved:
      http://droobli-unofficial.blogspot.com/2009/11/drooblis-hundreds-of-unlikely-100-saved.html

      Don’t you think that’s a bit strange, Mark?

2163. Comment by Todd | November 30th, 2009

      Whoooo, GroobLi is now a publicly traded company. Just one more building step for GroobLi.

      http://www.medianetgroup.com/index.cfm?template=news1.cfm

      GroobLi’s next steps:

      1. Just signed a deal so shipping rates are exact same as amazon or better

      2. Just signed a 10 year lease for a new 10,000 sq-ft office building in Florida. Grand opening, March 1st.

      4. Open GroobLi auctions to the world on March 1st

      3. Create a a system, just like PayPal.

      Go GroobLi!! Keep up the good work.

      Oh and keep a look out beginning December 1st for some exciting news.

2164. Comment by Gene | November 30th, 2009

      Great news Todd!

      Beav now you’re a pastor. So he called ten of his servants, delivered to them ten minas,* and said to them, ‘Do business till I come.’ or “Calling ten of his servants,* he gave them ten minas,* and said to them, ‘Engage in business until I come.’So he called ten of his servants and gave them ten minas.*‘Put this money to work,’ he said, ‘until I come back.’And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come. Luke 19:13 different versions of course.
      So beav white it seems business is and integral part of Christianity. Read your Bible then you won’t be in the dark ages. Avarice! LOL Just an online store here what a joke. Honest business that’s all. So why do you spend so much time here beav?

      I mean you’re beating up on a company that’s growing stronger all the time yes a growing and success-oriented online shopping company with its exciting and recognized global reverse auction and fun shopping house . At the same time, the company offers people around the world a unique opportunity to generate extra income through their own lucrative part-time or full-time business.A real online business. Should all the stores close?

      Is that what you want? I mean stores offer a service. They gather products that you need and use which makes life easier for you. What if there were no stores or no competition? Our auction’s beginning prices beat any on the net. So why not bid 80 cents and buy it then and there. You’ll save money. But you can’t have that beav right? And anyone that would facilitate something like that you start with your fallacies and impune their character. Do you buy anything online? Have you even tried the auctions? Leave people alone and let them take advantage of the good deals with this company. You picked the wrong company to blast on a blog.

      By the way there are a lot of facters as to why anyone gets cancer. Diet is only one. I don’t remember me saying anything about a cure. Why ever get it if you can avoid it? Also I don’t live in a city.

2165. Comment by Lord Chief Justice beavis | November 30th, 2009

      Todd,

      Please elaborate:

      “1. Just signed a deal so shipping rates are exact same as amazon or better” — With who and where is your third verified source?

      “2. Just signed a 10 year lease for a new 10,000 sq-ft office building in Florida. Grand opening, March 1st.” — Located where, with who and where is your third verified source?

      “4. Open GroobLi auctions to the world on March 1st” — show me something.

      “3. Create a a system, just like PayPal.” — since when does “3″ come after “4″ ? Don’t bother to explain the PayPal claim; it’s bullshit.

2166. Comment by Lord Chief Justice beavis | November 30th, 2009

      Read that as “third party verified source”.

2167. Comment by Lone Wolf | November 30th, 2009

      Hey Gene McNeally (miracle mushroom moron), Mark, Jason Switzer, etc …. if Droobli is only just an online store why bother with creating BAs? Why charge people to check prices?

      Why doesn’t Bobby Jensen just open an online store and keep all the mooney? Have you guys ever wondered that?

      He sells BA levels and charges people to peek at prices because that is where money is made. He’s actually exploiting the BAs and you idiots are too dumb to see it. All the while you BAs get told the big money will come soon.

      Michael just keeps moving from country to country. Keep really in the BAs Mr Jensen. Those idiots deserve to lose everything they have.

      Hey BAs keep clicking auctions down to zero with all the credits you’ve bought. Droobli will turn the corner soon. ha ha ha

      Great business plan? For Bobby Jensen it is. Suckers !!!!!

2168. Comment by al | November 30th, 2009

      YOUR The “IDIOT”

2169. Comment by Joe | November 30th, 2009

      Have you heard of 434u.The biggest scam out there” Be cautious”
      Mr Tiny is stealing your info…………….Control FREAK!!

2170. Comment by Lone Wolf | November 30th, 2009

      Al you can’t spell “you’re” as in “you are the idiot”. Typical of the morons who love Droobli. Droobli loves white trash. The great clean up is coming.

      Suddnely people with no education are becoming instant businessmen with Droobli. It just doesn’t work that way. Dumb is as dumb does.

2171. Comment by beavis | November 30th, 2009

      al said:

      “YOUR The “IDIOT””

      I guess that means Lone Wolf possesses an idiot. Yeah, I know, that doesn’t make any sense to me, either. Maybe it wasn’t directed at Lone Wolf. . . still doesn’t make sense. I guess I’ll try to figure out what Gene is saying instead. . . on second thought, maybe I’ll just go watch TV instead. I’ll just avoid the religious channels as that would be like reading Gene’s posts (“praise God, send me money, you’ll burn in Hell, send me money”).

2172. Comment by beavis | November 30th, 2009

      Al, Gene the Village Drooblidiot, Bob the Sheep and Jason “The Donkey” Switzer, just for the record, you are not smarter than a fifth grader.

2173. Comment by Kite Potaro | December 1st, 2009

      Gene could you help out. I need a return ticket to Montreal, some Chaga mushrooms and a $25, 000 Rolex for $5000.

      And, do you have any other businesses that you do? I need keys cut? Oh, could you build a play fort for my kids?

      Gene McNeally – the Renaissance Man.

2174. Comment by Kevin J. Manders | December 1st, 2009

      I want to be Gene McNeally. I want his wife (so bad), his family, his business, his personality. I want it all. I want to take him over. I think I could do it.

2175. Comment by beavis | December 1st, 2009

      How come DroobliLand is nowhere to be found on Google Earth? Cayman Brac is so small it’s hard to miss a 34 home tract being prepped.More Droobli bullshit.

2176. Comment by Eugene | December 1st, 2009

      Droobli land isn’t visible because it only exists in the heads of Droobli dreamers. I expect that Droobli Land will open shortly after the time share condos in the Emerald City of Oz.

2177. Comment by Jake | December 1st, 2009

      Bobby Jensen is a genius. He’s created this elaborate scheme (I didn’t say ’scam’) to make it look like he’s selling stuff online. But the margins on that stuff is tiny because Droobli is a third or fourth party middle man. The big bucks come from the hype generated and then the consequential selling of the “junior businessman’s kits” or Business Associate Bronze, Silver and Gold levels (with “Platinum”, “diamond” and “Presidential” levels to come). The reverse auctions also generate income because three times as much is paid for goods (because of the 80 cents a peek brilliant marketing concept).

      Bobby Jensen you are a genius. How did you locate so many stupid people? How could you string them along for so long without them getting suspicious?

      Could I have your sucker list of those stupid, gullible people known as Droobli Business Associates? I have a second-hand telephone book money-making opportunity I want to sell them. They’d be stupid enough to join up.

2178. Comment by Jake | December 1st, 2009

      This is what moron Gene McNeally said:

      “Our auction’s beginning prices beat any on the net. So why not bid 80 cents and buy it then and there. You’ll save money.”

      So Gene why did someone interested in buying a $200 credit card click on the price and found it cost 50 cents and didn’t buy it? The person spent 80 cents to look at the price and then thought 50 cents was too much. Those are results quoted by Droobli.

      Gene you know that didn’t happen. Droobli people are morons (btw Gene ‘facter’ is spelled ‘factor’) but they wouldn’t spend 80 cents and then think it was too much at 50 cents. Gene would you be a big enough moron to do that? You would?

      And also Gene you make out like you spend money to check a price and then you get it. If there are a lot of buyers you’ll spend a lot of 80 cents a time and never get anything. That’s the reason that hardly anyone ever gets anything at a droobli auction (unlike millions of items sold every day on ebay.

      Great Business Model? What planet are you from again?

2179. Comment by beavis | December 1st, 2009

      Jake,

      Save your breath; Gene always avoids this question because there is no right answer for a Drooblidiot. You are absolutely right as no one would miss buying the $200 credit card for 50 cents after having spent 80 cents to see the price.

      NEWSFLASH: Droobliland can’t be seen by Google Earth because it will actually be subterranean. Bobby Jensen has recruited giant moles to dig out a huge cavern into Cayman Brac. In exchange for digging the giant cavern the moles were promised Bentley convertibles and Breitling Bentley watches as soon as the VP’s and SVP’s qualify for all of the lots. Damn, those moles are lucky.

2180. Comment by Eurasia | December 1st, 2009

      Laugh at Droobli all you want. My cousin make $80,000 a week from Droobli.

2181. Comment by beavis | December 1st, 2009

      We all do. The purpose of this blog is to keep the awesome money making secret of Droobli all to ourselves.

2182. Comment by beavis | December 1st, 2009

      Eurasia,

      Care to buy a jack-a-lope?

2183. Comment by Kevin J. Manders | December 2nd, 2009

      Hyperbole is one of the mainstays of the Droobli con. Know what I mean, Gene?

2184. Comment by Paulie K. | December 2nd, 2009

      I googled “Gene McNeally”. The guy is like one of those guys standing on the street corner “Hey Buddy, do you want to buy a watch?” He looks like a born crook. There’s something shifty and evil in those eyes. I wonder if he’s ever done time.

      He reminds of the type of guy who keeps a barn to bury the bodies in. A real weirdo. And who are all those other McNeallys in the photos? Don’t tell me Gene was allowed to breed? C’mon, you don’t mess with nature by allowing that.

2185. Comment by Joe Calles | December 2nd, 2009

      I am pissed….I just spent 1000 credits trying to win a few credit cards, and some GroobLi expert (Gene?) knocked me out at the last second.

      It is bullshit!

      800 dollars out the window!

2186. Comment by Eurasia | December 2nd, 2009

      Joe is telling lies. Forget where money comes from and goes, just get into droobli and make money. Nothing wrong with that. every company has something they don’t tell the full story about. Droobli is no different. What the big deal? We can all make money with cash flowing from all shoppers. Droobli is great. I don’t care who loses money I just want to be one of the winners. How is that wrong?

2187. Comment by beavis | December 2nd, 2009

      Eurasia,

      You are absolutely right and all of these Droobli naysayers are dead wrong. Now, about buying my jack-a-lope. . .

2188. Comment by kees | December 3rd, 2009

      Droobli’s “crazy fun”:

      -3% saved at Droobli’s second “Daily Christmas Auction Surprise” that ended December 2nd, 2009:

      “Value: $72.00″
      “Sold for: $73.50″

      read it all at:
      http://droobli-unofficial.blogspot.com/2009/12/drooblis-crazy-fun.html

2189. Comment by beavis | December 3rd, 2009

      Those crazy Europeans; drinking and making up auction numbers

2190. Comment by Eugene | December 3rd, 2009

      Clearly, Droobli uses a different definition of “fun” than I do

2191. Comment by Steven B | December 3rd, 2009

      Beavis & Eugune… are you serious about saying GroobLi Land is a scam or bullshit because its not on Google Earth… Really… I though you were smarter than this.

      Let me recap for everybody; comments 2175, 2176, and 2179. You make stupid claims about GroobLi Land being bullshit because its not visable on google earth.

      Yes, Google Earth acquires the best imagery available, but most of the images are approximately one to three years old.

      So no shit, its not going to be seen on Google Earth because GroobLi Land is in its first stage of development. Think before you speak Idiots….

2192. Comment by Eugene | December 3rd, 2009

      Steven B has clearly never heard of an advanced philosophical concept known as a “joke”.

      Look here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke) for more details.

      I stand by my statement that Droobli land will open for business shortly after the Emerald City time share condos do.

2193. Comment by beavis | December 3rd, 2009

      Steven B said:

      “You make stupid claims about GroobLi Land being bullshit because its not visible on google earth.”

      The first stages include clearing the ground and that isn’t happening (unless you believe the story about the giant moles building it underground). Oh, I’m sorry, my mistake; the first stages at Droobli for anything is to hype the shit out of it, embellish the plan beyond any reasonable belief and then, finally, go to the later sages which are to deliver it sometime, maybe, but not quite as promised (Cinch, shopping portal, the launch in China, etc.). So yes, it is in the first stages and cannot be seen by Google Earth because it only exits in Bobby Jensen’s mind. Have you purchased your Gold Level package yet?

2194. Comment by beavis | December 4th, 2009

      Are you ready for the next Droobli promise gone fail? Bet you all forgot about the Droobli Academy that was to launch September of 2009 with the infamous Dr. King at the forefront. Well, it didn’t occur; it just quietly faded away (kind of like your sign up fees for all you Gold Level maroons).

2195. Comment by The Answer | December 5th, 2009

      Droobli is alive and well, thank you very much. The are 40 million Business Associates worldwide and more than 300 million customers in over 200 countries. Basically almost all Internet online shopping is controlled by Droobli. Droobli factories are tooling up right now. The Droobli brand will be the world’s biggest brand by 2012. Get a few free credits and give it a try. Fast, fun and money-saving. That’s the Droobli investment plan. Can you afford not to join?

2196. Comment by beavis | December 5th, 2009

      So, we should all embrace our new Droobli masters? It appears we have no choice. With the BA’s replicating daily there really is no choice. We should all hurry and buy Droobli tokens before our currencies become worthless. All hail Droobli!

2197. Comment by Gene McNeally Fan Club | December 5th, 2009

      Big Gene from Omaha has got Bill Gates looking over his shoulder. This guy sells everything on the Internet. Need a cancer-curing mushroom? See Gene McNeally. Need a cheap flight to Mexico? See Gene McNeally. Need a gigolo? See Gene McNeally? Need female viagra? See Gene McNeally. Need a few Droobli credits? See Gene McNeally. Need info about Ellen G. White? See Gene McNeally. Need a few Bible quotes to make you feel less guilty about being so greedy? See Gene McNeally.

2198. Comment by beavis | December 5th, 2009

      ouch. . .

2199. Comment by Nikos | December 6th, 2009

      Keep on truckin’.

2200. Comment by Charlie | December 6th, 2009

      It’s clear I hate Beavis but I do have to admit Droobli was a disaster here in Hawaii and I do speak for the entire State, I ended up paying the $800 back to the few people I recruited just out of guilt, There’s 1,400,000 people in Hawaii and not one person even slightly interested in hearing anything about Droobli.

2201. Comment by beavis | December 6th, 2009

      At least I didn’t try to scam you, Charlie, like the purveyors of Droobli. All kidding aside, we all make mistakes. It takes a big man to own up to his mistakes and take responsibility; which is what you did. Your former associates should take notice of your example.

2202. Comment by Dave the Social Worker | December 6th, 2009

      Charlie, why do you hate Beavis? He’s sarcastic but so what? He was right about the dubious Droobli, wasn’t he? You came here initially defending Droobli. Even offering a free air trip to Beavis to go to Maui. He, like most of us here, thought you were some kind of aggressive gay guy.

      So Droobli has failed in Hawaii? To Gene McNeally that means Droobli was an incredible success and 50% of Hawaiians have signed up. What I’m saying is that the evil drooblidiots never tell the truth. They lie because they reason they’re protecting their investment.

      By the way, do you need any cancer curing mushrooms? Gene’s a locker full of ‘em.

2203. Comment by T. J. | December 6th, 2009

      Gene’s probably visiting cancer wards trying to sell his worthless chaga mushrooms to victims who’ll grasp at any chance to hang onto their lives. He’ll probably say “They were going to die anyway. At least I’ve given them some hope”.

      The Genes of this world are just animals and don’t deserve to live in normal human company. He’s an evil man. Imagine making a profit off of cancer victims.

2204. Comment by kees | December 7th, 2009

      Sorry to hear about your loss, Charlie…

      Btw, Droobli has announced some new big “launches” for 2010 to its BA’s:

      # Droobli banking system, with its own virtual currency, and Droobli debit & credit cards

      # launch of Droobli commercials on the european “SBS Radio” (a fringe broadcaster, mainly active in scandinavia, romania and greece)

      # launch of Droobli commercials on “one of the largest TV groups” in europe

      # Droobli made some kind of “Partner” deal with a few “major european magazines” and will get featured articles starting in January (also similar deals seem to be in the making for North America)

      # Droobli financial data to be unveiled in Feb 2010

      # Extended/ongoing extra financial bonusses programs for BAs who lure in more new BAs

      # launch of AU/NZ/World Droobli Global Auctions

      # Cinch software available for all BAs

      Exiting times ahead

2205. Comment by kees | December 7th, 2009

      No word though on the vanished EU shopping portal (the online shopping portals being Drooblis alleged “end goal” that will transform Droobli into the “Google of global online shopping”) , and neither any mention of plans to do something about the outrageous shipping costs if you happen to live in Mexico or in any other european country than Germany…

2206. Comment by kees | December 7th, 2009

      Funny BIG talk by Jason Switzer & Co.

      At their site “socialmlmhomebusiness.com” they claim:

      ——————————————–
      “Tom Rozof and Jason Switzer are the co-owners of Social Marketing Technologies LLC. Together they have taken their vast experience in Internet science and applied it to the new dynamics of social marketing. Social media is already transforming the entire marketing industry. Tom and Jason are at the forefront of this revolution and will use this expertise to guide our GroobLi team to maximum success”

      “We are the most sophisticated and experienced GroobLi marketing team in the USA with more resources, custom software, marketing tools and intense training options than any GroobLi team on the market today…and we intend to keep it that way”

      “And just think, you are in on the ground floor!”

      “As our business name implies, Social Marketing Technologies also provides the best social marketing training on the net. We know how to build a FOLLOWING of raving fan who will want to follow you into you’re GroobLi success”

      “Our goal is nothing less than becoming THE premiere Droobli team in the world…and we are well on our way”

      “Get your GroobLi leads at h t t p :/ / smtleads.com”

      ——————————————–

      They also maintain the “thedroobliblog.com” site that spouts all the usual Droobli hype.

      So how are the sites of these “sophisticated marketing experts” performing?

      Well, for starters google-chrome and mozilla-firefox give a big red malware-warning for “smtleads.com”.

      And when you enter “smtleads.com”, “socialmlmhomebusiness.com” or “thedroobliblog.com” into Alexa or Compete or Quantcast, all these sites barely register, if at all.

      “And just think, you are in on the ground floor!”
      … just like the Droobli “ambassadors” were in 2003?

      “We know how to build a FOLLOWING of raving fan who will want to follow you into you’re GroobLi success”

      Yeah right… I fear their “expertise” in social marketing and “internet science” is comparable to their combined knowledge of grammar …

2207. Comment by kees | December 7th, 2009

      note: as a ‘dutchy’ I know my knowledge of english grammar & spelling isn’t always 100% correct either, but I have admitted this already in my very first post (944) here :-p

2208. Comment by Eugene | December 7th, 2009

      Kees — For a second (or third?) language, you’re doing fine (and better than some who speak/write English as their *first* language. Keep up the good work.

      And to Charlie — Like Beavis, I thank you for your honesty.

2209. Comment by kees | December 7th, 2009

      Thanks Eugene

      Btw, here’s another strange Droobli spin, probably dating from somewhere in 2008 prior or during the Oct 2008 USA launch, and once undoubtedly supported on countless of Droobli BA sites, but now still only to be found on a dozen or so:

      It’s this claim (google it):
      “In 2008 GroobLi opened a support and translation office in Dubai, UAE. The office today supports more than one million customers within two continents”

      Never heard of this mysterious ‘translation office in Dubai’ again more recently, have we?

      Or maybe it’s referring to Mr. Jensen’s villa on the Palm Jumeirah island and the total number of hits on the Droobli.com sites in the past 6.5 years…?

2210. Comment by kees | December 7th, 2009

      Another Droobli BA having a hard time doing any reality checks:

      on one and the same page he writes:

      “GroobLi Reverse Auctions already has over 300 million customers in the US and Europe alone!”

      “Fact: * This is already live in Europs and the USA with over 1.24 million customers.”

      source:
      http://www.drooblibusinessinfo.com/reverse_auctions.html

      this is the same guy who I referred to in my comment 1990 and my blogpost:
      “Will this post cost me US$ 100,000?”
      http://droobli-unofficial.blogspot.com/2009/11/will-this-post-cost-me-us-100000.html

      ( he has some rather restrictive “Terms of Use” for his website… I guess *this* post will cost me another $100,000 )

2211. Comment by beavis | December 7th, 2009

      kees said:

      “Fact: * This is already live in Europs and the USA with over 1.24 million customers.”

      For 1.24 million of them they sure don’t buy much

      Oh, crap! I quoted you quoting them. Will this cost me $100,000, too?

2212. Comment by No keys | December 8th, 2009

      There is no “kees”. You guys are making all this up. Droobli is unstoppable. I know that more than 1 billion people shop at Droobli online each month. The average Business Associate makes more than $10 000 a week. Those who don’t are just the idiots who have no idea about networking and running a social business. Droobli is going to be huge and you’d be wise to “get on board”.

2213. Comment by kees | December 8th, 2009

      Beavis said:
      “Oh, crap! I quoted you quoting them. Will this cost me $100,000, too?”

      Well, I reckon he’ll give us a HUGE discount since we both quoted the same thing & Droobli is all about saving money, no?

2214. Comment by david | December 8th, 2009

      Hi Guys,
      I thought i would splash out a little cash and buy credits.

      The wife wants a camera for christmas, so i checked all the prices using my 80cents to look credits and found no camera under a 13% reduction and when taking into account the postage cost, i was no better off.

      day 2 , clicked on all the same cameras at 80c a peep again guess what, prices didn,t change more than 3 %.

      by now i have spent 50 dollars and no camera .

      As i am in France , i tried youbid.fr 50cents a peep , clicked on xbox to bid my name came up, but not at the most recent bidder, so i clicked again , didn,t go to the top , waited and clicked again , anyway clicking spending .50cents each time , i could not get or stay at the top, even when i clicked 3 or 4 times, the same name stayed at the top !!! spent my 10 euro and no product again.

      Thats my experience and will not be bidding or spending anymore money, as it just proved to je that a product will not go below say 15 to 20% on droobli .

      cheers
      Dave

2215. Comment by kees | December 8th, 2009

      Hi David, that’s interesting what you say about spending credits on Droobli and not seeing the price drop much over the course of 1 or 2 days…

      Recently I registered on the EU site, and I’ve been collecting a few dozens of free credits from various Droobli BAs around the world who advertise offering them, and just started to use the credits for a few days now to take a peek here and there. (which seems strange in itself, being able to redeem credit vouchers from various BAs on my one-and-the-same registered user name… what if I become a ‘real’ (money-spending) customer? Will all these different BAs get a commission from my spendings? )

      My experience is the same as yours: nowhere did I encounter savings of more than 10%, also not after coming back to the same item the next day. And the % of savings that did apply at the time I looked was less than the shipping costs – which are ONLY kind of ‘reasonable’ for Droobli-US buyers who live in the USA or Canada, or for Droobli-EU buyers who live in Germany. For all other countries the shipping costs are high to outrageous in my opinion (see some of my earlier posts).

      Massive savings on completed Xpress auctions are often associated with a limited number of unique user-names that appear over and over again as having ONLY won items with massive savings. Very fishy….

      And this one takes the cake:

      “Travel voucher worth 2000 euros”
      http://eu.droobli.com/Travel-voucher-worth-2000-euros__5e_12748
      Sold for: 0,00€
      Value: 2.000,00€
      Successful bidder: Crunshy

      Reducing the price 20 cents per click/view – or 1 euro per 5 clicks – to downbid a 2000Euro item to zero will take 2000 x 5 = 10,000 clicks, and Droobli wants us to believe no one else during those 10,000 clicks thought it to be a bargain at a higher price than ZERO euros???

      This “Crunshy” is a lucky guy, huh?

      Especially considering the fact that he has won a few more items at 100%-saved levels:

      eu.droobli.com/Nintendo-Wii-Console__5e_13794
      eu.droobli.com/Sonos-Digital-Music-System__5e_13716
      eu.droobli.com/Samsung-SyncMaster__5e_13552
      eu.droobli.com/Games-console-Xbox-360-Elite__5e_13505

      and one at 99% saved:
      eu.droobli.com/Apple-iPhone-3GS-black__5e_13572

      But “Crunshy” is just a little guy compared to “biddingwell” on the other side of the pond, who currently has achieved about 37 sold-for-zero, 100%-saved deals:

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/Walmart-50-Gift-Certificate__5e_7168

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/25-Borders-Gift-Card__5e_7155

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/25-TGI-Fridays-Gift-Card__5e_7126

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/25-Borders-Gift-Card__5e_7112

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/25-Blockbuster-Gift-Card__5e_7113

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/MasterCard-50-Gift-Card__5e_6579

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/25-CVS-pharmacy-Gift-Card__5e_6580

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/50-AMC-Gift-card__5e_6337

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/25-CVS-pharmacy-Gift-Card__5e_6494

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/25-CVS-pharmacy-Gift-Card__5e_6501

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/25-CVS-pharmacy-Gift-Card__5e_6490

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/Walmart-50-Gift-Certificate__5e_6463

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/100-TJ-Maxx-Gift-Card__5e_6453

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/25-CVS-pharmacy-Gift-Card__5e_6479

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/Walmart-50-Gift-Certificate__5e_6460

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/25-CVS-pharmacy-Gift-Card__5e_6344

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/25-CVS-pharmacy-Gift-Card__5e_6343

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/25-CVS-pharmacy-Gift-Card__5e_6319

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/25-CVS-pharmacy-Gift-Card__5e_6346

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/25-CVS-pharmacy-Gift-Card__5e_6324

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/25-CVS-pharmacy-Gift-Card__5e_6307

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/100-Marshalls-Gift-Card__5e_6223

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/25-CVS-pharmacy-Gift-Card__5e_6306

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/25-Best-Western-Gift-Card__5e_6244

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/25-Nike-Gift-Card__5e_6231

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/25-Nike-Gift-Card__5e_6230

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/25-Nike-Gift-Card__5e_6209

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/25-Nike-Gift-Card__5e_6208

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/100-BP-Gift-Card__5e_6043

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/25-Best-Western-Gift-Card__5e_6151

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/25-Best-Western-Gift-Card__5e_6122

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/100-TJ-Maxx-Gift-Card__5e_6016

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/50-AMC-Gift-card__5e_5709

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/100-Marshalls-Gift-Card__5e_5707

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/25-Borders-Gift-Card__5e_5953

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/25-Best-Western-Gift-Card__5e_6122

      # winner: “biddingwell” 100% saved:
      us.droobli.com/100-TJ-Maxx-Gift-Card__5e_6016

      Amazing, eh?

2216. Comment by beavis | December 8th, 2009

      Why are they stopping at “0″; let it go negative. You’ll be able to make money when you buy! Think of the potential to enhance your already huge Droobli income.

2217. Comment by kees | December 8th, 2009

      Now that’s an interesting suggestion, Beavis
      Droobli could tweak its commission plans a bit, use just a tiny part of the many millions of $$$’s their BAs are receiving, to pay the customers when they are clicking & buying below zero and the site would *really* explode

2218. Comment by Eugene | December 8th, 2009

      David and Kees, thanks for the details of the reality of Droobli. It doesn’t surprise me. Nor does it surprise me that most/all of the items that go for low or zero prices seem to be won by the same small pool of bidders.

2219. Comment by Paul | December 8th, 2009

      C’mon drooblidiots – those auction results for supposed drooblidiots known as “crunshy” and “biddingwell” constitute fraud. Put your #@!#&%% spin on it any way you want! It is damn fraud and you know it. Who’s gonna call the authorities? This droobli #@%$! needs to be wound up now!!! Anyone in it is virtually a criminal. I saw all drooblidiots should be charged with deceptive trading practices!!!!

      Amazing Business Model my @#$!!!!! You drooblidiotsw should be used for fill for roadworks or airport extensions. Something useful. What a pack of losers. All of them.

2220. Comment by Kenny P. | December 8th, 2009

      Too bad Paul. Go and have a cry about it. I don’t care if it’s a fraud or not. I’m making money. If some people get ripped off, so what? The fake auction results are just to attract people. When more come I’ll make more money. so what do I care? If you don’t like it stay away from droobli. It’s your choice. Oh, and by the way, there are a million scams out there. So what if Droobli is just one more? You can make money that’s all that’s important, isn’t it? That’s business little girls.

2221. Comment by The Road Warrior | December 8th, 2009

      Putting a couple of thoughts into perspective…

      1. Gene (let’s call him Lord of the Drooblidiots – can you imagine him a technicolour coat with GroobLi flashing all over it?? haha) wants us to believe that the auctions are the “hook”, the way to get us in to the excitement of GroobLi and that massive savings are there for us all – despite a MASSIVE TORRENT of information and evidence to the contrary.

      2. Bob (let’s stick with beavis here and call him the Sheep) announces there are a percentage of BA’s out there who are too silly even for GroobLi and are dumping credits – and that is why there are so many auctions “won” by the same person for $0

      So much for the “hook”

      And combine this with all the evidence supplied by Kees regarding the numbers of auctions over the past 450 days…it appears that a large percentage of auctions are being driven by BAs looking to get the hell out.

      “We’ve got a great concept, a great business plan” <— I fainted after I wrote that due to a lack of sustainable oxygen caused by hysterical laughter

      But seriously, here in Aus I’m one of the few people approached to join up (coz it’s really not a well known business despite worldwide “success”). The pitch made me sick (read any comment by Gene if you want to feel the same). 5 minutes of research said this reeked of scam. And that was before getting to this blog. And I’m glad I did…there is nothing better than getting stuck into scammers – I’m still waiting on my $350 million in winnings to be wired to my bank from a South African lottery that I never entered

      What is painfully obvious in Australia is that the fabled launch (Sep…then Oct…then Nov…now March) is just that – a fable. Meaning that ALL (read: most) money being made by BAs in Australia is through signing up others – there is no product! No-one would be silly enough to shop in the US portal and pay the stupid shipping costs (yes, I do realise what I just said – with GroobLi, “stupid” needs to be redefined).

      So no product, no real chance of a launch (see GroobLi history for that) and signing up others for the purpose of signing up others…

      And goddam it! THIS!
      No-one from GroobLi has provided a suitable solution to this problem:

      Lego Fire Station auction completed
      Value: $59.99
      Sold for: $0.25
      Saved 99%

      Apart from the obviously moronic bidder who saw this item at 50c and passed on it (Bob – was it a BA dumping credits again?), how did the price change from a cent value of 0.99 to an extension of 0.25?

      HOW???????

      It must mean that someone’s “click” did not reduce the price by the advertised 25c. It’s a small amount, but a rip-off is a rip-off. Every day. Always.

      I know we have been through this many times, but I dont want to let this one go because it is the one of the clearest mathematical examples of a scam.

      Someone from GroobLi please answer this. Please provide some evidence where it is clearly stated to the prospective “bidder” that their bid may not reduce the price by the advertised amount. I look forward to seeing it.

2222. Comment by beavis | December 8th, 2009

      The Road Warrior said:

      “Someone from GroobLi please answer this. Please provide some evidence where it is clearly stated to the prospective “bidder” that their bid may not reduce the price by the advertised amount. I look forward to seeing it.”

      Sorry, you used so many facts that you made their little sheep heads spin. They are all now watching a webinar to remind themselves why they spent over $3,000 on this “fantastic business opportunity”. Shortly, one of them will post something to the effect that you just don’t understand the business model and there is much more to come as this is just the “tip of the iceberg”. Did you know that a Droobli BA can win a million dollar bonus, a Bentley and the matching watch? See, everything is fine.

2223. Comment by The Road Warrior | December 8th, 2009

      “Did you know that a Droobli BA can win a million dollar bonus, a Bentley and the matching watch? See, everything is fine.”

      Yeah, I did see that. I’m also fascinated by DroobliLand. It is so difficult to keep a straight face when looking at that word. Let’s look at it again:

      DroobliLand

      (breathe)

      Now, I need to stay on topic. I want a proper, factual answer on the price reduction issue from a GroobLi rep. Preferably Gene and/or Bob.

      Don’t bother me with the response “you don’t understand the business model”. I don’t. I’m simply baffled by a business model that can break the base rules of mathematics.

      Do this whole blog (over 2222 posts) a favour and respond just once with a factual, logical argument. Eg, a link that establishes in clear terms that when you “bid” you might NOT reduce the price by the previously stated amount of 25c.

2224. Comment by The Road Warrior | December 8th, 2009

      Remember GroobLi BA folk…it is your RESPONSIBILITY to answer questions like this.

      If you are going to sign up new sheep..er, morons…ooh, I mean people (damn it!), some may ask questions like this. Which is totally fair. Before parting with three grand for a Gold package, one would think that a rep of the company would be willing and able to answer their concerns. It’s just good business, right?

      Let’s do it like this:

      Hello, I’m new to GroobLi and like the concept (this is really hard to write). However, I noticed that the auctions promise that when I bid using my 80c credit, the price will reduce by 25c. However, I have noticed that some (many) of the completed auctions have a selling price that does not match starting price in terms of meeting that incremental price drop. I cannot find any mention in the Terms and Conditions that address this problem. Can you please help?

2225. Comment by Jeeves | December 8th, 2009

      Can Bob, Jason Switzer, Gene McNeally and all the drooblidiots be shipped off to Droobliland for good? Can we set up Droobliland like a Devil’s Island or an Alcatraz? Then we can send all the evil droobli pimps there for annoying the hell out of everyone else.

      If a drooblidiot tries to pimp droobli to me, I’m just going to start punching his face with straight jabs. I won’t stop till he’s down and bleeding. I can’t stand those kind of people.

      Can we go to Nebraska and make a citizen’s arrest on Gene McNeally? He really deserves to be locked up.

2226. Comment by kees | December 9th, 2009

      Excellent point, The Road Warrior, I was almost on the verge of forgetting this all important mathematical impossibility while focussing on all the other strange things I come across.

      Here are some recent examples of start-prices like xx.99 magically transforming into impossible sold-for prices (each click reducing the start-price 25 cents on Droobli-US and 20 cents on Droobli-EU) :

      —– Droobli US —– completed Xpress auctions —–

      LG 26LH20D LCD TV
      http://us.droobli.com/LG-26LH20D-LCD-TV__5e_6226
      Price: $335.99
      Successful bidder: Jollman
      Sold for: $16.00
      Saved 95%

      Nintendo DSi matte black
      us.droobli.com/Nintendo-DSi-matte-black__5e_7332
      Price: $169.99
      Successful bidder: Jollman
      Sold for: $17.00
      Saved 89%

      ASUS Eee PC 1005HA Laptop
      us.droobli.com/ASUS-Eee-PC-1005HA-Laptop__5e_7132
      Price: $358.99
      Successful bidder: Jollman
      Sold for: $48.50
      Saved 86%

      —– Droobli EU —– completed Xpress auctions —–

      Dyson DC29 Origin
      http://eu.droobli.com/Dyson-DC29-Origin__5e_13710
      Price: 210,99€
      Successful bidder: 2008240211710127
      Sold for: 0,00€
      Saved 100%

      Nintendo Wii remote control
      eu.droobli.com/Nintendo-Wii-remote-control__5e_13820
      Price: 27,99€
      Successful bidder: 2009282111422410
      Sold for: 25,60€
      Saved 8%

      Fattoria San Vincenzo Gift Box
      eu.droobli.com/Fattoria-San-Vincenzo-Gift-Box__5e_13707
      Price: 34,99€
      Successful bidder: 200932983113400
      Sold for: 29,00€
      Saved 17%

      =======================================

      PS.1 And what’s up with these long-number user names? I see quite a lot of these on both the EU and the US site. No normal person would choose such difficult to remember, long numbers as a user name.

      PS. 2 On the EU site we also have start-prices like xx.95 and xx.50… both of these also always end in impossible sold-for prices considering the 20cent increment for down-bidding. (see also my posts 1806, 1802 and 1800)

      PS 3. When looking at the “Completed Daily Christmas Auction Surprises” on the EU site (eu.droobli.com/xmas/completed) (these are Unique Bid auctions) I see a certain “stoestoe” won two of them? How likely would that be with “millions” of european users? Also I see winning bidders with names like “teamworker”, “globalebiz” and “drooblismartwinner” … they sound a bit too much ‘BA-like’ in my ears

      PS 4. This “stoestoe” was not only lucky enough to win 2 “Daily Christmas Auction Surprises”, he also recently won 2 Xpress auctions with 100% saved (with apparently no one willing to buy these gadgets for even a dime):

      Iomega Prestige External Hard Drive 1TB
      eu.droobli.com/Iomega-Prestige-External-Hard-Drive-1TB__5e_13783
      Price: 77,99€
      Successful bidder: stoestoe
      Sold for: 0,00€
      Saved 100%

      Sandisk Cruzer Contour USB Stick
      eu.droobli.com/Sandisk-Cruzer-Contour-USB-Stick__5e_13770
      Price: 85,50€
      Successful bidder: stoestoe
      Sold for: 0,00€
      Saved 100%

      (and look at the impossible start/sold-for price combinations again)

      At Droobli’s everything IS possible, it seems …

      Droobli BA’s: doesn’t this worry you?

      When Droobli unveils its financial data in Feb 2010 (as they have announced) you can be sure the serious financial media will have a closer look at Droobli, and they WILL find these inconsistencies for themselves as well, whether or not through this blog….

      .

      For now, Droobli Sales Director John Cini may be in a celebrative mood:
      —————————-
      (antipaper.wordpress.com, Nov 25)
      “If you google “GroobLi,” you’ll see the libelous spinfactor site has been knocked down to the eighth spot. Since the day I enrolled 11 months ago, that nasty, anti-business site has been sitting in the second spot. So this is cause for celebration.

      GroobLi is committed to honest, ethical business practices, is compliant with federal and state laws, and is now a publicly-traded company, in a sincere effort to show their commitment to building a long-term business. Can’t ask for much more than that.”
      —————————-

      but he might have some less “cause for celebration” soon…

2227. Comment by kees | December 9th, 2009

      Breaking News:

      Over at “siteanalytics.compete.com” the Nov 2009 “Unique Visitors” numbers are in. Here’s a gif showing the numbers for us.droobli.com / eu.droobli.com / drooblinetwork.com:
      http://i46.tinypic.com/2zscs90.jpg

      Droobli EU seems to be really terminal now, but we do see a slight uptick at Droobli US for November during the Australia/New Zealand “launch”.
      Drooblinetwork.com however is down for November.

      (compare to my previous reports on Unique Visitor numbers in posts 2085 and 2087)

2228. Comment by The Road Warrior | December 9th, 2009

      You know what, kees? Your examples above for the US site in post 2226 actually serve 2 purposes – not sure if you chose these examples on purpose but the mathematical anomaly is one thing and the successful bidder is the next. They are all the same – someone named Jollman.

      This guy (girl?) managed to buy and LCD TV, a Nintendo DS and an ASUS laptop worth a combined advertised total of $864.97 for $81.50 (plus whatever for shipping). Is this dude lucky or what??

      But this is nowhere near the fantastic, god-like luck that the Tyler family have!

      Ok, to sum up…we have:

      1. Jollman “winning” 3 incredible auctions

      2. Continued craziness in the “bidding” where the LCD TV at one stage was $16.25 yet someone thought that was too expensive (yes, I really, really want to spend more time on that topic too – especially for the auctions “won” at $0)

      3. Last but not least, the mathematical anomaly in the price drop

      Gene?
      Bob?
      Anyone GroobLi?

      Help me out. Help us all out. Remember, you have people’s money. You owe them an explanation.

      The question is simple: Where does it state that that kind of price reduction is possible?

2229. Comment by kees | December 9th, 2009

      The Road Warrior: yes, I took those “Jollman” auctions on purpose for those 2 reasons, it’s very easy to find anomalous things in the completed auctions pages

      Btw, in case you haven’t seen it yet, I listed a few hundred of those “100% saved” auctions here:
      http://droobli-unofficial.blogspot.com/2009/11/drooblis-unlikely-100percentsaved-auctions.html

      and, referring to my ‘PS.1′ in comment 2226:
      “PS.1 And what’s up with these long-number user names? I see quite a lot of these on both the EU and the US site. No normal person would choose such difficult to remember, long numbers as a user name”

      Here are some more examples of such strange numerical user names:
      http://droobli-unofficial.blogspot.com/2009/12/drooblis-weird-long-number-user-names.html

2230. Comment by kees | December 9th, 2009

      sorry that first link should be:
      http://droobli-unofficial.blogspot.com/2009/11/drooblis-hundreds-of-unlikely-100-saved.html

2231. Comment by kees | December 9th, 2009

      oh oh …. droobli.com seems to have some problems….

      http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
      —————————————–
      Is droobli.com down for everyone or just me?
      It’s not just you! http://droobli.com looks down from here.
      Check another site?
      —————————————–

      … too many customers checking out bargains?

2232. Comment by kees | December 9th, 2009

      for the record: it’s now 14.15 pm UK/GMT time
      let’s see how long this down time takes

      btw, it’s only us.droobli.com that seems to be down now, the eu site works for me…

2233. Comment by kees | December 9th, 2009

      Okay, no reason to panic
      it’s up again at 14.27 GMT

2234. Comment by david | December 9th, 2009

      4 days later, the Casio camera on the eu droobli site has not changed.
      one credit left , will wait another couple of days
      maybe we,ll have a couple of bids from now to then

      Dave

2235. Comment by The Road Warrior | December 9th, 2009

      So while we wait for Gene/Bob/ to work on gathering evidence for their response to my question on the anomaly, there is something else worth considering.

      There are 2 points that have been established that may link up in a way that could be very embarrassing for GroobLi

      1. Bob said:

      “For those who need a fifth grade or higher explanation of a few BAs dumping credits:

      Nobody is competing with them in the bidding process. They clicked it down as fast as they could at 3 in the morning, crossing their fingers that nobody checked it when they were going through he 5 minute process”

      2. We know from VAST amounts of evidence that the auction traffic is extremely low (10-15 completed per day).

      So here’s some fun to be had. If we set a limit on the % saving (eg, if an item has a saving value of 90% or more), we consider it an example of a BA dumping their credits.

      It should then be theoretically possible to go through all (or a sample of) the completed auctions and work out what percentage of those were due to BA’s effectively trying to get out of GroobLi.

      If the percentage is high, then gee…the business model might just be in question (Like it wasn’t already, but hard proof is awesome!)

      Note that the 90% figure is EXTREMELY generous to GroobLi – it should really probably be more like 30% since the reality is with the low auction traffic we see, there simply aren’t enough genuine “clicks” out there to bring prices down far enough for real saving. So any genuine sales out there will only show a minimal saving. But anyway…

      Man…so much work to do today…but this task is just too exciting

2236. Comment by beavis | December 9th, 2009

      I’m really busy at work. I wish I had the time to pester a Federal agency to shut this sucker down. The evidence, in my humble belief, is irrefutable. We all know the Drooblidiot donkeys can’t explain the auction results (though it is fun to ask them to, anyway). I guess the point I’m getting at is I wish someone had the ambition to turn these charlatans in to the feds. I’ll try to find some time next week to get on it. It’s time to quit having fun with the pawns and actually step on this thing. It really is a scam.

2237. Comment by kees | December 10th, 2009

      For the record:

      data about many hundreds of highly unusual long-numerical *Successful Winner* names:

      todays post about Droobli-us:
      “Is Droobli using BOTS as bidders?”

      yesterdays post about Droobli-eu
      “Droobli’s weird long-number user names”

      at:
      http://droobli-unofficial.blogspot.com/

2238. Comment by Bob | December 10th, 2009

      Kees,
      I would not waste my time on the subject of the “many hundreds of highly unusual long-numerical *Successful Winner* names.”

      It is obviously a company generated temporary user name that the customer uses until they go into their profile and change it.

      I got something like that when I became a customer.

      Incremental price drops:
      When a price starts at an odd price like $199.99 for example and needs to go down in 25 cent increments, the first price drop has to always be (in this case) 24 cents to arrive at $199.75. From then on it will always be exact divisions of 25 cents until someone buys it.

      Again another wasted bullet point.

      Yes people do appear to dump credits, and it is sad to see so many people buying packages to start a business only to end up with a loss.

      We will see what happens to Droobli as far as the ability to generate far more customers than Business Associates in the coming months. Hopefully they will do what they said they are going to do and continue to add more value for the customer.

      I do see plenty of existing value as a customer, but if people don’t know about it they will not utilize it. That is the job of a GroobLi store owner. Unfortunately I see that many of them are simply eager to sign up associates for the front end money, and are quickly out of business.

      Partner programs seem to be doing much better than individual GroobLi associates sites do. It is a great way to help a non profit, and generate an additional income stream for them.
      I believe that is the best part of the Droobli model.

      And remember:
      Most people don’t live on this site everyday.
      Happy Holidays

2239. Comment by kees | December 10th, 2009

      Hi Bob, you said:
      “I would not waste my time on the subject of the “many hundreds of highly unusual long-numerical *Successful Winner* names.”

      It is obviously a company generated temporary user name that the customer uses until they go into their profile and change it.

      I got something like that when I became a customer.”

      Well, I’ve registered under 3 different user names on both droobli-eu and droobli-us, and I always could make up my own user name without any problem, and never was given a “company generated temporary user name”.
      At least some of the user names starting with “2008″ were created in 2008 (appearing on the oldest completed auctions pages) and some of them are still active & “winning” auctions now… doesn’t sound very temporary…

      You said: “Incremental price drops:
      When a price starts at an odd price like $199.99 for example and needs to go down in 25 cent increments, the first price drop has to always be (in this case) 24 cents to arrive at $199.75. From then on it will always be exact divisions of 25 cents until someone buys it.”

      It doesn’t say so anywhere in the Terms and conditions.
      And on the EU site we also have start-prices like xx.50 and xx.95 that always go to sold-for prices that are impossible to reach with 20-cent incremental price-drops. Again nothing in the EU Terms and Conditions that says anything about 20-cent increments not always being 20-cent increments.

      “Again another wasted bullet point.”
      I would agree with you if it was explained somewhere on the site. But it isn’t, so I can’t agree with you.

      Yes, we will see if the apparent credit-dumping will stay or go away… it does seem to increase however, when compared to the older completed auctions pages – i.e. more 100%-saved results now than way earlier…

      Can you point me to some Partner program sites that you think are doing well?

      “And remember:
      Most people don’t live on this site everyday.
      Happy Holidays ”

      Thanks Bob, Happy Holidays to you as well

2240. Comment by Pyon Pyon of Morioka | December 10th, 2009

      Bob is a real jerk. He’s typical of the personality-free zone types. I love his exasperated tones as he tries to write on this site.

      So Kees was never given a company-generated user name. What does that tell you moron Bob? So why have a few people won everything in Droobli auctions? The answer is simple. Droobli stinks. It’s the typical lead balloon and sinking fast. It’s the Titanic.

      I love your next point Bob. You wrote “Yes people do appear to dump credits, and it is sad to see so many people buying packages to start a business only to end up with a loss”.

      Can we tattoo that statement onto your forehead Bob? Couldn’t they find one thing they really wanted? Your claims about Droobli’s global portal are a sham. A number of Droobli Business Associates can’t find one thing to buy but yet the have to tell other suckers about how wonderful Droobli is with all the products. People can only lie to themselves so much.

      I love your next point – “We will see what happens to Droobli as far as the ability to generate far more customers than Business Associates in the coming months”

      This is classic Droobli. “The coming months” or “the Coming years”. How long will BAs wait? Every few months Droobli bleats “Wait a few more months and then you’ll see the big money roll in”.

      Bob, my advice to you is to start selling snake oil like Gene McNeally. The guy has a number of net-based businesses as a hedge against droobli’s failure. Gene McNeally didn’t become a billionaire by putting all his eggs in one basket. Study him and grow. Basically he’s my guru.

2241. Comment by diablosdia | December 10th, 2009

      SIMPLE LOGIC:

      Those people positive about Droobli have something to gain – they are the ones who have “invested” in this project and hope to get their money back.
      Those people who are negative have nothing to gain – they just want to help other idiots from wasting their money.
      I am neutral I think you’re all idiots but it is clear that Droobli is a rip off.

2242. Comment by beavis | December 10th, 2009

      You’re not “neutral”; just “neutered”.

2243. Comment by Chan Marshall | December 11th, 2009

      You can make a million dollars from Droobli. I said you “can” make a million dollars.

2244. Comment by Bobby Bloewdly | December 11th, 2009

      Here is a some dDroobli spin.

      WHAT IS GROOBLI – Background information on the business.

      Droobli Is massive in all of Europe, USA, Canada and Mexico and has just launched in Australia and New Zealand on 4th Novemer 2009.

      There are a number of ways to make money with Droobli and the biggest one is to get paid for growing your customer base. All you need to do is to introduce customers to Droobli and you will receive commissions for the lifetime of that customer.

      Customers love Droobli and history shows that every customer you join, that customer will tell and introduce five friends every two months. All of these customers become you customers, your customer base spreads virally.

      So, if all you can do is sit in front of the computer and email gift vouchers to your contacts, then you WILL make good money with Droobli.

      Are droobli people just idiots, or what?

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2246. Comment by 1293875609874657837659 | December 12th, 2009

      Hey Bob

      Totally agree with your explanation about Droobli shortening the first bid to round it out. My question is WHY? Why would they do this? Why would they find it necessary? What benefit is there? Or is this yet again Droobli spin to explain the unexplainable? Please answer Bob.
      Gene don’t even try, any credibility you may have had flew out the window the minute you opened your mouth. You’re a fool!

2247. Comment by Detective Jane | December 12th, 2009

      Whatever happened to Gene McNeally, Nebraska’s biggest jerk? I was reading about his educational history. It looks like he went back to junior college late in life. It’s this kind of uneducated fool that Droobli preys on. And, hey, there are a lot of Genes out there. Remember, almost 50% of people are below average.

      But, in a sense, he’s an over-achiever. He’s an Internet billionaire by his own admission. Every woman wants to make love to him, every man wants to be him. He’s a classic.

2248. Comment by The Road Warrior | December 13th, 2009

      Bob

      Appreciate the answer you gave to kees. Be nice if you could address me too.

      However, as usual, getting an actual answer out of a GroobLi representative is like trying to pick up a turd by the clean end.

      The question I asked you to answer was “where does it state that that kind of price reduction is possible”

      I would like you, as a representative of the company you endorse, to provide a clear link to the relevant terms and conditions section so this issue can be resolved.

      Surely it can’t be that hard

2249. Comment by The Road Warrior | December 13th, 2009

      The reason I’m pushing so hard for an answer on this is because there is an clear element of unfairness here. If, as you state, the first click reduces the price to the desired xx.25c increment, then that first person’s 80c click is not on par with the rest of the population – ie, someone out there spent their 80c and didn’t get the same deal as everyone else gets.

      I realise we are talking mere cents here. But according to GroobLi, they are apparently going to be pretty massive (bigger than eBay perhaps?). With that many customers bidding themselves silly, it’s no longer cents, is it?

      Just provide the link. End this issue. Make it clear to all GroobLi bidders that nothing dodgy is happening (at least, not with this issue).

2250. Comment by Martin | December 13th, 2009

      With Kees really getting up a head of steam it’s about time that this was re-mentioned…

      Want to get your Droobli money back?

      Are you in Australia or NZ?

      You can find the step-by-step how-to at comment 1710 by Only Facts (search “Fair Trading” from the top – it’s quicker.)

      At least one comment on here says they followed the advice and successfully got their money back.

      Thanks Only Facts. I’d sure like to have a roundtable with you, beavis, kees and aaglescout (I’ll skip the beer myself.) That would be an interesting night.

      Keep up the great investigative work!

2251. Comment by Detective Jane | December 13th, 2009

      I think Martin is being ironic and is one of the bad guys. I think he may be a drooblidiot. Careful everyone. This is not a time to be wearing your hearts on your sleeve. I kind miss Gene McNeally. Google him everyone. Interesting read.

2252. Comment by Janet | December 13th, 2009

      How lovely it must be to live in your world of paranoia. Get out much?

2253. Comment by Martin | December 13th, 2009

      Sorry Detective Jane – and Janet I think you were defending me, and if so thanks.

      I can see now what I wrote could have seemed ironic. Wasn’t meant to be. Read 1710 and you’ll see this is all serious. Only Facts seems like a great guy, and I’ll be down his neck of the woods soon enough.

      There is another good thread at whirlpool.net.au

      http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1278895&p=6

      I’ve made sure to mention Other Facts 1710 comment there too.

      It’s one thing to tell people there is a problem. It’s even better if you can show them how to solve it (and build up a groundswell for some Govt Department to take a look at this sooner rather than later.)

      Oh, and these links should be good for a bit of Google SEO juice too.

2254. Comment by Detective Jane | December 13th, 2009

      Hey Martin is famous US TV personality Willard Scott. The “your neck of the woods” phrase gave it away”. There are too many hillbillies. Hey, did you know that more than 90% of the Jerry Springer show was faked?

2255. Comment by beavis | December 13th, 2009

      Detective Jane said:

      “Hey, did you know that more than 90% of the Jerry Springer show was faked?”

      I’m so disillusioned. Next you’ll tell me Judge Judy is rigged, too. Have you no sensitivity?

2256. Comment by Bob | December 13th, 2009

      Road Warrior,
      To my knowledge it does not say it anywhere. I simply listened to the audio, and made the deduction. It did not seem like a big deal to me.

      My advise for you is to send in a ticket (query) to support. Look for support at the bottom of the page.

      I do not represent GroobLi Corporate. I simply became a customer some months ago, then bought a package mostly because I liked the partner program. Might have been a good decision, might not have. Only time will tell.

      Still looks good from that angle. I think there is some pretty good value there. You must look at the site as a whole, and the concept of branding the site for any company.

2257. Comment by beavis | December 13th, 2009

      Bob the Sheep said:

      “You must look at the site as a whole, and the concept of branding the site for any company.”

      Huh? I can get my own Drooblidiot site and brand it with my own company name? I guess they are selling off the remaining assets before they skip off to Droobliland (you do known that is where the money is heading to, right Bob?). Just think, you visionary BA’s could have been huge successes if it wasn’t for the fact that NONE OF IT IS TRUE. What a bunch of maroons.

2258. Comment by Jeeves | December 14th, 2009

      Bob, you are no longer in Droobli, you lying foreskin!!! You said you’d pull out of Droobli when the auctions were shown to be suspect. Numerous posts on this site have shown that. Don’t be a losing moron by reneging on your promise. You are no longer in Droobli because of its suspect auctions, promotions, promises, etc.

      If you are still in Droobli, you are a complete lying creep. We don’t want to hear anymore about the droobli scam. Just go away. You’re as creepy as that scary man Gene McNeally. I called his number. His voice gives me the creeps.

2259. Comment by kees | December 14th, 2009

      More *possibly* dodgy findings, this time on the completed – very special, one of a kind – “Daily Christmas Auction Surprises” both on the US and EU sites.

      1. US: see url “us.droobli.com/xmas/completed”
      from the 12 winners (up till now), 4 coincidentily have the same names as some top Droobli BAs or Droobli BA-teams:

      # successful bidder “Peter Riggio” just happens to have the same name as a Droobli Sales Director (teachmedroobli.com)

      # succesful bidder “DJ Doubler” just happens to have the same name as a BA team (www.yourdworld.com)

      # succesful bidder “team21″ just happens to have the same name as an MLM-team from MLM-er/Droobli BA Ted Burke (google droobli+team21)

      # successful bidder “jgulla7″ just happens to have a very similar name to Droobli “Sales Trainer” Jonathan Gulla (askdroobli.com/resource.html, see “Jonathan Gulla & Pete Riggio – GroobLi Partner Program Training 4-30-09″ under “Exlusive Training materials”)

      —————————-

      2. EU: see url “eu.droobli.com/xmas/completed”
      among the alleged “millions” of European Droobli customers, and among the 12 (so far) completed EU Xmas auctions:

      # successful bidder “stoestoe” managed to win 3 (or 25%, up till now) of the “Daily Christmas Auction Surprises”

      # successful bidder “teamworker” managed to win 3 (or 25%, up till now) of the “Daily Christmas Auction Surprises”

2260. Comment by kees | December 14th, 2009

      Referring to my comment 2226, PS.3 and PS.4 where I already briefly mentioned “stoestoe”:

      this “stoestoe” is quite active on Droobli-EU and very “lucky”, it seems.
      Here are some of his ADDITIONAL winnings:

      eu.droobli.com/MasterCard-US500-Gift-Card__3e_13796
      Successful bidder: stoestoe
      saved 99%

      eu.droobli.com/Iomega-Prestige-External-Hard-Drive-1TB__5e_13783
      Successful bidder: stoestoe
      saved 100%

      eu.droobli.com/Sandisk-Cruzer-Contour-USB-Stick__5e_13770
      Successful bidder: stoestoe
      saved 100%

      eu.droobli.com/Sony-KDL-52EX1B-LCD__3e_13757
      Successful bidder: stoestoe
      saved 90%

      eu.droobli.com/Apple-iMac-MB950D-A__3e_13621
      Successful bidder: stoestoe
      saved 98%

      eu.droobli.com/Sony-Handycam-HDR-CX520VE__3e_13597
      Successful bidder: stoestoe
      saved 94%

      eu.droobli.com/Backstreet-Boys-VIP-Ticket-Auction__3e_13493
      Successful bidder: stoestoe
      saved 98%

      eu.droobli.com/Apple-iMac-MB418D-A-24-Inches__3e_13325
      Successful bidder: stoestoe
      saved 98%

      eu.droobli.com/Apple-iPod-shuffle-3G-black__3e_13121
      Successful bidder: stoestoe
      saved 93%

      eu.droobli.com/Sony-PlayStation-3-80GB-GTA__3e_13098
      Successful bidder: stoestoe
      saved 99%

      eu.droobli.com/Samsung-X360-Notebook__3e_13058
      Successful bidder: stoestoe
      saved 98%

      eu.droobli.com/Nintendo-DSi__3e_13057
      Successful bidder: stoestoe
      saved 98%

      eu.droobli.com/LEGO-City-Police-Station__5e_12965
      Successful bidder: stoestoe
      saved 100%

      eu.droobli.com/Dyson-DC-20__5e_12820
      Successful bidder: stoestoe
      saved 99%

      eu.droobli.com/Nikon-Coolpix-S630-red__5e_12763
      Successful bidder: stoestoe
      saved 100%

2261. Comment by kees | December 14th, 2009

      From the site of Droobli Sales Director *Peter Riggio* (teachmedroobli.com):

      —————————–
      “Hello! Allow us to introduce ourselves.
      We are Peter Riggio, Sales Director for Droobli in the U.S. and [...]”

      “We have both been GroobLi Business Associates since before the site launched in the U.S. [...]”

      “P.S. Peter really loves when people get incredible deals. He himself won a Harley Davidson from the site [...]”
      —————————–

      the auction url of the Harley Davidson won by Peter Riggio is:
      us.droobli.com/Harley-Davidson-2009-FLHX-Street-Glide__3e_1337

      notice this is the exact same user name as one of the “Daily Christmas Auction Surprises” winners mentioned in my comment 2259.

      So here we have a Droobli Sales Director (and involved as BA in Droobli even before the US site launched) who is winning some pretty special Droobli auctions…. and if you search in the completed auctions sections you’ll see he is quite succesful in winning many more auctions….

      Can you say “i-n-c-e-s-t”?

2262. Comment by Janet | December 14th, 2009

      LOL @Beavis and sensitivity.

      Whatever, dude.

2263. Comment by kees | December 14th, 2009

      Btw, isn’t it simply amazing how 3 other “fun” auction sites like Bidcactus, Swoopo and Quibids are kind of (virally) exploding as compared to droobli (which is the oldest of the 4) – and even a “boring” regular auction site like Bonanzle (online since june 2008) is leaving droobli royally biting the dust:

      screenshot of Compete numbers (monthly unique visitors):
      http://i47.tinypic.com/2lthtno.jpg

      Nov 09 numbers:
      # bidcatus: 788,497
      # bonanzle: 748,658
      # swoopo: 560,871
      # quibids: 320,998
      # droobli: 56,093

      

2264. Comment by Jacobs | December 14th, 2009

      That’s it for me. I’m leaving Droobli. with those numbers and all the promotion and organizational setup Droobli has had, it’s obvious it isn’t working. I’m very disappointed. I’ll never make the kind of money promised by the guy who got me involved (“more than $10,000 a week). I quit. I can’t take it anymore. I want to warn everyone else. Get out or stay out of Droobli. It’s absolute garbage.

2265. Comment by Only Facts | December 14th, 2009

      Morning and a happy season to all.

      Bob said;

      “To my knowledge it does not say it anywhere. I simply listened to the audio, and made the deduction. It did not seem like a big deal to me.”

      Your right Bob that it doesn’t say it anywhere, in fact it says the exact opposite. Bids drop by 25c. I as well would like to know why it is necessary, whats the point and or benefit. There seems to be none, so why do it? Like you Bob we make deductions as well. Not from audio or video presentations that are so vague you could deduct anything you wish, but from facts supplied by Droobli itself or other independent sources. Now if the first bid of a product decreased less then 25c simply to round out the figure, it would not be such a big thing, but again why do it????? If however these bids are pre programmed and electronically generated to end at a certain price, it is a big problem. This combined with the numerous individual numbered ID’s winning so many different auctions and no one being able to be present at these auctions whether it be a regulatory agency or individual. One may come to the conclusion that something is rotten. Or at least it needs further investigation.

      Bob said

      “You must look at the site as a whole, and the concept…..”

      I have been trying to tell you this for months Bob. With respect look at the whole not just the part you find morally acceptable. People are loosing money here.

      Fortunately the hype seems to have died down here Australia ironically since the conference.

2266. Comment by The Road Warrior | December 14th, 2009

      Only Facts

      Regarding the hype dying down here in Australia, I really hope so. However, I know someone in GroobLi and I’m hearing the usual drivel – “just in pre-launch right now”, “ramping up”, “getting ready for the big launch” etc etc (spew).

      But there was one more thing – a TV ad that is supposed to be aired in January here in Australia. I managed to get a look at it too. Wow – what pile of dung!

      Low quality production and alarmingly sickening Drooblispeak aside, it seems genuine – Aussie accent voiceover and all. Just be interesting to see if the main networks actually air it (or it’s limited to some third rate Foxtel channel, buried at 3am).

      And Bob…..

      …

      …

      no, I can’t

      Let me regroup….next post

2267. Comment by The Road Warrior | December 14th, 2009

      Hi Bob

      “To my knowledge it does not say it anywhere. I simply listened to the audio, and made the deduction.”

      That is so concerning. Not only have you spent your own money on this without knowing or questioning aspects of the plan that make no sense, but you are selling it to others. It’s irresponsible and deceptive.

      “It did not seem like a big deal to me.”

      Unbelievable.

      “My advise for you is to send in a ticket (query) to support.”

      I think YOU should be doing that

      “Might have been a good decision, might not have. Only time will tell.”

      Hmmm…this doesn’t sound like the Bob we heard in posts way back in the 1100’s – fiercely defending GroobLi. Has some of the evidence presented had an impact perhaps?

      Remember, Bob…you once said:

      “I am planning on tremendous success, and can’t wait to get started. Payday is around the corner, but in the meantime there are many organizations who would love to make money. I have planned my action based on the real facts that I see.”

      Really? Or just the “facts” that you deduce?

      And, you wrote that on July 31st 2009 – so tell us, did payday come? Or is it a loooooooong corner?

2268. Comment by Bob | December 14th, 2009

      Yes I have made plenty of money, but GroobLi has had many delays since then, and we are still waiting to see if they come to the table with what they have promised.

      I also do not like how people hyped the business.
      At least I am honest. And I approached it without hyping anything up, simply showing organizations exactly how it worked.

      And by the way; I can’t take it anymore!
      I will send in a ticket!

      Requesting that Droobli starts out at even 25 cent increments to help the people posting on the SpinFactor sleep at night.

      Enough of that silly topic.

      What about real issues? I do see that they have a major traffic problem.

2269. Comment by beavis | December 14th, 2009

      “Major traffic problem”? It’s called failure, Bob, failure. . .

2270. Comment by Jacobs | December 15th, 2009

      You may have “made plenty of money” but it wasn’t with Droobli. You are real SOB. You’re a damn liar with no conscience. You make me sick. Since I’ve been with Droobli everyone has lied to me about everything. Droobli people are immoral liars. They will tell you anything to keep you in. I started doing it too. Now I regret it. Droobli is a sham and will collapse. The whole idea is stupid and constitutes nothing more than gambling. It is unprofessional and has only got as far as it has because people are greedy.

      I’d love to see Bobby Jensen get a life sentence in prison.

2271. Comment by beavis | December 15th, 2009

      Bob is a sheep.
      He tells sheep stories to lure other sheep.
      He, too. seeks to become the leader of sheep.
      He sells the promise of riches if other sheep will become like him.
      He leads by example not realizing that this is what the true leaders planned for him.
      He passes on the lies and deceits of those that lead him thinking he is becoming a leader.
      But when the pyramid collapses Bob will discover what he really is.
      In the end, Bob is just a sheep.

2272. Comment by kees | December 15th, 2009

      The traffic figures may be even worse than we think.

      Here’s a combined graph of Unique Audience/Unique Visitor numbers from both Nielsen and Compete for Amazon and eBay:

      Nielsen-Compete numbers for Amazon-Ebay:
      url: i48.tinypic.com/2r7u7n9.jpg

      Amazon is represented by the blue line on both graphs, eBay is represented by the pink line on the Nielsen graph and by the green line on the Compete graph.

      When we assume (and I think it’s reasonable to assume) that Nielsen data is more accurate than Compete data, we see that Compete OVER-estimates the unique traffic numbers.

      This is not good news regarding the Unique Visitor numbers for Droobli-US and Droobli-EU as provided by Compete:

      Compete numbers for Droobli EU and Droobli US:
      url: i46.tinypic.com/2zscs90.jpg

      On a more positive note: all the uncertainty about how many “millions” of customers Droobli might have, seems finally to have been solved:

      According to Droobli Sales Director John Cini:
      “GroobLi Update From John Cini: The Surge Is Now Visible!”
      December 11
      url: antipaper.wordpress.com
      ———————————————
      “SIGNS OF GROWTH
      Rarely has GroobLi given any indication that the company is experiencing dramatic growth. Wednesday’s email from Corp. said, “… our servers will be upgraded to handle the overwhelming increase of traffic to our sites.”

      On top of that, from the customer registration numbers it looks like we’re seeing significant growth, too: yesterday it seemed that there were nearly 120,000 registered North American customers, whereas from what we can tell, a month ago there were less than 100,000″
      ———————————————

      So….. Droobli-US (serving USA + Canada + Mexico + Australia + New Zealand) has a whopping 120,000 *registered* customers….

      But how about Droobli-EU? How are they fairing?
      Well, considering the fact that Droobli-US has much more auctions completing (however few that may be) on a daily basis than Droobli-EU has + considering the fact that according to the Compete Unique Visitor numbers Droobli-EU seems to be barely breathing at all (and even those low numbers seem to be over-estimated), I think it’s safe to assume that Droobli-EU has MUCH less customers (at least *active* ones) than Droobli-EU has.

      And then there is also the appearance that a fair amount of “successful bidders” on both the US and EU sites seem to be either Business Associates or possibly even “bots”? …. well… what can I say…?

      No “millions” of customers…. not even *hundreds of thousands* of customers…. and this after 5.5 years in the running since their online start-up of the first version of the “Droobli Global Trading Portal” in May 2004….

      But, still we see Twitters screaming
      ” Droobli is growing 10x faster than eBay! ”

      

2273. Comment by kees | December 15th, 2009

      note:
      of course
      “I think it’s safe to assume that Droobli-EU has MUCH less customers (at least *active* ones) ==>than Droobli-EU has”

      must be: “… than Droobli-US has”

2274. Comment by KJ101 | December 15th, 2009

      Wow, you guys are clearly upset with Droobli. Is it the “gambling” nature of their auctions, or the fact that they have chosen MLM as their go-to-market strategy that hit the nerve?

      I have a question I want the Droobli-bashers to answer. There is another auction/shopping site called “bidcactus”. It is very similar in that they sell things like gift cards for a lot less than the face value, and make a ton of money doing it. Rather than starting at the retail price and going down with every $.80 “bid” (actually a look at an option to buy at that price), bidcactus starts at zero and adds a penny (in most cases) with each bid, which costs the wannabe buyer $.75.

      There is an auction going on now for a $750.00 laptop, starting at zero and going up by one penny per bid. Obviously, once the bidding tops $10 bidcactus has paid for the laptop and every ten bucks over this they make $750 in profit. One bidder gets a good deal but all the others waste a lot of money, having to spend $.75 for each penny movement.

      Does this anger you?

      Droobli charges $.80 to bring a price down by $.25, and bidcactus charges $.75 to increase the price by $.01. Two very interesting and, yes, exciting ways to try to get a great deal. Ultimately though, what is the difference?

      The market will speak and perhaps one type of auction wins out over the other. But meanwhile, who is being ripped off? Is there a gun at someone’s head that we can’t see?

      The Droobli folks may not appreciate my help here, as bidcactus may prove a more appealing way for addicted shoppers/gamblers to spend their time and money. But I, for one, appreciate the option to consider going after some of this huge profit potential that Droobli offers. How can I get a piece of bidcactus? I can’t. Because they have gone to market with a plan that reserves these profits solely for the investors and inventors. And that’s great too- the American way.

      I don’t see anything abusive in the Droobli model. It does seem that they have had some strange anomalies in some of the early auctions. And it is quite possible that Droobli never succeeds. But buying chunks of credits in advance is optional. And they have value toward getting a great deal on something. You must buy credits in advance on bidcactus. And don’t run out in mid-auction or you might waste your investment in it.

      It IS still a free country, isn’t it? At least for a few more weeks… (but that’s another subject)

2275. Comment by Only Facts | December 15th, 2009

      KJ101

      Firstly, this is a Droobli forum so I would not expect to see to much on other dubious get rich schemes, even though at times they are touched upon. I suggest you look for forums on those. You say no one has a gun to their head. This may be true, but what is not true is the information given to perspective BA’s to lure them into this scheme. I was approached some time ago to join Droobli, and even though the thought really never entered my head, I was amazed at the obvious complete drivel I was hearing. This is when I found this site. In my day to day I am often asked advise on many varied businesses, and have been several times with Droobli. The fact that MLM’s are all and I do mean all destined to fail in one form or another is beside the fact, that Droobli simply out right lies to attract to the vulnerable and more important their money. Droobli is nothing more than a poorly, thinly discussed Pyramid scheme plain and simple. Many people have been helped on this site, and while Droobli continues with their unethical business practices, I will do all I can to tell people the truth so they can make an informed decision. Not a decision based on bells and whistles. I can only conclude that you haven’t looked at all the evidence within this site. If you had you would have seen the ludicrous excuses used by the Pro-Dubi people. These people are taking money from others with their rubbish. It would make a saint angry.

      Assuming your American I don’t believe there is any reference in your constitution stating that each citizen has the right to rip others off. Then again I could be wrong.

2276. Comment by The Road Warrior | December 15th, 2009

      KJ101

      That’s all wonderful news about bidcactus, but really, on THIS blog, who cares?

      But one point that begs a response is this:

      “One bidder gets a good deal but all the others waste a lot of money, having to spend $.75 for each penny movement.

      Does this anger you?”

      If you have read all the posts here, you would know the answer to this question

      “I don’t see anything abusive in the Droobli model”

      Really?
      It’s not concerning to you that the auctions are a proven failure and that the PRIMARY method of making money out of this plan is to sell packages to others, and so on – ie, PYRAMID

      And it’s of no concern to you that GroobLi is being run by people with a confirmed history of involvment in bankrupting other companies? Eaglescout and others provided a wealth of independent evidence to support that. Not to mention the failure and closure of GroobLi in Denmark, Spain, China…

      AND the preaching that the auctions are “just the hook – to lure you into the shopping portal”. But where is the EU shopping portal? No-one seems to want to tackle addressing THAT one.

      AAAANNNND…the mountain of evidence suggesting that the auctions are wrought with highly questionable activity.

      AAAAAAAAANNNNNDDDD….the suggestion (by GroobLi folk themselves) that BA’s are dumping credits to get out. I think it was Charlie earlier on who mentioned that not only did he exit himself, he paid back money to the people he felt he ripped off. Great model!

      “It does seem that they have had some strange anomalies in some of the early auctions”

      Wrong. There are anomolies today. Here are two:

      $50 ExxonMobil Gift Cardauction completed
      Value: $50.00
      Sold for: $0.00
      Saved 100% (ie, someone saw this at $0.25 and though it was too expensive to buy)

      Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlusauction completed
      Value: $44.99
      Sold for: $3.25 (Impossible incremental price drop – not to mention the clown that saw this at $3.50 and passed)
      Saved 92%

      “And it is quite possible that Droobli never succeeds”

      Now you’re talking!

      Fortunately the pathetic auction traffic over the past years is proving that correct.

      The sad part is that people are not doing their research and are still being drawn into coughing up cash for a gold package because of the promise of ANOTHER launch. Which will fail. Like every launch.

      Every one.

2277. Comment by Dublin..ous?? | December 15th, 2009

      well i must say that i have looked at quite a few sites and blogs and whatever the net supplies on this type of “investment” being offered here in australia (i just heard of this last week. it appeared in the daily rag under job opportunities section. (nice place to put it when unemployment is high..forget what the polls say.) I for one will not be bothering with this as i like to sleep at night knowing i didn’t help F-wits rip people off their hard(real world work)earned money…i may be out of work and job prospects for me are far and few between given that the economy is f*-ed at the moment but i prefer to know that i earned my money truthfully and honestly….(i’m in the constructuion industry)…so to all those who are “pushing” this…..get off your ass and be happy that you were given the chance to be born. don’t say that you didn’t ask to be born either as i’m sure your parents didnt ask to be given a miscreant either.
      why dont we just “ask” people to send you a dollar???i’m sure you could send them back a letter with an apology for being a debt on society….
      *above rant was for those who are blind to the fact that this scheme is designed to rip people off as it is aimed at low income or nonexistant income earners.

2278. Comment by KJ101 | December 15th, 2009

      Only Facts:

      I appreciate the reply, but I don’t think it contains only facts. I spent most of the day today researching this site and those referenced. I have no dog in this fight. You have an obvious aversion to MLM, regardless of the product or services being marketed.

      I’ve never done a MLM business and I think this manner of marketing largely deserves its bad reputation. However, I can see the logic in trying to create a buzz, leveraging social networking, to get a critical mass to make a business like this (Droobli) fly.

      You did not answer my fundamental question- do you have the same level of disgust for this other website, which is virtually the same business, except that it is not marketed by MLM? This is quite relevant to Droobli, as the seminal question of an MLM being a ripoff is whether end consumers would freely buy the product/service without the MLM pressure. People are using the bidcactus site. Are they being ripped off? They are getting a worse deal- only moving the auction to closure $.01 at a time, versus $.25 for Droobli. Plus, at Droobli, one always has the option to buy the product upon spending the bid/credit. Not true at the other.

      I don’t have any issue with bidcactus and I get that this is a forum about Droobli. I just can’t see how someone is ripped off by freely choosing to buy bid credits at Droobli, and not equally ripped off when freely choosing to buy bid credits at another “exciting” gambling-style shopping site.

      What if Droobli completely revamped their site to work exactly like bidcactus? Would it still be a rippoff because MLMers are buying up the bidpacks in bulk at a discount and then reselling them? Is bidcactus a ripoff? Why or why not?

      Fraud is illegal and rightly so. One cannot lie for profit. I can’t sell you a Rolex as a real Rolex and then ship a fake, legally. If caught, one who did this would go to jail, like Bernie Madoff. But without fraud, buyers and sellers are free to make whatever deal they want (if adults).

      The US Constitution (theoretically) protects these freedoms. Consenting adults in this country are (mostly) free to make choices and decisions that others would not. All we can hope for is the transparency to enable informed decisions. When nannies like you get elected to the US Congress and presume to know what’s best for everyone, and legislate behavior to protect us from ourselves, watch out!

      FYI our Constitution manifestly does give each citizen the right to “rip off” other citizens, when the deal is freely chosen by both sides and is only a “ripoff” in the eyes of some third-party nanny.

      To the extent Droobli lies and therefore commits fraud, you and others who can shine a light on this are doing a great service. However, you have not shown any fraud, just odd results of some auctions and a bunch of disgruntled people who thought they could get rich by merely plopping down three grand and sitting back.

      You have an intractable bias against MLM. You admit as much. You are welcome to your opinion and are free to give advice all you want. But don’t tell me you have logic on your side.

      For what it’s worth, I tend to agree that MLM is usually a scam and should be avoided. But we know the telltale signs of a pyramid scheme and indeed we have laws against these.

      Signing up with Droobli is a risk, no doubt about it, even if one works it hard. The market may not come when they have to actually buy these credits themselves. This is the critical thinking that is required. Will people spend $.80 to get an option to buy something at a price that could be very low? How many times? How many people?

      Droobli must make using their site worthwhile or they fail. It is ridiculous to think that they just want to make the initial sale of $3000 worth of credits and run a pyramid scheme on this. Now, if the site does fail, all but the very few who got in first will lose money and it will look like a pyramid. But this is surely not the goal. Bidcactus proves that there is a market for this. Between the entertainment value and the transparent wins enjoyed by many, people sure seem willing to buy bids, with 7500% leverage in favor of the website.

      If you spend $75 chasing a $200 gift card and don’t or can’t profitably buy it, have you done something so stupid you should have been protected from it by law? What if you turn around the next day and buy a $200 gift card for $20? Should you have been protected from this, too? There are winners and losers, but choosing to play the game is freedom.

2279. Comment by beavis | December 15th, 2009

      kj101,

      I’m going to give you the same advice I’ve given others just like you; buy two Gold Level packages as you will make twice as much money. In fact, the time you spent creating that last post you could have recruited a BA or two which would have translated into a huge income over the next two years (It’s going viral as we speak).

      You did say :

      “Signing up with Droobli is a risk, no doubt about it, even if one works it hard. The market may not come when they have to actually buy these credits themselves. This is the critical thinking that is required.”

      Wrong, wrong and wrong. Critical thinking is definitely a foreign concept to you and will only lead to grief and misery. Sign up, write the check and go watch a webinar; that’s what I say. And whatever you, do not, under any circumstances, read the prior posts here; facts will only confuse you and distract you from your goal to get a castle in DroobliLand. Facts bad; Drooblispeak good (say ten times before bed each night). Oh, and do me a favor; on the outside chance a few of your friends and relatives loose money in Droobli because of your new found religion, please don’t reference me or this post to them; I wouldn’t want them coming after me to break a 2×4 of in my ass (you know how people are).

2280. Comment by The Road Warrior | December 15th, 2009

      KJ101

      Since you are so caught up with getting some sort of response on the bidcactus plan vs the GroobLi plan, and since you are clearly too lazy to read the posts here, allow me to indulge you momentarily…

      1. The concept of the majority of people having to lose money in order for one person to save money is stupid. It’s not “fun” and “exciting” and “new” and “-insert moronic GroobLispeak here-”. It’s stupid. Smart people can see the transparency of that model – that the company is cleaning up from the sheer idiocy of these bidders.

      2. From what I have seen (and admittedly it’s not much) is that prices on bidcactus actually do rise by the 1c amounts specified in the terms and conditions.

      So let me ask you a question.

      You said: “Fraud is illegal and rightly so. One cannot lie for profit”

      Well, it seems with GroobLi that somewhere in the bidding process, someone’s 80c bid does not reduce the price by 25c. We don’t know who. We don’t know if it’s more than one bidder. But we know it’s happening.

      Is that fraud?

      Even if it’s 1c per auction, does that constitute fraud?

2281. Comment by beavis | December 15th, 2009

      KJ101,

      Don’t listen to The Road Warrior; this is your calling. Ignore the astronomical odds that a $200 Visa card can be bid down to zero; forget that the math on the bids doesn’t add up; pay no attention to the unsuccessful launches of past. You’ve failed all of your life and your time is now. God is giving you a second chance (this is your cue, Gene). Move blindly forward in a rabid attack to greedily grab all that is yours! Go Droobli!

      Umm. . . and remember, I don’t know you.

2282. Comment by KJ101 | December 15th, 2009

      I’m sorry. I suppose my last post WAS a bit verbose. Silly me, I thought by painstakingly laying out some logic for you to consider, we might actually have an adult and mutually productive conversation. Unfortunately, you all did not read my words nor answer my questions. You can’t seem to even figure out that I am not into Droobli- apparently, everyone who doesn’t flame them is an enemy to you.

      All you do is fall back on the same presumptuous arguments, hyperventilating with absurd ad hominem attacks. There is no reasoned thought here, no critical thinking. YOU are the blinded ones, blinded by hatred of all things MLM.

      Even if you were to stumble upon a good point, it would be hard to take you seriously. You just want to denigrate and attack, like a bunch of 14 year-old girls, thinking somehow that insults and cheap, sophomoric humor will pass for logic.

      I’m sorry I wasted my time here. My bad.

      Grow up.

2283. Comment by The Road Warrior | December 15th, 2009

      Hey KJ101 – I answered your question about my own feelings on bidcactus and people wasting money so one person can save. Did you miss it?

      And

      I asked YOU a serious question about fraud. Are you going to answer it?

2284. Comment by beavis | December 15th, 2009

      To The Road Warrior,

      KJ101 is trying to have an adult and mutually productive conversation; so please try to converse with him in a more mature manner.

      To KJ101,

      Fuck you.

2285. Comment by Only Facts | December 16th, 2009

      KJ101

      It’s quite difficult to know where to start with you. You say “I have no dog in this fight” but clearly set about to prove Droobli’s legitimacy. To answer your question in regard to Bidcatus, I know very little of this company. However from what I can tell, like Droobli, there seems to be problems with their results. I don’t think this site is as bad as Droobli and the reasons are as follows;

      Bidcatus seems to be very simple and direct. You register, buy credits to bid, if you win you pay cash for the item. Like all the other internet FUN auctions I wouldn’t go near it.

      Droobli on the other hand is anything but simple and direct. As a customer you register through a business associate or direct with Droobli. If you register through a BA a percentage of everything you spend goes back to them and the people above them in their line. If you register through Droobli direct all monies go directly to Droobli until they place you on a selling board where all BA’s have the opportunity to buy you as a customer. Once that BA buys you a percentage of that money goes to the people above them in their line.

      You either buy, or are given for free a certain amount of credits so you can SEE the price, remember you bid for free, if the price suites you, you make a bid. If the price does not suite you, you have just wasted your eighty cents and or credit. You must continually pay to SEE the price, remember you bid for free, until the price is what you are looking for. Each bid drops the price buy twenty five cents. Or maybe not. After 5ish years nobody’s quite sure on that as yet. If you win, you pay cash for the item.

      As a business associate you have the option to join at a certain level governed by price. Even though you only pay about $175 to join, you are pressured, sorry advised, to purchase a certain amount of credits so you can play the game, and more importantly offer these credits you have just paid for, for free to others you try and pressure, sorry recruit into the scheme. once you have used up all your credits you are pressured, sorry advised to buy more and give them out for free. A percentage of the monies then goes to people above you in your line. However these auctions are just a “hook” to get people interested in the shopping porthole. A shopping porthole, that for the millions of happy customers in the EU no longer exists.

      Your comment on Droobli lies and therefore commits fraud simply proves you have not read this site, or chosen to ignore it. All you mention is a few auction results. If it were a few there may not be a problem, however if you look at the stats supplied by Kee’s there’s a lot more than a few. You mention nothing about the delayed launches, nothing about the bankruptcies and denials, nothing about management previously being involved with proven scams, nothing about the exaggeration of numbers, nothing about Droobli admitting they are breaking the law in relation to auction licences etc etc.

      You also mention people paying $3000 and just sitting back and waiting for the money to roll in. Droobli promotes that you can make money while you sleep.

      It is near impossible to go through every piece of evidence gathered over 12 months in one post. You seem to miss the whole point of this site. And as far as logic is concerned, I can only assume your interpretation of logic is the same as you interpretation of the US constitution. I believe your question has, again been answered. If you wish to continue in this debate please bring something tangible to the table then I would love to debate with you. Until then then i’m sorry to say you appear just like all the BA’s who have poped in here made a lot of noise about nothing, then slinked away again.

      I also doubt Beavis made that last post, however either way Eagle Scout must start monitoring this site again.

2286. Comment by beavis | December 16th, 2009

      Only Facts said:

      “I also doubt Beavis made that last post, however either way Eagle Scout must start monitoring this site again.”

      In retrospect I probably should have chosen my words a bit more carefully, but there is something magical about telling a long-winded apparent troll what you think about the fool in two words. Also, his comparing those of us who don’t support his views to “a bunch of 14 year-old girls” does require a response and not a particularly flattering one. I think my response was simple, to the point and most importantly, spelled correctly.

2287. Comment by J.E. Trott | December 16th, 2009

      KJ101 – I don’t know what you’re asking for. You’re an idiot. You deserve Droobli. Go for it!! Make your millions !!! We’re all just jealous that you’ve found a gold mine. Go for it !!!! You’ll be in your penthouse apartment in New York controlling world finance!!! You deserve this lifestyle. Flights to Droobliland – it all makes my head swim.

      You’re amazing how you got onto this Droobli thing. You’re going to be rich !!!!!! Well done !!!!! Your father must be proud that you’ve finally found something after so much failure in your life.

2288. Comment by Only Facts | December 16th, 2009

      While I don’t agree with your methods I do understand the frustration. I wouldn’t matter about too much, I don’t think KJ101 knows where he’s coming from. The only thing clear in his post are the contradictions.

2289. Comment by kees | December 17th, 2009

      Only Facts,
      I would like to contact you and show you something interesting that I’ve found regarding a certain BA from your country…

      I will ask Eaglescout to pass my email address on to you.

      I’ll let you know if this doesn’t work …

      I could put my email address here in the open, but then (if I would get a reaction) I couldn’t be 100% certain that it is you (and not someone else reading this blog & pretending to be you).

2290. Comment by kees | December 17th, 2009

      note: I’m not referring to any Droobli BA that has been contributing here in this blog (at least not that I know of).

2291. Comment by Only Facts | December 17th, 2009

      Kees
      Look forward to it. If that does not work we may be able to work something out via your site. Unfortunatly the chances are I will know the person.

2292. Comment by Only Facts | December 17th, 2009

      Just found this in General Business Terms and Conditions for Using GroobLi UK Ltd. Online Services

      GroobLi is the provider of particular auctions with gaming elements found on this web site. They serve to regulate the contractual and operational relationship between GroobLi and the users of the auctions found on this website (hereafter referred to as “participants”).

      Notice here they actually admit the gaming aspect. Interesting.

      Actual site

      http://www.duboz.com/media/download_gallery/ub_conditions_102008_usus.pdf

2293. Comment by Only Facts | December 17th, 2009

      Believe it or not we finally have some independent press on Droobli.

      http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/business/rivers-of-gold-too-good-to-be-true-20091207-kdj7.html

      http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/business/gamblers-may-get-a-high-from-web-auctions-20091215-ku8y.html

2294. Comment by The Road Warrior | December 17th, 2009

      From the second article:

      GroobLi chairman Kent Lee Holmstoel rejected suggestions the auctions were like gambling.

      “As you probably know we are present in the USA who probably has the strictest gambling laws in the world,” he said in an email.

      “GroobLi auctions do NOT qualify for gambling as you can decide the outcome yourself buy [sic] buying the products before anybody else.

      “On Unique Bid the most successful winner apply their own strategies.”

      And this…

      Mr Holmstoel claimed brisbanetimes.com.au’s report last week contained “virtually no tangible facts at all”, despite the company being offered the chance to respond three days before the story was published.

      How typical is Kent Lee Holmstoel of EVERY Drooblidiot who has been on here?

      a) Can’t spell or seem to be able to string a coherent sentence together
      b) Rejects out of hand ANY suggestion that there is anything wrong with GroobLi – even after being presented with evidence and ample opportunity to respond.

      Also, seperate to to this, pulled this from the Consumer Affairs Victoria website regarding scam definition:

      “You are offered a business opportunity or a chance to join a group, scheme, program, or team where you need to recruit new members to make money.

      Having to recruit new members is often the sign of an illegal pyramid scheme. Pyramid selling is illegal under the pyramid selling provisions of the Fair Trading Act 1999.”

      Have asked Consumer Affairs for some advice from their end about GroobLi (even if it’s just to bring them to the attention of authorities in Victoria). Will post the results.

2295. Comment by kees | December 18th, 2009

      Only Facts, I contacted Eaglescout but haven’t heard from him yet…. have you?

      Anyway, if not – I can’t really expect the moderator(s) of this blog to act as a private messenger-service for me, so I’ve thought up a solution.
      I’ve made a new email addy just for this occasion, it’s:
      justforthisoccasion AT gmail.com

      If you would like, please send me an email there (can also be from a newly made email addy just for this occasion) , with some unique, hard-to-guess, alphanumerical “code” (anything you like) as the title/subject.

      Next, you could make a post here in which you mention the alphanumerical code that you have used as subject/title of your email message to me.
      Preferably your post here (in which you shortly mention the code) would be a somewhat longer one, in your “regular” (eloquent & logical ) style of writing so I can be “pretty sure” it is indeed you and not someone else pretending to be you. Of course you may not have ‘instant inspiration’ to write a somewhat longer post, but we’re not in a hurry here, so we can take it easy

      Does this appear reasonable to you?

      Sorry if all this sounds a bit overly complicated from my side, but at the moment I myself am not inspired enough to think of a simpler way to initiate private contact between us… and, regarding someone possibly pretending to be you: I’ve seen enough jokers & trolls in blogs and forums to expect anything

      Of course you’ll have to ask yourself the question now:
      is this really “kees” writing *this* message? Hahaha
      … errr, yeah it does get complicated now …
      But: once we have established contact I can *prove* to you (through my blog) that I am the real kees

2296. Comment by Only Facts | December 18th, 2009

      Kees

      Try 4407traser@gmail.com Not quiet eloquent but hey, its early. By the way those news articles are only the start. More to come.

2297. Comment by "Bertie" | December 18th, 2009

      Careful, I think “kees” might be a Droobli plant. He seems to know a lot about Droobli and it seems he’s trying to find out who we are. You know, all those trying to out droobli for what it is. What’s his angle? Does he work for Gene McNeally? Is he really Bob? Or is he Eaglescout? I don’t want Droobli sending assassination squads to get each of us. That’s why I use the name “Bertie”. I’m deep undercover. Get a shovel. These guys don’t want their cash cow stopped. They’ll do anything to keep it going.

      Don’t put anything past a drooblidiot. They’re dumb, uneducated and cruel. They don’t want droobli exposed. Protect yourselves everyone. Look under the car before you turn the key. (The name ‘kees’ could be a threat about this. No one is safe anywhere. Droobliland is the safest place on the planet. It doesn’t have satellite clearance.

      This goes right to the top. Go to my website and purchase a kevlar vest. It’s time to take precautions, my fearful band of revolutionaries.

2298. Comment by kees | December 19th, 2009

      2297-You’re funny, “Bertie”

      2296-Only Facts: if I contact “4407traser” my “problem” remains: how can I be sure “4407traser” = “Only Facts”?

      I’m gonna enjoy some snowy weather we’re having here now, will be back later today.

2299. Comment by Only Facts | December 19th, 2009

      Sorry Kees

      I dont know what more I can do…..

2300. Comment by Janet | December 19th, 2009

      Seems a bit harsh to criticize Kent Lee Holmstoel’s English, when he’s, uh, not a native speaker.

2301. Comment by Gerald | December 20th, 2009

      Gene McNeally has gone to ground. He’s scared his snake oil business might not be legit. Some of his websites have been taken down because so many angry people googled him and contacted him. He doesn’t like the exposure.

2302. Comment by The Road Warrior | December 20th, 2009

      Janet, uh, so what?

      He represents his beloved company to a LOT of English speakers. The least he could do if hw was going to issue a press release would be to get it right.

      But, ok, poor English doesn’t really say anything about the real issues. Which he naturally failed to address.

2303. Comment by The Road Warrior | December 20th, 2009

      hahaha…look how I spelled “he”

      what a d!ck I am

2304. Comment by 4 Micah | December 20th, 2009

      No, Road Warrior, spelling is important. Don’t waste Janet’s time with poor spelling. She’s making millions with Droobli. Imagine when Janet’s friends and family see her pull up outside their homes.

      “Quick, pretend we’re not home. Everyone on the floor. Turn the TV off”.

      So there you have another day in the life of a drooblidiot. Everyone hates drooblidiots. It is social leprosy. Would you rather be a Droobli BA or have full-blown AIDS?

2305. Comment by Jeeves | December 21st, 2009

      I think Droobli is a good thing. A guy like Bobby Jensen comes along and “acquires” the Business Associates’ money. It teaches them not to be so stupid. Droobli sounds stupid to begin with. Why would a drooblidiot become involved with it? I like the fact that Bobby Jensen gets their money. No wonder he’s rich. But he’s giving all those drooblidiots a lesson. I think Bobby Jensen should be given a medal for the business education he’s giving the drooblidiots.

      When they lose their money they realize that you can’t earn money while you sleep (of course Bill Gates can). Also, if the whole idea sounds dumb then it really is dumb. Also, when a company doesn’t advertise they have something to hide. Forcing BAs to coerce friends and family to join the crummy outfit known as droobli is just terrible. But people do it because the love money.

      Loving money makes you a slave to it.

2306. Comment by Janet | December 21st, 2009

      Right, so I’m with GroobLi now? When did that happen? FWIW, I have no intention of becoming a BA or using the site. I have a perfectly good job and I use eBay. The end.

      You could consider that I’m just winding you all up (not that it seems to take much). Sure, warn people if you think something is a scam, but wouldn’t it be better to do it like the Brisbane Times did, and not by having a frothing lunatic party here and flaming everyone who expresses anything outside your narrowly established party line?

      Ah, wait. I forgot – it’s the internet. LOL! My bad.

2307. Comment by The Road Warrior | December 21st, 2009

      There would be no desire for anyone to “flame” anybody if the GroobLi people who have tken the time to comment on this site would actually RESPOND to any one of the multitude of points/issues brought up by so many people. Have you seen the utter ridiculousness of their responses?

      Also, seems a little hypocritical for you suggest a less aggressive approach immediately after you have implied that you are winding people up yourself.

      Thanks so much for your input.

2308. Comment by beavis | December 22nd, 2009

      Janet said:

      “You could consider that I’m just winding you all up (not that it seems to take much).”

      I see; Wikipedia may be of help here:

      “In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.”

      You are a sly donkey, aren’t you?

2309. Comment by 4 Micah | December 22nd, 2009

      Who cares about the name “troll”? Trolls make the Internet interesting. Without trolls the Internet would be just an extension of the shopping mall. Viva le troll!

      Who decided to use the word troll in application to the Internet anyway? I do not acknowledge that meaning of the word.

      I prefer the word “core”. As in, “he’s a core”. According to Wackypedia a ‘core’ is “In Internet slang, a core is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.”

      I love myself.

2310. Comment by beavis | December 22nd, 2009

      You make love to yourself?

2311. Comment by Dr. Reynolds | December 23rd, 2009

      Anyone heard about the Droobli South America launch set down for early February 2010? I want to get in on the ground floor.

2312. Comment by beavis | December 23rd, 2009

      There are huge opportunities in South America. Focus on soliciting the Yanamamu tribe before anybody gets to them first. You may need to keep up a constant recruiting effort as there is an attrition issue caused by 1/3 of the male population dying because of combat related injuries (a constant problem in that region). Good luck!

2313. Comment by The man with no country | December 23rd, 2009

      I’m back and I beat the FDA rap about the chaga mushrooms. Apparently, they are perfectly safe and have no effects on the human body whatsoever. Of course, I’ll still be selling them to desperate cancer or heart patients, but hey, that’s business.

      Google me and give me a call if you want to discuss business opportunities – Droobli, the miracle mushrooms chaga, or a cheap flight, whatever. If you want it I’ve got it.

2314. Comment by Only Facts | December 23rd, 2009

      To everyone, Pro or Anti Droobli have a merry Xmas and be safe.

2315. Comment by beavis | December 23rd, 2009

      The man with no country said:

      “Google me and give me a call if you want to discuss business opportunities – Droobli, the miracle mushrooms chaga, or a cheap flight, whatever. If you want it I’ve got it.”

      I want a velociraptor; my neighbor is pissing me off.

2316. Comment by The man with no country | December 23rd, 2009

      Beavis, why don’t you just admit your licked and come and get a few credits and try this ol Droobli thang out? C’mon. What can you lose? You could become as rich as I am.

2317. Comment by beavis | December 23rd, 2009

      Once I have a velociraptor I won’t need credits. As far as you and all of your money. . . well. . . try to buy off a hungry velociraptor

2318. Comment by Mel | December 23rd, 2009

      There is a great deal to read here, both negative and positive. The bottom line is that GroobLi is network marketing. However, the site is quite unique and bargains can be had. I am a BA and I have also bought quite a few items through the shopping mall for a lot of cash-back. I have yet to run into trouble. In addition to recruiting new associates I have gained about 20+ customers who are also obtaining value, saving money and winning some auctions.

      I see the main issue is the reps who are selling this as a “get-rich-quick” scheme, or “make money while you sleep” concept. Anyone coming into this business with that attitude is headed for absolute failure and will end up writing a blog like this.

      If you come into this business fully understanding the concept of network marketing, having a strong network, and willing to put in the time, you will succeed.

      GroobLi offers a unique experience and a lot of money for those who understand the process. GroobLi is not for everyone. Personally, I look for the dynamic individuals, who will be successful. The skeptics are sure to fail.

      From what I have seen 90% of the growth of GroobLi is still ahead.

      It is a case of “Buyer beware” but not of GroobLi, of what your expectations are and of what you need to do (the time needed) to fulfill your desires.

      The model is sound. There are a lost of people, some of whom I know personally, who are making a lot of money with GroobLi, and I am on my way as well.

      It is not easy, but it is both exciting and rewarding.

2319. Comment by Mel | December 23rd, 2009

      BTW, all of the negativity spewed here are lies, half truths and exaggerations. Everything has an explanation and a reason. even the BK and the gambling comments.

2320. Comment by beavis | December 24th, 2009

      Mel,

      You’ve never been right before in your life and this time you’re wrong.

      Your quote:

      “all of the negativity spewed here are lies, half truths and exaggerations.”

      should read:

      “all of the positives spewed here are lies, half truths or exaggerations.”

      You also said:

      “From what I have seen 90% of the growth of GroobLi is still ahead.”

      If Droobli does grow tenfold, as you claim they will, that still makes it a speck in the on line marketing world (ten times dog squat is still, at most, a small mound of dog squat). I know, math isn’t your best subject otherwise you wouldn’t have signed up as a Droobli BA, but the reality is Droobli has existed since (pick a number from their constantly changing Droobli story but I go with 2003) and you will see a pattern of wild ass promises that turn into very little. And yet you donkeys continue to accept baseless projections from a company run by people you don’t personally know and a long history of getting little accomplished. Oh, wait, I’m sorry, the next “launch” should make everything right. Would you like to buy a velociraptor (I didn’t know how small they were)?

2321. Comment by Cletus McNeally | December 25th, 2009

      Dear Mel,

      Thanks for coming on here and making your crummy contribution.

      You said:

      1. “I have also bought quite a few items through the shopping mall for a lot of cash-back” Don’t lie. You have not received “a lot” of money unless you regard 50 cents as a lot of money. .

      2. “I have gained about 20+ customers who are also obtaining value, saving money and winning some auctions” Since when did these morons become your “customers”? What do you sell them? Do you get it? You’re not a big business man. You’re trying to win Daddy’s approval but you’ve failed again.

      3. “If you come into this business fully understanding the concept of network marketing, having a strong network, and willing to put in the time, you will succeed.” What do you mean by a network? Your friends and family that you brow beat with Droobli crap every time you see them? Get this Mel, You are a social leper. No one is happy when they see you turn up Mr Droobli.

      4. “GroobLi offers a unique experience and a lot of money for those who understand the process.” So just ‘understanding’ the process is enough to get a lot of money. I understand the process. It’s stupid. Now, give me my money.

      5. “Personally, I look for the dynamic individuals, who will be successful” Are you the big Droobli talent scout? No one wants to hear from you. You’re just a big loser. Leave people alone.

      6. “From what I have seen 90% of the growth of GroobLi is still ahead.

      It is a case of “Buyer beware” but not of GroobLi, of what your expectations are and of what you need to do (the time needed) to fulfill your desires.” So don’t check Droobli out before you get into it? Look Mel, Droobli’s finished. It’s over.

      7. “The model is sound. There are a lot of people, some of whom I know personally, who are making a lot of money with GroobLi, and I am on my way as well.” Meaning you’ve made nothing and a lot of people have lied to you. They haven’t made money. Droobli Europe donated $5000 to charity in 3 years. That’s all. Then they used their “charitable contributions” as a way of recruiting Christians and other socially-minded people. My local McDonald’s gives more than that away in a month. One McDonald’s outlet is bigger than Droobli Europe. Do you understand any of this? Droobli is “small potatoes” and failing everywhere.

      Mel you’re a moron. You deserve Droobli. Keep going. I like to see idiots lose their money.

2322. Comment by Gene McNeally | December 25th, 2009

      Merry Christmas all of you people. Come to my various websites. Need Droobli credits? What about ibuzzpro? Or Chaga mushrooms? Got cancer? I can heal you with chaga mushrooms!! I’m Gene and I want to be your friend. I want to tell you about Droobli or cheap flights if the Droobli thing goes belly up like it looks like. Come and see me. Google me and then ring my number. Look at my photo. I’m very cool.

2323. Comment by beavis | December 25th, 2009

      Got this from Mel’s site:

      “In March GroobLi, goes global and everyone bids on the same website. The stock will soar in February once Wall Street opens the books…The credit will be worth more than a click in the months to come, more countries are opening this Spring and on and on. This is happening and I am so glad I am in on the front.”

      It’s another launch, people! Hold on for the ride of your lives as Droobli rockets past eBay. . . or not.

2324. Comment by Kite Potaro | December 26th, 2009

      So Mel really is another idiot like Gene McNeally – full of hyperbole. Promising quick riches for the morons of the world. Droobli people are the worst people in the world. They have no consciences.

2325. Comment by beavis | December 26th, 2009

      The quote from Mel’s site is from another Drooblidiot, Patrick Avon. I just wanted to make sure the right donkey got the credit for the manure being spread.

2326. Comment by Dean 913 | December 27th, 2009

      I’ve asked everyone I could in the last 3 weeks about Droobli. No one out of about 60 people had ever heard of it! They were of all ages and fairly intelligent people. No one knows about Droobli. Is Droobli trying to keep it a secret?

      So anyway I told them all about it. I felt it was my duty to tell them. There are 60 more people who will never join Droobli. Everyone keep up the good work telling everyone how bad Droobli is. Let’s try to bring Droobli down. We can do it.

2327. Comment by beavis | December 27th, 2009

      Dean 913 said:

      “Everyone keep up the good work telling everyone how bad Droobli is. Let’s try to bring Droobli down. We can do it.”

      The Droobli machine is breaking down on its’ own as we speak; we’re just helping it along by loosening the lug nuts and pissing in the gas tank.

2328. Comment by Joel | December 27th, 2009

      I sorta agree with Dean 913. Droobli deserves the bad press because mysteriously they spend virtually nothing on advertising. Bobby Jensen wants us to spread the word about Droobli. He’s too cheap to spend any of his millions on advertising. So this blog is Jensen’s “word of mouth” advertising. Enjoy.

      Remember “friendship is all about not letting your friend sign up to Droobli” (Shakespeare)

2329. Comment by david | December 28th, 2009

      Hi Guys,
      3 recently completed auctions to “LUCKY ME”
      3 MASTERCARD GIFT CARDS
      SAVED 100% ON EACH

      How can this be ?????

      Also if you notice in this section 99% of auctions now are gift cards only ! people are waking up.

      When you also see a saving of more than 15%, you know that it is a somebody/BA offloading their credits, to get something in return for the wasted money .

      cheers
      Dave

2330. Comment by beavis | December 28th, 2009

      I finally figured out why kees, Only Facts, myself and many others have such a negative view of Droobli; we don’t focus on the positives. So, I’m going to focus on the postives and see where it gets me.

      1. The logo has pretty colors.
      2. The cost of a Gold Level Membership for five years is only about $15,000 (cheaper than all new BMW’s, Mercedes and a lot of Harley models).
      3. While BA recruiting practices may offend some, family and friendship is overrated.
      4, At parties you won’t be forced (or allowed) to share the corner with the attorneys and used car salesmen; Droobli BA’s are always given their own segregated corner of which no one will bother you (except another ostracized BA).

      There, that should cover it. I feel so much more positive

2331. Comment by Jeeves | December 28th, 2009

      I really think Droobli’s “pay 80 cents to find out the price of an item” is a fantastic business model. Imagine if you walked into Walmart or Best Buy and all the items had no prices listed. Then if you wanted to find out the price of something you paid 80 cents for that information. Imagine if those stores adopted that brilliant marketing concept. They’d all be as successful as Droobli!!!!! So why don’t they do it??????

2332. Comment by Earnesto | December 28th, 2009

      I’m worried about Gene McNeally. No activity on any of his business websites. He hasn’t gone and killed himself because he was outed? Do you think?

2333. Comment by Gene | December 28th, 2009

      Beav I’ve been busy, holiday and all you know. But keep sending people to my websites. I have a lot of good stuff.
      I’ve got to keep busy. What do you think I am an idiot? Life is good. Well how was your Christmas beav or is that eagle? Why not list all your names. You know prevention is the name of the game when it comes to your health beav.

      Are you feeling up to snuff? Who is Cletus? Did I tell you I got a good deal on a $500 visa debit card. Why not give it a shot or don’t you think they’ll send it to you? I got mine.

2334. Comment by Ricky | December 28th, 2009

      Gene, just shut up. You are just an Internet animal with all your sites. I assume you operate porn sites as well. You’d do anything for a buck. You got a good deal on a %500 Visa card? Wow that’s high finance!

      But seriously. You only got a good deal because BAs dump their credits as they are virtually worthless. Bob (a fellow drooblidiot) told us that!!!!

      Have you saved anyone from cancer? Sold a lot of cheap flights? Hey, maybe Al Quaida would like to buy some flights with you. What do you care? Maybe you’ll let ‘em take explosives on. Gene, you’re one sick puppy. You don’t deserve to breathe our oxygen.

2335. Comment by Kore Svensen | December 28th, 2009

      Yeah, Gene we know where you live so shut up loser. Go away and count the millions you’ve made from Droobli … ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ….

      We all want to visit you. Check out your house quietly.

2336. Comment by Dan | December 28th, 2009

      I’ve been trying to buy chaga mushrooms on droobli. Maybe Bobby Jensen could turn droobliland into a mushroom farm. Keep up the good work Gene. Your wife is great.

2337. Comment by Pixie43 | December 30th, 2009

      Hey Gene McNeally is selling a chess program! On his Droobli website. Is there anything the guy won’t sell? He’s amazing!!! The guy must be the richest guy in Nebraska. For an SDA that’s great. He may be a scary freak but he loves money. I get the feeling the SDA thing is a front so he can get more people to network with. Gene, unfortunately has a sad life.

2338. Comment by kees | December 31st, 2009

      In the mean time: Happy 2010 to everyone!

2339. Comment by Gene | December 31st, 2009

      Stop your lying beav. That chess set is free to use. Did you try it? It doesn’t cost anything. You can try my auctions for free too.
      Get the idea? Check it out. Do you even have a religion?

      Happy New Year everyone!

2340. Comment by Pixie43 | December 31st, 2009

      Get lost Gene. Save your greetings, you filthy hypocrite! You are just a blood sucking leech.

2341. Comment by The Road Warrior | December 31st, 2009

      Bob – any word on that support ticket you sent in to solve the mystery of the impossible incremental price drop?

      I hope you haven’t forgotten.

      I haven’t.

2342. Comment by Look who is talking blood sucking | December 31st, 2009

      Oh come now beav/pix have some New Years spirit Keep clicking on my sites! Parrots or is that Spin Dopes

2343. Comment by kees | January 1st, 2010

      Interesting discussion going on about Droobli at the Australian whirlpool forum:
      http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum/91?g=108

      see the “Should I be GroobLi dubious?” thread

2344. Comment by Pixie43 | January 1st, 2010

      Gene you’re an idiot. A total personality-free zone. You can’t eat your money god. You’d try to sell anything to anyone. Basically, people don’t like you. You use them just as a source of money for you. You don’t care about people. This is why you have no friends.

2345. Comment by Paul Enfield | January 1st, 2010

      Look Pixie, that’s the nature of pyramid selling or multi-level marketing or direct selling. Droobli is all that. I’m in Droobli and other MLM schemes. It’s true – every person I meet I say to myself “how can this person make me money”. Of course I don’t tell them that. I focus it back on them and pretend to be caring. What’s the big deal about all this? Everyone knows it goes on. When my uncle got me into Droobli he said that he “wanted to give me an opportunity to make money”. He didn’t say he “wanted to give himself an opportunity to make money through me”. But I knew what he meant.

      I admit I’m pretty anti-social and don’t really care about other people. I’m interested in how they can make me money. We’re all adults. Some people are driven to make money and others work for the man. If I shock you too bad. I love money. It brings love, happiness, great travel, cars, big houses, country club memberships, etc etc. It’s only people without it say “money can’t buy you love” or whatever.

      Look greed is patriotic. It’s what made the US great. Think about this. We spent money paying for kids and sdults in many countries who had been injured by land mines. And who was the biggest seller of landmines worldwide until 2003? The good ol USA. We Americans have never really cared about other people as long as we make a profit.

      If you don’t like what I’m saying go live in the few communist countries left.

2346. Comment by beavis | January 1st, 2010

      I see Paul Enfield is doing a fine job of keeping his sociopathic tendencies in check. It’s also good to know that his uncle and Bobby Jensen have bent him over and made him their bitch.

      Gene; I don’t know if you suffer from paranoia or attention deficit order because I have covered this with you before; all of my posts come with the keyword “beavis” in the “comment by” section.

2347. Comment by Jason Hughes | January 1st, 2010

      Don’t believe him Gene! I’m the real Beavis. Hey, Gene would you like to get into selling Xango? Could go with your Chaga mushrooms. Xango will cure anything. I could get you in on the ground floor.

2348. Comment by talking to dopes | January 2nd, 2010

      Oh where do I sign up and oh what are you guys on anyway? It’s got to be powerful. You guys are real dopes.

2349. Comment by Jason Hughes | January 3rd, 2010

      Gene, you’re just so cool calling people “dopes” and asking “what are you on?”. You’re an amazing cool guy. So why does your wife say it makes her skin crawl when you touch her?

2350. Comment by cool that's it | January 3rd, 2010

      yup cool that’s it

2351. Comment by Ann Sanders | January 3rd, 2010

      Wow! Gene has bounced back from his holidays with an attitude and a penchant for using different names. Same old freaky jerk, though. The same old “Mr. Personality Free Zone”. “Mr. Evil Eyes”. “Mr. I Don’t Care Who I Rip Off”. “Mr. Seventh Day Adventist Hypocrite”. “Mr. Snake Oil Salesman”. “Mr. I’ll Rip Off Dying Cancer Patients By Selling Chaga Mushrooms at $100 an ounce”. “Mr. Biggest Creep on the Internet”.

      I agree with you Jason. I feel sorry for Mrs. McNeally.

2352. Comment by Wow Ann | January 4th, 2010

      Wow Ann what happened to bashing droobli. Now you are bashing a man . What gives? Is this how these blogs work?

2353. Comment by Ann Sanders | January 4th, 2010

      Gene is a fair target because he makes millions of dollars selling worthless chaga mushrooms to cancer patients. He’s pure evil.

2354. Comment by worthless blog | January 4th, 2010

      so are you saying he said it would cure cancer

2355. Comment by Ann Sanders | January 5th, 2010

      Google him and check the claims for chaga …… Then call him at home and tell him what you think of him ….

      His phone numbers are well advertised ….

2356. Comment by The Road Warrior | January 5th, 2010

      Hmmm…”Wow Ann” and “worthless blog” are probably both Gene himself.

      Gene being deceptive.

      What a shock.

2357. Comment by Hmmm | January 5th, 2010

      Ask the owner he would know! Seems it is a worthless blog though!

2358. Comment by sowhat | January 5th, 2010

      Could be he is playing by your rules.

2359. Comment by The Road Warrior | January 5th, 2010

      “Hmmm”…it certainly dropped in value the moment you graced it with your pointless presence.

      Apart from that, there is a wealth of excellent information and research here provided by people with an admirable drive to show GroobLi up for what it really is – a scam.

      Just curious…did you have anything relevant to add?

2360. Comment by beavis | January 5th, 2010

      ““Hmmm”…it certainly dropped in value the moment you graced it with your pointless presence.”

      ouch

2361. Comment by pointless | January 5th, 2010

      That’s what this blog is all about. POINTLESS Value. There is no value here. Any person with a brain can see that.
      Bantering back and forth. Riding the backs of decent people. Making false
      claims that have been shown to be such. Come on folks be real!

2362. Comment by Eugene | January 6th, 2010

      If nothing else, this blog provides entertainment value.

      I stumbled across it months ago while I was researching an unrelated matter. The content struck my fancy, and I spent a quiet afternoon reading through the backlog of posts and learning a thing of two about Droobli and its history in the process. I’ve been following it since because I was curious to see how Droobli (and its spin-meisters) would evolve/devolve. Seeing how the Kool-aid drinkers continue to try and sell this absurd concept (and occasionally succeed, sad to say) is an interesting exploration of human nature.

2363. Comment by kees | January 6th, 2010

      Only Facts, I’ve sent you an email.

      ————-

      For anyone interested:
      some more Droobli action over at:

      “Should I be Droobli dubious?”
      http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1278895

2364. Comment by The Road Warrior | January 6th, 2010

      “pointless” wrote:

      “Making false claims that have shown to be such”

      Could you be more specific?

      For example, I (and others) made the “claim” that it doesn’t make sense that an item that starts at $xx.99 and drops by 25c per bid can end at, say, $0.25….like this:

      Lego Fire Station (auction completed)
      Value: $59.99
      Sold for: $0.25

      Is that a false claim, pointless?

      No-one has ever shown how that works. The terms and conditions don’t say a thing about it. Bob said he would send in a support ticket to query this, but he was then clearly removed from the face of the Earth since his silence is deafening.

      You also wrote, “there is no value here”

      I disagree. There are people here who have freely admitted that they have had their eyes opened about GroobLi because of the information on this blog and have saved themselves both money and the continued relationship with their family and friends.

      Just one person reading this and deciding to avoid GroobLi – that’s value.

2365. Comment by Road WHAT | January 6th, 2010

      You don’t suppose there are enough free credits around that people experiment with

      having no intention of buying do you? Is it too complicated for you? So yes your claim is false.

2366. Comment by The Road Warrior | January 6th, 2010

      What the hell are you talking about?

      Free credits?

      How does having a free credit make it ok to have a mathematically impossible price drop?

      Did you even read what I wrote? I don’t think so

      Let me spell it out clearly for the less fortunate…

      Price starts at $59.99
      Bids occur
      Bids drop the price by 25c each time
      First bid would make the new price $59.74
      Second bid would make the price $59.49
      Third bid would make the price $59.24
      Fourth bid would make the price $58.99

      And so on…

      So how does the price end at $0.25?

      Still a false claim?

2367. Comment by Road WHAT | January 6th, 2010

      You just don’t get it do ya.
      Why should anyone read what you wrote. Just pull a figure out of a hat you do. Blogs for dummies here.

2368. Comment by The Road Warrior | January 6th, 2010

      “Why should anyone read what you wrote”

      Why are you here?

      “Just pull a figure out of a hat you do”

      No. The figure was pulled from the US GroobLi Express auction site. Look it up.

      “Blogs for dummies here”

      You had the chance to be the first person in history to solve that one issue that has been around for so long…to cause all the GroobLi doubters out there to sit back in amazement and say, “wow, he solved it!! And that’s a reasonable explanation”

      But you couldn’t.

      You did what all typical Drooblidiots do – evaded the issue.

      I wouldn’t call you a dummy. It’s simply not a strong enough term.

2369. Comment by A Penny | January 6th, 2010

      Oh a penny a penny someone lost a penny. A penny for your thoughts. Oh yes that’s
      what we get from ROAD WARRIOR. Call out the ROAD WARRIOR.

2370. Comment by A Penny | January 6th, 2010

      Wow what if it was a nickle?

2371. Comment by The Road Warrior | January 6th, 2010

      “It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt”

2372. Comment by who got it | January 6th, 2010

      Doubt now that’s right. I doubt if a penny would break even you Road Worrier. Have you given much thought

      that the software only goes down by quarters of a dollar? I doubt you thought of that if so you would have defended them there auctions wouldn’t you? Somewhere a penny is lost. Maybe someone should have only gotten 24 cents taken out of there 80 cents. Yeah then they could have made 56 cents. Is my math right here Roady? Maybe the company needs the penny to buy more products. They do add up you know. Yes that’s right. If you had I million customers I’d take a penny from each one. I guess it’s not inconceivable to do that with this company is it. Yeah some lucky guy will probably have a million customers. Now there’s where a penny can surely add up. Maybe someone could tell us if the first bidder lost the penny or the last one or maybe someone in between. Well no I guess it couldn’t be that last one because with your investigation you showed us that the last one paid 25 cents. Some kid lost a penny. We’ll just have to avoid the xx.99 auctions until we come up with who got the penny.

2373. Comment by Dan | January 6th, 2010

      Droobli still advertises in Alaska Airlines magazine, so I guess that all the negative blogs aren’t hurting them very much.
      I wasted a measly $8.00 to check it out and found out when I was at $zero that “checking on a price” cost me one “credit.” My fault I suppose; I should have read the rules closer…maybe. No other site I’ve ever been on has allowed me to spend money without realizing it until it was gone. At least eBay forces you to “confirm.”

      I’m just a guy who looked up the Droobli ad from the Alaska Airlines magazine and felt like he was ripped off within minutes after buying “credits.”

      Dan

2374. Comment by OMGLOLZ | January 7th, 2010

      Jeez Dan, you must have less braincells than an amoeba. You spent 8 bucks without realizing it? Thicky McThick.

2375. Comment by beavis | January 7th, 2010

      Dan bought 10 credits, dimwit; it only took Dan one to figure out he had been ripped off.

      I would respond to Gene’s posts that he has made under multiple different user names but, as usual, they don’t make any sense so I can’t.

2376. Comment by zeeero | January 7th, 2010

      You must have misunderstood something. You wouldn’t be able to see it was zero until you bid on it. If you did see a zero after spending a credit you would have won in the zero auction because you would have spent the last 25 cents and the buy now button would come up. But there is no zero auction anymore. Fancy that. You were experimenting with no intention on buying right? That’s ok it’s cheaper than driving to the mall. The same thing applies to the Xpress auction. It’s 80 cents to see the price and if you see zero the buy now button pops up then you can buy. But with that auction you can buy at any time you see the current price after a bid is made.

2377. Comment by auction | January 7th, 2010

      That’s right the auction would be over and another one starts up right after that.

2378. Comment by The Road Warrior | January 7th, 2010

      beavis said “I would respond to Gene’s posts that he has made under multiple different user names but, as usual, they don’t make sense so I can’t”

      You’re right. It is the most incoherent, rambling, steaming pile of plop yet!

      But I have some time. So let’s have some fun.

      “Have you given much thought that the software only goes down by quarters of a dollar?”

      Yep. Hence the question.

      “I doubt you thought of that if so you would have defended them there auctions wouldn’t you?”

      Honestly….please….what in God’s name are you talking about here???

      “Maybe the company needs the penny to buy more products”

      They need much more than a penny. Hence the “business plan” of selling licences to sell licences…pyramid…illegal…scam!

      “If you had I million customers I’d take a penny from each one”

      Honestly….please….what in God’s name are you talking about here???

      “I guess it’s not inconceivable to do that with this company is it.”

      I realise I’m taking it slightly out of context but what the hell…you’re right! It’s not inconceivable that this company would try and rip people off. Hence the fact that GroobLi is a punchline rather than a legitimate business.

      “Yeah some lucky guy will probably have a million customers.”

      There you go with delusions again – No, no-one will ever have 1 million customers with GroobLi. There aren’t even 1 million customers in total. Bankruptices, failed multiple launches, a trickle of auction traffic and a closed EU shopping portal supports that. Not to mention a pending March launch here in Australia (after a “soft” launch in Nov) this is sure to attract tens of customers.

      “Now there’s where a penny can surely add up. Maybe someone could tell us if the first bidder lost the penny or the last one or maybe someone in between. Well no I guess it couldn’t be that last one because with your investigation you showed us that the last one paid 25 cents. Some kid lost a penny. We’ll just have to avoid the xx.99 auctions until we come up with who got the penny.”

      Honestly….please….what in God’s name are you talking about here???

      Try really hard here, ok? I mean really read this next bit and take note…

      You made the statement back in post 2361, “Making false claims that have shown to be such”

      The ensuing conversation was a single example to show that YOUR statement was false. There IS an anomoly with the auction prices that GroobLi reps CANNOT adequetly explain – whether it be 1 penny or 1 billion dollars – not relevant.

      So…since you again fail to address this issue, did you want to accept the defeat that every intelligent person here can see and delve into another of one of the multitude of GroobLi issues?

      Personally, I’m really keen for a discussion about GroobLiland. No matter what mood I’m in, just the thought of that word – GroobLiland – makes me smile.

2379. Comment by beavis | January 7th, 2010

      I hear DroobliLand has pina colada streams and monkey bartenders.

2380. Comment by YOU GET ZERO | January 7th, 2010

      You’re right. It is the most incoherent, rambling, steaming pile of plop yet!

      But I have some time. So let’s have some fun.

      “Have you given much thought that the software only goes down by quarters of a dollar?”

      Yep. Hence the question. (THEN YOU KNOW the price goes to the first increment and brings it to 75 cents mr incoherent)

      “I doubt you thought of that if so you would have defended them there auctions wouldn’t you?”

      Honestly….please….what in God’s name are you talking about here??? (don’t play dumb or aren’t you playing?)

      “Maybe the company needs the penny to buy more products”

      They need much more than a penny. Hence the “business plan” of selling licences to sell licences…pyramid…illegal…scam!(who gave you a licence to spread untruths?)

      “If you had I million customers I’d take a penny from each one”

      Honestly….please….what in God’s name are you talking about here??? (PLEASE)

      “I guess it’s not inconceivable to do that with this company is it.”

      I realise I’m taking it slightly out of context but what the hell…you’re right! It’s not inconceivable that this company would try and rip people off. Hence the fact that GroobLi is a punchline rather than a legitimate business. (A PENNY?)

      “Yeah some lucky guy will probably have a million customers.”

      There you go with delusions again – No, no-one will ever have 1 million customers with GroobLi. (YOU’LL NEVER KNOW)There aren’t even 1 million customers in total. Bankruptices, (BALONEY AGAIN HOW MANY TIMES ARE YOU GOING TO TRASH THE GUY FALSELY) failed multiple launches, a trickle of auction traffic and a closed EU shopping portal supports that. Not to mention a pending March launch here in Australia (after a “soft” launch in Nov) this is sure to attract tens THOUSANDS of customers.

      “Now there’s where a penny can surely add up. Maybe someone could tell us if the first bidder lost the penny or the last one or maybe someone in between. Well no I guess it couldn’t be that last one because with your investigation you showed us that the last one paid 25 cents. Some kid lost a penny. We’ll just have to avoid the xx.99 auctions until we come up with who got the penny.”

      Honestly….please….what in God’s name are you talking about here??? (WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT DIDN’T YOU DISCOVER A PENNY LOST SOMEWHERE?)

      Try really hard here, ok? I mean really read this next bit and take note…

      You made the statement back in post 2361, “Making false claims that have shown to be such”

      The ensuing conversation was a single example to show that YOUR statement was false. There IS an anomoly (YOU MEAN A PENNY)with the auction prices that GroobLi reps CANNOT adequetly explain – whether it be 1 penny or 1 billion dollars – not relevant. (WHO DO YOU THINK TOOK THE HIT?)

      So…since you again fail to address this issue, did you want to accept the defeat (WHY IT’S ALL LIES FOR THE MOST PART AND INFERENCES, NOW THAT’S DECEPTIVE?)that every intelligent person here can see and delve into another of one of the multitude of GroobLi issues?

      Personally, I’m really keen for a discussion about GroobLiland. No matter what mood I’m in, just the thought of that word – GroobLiland – makes me smile.(REALLY I DON’T CARE FOR IT THAT MUCH!)

      LIES ALL FOR YOUR AD WORD FRIENDS WHO ARE THEY?

2381. Comment by Phil Smythe | January 8th, 2010

      Look, Droobli is the crappiest bit of Multi level marketing crap I’ve seen in my life. It’s stupid. The drooblidiots think money is somehow made in Droobli. At the same time they claim droobli offers the cheapest prices on the Internet. You can’t have it both ways. I could have the cheapest prices on the Internet too. I could take a loss on every item I sell. But Droobli breaks even on what it sells. The only extra money they make comes from the drooblidiots who sign up. Bernie Madoff found lots of morons to join up to his ponzi scheme. Will dear old Bobby Jensen find even to join Droobli? Quick better launch in another country to find more suckers.

      All you people who have joined Droobli – suckers !!!!! You are just morons !!! I laugh at you guys every day ….. What losers!!!! You really read the Droobli spiel and thought it was “a great business model” ????? You guys are unbelievable!!!

      Enjoy your losses !!!!!

      Droobli won’t be around for long ….. Arrests will be happening soon…

2382. Comment by Steve 0165 | January 8th, 2010

      Phil is right. Droobli is just idiotic. It has been designed for morons. The amazing thing is how it’s moved from country to country. It’s basically over in Europe where it wasn’t a success (except for Bobby Jensen who got the drooblidiots’s start up money)….

2383. Comment by Todd | January 8th, 2010

      In Response to my post 2163 and to answer post 2165 and others.

      I said back in November “2. Just signed a 10 year lease for a new 10,000 sq-ft office building in Florida. Grand opening, March 1st.”

      Well GroobLi comes through just like I said. This is for all you idiots who didn’t believe me and wanted a third party like in post 2165.

      GroobLis New Office and Grand Opening is coming soon. GroobLi follows through just like they said.

      http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/marketwire/0573586.htm

2384. Comment by Solved | January 8th, 2010

      Buyer beware.

      If you bid on the Xpress auction you must understand the price only goes down to the nearest 25 cents on the dollar.

      If the price is for example 156.99 and you decide to bid the price will go to 156.75. That’s all there is to it and in the unique bid the price any item starts at is irrelevant.

      The reason is you can only make bids with 25 cent increments and the lowest unique bid wins or your bid is the lowest and there is not aother bid at that price. YOU WIN. Enigma solved.

2385. Comment by Eddie Edwards | January 8th, 2010

      What you drooblidiots don’t realize is the damage Droobli does. People don’t want to be bothered with that get rich quick crap. Yet, every family get together there’s someone trying to sell Droobli, Amway, Xango, chaga etc

2386. Comment by S. J. H. | January 8th, 2010

      Droobli is not a scam. It’s just a stupid scheme which is way too complex to make money. All the successful ideas are simple. If another drooblidiot gets themselves tongue-tied trying to explain droobli, I’ll scream.

      No one can ever explain why it costs 80 cents to find out what the price of an item that Droobli’s trying to sell. No business would do that. They are trying to sell the item, aren’t they? So why does it cost money to find out what the price is???

      The whole idea is moronic. It won’t fly. There are plenty of dumb people around but no one wants to spend money on a scheme where you pay money just to find out the price of something. It’s stupid.

      Great business model my A$%!!!

2387. Comment by martinbarton | January 8th, 2010

      I am 12 years old what is this?

2388. Comment by beavis | January 8th, 2010

      From the Medianet press release:

      “The Company has leased approximately 11,000 square feet in Boca Center, a central business area in South Florida. The Company expects to employ approximately 25 in its new office location including the 10 employees from their BSP Rewards division which is currently located in Margate, Florida.”

      Let’s see, 35 employees and 11,000 square feet for them. . . those are some big ass offices. Oh, I’m sorry, they are going to have “training” there. So I suppose there will be a huge space for training.

      This is such bullshit.

2389. Comment by david | January 9th, 2010

      Hello , My sister paid into this and then pulled out after 2 days!,after looking into it more.

      Its says you have 3 days on the site .

      So she sent an email for a refund, they responded and agreed to the refund , but she has not received her money ? has anyone else done this? and how long does it normally take ?

      Thanks in advance
      Dave

2390. Comment by Jack Daddy | January 9th, 2010

      After some time the ACCC got back to me.

      They have been recieving several complaints about Droobli particularly from people who have attended a certain someones seminars/presentations up and down the East Coast of Australia.

      They are gathering as much information as they possibly can on it to determine whether it is just another pyramid scheme. I also informed them about this site.

      I won’t get my money back, but at least now I know the ACCC are fully aware of it and are trying to do something about it.

2391. Comment by Knox Truasheim | January 9th, 2010

      Thanks Jack Mommy. Keep up the good work. Together we can destroy this cancer known as droobli. Why don’t we have the death penalty for joining droobli?

2392. Comment by beavis | January 9th, 2010

      “Why don’t we have the death penalty for joining droobli?”

      Or for Knox Truasheim posting.

2393. Comment by Gary | January 9th, 2010

      Only the facts,

      Cheers for the advice regarding getting my money back. After emailing twice and mentioning the ACCC I finally got my money back. It was only the fee to join, a bit under $200 Au but still I would of done the same thing if it was a dollar. I wont tolerate lies and deceit!

      I suggest that if you feel the same as me then you should take the same action.

      Finally the Droobli nightmare ends!!

      All the best for the new year!!

2394. Comment by John | January 10th, 2010

      I think that the ACC will read the comments section and see a bunch of obsessed lunatics, myself – regardless of their final judgment on Droobli.

2395. Comment by Jacobs | January 10th, 2010

      Sorry Gary but you are just the sort of uneducated fool droobli loves. Well done getting out. BTW, the contraction “would’ve” is spelled “would have” when written as two words. Not “would of”.

2396. Comment by beavis | January 10th, 2010

      John said:

      “I think that the ACC will read the comments section and see a bunch of obsessed lunatics, myself – regardless of their final judgment on Droobli.”

      And a jackass or two like you.

      Jacobs said:

      “Sorry Gary but you are just the sort of uneducated fool droobli loves. Well done getting out. BTW, the contraction “would’ve” is spelled “would have” when written as two words. Not “would of”.”

      Thank God we have our very own Grammer Nazi on this blog. Thank you, thank you, thank you Jacobs for saving us from ourselves. Now how do we get rid of you?

2397. Comment by The Road Warrior | January 10th, 2010

      Dear Solved (post 2384)

      Could you please point me to the location in the GroobLi terms and conditions where it states this?

      Thanks

2398. Comment by The Road Warrior | January 10th, 2010

      Sorry, better be more specific (GroobLi people are scary how many times they can run off on tangents)

      Solved – please point out the location in the GroobLi T&C that supports your statement of:

      “If the price is for example 156.99 and you decide to bid the price will go to 156.75″

      …and to YOU GET ZERO – that’s the amount of time I’m going to spend on your absolutely pathetically predictable response. Cheers

2399. Comment by kees | January 10th, 2010

      Siteanalytics.compete.com has just released the latest monthly Unique Visitor numbers, for Dec 2008 – Dec 2009.

      Here’s a screenshot for us.droobli.com, eu.droobli.com and drooblinetwork.com:
      http://i45.tinypic.com/24bqd82.jpg

      and a screenshot for the previous data release (Nov 2008 – Nov 2009) can be viewed here:
      i46.tinypic.com/2zscs90.jpg

      —————-
      Unique Visitors for us.droobli.com in Nov 09: 55,972
      Unique Visitors for us.droobli.com in Dec 09: 42,058

      —————-
      Unique Visitors for eu.droobli.com in Nov 09: N/A
      Unique Visitors for eu.droobli.com in Dec 09: 105

      —————-
      Unique Visitors for drooblinetwork.com in Nov 09: 7,404
      Unique Visitors for drooblinetwork.com in Dec 09: 6,406

      —————-

      Note: drooblinetwork.com is the info/register site for (potential) Business Associates.

      Also interesting:
      6-year-old Droobli compared to some of its younger “fun auctions” competitors:

      http://i46.tinypic.com/2ykcpc0.jpg

2400. Comment by The Road Warrior | January 10th, 2010

      Based on these numbers, GroobLi should achieve their aim of being bigger than ebay just as the sun burns out

2401. Comment by beavis | January 10th, 2010

      Bidcactus is kicking Droobli’s ass!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
      Oh, are they pathetic.

      Droobli=FAIL

2402. Comment by Jacobs | January 11th, 2010

      Hey Beavis, “grammer” (sic) is actually spelled “grammar”. Careful, you could become a drooblidiot. You are definitely a “person at risk”.

2403. Comment by Bob "Open Fly" Phillips | January 11th, 2010

      So these stats show that Droobli is over. Droobli is a little ponzi-like in that it needs new suckers coming in everyday. These stats show people are abandoning it despite constant pressure from the true believer drooblidiots who push it to everyone they know. Droobli is finished and about time. Remember all the lies on this forum about sis figure incomes and thousands of dollars a week. Hey Aussies … are yiu listening to this?

2404. Comment by Paul Paul | January 11th, 2010

      Let’s have a funeral for Droobli …. The 50 000 unique customers in the US are all Gene McNeally’s relatives. That hick has 8 cousins named Cletus.

2405. Comment by Eurasia | January 11th, 2010

      Paul Paul you’re right! I checked the McNeally clan out on Facebook. Some of them have two heads.

2406. Comment by The Road Warrior | January 11th, 2010

      I ran a comaprison between Ebay, Amazon and GroobLi – hilarious!

      Ebay and Amazon are fighting out a close battle in the mid-80 million unique visitor numbers

      GroobLi’s graph could be mistaken for the x-axis. Mid 40,000 unique visitors.

      Remember, GroobLi will be bigger than Ebay. Get in now. Nevermind that it’s been around since 2003. Nevermind that graph that shows no growth.

      Flatline.

      Dead.

2407. Comment by beavis | January 11th, 2010

      Jacobs said:

      “Hey Beavis, “grammer” (sic) is actually spelled “grammar”. Careful, you could become a drooblidiot. You are definitely a “person at risk”.”

      and “dickhead” is still spelled J A C O B S.

2408. Comment by Paul Paul | January 12th, 2010

      I agree with Jacobs, Beavis. These are simple words you’re getting wrong and thus showing your lack of education. I can help you.

2409. Comment by kees | January 12th, 2010

      Anybody understands Chinese here…?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pwDAJERCgs

2410. Comment by beavis | January 12th, 2010

      Paul Paul said:

      “I agree with Jacobs, Beavis. These are simple words you’re getting wrong and thus showing your lack of education. I can help you.”

      These are simple words? It’s one word that was misspelled and you used the plural. What a maroon.

2411. Comment by guess who | January 12th, 2010

      Nope no relative Cletus there you go lying again beav.

2412. Comment by Eurasia | January 12th, 2010

      Hey Beavis – what color is a “moron”? “Maroon”?

      Also, Gene McNeally (aka “guess who”) – why don’t you go down to your local cancer ward and try to rip off some dying people with your chaga mushrooms? You call yourself a Christian?

2413. Comment by guess who | January 12th, 2010

      Try it you might like it ? Eurasia do you have the big C? Is there a cure for that now? Yes I am a Christian. I think that God made things on earth to lessen suffering and I want people to know that. I never said anything cured anything. But you know I just try to do what the good book says, And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils:

      That’s what Christians do.

2414. Comment by The Road Warrior | January 12th, 2010

      Gene, answer this simply:

      Do you receive money from selling mushrooms to cancer patients or not?

2415. Comment by Eurasia | January 12th, 2010

      So you’re saying your chaga mushroom selling is like Jesus healing the sick???? He never charged for his healings!!!! You make me sick you hypocrite. I wonder how you even sleep at night with all your deceptions. You truly are evil.

2416. Comment by Neal Blatt | January 12th, 2010

      I’m thankful Droobli is now almost dead and buried because i had two relatives who were into it. I say “had” because once they started with their Droobli stuff we just cut them out of the family. They aren’t invited to any more functions and we even excluded them from Christmas. They ruined too many family get togethers with their fake concern about our finances. They were just greedy like all the other Droobli people.

      If they get out of Droobli we’ll accept them back in the family. Only single people with no families or friends should be involved with Droobli.

2417. Comment by Beavis is my slave! | January 12th, 2010

      You gotta love Gene. Have you been to his Facebook site? Or what about his Droobli site? Stare into his eyes of pure evil. I’m sure he loves the KKK. On his Droobli site he said:

      “It’s the biggest thing since eBay. It is an opportunity of a life time and the sky is the limit. Working just the opposite of eBay auctions, called reverse auction, you might say this innovation will propel us into the next generation of e-commerce. Now’s the time to take advantage of this once in a lifetime business opportunity. We are looking for representatives/associates to help propel us into this next generation of e-commerce.

      This is absolutely, a marvelous business model. It’s truly unique!”

      Gene is such a joke. The guy is an absolute moron.

2418. Comment by guess who | January 12th, 2010

      Talk about morons beav you and the bunch take the cake.

      Better look I am good looking aren’t I. Not bad for a 58 year old fellas. I’ve always been too bad guys. You like the sparkle in my eyes. Look deeply. You and your MLMpros here like to ride the backs of good companies.

      A bunch of dogs. Obviously you are taking the company seriously. You’re sure making a big stink on your MLMsystempro blog here. I mean they seem to be targeting the blog among other discontents. How many other companies are you bashing

      for your benefit. People look around that’s how these creeps make their living. Just look at their ads. They say,

      If you can’t make it in this or that join my pro team and get leads I will help you with your MLM. We target network marketers. Yup that is what they say. Sleezy if you ask me. You want leads come to me. Cheap shots.

      Beav what you quoted is still true but you missed the following Beep.

      Industry Tip!

      With all the scam offers out there it’s nice to have a real upfront online store with it’s own auctions and a shop that rewards you. Also be aware, blogs scam most everything you can imagine in order to get you to click on their google adwords so don’t be fooled. For you moms this is a great home based business. If you really want to work from home what could be a better option? For you eagle scout leaders or for you cub scouts we also have a partner program and for non-profit organizations where you can also have your own personalized web page that you can design yourself with the templates we have, powered by GroobLi to make money for your causes. Yes, you can have your own personalized Internet store with your own spin factored in on how you present it. This is perfect if you already have an organization be it your work place, business, shop, office, where you have your own close knit group that can take advantage of this unique online purchasing center. Call me so we can talk it over.

2419. Comment by beavis | January 12th, 2010

      Gene,

      Are you drunk posting? I’m not judging as better than half of my posts were done “above the limit” but your stuff is really out there.

      Is it just me or have Gene’s posts become mostly incoherent?

2420. Comment by guess who | January 12th, 2010

      And you make me sick Eurasia you hypocrite pretending you care. You’re just another parrot like beav for this evil blog

      putting down my company to create business for these other companies advertised here to profit on the backs of good companies. It will catch up to them and no Christians should involve themselves with them. You better look into the science of the mushrooms. You would keep people away for something good wouldn’t you? Why don’t you tell the hospitals that they can’t charge for care.

      You detestable imp.

2421. Comment by The Road Warrior | January 12th, 2010

      Ahem…Gene….Gene….GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENE!!!

      Why on EARTH would anyone take your advice?

      “Call me so we can talk it over”

      You make a profit from people WHO ARE DYING

      Do you realise what that says about you?

      Mate…you said it in your post…”A bunch of dogs”

      But there is only one dog here, hiding behind a Christian facade.

2422. Comment by The Road Warrior | January 12th, 2010

      On your website, oh Gene of Healing Greatness, you have some errors (well, the whole thing is an error, but anyway…)

      “We have two different auctions. This is our niche, our hook, our gimmick to help you grow a strong productive online business for the future”

      Should read:

      “We have two different auctions. This is our niche, our hook, our gimmick to help you grow a strong productive online business for the future. The auctions experience very little traffic, are riddled with inconsistency and generally suck – but hey, I know you! You want to throw money down the toilet like I did. Not mention get rid of those pesky family and friends who don’t agree with our wonderful concept of scamming”

      And

      “In Germany there are millions of customers”

      Should read

      “In the entire European Union (which does include Germany), there were 105 unique visitors to the EU auction website in Dec 09. Guys! Can you believe that? Yes, that’s right…105! This will be huge. This will be worldwide. It’s growing faster than, well…look, I can’t lie. Guys, keep it quiet, but it’s already bigger than ebay. And Amazon. And Google. Can you afford NOT to get in now? 105 guys…..1 0 5″

2423. Comment by guess who | January 12th, 2010

      I have not gotten any money yet.RO Want updates?

2424. Comment by The Road Warrior | January 12th, 2010

      I know I’m going to regret this, Gene but…..what are you talking about?

2425. Comment by Bad Turkey | January 12th, 2010

      Hi All,
      I’ve read all posts on this site purely because 2 good friends have signed up with Droobli and I wanted some objective opinions. Needless to say I wont be joining.
      I feel sorry for genuine people like Charlie (from Hawaii)and there are many who owe you guys for saving their money. My friends wont even look at or read any of the information available form non Droobli sources – so I guess that makes them Drooblitiots.
      I noticed yesterday that Droobli have commenced a TV ad campaign on Sydney cable TV (Foxtell). Very glossy very attractive ads.
      I’ve been warning as many people as I can about this germ and will continue to refer people to this site.
      Thanks again guys – happy new year.

2426. Comment by beavis | January 12th, 2010

      Road Warrior said:

      “I know I’m going to regret this, Gene but…..what are you talking about?”

      No, no, DON’T SAY IT!!!. . . oh, too late.

2427. Comment by beavis | January 12th, 2010

      I feel my brain numbing and Gene hasn’t even responded yet.

2428. Comment by John | January 12th, 2010

      Has anyone not considered that ‘guess who’ is someone with no semblance of a life pretending to be Gene? Just about the only sensible comment in the last 10 comments has been Bad Turkey.

2429. Comment by Pangea Shuffle | January 12th, 2010

      I can’t wait till GroobLi launches in Antarctica.

      We missed China, missed Europe, missed the US, missed Australia and definitely missed Pangea.

      I am not going to miss out on Antarctica! As a matter of fact, I hear that Pangea will form again in only a hundred million years.

      I am going to GroobLi Land right now to ride the plate tectonics to the final Droobli continent. I will be the first one there! We are pre launching now! The train is leaving the station.

      Now that the cat is out of the bag who wants to join me?

2430. Comment by beavis | January 12th, 2010

      John said:

      “Has anyone not considered that ‘guess who’ is someone with no semblance of a life pretending to be Gene?”

      Apparently you haven’t been following Gene and his prior postings. Only Gene could write that dribble. and as far as you comment:

      “Just about the only sensible comment in the last 10 comments has been Bad Turkey.”

      I would have to say your contribution has taken it down another notch.

2431. Comment by kees | January 12th, 2010

      Bad Turkey wrote:
      “I noticed yesterday that Droobli have commenced a TV ad campaign on Sydney cable TV (Foxtell)”

      Actually Droobli is too cheap to pay for that.
      It’s an initiative of a Droobli BA Marketing Group and the ones paying for the TV campaign are the BA’s:
      http://www.drooblimarketingco-op.com/thank-you.htm

      Seems (ex?) “SixFigureChicks” Rania Elzahar – who describes herself as “Droobli IDEPENDANTt Associate” (http://globaldrooblibiz.com/contact-us.htm) – is the one pulling the strings here …

2432. Comment by Only Facts | January 13th, 2010

      The new and best way for Droobli wake ups (those who realise they have made a bad decision) to get their money back is the following.
      In most countries a contract becomes invalid, if entering that contact breaks any law. The fact that to conduct an auction, even on the internet, without a licence is illegal will make any droobli contact invalid. Bring this up to the person who signed you up, and ask for written prove from a legitimate source they are licensed. When they cant ask for money back.

2433. Comment by Sickening | January 13th, 2010

      I am amazed all the mileage you get from an online store. How sickening you are. Spin dopes

2434. Comment by kees | January 13th, 2010

      In an earlier post I showed the unique visitor numbers of some
      ‘fun auction’ competitors compared to Droobli:
      http://i46.tinypic.com/2ykcpc0.jpg

      But now it seems still younger & less well known ‘fun auction’ sites are also having more unique visitors than Droobli:

      http://i50.tinypic.com/2ldgg8l.jpg

2435. Comment by kees | January 13th, 2010

      Now available for all doubting BA’s to see:

      Chinese TV report – Droobli China launch 2005
      Purged from official company history:
      2005 – Droobli launches in China
      http://droobli-unofficial.blogspot.com/2010/01/chinese-tv-report-droobli-china-launch.html

2436. Comment by The Road Warrior | January 13th, 2010

      Wow – I had a look at the Drooblimarketingco-op site. They are looking for BAs to help sponser this Ad campaign on all major Australian television networks.

      BA’s need to fork over $1100 each if they want to be involved.

      And what do they get out of it?

      LEADS. All important leads.

      What an expensive waste of time.

2437. Comment by Ponzi Boy | January 13th, 2010

      I’m amazed that the Aussies are going with this Droobli ad campaign. As an Aussie I know that the average Australian doesn’t have the same standard of living as the average American. Goods and services are so much more expensive here because wages are fairer in Oz. As a consequence Aussies are pretty tight with their money. If it doesn’t work in Europe or the US it won’t work in Australia. Sorry to all those BAs who will lose their money.

      Is Droobli a ponzi scheme? It just seems like when it looks like a failure in one country they move to another.

      Let’s face it: that stat about Europe is very telling. In December, 2009 only 105 Europeans came onto Droobli auctions. 105! This is in a continent of over 600,000,000 people! And when you think that most of those 105 were BAs desperately trying to protect their investment by giving Droobli auctions some traffic. Basically, interest in the Droobli shopping/buying scheme is zero.

      Can we hold a funeral for Droobli in droobliland? If they don’t need the land in Droobliland could I bid on a housing block. I bid 80 cents? Or is that really 25 cents? Wait I’m confused again!

2438. Comment by Ian Williams | January 13th, 2010

      Gene McNeally has lost it. His posts are just weird. I know Nebraska has a lot of problems with meth labs so maybe that’s the problem. I’m worried that his wife and family may be in danger. He’s at risk of freaking out. You’d better pray he isn’t a gun nut as well. (Droobli really attracts the scum, doesn’t it.)

2439. Comment by beavis | January 13th, 2010

      Ian Williams,

      I read Gene’s first post and, while it had a few grammatical errors, it was still relatively coherent. His most recent posts tell me one thing; Gene is now barking mad. I don’t know if the realization that his financial dream was a hoax or if he suddenly quit anti-depressants, but he sure is out there now. Wait, maybe those aren’t Chaga mushrooms. . .

2440. Comment by kees | January 14th, 2010

      It seems Droobli is getting ready for an umpteenth “relaunch”, this time in Germany

      “RePowering GroobLi Germany”
      http://www.obtainer-online.com/repowering_droobli_germany_3_264_EN.html
      ———————-
      “GroobLi, which was launched in Berlin, Germany, in 2003, experienced a real repowering on Tuesday, November 25th, 2009.”

      “At the moment in the European auction there are about 100 different top-quality products such as, for example, iPhones, fashion accessories and much more. All the other products will be found by GroobLi customers in the USA in the large GroobLi Shopping Mall, which will shortly also be available for the European market.”

      “But that is only the beginning!” promises Bobby Jensen. “In 2010 we will have finished our technical development and with it we will revolutionize the market …”
      ———————-

      Exiting!

2441. Comment by John | January 14th, 2010

      Barking mad pretty much sums up the lot of you, actually. Perhaps the whole of the comments section is the work of one mad genius with far too much time on his/her hands?

      Feel free to insult, Beav!

2442. Comment by kees | January 14th, 2010

      Ooops, new SEC filing from MEDG just in, released yesterday:

      ————-
      MEDIANET GROUP TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
      FORM 10-K
      FOR THE TRANSITION PERIOD FROM JANUARY 1, 2009 TO SEPTEMBER 30, 2009
      http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1097792/000116169710000030/medianet10k.txt
      ————-
      PART IV
      ITEM 15. EXHIBITS, FINANCIAL STATEMENT SCHEDULES.
      {…}
      Note 3 – Going Concern and Management’s Plan
      {…}
      F-15

      MEDIANET GROUP TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
      NOTES TO THE CONSOLIDATED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS
      {…}
      At September 30, 2009 and 2008, the Company had an accumulated deficit of ($6,874,886) and ($5,716,477). The Company also realized net losses of ($875,809) and ($555,046) for the nine month period ended September 30, 2009 and 2008, respectively.
      ————-

      Mmmmm, doesn’t look good…

      Accumulated deficit in Sept 2008: $5,716,477
      Accumulated deficit in Sept 2009: $6,874,886

      And this is practically the ‘inventor’ of the Rewards Shopping Mall (and boasting to be the “Largets Rewards Shopping Mall in the Galaxy”), currently operating 60+ of them , all identical to the 1 Droobli has on its site… and Droobli counts on its Rewards Shopping Mall as THE big money maker…

      

2443. Comment by Ian Williams | January 14th, 2010

      Kees, you gotta stop !!! Drooblidiots are jumping out of windows because of your evidence. These morons are drwan from the lower strata of society and have no education and critical thinking facilities. This is why they get into this mess. When a “get rich quick scheme” comes along they jump at it because they want to atone for so many past mistakes. Droobli came along with all the right language, all the cliches, all the so-called business-speak, etc and it just reeled in the idiots.

      Listen Drooblidiots!!! I will say this only once. When someone has a brilliant business idea they go it alone or with a small group. When someone with an idea wants to sign up a huge number of people for a fee that’s just their insurance against the idea failing. If and when the idea fails, they have your money. That is Droobli.

      Now did you get all that? Is that a simple enough explanation for all the drooblidiots who nervously read this blog?

2444. Comment by Rolf | January 14th, 2010

      All the evidence doesn’t matter. Droobli will eat ebay one day. C’mon Droobli! Yeah! Droobli is great! Jump on board!

2445. Comment by Bad Turkey | January 14th, 2010

      Hey Kees,
      I need your expertise. I’ve been on the Australian Droobli site and I am trying to find where the number of completed auctions are. They are listed but there is no total. It also seems that there are completed auctions from other areas mixed in as well as there are completed auctions of items like ‘Chevron-Texaco Gas cards’, Albertsons gift cards and Walgreens cards, all of which are foreign to me (a native).
      It also seems that there is the grand total of 236 items for sale in the entire Aussie site. Can this be right??
      I’m sure ebay is shaking in their boots.
      Thanks.

2446. Comment by beavis | January 14th, 2010

      Bad Turkey,

      Droobli has a history of making up fake auction results. You have just demonstrated that the practice continues with your observance that none of the gift cards are usable in your locale. This is not a criticism of Droobli as they know their audience. Drooblidiots are simply too stooooopid to get it.

      Gene,

      Here is a question for you:

      “What is the date and what planet are we on.”

2447. Comment by Leave Gene Alone | January 14th, 2010

      Hi everyone. I’m manager of the Leave Gene Alone and its associated website. All of you can join this site at bronze level for only $199. You can check on Gene’s condition here at the mental institution for 80 cents a time. When you click you will be able to access a webcam trained on Gene 24/7. All proceeds go to his rehabilitation and re-integration into normal society.

      Apparently the Internet millionaire claims he made were bogus. But now it’s your turn to help. He’s addicted to smoking chaga mushrooms and selling seats on non-existing airlines.

      Help this man. Every 80 cents counts.

2448. Comment by kees | January 14th, 2010

      Bad Turkey, you are referring to “the Australian Droobli site”/”the Aussie site”… Can you post a link here?

      Possibly you mean an AU/NZ Droobli BA/Partner site, with the Droobli-US site ‘embedded’ in that site…?

      As far as I know there are still only 2 Droobli sites: us.droobli.com and eu.droobli.com.

      Anyway, a link would be welcome.

      In general though:
      On the us.droobli.com site there are currently indeed only 236 Xpress auctions running and 16 Unique Bid auctions. The us.droobli.com site is ’serving’ USA + Canada + Mexico + Australia + New Zealand.

      Of those 236 Xpress auctions, 44 are ‘eligible’ for AU/NZ’s to bid on, and of the 16 Unique Bid auctions, 6 are eligible for AU/NZ’s to bid on. (a little AU flag near the auction title signifies this)

      So, all in all: if you’re in AU/NZ you have (currently) 50 Droobli “fun auctions” to participate in (might be 49 or 51 tomorrow).

      As far as I understand, non-AU/NZ’s can also bid on the AU/NZ-eligible items.

      Completed AU/NZ-eligible items don’t appear to be ‘kept’ in a separate section, they are indeed mixed with the other completed auctions (and can only be identified by the little AU flag next to the title, and it doesn’t say whether the buyer was AU/NZ or US/CA/MEX).

      This is my understanding of how it works, I’m sure a BA will jump in to correct me where needed

      Hope this helps.

      Kees

2449. Comment by beavis | January 14th, 2010

      I won’t correct you. You are obviously way more sober than I am

2450. Comment by John | January 15th, 2010

      Not to mention anal.

2451. Comment by beavis | January 15th, 2010

      John,

      Why don’t you do us all a favor and go down to the L.A. zoo, find the monkey cage, jump the fence and consume your weight in feces.

2452. Comment by Leave Gene Alone | January 15th, 2010

      No one has come to the “Leave Gene Alone” site. Look, for 80 cents I’ll supply catalog pages that have prices on them. Drooblidiots can click for 80 cents and get to see pages of random prices. That’s better than droobli where you only get to see one price.

      Prices are like porn for drooblidiots. Apparently they’ll pay anything to see a good set of figures. I guess the number three looks like a pair of breasts. Then there’s always 69. So that Droobli’s game! Get the drooblidiots hooked on number porn.

2453. Comment by Bad Turkey | January 15th, 2010

      Kees,
      You appear to be correct as far as the Aussie website is concerned, however the concern to any Droobli BA would surely be the fact that there is a combined total of 236 items available to bid on for the US, NZ & Australia.
      Thanks for your help.

2454. Comment by beavis | January 16th, 2010

      Leave Gene Alone,

      I know your game! Your offering me the Bronze Package for $199 when you know good and well that the Gold Package is the ticket to financial independence. You’ll not fool me! Here is $3,000; now give me the Gold Package and make it snappy. While your at it get one ready for Gene; I know he’ll want one, too.

2455. Comment by John | January 16th, 2010

      I tried doing that last week, Beavis. You should try it too!

2456. Comment by Dr. Reynolds | January 17th, 2010

      I, too, have noted Beavis’ problems – he doesn’t take criticism very well. Beavis, you need to get more centered. You won’t be loved by everyone.

2457. Comment by beavis | January 17th, 2010

      Dr, Reynolds said:

      “I, too, have noted Beavis’ problems – he doesn’t take criticism very well. Beavis, you need to get more centered. You won’t be loved by everyone.”

      That’s where you are wrong; I am loved (and worshipped!) by everyone.

2458. Comment by Rolf | January 17th, 2010

      So when is this blo going to fold, now that droobli is virtually finished? I’m hoping to get some stationery, pens and notebooks with the Droobli name on it.

      Also, I’m considering writing a book on the history of droobli. I want to hear from people who were there at the beginning. Also, I want to hear stories about when people firsat woke up to the fact that the whole thing was rather stupid. I need interviews with some of the executives. Find out what they’ve moved on to.

2459. Comment by beavis | January 17th, 2010

      Sorry, Rolf; Droobli dog paddles on. But, when it does go, it’s going to be hilarious

2460. Comment by John | January 18th, 2010

      Yes, yes, misery is hilarious.

2461. Comment by Only Facts | January 18th, 2010

      John.

      Not sure if that was sarcasm or a genuine statement. However I do think it was one that deserves a response.

      I genuinely feel for the majority of people that will loose money from this, and it is inevitable. There are however, those out there that I will feel nothing for. An example is this person,

      http://sallybrigg.com.au/droobli/

      Around Oct. 09 I personally contacted this person. I was curious to know how much she knew about Droobli for someone who was so pro-Droobli. Each time I asked a question the response was the same, “I will email ??????? (the head of her line) for an answer”. The questions revolved around Bobby Jensen’s bankruptcies, Rick McCoy’s history and the legality of the gaming issue. Simply the fact she could not answer these questions her self waved a red flag. In fact she claimed she knew nothing about these problems. Well I supplied her with the evidence and the response I received was “Droobli was not her passion (some cure all drink was) and she would not do anything to damage her reputation, so Droobli was gone (paraphrasing).

      Surprise, surprise here she is in 2010 spruiking the wonders of Droobli knowing full well what they are about, and not mentioning any facts to the next gullible Droobli BA. Instead will use the age old sales tool………..”I have looked into this greatly and it’s a winner”.

      These are the people that should be drawn and quartered. Out right lying to fill their pockets, knowing all to well something is rotten. Well done Droobli.

      A question; A while ago Bob was sending a “ticket” to ask about the bizarre mathematical auction results. Did we ever hear what happened?

2462. Comment by the old magic | January 18th, 2010

      Every droobli person is also a snake oil seller. They are hedging their bets. When Droobli falls over they still have their snake oil to sell. Snakes apparently need a lot of this so they can slither easily. A sure market.

2463. Comment by beavis | January 18th, 2010

      I like Sally Brigg’s comment:

      “Droobli and MediocreNet Group Technologies merger has been finalised which effectively makes the company a publicly listed company on the New York exchange. This adds an enormous amount of credibility to the whole Droobli story and positions the company superbly….”

      “New York (Stock) Exchange”; and I thought they were a “pink sheet” stock.

      But who am I to question. After all, Sally claims:

      “I have written papers and procedures and have even been fortunate enough to have one of my papers published in the Dental Magazine of Australia publication in 2004.”

      Well, if that doesn’t make her the Winston Churchill of our generation.

2464. Comment by Scammer Sam | January 18th, 2010

      I like Droobli. May you all lose all your money.

2465. Comment by beavis | January 19th, 2010

      Where is Gene and Bob? And why is the “Guru of On-Line Marketing”, Jason Switzer, so quiet? It’s as if they have lost faith. Come on, Jason, tell us how we are to simple to understand the intricate Droobli plan that would lead us to fantastic wealth, tell us tails of huge downlines, taunt us with stories of making money while sleeping and describe the fantasy world of DroobliLand in luscious detail.

2466. Comment by John | January 19th, 2010

      It was a genuine comment, Only Facts. Anyway, this is the last time I’ll be visiting. I do wonder about you and your monomania with GroobLi, Beavis. Don’t you have anything better to do? I would imagine Gene and Bob have left because all you have to offer is gratuitous insults and circular arguments. I can’t imagine that most sane people are going to get beyond 200 comments, so it’s really just an empty scream into the void.

      Cheerio.

2467. Comment by beavis | January 19th, 2010

      It’s kind of like golf.

2468. Comment by The Road Warrior | January 19th, 2010

      Only Facts –

      I was quizzing Bob on the mathematical anomoly in the auction prices and he was going to send in a “ticket” to answer my question.

      He’s vanished.

      I agree that a lot of posts on this blog have degenerated into personal attacks and are, at times, counterproductive.

      But I tried to keep my frustration in check with Bob and ask him an honest question to which I would expect an honest response. But it seems as soon as the insults stop and the focus is back on GroobLi, the fear re-surfaces and the BAs disappear. When they return, it’s much like Gene’s recent posts – incoherent and scary.

      Also interesting…I have a family member in GroobLi (BA
      ) here in Australia. I was actually able to have a reasonable discussion with him where I raised many of the points posted here. Not surprisingly, they could answer none of the issues. Not a single one! I think I actually saw a glimmer of concern in his eye at one point (else it may have been a thought about what scam to get into next – maybe some mushrooms).

      Anyway…he also promised to send in a ticket to answer some of the questions.

      Vanished as well

      So Bob…anyone in GroobLi…if you are still out there…please answer the question.

2469. Comment by Lost Faith | January 19th, 2010

      A loss of faith can be a terrible thing. The drooblidiots are retreating. We must track them to their caves and burn their villages. Droobli must be completely destroyed so this cancer is not allowed to spread anymore.

2470. Comment by Gene's huntin' dog | January 19th, 2010

      Everything can be sold by a MLM scam, I mean scheme. Why doesn’t Walmart just sell its stuff by MLM? They’re crazy! They could be as successful as Droobli! What about gas? That could be sold via MLM. All those oil companies are idiots. Amazon should become an MLM. Ebay should change to the Droobli methods of selling.

      McDonald’s should sell its product with a MLM scheme. They should charge people for checking prices or just have customers try to guess their total bill for a fee. Let’s bring Droobli fun into currently successful companies. Yippeee.

2471. Comment by beavis | January 20th, 2010

      Hey, whatever happened to the ability to buy shares in Droobli? http://www.droobli-invest.com disappeared. Kind of old news as it hasn’t been seen by the Internet Archive Wayback since ‘08. Still, why did they stop it (other than the fact it wasn’t a legal public offering)?

2472. Comment by kees | January 20th, 2010

      The droobli-invest.com site was probably taken offline to prevent newcomers-to-droobli having easy access to some rather embarrassing old thingies from Droobli’s past (similarly to why they have purged their 2005 China launch from official corporate history), like e.g. the fact that present Droobli Chairman Kent Lee Holmstoel was heavily involved (as a director of OIB International)in promoting the Droobli ’shares’ during their 2007 “Droobli goes to the London Stock Exchange!” hype (and that NOW was the time to buy those Droobli ’shares’), like in this archived page:
      http://web.archive.org/web/20070918194133/www.droobli-invest.com/Default.aspx?ID=1761

      

2473. Comment by Dublin is king | January 20th, 2010

      Droobli will make fools of all of you. We’ll all be millionaires and you’ll be still working for the man making minimum wages. All this is just lies. Droobli will be bigger than ebay within a few years. Just give it a few years. My brother-in-law is already a millionaire from Droobli. Remember when the whole world clicks we make cash streams. Not you losers, we Droobli people. Cash flows to us everytime someone checks a price. Those pennies grow into dollars real fast, I can tell you. The business model is brilliant. we don’t need advertising. Word of mouth is the main way to sell nowadays. Advertising is in decline and soon there will be no more advertising. Go out and join Droobli. Then form teams. Comb your local area. Bring people to the table. Droobli is absolutely huge. Most of the world will be Droobli one day. It’s the perfect business model. It’s helped my life and my marriage. My health has never been better. E commerce is where it’s at. No one talks to anyone anymore so the e commerce fits. None of us want to be bothered being mugged on the way to the stores. Buy with Droobli. Lowest price in our galaxy. I’m doing great and you can too. What’s stopping you? Gene, you deserve a medal for helping others become rich and healthy. It’s win win for Droobli people. You have no excuse. Join up and become a winner. Click on any Droobli site for a dream life. Everything in your life will be better. Everything will taste better. Because you will be a better you. Join today and bring your relatives. They will thank you when they become rich.

2474. Comment by The Road Warrior | January 20th, 2010

      Droobli is king – You’re funny

2475. Comment by beavis | January 20th, 2010

      Droobli is King,

      You’ve crushed me; “working for the man making minimum wage”. I’m so depressed. Maybe I’ll by some tokens and bid on some anti-depressants when the Droobli On-Line “No Prescription Required” Pharmacy/Auction launches to great fanfare in June of 2011!

2476. Comment by Dublin is king | January 20th, 2010

      Go and get some free credits from my upline Gene and try this thing. You guys are just talking about something you know nothing about. Don’t let this incredible opportunity go by just because of negativity. You can be rich or you can give it away to charities like “Celebrities Without Borders” if you wish.

2477. Comment by Leon Leonwood | January 20th, 2010

      I arranged to meet Gene McNeally in a carpark in Omaha and he didn’t show. He talks tough but he was a no show. I was going to physically challenge him. My hands would’ve been facing downwards and my feet would have been in the same horizontal plane – a totally defensive posture.

2478. Comment by The Road Warrior | January 20th, 2010

      Droobli is king – stop stop stop…you sound just like one of them! Hahahaha

      brilliant :D:D:D:D

2479. Comment by Dr. Reynolds | January 21st, 2010

      I want to get Gene McNeally’s urine sample. Just for my own curiosity.

2480. Comment by beavis | January 21st, 2010

      I hear it all tastes the same.

2481. Comment by SFJCOOK | January 21st, 2010

      You won’t find any reliable traffic data from Alexa.com, since most people are visiting rep websites, not the actual http://www.droobli.com site, and Alexa can’t add up total traffic to affiliate sites. All of the Partner Programs and Reps have different web addresses so all of the so called Statistics that are being shown as so funny don’t show the real picture. I think a lot of people would be surprised how many people are Shopping on GroobLi. I know because I get overrides on all of the tens of thousands of customers in my Organization. Remember that GroobLi just opened their U.S Shopping Portal in June of 2009, that is only 6 months ago.

2482. Comment by LaLaLand | January 21st, 2010

      I find it kinda hilarious that you spend all this time to denounce Droobli but the site advertises other obvious scams like the ad just under the comment submit button here. “I’m rich. your not. I cracked the code to making money. See how I make 3 million per year here doing nothing, and how you can too”. All with an Elvis! lol

2483. Comment by Only Facts | January 21st, 2010

      SFJCOOK

      While I’ll accept your view on Alexia.com, I believe it would be harder for you to justify your claims given poor auction results and the fact the same people keeping winning. The odds are just to dramatic for this to be true. In relation to the shopping porthole, again I believe it would be hard for you to justify you claims given the fact that “success” company has just posted another loss of over 6 million. They have be consistently loosing money from day one. There share prices were in the toilet prior to the merger, and even now they are dismal for such a successful company. If you look at ALL the facts and not Droobli gossip the picture is very clear.

2484. Comment by Moose Henry | January 21st, 2010

      Dear La la Land,

      The ads here are typical of these free sites. The orignator of this blog/forum has no say in which ads are attached. Differnet ones scroll through from time to time. Perhaps we’ll see a Droobli ad? Oh that’s right, Droobli’s mantra is “the way to a successful business is to not advertize”!

      Coca Cola are fools spending so much money on ads!!!!

2485. Comment by Eddie | January 21st, 2010

      I agree Moose. If only Coke wouldn’t spend money on ads they could be as successful as Droobli. You know Droobli – the company no one’s heard about.

2486. Comment by SFJCOOK | January 21st, 2010

      ONLY FACTS,

      Thanks for the response. With any company trying to get started there are going to be bumps and bruises along the way. GroobLi has certainly had it’s share of those as I and my marketing team have experienced. Some people had expectations that it would explode overnight but the reality is even sites like Amazon were a joke for years and now look at it. I have customers that love GroobLi and some that don’t but that is to be expected. It is going to take time to truly be able to know if GroobLi will be a Global ecommerce powerhouse. I know they have a lot more in mind than just Auctions and a Shopping Portal. I am excited for March 1st when GroobLi becomes a seamless Global Auction and Shopping Portal to every country in the World. The amount of items on the Auctions is going to go way up at that point. China could be a huge market! Time will only tell and all ecommerce Giants took time to develop so we will see. God Bless

2487. Comment by SFJCOOK | January 21st, 2010

      I would say let people decide for themselves on whether or not they like GroobLi. In fact I will give any person that comes to this site $4.00 worth of Auction Credits to see if they can find a good deal. Register for Free at http://myfreeregistrationatdroobli.com and your credits will be in your email inbox. Make sure to check your spam as well.
      I would bet that everybody could find something they would like to have at a great price on the Xpress Auction. You can’t beat 10-30 percent off with a click of a button. I would like to hear feedback please.

2488. Comment by beavis | January 21st, 2010

      SFJCOOK,

      Thank you for clarifying Droobli’s current situation. You fully explained why winning bids are mathematically impossible, why the same few “winners” get all the incredibly (impossibly) great deals and how items of value get mysteriously bid down with no one buying them until they reach $0. The problem is your company makes up auction results, has few customers, has been in operation for years without any measurable success and relies entirely on recruiting “Business Associates” (aka “victims”) to generate their main income. The joke isn’t just your company; it’s the whole concept.

      LAUNCH ALERT! MARCH 1st! SEE BELOW!

      SFJCOOK said:

      “I am excited for March 1st when GroobLi becomes a seamless Global Auction and Shopping Portal to every country in the World.”

      Nothing like one more bullshit launch date that is going to keep the Titanic afloat. I’m sorry; did I say “Titanic”? I meant S.S. Minnow.

2489. Comment by Bob | January 22nd, 2010

      Announcement:
      GroobLi did not answer my customer service inquiry about that and several other things. Not only that, they have caused many people to experience the same. They have dropped the ball as a company in several areas, that being one of them.

      My opinion has dramatically changed about GroobLi, because of many several things, especially the helpful, and undeniable ones presented by Kees.

      Advice:
      It is most helpful when facts are presented without antagonism, that puts GroobLi people in a defensive position.

      I appreciate Only Facts, one or 2 others, and especially Kees for presenting real facts on history, and numbers that are undeniable, and must me accepted.

      Beavis, you are correct in your alignment against GroobLi, but most of your posts are nothing more than entertainment.

      I do think there is value as a customer, as I always did, but customers simply do not care, especially now that there are 40 other similar sites, and Droobli is not the “Novel New Thing” as we are told on the webinars.

      There are too many people making fools out of themselves, and making ridiculous claims that can be easily refuted.
      There is no money being made on back end that I can see.
      Only on front end sign-ups.

      When people can prove there is money to be made on the customer, I will reconsider.

      Although I was most interested in the potential of the partner program, I stand corrected. I believe in the truth, and being aligned with it.

2490. Comment by Bob | January 22nd, 2010

      Beavis,
      To your credit, this blog would have been far less interesting, and would not have succeeded without you. By the way, you don’t need to drink too much, it will eventually kill you, and Droobli is not worth it.

      As far as Droobli goes, They have proven themselves to be completely untrustworthy, problematic, and unethical.

2491. Comment by kees | January 22nd, 2010

      Welcome SFJCOOK

      SFJCOOK wrote:
      “You won’t find any reliable traffic data from Alexa.com” … “All of the Partner Programs and Reps have different web addresses so all of the so called Statistics that are being shown as so funny don’t show the real picture”

      Okay, well, let’s have a look then at the proudly presented Droobli Partner sites over at http://www.drooblipartner.com/1-37__References.html … these must be top-notch or else Droobli wouldn’t be mentioning them?

      joemorganyouthfoundationshop.com
      tinerasmussenauction.com
      mazeauction.com
      sparkscharitiesauction.com
      zinicauction.com
      riderdownauctions.com

      Mmmm, each and every one of them displays “Not in Top 100,000″ results at Alexia… not really impressive.

      SFJCOOK also wrote:
      “I think a lot of people would be surprised how many people are Shopping on GroobLi”

      No surprise here, as Droobli-Us has just about
      “120,000 registered North American customers, whereas from what we can tell, a month ago there were less than 100,000″
      as we can read in the Dec. 11, 2009 update from Droobli Sales Director John Cini (antipaper.wordpress.com/page/3/)

      But considering that the “less than 100,000″ of Nov. 2009 were apparently already topped in Nov. 2008 (see below) we can’t be too sure about any data that comes from Droobli, it seems…

      Nov. 2008 data (from drooblieagles.com/qa2.html):
      “How is GroobLi doing in the United States?”
      “Since its US launch on October 4th, 2008, GroobLi US has far exceeded the growth of its European counterpart. In fact, GroobLi US had 100,000 registered customers by November 15th, little over a month after launch”

      Then, immediately below the previous quote, we find:
      “In comparison, it took Europe six months to achieve the same goal”

      But that’s again a completely different story than the one the drooblinetwork site currently wants us to believe (drooblinetwork.com/1-22/):
      “GroobLi.com’s select test market in Europe saw 2.3 million customers come in just eight months”

      If this were true, where have all these customers gone? Obviously they aren’t shopping at Droobli-EU anymore. Only a handful of auctions ending daily, and there’s not even a shopping portal.

      Lots of contradictory funny stuff going on here…
      How can we trust ANY data coming from Droobli or its BA’s?

      SFJCOOK further wrote:
      “Remember that GroobLi just opened their U.S Shopping Portal in June of 2009, that is only 6 months ago”

      Well, also remember that the Droobli Global Trading Portal already launched in May 2004 (i48.tinypic.com/2ymesuw.jpg) that’s close to 6 years ago. I don’t think Droobli’s current customer numbers are anything to be exited about.

      SFJCOOK additionally wrote:
      “China could be a huge market!”

      Yes, it could be, but apparently it wasn’t in 2005 (http://i47.tinypic.com/2805glh.jpg) or else Droobli wouldn’t have scrapped that event from its official history, I think.

      But maybe they will do better in China this time, after all I’ve heard the Chinese authorities just LOVE mlm-recruiting type of companies, without any physical presence in China and hiding behind their local BA’s with whom they (those companies) claim to have no legal liability bindings…

      Thanks for the free credits offer btw, but I still have a few dozen left from other free offers, don’t need more at the moment.

2492. Comment by kees | January 22nd, 2010

      Wow Bob, I applaud you for being so honest and courageous to make your conclusion/announcement here, my hatts off to you!

      I’m very sorry though for your disappointment and/or loss.

2493. Comment by Bob | January 22nd, 2010

      By the way my message #2489 was posted by accident before I had a chance to proof it, but it will suffice.

2494. Comment by Only Facts | January 22nd, 2010

      Bob

      I to wish to congratulate you on your honesty. There is a Latin saying, roughly translated, which says “It is easy to honourable standing next to god, but the man who can shows honour with the devil on shoulder is truly a man of men”.

      I am firm believer in good things come to good people, in saying that, knowing you were doing this for a charitable organisation, would you be willing to name the organisation?

2495. Comment by beavis | January 22nd, 2010

      Bob,

      Good form. I don’t know if this will help but whenever a dishonest company costs me money, I return the favor five-fold. It won’t put your money back in your pocket but the feeling that you cost them five times what they took from you has a really nice healing effect. Instead of being a helpless victim you become a costly mistake on their part. If you can stop five people from buying in as a BA you not only directly hit Droobli’s pocketbook, you weaken it’s distributer base (kill a recruiting BA’s downline and you kill that BA). You are no longer a sheep; you are a pissed off wolf.

      “May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won’t.”
      - General George Patton Jr

2496. Comment by Steve 0165 | January 22nd, 2010

      Bob is my hero. He tried Droobli. He defended Droobli. He came on here with all the Droobli bravado and cliches, such as:

      “You make money while you sleep”
      “Even ebay had problems starting up”
      “You can make money for doing nothing”
      “I will give you % credits”
      “Everyone can win on the auctions”
      “Droobli has the lowest prices on the planet”
      “Droobli gives a lot to charity”
      “Droobli is going to launch everywhere in the world”
      “Everyone can be rich with Dunli”

      When Bob found out what a joke Droobli was, the hyperbole (i.e. the exaggeration) began to stop. I thought he would never renounce Droobli. He’s a natural liar – just the perfect fit for Droobli. Remember Bob claimed to have launched “many, many companies”. So Bob, you’ll probably stumble onto some other way to rip off people. The only reason you are renouncing Droobli is because you got ripped off. You don’t really care about others. That makes you a sociopath.

2497. Comment by Dr. Reynolds | January 23rd, 2010

      I want to get Bob’s urine sample. Just for my own curiosity.

2498. Comment by Adrian | January 23rd, 2010

      Thanks mate for writing this, I was just about to get into this scam, sounded perfect for a low budget Best, Adrian

2499. Comment by Charlie | January 23rd, 2010

      Boy you’re one tough cookie Beavis, remind me to stay on your good side, I’m sorry I still picture you as an Obese Shut-in living in your Mom’s basement,

2500. Comment by Bob "Open Fly" Phillips | January 23rd, 2010

      Adrian so you’re from Oz? Why not get into it. You’ll only lose all your friends an d a few hundred dollars. You’ll help Bobby Jensen get richer. That will give you a good feeling. Surely?

2501. Comment by A. Davidson | January 24th, 2010

      Beavis has read the art of war. Let’s feed on the carcass that is droobli. Let’s spit the rotting flesh into the eyes of the drooblidiots. Drooblidiots deserve all they get. They are a cruel, uneducated lot. They don’t care about anyone or anything except money. Gene McNeally is the worst. He feeds off the carcasses of cancer victims so he can sell his worthless chaga mushrooms. He claims to be a good old Seventh Day Adventist. But all he is, is a horrible hypocrite. No real Christian would be part of Droobli. It is evil as is every MLM “company”.

2502. Comment by beavis | January 24th, 2010

      Charlie said:

      “I’m sorry I still picture you as an Obese Shut-in living in your Mom’s basement,”

      Please keep your porn fantasies to yourself, Charlie.

2503. Comment by The Road Warrior | January 24th, 2010

      Bob – Well said and well done

2504. Comment by LaLaLand | January 24th, 2010

      Get a fuckin’ life, dudes.

2505. Comment by beavis | January 24th, 2010

      Here is a nice list of other “penny auctions”. Seems that Droobli is not even close to unique in their methods of operation:

      http://www.pennyauctionwatch.com/directory-of-penny-auctions-2/

      By the way, the majority of these sites are scams with fake auction results. Sound familiar?

      And here is an article in Wired that spells it out entitled “Penny Auctions Bet on Chump Change”:

      http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/01/penny-auctions-bet-on-chump-change-part-i-of-ii/

      It just keeps getting better and better.

2506. Comment by Eddie | January 24th, 2010

      LaLaLand – we won’t stop until the vultures have picked over the stinking carcass of Droobli. I have a dream today. We won’t give up until every BA has quit and tries to get a real job and provide for their families. I have a dream today. We won’t quit until every drooblidiot has had his tongue removed so he can’t destroy another family get together or divide a church. I have a dream today.

2507. Comment by Charlie | January 24th, 2010

      You’re so good with the come-backs Beavis, I don’t know how you come up with such good stuff, My porn fantasies don’t involve you as much as they do your Mom. I’m on Facebook dude I’ve already given you my name, of course unlike yourself I got nothing to hide, I won’t hold my breath,

2508. Comment by Visitor 1 | January 24th, 2010

      Are you guys for real? I want to join Droobli because you can make money easily. anyone can do it and everytime someone buys something or even checks a price you make money. sounds great. I don’t understand why you attack it. If you don’t want a lot of money don’t join Droobli. Leave it all for me. I’ve heard $10,000 a week is common with Droobli because it’s based on total global sales. Your negativity won’t change my goal to be rich. You attack Gene but I think your jealous. He’s the smartest guy in the room because he’s made it and has everything he wants. Droobli has made him a millionaire. Leave him alone just because your too stupid to sign up for Droobli.

2509. Comment by Grateful | January 24th, 2010

      Hi everyone

      I just wanted to thank you for taking the time to post. I’ve just had an introduction by some droobli people and I must say I was impressed by the web sites but being a sceptic I did some homework and here I am.

      My summation is many people will be sold the concept because already there are some seemingly smart people that come across as if they honestly believe in it.

      It’s hard to argue when you see prices well below what you can easily find in Australia, just a click and 80c away! However as I pointed out it seems to me that for the prices to be so good someone (indeed many) must do their 80c cold.

      You get a low price because others were hoping for even lower.

      So my point is this, I think they are right with the “fun” part if you simply look on it as gambling. That’s provided it was run above board and nothing was rigged (hard to imagine) but only having one (of the same) item at a time limits this concept as never being a real threat to on-line shopping.

      Good for a laugh and reading this thread, well I almost wet myself.

      Good luck to any already in, hey it was worth it just for the realisation you too can be silly.

      “Amway on the net” cool if you don’t mind burning your friends and family even if you thought you were doing them a favor.

2510. Comment by beavis | January 24th, 2010

      Charlie said:

      “Boy you’re one tough cookie Beavis, remind me to stay on your good side, I’m sorry I still picture you as an Obese Shut-in living in your Mom’s basement,”

      No, I’m in your mom’s basement

2511. Comment by Dr. Reynolds | January 25th, 2010

      I want to get Charlie’s urine sample. Just for my own curiosity.

2512. Comment by M.K. Vishnan | January 25th, 2010

      I want to tell your readers about an exciting new opportunity called Droobli II. It will launch soon and is a totally different model to what’s out there. You can on sell you membership and credits. Through a series of “piggy-backed” apps Droobli II members will be able to transfer goods around the globe without really doing so. Warehouses in key market areas will enable this. There are so many benefits to the improved Droobli model. Selling time is much shorter and team members can be leased to other lines to make up for shortfalls creating a much more stable structure. Teams will be smaller and more manageable. The whole point will be global trading involving goods transfers. The margins will be smaller but volume will increase with China, India, Indonesia and Korea on board. The new structure can either be a short term money market or an asset that can be passed dow through the generations. Check out the buzz by googling Droobli II. You heard it here first. This time everything will work out well. Prepare to be amazed.

2513. Comment by kees | January 25th, 2010

      GroobLi UnOfficial now also on YouTube
      http://www.youtube.com/user/droobliunofficial

2514. Comment by Charlie | January 25th, 2010

      Dr.Reynolds you’ll get a urine sample when I piss on your grave, But seriously folks I don’t understand why people are still talking about Droobli,, It’s a bust! the gig is up, I simply hit this blog for a giggle now and then, And I don’t hate Beavis or anyone on this blog, I’ve never met Beavis or anyone on this site, I just enjoy the verbal spar,, I was is Droobli Briefly and I’m embarrassed that I ever got excited about it, If I’m wrong, somebody show me, come to Maui, I’ll be here the rest of my life, I’ll give you directions to my house, I’ll buy you dinner, Droobli is a big pile of Crap.

2515. Comment by B.J. | January 25th, 2010

      I got married on Maui on August 12, 2006. Fantastic.

2516. Comment by Kel Roche | January 25th, 2010

      I’m from the firm of Roche and Roche. We represent Droobli Worldwide. We ask people on this site to cease and desist. You are causing potential companies to have doubts about Droobli and that is unfair. You wouldn’t like a blog like this if you were in business. I’m giving you fair warning. We will smash all of you like walnuts. Stop it or else. Get your lawyers ready. You guys are going to jail!!!

2517. Comment by Eugene | January 26th, 2010

      Hmmm.

      “We will smash all of you like walnuts. Stop it or else.”

      Somehow, that doesn’t sound like legal-speak to me.

      Besides, isn’t this site hosted in the United States? Isn’t there something called “The First Amendment”?

2518. Comment by beavis | January 26th, 2010

      My attorney always says “now do you see’s it my way or do I have to shoot you’s in da utter knee cap?”

2519. Comment by Charlie | January 26th, 2010

      Kel Roche? To Funny, I still love this site, It’s like watching a scripted reality show, with new characters like “Kel Roche” The deep dark mystery attorney who’s going to get us, this is good stuff, my hat’s off to people that start these blogs.

2520. Comment by Howard 068 | January 26th, 2010

      What’s this Droobli II? Sounds like a winner and has a great business model. How do I sign up?

2521. Comment by beavis | January 26th, 2010

      You send me $3000 and I give you some “tokens” which you give away. Tell your friends. . .

2522. Comment by Morning Goldy Sun All Over | January 27th, 2010

      Droobli II? Go straight to Droobli VII. It’s in pre-launch as we speak. I’m telling you – this is gonna be big. Bigger than Droobli II and Droobli V added together!!!!!

2523. Comment by Kel Roche | January 27th, 2010

      No one has the right to criticize Droobli! If criticism didn’t exist Droobli would be lot bigger company than it is now. That isn’t fair. Bobby Jensen has to eat. The hammer is dropping.

2524. Comment by beavis | January 27th, 2010

      Kel Roche said:

      “The hammer is dropping.”

      Are you saying that we should start wearing our “hammer pants” lower in the waist? I just can’t keep up with these constant fashion changes. . .

2525. Comment by beavis | January 28th, 2010

      Here is a link on amazon.com’s 2009 4th quarter:

      http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=30188&tag=content;col1

      Over 9 B I L L I O N in sales. Come on; where is Jason Switzer to explain to us how Droobli is going to be bigger? The problem with Jason Switzer is his road to “financial freedom” leads you only to “freedom” as defined by Janis Joplin (“freedom’s just another word for nothing left to lose”).

2526. Comment by Jackson 4 | January 28th, 2010

      I’ve given up on droobli. It’s pathetic. I thought I was going to make money from it. At least I only lost a little. I know I alienated a few people. I’ll try to rebuild those relationships. I guess I was too keen to make it work. It’s kinda embarrassing. If I see Bobby Jensen coming i’ll give him a piece of my mind. That’s as angry as a middle-aged man with children and a mortgage can get.

2527. Comment by beavis | January 28th, 2010

      You could just rollover and say it was an expensive lesson learned or. . . you could man-up and make your up-line wish they never met you. Get in their face; publicly call them out on their actions; make them your bitch. They took your money; now take their’s. Kill their down-line; make their recruits their enemies; humiliate their worthless asses. Remember; for every dollar they cost you, cost them five. You may get eighty-sixed from wherever they hold a meeting but you will feel much better about yourself.

2528. Comment by Jackson 4 | January 29th, 2010

      I think I will. Thanks Beavis. I wish I could kill off Droobli altogether and all the other direct marketing schemes. People really do just want to be left alone. People will go to a store or a website if they want to shop. I know now that they don’t want the credit thing and paying 80 cents to look at a price. As a business idea it doesn’t make sense. I thought that when I heard it – even at a high powered presentation. But everyone was hoopin’ and hollerin’ like it was the Second Coming or something. I guess I was sucked into it. Now it just seems like such a stupid business idea that will never work. Why was I so stupid to get involved with Droobli. I regret the day I met Paul Smith who “sold me the dream”. Droobli is just a bad joke and I think most Droobli people realize that.

2529. Comment by Charlie | January 29th, 2010

      This Kel Roche guy is hilarious, “The Hammer is Dropping?” “No one has the right to criticize Droobli”?? By the way I looked it up there is no Lawyer in the U.S. with that name,

2530. Comment by beavis | January 29th, 2010

      By putting together some clues and a little detective work I’ve positively identified this “Kel Roche” as this guy from Oakland named Stanley Kirk Burrell.

      Here is a link about him:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MC_Hammer

2531. Comment by Charlie | January 30th, 2010

      HaHa that was good Beavis, I fell for it,

2532. Comment by LaLaLand | January 31st, 2010

      Thicko.

2533. Comment by Hey Let's ...... | January 31st, 2010

      Hey let’s get together and buy the Droobli assests !! I mean it’s gotta be a firesale !!??!! We could buy Droobliland and make a fortune. What about the Rolls-Royce they were going to give away? That’s gotta be around somewhere. Then there are all the computers, staplers, photocopiers, etc. We could make a killing.

      I don’t mean to pick over the ashes of the late, great droobli company, but there’s money to be made when all their equipment and stuff goes up for auction.

2534. Comment by The Road Warrior | January 31st, 2010

      GroobLi’s assets are to be sold on the US and EU auction portals.

      Things like staplers, pens and the knife that Bobby Jensen used to stab people in the back will all start at price of $500. Bidders can “click” to reveal the price. This will cost 80c. The price reduction will be controlled by a fuzzy logic “chaos” chip. Most items will hit $0 before anyone starts bidding as the “chaos” chip also has a flux capacitor and can get up to 88mph no problem.

      Also, at a recent UN convention, nuclear testing is to resume. When asked about the location of said testing, 100 country representatives were unanimous in hollering, “GroobLiland!”

2535. Comment by beavis | January 31st, 2010

      I want the sharks with laser beams! I want the sharks with laser beams!

2536. Comment by kees | February 1st, 2010

      Now also on YouTube:

      *Droobli’s advice: borrow money from your parents or grandparents*
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wvX4tMzmio

2537. Comment by George Phillips | February 1st, 2010

      Droobli has a basic flaw. We all know that the drooblidiots, in trying to make money off you by getting you to join, say “just click for 80 cents and get a huge discount”.

      But it’s not so simple. You don’t just check a price once for 80 cents and find the $100 item is now $50. That may happen but what about all the other times? You check and check and then someone gets the item before you. And then you check on another item and someone else gets it. And then you check another item. And then you check another item and maybe someday you get a discount price on something. But is it a discount??? How much did you pay to compete in the auction you didn’t win???

      People in Droobli, in reality, pay more than others for the same goods because of the times they checked prices (also known as ’spending 80 cents’).

      If a $10 000 item sells for $5000 how much have the Droobli bidders paid?

      They have paid 20 000 X 80 cents (that’s what it takes to reduce the price by $5000 (at 25 cents reduction for each 80 cents “invested”)) plus the $5000 some lucky person pays.

      So the group of Droobli people pay $21 000 for a $10 000 item. And you wondered why the guys who started Droobli are rich???

      Of course some money is paid back to “Business Associates” (another term for total losers and idiots. However, the money always filters upwards.

      So to all you drooblidiots – keep checking all those items and getting things “at a great discount”. You’ll pay dearly for the privilege.

      So Micheal Jensen (Droobli CEO) sits counting all the drooblidiot money, just quietly laughing to himself. Suckers!

2538. Comment by Franklin | February 1st, 2010

      Droobli affiliates. Ten points for effort. None for achievement.
      I get the horrible feeling that this entire page is full of comments from only two people under a large number of pseudonyms. One of them appears to have some kind of mental handicap, and the other is eaglescout.

2539. Comment by George Phillips | February 1st, 2010

      Droobli affiliates? Is that a grand term for people pinning their economic hopes on morons paying 80 cents to see a price? Hey, Franklin, do you pay 80 cents to see a price when you go shopping? Do you think that’s a “wonderful business model”? Why doesn’t any other company in the world charge people to find out what the prices are?

      In my business (yachting equipment), I can just see the customers’ faces if I charged 80 cents every time they asked me what the price was. Business would dry up rapidly. Oh, that’s what happened to Droobli? No wonder. People aren’t the idiots Bobby Jensen thinks they are.

2540. Comment by beavis | February 1st, 2010

      Bobby Jensen is really not that bright. He is half a step above a Drooblidiot.

2541. Comment by Only Facts | February 2nd, 2010

      Franklin.

      While it’s very true, most posts are not from the people we may think there from, and Eagle for some reason has abandoned his post, the fact remains that the evidence presented here can be check and verified relatively easily.

      On any Droobli forum, pro and or anti you will notice there is little action from the pro-Droobli. This could be because they have been advised not to participate in these forums, or more likely they can no longer argue the point. It’s easier just to bury their heads. Even our old mate Jamison, on his own Droobli forum site, has advised people to wait because there are some things his not happy with, and is awaiting verification from Droobli (the dreaded ticket). This post was made a few months back and still nothing. Sound familiar?

2542. Comment by beavis | February 2nd, 2010

      Jamison would blow a donkey if it would build his upline

2543. Comment by Louise | February 3rd, 2010

      Thank you to everyone (anti-Droobli and pro-Droobli). Until very recently I had never heard about Droobli until I was invited to hear about a business opportunity to make passive income that would make everyone involved ‘millions’.

      I was told that Droobli is huge in Europe and the US and would take off in Australia from the 1st of March but that this was the chance to get in before it became mega-big like ebay.
      They told us that Droobli was not network marketing because it didn’t require you to sign people up, and that it could be completely passive with no contact or effort required as advertising in the US would bring people in the US to buy tokens from our shopping mall in Australia. They made a point of saying that we shouldn’t pay attention to the anti-Droobli reviews on the web as most of these ultimately lead to a selling scheme of some sort (doesn’t seem to be the case here may I add).

      I admit I was intrigued by the possibility of making lots of money with so little effort but I’m a big believer of ‘if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is too good to be true’. Keeping an open mind, I tried to find an objective review or report by a reputable and credible source but everything so far is a sales pitch, with the exception of a few of these blogs. If this is so big and successful, shouldn’t there be some article by a respected source like Time or Bloomberg or something? Then I found this and some other blogs. I’ve had fun going through this blog and it’s really convinced me not to get involved with Droobli. While the facts helped, it really came down to the over-emotional, often uneducated sounding and incoherent rantings of some of the pro-Drooblis which really turning me off. Some of them (not all) sound remarkably similar to the over-religious crazy nuts who nearly always resort to ‘you’re going to burn in hell if you’re not with us’ as their final argument. Burn baby burn!

2544. Comment by beavis | February 3rd, 2010

      Did I say:

      “Jamison would blow a donkey if it would build his upline”?

      I meant “downline”

2545. Comment by Dr. Reynolds | February 3rd, 2010

      I want to get Louise’s urine sample. Just for my own curiosity.

2546. Comment by The Committee | February 3rd, 2010

      You have laughed at Droobli but no more. A worldwide media assault will launch tomorrow. There will be full page ads in every newspaper. Obama will endorse Droobli on the weekend. The Global launch is happening. Cash streams are flowing. This baby is viral. Tell everybody on the planet. Someone cover the Amazon. Everyone can be rich. Robots will do the work for Droobli BAs. Robot wives for ever Business Associate. The robot factory is hidden in Droobliland. The UN is relocating to Droobliland. Buy Droobli shares. When Bobby Jensen gets richer we all do. Bobby Jensen is not the anti-Christ. I assure you.

2547. Comment by beavis | February 3rd, 2010

      The Committee,

      Is my currency still good? Do I have enough time to convert it all to Droobli tokens (the new World Currency)? As I write this all of my TV channels are showing reruns of Droobli webinars.

2548. Comment by kees | February 3rd, 2010

      Some more questionable Droobli practises going on at their US site:

      “Droobli’s dubious testimonials – Business Associates portrayed as ‘ordinary’ happy customers”
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2WxIIVfejs

2549. Comment by The Bunker Boys | February 3rd, 2010

      All currencies will soon be invalid. A new currency will replace them with denominations of 25c, 80c, $1.60, $8.00 and $80.00. Bobby Jensen’s face will be on each note in the world currency.

2550. Comment by Tim Rice | February 3rd, 2010

      I’m working on a musical version of Droobli. I love the comedy and drama of this blog. I’m using some of the words here almost word for word. I’m looking for someone to play a “Gene McNeally-like” character. Also Bob is a natural basis for a go getter, uncaring exec trying to rip off friends and family. Charlie, the Maui recluse (too bad Brando’s dead)will figure in there somewhere. Bobby Jensen to be played by Steve Carrel.

      There’s a Virginia Tech scene where a drunken “Gene McNeally-like” character blows up a Droobli meeting in Droobliland after escaping airport security at the Droobliland Airport.

      Illegal immigrants kept as slaves in Droobliland are freed at the end of the film. Quantanomo is re-opened with Steve Carrell as the only prisoner there.

      This has got blockbuster written all over it.

2551. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 3rd, 2010

      After the announcement that nuclear testing is to resume using Droobliland as ground zero, the Droobliland reprensentative did object.

      He was quoted as saying, “No-one can kill Droobli. It’s too big. It’s already breached the fabric of spacetime. The known universe is too small to contain the beast that is Droobli. Long live Droobli. New launch in March!”

      He then threw down a smoke bomb, intent on creating the dramatic magician-like effect of vanishing.

      When the smoke cleared, he was still there

2552. Comment by beavis | February 3rd, 2010

      Can I sing “The Impossible Dream” during the opening credits?

2553. Comment by Kel Roche | February 3rd, 2010

      You guys are really busting my chops. Heads will roll for this mimicry. Any Droobli people who find this coarse jesting offensive please ring my New York office. No one should have to put up with this folly.

      I’m your worst nightmare!

2554. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 3rd, 2010

      Hey Kel, have you ever thought about changing your name to Cock?

2555. Comment by Gene | February 3rd, 2010

      Come now eagle what’s this all about? You go out of your way to put a link on the Internet like the one below. Boy I must have done some damage to your sales. Or should I say clicks. Who knows maybe I helped you. I don’t care.Thanks for the name recognition although false. How can you claim Chaga is worthless. Also none of my statements said anything about curing. You know that. Of course we all know you say all kinds of garbage about many things on this idiotic blog. Anything you choose is fair play to you no matter what. Let’s give me some equal time on the subject and let the people decide who is telling the truth. After all you’re using my name!

      This blog reports, Gene McNeally is the worst. He feeds off the carcasses of cancer victims so he can sell his worthless chaga mushrooms. He claims to be a good old Seventh Day Adventist. (whether good or bad that’s up to God don’t you think?)

      thespinfactorcom/thetruth/comments/feed

      Siberian Chaga

      The primary active compounds discovered in Siberian Chaga are a variety of … Siberian Chaga, unlike the other medicinal mushrooms has an exceptional …
      http://www.liveliberty.ws/Nature

2556. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 3rd, 2010

      Gene – do you make a profit from selling mushrooms to cancer patients or not?

      JUST ANSWER THAT ONE QUESTION WITH A YES OR A NO….PLEASE

2557. Comment by kees | February 3rd, 2010

      Another BA throws in the towel:

      http://ugottadothis.com/2010/02/how-to-get-great-deals-on-droobli/
      some quotes:
      (please read the whole post for proper context, as this soon to be EX Droobli BA isn’t totally negative about Droobli)

      —————-
      February 4th, 2010 by ugottadothis

      Soon, I will be writing a post about why I intend to quit Droobli.
      {…}
      They are often slow to ship, the credit card transaction must originate in a foreign country because I am always charged a small FX fee, the tracking of shipments is non-existent, and the customer service regarding orders is less than steller.
      {…}
      Here’s what is actually happening: Droobli Business Associates who still have a lot of credits and who do not plan to renew their licenses are clicking prices down to unbelieveable levels so that they can get SOME value out of their droobli investment.
      {…}
      If a former business associate goes in late at night and starts clicking on a $200 giftcard and gets it for $0.00, those credits that she used were worth $200. If she does nothing with them, they are worth $0.00.
      {…}
      The thing is that, unlike in Xpress, a lot of business associates trying for the same item in Unique Bid actually DECREASES the chance of a normal customer getting a good price.
      {…}
      As for this site, I will begin posting information about other opportunities and other ventures.
      {…}
      Stay tuned for my post about my experience as a droobli business associate and why I am quitting.
      —————-

2558. Comment by Genome | February 4th, 2010

      Gene McNeally from Nebraska is an idiot. The guy has lost it. His community college education has been distilled to incoherent ravings. The guy is classic Droobli. A moron who can’t figure out that the entire planet thinks it’s stupid to pay 80 cents to have a look at the price of something.

      Only a moron would call that a great business model!!

      Then we find he thinks he’s some great e-commerce Internet businessperson. He chaga mushrooms claiming they cure cancer. He sells discount air tickets or so he claims. The guy is an absolute jerk.

      Gene McNeally is the biggest creep on the Internet. Stay away from him. Money is his God. I’m sick of what he does to his family.

      And Gene, this is a free blog site. Any money from advertising goes to the sponsors of this blog. You sure know a lot about the Internet! Even the occasional Droobli ad! Gene, when you open your mouth you show your ignorance. Intellectually you haven’t got it.

2559. Comment by LaLaLand | February 4th, 2010

      You’re all the same person, aren’t you? Get a life!

2560. Comment by Gene | February 4th, 2010

      Yeah you guys are a bunch of creeps. And what if I do help cancer patients what’s it to you RW? Genome what sand box are you spouting from?

2561. Comment by Blor Svenson | February 4th, 2010

      Does everyone remeber Aaron. The Aussie guy who was going to stop ‘working for the man’ and make millions with Droobli? Wher is he now?

      “i was just doing more research when i came across this crap. most of the people on here will never see the big picture. if pyrimids are so wrong and against the law, what do u call a normal job where the employer works for the boss and the boss makes all the profit??? If droobli is so bad, i have had a few of the biggest barristers sign up and they have spent weeks doing research on droobli.

      i wish everyone the best and i will be looking down at you from the top. Regards, Aaron”

      Thanks Aaron. He’s lost his money no doubt. But more importantly, he’s lost his friends and divided his family. MLM schemes or direct marketing are anti-family.

2562. Comment by Kyle | February 4th, 2010

      Gene has really lost it. Man, it’s sad to see the meltdown of a human being. He didn’t have much to begin with! He really believes he’s helping humanity by selling (not buying and then donating), worthless mushrooms to dying people. They are a good customer base. They’ll believe anything because they have nothing to lose. Well done, Gene, to find desparate people to market to. Are you really a Christian?

2563. Comment by Bob | February 4th, 2010

      Amazing investigative work Kees.

      Here’s something you may not have caught though:
      I just saw this info going around today:

      You won’t believe your eyes and ears when you watch these videos.

      Everyone in GroobLi knew that Dan Gibbons (Sales Director) beat astronomical odds by winning the Mustang GT in September (or at least associated with the person). He is seen in this video produced, by GroobLi:

      http://www.youtube.com/v/YOKM1-tcb8k&hl=de&fs=1&rel=0

      But it really turned some heads when HE won another $52,000 BMW especially when the auction ”crashed” 10 minutes before the auction ended, and nobody could place bids.

      http://www.youtube.com/v/0ACugyVwoK8&hl=de&fs=1&rel=0

      The excuse is (from Droobli) there were so many people bidding that it crashed.

      Lucky Dan

      Another twist:

      When you listen to the webinars from these associates: http://www.duba2z.com they brag that there was 9 million dollars spent on the Harley Davidson in April 2009. (It did not crash then).

      That would equal 10.8 million credits. There were approx 4000 GroobLi associates at the time (in the US). The average credit package (at the time) was 3550 credits (between 1100 and 6000).

      According to them there were 3042.25 credits expended per associate and their customers. Every associate was excited enough to spend maybe 500 credits (they were told to hold on to them).

      Since there were hardly any customers at the time they have defecated all over themselves with that assertion. And defecated on themselves even more thinking that it would impress anyone.

2564. Comment by Only Facts | February 4th, 2010

      Hey Gene.

      Have you tried selling leeches?
      Send me 70 cents and I’ll tell you how much they are. I even give a price guarantee. In fact send me $2000 and I’ll let you charge people 70 cents for the price. It’s Ok the leeches are only a hook to get people to go to our shopping porthole which sells Witch burning devices, ground Rhino horn and the like.

      Seriously Gene if you spent as much time on your business as you do with this rubbish, who knows. You may still have a business.

      Here in Australia we have an indigenous remedy call VB. Try it; in fact try a lot of it.

2565. Comment by Only Facts | February 4th, 2010

      Bob.

      Your a legend. Love your work!

2566. Comment by Gene | February 4th, 2010

      Should we take everything off the market that helps people Kyle? Or should we just give everything away for free? How long do you think that could last? How could I possible give it away? I pay for it myself.

      What stupid reasoning? I help make it available. I am seriously interest in bringing health back to people. If they are helped then they have a long productive life, right? If someone has a disease and are given the right nutrition and become well that’s just not acceptable for you Kyle? Is that how you would do your mom and dad? Why don’t you buy from me and give it away? That would be a great idea. Man you’ve got room to talk. I think you’ve lost it.

2567. Comment by Gene | February 4th, 2010

      Still a cesspool blog and Bob pretending.

2568. Comment by Gene | February 4th, 2010

      Hey OF have you really looked at the facts about Chaga? Of course not!

      You just tear things apart like a little boy of 2 in a sand box.

      What about this garbage that MLM lead system pro is putting out. Have you checked into that.

      They are supposed to help all us marketers with sales after they tear down our businesses.

      Are you with them creeps?

2569. Comment by Only Facts | February 4th, 2010

      Gene

      Just because I don’t come onto this site jumping up and down about other scams doesn’t mean I don’t do anything about them. Not sure if you are aware of this Gene but this is a GROOBLI forum. System pro is so obviously rubbish I am surprised your not a gold member.

      If Bob is pretending it was very silly, as his words are now on other anti-droobli sites and are being used as an example about those leaving Droobli (and there are a lot).

      As far as the mushrooms yes I have looked into it. I struggle to find an actual credible article, just hear say with a lot of “may help”, “helps reduce” etc. Just like diet supplements will help with weight loss used in conjunction with exercise, please. Do you really think if it was legit it would not be on very pharmacists shelf? In every doctors bag? Covered by health insurance companies? And no you should not charge for them. Anyone that makes money from the suffering of others, with nothing more than a placebo is the lowest form of life, ask Andy Kaufman. Ellen White would be ashamed of you.

      You have proven time and again your intelligence matches that of you beloved Change, so discussions with you are pointless. On that note I will not lower myself to responded to you any further. Just think of this from time to time when you are alone. How can a man whom you have never met that lives on the other side of the world have so much distain for you. Gene, re-think your life, re-think you values and most of all re-think the negative effect you have on people.

2570. Comment by Kyle | February 4th, 2010

      Gene wonders why even his dog hates him. You’re an idiot. You hide behind your SDA stuff. Jesus is returning to Earth and you’d better hide. You filthy, evil man. You try to profit off cancer !!! How do you sleep at night?

2571. Comment by beavis | February 4th, 2010

      You all need to lighten up on Gene. Calling him names and saying things like “his dog hates him” are just wrong. He probably had a tough childhood and just needs a little guidance. He reminds me of another guy named Charles Milles Maddox; another similarly misguided individual. You just need some compassion.

2572. Comment by kees | February 4th, 2010

      Bob, thanks for that info.
      It’s funny you mention Dan Gibbons, as he was actually next on my ‘investigation list’ (because he was another BA than won a huge prize – the BMW), and I have seen both those videos you mention, and I was wondering already if that guy in the first video (where Kourtney Swift won the Mustang) was also Dan Gibbons, but I wasn’t sure… now I am

      I’ll look into those duba2z.com webinars soon as well, thanks again Bob.

2573. Comment by Marie McGregor | February 5th, 2010

      ‘Gene McNeally from Nebraska sells worthless chaga mushrooms’. So what? Lots of people sell fraudulent stuff. Gene is just one more crook. Big deal. What can I say? Some people will do anything for money.

2574. Comment by Don't Worry About it | February 5th, 2010

      I agree with Ms. McGregor. Why are you stupid people worried about all this stuf? It’s just business. Social Darwinism. Join Droobli then bring in the suckers. They deserve what they get as long as you make money. We’re all adults, right? People can afford to lose a bit of their cash. I see no problem taking money off people. I look out for Number 1. What are you doing?

2575. Comment by Gene | February 5th, 2010

      Just look at the facts missy it’s helping people all over the world. Chaga is GOOOOD No fraud here LOL.

      All kinda studies. Buy some from me.

2576. Comment by Gene | February 5th, 2010

      OF you are not credible. Sand box mentality. You’ve proven it time and again with your miss leading accusations and unfounded innuendos about someone half a world away you don’t even know and you smear people using religion and lies about mentality and character. These types of people show all the indications of those who are unable to create viable arguments without fallacy showing no compunctions with culpability. You haven’t looked at anything you lying Parrot. Just making content for a failed blog. With pretenders who jump in the fray as well as yourself. Just get a job. Buy my stuff and give it away if you like. You know it works. Don’t you have any compassion? Sure you talk about others what about you? Do you work for the AMA? Are you into evolution or something? Don’t you understand that a God of compassion provided in nature things to keep us healthy? Many just don’t know it or haven’t cared until they get sick. Many suffer needlessly. But you want everyone to get drugs which don’t cure but hide symptoms. That makes me sick. You want cancer patients to suffer under slash and burn techniques don’t you instead of gentle methods God provided. It may take a little time but you have to understand it took time to get into a diseased state. Yeah people like you will do anything to keep people sick unemployed and generally disturbed like yourself. Does it make you feel every bit better to make others miserable like Only Facts? Yeah you want to malign me but the truth will come out. Hey people put yourself in my shoes. You can see what these people are doing. Don’t buy it. There is a couple of ways to look at this. Maybe more. This blog simply wants attention for who knows what reason. Certainly their ad words come into play. Just don’t bother clicking their links. First they’ll give you a problem with a company then they’ll try to give you a solution like MLM LeadSystemPro does. They seem to advertise on this blog very much. One thing is sure. I’ve been honest enough to give my name. Tell us your OF. We’ll have to check into your religion if you have one.With the companies I promote we don’t hide behind a lot of hype until we find out even the name of a company. You guys better stop using my name falsely. You’ve been warned. Leech is you. Oh you might get Chaga for free. Just take a hike up to Russia and harvest it yourself.

2577. Comment by Chris | February 5th, 2010

      Lot’s of tension on this thread. I am A Droobli BA for almost a year now. We have Reps under us and many customers. Might sound good, its not…. This company has some serious issues. Primary issue is no customer support, no phone number, no home office. BIG PROBLEM. Just to let you all know, Droobli has apparently opened their corporate office on Feb 1st, in the US, in Boco Raton, FL.

      here is the address Boca Center Tower 1
      5200 Town Center Circle, Suite 601
      Boca Raton, Florida 33486

      Guess what the good news is? I live one hours from their. And yes, I will go and report back to all of you soon.

2578. Comment by Don't Worry About it | February 5th, 2010

      No one cares Chris. People have to lose their money somehow. Why not spend it mindlessly clicking prices? Who cares?

      So Chris you have reps under you? You’ve just admitted that Droobli is a pyramid scheme. Droobli advertises that there is no one under anyone else. They say no one needs to persuade anyone to join because the discounts speak for themselves. People will click and you’ll make money.

      So Chris, why are you saying you have many customers? They aren’t your customers, unless the whole thing is a pyramid scheme.

      But I couldn’t care less. People like Gene deserve to be ripped off.

2579. Comment by who cares | February 5th, 2010

      Droobli 1% Lying…sponsored by http://www.OnlineMLMSecrets.com/a/droobli.html don’t buy it. The secret is they will secretly take your money.

      Another guy. He says

      The Top 1% Won’t Share Their Secret On Earning $50k Monthly, But I Am.
      http://www.OnlineMLMSecrets.com/Droobli

      Yes this is a good example. See how they ride the backs of other companies.

      Pretender don’t you see they destroy businesses. Then they offer solutions. Bogus. And you want to lend credence to this blog when you’re in your position because they tried to cripple your business. Wow. Use logic man.

      No-MLM-Headaches.com

      These guys are preying on MLM marketers who are down on their luck. How despicable. Don’t fall for it.

      This guy tells you

      I Quit For a More Lucrative Model. Now CEO’s Envy My Success. See How.
      No-MLM-Headaches.com

      Another tactic they use is to pit the compition against you. http://www.for10cents.com/index.html someone is going to sit around all day and watch for pennies. PLEASE if I want it I just spend 80 cents to see the price and buy it then and there. I don’t have to worry about somebody else buying it. When the buy now comes up I can buy. It’s as easy as that.

      Listen folks there couldn’t be a more lucrative model than what I have.

      Let’s dry up the money on this blog. They are liars.

2580. Comment by beavis | February 5th, 2010

      Let’s all get our torches and wooden stakes. . . we have to get to their coffins before the sun sets. . .

2581. Comment by SEOJoe | February 5th, 2010

      Droobli is a scam of a massive proportion. I did a research on this company and wrote an article http://www.powerfulcms.com/blog/1002/droobli-business-model. In a nutshell they are a glorified online casino, luring unsuspecting consumers on the notion of Low prices, getting lower.

      For their SEO competition, I wonder if you can request $5000-$10,000 for maintaining this spot for search of Droobli term in #2 spot.

2582. Comment by SEOJoe | February 5th, 2010

      here is the link to the SEO competition mentioned above http://seo.droobli.com/

2583. Comment by Hygiene | February 5th, 2010

      Hi Gene (posing as “who cares”. You keep repeating the same thing about Droobli:

      “PLEASE if I want it I just spend 80 cents to see the price and buy it then and there. I don’t have to worry about somebody else buying it. When the buy now comes up I can buy. It’s as easy as that.”

      No, Gene, you moron, it isn’t that simple. You act like all Droobli shoppers click for 80 cents and find something at a really low price and buy it. But dear Gene, we’re not all morons like you. For someone to get a low price lots of someone elses have to lose lots of money. Now, mathematically Gene, everyone has a much higher chance of being the someone elses. It means thatg most people will lose lots of money clicking and will miss out on buying.

      But Gene, what about the scam elements with Droobli? For example, Droobli executives winning the main auction “prizes” like cars for incredibly low prices after Droobli mysteriously crashes???? Doesn’t bother you??? What about someone getting a $200 Visa card for 0.00 cents??? So someone clicked on it at 50 cents and thought it was too expensive? I mean they spent 80 cents to find out the price was 50 cents and then, supposedly, thought the $200 Visa card was too expensive at 50 cents. And you want us to believe that Gene??? And you say the big Christian Gene is going to keep promoting a company with such scams????

      Gene, all of us here wonder how you sleep at night??? You claim to be a Christian but then you show you have no conscience. If you’re a Christian you wouldn’t be in Droobli. End of story.

2584. Comment by fake eaglescout - 98899700773@gmail.com 124.185.198.85 | February 5th, 2010

      Gene McNeally, this blog makes no money for me. I’m too cheap to pay for a blog site so I get a free one. The company sells little ads at the bottom of the page. I make no money from this blog. Anyway, why would you be concerned if I did? Aren’t you an Internet billionaire? That’s what you tell people.

2585. Comment by beavis | February 5th, 2010

      Dumb
      Ugly
      Bastards
      Lying
      Intentionally

2586. Comment by Bob "Open Fly" Phillips | February 5th, 2010

      Let’s get a group of us together and go over and confront Gene McNeally. It shouldn’t be hard to find his address. It’s time he’s forced to own up to all the crap he does. Nothing violent, though. Unless he starts something.

2587. Comment by posing | February 6th, 2010

      Eagle it’s too bad you aren’t making any money in the little ads you sell at the bottom of the page, you don’t deserve it do you? Why don’t you do an honest business like I do? What about the top page ads tricky guy? Why do you try to stop sales for all kinds of other businesses. Like, “Herbal Life a No No” as an example in one of your ads. You ever hear about nutrition?

      And why do you love my name and use it with lies? Why have you posted my name in so many posts with lies? You don’t like honest people? Christians? You don’t have my permission to do that. But you do it anyway. Is that Christian? Or simply moral or ethical? Keeping me from the billions you lie about me making. And hygiene, tisk tisk you save in the Xpress auction the first time you bid and buy. Where have you been? Didn’t you know there is a guaranteed lowest price on the Internet?

      Eagle you’re not a real winner! What can I do to help you?

      I’ll check in once in a while see if you straighten out.

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2588. Comment by beavis | February 6th, 2010

      Gene is giving me a headache. Two things you need to do Gene; complete every sentence and, most importantly, have a point. A continuous train of thought would be immensely helpful, too.

2589. Comment by posing | February 6th, 2010

      beav we must come down to your level so you can understand.

2590. Comment by Only Facts | February 6th, 2010

      Posing
      what are you trying to say?

2591. Comment by beavis | February 6th, 2010

      Only Facts,
      What “posing” (aka “gene”) is saying is. . . is. . . is. . . um. . . OK. . . I really have no clue. . . not even the slightest. . .

2592. Comment by posing | February 7th, 2010

      OFB I see!

2593. Comment by Bob "Open Fly" Phillips | February 7th, 2010

      I never understand Gene McNeally’s posts. Does he understand them? He’s just freakily weird. I’m intending to take Mrs McNeally ballroom dancing. Anything to get her away from the monster she’s married to.

2594. Comment by Dr. Reynolds | February 7th, 2010

      I want to get Bob Phillip’s urine sample. Just for my own curiosity.

2595. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 7th, 2010

      I want to get Dr Reynolds’ urine sample. Just for my own curiosity.

2596. Comment by Realist | February 7th, 2010

      Eagle Scout wrote…..

      “The current CEO and founder, Bobby Jensen, marketed ACN in Denmark and managed firms that bankrupted during his involvement.”

      I Say

      Oh my god!! gee this guy must be in the business of creating businesses and bankrupting them on purpose! (because that is obviously more profitable that creating a business model that works… ha )
      Failure goes hand in hand with success you imbecile. All this tells me is that if anything he is more educated having made mistakes and learning from them in the past.

      Eagle scout wrote

      “Santi Fuentes, Carlos Oestby, were at one point heavily involved in GroobLi (as management/staff). They are no longer there as of very recently.”

      I Say

      Yeah….. and….. Sorry I don’t understand why you wrote this. So what you are trying to say is, Santi Fuentes & Carlos Oestby are dodgy characters. So isn’t the fact that they are no longer involved in Droobli, actually a positive thing for the future of Droobli?

      If you go to http://www.otcbb.com/ and look up MEDG you will come to understand that MediocreNet who owns Droobli is actually listed under code MEDG. If you have real concerns for citizens getting involved in Droobli, you better call up the OTC BB and ask to speak to their regulations department. Tell them that you are a qualified blogger and you have some interesting information that you think they must of missed when they went through MediocreNet group. Then wait for them to laugh. Then feel your depleted self esteem. Then move onto your next anti progress campaign.

      After you recover from this, go to the shopping section on Droobli and start at the top of the 800+ massive retailers that pay to advertise on droobli(have you heard of BP, Macy’s, K Mart or Bloomingdales?) Call them and tell and tell them they have made a BIG mistake!! Tell them you have a degree in poo kicking and they should read your blog. Then wait for them to laugh, then feel the depleted self esteem again. Then cry. The call your mum up and ask her to come over and comfort you.

      Eagle Scout wrote

      “Statistically, GroobLi can earn you ~90 dollars out of your 3000 dollar investment.”

      I Say

      WTF?! ummmm can you elaborate? Like, by saying what you mean please?

      Now to buying stuff on Droobli.

      If you actually did a bit or real research you would come to realise that Droobli has a lowest price guarantee. This means that if you are actually in the market to purchase a product that is offered on Droobli, you are guaranteed the lowest price.

      As for all the failed BA’s who didn’t realize that once they bought into Droobli they would actually have to do some work and introduce people. Yes these dopes are looking for a way to convert their 800 – 5000 useless credits into cash by over clicking and adding to some statistical confusion. I bet you were one of them Eagle scout.

      I have been a BA for 3 months. In that time I have made thousands of dollars in commissions both residual and by way of introducing BA’s. I have introduced countless customers who have bought and received great products from Droobli, at a price unmatchable by any local store. These people have thanked me and are grateful for me showing them through the site.

      Yes there are some people who click away without buying products and waste countless credits on Unique Bid. These people get little value out of using Droobli. Do I feel guility ? NO! its their choice! Who am I to tell them what to do in their free time?

      If you are truly concerned about making a difference in the world there are better places to start that with these credit wasters. Join a community program to help homeless children or victims of sexual harassment and/or drug abuse. Sponsor a starving child in Africa or get on the global warming band wagon.

      I love a good debate, So I respect you opinions and look forward to a response with some weight and supporting facts, to refute any facts I have stated here.

2597. Comment by Kyle | February 7th, 2010

      So Realist is going to sort us all out? So you introduced a lot of people to Droobli? You mean you badgered them to join something they didn’t want to.

      You state Droobli has the guaranteed lowest prices? Now they don’t make anything. But buy it as a middleman from companies who do make things. They then must pay transport, etc costs. I don’t believe that then Droobli can offer the lowest price than the manufacturers. More spin, more lies.

      As far as big companies advertizing. It’s not an endorsement. Big companies have to advertize everywhere. They advertize in many newspapers, magazines, etc. In no way is that an endorsement of those publications. Why is Droobli making a big deal out of attracting these big companies? Makes me suspicious as to why Droobli has to have things to make it look legit.

      I want the names and cell phone numbers of the people you claim you have “helped”. Let’s call them and ask them about you and their Droobli experience. I think they might have something different to say.

      You just need to put a positive spin on Droobli because you stand to lose money when it fails.

      How did you get so many dopes to pay 80 cents to check a price? It doesn’t work and will never will. People aren’t that stupid. Especially when they realize that someone is making 2.5 times the actual price of things. I’m glad you’re ripping off Droobli BAs like that. They’re the only people using up crummy credits to check prices. You are basically ripping off the people you lovingly bring into the Droobli fold. They must love you. Many times they use 80 cent credits to check prices but never get anything. Great, fun way to shop.

      Basically we hate scams. Multilevel Marketing Schemese divide churches, familes and friends. They spoil family outings and relationships with neighbors. It creates tensions between people particularly when the dream goes sour.

      I don’t need Droobli to help me shop. There are already enough stores – both online and real. Droobli is just a waste of time and resources. How’s your mansion in Droobliland going?

2598. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 7th, 2010

      Realist, it’s going to be fun watching history teach you it’s relentless lesson. You said you’ve been a BA for 3 months? Oh, that’s wonderful news. It’s like having a front row seat to failure.

      Read the posts here. All 2597 of them. There is a subtle undertone that mant people might miss. And that is…there are BA’s who have spouted the sort of nonsense you have allowed to dribble from your fingers. Those who have been BAs for a similar amount of time.

      Now you sound pretty smart (in that sleazy, “I’ll screw anyone” kind of way). It’s not surprising that you have made thousands off the unfortunate stupidity of others who don’t take the time to research schemes with an open mind.

      But the point is this. As time passes, those BAs have either disappeared from sight (likely from sheer embarrassment) or have publically renounced GroobLi (as Bob did).

      So you sell your licences to sell licences and make what you can off that. It will dry up as soon as even the stupid among us work out that the auctions are infrequently visited disappointmenting piles of steaming white dog poo. Do you tell your downline suckers exactly what the traffic volumes are for US and EU GroobLi auction sites? I bet you don’t.

      Of course, there are exceptions such as Gene who has campaigned for and supported GroobLi since near the start of this blog. But knowledge and information surfaced about him that sets him apart from anything decent and human.

      So, Realist, I hope you stay here and debate for a while yet so we can all watch and grin when the absolute failure that is GroobLi’s business plan catches up and buries you.

      And it will.

2599. Comment by Realist | February 8th, 2010

      Kyle wrote

      “You state Droobli has the guaranteed lowest prices? Now they don’t make anything. But buy it as a middleman from companies who do make things. They then must pay transport, etc costs. I don’t believe that then Droobli can offer the lowest price than the manufacturers. More spin, more lies.”

      I say

      I don’t even think you have ever shopped on Droobli. You actually have to pay the postage yourself. Do your homework. Not to mention manufacturers rarely sell to the public and when they do, they do so in a fashion that doesn’t compete with and undermine the RRP’s of their cherished retailers. It’s cute how you wrote “More Spin, more lies” at the end. You know because the site is called spin factor and all, was that like a PUN or something?

      Kyle Wrote

      How did you get so many dopes to pay 80 cents to check a price?

      I say

      Ummm, well it all started when they decided they actually wanted to buy the product they were about to spend the 80c on. Then they realized that either way they were guaranteed the lowest price, EVEN if they were the first to click. Then they spend the 80cents (it doesn’t seem like so much when your not on welfare) and they were pleasantly surprised to find they generally saved another 5 – 30%. Thus making the 80cents they spent worth usually 20 times its weight in savings.
      Now, now, before you say it, I know that in order for them to save 5 – 30% lots of other poor people must have lost money boo hoo! Those people shouldn’t have clicked if they didn’t want to buy, should they?
      Then they paid their postage ([please read above if you still don’t understand the postage idea). That’s about the whole process. Except they aren’t actually dopes like you say. They are smart because they are saving money

      Road Warrior wrote

      “Read the posts here. All 2597 of them. There is a subtle undertone that many people might miss.”

      I say

      He he…. you said subtle.. I like your comedic sarcasm.

      Ummmmm did you know that Droobli has roughly 5 million customers world wide. So lets just be conservative and say that the average person on this site has posted only twice. That would make only 1500 bloggers.. Don’t forget I am being conservative here.
      So we have 1500 people. Out of those 1500 lets assume 80% are negative about Droobli leaving 1200 wingers.

      5,000,000 / 1200 = 0.02% !!!!!! That’s a small number really don’t you think. I mean it doesn’t really carry so much weight does it?

      Road warrior wrote

      “Do you tell your downline suckers exactly what the traffic volumes are for US and EU GroobLi auction sites? I bet you don’t.”

      I say

      Who cares what the figures are. Even if it was so, that currently half the people on Droobli are BA’s. Don’t forget BA’a are people too, and they buy products as well. I am a BA and I bought a camera last week. This is a recruitment stage Droobli is going through. It makes sense that there are statistically high numbers of BA’s using Droobli at the moment.

      Road Warrior said

      “So, Realist, I hope you stay here and debate for a while yet so we can all watch and grin when the absolute failure that is GroobLi’s business plan catches up and buries you.”

      I say

      Thanks for the invite. I may stay for a while.
      How could Droobli’s business plan catch up with me and bury me? Worst case scenario, let’s say Droobli tanks tomorrow, I am still financially up. I would just carry on with my life.

      On a serious note, In conclusion. I respect your opinions and am enjoying the debate. The honest truth is I am now better off having being introduced to Droobli. I have saved money and have made money. I have had many friends thank me for introducing them to Droobli who have also had good experiences. This is fact guys, not fiction. Having said that I am sure that many people have wasted time and money on Droobli both as customers and BA’s. Like any business Droobli is not for everyone.

2600. Comment by Kyle | February 8th, 2010

      Dear Realist,

      You wrote: :Ummm, well it all started when they decided they actually wanted to buy the product they were about to spend the 80c on. Then they realized that either way they were guaranteed the lowest price, EVEN if they were the first to click. Then they spend the 80cents (it doesn’t seem like so much when your not on welfare) and they were pleasantly surprised to find they generally saved another 5 – 30%.”

      This is illogical. Who were all the other people who spent money to bring the prices down 30%? They were also Droobli BAs looking for a bargain but all they did was waste 80 cents a time to check prices.

      What about the $200 Visa cards that go for 25 cents or even o cents on Droobli? Explain why someone who wanted the $200 Visa card clicked on to check the price and finding it was $1, decided not to buy because it was presumably too expensive? Then another drooblidiot clicks (spenind 80 cents) and finds the $200 Visa card is now 75 cents but passes on buying it because he thinks it was too expensive. Then another Drooblidiot spends 80 cents to see that the price is 50cents. But does he buy it? No, apparently he passes up the opportunity because it’s too expensive.

      These are real auction results. Do you really expect anyone to believe they happened? Is it that Droobli just attract morons anyway?

      Clearly those auctions didn’t happen. That’s called fraud. Droobli is rotten to the core. Don’t try to put your lying spin on it.

2601. Comment by Kyle | February 8th, 2010

      By the way, Realist – you haven’t supplied the phone numbers of anyone you’ve claimed to have helped.

      I think you’re a liar and completely friendless. Droobli is social poison.

      Now what about the cell phones numbers. I’ll call all of them.

      The challenge is over to you. Put up or shut up. Also, let me know your name so I can mention it when talking to them. Looking forward to your next post.

2602. Comment by Bo Harrison | February 8th, 2010

      Realist: “Ummmmm did you know that Droobli has roughly 5 million customers world wide.”

      5 million customers? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

      Do you see how many unique customers Droobli really has? Haven’t you read the posts here (with links provide) which shows Droobli customer base is in the thousands. Also, very few auctions are actually completed.

      Did you know that in three years Droobli Europe gave $5000 to charity? My McDonald’s gives that in about 6 months. Droobli is smaller than my local McDonald’s. You really do believe Droobli lies. Check your facts and also where are the names Kyle asked you for?

2603. Comment by "Diamond James" Collins | February 8th, 2010

      I’ll go further than Kyle Mr. Realist. If I give you my email address would you provide scans of the checks you’ve received from Droobli? Showing your “profit”? I doubt you’ve hardly made anything from Droobli. I, too, think you’re a liar.

2604. Comment by Paul Enfield | February 8th, 2010

      Some challenges there Realist. Hundreds of anti-Droobli people are waiting for you to provide evidence to support your outrageous claims. Are you going to show us the evidence?

2605. Comment by Realist | February 8th, 2010

      I can’t believe you are demanding names. I ignored that part because I though Kyle was joking when he asked.

      Why the hell would I breach the privacy of my friends and loyal customers and give their private details to someone I don’t even know? That would never happen. So drop it. Even If I did and you spoke to them, once they told you what you didn’t want to hear you would just say they were making it up anyway.

      Please show me the link proving Droobli’s customer base is only in the thousands….. I don’t have the patience to go through the whole blog.

      Kyle wrote
      This is illogical. Who were all the other people who spent money to bring the prices down 30%? They were also Droobli BAs looking for a bargain but all they did was waste 80 cents a time to check prices.

      Arent you listening!!!! its already a bargain to start with!!!!!! get with the program!!! Its guaranteed lowest price to start with!!!!!! don’t you understand?!!!!

      Kyle wrote
      What about the $200 Visa cards that go for 25 cents or even o cents on Droobli?

      Yes yes I know, I explained this before, we are going around in circles… are you even reading my stuff?? see below again

      I previously wrote
      “As for all the failed BA’s who didn’t realize that once they bought into Droobli they would actually have to do some work and introduce people. Yes these dopes are looking for a way to convert their 800 – 5000 useless credits into cash by over clicking and adding to some statistical confusion.

      This is tiring.

2606. Comment by Realist | February 8th, 2010

      Paul Enfield wrote
      Some challenges there Realist. Hundreds of anti-Droobli people are waiting for you to provide evidence to support your outrageous claims. Are you going to show us the evidence?

      I say
      100’s or maybe 4… ha

2607. Comment by Only Facts | February 8th, 2010

      Wow realist.

      What can I say?

      You brought up some very valid points! Well they were valid 3 months ago, 6 months ago, 12 months ago before they were slammed into the realm of fantasy. I’m guessing you are one of these BA’s that spent so much time undertaken your “Due Diligence”, but cannot be bothered reading past posts that have already proven your fairy tales incorrect. Let me guess you are too busy to read so many posts………heard that one to. Answer me this, what do you think about Rik McCoy? What do you think about the many, many, many auctions that end at 0. My god there are a “few” BA’s just dumping credits. What do you think about your saviour suggesting you borrow money from your grandparents to join?

      You are making money selling packages, admit it. As far as the lowest price guaranteed, please. Try looking on the countless other sites out there. Wrong again. N ow before you continue, make sure you actually know what you’re talking about. Serious. Bring one point to the table at let the rest of us prove you wrong. I’ve brought a couple, prove me wrong. I’ve been involved with this for 12 months and seen it all, argued it all and fought against it all. Your 3 months are just repeating, repeating and repeating, Droobli crap.
      Wow realist.

      What can I say?

      You brought up some very valid points! Well they were valid 3 months ago, 6 months ago, 12 months ago before they were slammed into the realm of fantasy. I’m guessing you are one of these BA’s that spent so much time undertaken your “Due Diligence”, but cannot be bothered reading past posts that have already proven your fairy tales incorrect. Let me guess you are too busy to read so many posts………heard that one to. Answer me this, what do you think about Rik McCoy? What do you think about the many, many, many auctions that end at 0. My god there are a “few” BA’s just dumping credits. What do you think about your saviour suggesting you borrow money from your grandparents to join?

      You are making money selling packages, admit it. As far as the lowest price guaranteed, please. Try looking on the countless other sites out there. Wrong again. N ow before you continue, make sure you actually know what you’re talking about. Serious. Bring one point to the table at let the rest of us prove you wrong. I’ve brought a couple, prove me wrong. I’ve been involved with this for 12 months and seen it all, argued it all and fought against it all. Your 3 months are just repeating, repeating and repeating, Droobli crap.

2608. Comment by kees | February 8th, 2010

      CG Holdings Ltd. (read: Droobli) reports:

      * Accumulated Deficit/Operational Loss of $1.7+ million *

      in MEDG Form-8K/A, released 4 Feb. 2010:
      http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1097792/000116169710000094/ex991.htm

2609. Comment by kees | February 8th, 2010

      also in that Form-8K/A:

      * Commissions payable $1,876,605*

      Let’s see… $1,876,605 in payable BA commissions…. make that $1.9 million for easier calculations.

      I don’t know how many BA’s Droobli has, but let’s assume Droobli has 10,000 BA’s entitled to receive commissions:

      $1.9 million devided by 10,000 = (on average) $190 per BA for this Sept 08 – Sept 09 period.

      Or, assume Droobli has only 5,000 BA’s entitled to receive commissions:
      $1.9 million devided by 5,000 = (on average) $380 per BA for this Sept 08 – Sept 09 period.

      Or, assume Droobli has 20,000 BA’s entitled to receive commissions:
      $1.9 million devided by 20,000 = (on average) $95 per BA for this Sept 08 – Sept 09 period.

2610. Comment by kees | February 8th, 2010

      Some more Facts & Figures you won’t hear from Droobli:

      http://www.youtube.com/user/droobliunofficial
      &
      http://droobli-unofficial.blogspot.com/

2611. Comment by beavis | February 8th, 2010

      Gee, Realist, who is going to win here; facts or DroobliSpeak? I know this might be a tall order due to some obvious limitations on your part, but just add up the auction traffic for, say, the past week. Divide that by the alleged “5 million customers”; see if you can reach any conclusions. If not, go back and read the posts that clearly show how DroobliMath is based on whatever Bobby Jensen decides to pull out of his ass at any given moment. He can’t make up his mind what year the company started, how many customers they have, how many BA’s they have, etc., etc. My favorite one is how the US Droobli effort is building on “the success” of the flailing European operation. See if you can see the pattern of unsubstantiated bullshit (most of which isn’t even consistent because, for Drooblidiots, it doesn’t need to be). Bottom line, turkey, the facts have already been laid out in previous posts of which no one, including you, have supplied a valid counter-argument. kees, Only Facts and Road Warrior have done actual research; you only parrot what your upline tells you and mistake that for your research.

2612. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 8th, 2010

      Realist – you obviously have a lot of posts to answer here (provided you were telling the truth in saying you would stay for a while).

      So you brought some maths into this and provided a ridiculous equation based on some fairly mythical figures.

      I realise you asked Bo Harrison to provide proof of GroobLi having customer numbers in the thousands – but you made the claim to me first that GroobLi has numbers near 5 million. So I’m asking you to verify that. And DO NOT even think about directing me to one of the GroobLi websites or some silly webinar where a brainwashed GroobLi rep is spouting any nonsense that will line his pockets with more money.

      Just like diligent people here have done real research in checking the auction traffic through VARIOUS INDEPENDENT sources, you need to do the same and verify your claim.

      As for your equation of 5000000/1500….well, that’s really pointless for many reasons….one being that the numerator is under extreme doubt. The second reason being…it makes no sense. Why are you comparing only this blog to the entire GroobLi community?

      Give us a stat that means something. Like this one! Ready?? (oh I cant wait to type this!!)

      EU “apparently” has 3 million customers….accorinding to one of the ever changing GroobLi websites…as well as fitting in somewhat with your claim of 5 million worldwide.

      Kees – who is one of the best researchers here – showed the EU auction traffic for Nov 2009 as 105 unique customers. 105!!!!

      Now I know you ridiculed the auction traffic numbers, but if this GroobLi plan is to succeed, and you are to have a reverse auction site to rival eBay, don’t you need more than 105 people visiting an auction site in a union of countries with 800 million people? Otherwise, aren’t you just recruiting more BA’s whose only way to make money is to recruit more BA’s? The product becomes non-existent….and then, it’s a PYRAMID scheme and is illegal.

      Also, don’t forget that the shopping portal is gone in the EU. That was the other spin that GroobLi dudes used to fling at us. That the auction sites were just the hook, the gimmick to get people in…the shopping portal was the ultimate aim. Do you know where it is? I just checked under my desk here at work. Not there. I’m a little concerned. It must be hungry.

      I dont want this post to drag on forever, so I’ll leave it there for now. Just provide the eveidence of 5 million customers and we can move onto to juicy topics like
      1. The morality of taking poeple’s money in a dishonest manner
      2. The never-ending fun of the anomolous auction results
      3. More about how without the auctions doing well, there can be no revenue generated
      4. The BA’s who are dumping their credit (this one is good – especially when you see how many there actually are doing it!)

2613. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 8th, 2010

      Just one more thing Realist that I couldn’t resist – you said that the worst case scenario is that GroobLi tanks tomorrow and you are still finacially up

      Wouldn’t the worst case scenario be that we are right and GroobLi starts to lose you money and it tanks in a year from now and you are finacially down?

      You don’t think much, hey?

      Bobby Jensen knows how to pick his victims

2614. Comment by Kyle | February 8th, 2010

      Very convenient Realist. Apparently failed Droobli Business Associates are giving Droobli a bad name by sending prices to $0 in the reverse auctions. You must be a conspircacy thorist. Those evil failed BAs should be taken to Area 51 and punished for using credits like this!

      But your explanation is a lie! Some of the people who have bought the $200 Visa cards for 0 cents have been Droobli executives!

      Realist, we know you are a drooblidiot. It mathematically follows that therefore you are a liar. You’ve been found out again.

2615. Comment by Micah4470 | February 8th, 2010

      Hey Realist, Paul Enfield said hundreds. I think he might be right. A lot of anti-Droobli people read this for their amusement daily. I have it with my morning coffee. This is my first post.

      Also did you check the links provided by my hero ‘kees’? So how many Droobli customers did you claim? 5 million? And how much did you claim to make as one of those 5 million? Thousands of dollars already? Wow you make about 80% of the world Droobli profit.

      You amaze me.

2616. Comment by beavis | February 8th, 2010

      Is it wrong of me to feel the desire to sell a bag of dog feces to Realist for $3,000 on the premise that it is a more powerful alternative to Gene’s Chaga mushrooms?

2617. Comment by guess | February 9th, 2010

      beav, whos’e the loser? That is your opinion. My posts are not a waste of time. I don’t see any gambling with Droobli. Just a great business model for everyone. I think it’s a great company now how are you going to handle that. Hey any of you how can you be a speaker with your ramblings. Here we go again the pot calling the kettle black. Telling people I ramble. You got my attention but this just gives me another chance to show you need to understand if everyone on this blog just read my posts they’d not need to read any others and get a pretty good idea of what we have here with the company, Oh and be sure to get your free credits at my site and start your business in a real tangible way either as an associate or a customer.I still give em out. Oh yes and they do deliver. Strait to your door. Have fun shopping.It’s my word against your. You lying accusations that are baseless? You don’t know me or my motives. Wouldn’t you call that judging? Scams aren’t they those dirty new devices that can save you time and money. Hey that’s what the company will do for you too. Why can’t you see that? Beav don’t try to trip us up anymore you have no real rational. You need help that’s what I’ll say. That’s all. Like I said many educated people would check out the Internet and maybe use just two keywords and find this cesspool of a blog and see that all you do here is attack character and make up lies. If you were educated you would know you deal in fallacies. So beav now you know were your wrong. Dream big.

2618. Comment by J.E. Trott | February 9th, 2010

      Put a sock in it Gene McNeally. No one knows what you’re saying.

2619. Comment by posing | February 9th, 2010

      I guess you guys are pretty mindless. You wouldn’t understand.

      You said it eaglescout I didn’t, but now if you can’t comprehend this someone will.

      (Developing story… http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/2007/06/06/)

      Are you sure you don’t have a hidden adgenda?

      http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/2007/09/26/

      I am trying to help you see your evil ways. So you might change them.

      So eaglescout, is this still your philosophy? Correct me if I am wrong.

      (When the facts don’t suit your agenda, distort them. Worked for the neoconservatives

      http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/2007/09/)

      September 30th, 2007 Posted by eaglescout |

      So eaglescout, beav, OF, The Spin Factor Team, don’t you think it’s time to give up the sharade and find a job?

      Dec 10, 2008 … [eaglescout is lying about GroobLi on “Spin Factor” for reasons … just about everything you wrote was a lie or a fallacious distortion, …
      thespinfactor.com/thetruth/2008/…/droobli-network-distortion/

      Now is this correct to assume also?

      (it’s safe to assume that past behavior is a good guide for future behavior.)

      January 20th, 2009 Posted by eagle

2620. Comment by beavis | February 9th, 2010

      J. E. Trott,

      Don’t insult Gene; my understanding is he wrote the script for Disney’s “Alice in Wonderland” (based on his true life story of him walking to the local mini-mart).

2621. Comment by Jack Daddy | February 9th, 2010

      guess wrote: ‘I don’t see any gambling with Droobli’

      How can you not? Surely you jest? If I dump $50 credits on an item in an attemp to bring down the price and win it and then someone comes in at the last second with one credit and wins the item, then how is it that not gambling?

      They’ve taken credit for my hours bidding on the item and countless amounts of other people too.

      guess wrote: ‘I think it’s a great company now how are you going to handle that.’

      Great company? Great companies don’t launch and re-launch in country after country. They’ve re-launched in Germany already. They promised Australia they’d launch in September last year which then became October which became November which has now become March of this year. I’m not holding my breath for March 1st.

      If the reason for re launch/delaying launch is too iron out some bugs in their ‘fantastic business model’ then they should have dotted their i’s and crossed their t’s before they launched.

      And again if it’s such a great company why have several people in Australia made complaints to the ACCC?

2622. Comment by Realist | February 9th, 2010

      Whether it is gambling or not is a matter of opinion. Fortunately there is only one opinion that carries weight, and its non of yours.
      One thing I can tell you for sure is that there are Many companies involved in Gambling in Las Vegas. Why don’t you “Do Gooders” get your pitch forks and stand out front the MGM grand. Try and warn all the patrons on the way in that they may come out with less than what they walked in with. They would spit in your faces and tell you to get a life.

      Everything in life is a gamble. Every time you jump in your car and drive down the road you are gambling with your life! Why don’t you call up Ford and tell them to stop making cars because some people are gambling with their lives by driving them? How about hanging out front of your local university and warning the students that all the school fees they paid were a gamble because they aren’t guaranteed job placement. Gee the possibilities for more blogs! you guys are probably wetting your pants right now with the excitement of possible “have a cry” topics.

2623. Comment by Realist | February 9th, 2010

      Jack Daddy Says
      “And again if it’s such a great company why have several people in Australia made complaints to the ACCC?”

      Ha x 1000. First tell me one company that doesn’t have a complaint registered at the ACCC. All you could come up with was several?! It would want to be thousands before it carried before you bother coming back with that as a valid argument. While you poking around ACCC figures why don’t you check out Ebay’s records. Let me know when you find 10’s of thousands of complaints.

2624. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 9th, 2010

      Realist – you gonna answer any of the questions put to you?

      Realist/Anyone Droobli – can I please have some free credits. I’m serious. I want to try something. I’m obviously too cheap to pay for them myself. How do I get some? I need about 50.

2625. Comment by Jones | February 9th, 2010

      Realist – you’re some tough-talking dude. Must be a strong macho type. Don’t like weakness. Call ‘em all “cry babies”. Man, we respect you. You’ve made it. You’re a big shot. Also, you must be some kind of financial genius to have got onto thois droobli thing. Amazing. Awesome. Wow you’re like an e-commerce guru. You’ve got it all together. You and Gene must be making buckets of money. Must be driving luxury cars. Have everything. Your life must be golden.

      Do you ever feel sorry for us? We don’t have your rockstar lifestyle. You probably have your own jet. We all want to be you. Teach us the path to success. Good luck with the millions you’ll make from Droobli. No wonder you’re so excited about and want to tell us all.

      And of course, you could have kept this knowledge to yourself. Made all the money yourself. But you’re too generous. You want us to enjoy cash streams flowing even while we sleep. You are an amazing humanitarian. Thank You, Thank you, Thank you.

      You are truly wonderful. I respect you. I affirm you.

2626. Comment by beavis | February 9th, 2010

      Jones,

      We’re all fools. Realist and his fellow Dubl BA’s are so far ahead of us intellectually with the Droobli concept that all we can do is hurl insults in frustration. The Droobli “Fun Shopping” business model is just too complex for simple people like you and I. . . and the rest of the planet; therefore, Droobli credits will mostly, almost entirely, be held by those with superior intelligence and vision. . . Droobli BA’s. Unfortunately, this means that they are restricted to only selling credits within this tight, inbred circle through enrollment and yearly renewals. If this looks like a pyramid scheme, I must come to there defense; it is not their fault that we, and the rest of the planet, fail to grasp this “fantastic business model”. Therefore, if Droobli turns into a pyramid scheme, as it appears to have done, it is my fault along with you, yes you, and of course the rest of the planet. Now that you know this I’m sure you feel bad for having been part of the cause of these visionaries eventually losing all of their money, alienating their friends and relatives and, in certain cases, violating local, State and Federal laws by participating in this “great business concept”.

      Oh, the humanity. . .

2627. Comment by bob-o | February 10th, 2010

      ok, found droobli and did a bit or research, a few hours later and i’m a third of the way down this site … i’m sick and tiered of you guys ranting at each other … it’s so obvious that it’s a scam and even if it isn’t i still wouldn’t advise anybody to invest anything in a company like this … it’s just not worth the time, effort or risk … if you want to buy somthing online buy it from a repuptable site (like ebay) and for god’s sake don’t give dogey sites like droobli your cash

2628. Comment by bob-o | February 10th, 2010

      follow up-

      i’m 12 years old and even i can see that this is a scam, i caught my mother looking at droobli and did some research, i’m glad i did cause she could have lost a lot of money on that site.

      don’t give your money to these people, they don’t deserve it

2629. Comment by guess | February 10th, 2010

      I can’t believe you people attacking me. You’re a lot ridiculous. You say scam I say tell me how? Who are you casting stones in the first place? If you are not you have no room to talk in the first place. I gave you my reasoning and that should be enough. This unethical blog tearing down a good company. Don’t you know you are not to follow a multitude to do evil. Where is your conscience? False accusers are this bunch. You are welcome to shop at my store. Yes, that’s right my store! I’d be glad to take your money. Go to the link. How do you live with yourself? Besides, they are likely to become lazy getting into other people’s business and saying things they shouldn’t. Is that a right assessment? You have to try and play your game. LOL but the donkey isn’t cooperating is it? You reach out your hand and step in, well. LOL You’ve been getting kicked too many times. You guys don’t seem to be interested in any real business you have to try to ruin another’s. But you can’t do it? No one is believing you anymore. I did a pretty good job here didn’t I? You don’t seem to answer that. We wouldn’t want anyone to click on any of your links here now would we? It might go to your head. Not eagle’s either. Right? You’re welcome to buy at my shop and check out my real business. Just keep watching. Droobli is really only just eginning with a brilliant business plan. Its coordinated around the world. Its working around the place and people are making money. Big money. Got anything against that?

2630. Comment by beavis | February 10th, 2010

      Gene (aka “guess”) has been driiinkiiing. . .

2631. Comment by posing | February 10th, 2010

      We in America are a free people. We make our own choices and live with them. We don’t have to be told

      by a blog whether or not we can. If we wish to start a business we do. If we want to buy something we will.

      If you try to tell us what to do we recognize the spirit behind it. When you place anyone as your inferior we understand

      that you know not the American Dream. We have the concept that all men are created equal and that all deserve respect.

2632. Comment by beavis | February 10th, 2010

      Sure, posing, “all deserve respect”. You lost money to Droobli, didn’t you? What a maroon.

2633. Comment by beavis | February 10th, 2010

      I’m sure Bobby Jensen will respect you in the morning

2634. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 10th, 2010

      Gene – no, you didn’t do a good job.

      Main reason being, you refuse to read the actual concerns people here have with GroobLi. I know you are screaming that you have….but c’mon.

      at the risk of boring the bejesus out of everyone…here we go again (and this is just some of them):

      1. When did GroobLi start? Why is it so hard to lock down that info. You dont seem to care much, but to some people, researching a company before investing IS important

      2. How many customers does DunLi have? Some very serious research here has cast doubt over the claimed numbers from GroobLi

      3. How many people really use the auction portals? Once again, some very serious research here has cast doubt over the claimed numbers from GroobLi

      4. Why do BAs end up throwing away credits and bidding items down to $0 when they know this is not saving money? why do this if the business plan is “brilliant” as you stated?

      5. Why wont GroobLi answer tickets that are sent in asking about mathematically impossible price reductions? Again, I realise we are talking sometimes about only 1c, but the fact that it’s happening and GroobLi is silent about why casts doubt over the legitimacy of the company

      6. Why wont anyone in GroobLi admit that it is ok for people to be wary of a company that has directors and execs working for it that have failures in previous companies that have cost people money?

      7. Where is the EU Shopping Mall? You, Gene, were one of the people here who so loudly proclaimed that the auctions were the hook, the gimmick to get people interested in the shopping mall. So where is it? According to GroobLi customers numbers, there should be a massive number of people in the EU screaming right now. There aren’t.

      8. Why can’t you see that multiple launches that fail to deliver what is promised (eg, Australia, US etc) causes massive doubt in people’s minds that this is legitimate?

      9. Before investing a sum in excess of $3000, I think it is reasonable to look at the fact that GroobLi HAS gone bankrupt in some countries (Spain, Denmark). Again this calls the business plan into question.

      10. Why do GroobLi cover up things like launches in China that clearly happened but no-one wants to talk about. Once again, doubt.

      I realise this will fall on deaf ears. I personally don’t think you are capable of digesting this information in a rational, logical manner, Gene. You have been challenged time and time again to provide answers to these concerns and cite credible sources. Seriously for some of us, it won’t matter (OF, beavis, kees, me….), but some others out there wont do the same level of research, and will blindly dive into this without knowing the real truth – and that is…No-one will be successful with this plan long term.

      You are just too blind to see it.

2635. Comment by Only Facts | February 10th, 2010

      Road Warrior.

      They are all good, and valid questions. All these questions could easily solved by providing one piece of factual and independent information confirming a Droobli claim. After 7 years they still can’t do it.

2636. Comment by Liam Andrews | February 10th, 2010

      Gene (McNeally?) has really lost it. I’m convinced of it. How does he function in normal society? His English sounds like a newly arrived immigrant yet he was born and bred in the USA. I don’t get it. How does a guy like that make millions from Droobli and all his other crazy businesses?

2637. Comment by J.E. Trott | February 11th, 2010

      Brilliant post Road Warrior. You aren’t boring us. Drooblidiots need to hear this stuff over and over again. They’ll get it one day.

2638. Comment by L. Ron Furnell | February 11th, 2010

      If Droobli wants to be taken seriously why doesn’t it advertize? I just can’t get over that. so many people in Droobli stumble onto this blog and other anti-Droobli blogs. This site and the others are making big inroads into Droobli. And yet Droobli doesn’t seem to care. So Beavis, kees, Road Warrior and others are left to be the main non-official Droobli stuff many people read.

      Very strange conduct for any company.

2639. Comment by Bosco X 2 | February 11th, 2010

      Whatever happened to T. Proia, Jason Switzer, Mike, Gene McNeally (aka Guess, Guess Who, Posing and Rough Framing Carpenter), Skeptic, Michelle Swartz and Jane Doe. Colorful Drooblidiots from the past, making all sorts of claims. I hope none of them did anything drastic when they found out what a con Droobli is.

2640. Comment by The Grinch | February 11th, 2010

      Why does Beavis say “what a maroon” instead of “what a moron”. Is that something clever? I’ve been away in Africa for 6 months on a mining site.

2641. Comment by flame the trolls | February 11th, 2010

      Is McNeally both “posing” and “Guess Who” and “guess”? He is totally incoherent. Why is he invoking the Declaration of Independence and crying out to be treated with respect?

      Psychologically he seems very frail. Like a little lost child. It saddens me to see what that great Nebraskan Gene McNeally has become. Even the super bowl failed to interest him this year. I’m going to take up a collection for Gene. I don’t care if he’s a billionaire whose God is mere money.

2642. Comment by beavis | February 11th, 2010

      The Grinch,

      You are obviously not a student of the great philosopher, Bugs Bunny.

2643. Comment by Realist | February 12th, 2010

      I was going to respond to all the ignorance posted this week. Then I realized, this is no longer a valid debate. Just a bashing session. I am just going to get on with my life instead.

      Some valid points have been made in the last week by a few of you. However, they have not been compelling enough cases to call Droobli and ask them to stop paying me, or to call my customers and tell them to stop buying products at discounts.

      Lastly to all the people complaining that Droobli won’t respond to their tickets, I have had the same problem. However I found them in my junk mail filter folder. A Droobli ticket cannot be closed without being answered.

      Have a great weekend.

2644. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 12th, 2010

      Realist – do you realise that your actions since appearing on this blog have been exactly the same as the actions of EVERY OTHER GroobLi BA who has been here?

      Your predicitablity is incredible (and a little scary, actually).

      As for taking the cowards way out and departing this debate and calling this a “bashing session”…well, here is some of what YOU wrote in your very post here (post #2596):

      “Tell them you have a degree in poo kicking and they should read your blog. Then wait for them to laugh, then feel the depleted self esteem again. Then cry. The call your mum up and ask her to come over and comfort you”

      I’m not going to make excuses for anyone else’s posts that were in a similar vain – including my own at times. Just merely pointing out the simple fact that YOU engaged US in certain manner with your writing. So expect some of the same in return.

      You wrote

      “they have not been compelling enough cases…”

      Stunning!
      Eg, kees showed a EU auction customer number of 105 for the month of Nov 09. Independently researched and verified from a source outside GroobLi.

      You don’t think something like that warrants an investigation/response? That sort of figure wouldn’t worry potential downline investors? You know it would.

      I’m not looking to attack you here. I’m after a genuine debate. Believe me, if you could independently verify the size of the customer base in the EU or US (or Aus), or explain the missing EU shopping portal etc, I would be fascintated to try and verify that work myself. Seriously.

2645. Comment by beavis | February 12th, 2010

      The Road Warrior said:

      “I’m not looking to attack you here. I’m after a genuine debate.”

      You’re looking to kick some Drooblidiot ass. Why? Because they are deserving. . . and easy. You know the facts are undeniable (except by a Drooblidiot). You can counter almost any claim they make. . . and prove that it is bullshit. And finally, you know the hardcore (which are the most fun) are rambling idiots making the whole “debate” a turkey shoot. I mean, look at “Realist”:

      “Some valid points have been made in the last week by a few of you. However, they have not been compelling enough cases to call Droobli and ask them to stop paying me, or to call my customers and tell them to stop buying products at discounts.”

      Some valid points have been made. . . hmmm. . . like the auctions are not as represented and the income stats and growth projections are pulled out of Bobby Jensen’s ass. Yes, he is going to grow up to be a big businessman and get to move to Neverland Ranch. . . I mean Droobliland.

      Look, Road Warrior, I know the pickings have been slim lately with Gene losing it. And it is frustrating that none of the Drooblidiots can even take a shot at answering even one of your questions. The problem is when you do find one that has the ability to think they eventually see through Droobli and switch sides (like Bob and Charlie). Which is a good thing, don’t get me wrong. Just these wankers that can’t handle the truth, like Realist or that putz Jason Switzer, who show up, post some Droobli webinar inspired stupidity and then have to leave because they are insulted are really irritating.

      OK, I’m finished with my rant.

2646. Comment by Arsene Flapp | February 12th, 2010

      Aren’t dubidiots just a creepy lot of jerks? How do they fit into normal society? Take Realist for example. He sounds like a prissy little baby.

      “I was going to respond to all the ignorance posted this week. Then I realized, this is no longer a valid debate. Just a bashing session. I am just going to get on with my life instead.”

      What a little princess!

      Then he said: “However, they have not been compelling enough cases to call Droobli and ask them to stop paying me, or to call, like he’s earning a lot with my customers and tell them to stop buying products at discounts.”

      Yeah, like he’s earning a lot with Droobli! Why is he saying “my customers”??? What’s he selling? Droobli is selling stuff but he’s selling nothing. He’s just trying to convince himself that he’s some kind of businessman. “My customers” What a joke!!!

2647. Comment by beavis | February 13th, 2010

      Lighten up, Arsene Flapp; it was a typo. He meant “customer”

2648. Comment by creed | February 13th, 2010

      I thought Droobli had folded. Why is it still able to stagger on? Can’t we just finish Droobli off and give it a decent burial?

2649. Comment by K. J. Jensen | February 13th, 2010

      You guys know a lot about Droobli. I just joined. How do I make a lot of money from it like Gene? I don’t care about annoying people or peeing off my family. Any advice from the naysayers?

2650. Comment by beavis | February 13th, 2010

      K. J. Jensen,

      No objection from me; I’m totally on board. My only advice is to aim high. When reality says you will invest more in Droobli than you will make, tell everyone you are killing it and the next launch is going to make Droobli the biggest thing since (insert “major, highly successful corporation” here). Don’t let kees and Only Facts or Road Warrior play their “fact” games with you. Facts don’t make you rich; attitude and a religious believe in Bobby Jensen that rivals that of a Taliban suicide bomber does. If you don’t believe you won’t succeed. Now go get them tiger!

2651. Comment by K. J. Jensen | February 14th, 2010

      Look I’ve already lied about Droobli to get people to join. My main concern is looking out for me. That’s what everyone should do. I haven’t made any money from Droobli but I say I have. I want to put as positive a view as possible about Droobli to attract more BAs. More people spending more money equals more for me. That’s all I care about. Everyone has to do the same. That’s business. It’s not for some people. Beavis, a lot of what we say in Droobli is total crap, because it’s hard to get a new idea off the ground. Things will get more honest in the future. I can say things here because the World is big and not everyone will read this blog. I don’t care if people read it anyway.

2652. Comment by beavis | February 14th, 2010

      K. J. Jensen,

      Things are looking good for you in Droobli. Your sociopathic tendencies will both help you recruit under false pretenses and insulate you from the eventual fallout from your recruits losing their money. Most BA’s can’t deal with this rejection and eventually crack (like Gene). Now, go out and tell them what they want to hear. Tell them stories of making money while they sleep, becoming successful businessmen without any effort, how they will get a Bentley complements of Droobli and live in DroobliLand with Bobby Jensen. Whatever you do, don’t listen to the “factanistas”. You said “Things will get more honest in the future”. Just keep saying that to yourself and pretty soon even you will believe it! Remember to sign up a few charities so that you can fleece their members by riding on the charities’ good will. Keep in mind it isn’t how you get to the top; just get there.

2653. Comment by K.J. Jensen | February 14th, 2010

      Aren’t you dishonest too, Beavis? What does it matter if some lose some money? Around $3000 isn’t a lot in Western countries. If people join Scientology they lose everything. I think the word scam has been around a long time. People go into Droobli with their eyes open. We encourage people to do their ‘due diligence’ but, realistically we know people don’t. Sharp people don’t do Droobli unless they understand they may have to cause some unsophisticated people lose Droobli. Anyway, for me Droobli is a training process for my own MLM scheme I’m working on. I hope you guys won’t do a number on me like you do on Mr Jensen. I’m wondering why you do all this. Why do you care if someone loses a little money? It’s only $3000. It’s not a lot. Also, you’ve been at it for over a year. What drives you?

2654. Comment by potentiality | February 14th, 2010

      In a continent of 600 million (i.e. Europe) there were only 105 unique customers to the Droobli auctions in November, 2009.

      I just can’t get my head around that. The gap between the reality and what Drooblidiots say is incredible.

2655. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 14th, 2010

      K.J. Jensen

      “What does it matter if some lose some money?”

      Do you realise that absolute shitness of a question like that?

      Some people just aren’t that smart. And it’s too easy to take advantage of them. For most of us, there is an in-built moral code that stops us hurting people who can’t look out for themselves. Something you obviously missed.

      “Why do you care if someone loses a little money?”

      Personally, I care because I have seen the consequence of investment in crap like GroobLi. I’ve seen family members unable to pay bills, unable to pay rent, unable to buy their kids food for the week, unable to pay the $50 for a school excursion, borrowing money from banks, borrowing money from family… You say it’s only $3000? You naive, inhuman little speck of infected cat shit. It’s so much more. It always is.

      “What drives you?”

      Your imminent failure

2656. Comment by guess again? | February 14th, 2010

      Here ya go guys. all the trash in the world in this pathitic blog won’t change a thing. Try this out for size – always the lowest price. Customers have lots of options where to purchase the things they are looking for. Price is the one reason and someone like Beavis cant put any spin on it. You should know that by now! We make sure that our price is truly the best price you can find anywhere. Anywhere, Beav. You never proved that wrong now did you? Let’s get things back to trash? Am I wrong? No. Don’t listen to Beavis. He can only say negative things. I like the idea of buying Mastercard debit cards for nothing you have purchased the item from us. hat’s real facts. Not youre fairy tales. Please. I mean if it is completed it’s a success right? How many auctions would you like? You know you can recommend something up for auction? What would you like to see? I’d like to see some tools there myself. I’d like the prices go down faster. Too bad. Point is we know they work. Right? Check my site and see what my kids got for Christmas. All stuff from Droobli. Thanks Droobli. Plus gift stuff. I tried it out and sure enough we got the product and good service to boot. You don’t seem to give me any information on your fabulous site. Oh but you have many of those site right? Are these what you support as fundamentals for the company? You call us gambling? How do you make it out to be a pyramid. You can’t seem to grasp the concept of networking can you. You can’t really put any stock in traffic analysis yet the company is still rolling out and you can’t seem torecognize that either. Just somethng you can pull up it’s too early to tell. Yes given time we’ll really have something that is worth talking about. It’s all new brand name high quality products. With the auctions products that everyone can afford. Thats the beauty of Droobli. Everyone can make something. A win-win for everyone.

2657. Comment by beavis | February 14th, 2010

      K.J. Jensen said:

      “Aren’t you dishonest too, Beavis?”

      Yes, I didn’t mean a single word I said to you. My name isn’t even “beavis” (though, I’m considering a legal name change). I was just keeping entertained until a real Drooblidiot shows up.

2658. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 14th, 2010

      Gene… guess again…

      So funny! You said it again!!
      I’ve been waiting so long to hear you say it again….

      “You can’t really put any stock in traffic analysis yet the company is still rolling out…”

      2003 – GroobLi starts (well, maybe)
      2010 – Still rolling out

      In 7 years, GroobLi managed to attract record numbers to the EU auction site. 105 people were known to have visited.

      At this rate, after the “rollout”, BAs can expect real returns by around 4500AD.

2659. Comment by beavis | February 14th, 2010

      Once again, Gene (aka “guess again”), has clearly stated the Droobli position. I think I can speak for all of us here and say that we cannot refute a single statement that you have made (we also can’t make sense out of a single statement you have made).

2660. Comment by K.J. Jensen | February 14th, 2010

      C’mon The Road warrior, it’s not as bad as all that. I’d say those family members have poor money management skills. I say again $3000 isn’t a lot. And you know what? These people who come to Droobli have lost money in other schemes. That’s who these people are. If it wasn’t Droobli, it’d be something else. Why the big deal? Some people were meant to have money and others were meant to struggle. That’s life isn’t it? Give money to Haiti if your conscience feels bad. Anyone who seeks me out about Droobli has at least some chance of failure. There is no foolproof scheme. What are you promising RW? What snake you selling? I look at any idea to make money. It’s my DNA.

2661. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 14th, 2010

      Jensen – where in any of my posts have I given the impression of selling something?

      THE PLAIN FACTS ABOUT GROOBLI is not something I need (or want) to sell. That’s free.

      If it helps divert a potential victim for you, or it converts a GroobLi investor to reverse their decision (as it has), or it helps this blog and others to achieve high profile and serve as warnings for those who may come in contact with GroobLi, then that is satisfying. It’s an achievment.

      If it contributes in any small way to having a company like GroobLi finally shut down, then that is satisfying. It’s an achievment.

      I give this blog so much credit. It brought someone like you to it. So we can see the sort of people who are out there first hand. Your selfishness and exploitation of people for your own gain is not smart business. It’s pathetic.

      I’m sure any GroobLi people reading your posts who still believe this is a real business opportinuty are cringing right now. Not, I expect, the sort of image they want to portray.

2662. Comment by beavis | February 14th, 2010

      K,J. Jensen said:

      “I say again $3000 isn’t a lot.”

      So, give me $3,000.

2663. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 14th, 2010

      I’ve just been reading a few older posts…man, what a great laugh!

      Reason being that the Aussie launch is in 2 weeks (I think that’s still right….any BAs care to update that?)

      Does everyone remember the date April 4th, 2009?

      Of course not. Because that was the day nothing happened.

      Beavis, I’m all jealous of the fun you had back then…counting down to that massive US launch. I just cannot wait for this next one!!

2664. Comment by beavis | February 14th, 2010

      I’m hording my tokens. . .

2665. Comment by K. J. Jensen | February 15th, 2010

      Listen Road Warrior, I don’t understand you. You’re selfish. We’re all selfish. MLMs trap people so what? They’re all adults. I see no problem with getting someone into Droobli, which I know isn’t perfect. We tell them to do their ‘due diligence’. I can’t understand your crusade. You call it exploitation. But no one holds a gun to their heads. I’ve been in Droobli meetings where most of the people are real losers. You just know they’re gonna blow their dough again. I wish Droobli wasn’t marketed at the loser aazy people, but it is. You occasionally get an educated person like myself and we tend to take the others for a ride. I will tell you this – Bob would be making money, Gene wouldn’t be. You can tell from their posts what kind of people they are. Sorry to dump on a fellow Droobli person, Gene, but I had to. what does it matter anyway if Gene loses $3000? He said he was a carpenter so he can make $200, 000 a year from that.

2666. Comment by Evil Face | February 15th, 2010

      Is it just me or does Gene McNeally of Omaha area have an evil-looking face? He looks like a man who has done time. Real creepy-looking. I don’t want him near me. How could his wife sleep with that thing?

2667. Comment by beavis | February 15th, 2010

      K. J. Jensen,

      You seem to be under the mistaken impression that you are conman; not the one being conned. If you signed up as a lowly BA, you are at the bottom of the Droobli MLM food chain. Just because you are pushing the concept when you know it is a rip-off doesn’t make you any wiser than any other BA. In case you haven’t noticed, recruiting BA’s (“where the money is”) isn’t working out to well for Droobli. In all likelihood you won’t have recouped your initial investment before your annual renewal is due. It’s a bad concept which makes it harder sell. Why do you do it? Why not apply your alleged talents into something that makes money for you instead of Bobby Jensen?

2668. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 15th, 2010

      K.J. Jensen – what exactly can;t you understand? You said in your last post that you were an “educated person”.

      Let’s make it really easy…

      What is the title and purpose of this blog?

      In case you have some difficulty reading what is at the top of your screen – it’s “GroobLi, another complex scam”

      GroobLi is a scam. You are confirming that. You are saying that you “take others for a ride”. You are one of the first to come out and expicitly state what we all know. So well done.

      So the “crusade” is easy, right?

      1. Warn people about GroobLi
      2. Warn people about you
      3. See GroobLi collapse so there is no more need to warn people about GroobLi and you

2669. Comment by kees | February 16th, 2010

      Ooooops… Compete data for January 2010 just in….
      (siteanalytics.compete.com)

      us.droobli.com:
      Nov. 2009: 55,972 unique visitors
      Dec. 2009: 42,085 unique visitors
      Jan. 2010: 38,310 unique visitors

      screenshot:
      http://i47.tinypic.com/2zz2txh.jpg

2670. Comment by Chris Janson | February 16th, 2010

      Droobli is a publically listed company.
      Think about it, all of the top companies such as Wal mart, Sony, Gucce, Adidas are all in partnership with Droobli.

      I suggest you detract all of your untruths, otherwise your website could be in serious trouble.
      Public companies giants don’t take these blogs with a grain of salt, they take action.

2671. Comment by beavis | February 16th, 2010

      I “detract” all of my untruths.

      Website fixed.

2672. Comment by Only Facts | February 16th, 2010

      Chris Janson.

      Yet another ill-informed member of the Droobli clan. Even though the following has been repeated time and time again. For those who’s “Due Diligence” does not including reading.

      Droobli is not a publicly listed company, Medianet is.

      Walmart is not in partnership with Droobli as their letters prove in previous posts.

      Next you’ll say Droobli did not go bankrupt in Denmark.

      Thank you.

2673. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 16th, 2010

      Chris Janson – could you please list a few of the “untruths” posted on this blog and then perhaps respond to them with some evidence showing why they are untrue?

2674. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 16th, 2010

      Some more Compete data…for my favourite…The EU!

      Before being swept away by GroobLi’s incredible numbers here, note that Wikipedia puts the EU population at 830.4 million (or just over 13% of the world population)
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Europe

      eu.droobli.com
      Jan 2010 – 1,592 unique visitors

      That’s up from 105….so that’s a win

      By comparison

      ebay.com
      Jan 2010 – 72,024,418 unique visitors

      Yes, yes…I know that the eBay stat is worldwide. So then let’s add us.droobli.com and eu.droobli.com….1592 + 38310 =

      39,902 unique visitors in Jan 2010

      This is totally understandable as the company is still rolling out

2675. Comment by beavis | February 16th, 2010

      Road Warrior,

      Droobli went from 105 unique visitors to 1592 in one month?! That’s a 15.161904762 times increase. At that rate they’ll have 234,956,917,260,511,722 unique visitors (and everybody buys so that can simply be called “customers”) within twelve months. That’s the entire world’s population plus the planet that Gene comes from combined! Viral marketing is real! And eBay only did 70,024,418; pathetic.

2676. Comment by Jimbo | February 16th, 2010

      So Droobli has around 40,000 visitors in a month and ebay has 72,000,000?

      When is Droobli going to show the growth that will threaten ebay?

      Also, there are hundreds of other auctions sites bigger than Droobli.

2677. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 16th, 2010

      Jimbo, it’s only been 7 years….give it time

2678. Comment by Chris Janson | February 16th, 2010

      I haven’t got time to be going back and forward on this blog.
      Droobli is a publically listed company I repeat Droobli is a publically listed company.
      Droobli comes under the Umbrella of Medianet group – yes you are correct. If Droobli was a scheme why would it be a public company:
      See website here for explanation
      http://www.medianetgroup.com/

      Click on this website below to show you publically listed company – type in symbol MEDG

      http://www.otcbb.com/asp/Info_Center.asp

      When we say Walmart or Adidas are in partnership we don’t mean they have joined as company financial partners, we mean the Walmarts and other giant companies are merchants with Droobli.
      Go to http://www.droobli.com – it’s not rocket science.

      As mentioned this is the last post I make, intelligent people know what you are trying to achieve with this blog as you have your own financial agenda.
      I’m not clicking on your site again, and lifting your status on the search engines. Google even state be careful of websites who come across as scam watchers – as everyone knows you are the real scam.
      Good bye, have a great life.

2679. Comment by beavis | February 17th, 2010

      Chris Janson said:

      “If Droobli was a scheme why would it be a public company”

      Because some mentally challenged jackasses think that if a company gets listed, even as a piece of shit penny stock, that somehow that makes them legit (at least in their little minds). But being as none of you mental giants knows anything about securities, the ploy works.

      The dimwit also said:

      “Go to http://www.droobli.com – it’s not rocket science.”

      No, but it is just complicated enough to bilk you simpletons.

2680. Comment by Gary Markham | February 17th, 2010

      Beavis
      What is Droobli’s goal?
      Answer
      To save people money on products they already buy.
      So why are you so upset with Droobli?
      Reverse auctions have been around for decades.
      But Droobli’s main goal is to become the biggest shopping portal in the world. People are able to go through the Droobli portal into other merchants businesses such as restaurants, travel companies, literally thousands of companies and they can buy products cheaper through Droobli, than by going direct.
      Why do you think these merchants like Avis renta car have jumped on board? because Droobli is bringing them customers that’s why.

      These people on this blog are not simpletons as you call them, they are educated people defending what they no is right.

      Do you realise that many Americans and Aussies and Europeans are Droobli licensees who are trying to make a decent living for there families, especially in a time of financial crisis where people are unable to get jobs. And all you do is bag the hell out of a company which by the way is still growing.
      It will take Droobli years and years to reach a tipping point.
      Thats the licensees job, to find other licensees and customers.
      And the customers are going to be saving money, which is also why this is such a great company, we are saving people money.

      One last thing, I’m not sure if you’ve ever owned a public company, I’m a director of 4 public companies, and believe me you cannot operate without heavy scrutiny. Droobli is above board, I have researched it for a year, I’m an accountant, a business owner, and I’ve been in business for 35 years.
      Droobli is good.

2681. Comment by No Know Now | February 17th, 2010

      Gary Markham said:

      “These people on this blog are not simpletons as you call them, they are educated people defending what they no is right.”

      Your statement is an oxymoron. You are both defending the fact that you are amply educated, and proving you are not using the word no instead of know.

      There are more grammatical errors, but the bigger point I would like to address is this:

      You said:

      “I’m a director of 4 public companies, and believe me you cannot operate without heavy scrutiny. Droobli is above board, I have researched it for a year, I’m an accountant, a business owner, and I’ve been in business for 35 years.”

      I’m going to give you one chance to spend a couple of hours reading this site and checking out the links. You will then have researched it for 8762 hours instead of 8760. Big difference.

      I’m not going to waste my time addressing all of the other credentials you assert, because I do not believe it is remotely possible or true. Scary to even think about.

2682. Comment by Woo | February 17th, 2010

      To Dear Gary Markham:

      You say, “I’m a director of 4 public companies…”; ” I’m an accountant, a business owner, and I’ve been in business for 35 years…”

      I say, Wooooooooo~~~~

      I am just a high school graduated, and just working for a small business, and by looking at your “professional” English writing to this blog. I already found “Droobli is not good”.

2683. Comment by Woo | February 17th, 2010

      You say, “I’m a director of 4 public companies…”; ” I’m an accountant, a business owner, and I’ve been in business for 35 years…”

      I say, Wooooooooo~~~~

      I am just a high school graduated, and just working for a small business, and by looking at your “professional” English writing to this blog. I already found “Droobli is not good”.

2684. Comment by No Know Now | February 17th, 2010

      Gary,
      Not to be rude, but one more thing.

      But based on the difference between 8760 and 8762, you might want to consider spending about a day and a half as an accountant, business owner, and director of 4 public companies.

      Your experience in those fields of expertise will increase by the same percentage as if to read this blog. Just think of the possibilities. You can be at the top of your game earning enough to stay away from these schemes.

2685. Comment by Gary Markham | February 17th, 2010

      No Know now, Beavis.
      yes I am a well credentialed businessman, and yes I did fail English, and yes it was meant to be ‘know’ not ‘no’ who cares.

      Why would I bother reading this blog. You are obviously spin doctors with an agenda, you don’t want Droobli to succeed, and you are very worried about them. I’d say you are probably from an opposition company, plus you are making money from this very site – so it’s in your best interest to have people clicking on the site.

      Your disgusting behaviour the way you ridicule people on this site, is a dead give away that you know ( see got that right) Droobli is an incredible company and because you have dug yourself in a hole with no real substance, all you do is bag people who write on this blog.

      As mentioned I would not waste my time reading this pathetic blog. Internet cowards like yourself who hide behind a computer, with no identity are everywhere. You are one of many cowards who are not prepared to put a real face to a name, just hiding and whimpering behind your computer.

      Shame, Shame, Shame – The truth and the spin factor – THE REAL SCAM.

2686. Comment by beavis | February 17th, 2010

      In Gary Markham’s previous post he said:

      “you don’t want Droobli to succeed”

      You are, for once in your life, absolutely correct. The rest of your post, as usual, is totally wrong. Oh, wait, you did correctly acknowledge your mistake from your previous post.

2687. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 17th, 2010

      Gary Markham – perhaps you would care to address some of repeated the questions/concerns raised about GroobLi? (see post 2634)

      No malice, no insults here….just an opportunity for a Pro-GroobLi person to respond.

2688. Comment by aroura | February 17th, 2010

      Hi with all the previous posts put aside, im based in Australia which i believe Droobli is about to Launch in March…
      If you are a Droobli associate member and have some positive remarks please provide some detail?? no negetives please i have read this entire blog im just interested to hear who its working for and are you making any money even though it hasnt launched yet, i understand the real money comes from the customers shopping which is difficult if the site hasn’t launched but i would love to hear some positives out way the negetives? im looking at the entry level with an upgrade in 30 days.

2689. Comment by David P. | February 17th, 2010

      sorry auroura – it doesn’t work that way. You can’t insist on “no negatives please”. You haven’t given your email address so you want people to write only positive Droobli comments here. Good Luck. Droobli is simply awful and your fascist attempts to control this blog will come to nothing.

2690. Comment by Only Facts | February 17th, 2010

      Aroura.

      While Im not a Droobli associate, I can tell you the positive. You can make from Droobli, but only from selling Ba packages.

      Beav, Road Warrior.
      Sometimes it best to let people just keep on talking and burry themselves. Here we have a well credentialed businessman/successful accountant and director of 4 public companies, that finds it necessary to supplement his income with MLM. Hmmmmmmmm.

      As far as Chris Janson is concerned. Bang, Bang, Bang, Bang. Thats the sound of my head against a brick wall. Said it all before, proved it all before, shown those statements to wrong before. Chris, Gary, if you both wish to join Droobli go ahead and good luck. Just don’t try to convince others to join the lie.

      I challenge either of you or anyone for that matter, again. After 7 years show me one independent source that can prove any of Droobli claims.

2691. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 17th, 2010

      aroura – I realise you only wanted to hear positives, but seeing as you are about to throw money away, it seems prudent to ask this…

      What do you really expect GroobLi Business Associates to say here?

      Let’s pretend I’m a BA. My absolute first thought after seeing a post like yours where you are looking at entry level is this….”GET HIM IN INTO MY DOWNLINE SO I CAN MAKE MONEY OFF HIM”

      And to do this, you will likely hear one or many of the following…

      1. We are just rolling out. Now is the time to get in.
      2. Though we have not launched in Australia yet, you can buy items from the US portal that have the Aussie flag against them (NOTE: I would urge you to look at exactly how many there are and decide if that’s worth it)
      4. When Australia launches, you will have the opportinity to buy products from Australia and not pay the international shipping (NOTE: Please look into the auction numbers that have been researched….they are not conducive to making money from this business plan – and those portals have been around for years)
      3. I am making money. You can too.
      4. The plan we have is great. The auctions are just the beginning. We will have a global shopping portal (NOTE: Ask what happened to the EU shopping portal….no-one will answer me)

      So…off you go BAs…over to you

2692. Comment by David P. | February 17th, 2010

      Gary Markham, you’re one of the worst bare-faced liars I have ever met. You are typical of all drooblidiots who must lie and cheat and scratch around for a few pennies. Business failures the majoirty of them. Social failures too.

      1. You said: “What is Droobli’s goal? Answer To save people money on products they already buy”.

      You liar! The goal of Droobli is to make money.

      2. You said: “But Droobli’s main goal is to become the biggest shopping portal in the world. People are able to go through the Droobli portal into other merchants businesses such as restaurants, travel companies, literally thousands of companies and they can buy products cheaper through Droobli, than by going direct.”

      You liar! You can never get true discounts by going through middlemen who thake their share! There are enough ways to shop online or at stores now. Another middleman like Droobli is not needed or wanted. That’s why sales are so low.

      3. You said: “I’m not sure if you’ve ever owned a public company, I’m a director of 4 public companies. I’m an accountant, a business owner, and I’ve been in business for 35 years”

      You liar! A moron like you could never be the director of 4 PUBLIC companies. Your English is completely inadequate. Your ideas are infantile. And why would you need a shonky two-bit company like Droobli if those claims were true?

      4. You said: “Droobli is above board, I have researched it for a year.”

      You liar! If you had done your research for a year (ha ha ha) you would have stumbled on the many anti-droobli sites and realised what Droobli is really all about.

      5. You said: “Droobli is good”

      You liar! If Droobli is so good then why do so many people hate it with a passion. Why do the well-researched figures provided by kees show a different story?

2693. Comment by beavis | February 17th, 2010

      David P.,

      I think we are supposed to be bringing in the Drooblidiot pimps slowly. . . then we step on them

2694. Comment by beavis | February 17th, 2010

      I have some positive things to say about Droobli. . . umm. . . they rented an office in Florida. . . and. . . they bought a failing penny stock Internet company called MediocreNet. . . and. . . they structured themselves underneath them so they wouldn’t have to go through the SEC because. . . they’re really smart guys. . . and honest. . . sort of.

2695. Comment by Gary Markham | February 17th, 2010

      Childish people.
      Why do all business people diversify, to make money. That’s what entrEprenuers do.

      You all have your own agenda’s and i’m not going to keep blogging, it’s a waste of time talking to dickheads. I hope you are not from Australia, as you are really un Australian.

      LET ME REPEAT – SO IT GET’S INTO YOUR THICK HEADS.
      GROOBLI IS AN EVOLVING COMPANY – IT MAY TAKE 10 YEARS UNTIL IT REACHES THE STAGE WHERE EVERYONE IS UTILIZING IT.

      BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT BUSINESS MINDED YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND IT TAKES YEARS AND YEARS FOR A BUSINESS TO GROW, YOU ARE ONLY LOOKING AT NOW.

      THIS IS A CUSTOMER BASED BUSINESS, IT’S THE CUSTOMERS WHO WILL DRIVE THE BUSINESS – AND THE LICENSEES WILL CLEAN UP. EVERYTIME SOMEONE BUYS ON THE INTERNET – A LICENSEE GETS PAID.

      THE FUNNY THING IS BEAVIS AND BUTTHEAD AND DAVID P – IN YEARS TO COME YOU WILL BE BUYING PRODUCTS VIA GROOBLI BECAUSE YOU WILL BE SAVING MONEY. LOL

      THIS IS MY LAST POST – BY THE WAY I AM A GROOBLI BA, AND MAKING GREAT MONEY – I JUST LOVE WINDING YOU BLOKES UP – YOU ARE SO SENSITIVE – HAPPY SPIN DOCTORING ON THE NET, SEEMS TO BE ALL THE RAGE THESE DAYS. BYE BYE

2696. Comment by beavis | February 18th, 2010

      Your caps button is stuck.

2697. Comment by Gary Markham | February 18th, 2010

      it was going to be my last post – but this is the last.
      Beavis or butthead or whatever your name is.
      thanks for letting me know about the capslock – i didn’t realise.
      Guys have fun in life, don’t take it so seriously.
      Great to see you can have a laugh Beavis, much better attitude.

      Be a real person, go out and explore the world, don’t be grudge people of having a better life just because they want something better. That’s why people join direct sales business’, so they can have a better life for there families. All you do on these blogs is make it harder for people who do want a better life.

      You talk about MLM like it’s a scam, but its been around for decades. Donald Trump just started his own networking business in America selling nutritonal products.It’s the fastest growing networking business in America. Why? Because it gives people hope, people are hurting, and they need a way to support there families. Is that a crime Butthead, is that a crime? Go to http://www.trumpnetwork.com have a look for yourself.
      People who start these businesses are good people, good hard working people, why don’t you go after Osama Bin laden, or criminals, why go after normal hard working citizens who want something better.

      Just on finishing – i want to say 4 things

      1) David P – you are dead set #*#%** idiot, absolute loser with a capital L – everyone knows that – you are the real liar – hiding behind the internet.

      2) whoever asked why would people go through Droobli, to buy Adidas. Think about it. If you went to Adidas and said we are going to give you a million customers, but in return please give our customers a rebate, would you say, yes sure bring it on.
      How much do you think it costs Adidas to advertise to get people to buy products. Droobli come along and give them a million customers. Our customers win, as they save money, Droobli wins, as they get a cut, and the licensees win because they also get a cut.
      It’s the perfect business model.

      3) Regarding comment 2634 – Droobli is an evolving company it is going to take years to take off. No company is perfect, it takes ups and downs, trial and error. Google took 11 years, Amazon took 13 years, infact Amazon made no money for 10 years, but now Amazon make money from the shopping portal, not books. Thats what Droobli is doing. The auctions are just a sticky site to get people to know ( spelt right) more about Droobli, it’s the shopping portal that is the end result.

      4)Aroura ( David P you spelt her name wrong – you must be un educated) whatever you do in life, if I can give some advise, never seek advise or counselling from dead end drop kick losers on internet blogs, and understand these bloggers are making a fortune drumming up controversy, pretending to be concerned about Droobli. But in essence they don’t care about Droobli, they are making a shit load of money everytime someone goes to there site, and when people click on the banners which you will see below, this site gets paid.

      The real crooks are the people that run this site. So I will never return again.

      The world is full of cowardly bloggers, who are sitting there now – laughing there guts out, because people like me have written on the site, and i shouldn’t be on here, I can hear my wife calling, I better go and give her a big kiss.

      I know it’s a bit like Johnny Farnham, but this is definately the last time, you won’t hear from me again.

      Have a great weekend – enjoy life, we only get one shot.

2698. Comment by beavis | February 18th, 2010

      Gary Markham said:

      “How much do you think it costs Adidas to advertise to get people to buy products. Droobli come along and give them a million customers.”

      A million customers given to one shoe manufacturer? I don’t think so. MediocreNet only had $632,000 in total revenue in the the last quarter reported (with an operating loss of $441,000). MediocreNet, aka Droobli, isn’t dog squat to Nike.

2699. Comment by In The Know | February 18th, 2010

      Gary Markham,

      I dare you to not post again, I bet you cannot do it. You will not be able to sleep. You will become obsessed, you need to prove yourself right.

      You may be a good person inside, but you were were coerced by a powerful mind with a strong agenda.

      If you never log in here again it proves that you are a “one potato chip” kind of guy.

      Let me ask you this:
      Is GroobLi product or opportunity driven?

      Have you noticed what percentage of the 14 million CG Holdings made(GroobLi) on credit packages, verses commissions from customers?

      http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1097792/000116169710000094/ex991.htm

      You will eventually become responsible for a lot of people who spend a lot of money based on fact or truth. The ball is in your court.

      Have some more chips…

2700. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 18th, 2010

      Gary Markham – you said “I hope you are not from Australia, as you are really un Australian”

      I’m Australian
      You’re a crook

      I really hope you stay away. You embarrass a nation.

2701. Comment by David P. | February 18th, 2010

      Gary Markham has revealed himself. He virtually admitted that he did lie about his credentials: “I just like winding you guys up”. Behind every drooblidiot is a sleazy liar. All his hyperbole is typical Droobli. Sorry to tell you this Gary but you will never make money from Droobli. People just don’t want to shop this way. It will never take off. Only idiots are attracted to reverse auctions. This isn’t now nor never will be “a million customers” that Droobli can deliver to any company.

      If you come from Australia, you will suffer even more. Australians have very low levels of Internet shopping. Plus they are more wary of scams and spending money on luxury items. Sorry, Gary you don’t get rich by sleeping.

2702. Comment by beavis | February 18th, 2010

      Hey, who won the lots in Droobli Land? There were no announcement of winners. I’m puzzled; it’s as if it didn’t happen.

      http://www.incomeauction.com/2009/09/10/droobli-associates-in-droobli-land/

2703. Comment by beavis | February 18th, 2010

      OK, I see that they extended the deadline through 2010. Does that mean there were no winners in 2009? This is as strange as their auction results that are mathematically impossible.

2704. Comment by beavis | February 18th, 2010

      Hey, I just thought of something. Since we all know the auctions where you get something for far less than it is worth is really winning at a game of chance, shouldn’t you be subject to taxation and shouldn’t Droobli have to fill out a 1099 on the winner; especially the ones that got it for zero. This is, in my humble, a taxable event; not just a purchase.

2705. Comment by Morgan | February 19th, 2010

      We Droobli people pay no tax since Droobli is registered in the Cayman Islands. My $12 million a year from Droobli is tax-free. Thank you Droobli helping me see how pathetic non-Droobli people are. They are angry naysayers who are missing out on millions of dollars. Droobli is the easiest money you can make. Just by sleeping I make millions. I must sleep a lot (ha ha). You don’t need to do anything. Droobli is viral that is what you people are forgetting. When millions of customers buy I make money. Truckloads of cash put into my various accounts. You gotts check out this wonderful business plan. you people can all be me. A not-so-good looking version of me. Get on board this thing. Create cash streams. Trade your wife in for a super model. (Happened to me).

2706. Comment by Morgan | February 19th, 2010

      I forgot to say that Bobby Jensen makes no money from Droobli. He just wants to help people get rich. He’s a great man and all of you are terrible.

2707. Comment by Bob | February 19th, 2010

      I like the sound of Bob. Sounds motivate and a great team leader. Positive people create action and action creates wealth. I wish I had your success from Droobli, but I know it will come. At the moment it seems like an unattainable goal, but I know that’s just negativity. From seminars I’ve been to, $1 million incomes from Droobli are extremely common. More power to you Morgan.

2708. Comment by Guess again | February 19th, 2010

      Well great to see the positives happening. People here think viral marketing is a joke but it isn’t. Droobli is viral strategy and is exploding. Lots of folks are gettin’ rich. Just look at all my posts here and it will set you straight about the company. They had to change some things like every company delops strategy. You people try deceive or bad mouth about a great company. Don’t sweat it. I came in at gold. Some say Droobli is finished and that just isn’t true. What does one think it takes to set up an online store? We’re still rolling out and yes it may take years for things really to start popping. So is the shop. All plans don’t always work right the first time. Launches are promotions. A way to generate traffic. All PR is meant to genreate traffic rates. You got no clue on what it takes to get this Internet business going. Be patient. Oh but who cares. Basically we have a shopping mall. Its a very good time to be in. That’s where your profits are going to be as long as you acquire customers. think that’s usually how it works. You see as we grow the auctions will attract new customers. It might be slow now but it won’t be. More products will be coming on the auctions. The best prices you can buy on the Internet. But don’t wait and see. Get started. Don’t be duped by these guys.It’s a gold opportunity. Still is. It’s a good idea isn’t it? Why so against it? People you just have to overlook all their misunderstandings it’s just for sake of generating controversy and you can’t take them seriously. I talk to lots of folks and there all positive too. Would any of you become a customer? It won’t cost you anything. I might even give you some free credits. How’s that for a nice guy? come to my site (still changing it). Nice tie? You still can buy anything you want in the shop. What’s the big deal? Now if you do decide to be an associate and you to acquire customers and build a great team you can make click through revenue. Thats happening. Its not fairy stories its real beav. These are the positives. People are making money. We don’t care if you don’t believe it. Asia, Australia, South Pacific all coming online soon. Come to the world’s largest shopping portal. Im not kidding. Even if no purchases are made. If your just window shopping and click on an item. Not bad. No need to do anything but watch. This company is innovative and is changing with the times. And there is more to come.

2709. Comment by Micah Kudrow | February 20th, 2010

      yada yada yada Gene …… we’ve heard the Droobli mantra ……. got anything else to say? Any answers to the inconsistencies?

2710. Comment by Caleb Mustone | February 20th, 2010

      Gene has really lost it? is he really a cornhusker? Omaha’s leading businessman? Is there a statue of him in town? There’s some questions for him Kudrow.

2711. Comment by Guess again | February 20th, 2010

      You people are something else. You wont see what the truth is. you dont really care. Its a game to you, beav. you and your people are just critical. dont think just say stuff.

2712. Comment by winning gold | February 20th, 2010

      let’s close this site down!!! we must!!!! all it has done has been to hurt Droobli sales !!!! and that costs me money !!!!

2713. Comment by beavis | February 20th, 2010

      winning mold said:

      “let’s close this site down!!!”

      You forgot to add “make it so”.

2714. Comment by Dan Brian | February 20th, 2010

      Hi Guys,

      Droobli reps have recently started spamming and promoting Droobli hard down under in Australia. I was approached by an associate for advice and to join and I submitted the following questions to him and the Droobli Management. I’ve not received a response and the red flags are troubling to say the least. Can someone please clear them up by reading my original email to Droobli at website – http (dots – slashes) bizspeaknogeek (dot) posterous (dot) com

2715. Comment by Dan Brian | February 20th, 2010

      Droobli Scam Evidence Goes Un-Contested is the heading of the post. If someone can clear it up for me that would be great.

2716. Comment by Shaun "Due Diligence" Premo | February 20th, 2010

      Dan Brian, why don’t you do your own “due diligence”? Why ask others to do it for you? You’re lazy enough to qualify for Droobli. They need bums like you.

2717. Comment by Leenie Wilkins | February 20th, 2010

      Let’s face it – you’d have to be pretty desperate to join droobli. To join something as inherently stupid as droobli. you have to listen to pathetic webinars and seminars with all the positive thinking crap. Then you have to badger every family member, relative or contact to join. You have to sound like you really believe it is a sound business idea while you corner people. You have to say “make money while you sleep” and “you make money when others click”. Then you have to say corny things like “this baby is going viral” or even “this thing is creating cash streams that can’t be stopped”. Only a moron or a completely amoral person could fall for this droobli crap.

      it has to be the worst business idea I’ve ever heard.

2718. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 21st, 2010

      Gene said -

      “Come to the world’s largest shopping portal. I’m not kidding”

      Gene, I’m on the EU GroobLi site (again!). There is no shopping portal button.

      It’s not there. It’s not there. It’s not there. It’s not there. It’s not there. It’s not there. It’s not there. It’s not there. It’s not there!!!

      830 million people….”apparently” 3 million customers

      Are they upset?

2719. Comment by Only Facts | February 21st, 2010

      Dan Brain.

      They are some excellent questions. I would be very interested to hear the rely, even though I doubt you will receive one.

2720. Comment by Only Facts | February 21st, 2010

      Sorry lets try that again.

      Dan Brian.

      They are some excellent questions. I would be very interested to hear the reply, even though history suggests you will never receive one.

2721. Comment by beavis | February 21st, 2010

      I should go to a Droobli meeting. I could sell them all seats for the next Goodrich Blimp flight

2722. Comment by Hindenburg Tickets | February 22nd, 2010

      I should go to a GroobLi meeting. I could sell them all tickets to the Hindenburg Blimp Flight. ]:)

2723. Comment by OhNoes | February 22nd, 2010

      Pull my finger and I shall fart on demand! YEAH!

2724. Comment by Jack Daddy | February 22nd, 2010

      Hi guys, just heard an ad on radio for Droobli and their business opportunity.

      Pretty sure it was advertising for a group called Droobli Global and they can be found at http://www.droobliglobal.com

2725. Comment by beavis | February 22nd, 2010

      Jack Daddy,

      I saw some hilarious quotes on that site:

      “Is Droobli a Publicly Listed Company?

      Yes, Droobli is a publicly listed company on the New York Stock Exchange. Our share values have gone up times 5 in just 2 months!”

      As we all know, Medianet (aka Droobli in the US) is nothing more then a “pink sheet” penny stock; they are not listed on the New York Stock Exchange.

      “Droobli is a large global online shopping and reverse auction site with millions of happy customers in the U.S. & Europe and will soon be a household name here in Australia.”

      “Millions”? Really? I thought it was total bullshit when they only claimed a “million” customers, but now it is plural! I see Drooblidiots have one common trait; the inability to perform due diligence. Or, maybe, I’m just mistaken. Maybe they are just liars.

2726. Comment by kees | February 23rd, 2010

      re. million/millions of customers:

      in the freshly released (yesterday)
      FORM 10-Q
      For the Quarterly Period Ended December 31, 2009
      of
      MEDIANET GROUP TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
      http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1097792/000116169710000156/form10q.htm

      (including Droobli financial data)

      (Net Income for these 3 months (Sept. 30 – Dec. 31, 2009) = $765,516)

      we find:
      ————————–
      Geographic Segmentation of our Customer base:
      Market — % of revenue contribution

      US — 48%
      Australia/New Zealand — 37%
      EU — 7%
      Canada — 5%
      Others — 3%
      Total — 100%
      ————————-

      Since there are only 2 droobli sites (EU and US) and the ‘incredibly successful’ eu site appears to only contribute 7% to Droobli’s global revenue, the other 93% have to come from the US site, which serves USA + Canada + Mexico + Australia + New Zealand.

      On the US site (serving all those countries mentioned above) there were nearly 120,000 registered customers in Dec 2009 (according to the well-informed droobli BA site “antipaper.worldpress.com”: “The surge is visible” – Dec 11).

      Now let’s presume the 120,000 have grown to about 150,000 registered customers.

      Doing a bit of “rough extrapolation” of the 93% revenue “into” the 150,000 customers number, this would “mean” 1% of revenue “equates” with 150,000/92 = 1613 customers …. so 1613 customers “per %” would “equate” for the EU site (7% revenue) to 7 x 1613 = 11,291 customers.

      Of course not a financialy sound “extrapolation”, but it gives us some kind of insight into the “proven success” of the Droobli-EU site

2727. Comment by kees | February 23rd, 2010

      sorry “150,000/92″ should be: 150,000/93 of course

2728. Comment by kees | February 23rd, 2010

      ps. the “Others” in the
      “Geographic Segmentation of our Customer base:
      Market — % of revenue contribution” entry
      probably refers to Puerto Rico, which is also ’served’ by the Droobli-US site

2729. Comment by Cal Elliot | February 23rd, 2010

      That’s it. I’m out of Droobli. It’s stupid and I’ve been lied to. It has no future. Millions of Droobli BAs having to share $700, 000. That’s ridiculous. Great business plan. I’m out Frank. You %#@@%##*!!!!!!!!

2730. Comment by kees | February 23rd, 2010

      Actually, no… the $765,516 is the net income for MEDG/Droobli…

      “Commission payable” apparently is only “$166,303″ … for 3 months for all BA’s

      see for yourself at:
      http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1097792/000116169710000156/form10q.htm

2731. Comment by Titanic Tickets | February 23rd, 2010

      This voyage is wonderful. I knew the tickets were expensive, but look at all of the amazing stuff. What a surprise, It’s a submarine too! These people are so good to us, the journey is way better than I thought. Those silly people in the lifeboats don’t understand.

2732. Comment by beavis | February 23rd, 2010

      Droobli BA’s are splitting a couple of million dollars. Still pathetic but not $166,303 (this was not a full quarter with Droobli part of MediocreNet). I did note the “20,000 square foot” facility in Florida shrank to approx. 10,000 square feet. All in all, these financials show Droobli isn’t doing dog squat except making a few hundred thousand a year for the stock holders on approx. $8,000,000 in gross revenues. If you are Droobli BA keep thinking about how this is going to pay for “million dollar bonuses”, Bentley automobiles and DroobliLand. If only one of you hit the talked about bonuses in 2009 you would have pushed the company heavily into the red. Apparently, that didn’t occur. Droobli is a small company that makes a few bucks for it’s owners; that’s it. The rest is all MLM bullshit.

2733. Comment by Madoff Tickets | February 23rd, 2010

      Based on the amount of associates who bought packages in those 3 months, approx 90% of the revenue came from BA’s buying packages, the rest is from Medianet, and customers. They lied to everyone, Bernie did way better than this!

2734. Comment by Harrison | February 23rd, 2010

      These last 5 or 6 posts are dynamite. I can’t believe the earnest Droobli BAs going around trying to recruit more suckers when this knowledge is available? I’m getting a sick feeling when I think Droobli is telling kids to borrow from their grandparents to get into Droobli.

      Is Droobli legal? Is it legal to treat people like this?

      I feel sick to think Droobli CEO Bobby Jensen is free to walk the streets like good people. That isn’t fair. “What goes around comes around”. “You reap what you sow”. All Droobli executives and Droobli BAs please think about these truisms.

2735. Comment by beavis | February 23rd, 2010

      Well, they are now a publicly traded company. So how do you explain this Gene. Oh, never mind; you’ll just babble something about future growth, yada, yada, yada. Jason Switzer shows how to pick them, too. Way to go Jason! Fortunately for you, anyone stupid enough to follow you is also too stupid to read a quarterly report. On the other hand, I’m sure you sunk your own little pittance into this “great business model”. What a maroon! What a ignoranimus!

2736. Comment by Universal Tickets | February 23rd, 2010

      (Moe Larry and Curly)

      Curly:
      Hey, I thought the global launch happens in March? :O

      Larry:
      They didn’t specify which parallel universe it’ll launch in.

      Curly:
      Gee they took us again! Wise guys huh?

      Moe:
      How many fingers do you see?(poke-smash-bonk!)

      Curly:
      EEEaayah! Ruff Ruff!

      Moe:
      Don’t you remember we bought Gold packages for that too, don’t you still have em?

      Curly:
      Coytinly! I want to get in and make some dough!

      Moe:
      Gimme those things and pay attention knucklehead!

2737. Comment by Guess again | February 24th, 2010

      think your so smart beav. All these aliases to claim same thing. It don’t mean much. There are just about 5 of you and you just make up lies and don’t listen. Whats wrong with free enterprise/ made us all well off. Hey just look at all my posts here and it will set you straight about the company. I told you before the European model changed. The bad old days are gone. New opportunities for all. Unforeseen I expect. Throws a wrench in the works. These jokers just run a scam site here and hope it works. It doesn’t. You just try to deceive or bad mouth about a great company. doing little to nothing and that just isn’t true. All plans don’t always work right the first time. Be patient. You fine folk who are trying to tear it down. But who cares. We have a shopping mall which is a global best standard. This is fact you can’t dispute. Its a very good time to be in. I said that lots of times you know. You know nothing beav don’t you seem to understand we have an online store and that is where the money or business is. Talk about lying. How many times does someone have to point that out to you? The fact is that people simply doing the auctions mean that we have customers who will shop with us. Whatever the auctions is not that big a deal and the company has a plan. Don’t step into some reason nothing is happening. You’ve been had. If you don’t like a game of chance fine. Its all set to take off. Relaunches are no big deal. You with me? You say you don’t like the auctions or the great deals there just go to the shop and you don’t need to buy any credits to get great deals. They sure like beating a dead horse here. You’re not going to stop.You people just try to stop honest work. Your figues are from scam sites. Its all lies. Careful people. people lie here every way.

2738. Comment by Landrew | February 24th, 2010

      Love you too Gene………

2739. Comment by Christine Hemingway | February 24th, 2010

      Warning Warning Warning

      To all Droobli business associates and Droobli customers.

      Do not post anything on this site. Do not engage in conversation with these people – they are scammers.

      These bloggers have blogs for many home based businesses – they make a lot of money from this site and many others.

      Every time someone comes onto this site, and clicks on the banners below ( see the ads below – I can actually see an advertisement for Droobli ) this site gets paid a fee.

      Go and look on google and type in a home business name, you will see this site and many others like it.

      What they do is drum up controversy and engage in bully tactics with people, which makes these people come back to the site and respond. And guess what, some people who do come to this site click on the advertising below and this site gets paid.

      These bloggers are the ones who need a real job, rather than praying on us Aussie battlers.

      I repeat do not post on this site.

      I have reported this site to google and other authoritities, so please stay away.

2740. Comment by beavis | February 24th, 2010

      Christine Hemingway,

      You are quite correct in all of your assumptions. Not only do we get paid a commission by “eaglescout” (the mastermind behind this blog) but we all get a million dollar bonus when Droobli closes down. “kees”, using his old CIA contacts, managed to gain access to Droobli SEC filings and manipulate the financial statements so that Droobli appears to be a pathetic, “fly by night” business when, in fact, it is a world-wide auction powerhouse rivaling eBay. “Only Facts” is the master spin doctor working simultaneously for both Fox News and MSNBC (the man has no morals). “Road Warrior” just kills people (that’s why don’t you see any successful BA’s; they just “disappear”). I’m really Pierre Omidyar, founder of eBay.

2741. Comment by Woo | February 24th, 2010

      I want this guy get paid so that they can keep the blog going, and make more people will stay away from Droobli… : P

2742. Comment by GroobLi Land Tickets | February 24th, 2010

      Just in:
      Tickets for sale, come get your tickets!
      Bobby Jensen designed an amazing new Amusement Park called GroobLi Land.

      This is way bigger than anything that has ever been done, including Disney Land and Jurassic Park!

      Alert!
      Amazing promotion will end Dec 31st 2010.
      Those who sell 2500 Gold packages will get a million dollar bonus, lifetime access to the park, and legal protection from your friends and family forever!

2743. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 24th, 2010

      Thanks for the greatest laugh in a long while, beavis

      And Christine Hemingway – thanks so much for posting that. I personally made forty grand off your post alone. I’m no longer an Aussie battler!

      PS – are you a BA?

      If so, would you like to have a “chat” some time?

2744. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 24th, 2010

      Gene – picking through your last post (seriously, are you ok?…you seem a little preoccupied with insanity lately)

      Anyway – one part struck a chord:

      “I told you before the European model changed. The bad old days are gone.”

      Two things-
      1. Can you clarify what the “bad days” were?
      2. Can you re-assure those who would like to join GroobLi today that a history of “bad days” is nothing to worry about?

2745. Comment by Only Facts | February 24th, 2010

      Oh Christine

      Warning people of the evils of blogging on this site by blogging on this site.

2746. Comment by Yeah, I noticed that! | February 24th, 2010

      Yeah, I noticed that too Only Facts.

      A Droobli person thinking there’s money to be made from crummy banner ads? Do they have any understanding of how business works? The purpose of this blog is information. The company who allows/facilitates the blog makes money from selling banner ads. It ain’t much. Also, the originator of this blog makes no money from the ads. He only gets use of the site in return for allowing ad space to be sold.

      Droobli people are weird. You’d think they’d know this simple fact. They have this paranoid delusion that somehow everyone’s making money on the internet. Even primary school children know about info sites with banner ads. Why don’t Droobli people?

      Again, it points to the fact that people drawn to Droobli are largely unsophisticated, unschooled, uneducated, lacking in technology knowledge, lacking in social skills, using, grafting, avaricious, amoral people who would do anything for a buck. Also, I think your average drooblidiot is one of these three-time loser people who don’t have much going for them. They’ve tried and failed at every MLM or direct marketing scam known to man. Droobli is just the next stop on the line to ultimate business failure.

      Have you tried working? Then getting a few job skills? Maybe do some part-time training? Sounds boring compared to a life in the wonderland of Droobliland with your own black servant and three 18 hole golf courses. Add in a Stepford wife and you’ve got the paradise called Droobliland.

2747. Comment by Stock Tickets | February 24th, 2010

      Seriously,
      The “GroobLi mutton” repeatedly said the world was going to be blown away when the financials are finally released, they were right! Look at how the market reacted to the bomb of truth on Tuesday.

      http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=MEDG.OB#symbol=MEDG.OB;range=5d

2748. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 24th, 2010

      Yeah, I noticed that! said –

      “Also, the originator of this blog makes no money from the ads. He only gets use of the site in return for allowing ad space to be sold.”

      Spot on!

      So when Christine Hemingway said –

      “I have reported this site to Google and other authorities…”

      Some Google dude is going to spit his coffee all over his computer screen and laugh until his nose bleeds.

      Also, these “other authorities” can only be the FBI, CIA, Mossad, Aust Federal Police, ASIO, NSA, ONI, Secret Service, Special Forces, Interpol and Starfleet.

      We are so screwed!

2749. Comment by beavis | February 24th, 2010

      The Road Warrior,

      Don’t worry; I know people at Starfleet.

2750. Comment by beavis | February 24th, 2010

      Can someone explain this 8-K form filed with the SEC? I’m just to simple to understand it

      “23-Feb-2010

      Change in Directors or Principal Officers, Financial Statements a

      Item 5.02 Departure of Directors or Certain Officers; Election of Directors; Appointment of Certain Officers

      On February 18, 2010, Steven Adelstein resigned from the Board of Directors of the Registrant. In his letter of resignation, filed herewith, Mr. Adelstein stated that he would put his disputes with the Registrant in writing. The Registrant had not received any written statement from Mr. Adelstein subsequent to the date of Mr. Adelstein’s letter through the date of filing this Report. “

2751. Comment by beavis | February 24th, 2010

      I see rats; rats jumping off of a sinking ship

2752. Comment by beavis | February 24th, 2010

      Holy cornflakes, Batman; look at this bio on Droobli’s management team:

      http://www.medianetgroup.com/management-team/

      Oh My God what a pathetic lineup! These guys couldn’t get a management position at the local Dairy Queen!

2753. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 24th, 2010

      Hahahaha!!

      Bobby Jensen – “Later, he was recruited by LEGO and was responsible for theme world development and designs”

      LEGO?

      Droobliland?

      It fits!

2754. Comment by Horace Blegg | February 24th, 2010

      Why no picture of Steven Adelstein?

2755. Comment by Horace Blegg | February 24th, 2010

      Ah, I see.
      Mr Adelstein has resigned and thus his picture has been removed.
      Stalinist purge anyone?

2756. Comment by beavis | February 25th, 2010

      Dean Mannheimer Update Call: Recording & Announcement List

      “GroobLi purchased new virtual servers, providing “unlimited scalability” – ready for huge expansion.”

      So they purchased “new virtual servers”? Wow, I’m impressed. . . maybe they can have a car wash fund raiser and get enough money to get a dedicated server someday or really hit the big time and co-locate. Bobby Jensen could buy five electric pencil sharpeners and try to make it into a big announcement like:

      “Bobby Jensen, CEO of Droobli, has utilized his business expertise and skills as a mechanical engineer to revamp Droobli’s office procedures and equipment. The Company has invested heavily in the latest, cutting edge high speed office automation devices in anticipation of an explosion of growth in 2010″.

2757. Comment by Lil Shane | February 25th, 2010

      Hey, what’s with all the drooblidiots worried about this site making money from banner ads? Isn’t Droobli supposed to be a company with millions of customers? So why the concentration on banner ads which cost about $10 a month? i just don’t get it.

      Are the drooblidiots really that dumb?

2758. Comment by Guess again | February 25th, 2010

      You people really take the cake. You call me names. Creep and all that. Evil am I? Beave, what side are you on? Do you believe any man can have a business of not? Whats it to you anyway? Why bother? Droobli’ll be big no matter what you small mind people do. Why do you love my name? You guys cant leave me alone. Big deal.

      Let’s talk business. What I like about the company is that it is a real business. It’s not something where you get this email a mile and a half long that you have to read and you still don’t know what it is until you pay stuff.I am sure you’ve seen those too. Know what I’m talking about? People! Just go to my site and get into a real business that sells real products and if you like try if you can find a savings. I still giving free cre*dits to those who register with me. And write my name on the online form. You’ll have to go to the second page to sign up and then on page 3 mention me. This is still ground floor people and we still need more associates. 100 million is not too many. This is how big Droobli will become, despite you people and your lies. Always lies. It’s taking time to build and grow and increase. Don’t worry about this site. Its all freaks. I thought of my own blog and I made it. Its about parrots. I’ll think more on that. You have my permission to do that. But you do it anyway. Is that just dopey? You just keep on being you! You like to twist the facts. Who care what you say now! Or simply moral or ethical? Keeping Droobli from growing. You cant stop it. All your lies. I still get checks. Big ones to. You save big time in the Xpress auction the first time you bid and buy. Who cares how many people lose their money? So what if someone clicks and doesn’t buy. this is what is wrong with america. Where have you been? Didn’t you know there is a guaranteed lowest price on the Internet? You can’t beat and everyone knows it. So don’t talk about scam until you know something for sure. It’s not right. You people are weird.

2759. Comment by Christine Hemingway | February 25th, 2010

      Road Warrior,
      No I am not a Droobli rep.
      I am keeping an eye on all bloggers who are scammers like yourself.

      Once again Droobli BA’s and customers stay away from this blog.
      New regulations, mean these cowards hiding behind blogs will be found and ruled illegal. That’s my job to find the illegal blogs.

      So yes I will keep coming back to this blog and warn people about you.

2760. Comment by Eugene | February 25th, 2010

      “Illegal blogs”?

      And just what precisely is illegal about said blogs?

      Incidentally, where is this blog hosted? I can cite American constitutional law, but I’m not assuming that the blog is hosted there. Still, I would imagine that most democracies have some kind of protection for freedom of speech.

      Christine Hemmingway presumably would prefer something closer to Stalinist Russia or Nazi Germany as far as freedom of speech goes .

2761. Comment by Charlie | February 25th, 2010

      Who’s lying?! Droobli is a bust, Everyone I know has lost $800 or more, I doubt Christine Hemingway is a real person but just incase, Hey Christine,, Fuck You.

2762. Comment by Horace Blegg | February 25th, 2010

      Hey Christine, Aussie battler my arse.

      Eugene – Christine earlier laid claim to being a citizen of this wide brown land so I would assume that the illegal blogs are breaching Australian Law.
      Not quite sure which laws though as Kevin hasn’t put his ban everything interesting on the interweb plan into action yet.
      Maybe it’s the OH&S Act as everytime I read another posting by one of the GroobLimbeciles I nearly fall off my chair laughing.

2763. Comment by beavis | February 25th, 2010

      Horace Blegg,

      Well, you’ve got a duty in Australia to keep Christine Hemingway and we here in the US have to keep Gene. Whatever it takes, we just can’t let the two breed.

2764. Comment by Christine Hemingway | February 25th, 2010

      Charlie, just what I expected from you people.
      Thanks, just what I needed to take you to the cleaners.

2765. Comment by beavis | February 25th, 2010

      Christine Hemingway,

      Poser.

2766. Comment by Only Facts | February 25th, 2010

      Christine.

      Out of curiosity, how long will it be before you take your own advice and stop blogging here?

2767. Comment by Casey Z | February 26th, 2010

      Back in September 09 I was approached to join up with “Droobli” as a BA. It all looked so good on the outside but I thought I would do my due diligence and find out a bit more about this “The next Ebay” blah blah blah. I have done my checking now, both on other sites and here. I have read (most)and have been silently reading here for the last month or so now and have come to the conclusion that there are a lot of Drooblidiots that come here to try unsuccessfully to defend their cause. I am assuming that some of them actually represent the Droobli company at a high level, and are trying to dispel any fears in visitors that come here to do their due diligence. Kees, Beavis, Only Facts, The Road Warrier, etc are doing a great service to the community in warning people to stay away from this complex scam, which in a short while will be exposed as just that.
      There are many Drooblidiots that have written here like Gene/Guess Again trying to defend themselves and Droobli…all wankers who have obviously not done their due diligence or have just decided to over look the facts and continue to scam and sucker honest hard working Aussies and others?
      In regards to one of the recent bloggers Christine Hemingway or whom ever she is? You have not done your due diligence and make threats to take this blog site to the cleaners, haaaaa. If in fact the accusations and facts here were false, then maybe so, but the are not, as some of the links will prove. please take time and have a look at these 2 videos
      1. http://www.youtube.com/v/YOKM1-tcb8k&hl=de&fs=1&rel=0
      2. http://www.youtube.com/v/0ACugyVwoK8&hl=de&fs=1&rel=0
      When you have done that then have a look at the Directors/management team of Droobli
      3. http://www.medianetgroup.com/management-team/

      Question? does there appear to be any similarities between the winner of the two cars Mr Dan Gibbons (which in itself is a miracle) and Director Martin A Burns???
      Please explain Christine and other Drooblidiots, I’m sure the ACCC in Australia would love to see this.

2768. Comment by Dan Brian | February 26th, 2010

      NEW SCAM EVIDENCE GOES UNANSWERED FOR A WEEK (OZ)

      Thanks Only Facts for the compliments and everyone who has added to the troubling “Scam Signs”. The great tragedy of scams is that what appears obvious to some is to others the “opportunity of a lifetime”.

      Some of those people will lose money, their jobs, families, and lives if the history of similar MLM scams repeats.

      I’m sure everyone here simply wants direct answers to real concerns. My evidence and questions have not been answered after 1 week of international coverage despite sending them to Droobli’s Official Blog, Communications Manager, and 2 mainstream journalists in Australia who are also pursuing similar facts,

      http://bizspeaknogeek.posterous.com/droobli-scam-evidence-goes-un-contested

      I’ve worked in media for years and continue to believe we have a responsibility as a community to shine the light on scheme’s that appear jaw dropping in their dodgy-ness but also to give them right of reply to possibly disprove serious evidence of dishonesty or misrepresentation.

      My evidence and questions have only been answered by anonymous personal attacks, abusive phone calls, and spam so I guess that means the evidence is damning. The mainstream journalists I’ve spoken to will finish Droobli off once a single story of customer financial ruin hits their desk. Droobli will then answer these hard questions and fix the problems or they are dead meat – maybe just another scam down the toilet of internet marketing history.

      Spread the word http://bizspeaknogeek.posterous.com/droobli-scam-evidence-goes-un-contested

2769. Comment by Dan Brian | February 26th, 2010

      I have 2 highly credible bloggers tracking the evidence to prove Droobli senior associates have engaged in Black Hat (unethical) Blog and Search Engine spamming and social media platform stuffing to try to stop more truth coming out about the scheme problem and to prevent the natural protest from hurting the recruit drive especially from those who see through the lies in forums like this.

      They must be FURIOUS that in Australia you get this site URL 2nd top result in a Google search for Droobli – hilarious, truth hurts eh Droobli?

2770. Comment by Casey Z | February 26th, 2010

      To Dan Brian, sorry I forgot to mention your name in my post as having done a wonderful job in trying to expose Dudli, Bobby Jensen and Co. for the frauds they are. Keep up the great work.

2771. Comment by Dan Brian | February 26th, 2010

      No worries Casey Z you too! I really think it’s important we leave the door open for any Droobli Associate or otherwise to keep detailed diary notes, income and expense records with their accountant, and certified bank statements of the income they receive from Droobli and come here to post it and prove us all wrong. After all, if I wanted to sell my business as a franchise or similar system I would need to prove trading and financial history to justify the price – Droobli associates are no different. If anyone can show that they have built and duplicated a successful Droobli business with even 2 other modestly successful recruits and no serious complaints against them for misrepresentation regarding the so-called “reverse auctions” I will publish and review their story in detail. I won’t hold my breath though.

2772. Comment by Dan Brian | February 26th, 2010

      For the apparently “experienced participants here like Gary Markhamlent – I encourage you to investigate Droobli’s claim to become in his words “the world’s largest shopping portal” because “portal” is the operative word.

      If you read Tom Ashlock’s response to this blog (and other negative press) he infers clearly Droobli are not in the “shopping business” and in his own words,

      “intend to use the early stage shopping model to grow GroobLi.com is an early stage shopping portal that aggregates shoppers on its website, and then sells those shoppers to major search engines and online merchants for click-through fees and revenue-share fees.” Source http://www.duba2z.com/pdfs/Response-to-Negative-Press.pdf

      I think if more of these associates read their Terms and Conditions (or my analysis of the nasty bits http://bizspeaknogeek.posterous.com/droobli-scam-evidence-goes-un-contested) they would see that Droobli is really an old hack affiliate site just like porn, pills, and ringtones are dressed up with modern sales tricks.

      The angle is to get you in with promises of riches and use your member and affiliate value to justify a sale to a larger firm at some point in the future.

      My personal bet is they take it to a couple million affiliates (i mean associates) and flog it to an aggregation or similar MLM affiliate site.

      If you read your Droobli terms and conditions http://us.droobli.com/info/13-Terms-Conditions it doesn’t matter whether you simply want to dispute a commission payment or your Droobli business is sold to Clickbank or Commission Junction – Droobli are not required to pay your a residual amount when they sell. Of course, you can fly the Cyprus the Tax Haven Droobli head office locale to try and sue them – of course you may need to pay Droobli legals costs upfront as well. Don’t trust me read your terms. Make your own mind up before you drop another cent.

2773. Comment by Knox Truasheim | February 26th, 2010

      I’ve been reading Christine Hemingway’s posts. They are very scary. The writing style is flat, awkward etc. – like an ESL English speaker. the pattern for drooblidiots to be these undereducated morons continues. Her greatgrandfather Earnest would be rolling over in his grave if he knew that precious Christine was one of those people who loves money more than life.

      By the way Christine, the internet shares the democratic values of countries like the USA, Canada, NZ, etc. Citicism of a company is allowed. I don’t Droobli wants to take on various bloggers in court and have them tell this or her story. By the way, I’ve printed off the most damning links if I ever have to face Droobli in court. Bring it on, bitch. I urge others to print off material from the damming links before Droobli hides the evidence.

2774. Comment by Joe Dixon | February 26th, 2010

      Careful, Dan Brian could be Gene’s smarter brother, Cletus !!!!!!!!!!!!

2775. Comment by Casey Z | February 26th, 2010

      Well, Dan Brian is certainly smarter than Gene. But that would not take much if you have read all his ramblings. Come on Aussie and the whole World, wake up and do your due diligence. Expose this big SCAM.

2776. Comment by Casey Z | February 26th, 2010

      Quote from Guess Again/Gene
      “All your lies. I still get checks. Big ones to. You save big time in the Xpress auction the first time you bid and buy. Who cares how many people lose their money? So what if someone clicks and doesn’t buy. this is what is wrong with america. Where have you been? Didn’t you know there is a guaranteed lowest price on the Internet? You can’t beat and everyone knows it. So don’t talk about scam until you know something for sure. It’s not right. You people are weird”.
      Blaa Blaa Blaa Ramble on with your bullshit.
      He is a seriously demented person especially when he stated “Who cares how many people lose their money” The big Cheques, please provide proof?? as Dan Brian has also requested today.

2777. Comment by beavis | February 26th, 2010

      What is the matter, Casey Z? Can’t you just take Gene at his word? I mean after all:

      “Sure talk a lot of nonsense trying to pollute the waters. I think all of this has been covered. Every issue here.
      Everyone doesn’t have to wear the same shoes. Nor does everyone like horse shoes. If you don’t like a game of chance fine. Click your heals. Come the first of the year or so if you only spend your free credits and don’t like the auctions or the great deals there just go to the shop and you don’t need to buy any credits to get great deals. They sure like beating a dead horse here. You’re not going to stop it as I can see it.”

      Still rambling since 2008.

2778. Comment by Sacha Milne | February 26th, 2010

      I was a Droobli Associate for the last 4mths, I read all the Terms and Conditions about them being able to sell the business or stop paying me at any time for any reason without explanation.

      Nothing convinced me until I saw this video revealing the truth about Michael H. and what he’s like when he’s not promoting the Droobli scam. Please watch closely you may see shades of yourself like I did.

      http://bit.ly/cDVyB4

2779. Comment by guess again | February 26th, 2010

      you people sit all day and do nothing but criticize others. Yeah, I’m making money but so are millions Jealous beav? You’ll never be rich without a business. I think that all you want and I can get you started. Droobli makes a site for you! why are you saying its a scam? Its helping millions get a business. That’s good. You don’t believe in Droobli because you haven’t tried it. Come to my site and you’ll get frr credits. Try it yourself and you’ll stop telling lies. This thing is big. its in magazines. Questions! Just trying to help out. You people are hypocrites. You judge and I’ll I have ever done is tried to help. But beav dont understand it. Do ya beav? Paying 80 cents isn’t the deal. I’ve said that. The deal is you take a chance when you pay 80 cents which you need to understand up front and you miss the chance to see the price and if you choose to buy the product you can and likely get a good deal. Its simple. Win-win as they say. everyone wins. What could be better? Its the best business model going. Join up and get lots of free credits. You see anyone can have an online store but you can’t generate any traffic. We sell just about anything you can find on the net worthwhile. Thats right beave. Big packages going out every day across america. With Droobli on the box? Scam you say? How is that? People get the lowest price anywhere and sometimes free delivery. You say all this stuff about delivery costing hundreds. More lies parrots. That’s just stupid. Although I say we are not to be satisfied with just low profits. We keep going forward as a company. Its growing like crazy. The auctions are where when the masses discover them and see that our prices go down instead of up they will see the value. It sounds cray but it works. The best new idea around. All of you can make money. So get into it or be quiet because you don’t know what your talking about. Is that fair? Do you ever play fair or just lies to feed the parrots. Just because some stupid ideas float around just shows ignorance of them don’t want anyone to succeed in something even though it’s just developing. My Droobli team is to getting this great info to the masses. Everyone and then can determine for themselves value without being influenced by some dopes that think they got all your answers. The nice thing to see if you can find any value with them. Now how fair is that? You’re not out anything to know our auctions and shopping mall. If you don’t want to do the auction and want to benefit from the rewards mall shopping program just click shop and forgo the auctions. Every time you bid you can buy at that time. Whats the scam? Buy if you want. Complete freedom. There is a lot of entertainment value here with Droobli. Try it.

      Ignore beave and Casey Z. They always say lies. Thats all they know to do instead of working. now the mall is massive and will become where America shops. You can just buy without credits and get stuff sent to the door. How good is that? How can the general public be against that? You put spin on it beav but you can’t. All the lies here questioning the honesty of the company and their willingness to disclose where the money goes. Dont insult my intelligence in your lies. But I don’t know how they would do that I suppose with each bid as you see the price they could have the list of bidders also. Maybe they will think its a good idea but the fact is they are still creating solutions for a lot of the Droobli initiatives. I mean they have the basic stuff up. Realise this is kind of a work in progress. Its growing rapidly. Money is being made there is nothing wrong with that! A new market place which is coming. You can put your own products for sale. It will compete with ebay big time. But Droobli isn’t a second hand dealer! Its the best new products around. Does that help. I understand your concerns those that are sincere but htey must be reasonable. Thanks to this blog I have made big money.

2780. Comment by Dale Smith | February 26th, 2010

      I’ve been looking at Droobli as a part time business.
      Tell me this, how can people lose money from Droobli, when the whole idea is to help people save money?

      Would you spend .80c on a credit to save $20. Of course you would?
      How much would it cost you in petrol to drive to the department store to buy this product?

      Droobli guarantee the best price on the internet.

      Also, what people fail to mention on this site is the reverse auctions are just a fun way to shop and to aggregate customers.
      The reverse auctions are a means to an end, to expose the online shopping mall. Droobli’s goal is to become the biggest online shopping mall, with all the major brand name companies.
      Sony, Apple, Avis, to name a few.

      Another thing is reverse auctions have been around for decades, they are totally legal, there are hundreds of reverse auction businesses in Australia, all approved businesses.

      Droobli have spent millions to bring this to market, and I just don’t understand what your motives are on this site.

      If people are checking businesses out on the net, I’m 100% certain they won’t be seeking advice from a blog site.

2781. Comment by beavis | February 26th, 2010

      Dale Smith,

      Read, moron, read. Droobli (OK, I’m typing slow for the dimwit) does not guarantee the lowest price on the net. It only has the local guarantee that almost every major brick and mortar has. The mall is not a bad deal; it just isn’t a big deal. What is a bad deal is throwing out $3,000 for a Droobli Gold level and having to renew it every year to maintain it while the money s l o w l y trickles back (if at all). You ask:

      “Droobli have spent millions to bring this to market, and I just don’t understand what your motives are on this site.”

      The answer is to take a virtual 2×4 (for you Aussies that’s a 38mm X 89mm piece of wood that is a little over a meter long) and break it off in Bobby Jensen’s ass. We hate scammers; we hate Bobby Jensen. Now I will step aside while the Fact Team rips you a new one.

2782. Comment by Marguerita | February 26th, 2010

      Attention GroobLi Associates: Why are you wasting so much time trying to convince guys who make it their life’s purpose to denigrate others and steal their dreams?
      This serves nobody. Spend your time building your extremely lucrative business now so they can eat their words in the future. We know first hand the extremely high level of intelligence of the people involved so what are you trying to prove? What does it matter what these guys think?
      People like us with vision are rare, and those who don’t have it will never see what we see.
      Come on people. Get back on track and pay attention to building your business. And we know these guys will be red faced in the long run. Be smart and stop arguing with people with whom you will never win. Success is the ultimate revenge. See you at the top GroobLi associates!

2783. Comment by beavis | February 26th, 2010

      Marguerita said:

      “Spend your time building your extremely lucrative business now so they can eat their words in the future.”

      “Spend” is the key word here. You might add “your money” while you’re at it.

      Marquerita also spewed, I mean said:

      “Success is the ultimate revenge.”

      Try this quote:

      “We read the world wrong and say that it deceives us.”
      - Rabindranath Tagore
      And your failure is

2784. Comment by Dale smith | February 26th, 2010

      oh beavis.

      you really don’t understand the droobli business model.

      When i buy a credit package I sell the credits and make a profit. Meaning I get my original money back plus profit.
      I am not investing $3,000 on gold package every year, i restock my credits from returns and keep the profits.

      That’s normal business.

      Now it’s all coming out, you hate Bobby Jensen, have you met him?

      A best price guarantee plus an additional 10% – not many companies give that guarantee – except for Bunnings.

      You really are misinformed, and if you are only blogging because you are an opposition company, which i m pretty sure you are, then shame on you.

      oh by the way, my mentor in Droobli made $80,000 last month, it just trickled into his account.

2785. Comment by beavis | February 27th, 2010

      “oh beavis. ”

      Oh, Dale smtih. . .

      “you really don’t understand the droobli business model.”

      Unfortunately, I do (Gene just expresses it better than you).

      “When i buy a credit package I sell the credits and make a profit. Meaning I get my original money back plus profit.”

      That’s the theory. Reality is you desperately give the tokens away with little or no return.

      “I am not investing $3,000 on gold package every year, i restock my credits from returns and keep the profits.”

      The only one that restocks is Bobby Jensen and company with your yearly $3,000 renewal.

      “That’s normal business.”

      Blow me.

      “Now it’s all coming out, you hate Bobby Jensen, have you met him?”

      Bo. I’ve only dealt with his spawn.

      “A best price guarantee plus an additional 10% – not many companies give that guarantee – except for Bunnings.”

      And Circuit City.

      “You really are misinformed, and if you are only blogging because you are an opposition company, which i m pretty sure you are, then shame on you.”

      All that I know is I’m $3,000 richer than you are and I’m in the IT industry.

      “oh by the way, my mentor in Droobli made $80,000 last month, it just trickled into his account.”

      Did I use “blow me” earlier (I hate to use the same insult twice on the same post)?

2786. Comment by beavis | February 27th, 2010

      Little typo:

      “Now it’s all coming out, you hate Bobby Jensen, have you met him?”

      Bo. I’ve only dealt with his spawn.

      should have been:

      No. I’ve only dealt with his spawn.

2787. Comment by beavis | February 27th, 2010

      “The torment of human frustration and Droobli, whatever its immediate cause, is the knowledge that the self is in prison, its vital force and “mangled mind” leaking away in lonely, wasteful self-conflict.”

      Elizabeth Drew and Beavis

2788. Comment by Casey Z | February 27th, 2010

      I will ask this again as I have had no response from anyone?. Please watch the 2 videos.
      1. http://www.youtube.com/v/YOKM1-tcb8k&hl=de&fs=1&rel=0
      2. http://www.youtube.com/v/0ACugyVwoK8&hl=de&fs=1&rel=0
      When you have done that then have a look at the Directors/management team of Droobli
      3. http://www.medianetgroup.com/management-team/

      Question? does there appear to be any similarities between the winner of the two cars Mr Dan Gibbons (which in itself is a miracle) and Company Director Martin A Burns???
      Please explain Marguerita, Dale Smith, guess again, Christine and other Drooblidiots, I’m sure the ACCC in Australia, AFP, the FBI and other law enforcement agencies would love to see this. I am guessing it would be classed by them as FRAUD!!!!

2789. Comment by Casey Z | February 27th, 2010

      Dale Smith, The reason that BA’s buy credit packages is to give a few away to prospective BA’s and customers.(In Europe they were giving 10 credits away at a time initially). If you give enough away you will need to purchase more. And if the people that you have given them to use these credits to have a look at the fabulous auctions and don’t commit to either being a BA or a customer then you are loosing money big time.
      Your mentor is making $80.000 a month, I bet that is in his sleep, HAAAAAA Pleas provide proof as this site has proven with all the info and links that Droobli is a complex Scam. But seeing as it’s COMPLEX I guess you Drooblidiots cannot see it.

2790. Comment by Bob | February 27th, 2010

      Dale Smith,
      I have a challenge for you and anyone else in GroobLi.
      Please answer these questions:

      1) What percentage of that $80,000, (or whatever you made so far) is from signing up other associates, vs. true residual income?

      2) Why are a few people bragging/exposing their income, what is the income based on, and what behavior does that promote?

      3) What is your retention rate for distributors and customers after 12 months?

      4) Why are people still pushing GroobLi with statements like “how GroobLi won in Europe” “the viral customer growth” and “more money is eventually made on customers than associates” when the facts are the opposite?

      5) Why was more than 95% of the 14 million GroobLi made from Oct. 2008 to Oct. 2009 from signing up associates, when there was supposed to be millions of customers in Europe?

      6) Why is the pattern from China, to Europe, to the US, to Au. the same: for a year or so people buy a ton of packages, it fizzles out and the customer component never kicks in. They move to the next continent, while the failure of the previous continent is magically hyped into an epic success?

      7) And last but not least; If the people who have made $80,000 a month say that a gold package is worth $70,000 by the end of 12 months (just on customers alone) why don’t they offer to buy the millions credits from 95% of people who have historically bought credits but quit? ( http://www.duba2z.com )

      I look forward to the answer.

2791. Comment by Only Facts | February 27th, 2010

      Dale & Marguerita

      Please answer this question. Can you supply any independent documentation that can verify any claim Droobli has made?

      Also to everyone else. Could you help me please. I need everything that has been proven a lie that has come from Droobli. Thanks.

2792. Comment by beavis | February 27th, 2010

      Drooblidiots don’t deal with facts; only dreams and promises. They are the financial equivalent of a dying cancer patient buying Chaga mushrooms as a last hope cure.

2793. Comment by Marguerita | February 27th, 2010

      Hi guys. Firstly, I am not going to enter into your current conversation because it really is a bit pointless. I am not here to convince somebody who will never be convinced. It’s a waste of energy and I respect your opinion which, thanks to freedom of speech, you have every right to air on a public forum. What I will say is this: yes, we are dreamers. Believe it or not, without dreamers you would not have electricity or cars or computers or telephones or radios or any one of the hundreds of gadgets that you use on a day to day basis and facilitate your lifestyle. Guglielmo Marconi was almost committed to an asylum by his friends because he believed he could send radio waves through the air to a receiver. He went on to create the first wireless or radio. Thomas Edison ‘failed’ more than 10,000 times before creating the electric light bulb. Though he says never failed once, he just discovered 10,000 ways that it wouldn’t work. Dreamers create the world we live in today and I am happy to be one of those.
      Great achievers do not spend their time denigrating and abusing others and telling them how stupid they are and how they are going to fail, but dream of how they can help and serve others to achieve what they never believed possible. I am talking about people like visionaries such as Oprah, Richard Branson, Wayne Dyer, Bill Gates, and the list goes on.
      Am I am in their league? No. Do I aspire to be? Absolutely! Will GroobLi facilitate that? Hopefully. Are there any guarantees? Never! As dreamers do we fail? Often! Do we get back up and try again? You bet, because we strive to make the world a better place and we push the envelope time and time again until, eventually, we succeed. You see, success doesn’t happen overnight. It takes time and effort and courage and vision.
      I respect that there are those of you who do not see what I, and many others see. There is nothing wrong with that. I respectfully ask that you honor our right to dream and not denigrate our intelligence or abuse our personal choice of journey.
      I invite everybody on this forum to hold true to your vision, whatever that may be, and respect others visions, and make the world a better place.
      Love your work guys. Public debate is very healthy, particularly when we respect the opinions of others.

2794. Comment by the Avenger | February 27th, 2010

      Dear Dale Smith, I’m an Aussie too. How’s this. I’ll give you $20 000 if you can prove that your nameless mentor made $80 000 from Droobli in one month. It’s impossible. Here, we’ve all been over the figures which are readily available on the net.

      Droobli Europe had 105 customers in one month late last year, This is despite Droobli’s claim that they have 3 million customers in Europe. Dale, do you realize that Droobli people just tell lies? In the last quarter of last year the total amount of money paid to Drooblidiots (aka Droobli BAs) was $166, 000. Do you understand that Dale? The total amount paid to Droobli BAs in the last quarter of 2009 was $166,000. I said it twice so it would sink. That is world droobli !!!!

      But you come here like a horse’s ass saying your nameless mentor made $80 000 in one month. Do you understand why you’re just a gullible idiot? The $80 000 didn’t happen. Are you just a total moron or what? droobli loves idiots like you….

2795. Comment by Bob "Open Fly" Phillips | February 27th, 2010

      Marguerita is hilarious. Apparently, Droobli BAs arenoble dreamers trying to give the world the next innovation like electricity. Perhaps Bobby Jensen should be given the No9bel Peace Prize.

      Honestly, Marguerita Drooblidiots aren’t dreamers. They are uneducated fools without much going for them in their lives so they will grasp at anything. The average drooblidiot has tried every MLM scam known. Tried and failed. They are evil money hungry people who want something for nothing. WE don’t need or want another middleman. That’s what droobli is. It’s totally unnecassary. I have plenty of shopping options. I don’t need the crummy business model of Droobli.

      We are sick of people using family and friends for their crappy MLM scams. All you drooblidiots want is more money. You don’t care who you hurt. You’d sell your own mother if you could get away with it. You drooblidiots make me sick and you have no right to be walking around free instead of being in jail.

2796. Comment by Marshall Duke | February 27th, 2010

      I believe if you’ve tried and failed at various MLM or direct marketing schemes or are you up against the wall with no job prospects, my advice to you is this: Please get involved with Droobli.

      Just face your destiny. You were destined to join droobli and fail at that too. You can’t escape your DNA. Go ahead sign up with the dream of making millions. After you lose your money with Droobli there are plenty of other MLM scams that make the same promises. Use the same cliches.

      Enjoy your destiny losers!

2797. Comment by Marguerita | February 28th, 2010

      Hmmmm. I can see my request for respect has gone unheeded. I’m sorry (for you) that you have seen fit to brand me uneducated, a failure, and a loser, particularly as you have no idea who I am or how amazing my life is through service to others. I help others exceed their potential all the time. And I continue to aspire to achieve greater and greater things in my life and help others do the same. My motivation with GroobLi is to help others. It is who I am. I work in the space of unlimited potential for all human beings. It’s a shame you have no intention of meeting me in that space. I am glad I am a source of amusement for you. Laughter is a great healer. I’ll leave you now to get your jollies from making fun of others because it would appear that you are not going to even attempt to raise yourself beyond that. What a waste of what are obviously good minds with amazing potential. Cheers all.

2798. Comment by beavis | February 28th, 2010

      Marguerita said:

      “Hi guys. Firstly, I am not going to enter into your current conversation because it really is a bit pointless.”

      Au contraire, Marquerita, there is a very specific point that has been hammered home time and time again; you Drooblidiots will not, cannot respond to any questions that do not have happy answers. You babble just like the rest and avoid answering the very legitimate questions presented to you. As the majority of these questions involve the conflict in Droobli’s claims that fly in the face of proven facts, some of which have been provided by Droobli itself, you need to answer them or accept your new label. Now, it may be easier to dance around the questions, but, rest assured, you are labeled. I see in your last post you have tried to relabel yourself as a dreamer, visionary and valiant entrepreneur. I can assure you that you are still clearly labeled. . . a scamming cockroach. You see, when you ignore the facts because they get in the way of you trying to make money, when you mislead others by failing to disclose information that you knew or should have known just from reading this blog, when you promote pyramid scheme as a legitimate business, you have succeeded in becoming a scammer. Congratulations. Please feel free to use your new, well deserved label as an official title, granted by us to you, on all of you Droobli business correspondence and especially your business cards.

2799. Comment by Casey Z | February 28th, 2010

      Margaritta, I have read your ramblings on and yes dreams are fine but I guess you did not look at the links I posted re the 2 Car Auctions and the Droobli directors? If everything was above board with Droobli, then the Droobli Director Martin A Berns would not have to pose as Dan Gibbons and fraudulently try to convince people that the Auctions are above board!! You take Droobli on face value without doing your due diligence, or you just don’t care whom you eventually hurt. I guess it’s a bit like sticking your head in the sand like an Ostrich, what I can’t see won’t hurt me. Unless you can prove that we are wrong in our investigations, which should be easy for you? please don’t come here trying to defend Droobli. (But its good in one way as your (and other Drooblidiots) blogs on this site will soon give us a higher Google search ranking than Droobli)

2800. Comment by Jack Daddy | February 28th, 2010

      Margarita,

      All for dreaming and all that, but when it’s blatantly obvious that something is a scam and someone chooses to continue with it believing they will get where they are desperately hoping to be, then said person probably deserves to get burnt.

      Fact upon fact has been put up here proving that Droobli is nothing but a scam. I don’t expect you to back over every post and look for said facts, but I assure you they are there. Some people on here, after promoting the sh!t out of Droobli and scolling its kool aid, eventually became anti-Droobli after carefully reading the facts presented to them.

      I think the fact that in the last quarter of 2009 only $166K was paid in commissions to Droobli BAs paints a pretty obvious picture – there’s bugger all money to be made out of Droobli.

      The only people making money are guys like Bobby Jensen, Dean Mannheimer and Rik McCoy.

2801. Comment by Marguerita | February 28th, 2010

      BTW, Casey Z, in answer to your question about the videos, apart from the receding hair line for the winner of the car and Mr Berns, there is not much similarity. Compare the broadness of the noses, how far apart the eyes are set, the width of the jawlines, where the tips of their ears are in relation to their heads. The receding hairline is where the similarities end. Also, Lloyd and Courtney Swift bought the Mustang, not Dan Gibbons. I believe Courtney and Lloyd are part if Dan’s GroobLi team. Hey if you want, why not ask Dan Gibbons himself at dan@dvgibbons.com. His details, including his phone number, are on the end of this you tube video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SRJn8Rxm1c&feature=channel where he is raising money for the family of his brother Tom who died from cancer in May of last year. Talk to the man himself to put an end to this nonsense and let us know what he says please. Perhaps you can ask him for tips as to the strategies he and his friends are using to pick up some amazing deals at GroobLi. Cheers boys. Marguerita

2802. Comment by Marguerita | February 28th, 2010

      Interesting. I don’t know where you get your ‘facts’ from because I know for ‘a fact’ that that figure you are referring to is a load of you know what as the combined total for my team alone in Australia was way in excess of that. Thankfully I didn’t believe your scare mongering, because GroobLi is one of the best things that has ever happened to me and many people I know. YAY GroobLi! Anyway, so much for not getting drawn into your game. Have fun arguing about it. I’m out of here. Have a great life.

2803. Comment by Casey Z | February 28th, 2010

      You too Marguerita, You obviously need glasses also, and I’m guessing Droobli management has brainwashed you into posting here to try and defend their fraudulent activities.
      “I know for ‘a fact’ that that figure you are referring to is a load of you know what as the combined total for my team alone in Australia was way in excess of that”. Please provide the proof, not just the verbal bullshit.

2804. Comment by Bob | February 28th, 2010

      Marguerita,
      I respect your intentions. Perhaps you do not know the truth yet. I was in a similar position as you, very successful in GroobLi.

      If you read some of my previous posts I defended GroobLi as a visionary who wanted to help people too, as an entrepreneur like yourself I also wanted to make some money. As an educated multiple business owner, I saw the potential.

      Unfortunately after several months when I found out the key reasons I joined GroobLi were not true, I had to make a decision.

      At that point there were already hundreds of people in my Droobli down line, and I did make good money. My stomach started to sink as I knew I was partly responsible for their decisions. More importantly though, I knew I was now faced with a decision. Disclose any truth I found out moving forward, or I could ignore everything I found out and stayed aligned with all of the “vision” being presented by some.

      Finding that I was now responsible for a half a million dollars spent by hundreds of people, I admitted I was wrong. I was duped. But I did want to assess how I got here, make the necessary adjustments, continue down the road of truth to eventually arrive at a successful solution that will truly benefit many. Edison had this attitude as well.

      Even if you ignore all of the other things that are unethical about GroobLi, look at this one thing. Residual income.

      Although I was not in the team spearheading most of Australia, I did use their webinars at http://www.duba2z.com and http://www.smartwinshop.com .

      Think about these questions:
      Did viral customer growth and residual income have anything to do with you or anyone else in your team joining Droobli, as we see presented by these top people?

      What if you found it was not true, and never happened?

2805. Comment by Bob | February 28th, 2010

      “Friends, there is great value in disaster. Look, all of our mistakes have been burned up. Thank God we can start anew.”

      ~ Thomas Edison after his laboratory burned to the ground

2806. Comment by beavis | February 28th, 2010

      For the record, the “$166K ” in Drooblidiot compensation is not correct. That figure is what MediocreNet owed in outstanding commissions at the end of 2009; not the amount paid out over the course of 2009. After reading the SEC filing for 2009 and trying to separate out the mall portions ongoing operation, Droobli is bringing, by my estimation, five million dollars per quarter of which approx 2/3 is paid out in direct costs including commissions (Droobli was only part of MediocreNet in the last quarter of 2009). As the quarterly report does not get that granular it is hard to tell exactly how much the mall operation brings in verses what the auction brings in and how much of the mall operation is attributable to Drooblidiots. Overall, I see two things; Droobli is not spending much to facilitate the expansion of it’s operation and the “Business Associates” are doing a poor job in their place. Summation: Bobby Jensen’s paycheck will cash and Droobli BA’s will still be ordering from the dollar menu.

2807. Comment by Terry Jacobs ("TJ") | February 28th, 2010

      Marguerita – you said:

      “My motivation with GroobLi is to help others. It is who I am.”

      Marguerita – you are a great comedian. So all this time you’ve been waiting for Droobli to come along so you can “help people”? Does it strike you as amazing that this blog contains the comments of hundreds of people and many of them ex-drooblidiots and to a person they hate Droobli with a passion. Don’t they realize what a charitable agency droobli is? Perhaps you could collect door to door for Droobli. I’m sure people would want to give to this wonderful charity.

      Now, Marguerita, the drooblidiots who come here tell a different story. Not one has said that they are in Droobli “to help people”. They all claim to be in it “for the money”.

      Are you sure you’re in the right place? Why not phone up local charities and volunteer your time to help them. To help real people in need.

      Your claims of sainthood for yourself ring pretty hollow from where I sit. You drooblidiots always lie. Your spin to say Droobli is something like the Salvation Army is certainly new spin. Your capacity to not only lie to others but to lie to yourself is amazing. You deserve Droobli. Please keep paying your yearly fee. That is the best revenge I can think of for a person like you.

2808. Comment by kees | February 28th, 2010

      Re. comment 2790 by Bob:

      those are great questions Bob.

      I highlighted some worrysome things exactly about that in a post on the australian whirlpool forum:
      http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?r=22891410#r22891410

      On the *DJ Doubler* BA team site (that’s the Droobli BA team with Dean Mannheimer, Tom Ashlock and Brad Dolyle as main members) are some pdf’s dating from Feb. – Aug. 2009, explaining the Droobli BA Compensation plans, and in those pdf’s it says:

      Feb. pdf: “Note: on all the ranked positions, the personal customer requirement is waived until March 2009″

      March pdf: “Note: on all the ranked positions, the personal customer requirement is waived until April 2009″

      Aug. pdf: “Important note:The customer requirements mentioned below are waived until further notice, probably January of 2010, at the earliest”

      So, what does this mean?
      BA’s get paid to get more BA’s signed up, and they don’t have to care about signing up actual retail end consumers?
      Isn’t this beginning to look like some sort of pyramid scheme?

      And… what does Bobby Jensen think about this?
      To find out, please read my post there, including links and screenshots.

      (sorry I don’t post here often anymore, this thread is becoming a bit too long and cumbersome/slow to ‘handle’ for me, and unfortunately the software here is rather limited regarding editing and html-like stuff)

2809. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 28th, 2010

      Let’s get back to Christine Hemingway for just a sec…

      “I am keeping an eye on all bloggers who are scammers like yourself.”

      All bloggers? In the whole world? Wow – you must be a machine.

      Also, can you please list your evidence that I am a “scammer”? I’d hate to get into, say, a court battle with you and have to win a defamation suit becuase you made a baseless claim

      “New regulations, mean these cowards hiding behind blogs will be found and ruled illegal. That’s my job to find the illegal blogs.”

      Christine – I’m fascinated to hear about this. Can you please provide more detail?

      “So yes I will keep coming back to this blog and warn people about you.”

      But you said…

      “Do not post anything on this site. Do not engage in conversation with these people”

      Hmmm

2810. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 28th, 2010

      Also – it’s March 1st in Australia!!

      Is it launch day??

      I’m going to the GroobLi website to check it out. Hang on…

      I’m back. Sorry to say, but the news isn’t that great. There is no Aussie portal. There are 227 items on the US website today, 39 of which are avaiable to Aus and NZ. I’ve checked the usual media sources. No results there either.

      Maybe it’s not launch day. Can anyone please confirm?

2811. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 28th, 2010

      Dale Smith –

      “Tell me this, how can people lose money from Droobli, when the whole idea is to help people save money?”

      Here’s how (maths 101)

      Item – $100
      Bids – 400
      Price reduced to – $0

      -1 person gets a cheap item
      -Less than or equal to 399 people get NOTHING. They lose. They had money and the end of the auction, they had less money, and no item By definition, that is losing money.

      Or let’s take the more realistic explanation for my auction example (that one that goes down to $0), where we safely know now that it’s just one BA dumping their credits to try and redeem SOMETHING from their investment failure. Once again, spending 400 credits that are worth 80c each on a $100 item…hmmm, do I even need to solve that?

      “Would you spend .80c on a credit to save $20. Of course you would? How much would it cost you in petrol to drive to the department store to buy this product?”

      Is a STUPID argument. If I drive to a store and spend $3 in petrol doing that, and then want to buy a $200 iPod, I’m not competing against anyone for that iPod. I just go get it. In GroobLi….what? I have the luxury of spending that $3 in credits to “maybe” get the iPod for $50 less? If I’m in the EU and competing against 105 other people, WOW!!!!
      Then I find that I missed it and need to start again. Then I come up against a “BA Cresit Dumper” who steals it off me again. And so on…

      Smart people can see this business “plan” is juvenile.

      “The reverse auctions are a means to an end, to expose the online shopping mall.”

      Really? And are you going to be our hero and tell us where the EU shopping mall is? And how having 105 unique visitors in a month can possible “aggregate” enough customers to make it worthwhile?

2812. Comment by Jack Daddy | February 28th, 2010

      Wasn’t it March 3rd?

2813. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 28th, 2010

      You could be right

      Could be a “soft” launch today
      And then a “slightly harder” launch on Wednesday

      Was just looking at some of the silly GroobLi propaganda sites like this one where they say March 1st

      http://www.pcum.teamdroobli.net/

      May they forgot…

2814. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 28th, 2010

      typo, sorry….

      Maybe they forgot

2815. Comment by beavis | February 28th, 2010

      Ah, here we are, fast approaching the next “big” launch. I was there for the really big one on April 4th, 2009 launch that was the one that was going to cause Droobli to “explode” worldwide. I did miss the key launch that was going to “explode” in the US on October 4th, 2008. It’s all led up to this. The previous launches, the hard work by the BA’s, the BA’s financial commitment, especially the BA’s financial commitment; it all will pay off with this next big, big launch. . . or not

2816. Comment by The Road Warrior | February 28th, 2010

      5pm here in Melbourne. Nothing major happening. I’ve got a fair view of the city skyline from my desk….no GroobLi banners or tokens being thrown around. No media.

      I’m going outside for a better look…

2817. Comment by beavis | February 28th, 2010

      Careful. . . you never know where the crowds are forming.

2818. Comment by beavis | February 28th, 2010

      Make sure you don’t have any objects in your pockets; if they think you have tokens they can become violent.

2819. Comment by Jack Daddy | March 1st, 2010

      Should Droobli not launch by the end of this week, I want every pro Droobli person on here to admit they fucked up and that Droobli is a joke.

      No ifs or buts, admit you were wrong and that you’ve been sucked in.

      Given recent ‘launch’ history with Droobli, I reckon this is only fair.

2820. Comment by beavis | March 1st, 2010

      Yeah, but the track record of Drooblidiots is to go silent, allow a little time to pass, get vocal as the next “launch” looms and then you know the rest. Damn, they are stooopid. Bobby Jensen has got it down; wash, rinse, repeat.

2821. Comment by Party at the End of the World | March 1st, 2010

      I am reporting from several locations across Australia. The whole country is going Droobli crazy! All newspapers are full of Droobli stories! The TV is nothing but droobli! Everywhere I look I see Droobli signs, Droobli parades, cars painted with the word Droobli! In the streets people are dancing and hugging each other grateful that Bobby Jensen has chosen Australia to “bless” with his Droobli scheme. Kids are crying because they know that now their fathers will have financial independence. Droobli cola is taking over from Coke. Drooblibay has crushed ebay. Microdroobli is the world’s biggest computer company. Buy an air ticket to Australia!!! You gotta be part of this !!!!

2822. Comment by beavis | March 1st, 2010

      These launches are exhausting. Sorry, Party at the End of the World, all plane tickets and cruise lines have been fully booked up as the entire world converges on Australia in a Droobli frenzy, I even tried to charter a plane but with the now worldwide shortage of Droobli tokens I had no way to pay for it. Wait! What am I thinking! I’ll bid for it on Droobli! It will only cost me one token (what use to 80 cents US when that currency was used)!

2823. Comment by beavis | March 1st, 2010

      News Flash! Droobli is going into all third world countries and will be taking over the entire distribution of food in those areas. The lucky winners of the auctions will eat and will get to survive. The others that lose and starve, well, they had fun shopping, right?

2824. Comment by Bad Turkey | March 1st, 2010

      March 1st came & went and the only thing I heard in Newcastle was a paid advert on KOFM. Anyone else heard anything?? Even my Droobli friends are silent.

2825. Comment by kees | March 1st, 2010

      Here’s Droobli’s official twitter account:

      http://twitter.com/GroobLiCorporate/

      last message:
      —————————
      #iBelieve that GroobLi is going to ROCK Australia, launching today. We have blastoff!

      (about 7 hours ago via web)
      —————————

      Note: “global” time of posting my comment is about:

      USA time:
      Pacific Time Mountain Time Central Time Eastern Time
      11:43:00 12:43:00 13:43:00 14:43:00

      Australia time:
      Tuesday, 02 March, 2010 06:43:00 AEDST
      Sydney, Australia

      so, substract 7 hours

2826. Comment by The Road Warrior | March 1st, 2010

      Well, here we are….March 2nd…8:45am Australian time

      http://www.droobli-australia.net.au/droobli.html

      Here it says the following:

      “GroobLi Australia / NZ auctions began with a mini launch on the U.S. website on 4 November, 2009. The Global Launch is scheduled for 1 March 2010″

      http://droobliaustraliannetwork.com.au/

      The following:

      “GroobLi Australian platform opening March 1 2010″

      http://www.prlog.org/10399314-droobli-sets-shopping-portal-open-date-for-australia-new-zealand.html

      This:

      “After a much anticipated Fall 2009 launch in Australia and New Zealand, GroobLi plans to open its virtual shopping portal doors to customers on March 1, 2010″

      And so, logically, I am now going to the main GroobLi website to have a look at the Australian portal.

      The battery must be flat on my Internets.
      I can’t see the Aussie portal.

      Help?

2827. Comment by Global dublin | March 1st, 2010

      Any truth to the rumor that both Chile and Haiti refused Droobli permission to launch in those countries? Coincidence? I think not!

2828. Comment by Only Facts | March 1st, 2010

      Noon. Tuesday 02-03-10. Sent to back offices.

      News
      textitem2.tpl:
      news_detail.tpl:
      01/032010 Launch Australian Shopping Mall
      We are happy to tell you that we will announce the opening of the Australian shopping Mall in a soon upcoming newsletter. The Mall will be ready within days we are just finishing last tests.

2829. Comment by beavis | March 1st, 2010

      Umm. . . I thought the launch was the shopping mall as Australian shoppers (all three of them) were relegated to shopping on the US site. So what the f@#k did they launch? “We have blastoff”? Sounds like a circle jerk to me.

2830. Comment by The Road Warrior | March 1st, 2010

      Possible reasons why the “launch” never happened:

      1. The Launch button was next to the Destruct button and Gene was in charge of pushing it

      2. The Launch button and the Destruct button do the same thing

      3. Talk of the “launch” over the past months was intended to drive up interest from Australians on the auction portal. But with the ridiculous shipping costs contributing to no saving whatsoever, an extremely limited range of products and an entirely joyless business plan, Australians did what Americans and Europeans have been doing for a while now – ignored it.

      Australian launch = FAIL

2831. Comment by Albert Gore | March 1st, 2010

      I urge all Droobli members to think about the waste generated by Droobli. Currently some Australian Droobli members are buying their products from the US. This is causing an increase in pollution. The ships and airplanes that bring the products to Australia are creating pollution. I urge all Australians to buy locally (as close to home as possible) to reduce pollution.

      Think globally, act locally. We can do this, people.

2832. Comment by beavis | March 1st, 2010

      I hear a strange silence. . .

2833. Comment by Casey Z | March 1st, 2010

      Where are all the Drooblidiots raving on about the fantastic March 1st 2010 launch into Australia??? Marguirita please explain, you and the others true believers are vary quiet now.
      Maybe you will find the answers here http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1278895&p=59
      It would be interesting to hear your response.

2834. Comment by kees | March 1st, 2010

      I hear a very familiar silence…

2835. Comment by Marguerita | March 2nd, 2010

      Hi boys. I’m back. Well, it appears I have to eat my words. Lo and behold a local PCYC (Police and Citizens Youth Club) have just become involved in GroobLi. Well, if the police have anything to do with it, then it must be a scam! Eat my shorts. The local Aussie site is due to be launched in days it has just been announced they are in the final testing phase. Get off your high horse Mr Casey who can’t tell the obvious difference between 2 balding men when they are clearly different identities. BTW, Did you get in touch with Dan Gibbons? Or don’t your dodgy investigation techniques stretch to using a modern device called a telephone. I can’t be bothered reading your posts to find out. Hope you had a good conversation. Anyway, I guess you boys are still having a nice stoush because you obviously have nothing better to do but I’m not wasting my time reading to find out. Just wanted to add fuel to the already raging fire! Fortunately, I have a life. LOL
      CIAO

2836. Comment by The Road Warrior | March 2nd, 2010

      Marguerita

      “The Police-Citizens Youth Welfare Association is a public not for profit company. Queensland Police-Citizens Youth Clubs facilitate and encourage participation in sporting, recreation, cultural and welfare programs with an aim to improving the lives of individual members and the development of local communities throughout the state.”

      From http://www.pcyc.org.au/about-pcyc/index.php

      While it’s disappointing to hear about an organisation like this (or anyone for that matter) joining GroobLi, it should be noted that this is NOT the Police Force. There are 47 branches of the PCYC in QLD alone (and god knows how many more in the other states….I didn’t get that far). And what are you saying? That one local branch has become involved with GroobLi? Wow, I’m breathless!

      But something else that takes my breath away even more is this Australian launch that didn’t happen. We all saw Only Facts’ post and the info from the forum below detailing exactly the same information as you provided.

      http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1278895&p=59

      Do you have any original facts at all, or are you regurgitating what some silly GroobLi press release has told you?

      As a matter of fact, we are having a lovely time pointing out the shortcomings of GroobLi YET AGAIN for ANOTHER example of failing to meet a target date.

      “Fortunately, I have a life”

      Sure you do. For a while.

2837. Comment by The Road Warrior | March 2nd, 2010

      One other thing -

      Back in post 2804, Bob asked you 2 questions which you have not addressed. I’m personally very keen to see your response to those. Surely you don’t want to fall into the inevitable category of GroobLi reps who never answer legitimate and extremely important questions put to them?

2838. Comment by Casey Z | March 2nd, 2010

      Marguerita says “Lo and behold a local PCYC (Police and Citizens Youth Club) have just become involved in GroobLi”. Well, they obviously did not do their due diligence and when they find out it was all a scam, they will call the police and come after you Marguerita and don’t forget the Droobli terms and conditions…You are responsible for your business, not Droobli.
      In the not to distant future you will be eating your words.

2839. Comment by Marguerita | March 2nd, 2010

      Oh. I know somebody is going to pick up on the fact that the PCYC is community run, etc, etc. However, they do have close affiliation with the Police and activities are overseen by the police cause that’s kinda the point of the org – to have a liaison between the community and the Police.
      I really hope you guys are spending heaps of time replying to my posts cause I ain’t gonna read them. I’m just loving putting stuff out there and thinking you’re wasting your time replying! This is kinda fun!

2840. Comment by Casey | March 2nd, 2010

      Please do Marguerita, It really shows what a Drooblidiot you are, and also shows others looking to find out more about this Droobli business opportunity (Due diligence) what a SCAM it really is.

2841. Comment by Bob | March 2nd, 2010

      Marguerita,
      With all due respect,
      To NOT read these posts would be unwise.
      I believe you are too smart to NOT know what most of your potential business partners are finding out and how to address the issues. Unless Google folds soon this site is the first thing they see…and how you deal with facts are front and center to your credibility.

2842. Comment by kees | March 2nd, 2010

      Bob, just out of curiousity: when did you register at Droobli? And did you first register as a customer or right away as a BA (or Partner)?

      Thanks in advance

2843. Comment by Eve Powesland | March 2nd, 2010

      Marguerita has changed. Her first post was full of mocking confidence. She also claimed that Droobli is virtually a charitable organization whose sole aim was “helping people”.

      She now knows the reality is so different. Marguerita, how much do you expect to make from Droobli? We can’t find anyone who has even made $20 000 in a year. Hardly worth giving up your day job for.

      I’m not going to lose all my friends and alienate my family for $15 000 a year. Droobli is social poison. Even $15 000 is more than 99% of what drooblidiots will ever make.

      Droobli? No thanks.

2844. Comment by Only Facts | March 2nd, 2010

      Marguerita

      As a participating parent in PCYC, your claims amaze me. In fact they disgust me. You are either outright lying, or the PCYC has let me down significantly. For an organisation such as this, to waste their money, or should I say MY money, on a scheme such as this is outrageous. I have sent an email to PCYC Queensland demanding an explanation, and if and when the claim is proven to be incorrect, also demanded they take action. I have supplied them with this forums site address, your name and post number where you made this claim. I will keep everyone informed. In the mean time I sure you won’t mind stating the actually branch name that has joined to help facilitate the proceedings.

2845. Comment by The Road Warrior | March 2nd, 2010

      Hi Marguerita

      Quick question….is this you?

      http://marguerita.com.au/

      Of course it is
      The whole site reeks of sort of self improvement garbage that people like you use to prey on the weak. It’s just so disappointing that the advent of the Internet has allowed people like you to reach the audiences that you are now able to (and had the side effect of creating blogs like these to warn people that should do more thinking for themselves!)

      Unique Financial Opportunity
      Discover Nirvana (not the band I assume….)
      Millionaire Traits
      The Real Secret (oh no….there was a fake one??)

      Only Facts – I agree that it’s pretty difficult to believe that there is a possible PCYC association with GroobLi. If Marguerita fails to respond to your question, you can always contact her directly:

      Marguerita Vorobioff
      Life Choice Fitness
      Phone: 0410614189
      Email: marguerita@healingandabundance.com

2846. Comment by Bob | March 2nd, 2010

      Re: Kees,

      “Bob, just out of curiousity: when did you register at Droobli? And did you first register as a customer or right away as a BA (or Partner)?”

      Last spring as a customer, then became BA. I know it took me awhile. Lessons learned.

2847. Comment by Aussie Dave | March 2nd, 2010

      I can report that the Australian economy has been severely affected by the Droobli launch. The traditional stores like Coles, Myer’s, Woolworth’s, David Jones, etc. have no people in them. Stores are closing. People are being thrown out of work. The Droobli way of shopping has totally transformed Australia. The Droobli will be the unit of currency from next week. People can change their Aussie dollars for Droobli credits. Bobby Jensen is being considerecd to be the next Australian Prime Minister. That’s amazing for one man to be the head of two countries – Australia and Droobliland.

      Wait I just saw on the news that Australia is going to be named Drooblia. This is incredible and a real poke in the eye for you droobli doubters.

      Eat your words Beavis!!!!!

2848. Comment by Jack Daddy | March 2nd, 2010

      Love your work, Only Facts.

2849. Comment by kees | March 3rd, 2010

      Thanks Bob, did you get a “customer number” as well, apart from a BA number? If so, would you be willing to tell us your customer number, and how does that differ from your BA number?

      When I asked some questions to a EU Droobli support team member about my registration as a “customer”, I was asked what my “customer number” was. But I couldn’t see anywhere that I *had* a “customer number” so I asked if she meant a BA number and I said I wasn’t a BA. But she kept insisting that she was aware of that and that she didn’t mean a BA number.

      But at the same time she also started referring to BA’s as “customers”, so it all became rather incomprehensible for me, and finally I opted for closing the tiresome discussion & thanking her for her efforts, but I still didn’t understand about the “customer number”

      If you could shed any light on this I would appreciate it

2850. Comment by Only Facts | March 3rd, 2010

      On the right track Kees.

2851. Comment by kees | March 3rd, 2010

      Btw, Latest update, from Droobli Sales Director John Cini on his “antipaper.worldpress.com” blog:

      —————————————————
      * AU/NZ Shopping Portal Launch – Did you see this announcement in the back office yesterday? “We are happy to tell you that we will announce the opening of the Australian shopping Mall in a soon upcoming newsletter. The Mall will be ready within days – we are just finishing last tests.”

      * Global Launch – May seems to be the target now, which is good for those of us still squeaking out some pre-launch market share in Asia.
      —————————————————

      screenshot
      http://i50.tinypic.com/2625×1d.jpg

      Thus, Droobli’s “global launch” has been postponed from “March 1st” to “May seems to be the target now”… mmmm…

2852. Comment by kees | March 3rd, 2010

      earlier I wrote:
      ” … finally I opted for closing the tiresome discussion & thanking her for her efforts, but I still didn’t understand about the “customer number” ”

      and she didn’t tell me where I could *find* my “customer number” either

2853. Comment by bella | March 3rd, 2010

      droobli is for idiots. only an idiot would think it’s a good idea. no one wants to pay 80 cents to look at a price. you know that. plus we already have enough online shopping stores. there is no need for droobli. plus droobli hardly advertises which is business suicide. everyone knows that. droobli is a basically flawed model that will never work. why cant the drooblidiots see what child can?

2854. Comment by Casey | March 3rd, 2010

      G’day all, you may want to check this out and do some posting and ask them a few questions. You will find a lot of Drooblidiots here
      http://droobliaustraliannetworkonline.blogspot.com/2010/03/dean-mannheimer-meetings-downunder.html?showComment=1267627179089_AIe9_BE2qX804EctIs6nKYF9VVFI-7nveLZXpPcYYALwG3nCuRi474ZpQcjmK1AAr5OBKbuSVPwkzKyvrP4ktcFYCdMxfCmmH3oAQ2fdcDoaB8UMxduaTRZtpvSQ0VjkrZtH2nUhk1usqXPAJofeTjauQS6Y-JYEZSPb5Zc49ihRPqw7N2Y-R_dmI-M28deQQNQfyft-AxtTMbIvGWDnpXa2Y4W7mFruBCmwMWk6iJebRze32u7VCO8w3DBgg42BoQAzUz3-aDLm#c3119416484998478789
      GroobLiAustralianNetworkOnline

2855. Comment by beavis | March 3rd, 2010

      Also from antipaper.wordpress.com:

      “We had our first two Japanese enrollments happen yesterday – congrats to Karma McLeskey (under TC Gary Feldman) and to Keiko Marutani (under TC GM Group)! Keiko’s new rep also enrolled one today.”

      I think the CDC (Centers for Disease Control) needs to track these outbreaks. Symptoms include an initial state of euphoria followed by periods of deep depression caused by isolation.

2856. Comment by kees | March 3rd, 2010

      And from MEDG’s own SEC filings:

      MEDG/BSP Rewards, maintainer/owner of 60+ “Reward Malls” identical to the one Droobli promotes, was on the brink of BANKRUPTCY last year… that’s how profitable this whole “Reward Mall business” is…

      Please have a look here:

      http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?r=22981523#r22981523

2857. Comment by Charlie | March 3rd, 2010

      I just got off the toilet where I gave birth to an Australian.

2858. Comment by The Road Warrior | March 3rd, 2010

      I just looked up and all I could see was an asshole

2859. Comment by Charlie's Doctor | March 3rd, 2010

      That was actually the viral growth Droobli promised you. It has been well documented the crap GroobLi feeds you will eventually pass from continent to continent.

2860. Comment by Guy Jinda | March 3rd, 2010

      Droobli will definitely not work in Japan. People in Japan are intensely private and regard badgering others as the ultimate rudeness. Basically people like to be left alone. They don’t like contact with people who are not in their “in group”. If anyone ever attempts to launch Droobli in Japan watch for the most spectacular failure on record.

2861. Comment by A Dreamer | March 3rd, 2010

      Hey Marguerita I’m a dreamer too. I reckon Droobli should sponsor this blog. They should get anti-Droobli blogs started on their websites in the interest of giving future drooblidiots a balanced view of what they may be getting themselves into. That seems good corporate responsiblity.

      I have a dream today.

2862. Comment by beavis | March 3rd, 2010

      “Charlie” (or, most likely, his impersonator) said:

      “I just got off the toilet where I gave birth to an Australian.”

      Congratulations! After numerous posts by Drooblidiots you have successfully displaced them as being “The Stupidest People On The Planet”.

2863. Comment by Guess again | March 3rd, 2010

      I’ve been away and you people still are going on about all your scam stuff. Its you guys doing the dreaming. It’s just an online store and if you dont want the lowest price guarenteed then you dont have to. Please, just let others get the discounts and keep quiet about it. So you dont like Droobli? Big deal. You don’t have to run down a great company with a great business model. (That’s right no one ever proved that wrong!) It’s a good idea isn’t it? You just have to overlook all their understanding it’s just for controversy and you can’t take them seriously. How’s that for a nice guy? Still am? I keep feeding the parrots.

      Look you can buy anything you want in the shop without using credits. So what’s the big deal? If you do decide to be a associate and you get customers you can make click through revenue. Even if nobody buys anything. That’s guaranteed. It works for all. You people dont believe it. Try it! Big things are happening globally. This company is innovative.

      Do you enjoy reverse auctions? Have you tried any? Boy, you people don’t know whta your missing. Get some fun in your lives and do something for other people atr the same time. Nothings changed. It works for me. Don’t listen to all this stuff here. They dont know whats real. I do. I make money from this. And Im one of the good guys. Im not lying. I mean how smart do you have to be to understand global e business. I’ve been over this before here. If you’re not interested go away. Who cares? But dont listen to Beavis and all the names he uses. find your own. Get your info at source. Remember you get reward points which you can use on purchases or other stuff. Stupid ideas? Get it straight man. Using words like toilet and that kind of humor is not on. Pathetic and just goes to show that the company isn’t not well thought out business plan which is making people a lot of money. Check out the Droobli sites maybe it will help. Your questions are answered. All of them Road warrior. Keep driving. Look around and where all the complainers are keeping company. You haven’t even experienced the main thing yet. The Australian launch was successful. But, Hey go ahead register and try it. Its an open door to all. Thats the beauty of Droobli. Maybe you won’t. A lot of big mouths here but no action. You’ve not tried it out have you? Who knows the future? Your lies may even get worse.Hey hows that? Why do i need to come and correct the lies? You say the same old lies. 5 times a day b eavis. Its just one guy people. TYou wait and see. Help me out here. Is there something wrong with doing business on the net? No. Have ya all missed me?

2864. Comment by The Road Warrior | March 3rd, 2010

      Hi Gene –

      “Check out the Droobli sites maybe it will help. Your questions are answered. All of them Road warrior”

      See, Gene, that’s the thing. None of them are answered on the GroobLi sites. Hence the reason they are asked.

      Also, the point of bringing up issues that concern me around claims that GroobLi make (eg, customer numbers) is for you or any senior GroobLi reps to INDEPENDENTLY verify it….ie, by not using a GroobLi website as the basis for your facts.

      “The Australian launch was successful. But, Hey go ahead register and try it.”

      Bzzzzzz!
      The Australian launch DID NOT happen. There are droobli announcements everywhere saying that it’s in the last stages of testing etc etc.

      Go to http://us.droobli.com/ and tell me if you can see the Australian portal. I can’t.

      “Please, just let others get the discounts and keep quiet about it.”

      Sounds like the Google ranking of this blog is having an effect in the GroobLi discussion circles??

2865. Comment by Casey | March 3rd, 2010

      I think Guess again/Gene is really Bobby Jensen.

2866. Comment by beavis | March 3rd, 2010

      Gene said:

      “But dont listen to Beavis and all the names he uses.”

      Gene, I’m the guy reading your power meter, too.

2867. Comment by Only Facts | March 3rd, 2010

      Road Warrior.
      Don’t waste your time. You cannot explain blue to a blind man.

2868. Comment by Jack Daddy | March 4th, 2010

      Guess Again,

      I’m in Australia and I can tell you that Droobli hasn’t launched here.

      Hardly a successful launch…

2869. Comment by Guess again | March 4th, 2010

      You people don’t get it. You choose to live in a negative sense most of the time. You will never find happiness. All you can do is tear apart something. I’m too busy building a great time of people who want to get somewhere. Why don’t all of you just the lies and attacks on Droobli so I can help more people to build their own businessess. droobli gives people a a chance at success. All you can do is be negative. You just don’t know how good Droobli is. It’s win/win for everyone. What’s wrong with that? I’ve asked you that and you won’t answer. You can’t. It’s just lies. I know its launched in Australia becasue I have Australian customers already clicking and giving me flow through cash. It simple and it works. But you won’t believe it Casey, Beavis Road Warroir. All Beavis I think. Answer the question and stop lying.

2870. Comment by Casey | March 4th, 2010

      Guess again…You are the lying SCAMMER here, and you refuse to answer the questions and proof that is being presented to you.
      And no dickhead, these posts are not all by Beavis. There are a lot more people than 1 here looking for answers. You are the one that doesn’t get it. So answer the questions and you stop lying.

2871. Comment by kees | March 4th, 2010

      Droobli-Global, where art thou?
      http://i49.tinypic.com/ic0fn5.jpg

2872. Comment by beavis | March 4th, 2010

      Guess again (aka “gene”) squealed:

      “It’s win/win for everyone. What’s wrong with that? I’ve asked you that and you won’t answer. You can’t. It’s just lies.”

      What’s wrong with that? For starters, its not true. It’s been spelled out over and over to you that you can’t just pretend the losing bidders don’t exist. You can’t ignore the fact that the vast majority of Droobli BA’s dont’ even earn back their initial buy-in and they especially don’t recover their lost time. There; now your question is answered so you can drop this “win/win” spiel. You should change it to “some people win; not many, but some and the rest lose”. Sound catchy? For recruiting BA’s you could try “most likely you’ll lose most if not all of your original investment, but you get to hang around some really cool people like me”. Oh, wait; that would be lying; you’re not cool

2873. Comment by Guess again | March 4th, 2010

      You all think you have clever ideas but you know nothing about business. Business is excitement and numbers created and all that. Sure there’s spin but its all excitement and that flows through the numbers. Then people meet more people. and so it goes spreading out. That’s viral growth and theres no stopping it. Thats the besauty of the droobli model. It keeps going and because its global it keeps going around the world and back again. those are facts that cant be disputed. what part of that don’t you understand? You people couldn’t lie straight in bed.

2874. Comment by Only Facts | March 4th, 2010

      You are absolutely correct about viral growth. Each time Droobli stuffs up more and more people become aware. The disaster that is called Droobli has gone global, but not in the way you were hoping. Directors of the company are jumping ship, Medianet share prices are falling, old scammers such as Rik McCoy are now running in the opposite direction, BA’s in Australia are in damage control due to the missed launch, websites are being voluntarily suspended because they can’t handle the backlash, negative news articles are being published, other anti-Droobli sites are topping Google, Pro-Droobli forums have had no action for months, CG Holdings SEC report proves over inflated numbers, promotion deadlines are being extended, Droobli has been caught falsifying testimonials even die hards such as Jamison have disappeared, even on his own forum. The viral campaign has gone around the world a few times now and slapped you across the back of the head. I know you will not comprehend any of this because it’s a “Lie”. Fortunately for those of us who have dipped our toes in the pool of reality, all these points have been verified. For you to say the launch did go ahead in Australia is pure lunacy. Even Droobli itself has admitted it didn’t, and still hasn’t. While I am sure it eventually will, how many times can one company stuff things so badly before even the ignorant catches on?

2875. Comment by beavis | March 4th, 2010

      Gene said:

      “Business is excitement and numbers created and all that. Sure there’s spin but its all excitement and that flows through the numbers. Then people meet more people. and so it goes spreading out. That’s viral growth and theres no stopping it. Thats the besauty of the droobli model. It keeps going and because its global it keeps going around the world and back again. those are facts that cant be disputed.”

      I especially like the first sentence. You sound very edjumicated.

2876. Comment by beavis | March 4th, 2010

      “Business is excitement and numbers created and all that.”

      I still can’t get over that

2877. Comment by The Road Warrior | March 4th, 2010

      You’re right – that is brilliant!

      Let me have a go at quoting it….

      “Business is excitement and numbers created and all that”

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

      Gene, put that on a webinar quickly

2878. Comment by beavis | March 4th, 2010

      Scott Adams of Dilbert fame would have had to work hard to come up with something this dumb for his pointy haired boss character to say. I mean, really, this is either the stupidest comment one could make or it is brilliant parody. I think Gene is one of us making Droobli look bad. In fact, I would think he was me except I couldn’t write something this good. Gene, did you write “This is Spinal Tap”? If you did I really liked it!

2879. Comment by The Road Warrior | March 4th, 2010

      I can’t get a Terminator quote out of my head. Only it’s been changed slightly to suit Gene who was obviously sent from the future…

      “The online stores ran night and day. We were that close to going out forever. But there was one man who taught us to recruit, to build a storm of webinars, to smash those anti-droobli bloggers into junk. He turned it around. He brought us back from the brink. His name is McNeally. Gene McNeally.”

2880. Comment by Guess again | March 4th, 2010

      You people at it again twisting my words. Youve done that from the beginning. I cam here to offer help and a few people or is one Beav? just come here and say lies about everything. You dont know Droobli. Its like a big family and our uplines are always willing to give support and training. Its a great company is on the path to success. Dont be surprised by big success in 2010. This is the year of the tipping point. This viral growth is like wildfire. Droobli people can be found everywhere. There’s a guy in tahiti. can you imagine that? Hes helping his island people and thats all good for everyone. These are real people.

      I said you don’t understand business and that’s the truth of it. You laugh at the excitement but that drives the bottom line. You guys never take a risk. But business is about the numbers, the excitement. People really. My business is people. I put people in charge of their financial future but you want the boss to do that. Droobli is making a difference in people’s lives. Mock it all you want. The sinple formula works. People click and you make money. Why won’t you see that? Let others take care of themselves. The flow trough cash streams are going viral now. You gota try it. this is big and you people cant even see it. You wont see it. You think business is an old stone building. that model is over. now we have e business. Why the fear? Let me show you how to make money. Its simple. Just trust me and I can guarantee money. Real money. Thats not the most important thing to me but thats all you understand. Big deal. So what. I’ll talk your language if you want. Now Beav you can’t argue with any of that.

2881. Comment by Only Facts | March 4th, 2010

      I don’t know if Beav could argue with you, but I sure as hell couldn’t understand a word of what you said. For a while there I thought a cat must have ran over the key board. Honestly do yourself a favour. Go to a doctor, I seriously don’t think your not well.

2882. Comment by Is it really him | March 4th, 2010

      He guys. I know you love me so much. I haven’t posted for a month or so now. I might have posted in early February. Been busy.

      Thanks for all the name recognition. Still the same old cesspool I see.

      Gene McNeally and droobli together go ahead google it, check out my site. Better yet droobli it when you check prices. I sell some good stuff. Send more people my way.

2883. Comment by Casey | March 5th, 2010

      Guess again/Gene, Something for you to have a look at
      http://kimwillis.net/2010/03/droobli-australia-about-to-launch-but-nagging-doubts-remain/
      And like Only Facts, I sure as hell couldn’t understand a word of what you said either. A five year old could put a better sentence together.
      And some more proof supplied by Keesje on Whirlpool
      http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1278895&p=65
      If you care to take a look, but I’m not sure whether you would be able to understand it?? Most Drooblidiots in denial will miss the point, but please try to educate yourself/Is it really him

2884. Comment by Casey | March 5th, 2010

      Some more education for you Guess again.
      http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_M/threadview?m=te&bn=49868&tid=60&mid=60&tof=6&frt=2#60
      Don’t say that this forum has not provided you and others the proof that GROOBLI IS A SCAM.

2885. Comment by Is it really him | March 5th, 2010

      Gene says, Yeah yeah yeah beav/eagle put your cesspool spin on it. Here come the rats.

      I put out the cheese and sure enough they come. They can’t understand a word they write.

2886. Comment by Casey | March 5th, 2010

      For all those GroobLi BAs who believe that GroobLi is not gambling, here is what someone who was, until recently, a member of GroobLi’s Board of Directors, had to say on that subject … This is only a small extract.

      The merged entities [Media Net and GroobLi] have two (2) websites of which one (1) could be alleged to be deemed a lottery. I have suggested that we get a bankable legal opinion (he obviously does not have much confidence in the other “legal opinion” being trotted out by GroobLi) whereby members of The Board of Directors are more fully protected together with our shareholders and business associates. The major concern I have is that if a state’s attorney general takes a legal position that our website is not a game of skill, then the financial, accounting and legal situations could have a material effect on our financials and going concern business plan of operations. This potential risk factor should be fully disclosed to our shareholders, financial and equity entities that fully describes and discloses the consequences of this event occurring.

      http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1097792/000116169710000186/form8-k.htm

      http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1097792/000116169710000186/ex172.htm#ex172

      Gene/Guess again, and other Drooblidiots,here are some untwisted words for you to read, no lies, just facts.

2887. Comment by Casey | March 5th, 2010

      From Keesje, posted on Whirlpool.
      Wow, ultra-fast cooperation between Twitter & Google:

      http://www.google.nl/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&q=%22Trouble+at+the+Top%22+droobli&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=

      posted less than 2 hours ago on twitter and now showing up in google already:

      http://twitter.com/GroobLiUnofficial

      * MEDG board-director Steve Adelstein resigned … not happy with Droobli merger… http://tinyurl.com/y8qqdd6 – Trouble at the Top

      &

      * Trouble at the Top? http://tinyurl.com/y8qqdd6 – Seems not everybody over at MEDG was happy with Droobli . …

      ———-

      edited to add:

      and hilariously enough it’s showing up in the
      “Official GroobLi Fun Shopping Friendfeed Room”
      http://friendfeed.com/droobli-fun-shopping

      … hahaha
      Thanks Keesje

2888. Comment by beavis | March 5th, 2010

      Good God! One of the directors has resigned because of possible illegal activity by Droobli (gambling), failure to disclose dilution of equity to stockholders, improper/incomplete disclosures to the SEC (Securities and Exchange Commission), questionable accounting practices, failure to disclose risks to stockholders from the aforementioned gambling issue and not getting paid his salary or stock options. The SEC will take notice of this guy’s resignation letter. I was convinced that Droobli would stay around as long as the trickling in of BA recruits continued due to the fact Droobli spends so little money on actually operating. If anybody can drive a stake through the heart of Droobli it’s the SEC. Back in the 80’s they’d take the crooked securities brokers out in leg irons (you got to give the Feds style points for the leg irons). I’m sure they still work that way today. Talk about dissension from the top

2889. Comment by beavis | March 5th, 2010

      I composed a press release for Droobli to use when the Feds take notice and start inquiring about the discrepancies:

      “Just when all eyes were on the exciting launch of Droobli in Australia, the largest purchaser of goods in the United States has expressed an interest in the Droobli Business Model. Yes, the US Government could be become the biggest thing that has happened to Droobli! This could be a real game changer! Not only does the US Governement buy lots of merchandise, but they sell a lot of surplus. In fact, as we speak, they just brought in some merchandise (orange jumpsuits and leg irons) to be auctioned.”

2890. Comment by Eugene | March 5th, 2010

      Beavis:

      Loved your last comment.

      Do you work in marketing, by any chance?

      (If you don’t, you should…!)

2891. Comment by beavis | March 5th, 2010

      Eugene,

      No, I don’t work in marketing. I can write this crap only because I know nobody would believe me. Oh, wait, Gene is out telling his downline that “orange jumpsuits are the new “in” thing”. Gene, Gene, it was a joke. . .

2892. Comment by Jack Daddy | March 5th, 2010

      Recieved my latest newsletter from Droobli and apparently the Australian Rewards Mall will be launching on the 8th of March.

      So by Monday Droobli should ‘explode’ here in Australia.

      Why do I picture a cartoon character firing a fake gun only to have a pole shoot out the barrel and unravel a small flag with the words ‘BANG’ written on it every time I here that Droobli is going to explode?!?!?

2893. Comment by beavis | March 6th, 2010

      OK, Eugene’s comment about my marketing prowess has gone to my head. I’ve got a few new slogans for Droobli:

      “Droobli Mall, the Montgomery Wards of the Internet”

      Catchy, huh?

      Or, how about:

      “Droobli; the MLM everyone expected you to join”

      And finally:

      Droobli; it’s Monavie, Amway and ACN all rolled up into one furry little ball”

2894. Comment by kees | March 6th, 2010

      Referring to my comment 2849, from March 3rd, 2010, where I asked Bob about the alleged “customer number” everyone gets at Droobli (according to a Droobli Support Team rep) when one registers for the very first time:

      I have now personally found out the following facts (by recently registering again, under different names than previously, on both the EU and US portal):

      (personal ‘details’ ommited)

      # at Droobli-eu my personal “customer number” is 413,xxx (that’s four hundred and thirteen thousand “and something”)

      # at Droobli-us my personal “customer number” is 154,xxx (that’s hundred and fifty four thousand “and something”)

      # at Droobli-eu, if I want to buy credits, I can choose to transfer the money to a Cyprus bank account, or to use a credit card.
      My eu-customer number is shown to me.

      # at Droobli-us, if I want to buy credits, I can only choose credit card, no Cyprus bank account is shown.
      My us-customer number is not shown to me.

      # at both Droobli-eu and Droobli-us I can see my customer number when I start the “tell a friend” feature.

      # Droobli-eu customer numbers have “teu” in front of them, Droobli-us customer numbers have “tus” in front of them.

      # here are 4 screenshots showing what I mentioned above (with my personal details blanked out):

      EU:
      buy credits: http://i49.tinypic.com/35jj8jt.jpg
      tell a friend: http://i48.tinypic.com/x4s0ea.jpg

      US:
      buy credits: http://i48.tinypic.com/2s7gfig.jpg
      tell a friend: http://i50.tinypic.com/2n00zl3.jpg

      ———————————

      In a future post I will provide evidence that rather than a “customer number”, as the Droobli-eu support team employee called it, this number is actually a Droobli “registered member” number, whereby “member” includes Droobli “Business Assocates”, Droobli “Partners” and Droobli “customers”.

      I will also provide evidence (from “date-tagged” info) that these numbers are getting higher with more-recent dates, in a regular, progressive way (i.e. they are not random numbers assigned).

      ———————————

      We know that Droobli-us started in Oct. 2008, and I think/hope we can assume the “tus” member numbers started at zero back then (unless of course Droobli started the number higher than zero to avoid newly registered people thinking “wow, what a low number I’ve got… Seems Droobli is not very popular…”) .

      We could then calculate an average number for a “new-members-per-month” figure.
      (which I don’t do here, but you can do it yourself )

      ———————————

      For the Droobli-eu site however it is unclear what we could take as the ’start date’ there.

      Recruitment of ‘Ambassadors’/ BA’s started in June 2003, Droobli.com went online in May 2004, had a major relaunch in Oct. 2006, started its first ’smartwin’ auctions (‘credits’ were introduced then as well) in June 2007 , and revamped the whole eu-portal in July 2008 to basically its current ‘model’…

      Seeing how poorly the Droobli-eu site has been performing over the years however, I would think it is very likely that this 413,xxx number is representative for ALL people that ever registered at the european version of Droobli.com (whether as Amassador, BA or customer) from June 2003 onwards.

      ———————————

      All in all, referring to the 413,xxx and 154,xxx numbers I mentioned earlier, and assuming these numbers indeed started at zero in the past, this would mean that (when I recently made those screenshots) Droobli-eu has 413,xxx members and Droobli-us has 154,xxx members.

      For Droobli worldwide this would make a grand total of 567,xxx (or a little over 0.567 million*) REGISTERED MEMBERS (incl. BA’s, Partners, and actual “real” customers).

      *again: if these member numbers started at zero in the past.

      (to be continued somewhere in the near future)

2895. Comment by Robbie | March 6th, 2010

      “Guess again (aka “gene”) squealed:”

      ROFL, that’s a great one. Please do that every time with a different verb.
      I haven’t posted in a long time, but I visit the site from time to time to keep up and for the occasional laugh. But beav, don’t be too hard on Gene. You know, he believes virtually everything Droobli says, and I think that is what makes him a more of a selective human than someone who doesn’t believe anything.

2896. Comment by beavis | March 6th, 2010

      OK, after that last post by kees, I’m going to do it:

      I declare “shenanigans” against Droobli. Everybody grab a broom.

2897. Comment by Robbie | March 6th, 2010

      http://ugottadothis.com/2010/02/droobli-business-associate-stats-after-one-year/

      “(Customer numbers were assigned in a manner that made me believe that this number MIGHT be a good indication of the number of US customers.)”

2898. Comment by Bob | March 6th, 2010

      Kees Re: post # 2893

      Personally I had about a dozen customer accounts to test the system. I think most Ba’s had at least several.

2899. Comment by kees | March 6th, 2010

      Bob said:
      “Personally I had about a dozen customer accounts to test the system. I think most Ba’s had at least several.”

      —————-

      Wow Bob, thanks for that info.

      So, once you became a BA you got several (or even about a dozen) of these “customer accounts”? Just for you alone, to test “the system”? Wow again.

      And you said earlier you registered in the Spring of 2009… According to some other information I came accross, your “customer number(s)” from that time would then be somewhere in the 30thousand range (between 30,000 and 40,000) …? Can you confirm that?

      Thanks again Bob.

2900. Comment by kees | March 7th, 2010

      Actually, I now “see” Droobli “customer numbers” were in the 48thousand range by mid June 2009, so make that between 30,000 and 50,000 for Spring 2009.

2901. Comment by beavis | March 7th, 2010

      Droobli, “the incredible shrinking company”

2902. Comment by Bob | March 7th, 2010

      Kees,
      I have no idea how many customers all of my Ba’s had, I doubt it was even close to that many.

      I had many personal customer accounts because I opened up many emails to test different things in the system. Most Ba’s would not have done anything near that.

      Let me revise post 2898, I would not be surprised if many Ba’s had several.

2903. Comment by Guess again | March 7th, 2010

      You people will never know the great chance you have with Droobli. why? Because you twist the facts. You think your clever but its all lies. Ive bid won great deals, Christmas presents everything. Delivered stuff to my door and this thing is just growing. But you dont want to know do you? Boy are you dumb. You can make money but all you do is knock it. Droobli will be huge by next year. Ive seen the graphs and Im not kidding. The model is brilliant. Youve never been able to disprove that. People are making money. $50 000 a months is not unusual. Thats what Im aimming for. So go and cry about it. we don’t need your sarcasm beav. Stick to real facts. Can you understand me now/ Its taken a long time and Ive been patient.

2904. Comment by Bob | March 7th, 2010

      To elaborate more,
      I am sure many Ba’s had at least one because they all want to know what the customer experience is from the customers perspective. Those 150,000 or so registered customers in the US are pretty much meaningless.

      I take that back, they are not meaningless. They prove what GroobLi said about Europe is embarrassing. This used is on http://www.GroobLinetwork.com word for word:

      “GroobLi.com’s select test market in Europe saw 2.3 million customers come in just eight months.”

      Now they have added another statement:
      “You can seize a global advantage with this type of auction and potentially earn enormous profits as millions of people across the world are bidding on products and services on your auction site.”

      This statement alone may entertain the SEC (since this is why Ba’s join in the first place).

2905. Comment by beavis | March 7th, 2010

      SEC is going to focus on their filings and their stockholder relationship. Lying to the BA’s is not the SEC’s jurisdiction. It appears, from all of the improprieties, that Droobli management doesn’t like playing by the rules. We’ll see who goes after them first but my money is on the SEC and/or the stockholders.

2906. Comment by Jack Daddy | March 7th, 2010

      8th of march today here in Australia and still nothing.

      Still only 40 items up for auction on the US portal.

      Fail.

2907. Comment by beavis | March 7th, 2010

      Guess again (aka “Gene”) said:

      “Droobli will be huge by next year.”

      I guess your saying is that something will occur that will bring this success about. What could possibly do that; let me think. . . hmmm. . . perhaps. . . umm, no. . . wait! I know! The one event that has never failed to keep Droobli Business Associates holding (and stroking) each other in a big circle; a launch! Yes, a launch will fix everything! I just can’t wait for the next big launch! When is it, Gene? Tell us about the new, better than before, massive, game changing launch! Enquiring minds want to know!

2908. Comment by The Road Warrior | March 7th, 2010

      Gene said –

      “Droobli will be huge by next year.”

      You said that last year, Gene.

      For some reason you completely ignore facts when they are presented (eg, the past few posts from kees are things you can actually check for yourself. Why don’t you?)

      Back to your comment…at the very least, this blog has the great advantage of tracking Droobli’s movement from Sept 2008 till now. Can’t you see that you have been saying the same things for a year and a half? And that Droobli is no better than it was back then?

      “I’ve seen the graphs and I’m not kidding”

      This is the bit where I usually end up feeling a little sorry for you – the blind acceptance of what Droobli’s internal marketing machine is telling you.

      Do you ever look at one of these graphs and see a milestone recorded for, say, March 1st 2010 stating “Australian Portal Launch” and go away and ask the question, “DID THAT HAPPEN?”

      March 8th here, Gene. No launch. If I were a GroobLi BA with a downline that I promised an Aussie auction portal….I’d be pretty pissed by now.

2909. Comment by Phil Leahy | March 7th, 2010

      I just had a presentation of Droobli by a close friend that has tipped in $3000 into the system. I feel sick for her because I know this is going to end in tears.
      Here are just some of the reasons that come to mind:
      • Traffic numbers to the site are very low and declining.
      • Product offerings are extremely low.
      • User experience is confusing.
      • No ability to rate the buying experience on the site.
      • Returns policy is hidden.
      • Droobli online reputation management is glaring.
      • The offering is a sick combination of MLM & gambling – it is not ecommerce.

      People there are no free lunches! Let me put this in simple terms:
      If something costs $100 and sells for $50 then somebody loses – end of story. I do understand about the points and credits system however think about this – When people lose they leave. This is MLM at its worst.
      Run for the hills!
      As for the people at the tip of the pyramid you should be locked up!
      This type of online scam muddies the water for legitimate online business. Bring on the SEC!

2910. Comment by kees | March 7th, 2010

      It’s 02:49 A.M. March 8 now in Boca Raton, Florida, where the MEDG/Droobli HQ is located… just saying’…

2911. Comment by Guess again | March 8th, 2010

      Why do I bother trying to explain it to you? Because I have not lost vision in this project. Droobli will continue to amaze despite the three or four people on this site. If three or four people compared to five million Droobli customers worldwide is nothing. Keep that in front of you. This site is a drop of water. Nothing can come of it. Droobli is already a top company and growing. Customers are millions. People are making money. Why not you. Quality goods delivered to your door. Ill keep talking because I might be helping someone. You people need to open your eyes stop your conspiracies. Bobby Jensen can make it happen to so many and you. This site is nothing but I come to help and explain e commerce which some of you are to backward to know about. Why not do the 10 free ceredits and try Droobli for yourselves. What can you lose? You could become a millionaire. Its easy.

2912. Comment by kees | March 8th, 2010

      A simple request to you, Gene:

      Please show us where you get the “five million Droobli customers worldwide” figure?

      Thanks.

2913. Comment by kees | March 8th, 2010

      It is now March 9 in eastern Australia (Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane) …. no AU/NZ Droobli shopping portal yet… ?

      Less than 2 hours to go and it’ll be March 9 also in western Australia… will the AU/NZ Droobli shopping portal be there within the next 2 hours?

2914. Comment by Is it really him | March 8th, 2010

      What Gene are you talking to? It’s certainly not me. I haven’t been spending a whole lot of time with this
      cesspool. So don’t attribute all this other garbage to me. I am not guess again. I already gave you plenty of good content.

2915. Comment by kees | March 8th, 2010

      Fine, make that:

      A simple request to you, “Guess again” (comment 2911):

      Please show us where you get the “five million Droobli customers worldwide” figure?

      Thanks.

      ————
      Btw, the Droobli-au mall did come online at exactly 5 minutes before midnight western Australia time:

      http :// us.droobli.com/index.php?cid=lp.partner-bsp&bspcny=AU
      and/or
      http :// bsprewards.com/australia/index.cfm

      … only a mall… no au.droobli.com auction portal visible yet…

2916. Comment by kees | March 8th, 2010

      “exactly 5 minutes before midnight western Australia time” meaning: in the last 5 minutes of “Australian March 8″

2917. Comment by Phil Leahy | March 8th, 2010

      This is no Mall! It is a landing page for an Affiliate program. All Droobli has done is do a deal with clix galore. com. au for links which anyone can do.
      Wake up people!

2918. Comment by The Road Warrior | March 8th, 2010

      Guess again said –

      “This site is a drop of water”

      Go to Google and search “Droobli” and see where this site ranks in the results

2919. Comment by The Road Warrior | March 8th, 2010

      Now, let’s get this straight. The “mall” opened in Australia BEFORE the auction portal.

      Was that the plan?

      I thought that the business model was to drive up customer numbers using the “hook” of the auctions with an ultimate goal of opening a shopping mall.

      Can any of you BAs out there tell me the current Australian customer numbers? Marguerita?

      I hope you are not all scratching your heads wondering if this was the launch you expected

2920. Comment by beavis | March 8th, 2010

      Only a handful of die hard twits are going to keep going through these launches that turn into non-events. Hasn’t anyone noticed that there has been no announcements for anyone qualifying for Cayman Brac? How long does it take with “five million customers” to qualify? Why hasn’t the Bentley been given away? The answer is Droobli hasn’t got enough business for any of you fools to qualify. It’s a lie. Get it? You can’t have all of these business associates and customers without somebody qualifying as an Executive Vice-President. Explain that one, Gene.

2921. Comment by beavis | March 8th, 2010

      Come on, Gene; five million customers and no Executive Vice-Presidents. Explain why.

2922. Comment by who cares anymore | March 8th, 2010

      Keep trying beav keep trying.

2923. Comment by The Road Warrior | March 8th, 2010

      Can’t help it….I need to write what I think Gene will write:

      I’ve explained why, i dont need do it again. Come to my site. We’re just rolling out. It’s a great plan, all bunsiness, ecommerce and all that. You can get click through revenue, don’t ya know. Did I lie, beav. you can make money. I did. My socks really smell. Parrot.

2924. Comment by J. Harold | March 8th, 2010

      Is that Gene’s voice on his link? Kinda creepy … He seems to have a rabbit warren of websites and links. Is that for “tax reasons”? Careful the IRS doesn’t get wind of Gene McNeally.

      So he comes on here uses all these different names like “Guess Who”, “Guess Again”, “Who Cares Anymore”, “Is it really him”, etc. If one name gets criticism he claims it wasn’t him. I worry about Gene, psychologically. I worry for his family. What protection do they have? He sounds like a lunatic about 75% of the time. And I don’t know why.

      He doesn’t care about people. He seems to only care about money and claims this kind of savage greed is “what America is all about”. I reject that. I don’t want to be rich. I have enough and I even get to help some people too. Guys like Gene McNeally, though, make money their God. It’s no substitute for the real thing. Get to a church Gene. And not a wacky one like you go to. A bunch of weirdos.

      You might begin to understand that greed like yours got us into the global financial mess. Also, stop trying to sell miracle cancer cures to dying people. That’s wrong on so many levels. You’ll feel better for it.

2925. Comment by beavis | March 8th, 2010

      I’m starting a campaign. I think Gene should become the new Official Earl of Droobli! Think of it; he can wear a crown (or tiara, if he prefers) and preside over all of the future Droobli launches. And when Bobby Jensen buys England, all of England will have to swear allegiance to the Droobli Monarchy or be relegated to only being able to purchase silver level. Screw this corporate title crap; all senior Drooblidiots should be considered royalty. I also support Jason Switzer to be the Lord of Hull (http://www.worst-city.com/Hull-The-Worst-Place-to-live-in-England-City-Town-UK.htm).

2926. Comment by Realist | March 9th, 2010

      You guys win…. Droobli is gay.

      Another BA bites the dust.

2927. Comment by Kevin J. Manders | March 9th, 2010

      Droobli stinks. Bobby Jensen should be in jail for the damage he has caused to churches, families and other relationships. Someone was right when they said “Droobli is social poison”. No one wants a drooblidiot in his or her life. They are terrible. Always putting on the fake concern about the finances of anyone they meet.

      “I just want to help you”. They are greedy amoral people who would sell their mothers to a soap factory if they could get away with it. I’m not the only one who hates drooblidiots with a passion. There are thousands of us who hate them. Don’t walk in front of my car. Especially Gene.

2928. Comment by Jeffner | March 9th, 2010

      Realist,

      How do your downlines feel about your change of heart?

2929. Comment by The Road Warrior | March 9th, 2010

      My god, did anyone listen to Gene’s ramblings on his site?

      http://www.liveliberty.ws/thespinfactor

      He’s utterly convinced that eaglescout, Only Facts, beavis and myself are the same person.

      One thing Gene….spellcheck your silly webpage will you! It’s ridiculous and sounds like a desperate attempt to negate some of the effect of this blog (which of course it is)

      And naturally, you again fail to address a single fact or question raised. Cmon Gene, even the diehard Droobli fans can see that.

2930. Comment by Casey | March 9th, 2010

      Hey Road Warrior, Had a quick look at your link, then realised it had some crack pot speaking, WOW. Late here so will listen again tomorrow. sounds like a real fruit loop con artist. I think all Drooblidiots should have a listen to that Bull Sh.t. Cheers mate.

2931. Comment by won't tell | March 9th, 2010

      What is it you don’t like the coined word adgenda?

      That’s all this cesspool blog is for isn’t it? You’ve got no real beef with the company

      now do you? You just want your adsense ads clicked. Isn’t that how it works?

      We’ve got a nice home business but it’s more exciting than any other online store out there.

      Of course the spin dopes don’t know a thing.

2932. Comment by Bad Turkey | March 9th, 2010

      Spoke to one of my Droobli friends yesterday. Some concerns arising out of the postponed Australian launch. This friend was waiting for the Australian launch and portal before canvassing others to join. He also noted that many of the completed auctions on the US portal are won by the same family (tell me something I dont know). I suggested that it might be a Droobli BA trying to boost the numbers. Surely others are getting a bit sus about this company and its workings and after nearly 6 months of recruiting in Australia, can only manage less than 40 items for sale in their auction portal.
      Has anyone heard the latest on the Aussie launch??

2933. Comment by kees | March 9th, 2010

      Here’s the latest on the Aussie launch: “in a couple of months”

      (http://antipaper.wordpress.com/ – Droobli Sales Director John Cini)

      * GroobLi Corp.: GroobLi Launches in Australia
      2010 March 9
      by antipaper

      * If you’re wondering how to access the AU/NZ shopping portal, it’s not a secret: this is the direct link, but you can also go to http://www.GroobLi.com, click on the “Shopping” Tab at the top, then click the AU flag at the top-right (to the right of the USA and Canada flags). I’m sure there will soon be an AU flag on the front of the GroobLi.com site. The number of merchants in the AU store is impressive – see it for yourself by clicking the AU flag and looking at the specific “Shopping Categories” on the left.

      * Another question I’ve received: when will AU/NZ have its own auction site? (Right now AU/NZ can use the North American site, which isn’t the best way.) The answer is in a couple more months, when the GroobLi global auction launches.

      ————————–

2934. Comment by kees | March 9th, 2010

      But it’s already a couple of months since Sept 2009 (six to be precise) when it was planned to launch in the first place …. (that is, if we forget about the original global launch to take place in 2003* (and then 2004) (and then 2006) (etc.)

      …. Droobli, never failing to fail…

      *see this Youtube vid,
      “Droobli “biz opp” slides 2003/2004″
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHJgO8H9Q0Y

      or this screenshot from the original TradingValues (forerunner of Drooblinetwork) presentation in mid 2003 (in Danish):
      http://i41.tinypic.com/dpie0g.jpg

      in english it says:

      * TradingValues.com
      Funded/established June 2003
      Head office in USA
      Marketing & Support Centre in Spain
      Prelaunch from August 2003
      Launch Tradeportal 1 November 2003

2935. Comment by kees | March 9th, 2010

      I like this one also, dating from somewhere in 2005, just after Droobli launched in China:

      (screenshot of 3 slides from a TradingValues/Droobli presentation):

      http://i43.tinypic.com/9g8sv4.jpg

      * “Asian Operation & Development office in Shanghai, China”
      “Support & Marketing offices in Spain, Taiwan”

2936. Comment by Kent Wildman | March 9th, 2010

      Droobliis finished. When are the drooblidiots going to wake up to the fact? Poor souls. They need to move on to the next scam.

2937. Comment by The Road Warrior | March 9th, 2010

      So Gene (wont tell, guess again etc)

      Your little webpage…

      http://www.liveliberty.ws/thespinfactor

      1. I really like how you change your name over and over in this blog, and you refer to yourself in the 3rd person on your link, yet all the links you provide point to the same person. Eg, “A real online business” link on your page is

      http://www.drooblinetwork.com/1455972

      Which is the same as the “wont tell” link in post 2931.

      2. In your page, you actually use the example

      http://us.droobli.com/American-Express-200-Gift-Card__5e_6130?gmt=360

      to sell the idea to people.

      A $200 American Express Gift Card that “sold” for $0

      After all this time, you still can’t see what a deceptive pile of rubbish that is? No-one in their right mind would allow the price to go down that far and not have purchased the card when it was at, say, $10.

      So it’s clear for you…

      THAT IS AN EXAMPLE OF A GROOBLI BUSINESS ASSOCIATE DUMPING THEIR CREDITS IN ORDER TO REDEEM SOMETHING BACK FROM THEIR FAILED INVESTMENT

      There was no serious bidding going on.

      Ask yourself this Gene….why doesn’t Droobli allow you to see the bidding history? Might it be because seeing the same ID bidding on the one item down to zero would be somewhat bad for business?

2938. Comment by The Road Warrior | March 9th, 2010

      Casey, I agree

      I realise that Gene is trying to respond in his own way to the barrage of factual evidence that has been presented here (and elsewhere) over the past year or so.

      The thing is, he doesn’t respond with facts of his own. Nor does he address any of the concerns raised. His attempt to discredit this blog only serves to increase the strength of this blog.

      I think his link should be widely published and his voice heard by as many as possible.

      Here’s something that makes me smile. Picture this:

      You are Bobby Jensen (or someone equivalent). You have started up a scheme like Droobli and are trying to make yourself as rich as possible. It then comes to your attention that there is an anti-Droobli blog on the Internet that is receiving an enourmous number of hits (moreso than your scheme’s entire customer base). You Google your company name and see this site is ranked in the top 4 hits. You go to the site. And you notice that Gene is the spokesman for your company

      That said, now go here and have a listen…

      http://www.liveliberty.ws/thespinfactor

2939. Comment by Genius | March 9th, 2010

      You are full of yourself RW/beav/casey. Whom ever you are. LOL Your claims are false.

      I’ve responded many a time. You just don’t listen. Then you make false statements

      that you attribute to me. Very ethical here aren’t you? I won’t waste time with you.

      Yes you better listen. Listen as many times as you like. I’ve got more you could listen to if you like.

      Why are you trying to kill an honest business? Why don’t you have the guts to give your own name RW?

2940. Comment by Jeffner | March 9th, 2010

      Road Warrior’s real name is Max, Mad Max.

      Keep up the good work RW.

2941. Comment by The Road Warrior | March 9th, 2010

      Gene – how would knowing my real name make any difference whatsoever to the scam that Droobli is?

      “I’ve responded many a time”

      Could you please show me where and to what?

      “Your claims are false”

      Which ones?
      I’m mainly asking questions, Gene. Questions like:

      -Where is the EU shopping mall?
      -Can you prove that GroobLi has 5 million customers
      -Is a zero dollar sale realistic in your mind?

      Those aren’t claims

      “Why are you trying to kill an honest business?”

      Because GroobLi is anything but honest. Now THAT is a claim backed by fact. Look at the history (2003 till now), look at the endless auctions won by the same people, look at the impossible auction results, look at the amazing research that kees has done regrading the customer numbers, look at the launches that fail to deliver time and time again, listen to the BA’s who have started out on this blog supporting GroobLi only to come back later saying it was garbage.

2942. Comment by can't give my name u use it against me | March 9th, 2010

      One simple reason to know your name could be, if your real name is different than beav or eagle or whose who maybe someone could put some stock into what you say. Then we might know you’re not the same dope.
      Why are we worried about Europe? Do you want to shop there? We have one here. Now deny that. That’s a fact Jack or is it Road Warrior. What a ridiculous name. You hide your identity behind fallacy just the same way you present your so called facts on this blog. Lying is a habit for you isn’t it? Come on show yourself. Give us your name. You can’t and you won’t will you? Brave soul your are. Yeah I get emails with ridiculous messages with false email addresses so I can respond. Is that you too Road Warrior? If not you it’s the same mentality. http://www.liveliberty.ws/thespinfactor

      I’ve got a message for you there Road Warrior.

2943. Comment by Only Facts | March 9th, 2010

      Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

      In Gene speek.

      If youse aint thinkin what happened brfore, youse be do it again and all stuff like that.

2944. Comment by beavis | March 9th, 2010

      I went to http://www.liveliberty.ws/thespinfactor, after reading it, I think eaglescout is scum for wanting to ruin the great Droobli business model. But, wait, I also read I’m eaglescout!? And “only facts”, don’t even talk to me because. . . that would confuse me because you’re me and that would mean I’m talking to myself. The Road Warrior; you’re where!? Crap, I knew I drank a lot last night but I, I mean “I” or “you”, can’t believe we(?) wound up on another continent. I’d blame this on you, Road Warrior, but I know I’d only be blaming myself.

2945. Comment by Only Facts | March 9th, 2010

      I have come to the realisation that no one here is who they say. We are all Gene. We are merely a physiological response to a shattered mind. In fact Droobli is actually Latin for Gene.

2946. Comment by beavis | March 9th, 2010

      Wasn’t this an old Star Trek episode?

2947. Comment by Only Facts | March 9th, 2010

      By the way it is me Kees you can whim

2948. Comment by The Road Warrior | March 9th, 2010

      Gene, how does knowing my name prove I’m not eagle, beavis etc? Do you know their names? Does it matter?

      Here’s the thing:

      Let’s say beavis is George
      Let’s say eaglescout is Tom
      Let’s say Only Facts is Bill
      Let’s say kees is, well….kees (coz I think it is)
      Let’s say I’m James

      George, Tom, Bill, kees and James….and MANY MANY MANY others have:

      a) Asked pointed questions about GroobLi where clarification is sought about a number of issues and inconsistencies

      b) Provided FACTUAL evidence in the form of independently sourced material on the web regarding a number of issues and inconsistencies with GroobLi

      Now…let’s say that George, Tom, Bill, kees and James are the same person. Apart from it being a ridiculous overhead to maintain these names for the past 18 months, would that make the questions and facts any less real?

      “Why are we worried about Europe”

      Well, see, here’s the thing. Say I’m a prospective GroobLi investor and I ask, “Gee, Europe has 830 million people. They used to have the shopping mall which is GroobLi’s ultimate aim. Now it’s gone. I really wanna invest but I’m just a little worried about this development because no-one answers my questions as to what happened. With more than 3 million customers in Europe alone, I’m thinking they would be very agitated by now. Please Gene, as a representative of not just GroobLi in the US, but as a rep of GroobLi’s plan overall, can you please put my mind at ease and answer this?”

      “Do you want to shop there? We have one here”

      Oh, well…as long as YOU’RE ok

2949. Comment by The Road Warrior | March 9th, 2010

      Dear Road Warrior

      Please stop calling me Only Facts

      Regards
      beavis

2950. Comment by The Road Warrior | March 9th, 2010

      Wait a minute!!
      I just realised what Gene said in his last post

      A message for me??

      I see on the liveliberty site a new audio set that wasn’t there before…the red one.

      But it wont play! I can’t hear anything. The other one is still fine and spewing out the same moronic propoganda.

      Please fix this Gene. Quick.

2951. Comment by beavis | March 9th, 2010

      He’s slowly sucking us into the madness. . .

2952. Comment by Only Facts | March 9th, 2010

      Oh Gene

      Just listened to your site.

      I have a couple of questions, but as you have been incapable of answering questions in the past I doubt you will with these.

      1. Were you on Prozac when you recorded that?
      2. Do you realise how many times you contradicted yourself in such a short time?

      Love the background porn music. As names are so important to you, you may call me John Cini.

2953. Comment by beavis | March 10th, 2010

      Another failed Droobli launch and, once again, all we have left to play with is Gene

2954. Comment by beavis | March 10th, 2010

      Here’s “Marquerita’s website”:

      healingandabundance.com

      It’s an “also ran” self-help site. If your really bored here is a Youtube link:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1DNLQRzGVg&feature=channel

      Don’t expect any substance; it’s not there. Her videos me remind me of the high school research reports I would create out of thin air a couple hours before they were due; only not as good.

2955. Comment by The Road Warrior | March 10th, 2010

      Oh yeah, I had crazy amounts of fun watching all her videos a little while back.

      The thing is after watching them (or listening to Gene) I feel like I need to wash with Drano.

      So….I’m just getting in a bit more Gene at

      http://www.liveliberty.ws/buzz

      This one is great!
      It’s promoting the iBuzzPro software, a voice broadcasting system that can generate “red hot leads”. Oh baby!! I just know myself that I hang out for the phone to ring and have a creepy, Vader-like voice recording trying to get my business. I usually don’t even let them finish – I just hand out my bank details

      You can watch the webinar here (keep the Drano handy though)

      http://gencol.ibuzzweb.com/numberonerecruitment

2956. Comment by kees | March 10th, 2010

      Re.
      ——————————————————–
      2917 Comment by Phil Leahy | March 8th, 2010

      This is no Mall! It is a landing page for an Affiliate program. All Droobli has done is do a deal with clix galore. com. au for links which anyone can do.
      Wake up people!
      ——————————————————–

      (I’ll repeat my comment from the whirlpool.net.au thread here (made towards H2H there, who talked about this as well)) :

      Good catch!

      I tried it out and made a screenshot, hovering over the “Visitor website” link indeed displays (bottom left) the ‘underlying’ url referring to “clixgalore”:

      http://i40.tinypic.com/2567f5k.jpg

      …. now… what does that mean…?

      edit to add – this is reminiscent of the “Droobli Merchandise” shops for BA’s, that are maintained by Shopify.com … and not by BSPRewards (MEDG/Droobli’s inhouse shop/mall “expert”‘)

      see:
      “www.drooblishop-us.com/blogs/news”
      “www.drooblishop-eu.com/blogs/news”

      look at that message…. and also hover the cursor above

      * This website is powered by GroobLi

      you’ll see “shopify.com” ‘under’ the “Droobli”-link…

      weird…

2957. Comment by The Road Warrior | March 10th, 2010

      Gene – I’d like to respond to one comment you made where you basically accused the entire world of lying and making up facts.

      On your liveliberty site, you mentioned vocally that GroobLi was launched in the US on Oct 4th 2008.

      You also mentioned “viral growth”, “bigger than ebay”, “biggest search engine in the world”…

      So it’s been nearly a year and a half since that launch.

      Please have a look at the following graph showing the US Droobli websites unique customer numbers over the past year.

      http://siteanalytics.compete.com/us.droobli.com/

      Do you see any growth in the numbers?

      Then have a look at this one which compares US GroobLi and Ebay

      http://siteanalytics.compete.com/us.droobli.com+ebay.com/

      Is it remotely possible for you to see that GroobLi is not growing as you were promised and that you are selling a dud?

2958. Comment by The Road Warrior | March 10th, 2010

      Oops, almost forgot…..EU

      Gene mentioned in his audio more than once how the company started in Germany:

      “We have the experience of Germany’s model to work off. We know it’s ups and downs and successes”

      Look at this:

      http://siteanalytics.compete.com/eu.droobli.com/

      Special note here:
      *12/2009 – 105 unique visitors (at Christmas time too!)

      GroobLi has gone anti-viral!!

2959. Comment by Pittmeister | March 10th, 2010

      I am convinced from my detailed study that this entire blog is written by two people. The yin is eaglescout/charlie/Dr Reynolds/kees/Road warrior/etc. and the yang is Jason Switzer/Gene/Marguerite/Guess again/etc. I am not thoroughly convinced that every post here hasn’t been written by the same person with two personalities. I also remain to be convinced that Droobli exists at all. I think this might be some government thing to keep people amused during time of war.

      This is all part of the matrix. I am the first genuine person to post on this site. Plug into this. Bread and circuses. Catatonia is the new thing.

2960. Comment by The Road Warrior | March 10th, 2010

      I just realised that Siteanalytics requires a login

      So Gene, please make sure you do sign up and have a look at the links. There is no need to use a credit to see the price of signing up….it’s free

2961. Comment by won't say | March 10th, 2010

      Will the real john cini please stand up. There’s so many of you around. Which one are you? Now are you

      Only Facts, Beav, Eagle, and the list goes on, also? You’ve been beating down this company from the start. You didn’t

      even give it a chance to start before you lambasted it. Before the launch even. Must have had some inside scup here. Sounds a lot fishy to me. Only makes sense you’ve got something rotten in Sweden. Or is that Germany or or where is it anyway? Really john, why don’t you check out these sleazy google ads promoted here. I mean if you are against a scam there’s a lot to look at here right in the ads.

2962. Comment by won't say | March 10th, 2010

      Or is that scoop? No it’s scup because it’s fishy around this cesspool.

2963. Comment by Only Facts | March 10th, 2010

      Sorry wont say, I’m too busy trying to get through all the sleazy Google adds with the word Droobli in them. Let try again shall we……can you supply me with 1 independent source that can verify any Droobli claim ?

2964. Comment by beavis | March 10th, 2010

      Before which launch, Gene? The one where Droobli was supposed to take over Europe? The one where Droobli was supposed to explode across the US? Or maybe you are talking about the Droobli launch that was supposed to turn Australia into the springboard for the final push throughout all of the world?

      Gene, you are, without a doubt, a liar. Your company is a farce. Your dream is a cheap con. Your business plan is idiocy.

2965. Comment by won't say | March 10th, 2010

      Any business takes work man. I can tell you it works. But you don’t want to listen to me.

      I buy products from the company, I get products from the company. Yu da liar beav. I’ve bought from the shop

      and the auction. You think the company discriminates and just gives me good service? Poo.

      With your top notch bull blog it doesn’t help much. If everyone believes what you liars are saying of

      course it’s going to hurt our business. You’ve done it from the start. The jig’s up. Admit it. You are like a bunch of chickens pecking on the hurt clucker. With the way you talk beav and the rest of you guys or is it you and john cini, who can

      believe or would want to believe your story? Who cares what so called facts you produce. From my experience with you no accounts it’s twisted anyway. Can ya understand my word huh boys? Hey maybe Pittmeister might have something. Nah.

      It’s the sing and the sang. Same song for you guys with perverse lyrics. Talk about a cheap con beav you take the cake.

      That’s all for now. Maybe I’ll see ya next month.

2966. Comment by The Road Warrior | March 10th, 2010

      One day you might see the light Gene. If this blog has “hurt” GroobLi’s business…excellent. It means it’s saved countless people from throwing away their money on a useless scheme.

      Also, no-one is saying that you haven’t bought from the shop or from the auctions. What is being said is that the “reverse” auction plan, the shopping mall, the “bigger than ebay and amazon” claims, the general business plan is overly complex and stupid and only serves to make money for the top level executives. A lot of ordinary people will suffer.

      “Who cares what so called facts you produce”

      Well…maybe you wont see the light

2967. Comment by Unconvinced by Gene episodes | March 10th, 2010

      Gene McNeally from Omaha Nebraska would love everyone to visit him at his house. Give him a call first to line up a meeting.

2968. Comment by beavis | March 10th, 2010

      Gene said:

      “You are like a bunch of chickens pecking on the hurt clucker.”

      Yes, Gene, when Droobli is down we will kick it.

      And as far as the facts we produce, go look what the just resigned Droobli Director had to say about Droobli. His letter of resignation speaks volumes about the little operation you belong to. And while your at it go read the published financials and explain why the whole frigging “global” operation has very little gross revenue. Your company sucks.

2969. Comment by beavis | March 11th, 2010

      I’m sorry; there was a typo. I typed:

      “Your company sucks.”

      when I meant to type:

      “Your company sucks giant donkey balls.”

2970. Comment by Only Facts | March 11th, 2010

      Gene have you ever looked at the other anti droobli sites? This is not the only one. Maybe you can find some joy there.

2971. Comment by "Big Arnie" Rossario | March 11th, 2010

      My first post an I’m a little nervous. This Gene McNeally sounds like a guy I know of in Douglas, Nebraska. A real creepy guy. The town Quasimodo. Former carpenter now imagines himself to be a big shot internet millionaire. Drives a big car. Real flash. The poor wife to put up with a real creep like that.

2972. Comment by Marshall Duke | March 11th, 2010

      Douglas? I’m from Lincoln. I could go over there and visit him some night. Think I will. Meet this celebrated jackass. See how tough he is in real life.

2973. Comment by bella | March 11th, 2010

      Any truth to the Marguerita and Gene rumors? That they’re both vampires in love in the twilight of their careers?

2974. Comment by Jackyboy | March 12th, 2010

      Wow, just wow. WTF?

2975. Comment by Bob "Open Fly" Phillips | March 12th, 2010

      It’s been quite a ride on this site. There some interesting people about. I’ve come to understand the mind of scammers like Gene McNeally from Douglas, Nebraska. He came on here like the saint admitting to his weirdo Seventh Day Adventist beliefs. (A whole religion based on which day of the week is the true Sabbath – can you believe those idiots?)

      Then we find he’s basically selling anything known to man through his amateurish websites. He’s got cheap air tickets to Mexico. He’s got chaga mushrooms for cancer victims, he’s got free Droobli credits for the curious, etc.

      Basically we find trhis failed manual laborer with a recent community college piece of toilet paper flogging everything to make a buck. And apparently he’s being true to his religious beliefs while he’s fleecing people! That guy is amazing. I’ve never met a guy who could lie like that and be such a rip-off merchant and yet tell everyone that he’s a great Christian.

      Gene McNeally from Douglas, Nebraska makes me sick. He’s a using creep. i’d love to see how he relates to his own kind – the hicks that dominate his Facebook “friends”. A really think Gene is such a poisonous person that he’s probably having a negative effect in his community. I think the people of Douglas should run him out of town. I bet they would love to see the last of his smirking face with the idiotic bovine expression. Perhaps he could be packed off to Droobliland.

2976. Comment by Casey | March 13th, 2010

      Well that says it all, a Seventh Day Adventist and he calls himself a Christian, WOW. Gene McNeally I’ve listened to your audio and seen your creepy face,(you look one of the cast in “One Flew over the Cookoo’s Nest”) You have been given all the evidence and links to prove that Droobli is a SCAM, (Have a look how great the Australian launch is not going) but you are still trying to rip good people off, this really makes you a creep.
      I hope Big Arnie, Marshall Duke and Open Fly come and pay you a visit and give you some Droobli credits. I would but I’m too far away.

2977. Comment by Thomas Paine | March 13th, 2010

      I defend the right of Gene McNeally of Douglas, Nebraska to practice his religious views. That’s freedom. I do not defend his right to harangue people about Droobli. That is why companies like Coke, McDonald’s, etc don’t rely on word of mouth advertising. It turns people into pimps. Droobli should just pay for advertising like other companies.

      Also, if I might give a suggestion to any Droobli executives who may read this blog – drop the 80 cents fee to look at the price of the things you are selling. That is just stupid and will never work. That is the reason why you’ve been operating unsuccessfully since 2003 hoping another re-launch will fix your problems. first just drop the 80 cent fee to look at a price. Make it free like it is in every other store.

2978. Comment by Sinking Ship | March 13th, 2010

      Didn’t he promise rides in his new Droobli Bentley and trips to Droobli Island???

      VERY recent email from the DroobliKing himself…..

      I am reminded of that Leo DiCaprio movie where he thought he was the “king of the world”

      ———- Forwarded message ———-
      From: Jasn Switzr
      Subject: GroobLi
      To: Jason Switzer

      Hello GroobLi current and past members-

      Thank you for reaching out to Tom Rozof and I while we have both taken a 6 week break from GroobLi. Our position is still active with GroobLi and nothing has changed except we have not been able to be available for the Team as everyone was accustomed to over a 18 month period.
      - If you need help with your business, please contact Dean Manheimmer at isg8164@cox.net or 623 242 1642 , put in GroobLi Support tickets and follow up with other leaders in your Organization. Tom or I will communicate when and if we are available to support you with GroobLi.

      Tom and I are discussing what we are going to do with the company we formed together back in 2008 and how that affects our GroobLi position we partnered into.
      We still believe GroobLi is a great business and we’ve not entered into any other businesses nor plan on it.

      Depending on what we decide, Tom and I may want to sell our position to move forward. If that is the case, you would be the first people we let take advantage of one of the strongest positions in GroobLi. Next week we will list everything we have built. All the websites (replicated site, social network, lead system, etc which will be given to the buyer if we decide to sell)

      Here is some current information on the position BA# 9495046
      1) There are over 22,000 credits in the account
      2) Over 300 days still active as a Gold Advantage Sales Director
      3) 2 out of the 5 SD legs needed to hit VP are already filled and the other 3 SD legs needed to hit VP are not that far off from happening
      4) Thousands of Organizational Customers and over 350 personal customers.
      5) An excel list of most of the email addresses of all the BA’s in the organization
      6) Over 825 active BA’s listed in the GroobLiNetwork backoffice presently
      - With the GroobLi customer acquisition program starting now, a BA would be in a great position to do very well with GroobLi in 2010 and into the future with our spot. Tom & I could hang onto this position and make the commissions ourselves. But we would rather have someone strong go into this position to help support the entire Team, rather than us just sit back and collect commissions if we decide it’s best for us to sell.

      - I have personally have received 100’s of emails and phone calls over the last 6 weeks from members of the GroobLi team. Thank you for reaching out to us. Tom and/or I will be following up with the members of the organization individually or on a webinar soon.

      Please only reply to this email, if you are interested in learning more about the position.

      Regards,

      Jason Switzer

2979. Comment by Casey | March 14th, 2010

      Jason Switzer and Tom Rozof. I’d say it looks like 2 rats leaving a sinking ship. They have seen the writing on the wall and are bailing out. The Drooblidiot that contemplates this takeover is surely doomed, and will lose a lot of money.

2980. Comment by kees | March 15th, 2010

      Hi Sinking-Ship, that’s interesting info, where did you get that “VERY recent email from the DroobliKing himself”?

      Can we view it somewhere online?
      Are you a BA?

      thanks

2981. Comment by Early Bidder | March 15th, 2010

      Hey, Jason Switzer, I’ll give you 5 bucks for your lofty “position” in Droobli. Take it or leave it. I don’t mind throwing away 5 bucks. It’s not much.

2982. Comment by M. Spence | March 15th, 2010

      I, too, am calling on Droobli to drop the 80 cents to have a look fee. That’s just stupid. No one in their right mind would get involved in something where you had to pay 80 cents to see the price. That’s ridiculous. If it was such a great idea WalMart would do it.

2983. Comment by Jack Daddy | March 15th, 2010

      But if Droobli is such a great business why is he wanting to sell up? Wasn’t Droobli going to be our key to financial freedom? Why on earth would you sell up and move on?

      This email alone is worth more than any other factual post written on this site combined.

      If someone, such as Jason Switzer, is jumping ship after preaching the ‘good’ word of Droobli since 2008, then I’d be seriously worried if I were a BA.

      You don’t just ship from an opportunity that you have percieved to be the best out there for some time. He didn’t even give a decent reason either.

2984. Comment by The Road Warrior | March 15th, 2010

      Oh it’s just wonderful reading Jason Switzer’s email (assuming it’s legitimate…can you provide a link Sinking Ship?)

      Read posts from August 2009 – Mr Switzer was very active on this blog around that time and was VERY vocal in his support of GroobLi.

      But like Charlie, Bob, Realist…. The GroobLi promises just don’t add up, hey?

      What do we think it was that tipped him? I personally think the 105 unique visitors to the EU site in a xmas month. But really, it could have been any number of things.

      He said-
      “We still believe GroobLi is a great business and we’ve not entered into any other businesses nor plan on it”

      Bullshit

2985. Comment by beavis | March 15th, 2010

      Before we act like a bunch of Drooblidiots at a rally, let’s see some confirmation

      OK, it does sound like the egotistical loser, but I just want to be sure

      Then I’m going to raise Early Bidder’s bid of $5 to seven Droobli tokens (a $5.60 value).

2986. Comment by beavis | March 15th, 2010

      You have to see these “genuine” testimonials about Jason Switzer:

      http://thedroobliblog.com/testimonial-from-dawna-van-diggelen/

      http://thedroobliblog.com/testimonial-from-david-hughes-sales-director/

      Notice the similarity

2987. Comment by kees | March 15th, 2010

      I think this page from Jason’s site says it all:

      http://thedroobliblog.com/?tag=more-customers :

      —————

      Posts Tagged more-customers
      Not Found

      Sorry, but you are looking for something that is not here.

      —————

      

2988. Comment by Jeffner | March 15th, 2010

      Hahahahahahaha!!!

2989. Comment by beavis | March 15th, 2010

      Jason Switzer is truly the poster child for Droobli. To quote Elizabeth Bowen:

      “”The stupid person’s idea of a clever person.”

2990. Comment by kees | March 16th, 2010

      New figures from siteanalytics.compete.com are in, for the month of Feb. 2010.

      Unique-vistors to Droobli-us keep falling, despite all the AU/NZ activity that ‘registers’ ‘under’ the Droobli-us banner.

      But amazingly, the Unique-visitor count to Droobli-eu shoots up.

      Overall however, the stats for various Droobli-sites combined aren’t yet overwhelmingly encouraging.

      Stats Droobli-us:

      Nov. 2009: 55,972 Unique-visitors
      Dec 2009: 42,058
      Jan 2009: 38,310
      Feb 2009: 32,268

      Stats Droobli-eu:

      from 105 Unique-visitors in Dec. 2009
      to 5,162 Unique Visitors in Feb. 2010

      ———————

      more info/links in my post at:

      http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?r=23147526#r23147526

2991. Comment by beavis | March 16th, 2010

      I guess those millions of customers are all sharing IP addresses

      OK, Drooblidiots, you’ve got your auction platform and you’ve got your shopping mall. Now show me the money!

2992. Comment by IsNumisTheNextDublin | March 16th, 2010

      About a year ago I was contacted by “friends” with information about the best thing ever… Droobli! I decided not to join after reading the information on this message board.
      Now those same friends have dumped Droobli, and claim that Numis Network is the REAL DEAL. All I have to do is buy a silver coin every month, and get everyone else to do the same…

      Could this be the real deal? I don’t want to miss out…all sounds so good…

2993. Comment by J. G. Newton | March 17th, 2010

      Yes, Numis (short for ‘numismatics’ or ‘coin-collecting’)is the next Droobli. It is so the next Droobli. I urge all the drooblidiots to jump the sinking ship that is Droobli and hop over to this new Numis thing.

      You Drooblidiots all want to get rich by doing nothing. Well, Numis is for you! So simple, so easy. Just buy a silver coin. Gene’s already signed up! He’s even painting copper coins silver! That’s the best way to go viral!

      Have you ever wished you’d gotten in on the ground floor with Amazon and ebay? well, you can with Numis!

      Join Numis today. A free coin for any droobli BAs who join. This is going to be big. Maybe even bigger than Droobli Rhode Island! Don’t wait for your ship to come in! Swim out to it with Numis!

2994. Comment by Bob "Open Fly" Phillips | March 17th, 2010

      I just love Gene McNeally of Douglas, Nebraska. Now his links from some of his posts link to a chaga mushroom site. It’s a site where there are claims that chaga mushrooms cure cancer. Gene should be thrown in jail. He’s a menace to society.

      It’s hilarious that he no longer mentions his beloved Droobli. What happened to the $10,000 a week he claimed to have been making?

      Gene is a pathological liar. He will lie to you while trying to take your money. He’s a snake oil con artist.

2995. Comment by Casey | March 17th, 2010

      Gene’s still here
      http://www.liveliberty.ws/Dugold
      Changed his Audio recently, but still the same Bullshit on his 2nd rate site. We all should go there and collect the 10 free Droobli credits he is offering and check out this next Ebay, on Gene.

2996. Comment by Boyd | March 18th, 2010

      I just received an exclusive invite in my apartment’s mailbox, for what appears to be some smooth-talker’s attempt to host an information evening for this scam.

      I do some googling straight away because alarm bells were ringing just from the look of the invite.

      What is it with all these scammers and internet crazies that’s so immediately off-putting? Is it the overstated punctuation (!!!), or the faux-classy font on my invite?

      Colour me thoroughly amused by pages of shills defending the program here.

      I wonder if they have offices and networks of students (with a lot of free time and an internet connection) getting .10c per positive PR forum post? I wonder if they realise how much more shady it makes the whole venture seem?

2997. Comment by The Road Warrior | March 18th, 2010

      A while back, someone brought up Bidcactus as a comparison to GroobLi. While Bidcactus is really just another moronic, money-grabbing auction site based on the idea that wasting money is fun, it’s interesting to compare it’s growth over the past year against that of GroobLi’s.

      http://www.flickr.com/photos/archive13/4444494272/sizes/o/

      Note here how Bidcactus has ACTUALLY SHOWN GROWTH while GroobLi has not.

      Note how Bidcactus has actually reached a point of have 1 million unique visitors to their site. GroobLi has not.

      In fact (and it’s a little hard to see in that grapth) but GroobLi’s trend is downwards.

      So for the GroobLi BAs – are you aware of this? GroobLi was launched in the US just before that graph starts and has had Australia launch in the meantime. Yet is shows no sign of life. No growth.

      Do these graphs make it onto webinars? (I know, stupid question). But they should.

      Remember when Gene said:

      “Business is excitement and numbers created and all that”

      But it’s not exciting when the numbers aren’t there. Right Gene. That’s right isn’t it?

2998. Comment by beavis | March 19th, 2010

      I hate to say this, but I think we are going to run out of Drooblidiots to abuse if his trend continues. Oh well; we can move on to chaga mushroom scammers and enchanted berry juice scumbags when the time comes. It’s just hard to find a scam that is as stupid as Droobli.

2999. Comment by kees | March 19th, 2010

      The Road Warrior, good point, here’s some more comparison, with even more recent “fun auction” sites:

      http://i39.tinypic.com/2a0f8tl.jpg

3000. Comment by IsNumisTheNextDublin | March 20th, 2010

      Beavis – You can turn your attention to NUMIS NETWORK, this is where all the GROOBLI head scumbags are heading… many have already arrived.

      Here is one of their marketing pages.. http://www.15kprofits.com/
      https://www.numisnetwork.com/

      Looks like easy money!!!!! I can also do this while I am sleeping.

      Hurry!… they are only sharing the info with a select few…

3001. Comment by beavis | March 21st, 2010

      IsNumisTheNextDroobli,

      Yeah, it would be fun but only if you are into the coin collection thing so that you could really lay into them. I, personally, have little interest in numismatics. If someone would like to be the resident coin expert I’d be glad to tear into their financials.

3002. Comment by Eugene | March 23rd, 2010

      Boy, it’s quiet here. There aren’t even any interesting Drooblidiots providing comedy relief. Has Droobli dried up and blown away or what?

3003. Comment by kees | March 23rd, 2010

      Re. Comment 2978, by Sinking Ship | March 13th, 2010

      As reported by “Jeffner” on the au-whirlpool (“should I be droobli dubious?”) thread, it seems Jason S. & Thomas R. are in deed selling their Droobli position.

      Now also on Facebook:
      http://www.facebook.com/GroobLiOnlineShopping?v=wall&ref=ts

      (screenshot):
      http://i41.tinypic.com/qocbyx.jpg

      ———-
      “GroobLi Gold Sales Director position for sale: 1) There are over 22,000 credits in the account 2) Over 295 days still active as a Gold Advantage Sales Director 3) 2 out of the 5 SD legs needed to hit VP are already filled and the other 3 SD legs needed to hit VP are not that far off from happening 4) Thousands of Organizational Customers and over 350 personal customers.”
      ———-

3004. Comment by Gore Vidal | March 23rd, 2010

      I can’t onto this site very much depending on the computer I’m using. Doesn’t load anymore on a couple of computers I use. I think the blog is just too big now.

3005. Comment by Casey | March 23rd, 2010

      Same here Gore Vidal, some days does not fully load and I get error report. I think blog has used all available space? Can also follow the Drooblidiots story at this link.
      http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1278895&p=86

3006. Comment by beavis | March 24th, 2010

      eaglescout, how much will it cost to upgrade your account to accommodate the size of this blog? I’ll pitch in; just tell me what you need. Gene, you are going to help out, too, right?

3007. Comment by Matthew Matthewson | March 24th, 2010

      I wonder if Gene McNeally from Douglas Nebraska is still claiming to be getting “checks – big ones too!!!” The guy is a notorious spin merchant. Why does lying come so easily to Gene? Imagine the whoppers he has to tell dying cancer patients to sell his magical chaga mushrooms! Maybe it’s easy to sell to dying people. They are so desparate. But how does Gene McNeally’s conscience allow him to do it? I don’t understand that kind of evil. He seems capable of anything.

3008. Comment by Eugene | March 27th, 2010

      Matthew — You’re assuming that Gene has a conscience. I think that’s a BIG assumption. There is a technical term for such people — they’re called Sociopaths. For some reason, such people are magnetically attracted to things like Droobli. Perhaps it’s because lying and misleading people is second nature for the likes of them.

      I’ve been having problems connecting here, and in fact this is the first time I’ve been able to get on here in days. Would it be possible to split the older material in this blog off into an archive, and keep the current stuff here?

      In any event, the evidence cited above and the clearly botched Australian launch suggest that Droobli is dying a natural death. It will not be mourned.

3009. Comment by John Newman | March 30th, 2010

      Droobli is crap! Also, they now exchange stock on the US market by buying Medianet Group (stock MEDG).. Get em outta here!

3010. Comment by kees | March 30th, 2010

      Interesting:

      * Italy Shuts Down Lowest-Bid Auction Sites *
      March 30, 2010
      http://www.auctionbytes.com/cab/abn/y10/m03/i30/s02

      3 short quotes:

      ——–
      Rocco Gianluca Massa, Editor of International Traders, reported that Italian law-enforcement agency Guardia di Finanza (GdF) has shut down a number of auction websites in Italy that run lowest unique bid auctions.
      ——–
      Lowest unique bid auctions are a cousin of the penny auction sites that gained traction in the U.S. over the past year when Swoopo entered the market from Germany.
      ——–
      Mr. Mass said the GdF considered the lowest-bid operators to be betting websites without a license to practice their activity online.
      ——–

      No mention of Droobli though…

3011. Comment by One of the "Dublin Idiots" | March 30th, 2010

      I am sorry for all you folks that spend your time bashing something without any facts and figures. Droobli is work just like any other job, but if you’re willing to work, then you can be a success. If any of you registered as a Droobli Business Associate and thought you were going to make instant money without any effort than of course you are disappointed.

      Buying Media NetGroup Technologies, MEDG, was a positive move on their part. They are now a publicly traded company with transparency to the public.

      While you spend your time here whining about things you don’t know about, I’m going to be working hard initially to build residual income. Then I’m going to retire and enjoy living while you are still working your butts off.

3012. Comment by kees | March 30th, 2010

      “Then I’m going to retire and enjoy living while you are still working your butts off”

      Sorry to hear you don’t enjoy living now.
      I made it my number 1 priority to ALWAYS enjoy living, even before I retired. I can recommend you doing the same

3013. Comment by Michael Hansen | April 10th, 2010

      http://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/DisplayFiling.aspx?TabIndex=2&FilingID=6984486&companyid=109045&ppu=%252fdefault.aspx%253fcik%253d1097792

3014. Comment by eaglescout | April 11th, 2010

      Beavis,

      I’m considering creating a discussion forum / message board.

      This page is getting too long and there are so many people picking GroobLi apart that I can’t keep up.

3015. Comment by Steve Jobs | April 26th, 2010

      Nice one “Bobby Jensen”. The real Bobby Jensen is working out ways to avoid a life in prison. You scammers are all the same. Sell the same old snake old just put a different label on it. Now we have worthless “business associate memberships” being sold. What a joke. Still waiting for a mention of Droobli in the main steam media. I heard Gene McNeally is the new CEO of Droobli. Can anyone confirm that? There are still people believing in Droobli just like the Flat Earth Society.

3016. Comment by eaglescout | April 29th, 2010

      We seem to have resolved the issue with memory limits.

      Comments on this page may be closed soon. I recommend anyone interested in further discussion visit http://thespinfactor.com/talk/

3017. Comment by Gene McNeally from Douglas, Nebraska | April 30th, 2010

      You’ve ruined your own blog. LOL. Boy you guys couldn’t managa a chicken coop. And then you attack a good business like Droobli. You really need to grow up. Droobli is growing fast because it’s viral. Thats Ive been trying to tell you but you don’t listen. Its always going to grow viral because its e commerce. Some of you know nothing about ecommerce. you wont try it. I have more than 30 opportunities in e commerce and I sell over 600 products and services. I’m just about the wealthies man in Douglas. I’m not kidding. I have lots of cars and a big house. Why? E commerce. And droobli is my best prospect. I get checks regular ut I wont say how much. Try for yourself. Youll never win and Ill just continue to make money. Want some free credits? Droobli keeps growing

3018. Comment by Eugene | April 30th, 2010

      According to Wikipedia, Douglas, Nebraska has a population of 231. (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas,_Nebraska)

      Is being “…The wealthies[t] man in Douglas” the equivalent of being the best football team in Alaska?

3019. Comment by beavis | May 1st, 2010

      Eugene,

      Gene McNealy said “I’m just about the wealthies (sic) man in Douglas” (key word: “about”). It’s more like being the equivalent of being the best cricket team in Alaska (and equally important).

3020. Comment by Nick | May 3rd, 2010

      I love the Droobli banner on this page.

      For people who are here to help you seem very aggressive and demeaning towards those trying to defend their business. It’s only logical that these people who signed up with GroobLi post here too, as you’re hurting their business, and all you’re doing is being like a bully instead of helping, sure some of you do but a lot of posts here call them Droobliots or Sociopaths. And seeing the amount of posts both here and on Whirlpool are maybe only contributed by a handful of people I will take the liberty of assuming this is all you do on the internet, making fun of people you claim to want to help. What does that really make you?

      I just don’t know which of you is worse, Droobli or you kicking someone who is already down, but claiming to reach out and help them up.

      Have a good one!

3021. Comment by Your No Good | May 4th, 2010

      You people on here are something else. You have to attack a good opportunity to make money. Its viral e trading. whats wrong with it? Could one you cowards tell me that? You are always saying trash about Droobli. Do you know Droobli? I’ve made money from Droobli. If you don’t want money thats fine with me. Just gives me more. You haven’t given it a chance. Tell me whats wrong with it? Oh you can’t, can you? Thats just you knocking it. Families depend on Droobli money. Thats positive. Im trying to help all of you but you people here (not Droobli people) have never had the imagination to climb to the top. Douglas has more than 300 people and more than a hundred in surrounding areas. Im proud about what Ive built. Can you say that Beavis? Done nothing I bet. Achieved nothing.

3022. Comment by MH | May 4th, 2010

      Nick, Gene, etc. I have to tell you that the people on this site are correct. Droobli sells Business Associate memberships. That’s it. I’ve made money from it. Couldn’t care less about the rest of you. you’re just idiots to join it. You deserve to be scammed by me. Drop by my yacht some time. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

3023. Comment by beavis | May 4th, 2010

      Nick,

      What part of “participating in a scam” don’t you understand? An active Drooblidiot is out running about attempting to perform an act (recruitment in Droobli) that financially hurts people. Should we call them Droobli Business Associates like Droobli does as if their position has some credibility? Should we nicely allow them to defend their “business” when we know it to be a scam? No; we will continue to call them Drooblidiots because it more accurately describes their position with Droobli and we will continually point out that their “fantastic business opportunity” is, in fact, a scam. Sorry, but this is just how this works on an anti-Droobli blog. If you are looking for a happier website might I suggest you frequent hamsterdance.com.

3024. Comment by Only Facts | May 5th, 2010

      Nick.

      You are absolutely correct in saying people that have signed up with Droobli can post here too. It would, however, have been much more beneficial if they looked at this and the other sites prior to signing up as the end result may have been very different. This is the main purpose of this and other sites. To inform individuals on information sourced by non-Droobli sources. Information that Droobli will out right lie about, ignore or attempt to spin. As far as the term Droobliots and Sociopaths, what you would call a person that consistently tells you 1 + 1 = 3, and no matter how many times you prove them wrong, their answer will not change? What would you call a person that is nothing more than a snake oil salesman, that will sell a miracle cure to a dying man that they know will not work. What would you call a person like Your no good that makes statements such as “Tell me whats wrong with it? Oh you can’t, can you?” when it is as simply as reading this forum and he will received proof positive whats wrong with Droobli. This person will probably say it would take too long to read all the posts, then tell his next victim he has researched the business fully and it’s great. Here are a couple of points that have been proven beyond a doubt within this and other anti-Droobli sites.

      1. Droobli claims they have never been Bankrupt, yet the Danish public records clearly states they have.

      2. In some instances Droobli has claimed they have over 140,000 BA’s, yet their official claim to the SEC

      states they have several thousand. True an ambiguous number, but safe to say around 5,000.

      3. Droobli claims that Europe is a massive success with Millions of customers. Europe has not had an

      auction site for many months now, and again SEC records show Europe was only 7% of what was

      a very low quarter profits.

      4. Droobli testimonials have been proven to be fabricated.

      5. Droobli claims there is no gambling involved, yet their own terms and conditions state there is

      gamming, and they even dropped the Zero auction as a result.

      If this is not enough for you I will ask the same old question again. A question that has never been answered.

      Show me one Droobli claim that can be independently verified.

3025. Comment by Bob | May 7th, 2010

      Things are eerily quiet now.
      The ship has sunk, and people have for the most part moved on.

      The only choice now is how to process the experience.

      For GroobLi people:
      Agenda, and credibility (or lack thereof) will follow you.
      Any leaders care to chime in on what thy have learned?

3026. Comment by Hoyes333 | May 7th, 2010

      Guess what? The guy who felt sorry for me last year because I wouldn’t join Droobli just told me he’s bankrupt and that he didn’t make anything from good ol’ Droobli. Lost it all.

      Should have done his “due diligence”. Bobby Jensen how do you sleep at night? Seriously, tell me.

3027. Comment by beavis | May 8th, 2010

      The MediocreNet stock is in a nice, leisurely downtrend over this year. Warms my heat to think about Bobby Jensen losing his money, too. Soon, it will all disappear.

3028. Comment by Eugene | May 8th, 2010

      At some point during the month that this forum was basically shut down, the whole Droobli concept seems to have imploded.

      Was it the underwhelming Australian launch? Any ideas/suggestions?

      The whole Droobli thing is a curiosity to me. If I hadn’t happened upon this forum in pursuit of an unrelated matter about a year ago, I would never have heard of Droobli. That says a lot about their media profile in North America last year (or lack thereof).

      Speculation/thoughts welcome.

3029. Comment by Dublindiots are evil | May 9th, 2010

      Whatever happened to Gene? Now that Droobli is finished what’s he gonna do? I guess he’ll keep selling his worthless chaga mushrooms to his patients out there in Douglas, Nebraska. Gene McNeally is the only free man on the planet. He had no conscience. No sense of right or wrong. no morals or ethics that bind the rest of us to act responsibly.

      The guy made money his God and suffered the consequences. His foolish bovine grin will haunt me always.

3030. Comment by Martin | May 9th, 2010

      Great to see this back up – and an explanation for why I couldn’t load it before. Taken me a while to catch up with the reading.

      The Google Ad at the bottom right now for me is http://www.droobli-buzz.com so I look forward to seeing how long it takes for all this to pan out.

      Still comes up no 4 site in Google in Australia (whirlpool.net.au is helping out), and no 2 site in the US Google.

3031. Comment by beavis | May 9th, 2010

      I found some interesting info on the Morningstar site about MediocreNet (AKA “Droobli):

      Through Memory Lane Syndication division, the Company has acquired ownership of 130 color episodes of the 1970’s Howdy Doody television show.

      It’s all starting to come together now. . .

3032. Comment by Barry Hall | May 10th, 2010

      I am disappointed with all the claims about Droobli. I made nothing. Won’t get my money back. I was a true believer going around and trying to convert everyone. I just succeeded in annoying everyone. MLM sux. All of them. In the end i just couldn’t use people. I’m an idiot to have believed anything a Droobli person told me. All of them are liars. I thought I was joining a Christian organization. Hilarious. From what I read about this gene McNeally he sounds like the same old thing too. Even sets up a fake website to establish his religious bonafides. All you have to do is look at his photo to see that he’s pure evil. Anyone in droobli is a sleazy con artist. Simple.

3033. Comment by Teacher A | May 12th, 2010

      Drooblidiots are pathetic people drawn from the lower socio-economic areas. They haven’t got much going for them. basically, they are losers in the game of life. I like the fact that droobli has no real customers. Any bidding/buying is almost always done by the Drooblidiots themselves. This is because their membership fees give them a certain amount of free credits. Droobli is over my friends move on to the next scam.

3034. Comment by beavis | May 12th, 2010

      Teacher A,

      Why are you so down on the little pustules?

3035. Comment by Marshall Duke | May 13th, 2010

      Bobby Jensen is scum. how he can live with himself after creating this little droobli scam I’ll never know. You have no conscience, Mr. Jensen and you deserve jail time.

3036. Comment by K. D. Harris | May 14th, 2010

      What’s with Drooblidiots? Droobli is a middleman company and therefore totally unnecessary. It doesn’t make anything and there are already plenty of online stores and real stores. Again, Droobli isn’t needed by anyone. Our retail needs are already taken care of.

      Droobli, come back when you’ve actually made something or invented something or come up with even at least one new idea. I repeat – Droobli is totally unnecessary.

      As for Droobli’s claim about being the lowest price anywhere – Middleman companies are never the cheapest alternative. Never (unless they have huge purchasing and distribution systems like Walmart).

      Droobli – a totally unnecessary idea. Who needs it?

3037. Comment by Frank Schue | May 15th, 2010

      OK KDH – we got it – Droobli is totally unnecessary. But why even talk about it? I heard Droobli was finished and the assets are being sold.

3038. Comment by beavis | May 16th, 2010

      Frank Schue,

      As much as I would welcome the demise of Droobli, is there any sources you can show that indicate that this is actually happening? The world is full of gullible people (“hi, Gene”) that could perpetuate this scam far longer than one would expect.The stock seems to be fluttering about at 40 cents per share for the last month and a half after a nice decline from early March.

3039. Comment by Frank Schue | May 16th, 2010

      Oh really? I guess whoever told me had it wrong. So Droobli staggers on a little longer, I guess.

3040. Comment by Dublin Millionaire | May 18th, 2010

      Fools all of you. I made $4 million dollars from Droobli last year. I have everything including some human slaves I keep in my basement.

3041. Comment by beavis | May 18th, 2010

      Droobli Millionaire said:

      “I have everything including some human slaves I keep in my basement.”

      I take it you are referring to your downline.

3042. Comment by Mr Cynic | May 19th, 2010

      Just been told by a droobli recruiter that they are launching in Australia in June, and then a push into Asia………..und tomorrow ze vurld! Oops – got a little carried away there. Apparently there are still some out there – it hasn’t gone away yet!

3043. Comment by Eugene | May 19th, 2010

      I guess the recent Australia “launch” a few months back just became and “un-launch”, rather like Droobli’s Chinese “launch” that retroactively never happened?

      Given the lack of traffic in the Droobli discussion over at Whirlpool, it would appear that Droobli has vanished with narry a ripple down there.

3044. Comment by Jacobs | May 20th, 2010

      I love it that only Drooblidiots bid on the express auctions. For every item on these auctions the pool of bidders pay about three times the normal price for the goods offered. This is because you spend 80 cents to bid/check prices but the price only goes down by 25 cents. I think it’s hilarious that it’s only Drooblidiots losing money this way.

      No one else would think Droobli is anything other then some stupid idea made up by a kid. Droobli people are desperate people who’ve failed at normal jobs or other business ventures so they will grasp at anything to give meaning to their pathetic lives.

      I don’t care if Droobli keeps going. It’s only Drooblidiots who will keep paying three times as much for things. Of course, this is as a group. An occasional Drooblidiot will get something cheaper if they buy something once and then never do it again. But this gambling scheme doesn’t work that way. Eventually the Drooblidiots will bid losing 80 cents after 80 cents.

      I call it sweet justice for that group of morons. Keep going Drooblidiots. Keep bidding. You gotta save some money one day!!! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

3045. Comment by Texarse | May 22nd, 2010

      Hello.

      I’m in Australia and last week I had a glossy flyer delivered in my mailbox. Obviously, it was about droobli (otherwise I wouldn’t be here, posting). My initial thought was “SCAM!” and a quick google later brought me here (amongst other places).

      I was discussing it with my partner who said that she’d heard of it and that someone that we both work with was involved. This person also sells enjo products (which are pretty good I think). (Disclaimer: my partner also sells tupperware, which is good, but also expensive).

      I’ve read this page (skipping over the childish taunts and name-calling) but, come to the conclusion that it’s a scam. I’ve also come to the conclusion that the people who are sucked into simply will not see it as a scam until it’s far too late. Cognitive dissonance at work.

      Some of the posters here were initially quite enthusiastic, but later came back in sheepishly posting they’d been ripped off. (Others I suspect realised they’d been ripped off, but couldn’t admit they were wrong so, they were never heard from again.)

      Anyway.

      Given that BAs can only make money by recruiting, I want to be forewarned, should the enjo seller try to convince my tupperware seller that it’s a “great business opportunity”. I want to know what sort of questions I should be asking. Particularly questions that would show how stupid the enjo seller is (at least in regards to droobli).

      Something along the lines of:

      Q. “So, in one sentence, sum up what the business does… Like “e-bay is an auction site” or “amazon sells books online”.

      or

      Q. “How much research did you do on this?”

      or

      Q. “I’ve heard about this and I did a little bit of research myself. Did you know that the “inventor” of this scheme is Bobby Jensen and he has bankrupted more companies than I’ve had hot dinners. Did you know that?”

      or

      Q. “Do you know how many ACTUAL completed auctions there have been on the droobli portal in the US and Europe since their portals went online? Do you consider this a success?”

      or

      Q. “By using droobli’s own portal to refer traffic, aren’t you just competing with every other BA for a few crumbs? Isn’t the real money in recruiting other BAs?”

      or

      Q. “Are you aware of how “successful” the China launch was?”

      What I’m particularly after is a breakdown of why MLM schemes don’t work. Something along the lines of: “if there are 15 levels of a MLM already in existence, the 16th level would have to recruit more people than the population of the world.” I guess the killer question then would be… “Do you know how many people are between you and the top of the pyramid?”

      I suppose I could ask first “how many people have you successfully recruited?” and then “how many people did you have to give the pitch to, to get those recruits” so that I could say “So, only 1 in 10 people bought in… that means that the pyramid bottoms out at the Xth level. What level are you at again?” seeing as how the pyramid gets “narrower” the less people get sucked in.

      I suppose I could research this myself, but, maybe if it’s in one central place, other people googling droobli would also have pointed questions to ask.

      Cheers in advance.

      Tex.

3046. Comment by Hoyes333 | May 23rd, 2010

      Hey, Texbutt – MLMs don’t generally work because people hate being used by greedy acquaintances. You know the family member or friend who’s just discovered the greatest miracle drink or whatever and then they come over and pretend to be all concerned about you. It’s all about greed and MLM people don’t care who they use.

      I feel sorry for people who think MLMs are a great business idea. They then see people as “potentials”. No longer do they have friendships. Every person they meet they try to recruit. Their lives become a boring round of “talking up the product”. That’s no kind of life. MLMs should just leave others alone and do real work instead of annoying everyone.

3047. Comment by Eugene | May 23rd, 2010

      Re: MLMs and friends — I’m reminded of a quotation from Douglas Adams:

      “Why not tell your Friends?”

      “Because I want to keep them”

      I think that’s the entire MLM experience in a nutshell. Although I haven’t had a personal encounter with Droobli, it sounds a lot like when a former co-worker tried (unsuccessfully) to sell me on Amway fifteen years ago.

3048. Comment by Texarse | May 23rd, 2010

      I know what makes MLMs a scam, but what I want is droobli specific questions I can ask, preferably that slyly ridicule the whole droobli concept. (With references from the internet if at all possible.)

      But, thanks. And I loved the HHGTTG quote as well.

      I was mucking around with recruiting using Excel trying to see at what point the numbers became unsustainable.

      If you assume that each BA recruits two people and each recruit recruits two more (and so on) 19 levels later, the total number of recruits numbers 524,287.

      If you assume that you have to talk to 10 people to get 1 recruit (because only 1 person in 10 is stupid/greedy enough to fall for it), 5,242,870 will have been spoken to.

      At level 20, the figures are 1,048,575 and 10,485,750
      respectively. At this point, the number of people spoken to, is greater than the adult population of Australia (roughly 10,000,000).

      The figures get even worse if you assume that you need to talk to more people to find that 1 stupid/greedy person to recruit. If you assume that 19 out of 20 people aren’t interested (and you are still only recruiting 2 people per level), then the adult population of Australia is surpassed at level 16 (13,107,000 people have been spoken to).

      If you assume that you recruit 3 people out of 20, then the level at which the number of people spoken to is greater than the adult population of Australia is at level 11, where you have to speak to 17,714,600, which is almost the entire population of Australia.

      And this doesn’t take into account the not-so-unreasonable idea that people that you’ve spoken to who work out straight away that it’s a scam (or, in drooblidiot parlance “don’t *get* it”) will warn off your friends and co-workers long before you get a chance to suck them in yourself. You might have to speak to 40, 50 or 100 people to find that 1 person you can recruit (Levels 10, 10 & 9 respectively).

      Nor does it take into account anyone else recruiting in your community or workplace.

      Cold, hard, ugly numbers, I think.

      If you come in late to this, you might find yourself already facing a very steep, if not vertical, recruiting curve. That’s not to say you should get in early, you should not get in AT ALL!

      Texarse

3049. Comment by beavis | May 24th, 2010

      Droobli stock continues it’s downward trend closing today $.31 per share. Oh, my. . .

3050. Comment by David | May 24th, 2010

      hahaha awesome, the owner of this page is making heaps on the advertising because of Google rankings.
      p.s. I am making 150k a year with GroobLi
      Yep it’s definitely a scam and doesn’t pay it’s store owners, who else is earning that kind of money??
      p.p.s when amazon listed and started online trading it was also a HUGE scam, as was eBay. The same people that are posting crap here also posted the same crap about amazon and eBay being scams, they already have egg on their face..

3051. Comment by beavis | May 24th, 2010

      David,

      I fart in your general direction. . .

3052. Comment by George Formby | May 25th, 2010

      Leave Droobli alone. A lot of people criticized the Third Reich when it started off.

3053. Comment by Kore Svensen | May 25th, 2010

      I think David is the classic Drooblidiot – arrogant, a liar, ignorant, supercilious, gormless, uncaring etc. The $150k is a lie and can easily be proven.

      The silly ‘ha has’ are really just nervous laughter as he realizes what a stupid scheme he has become part of. No, David, only an idiot would think Droobli makes sense. Read back over this forum, You’ll find lots of reasons why Droobli is one bad, horrible thing – much like a boil that needs to be lanced.

      Keep paying 80 cents to check a price. It makes so much sense. Why don’t real stores have that? All the prices in Wal-mart, Coles, Woolworths, etc could be covered up and then it costs 80 cents to find out the price.

      Great idea! Shop the Droobli way! (only morons need apply)

3054. Comment by kees | May 25th, 2010

      … oooops…?

      Untill-recently-always-optimistic Droobli Sales Director John Cini today writes on his “Antipaper Financial Parachute” blog:

      http://antipaper.wordpress.com/2010/05/25/droobli-corp-first-quarter-2010-results-much-more-transparency/
      ————————
      “GroobLi Corp.: First Quarter 2010 Results & Much More Transparency”

      “Obviously I’ve been very quiet for the last month. That’s because I finally accepted this day was coming. Yesterday GroobLi released quite a devastating financial report”

      “Note: Unfortunately, I could not find any mention of the number of customers or business associates, nor did I see any data regarding the geographic breakdown of revenue or customers”

      “I encourage you to read the complete report and make your own decision about GroobLi’s future. I feel awful that it came to this. To those who have participated in this company and followed this blog, I apologize for this not turning out better”

      “I wish GroobLi well in resolving these issues. For that to happen, all I know is that it will take a tremendous amount of time and forgiveness”
      ————————

      Also, MEDG stock currently at 29 cents, way off its highs from last December.

      Not looking good… is it…?

3055. Comment by beavis | May 25th, 2010

      It was nice knowing you guys. Looks like it is time to fold the tents and move on. Anybody like to leave some final “fuck you”s to that genius Bobby Jensen?

3056. Comment by Bob | May 26th, 2010

      Bye guys, my last post…
      Thanks for all the hard work, entertainment, controversy, laughs, anger, curiosity, frustration, vindication, friendship, nemesis, white, black, pro, con, you name it!

      GroobLi pretty much sucks, always did.
      The truth was told, exposed, questioned, and debated about as thoroughly as could possibly be.

      I think if it was not for this blog, GroobLi would have lasted twice as long, there would have twice as many people who were taken advantage of because of misinformation, and greed.

      Bobby Jensen, Dean Mannhiemer, and whoever, ought to be locked up.

      Gene, Beavis, Eaglescout, Only Facts, Kees, Road Warrior, and everyone ~ Peace!

3057. Comment by Casper Werner | May 27th, 2010

      Bobby Jensen is a genius. He’s the only guy to make money from Droobli. He really thought ebay was going to make him an offer to buy out the Droobli “threat”. Hilarious. Bobby Jensen always makes money while others suffer. That’s his style.

3058. Comment by beavis | May 27th, 2010

      Casper Werner,

      Yes, I’m sure Bobby Jensen pulled a paycheck; but we can always hope he helped capitalize Droobli with his own money and/or credit. I guess we’ll all have to go to that Internet marketing genius, Jason Switzer, and find out what the next big idea is. Come on, Jason, tell us stories of huge profits to be made by joining one of your multi-level marketing teams (putz)

3059. Comment by JAKE | May 28th, 2010

      WHY ALL YOU NOT HAPPY IN LIFE, WILL STREET SAYS THAT GROOBLI WIL BE BIGGER THE GOOGLE IN 2YEARS

      New Search Engine in Shopping Mall
      Will search all the shops in the mall plus the GroobLi auction.
      Integrated with Auctions.
      Never been done before.
      This will make shopping in the mall so much simpler and easier.
      Many personalised features to enable shoppers to be notified on items of interest.

      Entertainment Section to be added.
      GroobLi.com will have two Sections :
      1. Shopping
      Express
      Unique Bid
      Shopping Mall

      2. Entertainment
      Music
      Movies
      Games
      E-books

      Initially Customers will be given a free period to try the entertainment options before having to use Credits to pay a subscription to use it.
      The Entertainment Section will be launched later in the year.
      (Customers will not only purchase credits from BAs to use at the Auctions but also to use for Entertainment. )
      who say DUBLE WILL NOT BE BIG…….

3060. Comment by JAKE | May 28th, 2010

      AND YES YES THEY SAY HE IS THE NEW Bill Gates,

      Welcome to MediocreNet Group Technologies
      MediocreNet Group Technologies is a publicly held Company (OTCBB: MEDG).The main emphasis of the company operations rests in our GroobLi.com, Droobli Network and BSP Reward divisions.

      GroobLi is a worldwide online trading firm. It is composed of two very unique and individual business models; GroobLi.com – a reverse auction portal for high level branded merchandise and GroobLi Network – the business opportunity where individuals around the world can establish their own business in a competitive market. The success behind GroobLi.com’s ‘reverse auction’ lies in the formula of being able to drive down prices incrementally with single bids placed by consumers until the price reaches a point where it becomes irresistible to the buyer and then it’s sold.

      BSP Rewards is an extremely affordable Private Branded “customer relationship marketing program” and “communications solution” that utilizes our proprietary loyalty and internet rewards mall platform and applications. The BSP Rewards Mall licenses our proprietary rewards online mall platform, and builds “merchant funded” private branded programs both for profit and non-profit organizations. Our program offers a large base of merchants that offer rewards to our client’s members and a unique platform that can be layered onto debit/credit cards.

3061. Comment by beavis | May 28th, 2010

      More ways for the Drooblidiot BA’s to use up their tokens they got with their $3,000 Gold Level membership. MediocreNet (AKA “Droobli”) is now bumping $.26 per share in it’s gradual decline to obscurity. What they need now is their own search engine so they can squash Google while they simultaneously take out eBay and Amazon.com with the auctions

      Has anybody noticed there has been no announcements of BA’s reaching the VP level required to get a lot at Droobliland? And what about the Bentley and matching Breitling watch? You’d think with the millions of customers they claim to have someone would have reached that level. Maybe they are waiting to announce the winners at the next “launch” (I understand the next launch will be personally attended by Bobby Jensen and Dean Mannheimer and it will be in a country that has no extradition agreements with the US, Germany or Australia).

3062. Comment by Bob "Open Fly" Phillips | May 28th, 2010

      Jake is a deluded moron.

3063. Comment by JAKE | May 29th, 2010

      IN THE NEXT 3 YEARS THERE WILL BE ABOUT 1,000,000 BA’S AND ABOUT 500.000.000 OR MORE CUSTOMERS. SO THERE GOT BE ALOT OF BA’S THE ARE SVP AND GET THE $1,000,000 US

3064. Comment by beavis | May 29th, 2010

      “Alot” is not a word, Jake.

3065. Comment by Eugene | May 31st, 2010

      Jake:

      In making projections like to one above, how do you deal with the fact that the vast majority of people have never heard of Droobli, and are unlikely ever to find out about it? (I’m ignoring the fact that most would probably not be interested even if they were aware of it — the fact that almost no one knows about it is a serious objection all by itself).

      The example of Amazon and eBay will be trotted out, as always. Although it was a long time before I dealt with either them personally, I had heard about both of these entities pretty early on – In the case of Amazon, within months of them starting business, and in the case of eBay, within two years. Even if you weren’t particularly interested in doing business with them, the average person with an online presence had at least heard of them, and had some idea of what kind of business they were in, due to online discussion and news coverage.

      By comparison, I found out about Droobli by a fluke about a year ago, when I stumbled over this website while looking for something else. I’ve never heard the slightest mention of Droobli anywhere that wasn’t ultimately derived from this website. I’ve never heard any kind of “buzz” or news coverage about Droobli anywhere else (as I had about Amazon and eBay pretty early on), and none of my work or personal acquaintences has ever heard about it.

      Just my $0.02

3066. Comment by Simon Dale | June 1st, 2010

      I’m glad a lot of people have not heard of Droobli. It means the opportunity is huge and unsaturated.
      That’s the BA’s job, to spread the word.
      Droobli is a business in progress, far to powerful an opportunity for the pea brains on this blog to comprehend.
      Australia does have VP’s and many Sales directors.

3067. Comment by beavis | June 1st, 2010

      Simon Dale,

      If you were twice as smart you’d still be stooopid.

3068. Comment by Only Facts | June 1st, 2010

      Simon Dale.

      Your right, we here in Australia do have many VP’s and sales directors. The problem is we have very, very few customers. I would be very interested is hearing why after everything that has been proven you would still defend Droobli?

3069. Comment by phil | June 1st, 2010

      It is interesting to note that the websites of the first few apologists for GroobLi (t.proia, gene, etc) are all down and unavailable. Where are they?

      And just putting this out there:

      http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:8Tgl4U7RGoIJ:antipaper.wordpress.com/2010/05/25/droobli-corp-first-quarter-2010-results-much-more-transparency/+http://antipaper.wordpress.com/2010/05/25/droobli-corp-first-quarter-2010-results-much-more-transparency/&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

      screencap for posterity:’

      http://imgur.com/WWPcH.jpg

3070. Comment by Simon Dale | June 2nd, 2010

      only facts – the point is it will take a long time for Droobli to obtain lot’s of customers, any business takes time.
      We are only at the beginning stage.
      Have you been in business before?
      Do you understand the challenges a new business has?
      Do you think it happens overnight?
      The world is full of great companies, but at one stage these companies were unheard of, who failed and failed, and then they became giants.
      Great companies are built by great people, people with vision and forsight – people who don’t give up.
      They don’t listen to naysayers and crtics, and they definately don’t worry too much about blogs like this.
      intelligent people understand when they do due diligence – blogs like this are never taken seriously – as they know the blogs motive is to create controversy so they can make money from google adsense.
      good luck

3071. Comment by beavis | June 2nd, 2010

      Simon Dale said:

      “the point is it will take a long time for Droobli to obtain lot’s of customers, any business takes time.”

      If that’s true and judging from the now public financials, it appears that time is not Droobli’s friend. I’d say you Drooblidiot Gold Level members have one more $3,000 renewal left and then you will have a 100% tax write off. Read the public statements, fool; it’s all there. In fact look at the stock decline since the last quarterly report was released. The stock (ticker symbol “MEDG”) is at 23 cents a share; pathetic.

3072. Comment by beavis | June 2nd, 2010

      “The Company is preparing to launch their global platform in June 2010. This platform will allow GroobLi.com to offer top of the line, brand name products to customers around the world. Towards the later end of 2010 the entertainment piece of the Group’s expansion will be launched with music as the first offering.”

      OK, we’ve two more launches to wait for with baited breath. The recent announcement of three new “executive” recruits has been met with a 10% decline in MediocreNet stock value (20.5 cents was the last trade as of this writing).

3073. Comment by Only Facts | June 2nd, 2010

      Simon Dale.

      Thanks for reply. So many times pro-Droobli people will come on this site say a few things then run away never to return. I would like to reply to post.

      You say;

      the point is it will take a long time for Droobli to obtain lot’s of customers, any business takes time.
      We are only at the beginning stage.

      While the first part of this statement is correct, the second is way off base. Droobli has been in business for 7 or 8 years now. More than enough time to secure their place in the market. Droobli also claims to be growing faster than eBay ever did. Obviously a lie.

      You say;

      Have you been in business before?

      Once or twice.

      You say;

      Do you understand the challenges a new business has?

      Very well, I deal with it most days. I am also aware of the signs to look for when determining the potential success or failure of a new business, and Droobli defiantly raises the red flag.

      You say;

      Do you think it happens overnight?

      Refer to first reply.

      You say;

      Great companies are built by great people, people with vision and forsight – people who don’t give up.

      Very true, and thats the point, Droobli is full of proven scammers. Bobby Jensen on more than one occasion has proven himself a liar and by their own admission have little or no experience in the financial market.

      You say;
      They don’t listen to naysayers and crtics, and they definately don’t worry too much about blogs like this.

      Very wrong. Droobli has a dedicated individual that monitors all anti-Droobli sites. In fact in their own risk analysis they discusses it.

      You say;
      intelligent people understand when they do due diligence – blogs like this are never taken seriously

      This is the problem Simon. People do not do appropriate due diligence. If they did they would not be regurgitating the same old excuses that have been shot down time and time again.

      Again Simon I would ask you after everything that has been proven why you would defend Droobli?

      Please don’t be another runner, stay a while and we all just may learn something.

3074. Comment by Simon Dale | June 2nd, 2010

      Only facts – Thank you for your reply – because you didn’t call me names and give insults like you do with other people – I will respond to what you are saying – and I will do this in a very unbiased fashion.
      Firstly, I am a Droobli BA – and I have been in business all my life. I don’t claim to know everyting, but I believe I am an astute business person.

      1)If you look at the Droobli time line – they formed in 2003 – but they were not operational until 2006. They started in Europe, then the US, then Australia NZ. So really the business has been operational for around 3 -4 years.

      2)Droobli started strong in Europe, and then it backed off, it then exploded in the US – and then it backed off, and the same happened in Australia. At the moment in Australia the business is quite slow, but I believe it will pick up again with the company announcing new innovations.

      As far as Droobli growing as fast as E bay – that’s really just a marketing pitch from Business associates,nothing wrong with believing in your business or product and promoting it – surely not?

      3)I have met Bobby Jensen, he is an incredible person and a true visionary.
      Bobby Jensen sold a group of restaurants and years later these restaurants went bankrupt – nothing to do with him.
      He also closed down the original Droobli Denmark – and re started the company.

      He is not a scammer – he is a very successful network marketer reaching the very top of his previous company – which is why he has used a hybrid system to kickstart Droobli.
      He has spent $1 billion on Droobli – not sure why anyone would spend this sort of money if they were scammers – not to mention the company being publically listed.

      Can i suggest you be very careful in slandering individuals on the internet – especially when it is not true.

      4)Of course Droobli would have people monitoring bad press, all companies have this. After all they have to protect their reputation.

      5)I don’t understand when you say ‘everything has been proven’? What’s been proven?
      Listen I don’t sit here for a minute and say Droobli is perfect – Droobli is a progressive company, they are still experimenting, working out what works and what doesn’t work.

      It amazed me that one of your bloggers stated they went bankrupt from Droobli? How?
      The most you invest is $3000 for a credit package as a Business associate – and then if you don’t build the business you can use the credits yourself – bankrupt now come on?

      The introduction of movies, games, and music is going to be huge – all of a sudden this opens up a whole new market.

      Now that i have been honest with you, tell me, what is your motive? Is this blog a revenue raiser thru google adsense, or do you have a gripe with Droobli? What’s this blog all about?

3075. Comment by Simon Dale | June 2nd, 2010

      Oh and by the way, as i write, a Droobli business associate is advertising on your site – under this post.
      You are allowing Droobli business associates to advertise on your site – and when someone clicks on that banner ad – you get paid by google.
      Now come ‘only facts’ if you really hated Droobli – why do you allow them to advertise on your site and then in turn you make money from them?

      Come on come clean.

3076. Comment by Bob | June 3rd, 2010

      OK,
      Sorry SD, I need to chime in here.
      I was with Droobli for quite some time, and know first hand pretty much everything. I was also a high income earner.

      The first problem is this; there is NO residual income. Never was. Ask the most successful person you can find, like perhaps a VP (I know many of them) they DO NOT have residual income.

      For goodness sakes, Tom Ashlock (10,500 BA’s in his downline) shows on webinars the amazing money he made before they took all the money away from everyone last April (RED flag).
      Why don’t they show what they are making now?

      Then he shows the customers, you look at the screenshot of his customers, and there is a few dollars a day! ALL of his money came from the signing up of BA’s.

      What you think is not true, that is the problem. You are being taken advantage of. You believe there was success in Europe, that was a lie, Success in the US, that was a lie, viral customer growth, that was a lie, etc. etc.

      The reason people join is all based on hype, lies, and greed.
      That means RED FLAG ~ ILLEGAL ~ HIDE YOUR WALLET

      It’s not worth spending any time on all of your other points, but I suggest you do a little research.

      Michael spent 1 billion on GroobLi? Come on bud.
      Look for an ethical business.
      There are plenty.

3077. Comment by Simon Dale | June 3rd, 2010

      Bob, see my reply’s below: Sorry SD, I need to chime in here.
      I was with Droobli for quite some time, and know first hand pretty much everything. I was also a high income earner.

      Bob, why jump ship so quickly?

      The first problem is this; there is NO residual income. Never was. Ask the most successful person you can find, like perhaps a VP (I know many of them) they DO NOT have residual income.

      Of course they don’t have residual income – they whole strategy of Droobli is to set up business associates – who will in time build a customer base. At the moment building a BA base is what Droobli want us do to do. You should know this if you were once a high earner.

      For goodness sakes, Tom Ashlock (10,500 BA’s in his downline) shows on webinars the amazing money he made before they took all the money away from everyone last April (RED flag).
      Why don’t they show what they are making now?

      Then he shows the customers, you look at the screenshot of his customers, and there is a few dollars a day! ALL of his money came from the signing up of BA’s.

      Answered above.

      What you think is not true, that is the problem. You are being taken advantage of. You believe there was success in Europe, that was a lie, Success in the US, that was a lie, viral customer growth, that was a lie, etc. etc.

      As i said in my post – Europe did slow down – that’s just normal business.

      The reason people join is all based on hype, lies, and greed.
      That means RED FLAG ~ ILLEGAL ~ HIDE YOUR WALLET

      Whats greedy about building a business?

      It’s not worth spending any time on all of your other points, but I suggest you do a little research.

      Don’t need to any more research – I have decided to build a business with Droobli. If you chose not to – that’s fine.

      Michael spent 1 billion on GroobLi? Come on bud.
      Look for an ethical business.
      There are plenty.

      Yes he has spent a Billion, do you think the infrastructure comes cheap Bob?

      Ethical – what’s unethical about building an online business?

      It took me 7 years to pay off my franchise coffee shop – $500,000 – working 24/7 and i didn’t see my family.
      What do you suggest Bob?

      Droobli $3000 maximum investment, no overheads – absolutely no risk.

      The problem with these blogs is they are the one’s who are stopping Droobli’s progress – by creating controversy – for their own greed – google adsense.

      Why doesn’t the blog just let people build their Droobli businesses – without all this spin doctoring – and let the future dictate what happens.

3078. Comment by Simon Dale | June 3rd, 2010

      GroobLi Shopping
      Join now and buy 10 credits and receive a $500 travel voucher!

      This is an ad above which I copy and pasted from this blog site.

      Yes that’s right – this site while bagging Droobli – are making money from Droobli.

      Understand every time a blogger comes onto this site – and they curiously click on the banner ads – google pay this blog a fee – it’s called google adsense.

      This blog is a strategic way to get people who are searching for Droobli online – to come to this site – so people click on their banner ads – and then they get paid.

      The more controversy they drum up, the more people click on their blog – and the more money they make.

      They are even making money from Droobli business associates, as it’s the associates who pay google for the advertising – and google then place the ads all over the internet – including this site.

      This is a tactic – this blog does not really care about Droobli’s success or failure – it’s all about making money.

      Even as I write – this banner ad appears below – http://www.droobli-buzz.com

      Take a look around the site – see for yourself.

      Disgrace.

      Watch the next post from this blogger – he will ridicule me – divert the attention away from what is really going on here.

      Goodbye – i have sent an email to google – with a complaint about the misuse of google adsense – believe me google hate these sites.

3079. Comment by beavis | June 3rd, 2010

      Simon Dale said:

      “Watch the next post from this blogger – he will ridicule me – divert the attention away from what is really going on here.”

      Stupid sheep. . .

3080. Comment by Only Facts | June 3rd, 2010

      Simon Dale.

      Please don’t leave just yet. The information you are supplying is standard Droobli doctrine, and has been posted, and proven to be incorrect here continually. This is not my site I was initially look for information on this company because it immediately sounded wrong.

      If you go to the top of this site, press ctrlF and type in only facts you can go directly to my posts. Hopefully you will find all the answers to your questions and proof of the lies you have been told. If that is not enough for you, do the same thing with Kees. Good luck. If you wish a refund from Droobli after your discovery, there are ways.

      Hope you will reply after you have researched. Please don’t be a Droobli run away.

3081. Comment by Simon Dale | June 3rd, 2010

      what do i have to research – a fraud site?
      This blog is a fraud.

      look another ad for Droobli – copy and pasted from this site:

      Droobli Australia Shopping

      Oh look another one:

      Get 10 Free GroobLi Credits

      Guilty, Guilty, Guilty.

      Hey, I will let my friend at Google decide if this blog stays up or not.

      and stop lying about this not being your blog

      and yes i am doing a runner – i thought this was a proper resourceful blog, until I realised – it’s just another anonymous blogger – cowardly preying on it’s victims.

3082. Comment by Only Facts | June 3rd, 2010

      I had a bit of hope for Simon, however he was just yet another Drooblidiot who’s research comprises of “Droobli said so”.

      Simon, and yes I know your reading this, if you would have bothered to read anything in this post you would have realised this is Eagle Scouts site. If you don’t like this anti Droobli site try one of the others, there are many. As you are here in Oz try Whirlpool, but then again they are probably “cowardly preying on it’s victims as well.” My god talk about the pot calling kettle black…… I’ll give you one more chance to prove Droobli is not a scam and full of deception, an easy one for you. IS GROOBLI GAMBLING? And if not how can you prove it?

3083. Comment by Simon Dale | June 4th, 2010

      this site is run by eaglescout – and my website is run by the Pope. Look give up on defending yourself – you are only embarrassing yourself.

      You had a bit of hope for me did you.
      I have had a good look at your site – and every assumption you make about Droobli is wrong.

      Droobli BA’s have come onto this site and have comprehensively given you the facts, but you just keep regurgitating the same old stuff. Why? Because you have an agenda against Droobli and you are making money from this site.

      No authorities have taken any action against Droobli about gambling.
      Because if they did, Droobli would not be operating – and guess what they are operating.

      What do you think – http://www.droobli.com is not real? Type it into your URL – that’s right they are still going from strength to strength.

      I need to go to the airport – anyhow I’ve made my point.
      Good luck in the future – enjoy your job as an anonymous blogger – what fun.

3084. Comment by Texarse | June 4th, 2010

      Jesus, the current crop of recruits are the stupidest so far! How can they not see that this is a scam? Building a BA base is the business? That’s a PYRAMID SCHEME, people!

      It hasn’t been a success anywhere in the world! Launch after launch in the same market, touting outstanding success in the previous market, ignoring the fact that it’s flopped in Europe, China, America and is in the process of flopping in Australia!

      Portals filled with off-brand, no-name shops.
      Auctions which number in the dozens, compared to the many thousands in e-bay, used only by disillusioned Drooblidiots trying to cash-out their useless credits.

      Where are all the original Drooblidiots who were defending it in this thread as far back as September ‘08? Their silence, deafening, their websites 404′d, their predictions of untold riches, unfulfilled.

      The reason that most governments haven’t gotten involved in shutting droobli down isn’t because it’s not gambling, or a scam. The real reason is more likely to be that not enough people have complained about getting stung yet. When they do realise it’s a scam, they are too embarrassed to say “I got ripped off” to the cops after believing in it sooooo much.

      Stupidity, greed, cognitive dissonance and the ability to lie to yourself are a powerful combination, but they cannot change reality…

      Hell, I wish I’d invested in google and amazon and ebay in the beginning. But, I didn’t, probably because I couldn’t see a good thing. But, my scam detector works pretty well. I can spot a bad thing from miles away.

      PS I don’t see ads here, I’m using firefox + adblock. Even if I were, I’d hardly click on a link advertising the very product that I’m ridiculing. So, no money from me from adsense.

3085. Comment by Steve Zammit | June 4th, 2010

      texarse – actually i believe Simon Dale.
      You people that run this site and post – are probably just the same person.

      You anti Droobli bloggers – keep crapping on about the same old rubbish day after day – always a smartarse comment to make.

      You’ve been proven wrong – and you can’t handle it.

      You and your whirlpool mates are all the same.
      Whirlpool bags out every company not just Droobli – once again all for their own gain.

      wow you blocked adsense – what a legend – would you like a red stamp or a blue stamp.

      One thing you don’t seem to get on this site,is Droobli is an up and coming company – they have only just started – it’s gonna take a while. Of course plenty have jumped ship, but the ones that stay will clean up.

      it doesn’t matter what us pro Droobli people say on this site – you are only going to shoot us down.

      Simon i don’t agree with you about this being a adsense money raiser – i believe this site has been formed by an opposition company or they have employed someone on their behalf to bash and ridicule Droobli – because they are so scared of them becoming big.

      People that come onto this blog – have a really good look around this site – and you will see the obvious – a bunch of lies from the owners of the blog about Droobli.

      If you want to check Droobli out – find out who the Droobli Sales directors are – the ones who are succeeding, the ones who are in touch with corporate and ask them the tough questions?

      Don’t take advice from people who either come on the site and call Droobli business owners ‘Droobli idiots’ or from the blog owners.

      Do you really think these people are great people when they call people idiots.

      Comn don’t take advice from these jokers.

3086. Comment by beavis | June 4th, 2010

      Only Facts,

      Obviously you are dealing with new recruits here that just parted with the initial buy-in. It’s hard to see the truth when you were just arse-raped for $3,000, but deep down they both know they didn’t do a bit of due diligence. They didn’t look at the corporate structure and see that the founders have positioned themselves with off-shore entities in places like Cyprus that can’t be reached by US or Australian courts; they did not look at the real, verifiable record of failure Droobli’s auction format has met in Europe, the US and Australia, not to mention the quietly forgotten China launch. Neither did they look at Droobli’s published financial reports that show that it doesn’t support anywhere close to the revenue that it would be required to have if Droobli was truly successful. Come renewal time, when Bobby Jensen and Company want another $3,000 to continue their “license to sell licenses”, they will start to understand. . . or not as they are pretty stupid.

      Message to the Dimwits,

      The Google Ad-Sense, if you knew anything, is a minor revenue generator for this site; not even enough to justify the time Eagle Scout has put into it. The ads are generated by Google; not this site. Did I also mention you were stupid?

3087. Comment by Texarse | June 4th, 2010

      >You anti Droobli bloggers – keep crapping on about the same old rubbish day after day – always a smartarse comment to make.

      And yet, no one from droobli actually bothers to address the issues raised by the doubters. How much money have you made? What is the business other than recruiting more BAs? and so on. In Australia, this is called “playing the man, not the ball”.

      > You’ve been proven wrong – and you can’t handle it.

      I think that applies only in reverse. I haven’t invested anything in it, other than a couple of hours reading this blog and a few minutes adding to it. If I’d invested lots of money that I could ill-afford to lose, I might not be able to see the wood for the trees.

      > You and your whirlpool mates are all the same.
      Whirlpool bags out every company not just Droobli – once again all for their own gain.

      Actually, I do have an account at Whirlpool. But, Whirlpool is a tech related site in Australia. They don’t “sell” anything. They don’t “make” anything. They don’t “compete” with anything. It’s a group of tech-savvy people who are interested in computers, computing and software. They have nothing to gain by promoting anything. And, if they rubbish droobli? Well, maybe there’s a link between common-sense and tech-savvy.

      > wow you blocked adsense – what a legend – would you like a red stamp or a blue stamp.

      No, I’ve blocked all ads, google or otherwise. And your sarcasm does you nothing.

3088. Comment by Texarse | June 4th, 2010

      > One thing you don’t seem to get on this site,is Droobli is an up and coming company – they have only just started – it’s gonna take a while. Of course plenty have jumped ship, but the ones that stay will clean up.

      It’s not an up and coming company. It’s been going since 2003! 7 years! And with nothing to show for it! Other than failed launch after re-launch. Plenty have jumped ship, because in that 7 years, they’ve got nothing to show for it either! The ones that stay… Well… I suspect the only thing that will be clean will be their wallets.

      > it doesn’t matter what us pro Droobli people say on this site – you are only going to shoot us down.

      It seems it doesn’t matter what anyone else says either, the droobli converts will ignore it. Read from the beginning. See the other droobli converts going on about the money they’ll make. Then see what happens to them. They fade away. Never to be heard from again. Why aren’t they in here, crowing about their millions? Linking to pictures of them in the Bahamas laying on piles of cash? Probably because they ended up with nothing, all their friends as angry as shit with them for continually and desperately pestering them with a “great business opportunity” and their downline constantly ringing them demanding their money back!

      > Simon i don’t agree with you about this being a adsense money raiser – i believe this site has been formed by an opposition company or they have employed someone on their behalf to bash and ridicule Droobli – because they are so scared of them becoming big.

      I don’t think ANYONE is scared of droobli becoming too big. And, I don’t think there is an opposition company to droobli, unless common-sense formed a company.

      > People that come onto this blog – have a really good look around this site – and you will see the obvious – a bunch of lies from the owners of the blog about Droobli.

      Yes. People who come into this blog, interested about droobli SHOULD read all the lies. Read them and then do a little bit of research. Ask the person who is trying to recruit you some hard questions, like “Hey, how successful WAS the China launch?”, “How many auctions does droobli have in a day?”, “How much money have you, yourself, made from this?” and, I think the kicker, “How much research did YOU do before you signed up?”. Then, make up your own minds. Due diligence.

3089. Comment by Texarse | June 4th, 2010

      Hmmm… I can’t seem to post anything at the moment.

3090. Comment by Texarse | June 4th, 2010

      > If you want to check Droobli out – find out who the Droobli Sales directors are – the ones who are succeeding, the ones who are in touch with corporate and ask them the tough questions?

      Yes, do that. Find out who they are. Then find out how easy it is to get in contact with them. Then try to find out how hard it is to get your money back from them. Then find out how hard it is to extradite them from where they are.

3091. Comment by Texarse | June 4th, 2010

      Why not ask the droobli converts who posted early in this thread how their business is going?

      Tony Proia “t.proia@gmail.com” “http://www.droobli411.blogspot.com” (one entry, not updated since November 2008)
      “http://www.wickedlowprices.info/” (parked at hosting site)
      “http://www.wickedlowprices.com/” (redirects to http://us.droobli.com/5041019)

3092. Comment by Texarse | June 4th, 2010

      Ron Saunders of Jupiter, FL “http://www.37minutes2freedom.com/” (404′d)

      Gene McNeally “mygogold@aol.com” “free@liveliberty.ws”
      “http://www.liveliberty.ws/dugold” (empty)
      “http://www.buyit4zero.com/” which links to “http://us.droobli.com/5986725″

3093. Comment by Texarse | June 4th, 2010

      Oscar “http://www.onlinewebrevolution.com/” (parked in a hosting site)

      Charlie Drayer “drayermaui@aol.com” (808) 264-7114

      Steve “http://www.mydrooblishop.com/” (redirects to http://us.droobli.com/5387716”

      > Don’t take advice from people who either come on the site and call Droobli business owners ‘Droobli idiots’ or from the blog owners.

      No, do your own research. Ask hard questions of the person trying to recruit you. Remember, if you sign on, someone may be asking YOU these questions.

      > Do you really think these people are great people when they call people idiots.

      That’s a good point. Name-calling achieves nothing. These people aren’t stupid or idiots. They just got greedy.

      > Comn don’t take advice from these jokers.

      No, that’s right. But, do your own research. Ask yourself questions like “If it sounds to good to be true, is it really worth the risk?” and “If it’s all a scam, could I look my friends and family in the face if I involved them and they lost money?”

3094. Comment by Steve Zammit | June 5th, 2010

      that’s funny the group of Droobli business owners i associate with are all making great money.

      It’s important to join a group in Droobli who:

      1) Know how to build it
      2)Are business savvy.

      Unfortunately a lot of people who join Droobli – have never been in business before or join for the wrong reasons, such as to get rich quick.

      Droobli is no different to any other business – you have to work hard and you have to have a system, and you have to think long term.

      Understand that Droobli’s goal is to become the biggest online shopping mall, the auctions were only put in place to aggregate customers – and then a proportion of those shoppers will go to the Droobli mall – where they don’t need credits.

      The reverse auctions will only be a very small part of the business in the future.

      Droobli started operations in 2006 – not 2003.

      This is an anti Droobli site – with an agenda, so to do any due diligence on this site is a waste of time.

      Seek the facts – not the lies about Droobli that are plastered all over this site.

3095. Comment by beavis | June 5th, 2010

      Texarse said:

      “I don’t think there is an opposition company to droobli”

      Wrong, wrong, wrong! You obviously missed my earlier posts about my “giant badger farm” concept (“Big badgers mean big profits and with my special Big Badger Growth Hormone, profits will soar”). http://www.wlra.us/wl/wlbadger.jpg

      Steve, buddy; you and I need to talk.

3096. Comment by Texarse | June 6th, 2010

      > that’s funny the group of Droobli business owners i associate with are all making great money.

      > It’s important to join a group in Droobli who:

      > 1) Know how to build it
      > 2)Are business savvy.

      > Unfortunately a lot of people who join Droobli – have never been in business before or join for the wrong reasons, such as to get rich quick.

      > Droobli is no different to any other business – you have to work hard and you have to have a system, and you have to think long term.

      Here’s me thinking the whole point (and one of the biggest attractions) of droobli was that anyone could do it, you could do it in your sleep and it made you lots of money. How wrong was I?

      Now it appears to make “great money” you have to be recruited by someone who knows how to build it, have had business experience and that you should have been in business before and that you won’t get rich quick.

      So… if someone is trying to recruit you, please, remember what Steve Zammit says about what it takes him and other droobli business owners to make “great money”. He should know, he’s not biased against droobli at all…

      I’ll take the liberty of paraphrasing Steve Zammit’s guide to making “great money” in droobli for you:

      1. It’s important to join an already successful group who know how to build the group and are business savvy.
      2. Have been in business before, because droobli is no different to any other business.
      3. Work hard.
      4. Have a system.
      5. Think long term.
      6. Don’t join if you want to get rich quick.

      If every single one of those apply to you, then you can make “great money” in droobli. If one or more doesn’t apply to you, then, I guess you won’t make “great money”. I assume the fewer criteria you meet the less money you’ll make. If none of those apply, I assume you’ll make no money. Maybe you should contact beavis, who is willing to help you fulfil your badger related dreams.

      Thanks Steve Zammit, your willingness to be truthful about what’s required to make “great money” does you credit. Unlike other droobli converts, who wouldn’t tell us anything, you have shone the light of knowledge in the darkness of ignorance.

      Now, potential recruits searching for information about droobli can come here and know immediately whether or not droobli is for them. You can expect back-slaps, kudos and huzzahs a-plenty from your group of droobli business owners and other people recruiting BAs, for now, only people who meet all of those criteria will join. The rest will slink, shame-facedly away, because they know that they will not make “great money”. Unlike Steve Zammit and his fellow business owner associates.

      Don’t listen to the lies spread here by the droobli-doubters, now, you can find out yourself, thanks to Steve Zammit! You won’t have to spend a single cent, go to a single seminar, buy expensive DVDs or anything to know that you won’t make “great money” in droobli.

      > Understand that Droobli’s goal is to become the biggest online shopping mall, the auctions were only put in place to aggregate customers – and then a proportion of those shoppers will go to the Droobli mall – where they don’t need credits.

      Well, how is the aggregation of those customers going? As at 1900 Central Australian Time on 6/6/2010, there were 174 active auctions at us.droobli.com.

      > The reverse auctions will only be a very small part of the business in the future.

      Well, if the auctions get any smaller, there’d be no business at all.

      > Droobli started operations in 2006 – not 2003.

      Okay. So, the end result of 4 years of global operations, we have, 174 active auctions.

      > This is an anti Droobli site – with an agenda, so to do any due diligence on this site is a waste of time.

      Not any more, thanks to your helpful criteria… remember the 6 steps to “great money” as outlined by Steve Zammit!

      > Seek the facts – not the lies about Droobli that are plastered all over this site.

      Yes, ignore the lies, damned-lies and statistics that are plastered here. Instead, focus on the (soon to be patented) “Six Step Guide To “Great Money”" from, Steve Zammit.

      Remember, Steve is already making “great money” in droobli, so, why should he lie? Everyone else here has an agenda, and so, will spit lies like a puff adder spits venom. Steve Zammit, and only Steve Zammit, tells the truth about how to make “great money” using droobli:

      1. It’s important to join an already successful group who know how to build the group and are business savvy.
      2. Have been in business before, because droobli is no different to any other business.
      3. Work hard.
      4. Have a system.
      5. Think long term.
      6. Don’t join if you want to get rich quick.

      Remember, you saw it here first, courtesy of Steve Zammit (helpfully paraphrased by me)!

3097. Comment by Texarse | June 6th, 2010

      Now, let’s take some real life scenarios and rigorously apply Steve Zammit’s “Six Criteria For Making ‘Great Money’ In Droobli” to show how it works!

      Do you fit any of the following examples?

      1) You’re a single mother, working two jobs, waitressing and cleaning, and finding it hard to make ends meet. You hate how you don’t spend enough time with your kids and you seem them growing away from you. You’d love to be able to work a job that would allow you to spend more time with your family. One day, a close friend of yours, tells you about droobli. It sounds too good to be true! However, you have never been in business before, because you’ve only ever worked in a series of dead-end, minimum wage jobs.

      You ask yourself, can I make “great money” in droobli?

      I’m sorry, but, according to Steve Zammit’s “Six Criteria For Making ‘Great Money’ In Droobli”, droobli isn’t for you, because you have never been in business before and droobli is no different to any other business. You should look elsewhere than droobli to fulfil your dreams.

      2) You’ve been recently laid off and money is tight. You want to work, and work hard, but, you are over 50 and in these uncertain economic times no one wants to emply you. You’re not frightened of hard work and would be willing to give anything a try. One day, a close friend of yours, tells you about droobli. It sounds too good to be true! However, your close friend is a bit of a ditz and he admits to you that his group isn’t that successful and none of them, including, himself, isn’t all that business savvy. He is struggling to build his group.

      You ask yourself, can I make “great money” in droobli?

      I’m sorry, but, according to Steve Zammit’s “Six Criteria For Making ‘Great Money’ In Droobli”, droobli isn’t for you, because it’s important to join an already successful group who know how to build the group and are business savvy. You should look elsewhere than droobli to fulfil your dreams.

      3) You’re a stay at home mom/mum and you spend your day looking after your children. But, as soon as the children go to school, you hope to re-join the work-force to contribute to the household income. One day, a close friend of yours, tells you about droobli. It sounds too good to be true! However, you don’t have a system and you don’t even know what a system is!

      You ask yourself, can I make “great money” in droobli?

      I’m sorry, but, according to Steve Zammit’s “Six Criteria For Making ‘Great Money’ In Droobli”, droobli isn’t for you, because you don’t have a system. You should look elsewhere than droobli to fulfil your dreams.

      4) You’re a retired businessman, who has a lot of experience in business. You have a lot of money already, due to smart investments. But, the stock market is volatile. One day, a fellow retiree, tells you about droobli. It sounds too good to be true! However, you’ve retired and you really don’t want to work hard, maybe an hour or two each day. You would rather spend your retirement fishing, visiting the grandchildren and touring the country. After all, you deserve it! But, you admit a little bit of extra money wouldn’t go astray.

      You ask yourself, can I make “great money” in droobli?

      I’m sorry, but, according to Steve Zammit’s “Six Criteria For Making ‘Great Money’ In Droobli”, droobli isn’t for you, because you have to work hard. You should look elsewhere than droobli to fulfil your dreams.

      5) You’re a home-owner. Well, you and the bank co-own the home and truth be told, the bank does a lot more of owning the home than you do. In fact, the bank is threatening foreclosure! However, you’ve managed to convince the bank that you need six months to get back on your feet. The bank, which would rather have you paying the loan than trying to sell your house in a depressed market, agrees. You’ve won a reprieve, but, things are desperate! One day, a close friend of yours, tells you about droobli. It sounds too good to be true! However, you need a lot of money and you need it fast!

      You ask yourself, can I make “great money” in droobli?

      I’m sorry, but, according to Steve Zammit’s “Six Criteria For Making ‘Great Money’ In Droobli”, droobli isn’t for you, because you just want to get rich quick. You should look elsewhere than droobli to fulfil your dreams.

      6) You’re a white-collar worker. Maybe you work for the government. You don’t make a lot of money, but you have job security, which in these chaotic times, means more to you than getting rich. But, you dream of going to Hawai’i with your family for a vacation. Money is tight and every time you save a little bit of money in your holiday fund, something goes wrong. The washing machine goes on the fritz and needs to be replaced. Or the car gets into an accident and needs expensive repairs. Or Junior needs braces and you don’t have dental. You can’t get ahead. You would like a short term second job, just so you can save up and take your family to Hawai’i. One day, a close friend of yours, tells you about droobli. It sounds too good to be true! However, you really only need to do it until you have enough for your dream vacation.

      You ask yourself, can I make “great money” in droobli?

      I’m sorry, but, according to Steve Zammit’s “Six Criteria For Making ‘Great Money’ In Droobli”, droobli isn’t for you, because you aren’t thinking long-term. You should look elsewhere than droobli to fulfil your dreams.

      Remember, this isn’t a droobli-doubter, or a cynic, or someone who is competing with droobli or someone who belongs to an anti-droobli site with an agenda who is saying this to scare you off of droobli.

      This is Steve Zammit himself saying it! Steve Zammit should know what it takes to make “great money” because he and the group of droobli business owners he associates with are all making “great money” with droobli.

      Steve Zammit has taken time from working hard, thinking long term, joining already successful groups and fortunately not-getting-rich-quickly, to share these insights with you! There’s no need to listen to BAs trying to recruit you, paying money for membership in one of three levels, watching expensive DVDs and attending expensive seminars to find out that you can’t make “great money” in droobli like Steve Zammit can! No, you can find out, for free, in the time it takes you to apply six criteria.

      1. It’s important to join an already successful group who know how to build the group and are business savvy.
      2. Have been in business before, because droobli is no different to any other business.
      3. Work hard.
      4. Have a system.
      5. Think long term.
      6. Don’t join if you want to get rich quick.

      Others, less fortunate than you, who didn’t get these pearls of wisdom straight from Steve Zammit himself, have spent many thousands and thousands of dollars, (or euros or yuan), wasted many hours trying to recruit BAs, watching DVDs and attending, ultimately pointless seminars only to find out that they just didn’t have what it takes to make “great money”.

      So, if you see yourself in any of the examples quoted above, or if you are approached by people who would fit in those examples with a “great business opportunity”, you should run away from droobli quickly, because you won’t make “great money”.

      Remember. Steve Zammit said it, not me!

3098. Comment by Steve Zammit | June 6th, 2010

      none of your rambling diatribe makes sense – just a pile crap basically.

      the reality is you need to be tough in direct selling, only 5 percent make decent money in this industry, thats why you need good support and a system.

      good bye i’ve gotto buy a cheap Ipod from Droobli.

3099. Comment by Texarse | June 6th, 2010

      Praise be to Steve Zammit!

      Steve Zammit has taken time out from his busy schedule of using up his droobli credits that cost him up to US$3,000-00 to reduce the price of an iPod by 25 US cents at a time by spending 80 US cents to see what the price of it is saving a massive -55 US cents with each click, to deliver yet more wisdom!

      Steve Zammit’s “Six Criteria For Making ‘Great Money’ In Droobli” is now 2 criteria better!

      Now, Steve Zammit’s “Eight Criteria For Making ‘Great Money’ In Droobli” is as follows:

      1. It’s important to join an already successful group who know how to build the group and are business savvy.
      2. Have been in business before, because droobli is no different to any other business.
      3. Work hard.
      4. Have good support and a system.
      5. Think long term.
      6. Don’t join if you want to get rich quick.
      7. Be tough in direct selling.
      8. Be one of the 5% to make “decent money”.

      At this rate, you won’t need to spend a cent to find out whether or not you can make “great money”, “decent money” or “no money at all” with droobli!

      Remember! Steve Zammit and his group of business associates have already applied these criteria to themselves and now make “great money” in droobli.

      If you meet all these criteria, you too can make “great money”! If you miss out by one criteria or more, you could end up being one of the 95% who don’t make “decent money”.

      Remember, I didn’t make these criteria up, they come from Steve Zammit himself! All I’ve done is paraphrase them so that anyone who is looking for information on whether droobli would work for them can easily test themselves and see whether they should run, screaming from droobli or sign up!

      If only e-bay, google and amazon had had these criteria when they were starting out… Who knows where YOU could’ve been right now?

      Steve Zammit, please let us see your droobli store, so that we may gaze at it in slack-jawed wonder… What’s the URL? Something like http://us.droobli.com/XXXXXXX?

      PS I’m not sure what Steve Zammit is talking about, when he mentions a “rambling diatribe”. I’m just paraphrasing his own comments and applying them to real-life situations, that a potential droobli recruit might find themselves in! If I’ve misquoted you, Steve Zammit, please, feel free to point out where you didn’t say the following in post 3094:

      “It’s important to join a group in Droobli who:

      1) Know how to build it
      2)Are business savvy.”

      Unfortunately a lot of people who join Droobli – have never been in business before or join for the wrong reasons, such as to get rich quick.

      Droobli is no different to any other business – you have to work hard and you have to have a system, and you have to think long term.”

      And in post 3098:

      “the reality is you need to be tough in direct selling, only 5 percent make decent money in this industry, thats why you need good support and a system.”

      So, if what you read was a “rambling diatribe – just a pile of crap”, where did I get the quotes from?

      PPS beavis, how would I get in contact with you away from this website… You have a truly wicked sense of humour.

      PPPS MEDG on the stock exchange:

      http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/dynamic_charting.aspx?selected=MEDG&symbol=MEDG&timeframe=max&charttype=line

      See the performance of the stock from 2004 to today. From a high of $1.50 to $.23. Jeez, I don’t remember e-bay, google and amazon tanking like that in 6 years. Losing over four fifths of the value in that time.

3100. Comment by beavis | June 6th, 2010

      Let me ask you, Steve Zammit, what are you going to do when the Giant Badgers come knocking on your front door? A little stock in my Giant Badger Farm would be a big help when they ask “who’s side are you on”.

      Look, you know the drill:

      1. Don’t bother me with stuff like “financials” or “supporting facts”; you and I both know it’s a great concept.

      2. The standard $3,000 buy-in applies with a renewal every year as we build the Giant Badger Army.

      3. The Giant Badger Army will be “launched” in phases just like we did in the successful Giant Badger Army European operation where we replaced most of the EU politicians with Giant Badgers (it was going well until that “Tony Blair” fiasco).

      4. By recruiting other Business Associates you will be eligible for your own DeLorean DMC-12; Executive Vice Presidents will get the same with a fully installed flux capacitor!

      5. Once I get your initial $3,000 you can buy your business cards with your now very impressive “Business Associate” title prominently emblazoned on the front so as to impress the others in your trailer park.

      6. And just as you’re accustomed to, your dollars that you invest will be promptly moved to an off shore banking haven so you know it will be safe.

      So, send me your money and you’ll be able to enslave the world with a Giant Badger Army while you sleep!

3101. Comment by beavis | June 6th, 2010

      Giant Badgers and ferrets building a transatlantic tunnel aside, it appears that Microsoft is discontinuing it’s Bing “cash back from shopping” service (kind of like the MediocreNet shopping malls but done better) due to lack of interest. Once again, Droobli thrusts itself into the financial void.

3102. Comment by Steve Zammit | June 6th, 2010

      more rambling diatribe – you have all lost it, you’ve all been proven wrong – and you’ve turned your blog into a sad sorry piece of insignificant junk.

      beavis can i have your personal details – because you are so funny – i would like to hang out with you.

      Maybe we could compare our stamp collections – or let’s think what else would people like texarse and beavis do – maybe start a blog and bag the world – what else – what else do anonymous blogging cowards do, not much really.

3103. Comment by DJ Jenkins | June 6th, 2010

      Steve Zammit and Tex are more of the big talking confidence tricksters who join Droobli and then proceed to “talk it up”. Your hot air of lies will will not be enough to prop up the lead balloon that is Droobli.

      Hey, you two. How are you going socially? I bet your acquaintances run when they see you guys coming. Notice I didn’t use the word “friends”? That’s because anyone who joins Droobli soon loses any friends they had. Droobli is social poison.

      Droobli is fast becoming the best way to clear a room. Just mention the word Droobli and watch people start running. People shouldn’t call out “fire”. Droobli is much more effective. I must pass that advice on to fire departments around the world.

      Being trapped by a drooblidiot and having to listen to his spiel is a fate worse than death. Can’t drooblidiots just go to some other planet and leave the world alone?

3104. Comment by beavis | June 7th, 2010

      Steve Zammit said:

      “what else do anonymous blogging cowards do”

      Well, let’s see, in the case of this blog we dig up facts about your lame ass MLM “opportunity” and spank your little sheep arses with them. Then we ridicule you for being so gullible. After that we point out how annoying you are for harassing your friends and relatives to join your failing organization. Some of us focus on your lack of ethics while I tend to focus more on your gross stupidity. Which reminds me; if you had read the facts posted here or even bothered to read the companies quarterly report with even a modicum of intelligence you would have realized you screwed up, but nooooo; instead you just keep on pushing forward with your fingers in your ears and your eyes tightly shut. Why don’t you do us all a favor and just go watch a webinar with your fellow Drooblidiots. You know the routine; form a circle and don’t quit until everybody has finished.

3105. Comment by Texarse | June 7th, 2010

      Errr… DJ Jenkins, you actually think I bought into this rubbish? I’m just pointing out the obvious dichotomy between the promises the droobli BAs spout when recruiting (“make money in your sleep, anyone can do it, riches beyond your wildest dreams”) and the (Freudian?) slip that Steve Zammit made about how you _won’t_ make money in your sleep, and _not_ anyone can do it and you _won’t_ get rich quick (if at all).

      He’s refreshingly honest, I’ll admit, but, I can imagine the droobli censors gnashing their teeth in dismay that a droobli BA is telling the truth on a site that is high up in searches for “droobli” and “scam”.

      So, when someone does come here who might have a spark of interest in droobli, hopefully, they’ll read this and the spark will be doused with the cold, hard reality, so helpfully supplied by Steve Zammit himself.

      You’ll notice that Steve hasn’t actually tried to rebut my claims. Instead he just calls it a rambling diatribe again. Which is odd, because all “Eight Criteria™” have come from his posts. Paraphrased, admittedly, but not distorted, or even taken out of context.

      As for anonymous blogging, well… This isn’t my blog, I’m responding to a thread. I don’t owe anyone anything. I’m not trying to sell anything or compete with anyone.

      Oh. en passant…

      Steve Zammit’s “Eight Criteria For Making ‘Great Money’ In Droobli” is as follows:

      1. It’s important to join an already successful group who know how to build the group and are business savvy.
      2. Have been in business before, because droobli is no different to any other business.
      3. Work hard.
      4. Have good support and a system.
      5. Think long term.
      6. Don’t join if you want to get rich quick.
      7. Be tough in direct selling.
      8. Be one of the 5% to make “decent money”.

3106. Comment by Steve Zammit | June 7th, 2010

      Mr Jenkins – my friends love Droobli, as they love being a customer for free, they all get a $500 resorts voucher, and they buy brand name products at discounted rates.

      Financials – why would I resad into comp

3107. Comment by Steve Zammit | June 7th, 2010

      whoops

      why would I read into company financials – it doesn’t make any difference to my business operations.

      Texarse, yes those 8 steps are correct – apart from step 2 – you can come into the business without being in business before, but it’s important if this is the case to make sure you are following business savvy leaders – for support.

      5% of people in this world own 95% of the wealth, therefore the direct sales industry is no different – that’s 6 figure earners I’m talking about.

      But the genius of Droobli is, it’s goal is to be a customer driven business, customers getting great bargains.

      This will take 2 – 5 years in Australia to reach this tipping point stage.

      Another % of BA’s will earn a small part time income – so Droobli does benefit a wide cross section of people.

      With the intoduction of entertainment – younger people will benefit by saving money on games and music which is normally very costly.

      Another thing you don’t understand is, most people who join Droobli as a business come in at the bronze level – $575.

      It’s a very affordable business model, particulary because of the economic down turn, people can’t afford to buy expensive franchises. I mean even a fish and chip costs $50,000 to $100,000.

      Why don’t you start a blog bagging fish and chip shops?

      I’m out of here, i really need to get off this blog, it’s such a drag.

      good luck in the future.

3108. Comment by beavis | June 7th, 2010

      Steve Zammit said:

      “why would I read into company financials – it doesn’t make any difference to my business operations.”

      Because you would see that there is not enough revenue to support Dbuli’s claims and the likelihood of success by you is ridiculously small. In fact, the quarterly reports show the adoption by the buying public of their service is so pathetic that a sane man would laugh at the idea of investing in this charade. The lion’s share of the revenue is derived from selling licenses to sell licenses (in other words, recruiting dumbass BA’s) as opposed to regular customers. Your company has lied about the number of BA’s, the number of customers, their capital contributions such as software development and especially their success in general. It’s all there but you still won’t look because it will burst your little bubble. This is why you are clearly not a businessman but why you are perfectly suited for Droobli – you’re a gullible sheep.

      “5% of people in this world own 95% of the wealth, therefore the direct sales industry is no different – that’s 6 figure earners I’m talking about.”

      The people that control 95% of the worlds wealth aren’t sales people; the two aren’t related. That is a stupid comment.

      “But the genius of Droobli is, it’s goal is to be a customer driven business, customers getting great bargains.”

      We’ve already covered the company financials that show that is not occurring. “Genius”? I don’t think so.

      “This will take 2 – 5 years in Australia to reach this tipping point stage.”

      The guy that doesn’t read company financials can now make predictions years into the future.

      “Another % of BA’s will earn a small part time income – so Droobli does benefit a wide cross section of people.”

      Except the vast majority of the BA’s don’t recover their investment, which, if you would read the quarterly reports, you would know.

      “With the intoduction of entertainment – younger people will benefit by saving money on games and music which is normally very costly.”

      No, they won’t, because hardly anyone knows about or cares about Droobli and Droobli has no viable plan to attract their business as their auctions suck and their mall is a yawner (which if you had read the company financials. . .never mind).

      “Another thing you don’t understand is, most people who join Droobli as a business come in at the bronze level – $575.

      It’s a very affordable business model, particulary because of the economic down turn, people can’t afford to buy expensive franchises. I mean even a fish and chip costs $50,000 to $100,000.”

      The difference is you have a reasonable shot at making money with a fish and chip operation. With Droobli you would be ahead if you were to throw your $575 – $3,000 out on the sidewalk and hope a needy person picked it up. At least you wouldn’t alienate your friends and relatives trying to recruit them.

      “Why don’t you start a blog bagging fish and chip shops?”

      Show me a fish and chip shop based on a bullshit MLM concept and I probably would.

      “I’m out of here, i really need to get off this blog, it’s such a drag.”

      Reality does suck, doesn’t it

3109. Comment by Only Facts | June 7th, 2010

      Steve Zammit, Simon Dale

      I would like to ask you a few questions.
      Exactly which points have we lied about?
      Please, please, please try to answer this one. Can you supply independent
      conformation of any claim made by Droobli? You see this is the point. We can,
      no pro-Droobli person has ever been able to.

      Also for yourself and Simon on the gambling issue. Droobli itself, through its Europe terms and conditions states clearly there is a “gaming element”. A couple of months ago one of the Directors of Droobli (not BA a real Director) resigned over this, and other, issues. Were you aware of that?
      Were you aware of the China cover-up?
      Were you aware that Droobli has been caught fabricating testimonials?
      Were you aware that John Cini and Jason Switser (spelling?), very pro and active Droobli participants for a very long time have publically expressed their
      disappointment?
      Were you aware the financials for Droobli are so bad?
      You are obviously not aware of when Droobli actually stated and maybe Kees will re-post the link.
      And finally, do you now agree that Droobli did in fact go bankrupt in Demark?

3110. Comment by beavis | June 7th, 2010

      Only facts,

      No, neither of them were aware; being aware is not their “thing”.

3111. Comment by Steve Zammit | June 7th, 2010

      I will answer your questions – but this is my last post – as I’m ashamed to be a part of it – I don’t see a lot of good people on this blog.

      1) Gambling. All states of the US have passed Droobli as not a gambling business. Why would Droobli even bother operating if they were not legal.Understand Droobli is an early stage online shopping mall, the reverse auction is the ‘hook’ to get people talking about and using Droobli. I’m sure company directors come and go – that’s normal.

      2)China didn’t work for the company initially. Look at history Amway was kicked out of China in the 90’s but now they are back and thriving. They are a hard lot to crack but they will be a great market in years to come as the chinese love shopping on the internet.

      3)Fabricating testimonies – all I look at is my immediate leaders, who are very successful in Droobli.

      4)John Cini – All I Iook at is my immediate leaders who are awesome people and great teachers. Droobli is still at the early adopter stage meaning – only a small proportion of people will see it for what it is and understand Droobli today.
      After our leaders came back from Boca Rotan at the Sales directors meeting – they were so excited – as they know where this business is heading.

      Once Droobli is mainstream – thats when the late majority of people will flock to Droobli – just like it happened to Facebook and Twitter.

      5)Once again financials for such a young company are irrelevant. Remember we are still at the early adopter stage.

      6)GroobLi’s original corporate entity, GroobLi Danmark
      ApS, was voluntarily liquidated 7 years ago and dissolved when the company acquired a
      German company and moved its headquarters from Denmark to Germany.

      One last thing. Professor Charles King – who i have met when i was involved in another company – teaches network marketing at the University of Illinois.
      He does not normally endorse companies, however after researching Droobli he approached the company to start the Droobli academy – that’s how impressed he was. The Droobli academy has been set up to train Droobli business associates – Droobli has taken responsibility for the their field – unlike all other direct sales companies who leave it up to the individual.

      So they are the facts, you have taken information and twisted it, to make Droobli look bad – because you have an agenda.

      You obviously don’t want Droobli to succeed – but what i will say is for $575 – it’s the most affordable and the best business opportunity in the world – and you will be proven wrong – that’s all the naysayers and skeptics on this blog.

      bye bye

3112. Comment by Steve Zammit | June 7th, 2010

      oh by the way, I love the big Droobli banner ad underneath this post.

      Thanks to this anti Droobli website – promoting Droobli.
      Doesn’t make sense does it?

3113. Comment by beavis | June 7th, 2010

      Wow, he can parrot webinars. . .

3114. Comment by beavis | June 7th, 2010

      Only Facts,

      Just don’t; I know what you are thinking and you’ll only meet with frustration. They cannot, will not answer any questions that the webinar doesn’t tell them to address. They will not look at the company financials; they will not explain how a $200 visa card gets bid down to $0; they will not acknowledge Droobli’s history of failure after failure (even though they claim success after success); they will ignore for months that they are not making any real money. I’d call them stupid sheep but sheep would feel insulted as even they aren’t this dense.

3115. Comment by Texarse | June 8th, 2010

      Steve Zammit said:

      > I will answer your questions – but this is my last post – as I’m ashamed to be a part of it – I don’t see a lot of good people on this blog.

      > 1) Gambling. All states of the US have passed Droobli as not a gambling business. Why would Droobli even bother operating if they were not legal.Understand Droobli is an early stage online shopping mall, the reverse auction is the ‘hook’ to get people talking about and using Droobli. I’m sure company directors come and go – that’s normal.

      You do understand what a reverse auction is, don’t you? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_auction. What droobli has got ain’t reverse anything. Is it gambling? I don’t know, but, if it wasn’t gambling, why would droobli have to get 50 states in the US to sign off on it?

      > 2)China didn’t work for the company initially. Look at history Amway was kicked out of China in the 90’s but now they are back and thriving. They are a hard lot to crack but they will be a great market in years to come as the chinese love shopping on the internet.

      Well, at least someone is conceding that a) There was a launch in China and b) it didn’t work. Doubtless, there will be another launch there for us to await with bated breath, building on the success (or in droobli-speak “explode”) of the European, US and the Australian launches.

      > 3)Fabricating testimonies – all I look at is my immediate leaders, who are very successful in Droobli.

      Who are they? And, who said they fabricated anything?

      > 4)John Cini – All I Iook at is my immediate leaders who are awesome people and great teachers. Droobli is still at the early adopter stage meaning – only a small proportion of people will see it for what it is and understand Droobli today.
      After our leaders came back from Boca Rotan at the Sales directors meeting – they were so excited – as they know where this business is heading.

      I went to a circus once and came home excited. But, everyone loves funny clowns, doing silly things.

      > Once Droobli is mainstream – thats when the late majority of people will flock to Droobli – just like it happened to Facebook and Twitter.

      Facebook and twitter are as big as they are because of viral marketing. Not through recruiting. They got huge because people joined, had fun, liked it and invited their friends to join them. The difference between droobli and facebook is that I didn’t have to pay membership fees to facebook. I didn’t sit down with a facebook Business Associate who told me that they had a great business opportunity and that facebook had exploded in Europe and the US and if I got in now, I could reap the rewards as an early adopter and so on and so on. Nor did I have to recruit more people to my downline to reap the rewards of facebook. Or buy expensive DVDs or go to “Boca Rotan [sic]“.

      There is no guarantee that droobli will go the way of any of the examples of internet success stories that are quoted by droobli. The search engine market is sewn up with google. ebay has the auction market sewn up. Amazon, admittedly has a lot of competitors, but, every store with a brick-and-mortar presence is migrating either partly or mostly to the internet. So, you’re not just competing with amazon, but every business in the world with a web-presence

      There might not be any prizes for second. But there are no prizes for third, fourth or last.

      5)Once again financials for such a young company are irrelevant. Remember we are still at the early adopter stage.

      It’s not really a “young” company any more, is it? Hasn’t it been going since 2003? Let’s have a look at the number of “auctions” that are supposed to be the “hook” to aggregate all these customers. At 9.30 pm Central Australian Time, us.droobli.com shows 174 active auctions. 174. Barely 3 figures. This, after “exploding” in Europe and 2,000,000 customers and so on.

      And, there are 31 auctions in Australia. This after the Australian launch on the 4th of April. And, before that, the Australian launch October, 2009. 31. If it weren’t so pathetic it’d be laughable.

      6)GroobLi’s original corporate entity, GroobLi Danmark
      ApS, was voluntarily liquidated 7 years ago and dissolved when the company acquired a
      German company and moved its headquarters from Denmark to Germany.

      This quote was directly lifted from here… “http://www.duba2z.com/pdfs/Response-to-Negative-Press.pdf” point 5 “GroobLi’s founder, Mike Jensen, has bankrupted four companies.” So, it would appear that the company has put out a (very unprofessional looking) spin document for BAs that might be challenged.

      > One last thing. Professor Charles King – who i have met when i was involved in another company – teaches network marketing at the University of Illinois.
      He does not normally endorse companies, however after researching Droobli he approached the company to start the Droobli academy – that’s how impressed he was. The Droobli academy has been set up to train Droobli business associates – Droobli has taken responsibility for the their field – unlike all other direct sales companies who leave it up to the individual.

      I wondered who this Professor was. google shows me that he exists, at least. But, I’m not sure he teaches “network marketing”. According to the UIC website, he’s “Professor of Managerial Studies”, which is a completely different (and, far more legitimate sounding) area of expertise. Network marketing has the same air of legitmacy as “Professor of card counting” or “Professor of picking lottery numbers”.

      What was the other company that you were involved in? Was it a MLM? Was it a pyramid scheme? Did you make money with it? Did you give it up? Why did you give it up? Was it because it didn’t turn out to be as successful at you were promised?

      If that was the case, if you couldn’t spot a scam the first time around, what makes you think that droobli will be any different?

      > So they are the facts, you have taken information and twisted it, to make Droobli look bad – because you have an agenda.

      I keep reading about this “agenda”. I imagine that it’s eagle_scout is making money off of adsense? I can’t imagine how many pennies he makes a month, no doubt he’ll be able to go to the movies. By himself.

      > You obviously don’t want Droobli to succeed – but what i will say is for $575 – it’s the most affordable and the best business opportunity in the world – and you will be proven wrong – that’s all the naysayers and skeptics on this blog.

      Come back, just before you have to renew your licence to sell licences to sell licences and tell us how it’s going.

      > bye bye

3116. Comment by Texarse | June 8th, 2010

      Seeing as how Steve Zammit has, yet again, blessed us with his wisdom, I’ve updated and polished the criteria to see if you can make “great money” in droobli.

      Steve Zammit’s “Ten Criteria For Making ‘Great Money’ In Droobli” are as follows:

      1. It’s important to join an already successful group who know how to build the group and are business savvy.
      2. You don’t have to have been in business before, in spite of the fact that droobli is no different to any other business, but, if this is the case, it is important to make sure you are following business savvy leaders.
      3. Work hard.
      4. Have good support and a system.
      5. Think long term.
      6. Don’t join if you want to get rich quick.
      7. Be tough in direct selling.
      8. Be one of the 5% to make “decent money”. In the Direct Sales Industry, 5% of the people own 95% of the wealth.
      9. Don’t read into company financials, it doesn’t make any difference.
      10. Be prepared to wait 2-5 years in Australia.

      I think I’ll editorialise a little bit here.

      Criteria 1 & 2 are somewhat contradictory. If you’ve never been in business before (which either does or doesn’t matter depending on which of Steve Zammit’s posts you read) you should join a group of business savvy people. But, how do you know? If you’ve been in business before you’d know if the group you were in were business savvy, but, it wouldn’t matter because you would be business savvy. If you had never been in business before, you couldn’t tell if the people you were with were business savvy. What if your immediate upline had been recruited by someone who wasn’t business savvy? And if their upline had been recruited by someone who wasn’t business savvy? And so on and so on.

      My thinking is if you were even the remotest bit business savvy, you’d give droobli the widest, possible berth.

      Working hard is usually a pretty safe bet for good returns, no matter what you’re doing.

      I added the “good support”, when Steve Zammit said, but, what is a system? How do you get one?

      And, thinking long term? The promotional stuff I’ve read about droobli on the net tends to suggest that once you’ve got things sorted, you can pretty much forget about it and let the money roll it. Except…

      You won’t get rich quick. Which is the one of the things that droobli promotes. Money coming in almost faster than you can count it. Apparently coming into droobli to “get rich quick” was “unfortunate”, according to Steve Zammit.

      I have no idea what being tough in direct selling means, but, it sounds funny, so it stays.

      Ahhhh… Now we move on to my favourite. It’s two quotes, but, they both mention 5%, so, let’s look at them closely. If, as Steve Zammit said “only 5 percent make decent money in this industry”, the flip-side to that is that 95% don’t. And then he says that “5% of people in the world own 95% of the wealth therefore the direct sales industry is no different”.

      I read that as 5% of people who join droobli will make money, the rest will get shafted. The reality is that those 5% are sitting at the top of the pyramid. Everyone else under them will get squat.

      Financial reports about the company, no matter how damning, aren’t important. Bad news can only make you feel sad and make you regret every buying into this scheme. Better that you ignore it, because if you start looking depressed and worried, the people you are trying to give the presentation for this “great business opportunity” will smell the anxiety on you be much harder to recruit… Denial isn’t just a river in Egypt. Ostrich, head, sand.

      And, in line with “thinking long term” and “not getting rich quick (if ever)” comes waiting 2-5 years if you are getting started in droobli in Australia.

      I wonder if all those people who started in Europe and America are still waiting?

3117. Comment by beavis | June 8th, 2010

      Has anybody noticed that Steve Zammit proclaims to know Droobli’s future performance yet he knows nothing of their history or even about their current financial position? The only thing the turkey claims knowledge about is how he is going to make money with this “genius” of a concept. Now, those of us that have frequenting this forum for over a year have seen the BA’s crash and burn on a regular basis yet this Droobli newbie, once again with no actual knowledge of Droobli’s operation other than what his upline feeds him, can tell us what it takes to be a success through Droobli. Since he doesn’t research facts than we can assume that his beliefs in Droobli are heavily grounded in faith. The fool just believes; he doesn’t know.

3118. Comment by Only Facts | June 8th, 2010

      Steve Zammit and all.

      I hope Steve hasn’t runaway; however it would not surprise me. For well over a year now I have watch Droobli come on this site make ridiculous statements with absolutely no supporting evidence then run away and try to scam the next person. I use the word scam for a very good reason. They use deception. By this I mean they either choose not to tell potential recruits the true facts, that have been proven to them by independent sources or Droobli itself, or they outright lie and say they have check the company out fully and it is genuine, when in reality all they have done is swallowed the Droobli doctrine hook line and sinker. If anybody truly undertook “Due Diligence” on this company they would not go near it.

      So for anyone truly wanting to know facts behind the Droobli lies, I will respond to Steve’s answers.

      Steve says;
      Gambling. All states of the US have passed Droobli as not a gambling business.
      This is an outright lie. Steve may be referring to the “Letter of Opinion” that is thrown around. It is just that, a “Letter of Opinion”. One that’s has been prepared by a law firm, paid by Droobli to come to that opinion. In fact if you read the document it is very easy to come to the opposite conclusion. If the US had passed Droobli as non gambling, where is the document? Where is the evidence? It does not exist. Again in fact, if you read through US terms and conditions it clearly states, that it is up to the business associate to make sure they abide by gaming and auction regulations in their own area. So it is simple people, ask the person trying to sign you up to SHOW ME THE PROOF.

      Steve says;
      I’m sure company directors come and go – that’s normal.
      Yes it is true, but if you look at the reasons why they left. The Director that left early in the year did so because 1. He had not been paid and 2. He had concerns the company had not done enough to ensure Droobli was not gamming.

      Steve says;
      China didn’t work for the company initially. Look at history Amway was kicked out of China in the 90’s but now they are back and thriving.
      The reason for Amyway failing and Droobli failing are vastly different. Read the following link.

      http://www.rickross.com/reference/amway/amway56.html

      Amway was already there when the crack down occurred. Droobli went in to a market where their business model was illegal. Smart move ha!

      Steve says;
      Fabricating testimonies – all I look at is my immediate leaders, who are very successful in Droobli.
      Oh dear………….so we won’t worry about the parent company lying, just your up line. Hmmmmmmmm. How do you think your up line was hooked, and how do you think you were hooked?

      Steve says;
      Once again financials for such a young company are irrelevant. Remember we are still at the early adopter stage.
      The financials give a very clear picture of where Droobli actually is. After their claims of 10’s of thousands of BA’s and millions of customers, the figures just don’t add up do they? And stop saying they are a young company. My goodness. Look even Droobli states they are at least 7 years old….not 2 not 3 but at least 7. Below is the link to Droobli success stories. Look at Walther Richter. It clearly states he joined in 2004. Now look at Jan Lewanowski. It says he joined 5 and a half years ago. That statement has been there since late 2008 when I first heard about Droobli. That would have to make it at least 2003.
      http://www.drooblinetwork.com/1-26/success_stories

      Steve says;
      GroobLi’s original corporate entity, GroobLi Denmark
      ApS, was voluntarily liquidated 7 years ago and dissolved when the company acquired a
      German company and moved its headquarters from Denmark to Germany.
      This is one of the biggest lies of all look at the link
      http://www.cvr.dk/Site/Forms/PublicService/DisplayCompany.aspx?cvrnr=28323611
      (N.B i had trouble accessing this link. If you do hunt around it’s easy to find).
      This is an official Danish document…..It clearly says BANKRAUPT, and nobody goes into voluntary bankruptcy so they can move.

      Steve says;
      One last thing. Professor Charles King – who i have met when i was involved in another company – teaches network marketing at the University of Illinois.
      He does not normally endorse companies, however after researching Droobli he approached the company to start the Droobli academy – that’s how impressed he was.

      Wrong. Mr King promotes a lot of MLM business. This is one of his web pages. Have a look through it. One of the companies he promotes is Monavie. This company has been in and out of court for years with their unethical business practices. Oprah even commented on her show she had no connection with it, as they were using her to promote their product with out her consent.
      http://www.netwkmarketing.com/

      This is just a small amount of proven lies. Now look at your up line. These are the people that told you these lies

3119. Comment by beavis | June 8th, 2010

      Here you go Steve; maybe this will help:

      Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work.
      – Thomas A. Edison

3120. Comment by Texarse | June 9th, 2010

      Well, I’ve polished up Steve Zammit’s criteria for making “great money” in droobli. See what you think…

      =======

      Steve Zammit’s “Ten Criteria For Making ‘Great Money’ In Droobli” are as follows:

      1. It’s important to join an already successful group who know how to build the group and are business savvy.
      2. Have been in business before, because droobli is no different to any other business.
      2. No, wait, you can come into droobli without having been in business before. Because droobli is no different to any other business. But make sure you follow business savvy people.
      3. Work hard.
      4. Have good support and a system.
      5. Think long term.
      6. Don’t join droobli if you want to get rich quick. If you do, this is unfortunate.
      7. Be tough in direct selling.
      8. Be one of the 5% to make “decent money”. 95% of people in droobli won’t own any wealth, just like in the real world. You’ll maybe only earn part time wealth.
      9. Don’t read into company financials. They won’t make any difference.
      10. If you are investing in droobli in Australia, be prepared to wait 2-5 years for droobli’s goals to be reached.

      =======

      There, I think that encapsulates and codifies Steve’s pearls of wisdom.

      If anyone is interested in droobli and they come here, they’ll be able to tell almost immediately whether or not droobli is for them, by applying those criteria for making “great money”, without actually having to find out the hard way. ie giving money to droobli and not getting anything in return.

      Of course, people who don’t fulfill all the criteria will say “Wait a minute, I don’t care what these so-called criteria say, I’m still going to make great money in droobli! Fuck you Texarse and, more importantly, fuck you, Steve Zammit!”

      Nice attitude! And good luck recruiting a downline with THAT sort of potty-mouth!

      But, remember, this is what Steve Zammit said about making “great money”. He is already making “great money” so, he should know. Remember, you are a fool if have money and give it to droobli if you don’t meet all 10 of these criteria.

      Put your recruiter to the test! Ask them “Do you have ‘business savvy?’” “Are you in it to get rich quick?” “Do you work hard?”

      What about their upline upline? Ask if they’ve thought long term? Are they not making any difference by reading company financials?

      And what about the upline above that? Have they been in business before? Did they join a group that knows how to grow the group and are business savvy?

      What about the very top level? Are they the 5% making “decent money”? If they are… What does that make everyone else? Are they just waiting for 2-5 years for droobli to reach its stated goals in Australia, not making “great money”?

      Potentially, you might have to join and re-join and re-join 5 times if that’s the case.

      These are important questions that you should be asking. Don’t just listen to me, listen to Steve Zammit! He’s met a genuine Professor of Network Marketing, who is so clever, that you’ve never heard of him!

      Hopefully, steve Zammit will return to show us the secret of how to buy iPods for nothing.

      This is a secret normally taught only to droobli BAs, just as they decide not to renew their $575-00 to $3,000-00 memberships and don’t want to be stuck with valueless “droobli points”.

      Stay tuned!

3121. Comment by one of the Weavers | June 9th, 2010

      Zammit is some piece of work. He’s the real deal as far as drooblidiots go. Not one of those damned drooblidiots has done anything decent in life. All they want to do is get something for nothing. I’m just so happy that it’s only drooblidiots losing their money in Droobli. They have no real customers. Only drooblidiots hoping to be part of some imagined future “cash stream” are in there throwing away 80 cent credits like they were dirt.

      that’s their masterful game plan. “Dump those credits and it will look like Droobli is popular” they are told by their upline.

      It’s a sad story but at least only drooblidiots are getting burned and that’s good for the decent people of the world. droobli people are the lowest form of scum on the planet.

3122. Comment by Maven 2010 | June 9th, 2010

      I agree with one or all of the Weavers. Droobli people are people with no conscience. I have a neighbor who’s all interested in “my finances”. Suddenly, after years of living close by. Now he wants to “help” me “make incredible money”. “You don’t have to do nothing” he tells me. “I can make you rich” he says. Then I find out it’s this two-bit MLM called Droobli. The more I checked into it the more i laughed. This stuff is funny. And people believe it!!! It’s hilarious how stupid and gullible people are.

      Anyway I told my neighbor to never speak to me again. Now that he’s one of those Droobli creeps I don’t want to know him.

      Droobli people – are they evil or just sick in the head?

      Stay away from me or you’ll be sorry.

3123. Comment by beavis | June 9th, 2010

      LAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNCCCCCCCCCCCCHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      BOCA RATON, FL — (MARKET WIRE) — 06/09/10 — GroobLi, a subsidiary of MediocreNet Group Technologies, Inc. (OTCBB: MEDG), today announced it will launch a global entertainment platform. The platform will provide customers around the globe with the opportunity to subscribe to a variety of entertainment and media accessories such as music, movies, audio books and more. GroobLi Entertainment’s subscription-based platform will allow users to access their entertainment library from any device in any given location or from a social networking site. This product offering is unique to the eCommerce, technology and multilevel marketing industries and will assist in positioning the organization as a leader in each.

      The first component of GroobLi Entertainment, music, is expected to launch at the end of 2010 with additional offerings rolling out over the course of the following year. Brack Jaskey, Chief Technology Officer, stated, “We are breaking new ground within the online shopping industry with GroobLi Entertainment. We are excited about this launch because it creates a new and innovative revenue stream for the Company and provides GroobLi customers with a tool that centralizes all of their online shopping needs.” All media content through GroobLi Entertainment will be licensed and will adhere to the applicable laws and regulations.

3124. Comment by Phil | June 9th, 2010

      I’m hoping Simon Dale is still around reading this, as I have a few things to bring up to him. I also apologize in advance that this will be a little long, but bear with me, I have a point.

      So, quoting one of his responses:

      “Firstly, I am a Droobli BA – and I have been in business all my life. I don’t claim to know everyting, but I believe I am an astute business person.”

      Ok, going forward I am going to work with this in perspective. I will assume for the rest of this reply that you are an astute business person.

      “1)If you look at the Droobli time line – they formed in 2003 – but they were not operational until 2006. They started in Europe, then the US, then Australia NZ. So really the business has been operational for around 3 -4 years.”

      Even more reason that it should have seen widespread success by now if the model was THAT good. 4 years is a couple of lifetimes in internet startup terms, esp. considering they formed and started operations during the boom years of tech.

      “2)Droobli started strong in Europe, and then it backed off, it then exploded in the US – and then it backed off, and the same happened in Australia. At the moment in Australia the business is quite slow, but I believe it will pick up again with the company announcing new innovations.”

      Can you or anybody explain why they backed off? That goes against every business principle I know of. When you’re doing well, STICK IT OUT, RIDE THE WAVE, FIND WAYS TO EXPAND PROPERLY. It leaves me wondering why they would ditch ’strong’ and ‘exploding’ markets.

      “As far as Droobli growing as fast as E bay – that’s really just a marketing pitch from Business associates,nothing wrong with believing in your business or product and promoting it – surely not?”

      Because at this point it is an easy thing to pull something out of thin air and compare yourself to a company with a $30B market cap, but on what grounds? There is nothing wrong with believing in your product if it truly delivered or has a proven track record for delivering to its customers/users, NOT its salesmen.

      “3)I have met Bobby Jensen, he is an incredible person and a true visionary.
      Bobby Jensen sold a group of restaurants and years later these restaurants went bankrupt – nothing to do with him. He also closed down the original Droobli Denmark – and re started the company.

      He is not a scammer – he is a very successful network marketer reaching the very top of his previous company – which is why he has used a hybrid system to kickstart Droobli.
      He has spent $1 billion on Droobli – not sure why anyone would spend this sort of money if they were scammers – not to mention the company being publically listed.

      Can i suggest you be very careful in slandering individuals on the internet – especially when it is not true.”

      Question 1: Hybrid system of what, network marketing? MLM?
      Question 2: He has spent a billion dollars on Droobli? Really? Is this documented?

      Do you have any idea what kind of marketing and technological advancements ONE BILLION DOLLARS can buy? At the very least more than the 34,000 hits that droobli.com has now. (Some blogs, actually a lot of blogs, get more than that.)

      http://siteanalytics.compete.com/droobli.com+ebay.com/

      Hell, just for shits and giggles:

      http://siteanalytics.compete.com/droobli.com+perezhilton.com/

      You should also at least have some hard assets to show for it, right? Any business worth its management team who had blown a billion dollars would have office buildings, a corporate structure, community relations, a corporate CULTURE, and of course server farms to handle the user load of a company who would compete with Ebay (Surely you’ve heard of Google’s fabled server farms – http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2006/08/07/8382587/index.htm)

      Just to provide some perspective:

      The hundred million/billion dollar internet companies now existing (Ebay, Google, Amazon, Youtube, Facebook, Flickr, etc.) started on shoestrings. What led to their success was widespread adoption and acceptance within a certain amoount of time. And they did it without spending a billion dollars, or even a miniscule fraction of that.

      You say you are an astute business person, right? That would mean you’d have done your homework and tried to figure out how internet startups become successful. You would then know that it takes users, not salespeople (what you are) to propel an internet company to profitability and success, and not just users, but a remarkable (some would argue it would have be phenomenal) rate of growth. For example, even Facebook, with its half billion USERS only started seeing profitability late last year, when they hit 300M users. Let me spell that out for you, THREE HUNDRED MILLION USERS.

      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/facebook-heads-towards-profit-1788430.html

      Since you say that Droobli became operational in 2006, lets do a quick comparo to Ebay then, which you’ve said is ok to do. Ebay was started in 1995, by 2007 they had hosted TWO MILLION auctions. (wikipedia)

      It’s now been 4 years for you. What are your numbers?

      I know that when people throw big numbers at you, flash success stories, mansions, cars, and islands that it’s easy to get caught up in the hype. Take a look at the most successful companies online and try to find one of their CEO’s needing to roll up in a Rolls Royce just to get people to sell their product or service. You won’t. YOu know why?

      It’s because their product or service is so good that it sells itself.

      If GroobLi was as good as the claims being spouted here by the pro-drooblis was, you all wouldn’t need to be touting the money you’re making, or potentially making, you all won’t need an elaborate network marketing system to sell it: IT WOULD SELL ITSELF. That’s what a successful online business is built on, ITS USERS. Its users provide the value, its users create the value. What you’re attempting to sell here is no different from the products that MLM companies sell: Overpriced items or services whose value you need to hype up with mostly fabricated stories to convince people to buy, yet without the glitzy presentation wouldn’t have any legs to stand on. They are overpriced to hell because of the layers of commissions that need to be paid out. Which by the way, should tell you something. If there were no commissions to pay out, what are each of your BA accounts worth?

      So all you really have to show for all this is an incrementally growing network of people who are happily fleecing their friends, neighbors, and relatives for a promise of something ‘big’.

      It’s all just a traditional MLM scheme with a twist, oh sorry, ‘network marketing’ scheme: Hype up a product, sell for a large amount of money to cover commissions, get the people you sold it to to rinse and repeat. Just be honest and call it what it is, at least you’ll get the good network marketers in the fold, right?

      4)Of course Droobli would have people monitoring bad press, all companies have this. After all they have to protect their reputation.

      I sure hope $1B spent on GroobLi would have some sort of social media monitoring team.

      “5)I don’t understand when you say ‘everything has been proven’? What’s been proven?
      Listen I don’t sit here for a minute and say Droobli is perfect – Droobli is a progressive company, they are still experimenting, working out what works and what doesn’t work.”

      Let me reiterate. If you’ve spent ONE BILLION frikkin dollars, you’d better have had something to show for it. It had better be pretty damn close to perfect, esp. with the promises being made here. You’d better not be experimenting with a revenue model at this point! Any executive at any other company who’d blown ONE BILLION DOLLARS for a measly 34,000 hits monthly (and how many users again?) would have been fired and TOTALLY blacklisted from working at corporation.

      “The introduction of movies, games, and music is going to be huge – all of a sudden this opens up a whole new market.”

      I hate to be a naysayer, but you’d have to provide better model than a reverse auction to beat the existing players here. Bottom-line, you can’t beat iTunes, Netflix, and Amazon at this game. Your “whole new market” is already densely populated by much more competent companies. YOu’re not introducing anything new, just an alternative form of discounting (if that even works, and so far nobody has been able to convincingly prove it). Droobli.com isn’t even properly SEO optimized, the website doesn’t have a user friendly interface website (once again, $1B should have bought you a lot of UX testing, A/B testing, etc. Look it up.).

      To be frank, I could have had this same exact site built for $20,000. Hell, I could probably have it done for half that. I could have had it SEO optimized for a few more bucks and I’ll guarantee you that I’d have a LOT more than 34,000 hits a month.

      Just to illustrate my point, if GroobLi was as groundbreaking and awesome as they say it is, it should have generated enough interest in 3 different contintents to rank pretty high on google, right? I’m going to take the first 4 keywords in Droobli’s metatags and plug them into google. That should pretty much guarantee that droobli would come up on the first page at least, right?

      Go ahead, do it yourself: “free bids, iPhone, iPod Touch.”

      Well, I’m on the 10th results page and still no sign of Droobli. Remember, this is a company with ONE BILLION DOLLARS INVESTED.

      “Now that i have been honest with you, tell me, what is your motive? Is this blog a revenue raiser thru google adsense, or do you have a gripe with Droobli? What’s this blog all about?”

      It is quite obvious to everyone without a stake in Droobli that the guy who wrote this entry only meant to educate people about a potential scam. His google adsense revenue from this won’t be enough to pay for his server costs, that’s why it’s so laughable everytime someone brings this up.

      So to conclude. Lets be realistic here. Wherever Droobli went, it had failed. Lets be honest about that, unless your parameters for success and the very definition of it does not jive with the real world. The US is a 300 million strong market. Why leave it for OZ which has 20 million people? If you really think about it, you’ll know the reason why. I’m not trying to badmouth anyone, but lets look past the platitudes and the promises and look at hard numbers and hard facts. Consult the right people, those who are experts in the field you’re getting yourself into. Otherwise, accept the fact that you’re all buying into another elaborate network marketing scheme and droobli is merely the snakeoil. At least you’ll be honest with yourself. A few guys above had had to find out the hard way.

3125. Comment by phil | June 11th, 2010

      Is there any reason why my comment was deleted?

3126. Comment by Jay | June 12th, 2010

      The criteria for joining droobli?

      1. Be lazy. Don’t do any due diligence.
      2. Be greedy. Expect to receive large cash from everyone you talk to.
      3. Be stupid. Believe that everyone else will be as lazy and greedy as you are.

      It’s bad enough that the BAs have lost their $3000 investment but to inflict it on their friends and relatives is just very sad.

3127. Comment by beavis | June 12th, 2010

      Jay,

      I believe number 3 should be:

      “Be stupid. Believe that everyone in your down line will do the real work for you and they’ll never quit.”

3128. Comment by Jay | June 12th, 2010

      Sure, that sounds good. There should be another one:

      4. Have $3000 you never want to see again.

3129. Comment by beavis | June 13th, 2010

      And, of course, numero (drum roll) :

      5. Be gullible enough to renew for a another $3,000 after 12 months of not making dog feces.

3130. Comment by Texarse | June 13th, 2010

      6. Be prepared to ignore people that tell you droobli is full of fail and ripoff. They have an agenda. They don’t “get it”.

3131. Comment by Hmmm | June 13th, 2010

      in response to kee/klee?

      Customer no: is different to BA no:

3132. Comment by beavis | June 13th, 2010

      Stock tranactions by Droobli CFO, Alfredo Fernandez (I hope this posts cleanly)

      “Transactions (All Holdings)
      Date Shares Stock Transactions
      05/28/2010 5,000 MEDG Open Market Sale
      proceeds of $1,400.00
      05/27/2010 35,000 MEDG Open Market Sale
      proceeds of $9,800.00
      05/26/2010 25,000 MEDG Open Market Sale
      proceeds of $7,250.00
      03/31/2010 35,000 MEDG Open Market Sale
      proceeds of $14,000.00
      03/30/2010 40,000 MEDG Open Market Sale
      proceeds of $16,800.00
      03/25/2010 10,000 MEDG Open Market Sale
      proceeds of $4,700.00
      09/26/2008 25,000 MEDG Award of Stock
      *** Undefined Type ***
      09/18/2007 75,000 MEDG Not Supplied
      *** Undefined Type ***
      02/28/2008 50,000 MEDG Award of Stock
      *** Undefined Type ***

3133. Comment by beavis | June 14th, 2010

      Martin Berns, MediocreNet Director and CEO of the BSP division resigned on June 1st due to “personal reasons”. Bobby Jensen is the new CEO of BSP Rewards. Another rat abandons the sinking ship

3134. Comment by Bob "Open Fly" Phillips | June 15th, 2010

      I can’t understand anyone selling Droobli shares. I thought the whole point of Droobli was to pretend to be a real threat to ebay so that ebay would buy it out and the executives would make a great profit.

      No one believes the idea that Droobli is a real company selling real products, do they? That’s just a front isn’t it?

3135. Comment by beavis | June 15th, 2010

      Hold on to your seats! Droobli is shooting for the stars with another , you guessed it, LLLLLLLLAAAAAAUUUUUUNNNNNNNCCCCCCHHHHHHH!!!!!!

      “BOCA RATON, FL–(Marketwire – 06/15/10) – MediocreNet Group Technologies, Inc. (OTC.BB:MEDG – News) today announced the Company’s plan to launch a worldwide auction platform. Through its wholly-owned subsidiary, GroobLi.com, the Company’s global platform will allow customers around the world to vie for top brand items. This platform, along with an Australian platform, will be launched at the end of June. By the end of June 2010, GroobLi.com will host a total of four auction platforms to serve customers in North America, Europe, Australia and the remaining parts of the world. Bobby Jensen, Founder of GroobLi and President and CEO MediocreNet Group, stated, “The global platform offers GroobLi.com the ability to capitalize on the world’s time zones, enabling us to sell more products. In addition, this platform allows customers to participate in the auction alongside customers on the other side of the world.”

      The four auction platforms will each interact with and impact the other as customers around the world will have the opportunity to contend for high end merchandise as well as unusual items and travel adventures. Mr. Jensen continued, “We are raising the expectations of customers by the items offered across our four platforms; where other companies will have to follow our lead in order to stay competitive.” Combined, these platforms are going to showcase an impressive inventory of a variety of auction items.”

      Now the people in distant lands will have the same opportunity as those in Europe, the US and Australia to not use the Droobli auction network. BA bidders aside, this could push Droobli up to over 10 bona fide customers! Hooray!

3136. Comment by eaglescout | June 15th, 2010

      Thanks for all that information beavis. It looks like the merger was all a charade to make Droobli over and give it an air of legitimacy.

3137. Comment by beavis | June 15th, 2010

      eaglescout,

      Droobli is all about fun! Fun watching the stock decline; fun being underwhelmed by the financial reports; fun seeing the officers and directors jump ship. The most fun is reading Bobby Jensen’s spin on all of these developments (like the loss of Martin Berns). I’m liking this public company aspect of Droobli; the truth eventually oozes out and it really trounces the Drooblidiot webinar disinformation. “Brilliant concept” my ass

3138. Comment by Shiny Things | June 16th, 2010

      The drooblidiots deserve all they get. They are just greedy losers who’ll do anything for a buck. All of them can’t hold down real jobs so they dream dreams of getting rich quick. Getting rich by doing nothing. Earn millions while you sleep they say.

      They are a rather pathetic group. But they’ve asked for it. I hope Droobli fails completely soon so the drooblidiots can go crawl back under the rocks they emerged from. Idiots, swindlers, cheats, lazy morons. We don’t want them living near us.

3139. Comment by Paul Reynaldson | June 16th, 2010

      What is it about Droobli that either attracts you or makes you run rapidly in the other direction? I’m doing research for a management group out of West Heyland.

3140. Comment by beavis | June 16th, 2010

      Paul Reynaldson,

      Why would you bother with Droobli? Seriously; why? There are successful MLM’s that sell their snake oil; why pick this floundering mess? The promise of money and herd instinct permeates them all. As far as what makes people “run rapidly in the other direction” I think the terms “pyramid scheme” and “non-sustainable business model” say it all.

3141. Comment by Keesje | June 17th, 2010

      @beavis, are are you high on my weed again? You still owe me butthead!

      @Paul, the bling, the Business Associates with their smooth talking, the videos, the financial crisis, are all things that can make it attractive to join. And sites like this and comments like http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1278895&p=98#r1942 even though that comment is not real will help change your mind quickly.

      It’s a bit like that annoying call just around the time you’re having supper, well at least we have those in The Netherlands. And when you join you have a sponsor, but some of the sponsors are like plumbers in The Netherlands, they might come around to help you between 9AM and 5PM, and then never show up.

3142. Comment by Texarse | June 18th, 2010

      Whilst you’re at http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1278895&p=98, have a read of the experience of one droobli BA, Iwasduped.

      I’ll cut and paste it here, for any Australians who might be considering droobli…

      ====

      “Hell, Im really feeling bad,bad,bad!
      Joined up as a BA in May and including the enrollment and a silver package, I invested about $1800 of my very hard earned money. I work 60+ hours pw in my own business (legit) and of course, I was sucked by all the glitz and smooth slick vidoes and webinars that Droobli offer with the gaurantee of a passive viral income that will change my life. Yeah, sure I was aware that I would have to work at it and I have……hours and hours of learning and nothing, nada, zip, niente!

      Poor me – nope, its my own stupid fault but I feel so very bad for a good friend that I also duped by getting him to join up as a BA. He is a single dad of 3 small kids and like me was looking for a supplement to his normal income to support his kids. Hell…………..I am so sorry for telling him about Droobli and repeating some of the spin they use to get him to also join up. I am making it a focus to save his purchase amount ($1800) and give it back to him.

      I smelt a rat about 2 weeks ago when I also convinced my son to at least become a customer and pay $8USD ($9.60AUD) and receive a $500USD resort voucher. Well its just about useless. For the excercise we both sat there one day and tried a multitide of hotels worldwide with a multitude of dates and we got the same old reply – this property does not fit your criteria! Too sad, too bad! The ones that were available had a minumum of 7 nights and the price difference was at least $1000 including the voucher. I compared these with wotif and lastminute and could get the same hotels for a fraction of the price.

      Another rat – (well there are now many running around) – I used 70 credits making unique bids for an IPad – sure I had lots of unique bids but not the lowest HUH?????? how come someone high up in the Australian pyramid ended up with it for a price higher than all my bids even though mine were all unique but not the lowest???????????????? damn!

      In any case, when the more I look at the site, the more I see that there really is nothing on offer – who wants an Ipod nano these days? or a Loius Vitton scarf or an Apple mouse or keyboard or the item that takes the cake is a water bottle ($21 retail).

      We have not heard a word from our upline since paying out even though we have both left emails and messages. Too bad huh!”

      ====

      Does this BA’s experience tally up with what the person who is trying to recruit you is saying?

      At least she (it turns out Iwasduped is a she) realises droobli is a scam and her biggest regret is “getting a friend involved” but she’s resolving to save up and give his money back…

3143. Comment by beavis | June 18th, 2010

      “Another rat – (well there are now many running around) – I used 70 credits making unique bids for an IPad – sure I had lots of unique bids but not the lowest HUH?????? how come someone high up in the Australian pyramid ended up with it for a price higher than all my bids even though mine were all unique but not the lowest???????????????? damn!”

      Anyone who has this happen should file a criminal complaint. A small claims civil action would be interesting to watch, too.

3144. Comment by kees | June 19th, 2010

      Just for the record:

      Comment 3139 by “Keesje | June 17th, 2010″

      was not written by me (known as “kees” here, and as “keesje” on forums.whirlpool.net.au).

      But thanks, “Keesje”, for your contribution & for linking to my blog

3145. Comment by kees | June 19th, 2010

      Btw: latest “Compete” Unique Visitor numbers (for May 2010) not looking good:
      screenshot:
      http://i45.tinypic.com/zinbdu.jpg

      us.droobli.com: 16,000 unique visitors
      eu.droobli.com: 2,606 unique visitors

      That means less than 19,000 unique monthly visitors for Droobli-worldwide, while 1 year ago they still had more than 40,000 unique visitors.

      And 1 month ago the numbers were:
      us.droobli.com: 28,470 unique visitors
      eu.droobli.com: 4,178 unique visitors

3146. Comment by beavis | June 19th, 2010

      Let’s start a pool; which MediocreNet corporate officer or director will be the next to jump ship. I pick Alfredo Fernandez as he has been dumping stock.

3147. Comment by kees | June 19th, 2010

      Yes Beavis, I guess that would be a good pick.
      In the past few months Alfredo Fernandez sold 150,000 of his MEDG shares and got less than $55,000 for them … not even enough to enjoy a nice early retirement…

      And here’s another interesting screenshot from the “Compete siteanalytics” site:
      http://i46.tinypic.com/flcbuq.jpg

      Unique monthly visitors for a few other, younger-than-Droobli, “fun shopping/auction” sites:

      bidcactus.com: May 2010
      monthly change +22.82%
      yearly change: +487.39%

      quibids.com: May 2010
      monthly change +25.20%
      yearly change: +41,862.57%

      bigdeal.com: May 2010
      monthly change +23.70%
      yearly change: +126,067.28%

      and then….
      droobli.com: May 2010
      monthly change -47.70%
      yearly change: -73.07%

3148. Comment by beavis | June 20th, 2010

      kees,

      I’m sure there is something about the”big picture” that we are missing. I wish their was a nice Droobli BA out there that could tell us about any exciting new “launches” that we can expect to see. . .

3149. Comment by kees | June 20th, 2010

      here you are Beavis, latest Droobli update by Dean Mannheimer:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km1EGj4xwnY&feature=related

      parts 1 and 2

      enjoy

3150. Comment by kees | June 20th, 2010

      and of course there’s always http://search.twitter.com/search?q=droobli for any further latest updates

3151. Comment by Shin | June 20th, 2010

      Hang On…. how is this a scam? did anybody got cheated while managed bid on the product and it is not delivered??

3152. Comment by Jeffner | June 20th, 2010

      What’s the deal with this impostor Kees? Are they trying to discount iwasduped’s statement from the whirlpool thread. In comment 3139 they claimed that it was not real.

3153. Comment by kees | June 20th, 2010

      Jeffner, Droobli BA’s have a history of making wrong claims

3154. Comment by kees | June 20th, 2010

      imposter Kees (also known as ‘niemand’ & ‘Cameron’) (elsewhere) = Droobli BA

3155. Comment by beavis | June 20th, 2010

      Slight correction, kees:

      imposter Kees (also known as ‘niemand’ & ‘Cameron’) (elsewhere) = Dildo BA

3156. Comment by Willem | June 21st, 2010

      @Shin you’re absolutely right, but these people don’t care, they want to play X-Files badly.

      @Jeffner, yes Iwasduped is made up, like many of the people on these sites, read between the lines man, stop being such a follower, and have an opinion of your own.

      @kees I am still waiting on a reply.

3157. Comment by kees | June 21st, 2010

      What reply would that be?

3158. Comment by green and gold | June 21st, 2010

      Hello all-just got finished one of those webinar things and thought rather interesting indeed.These guys are going to take over the world (damn scary thought after some psychos I saw in here!).Went and had a look at the site and thought this is bizarre-$500.00 cash being sold for $50.00-price seems right! Best check around.Found this site and just want to say thanks-puts a few puzzle pieces in place.Ugly stuff however you look at it.The one consistancy throughout this rave is the lack of reasonable answers from the pro side-That says enough!So what to do tomorrow when the bloke rings back to see if I want divest myself of $x00.00.???

3159. Comment by beavis | June 21st, 2010

      “So what to do tomorrow when the bloke rings back to see if I want divest myself of $x00.00.???”

      Tell him you will do an exchange; you will swap his Droobli opportunity for your business opportunity; Giant Badger Farm (“Big Badgers mean big income!”). Instead of the standard Giant Badger Farm “Income For Life” Package you can also offer him for an additional $2000 the “Diamond Level Super Badger Farm Mega-Income Package” (guaranteed to make him the most successful Giant Badger farmer on his block or we’ll double his badger tokens*).

      *Additional investment may be required; other conditions may apply

3160. Comment by Simple Aussie Bloke | June 22nd, 2010

      I’ve never had much money. Never owned a business and don’t have a wide circle of friends. This guy from Droobli tells me I’m just the type they’re looking for. I said “okay” but I know I’m not the person he’s looking for. I’m not motivated or anything like that. But you can make money while you sleep so I’ll give Droobli a try. By the way, I’m not good at scammin’ people.

3161. Comment by beavis | June 22nd, 2010

      Simple Aussie Bloke said:

      “By the way, I’m not good at scammin’ people.”

      But you are off to a good start! You’ll be out there selling an unsustainable business model with a proven track record of failure to your friends and relatives. And don’t forget the fake auction results! I’m sure by renewal time your upline will be saying all those webinar-inspired cliches to let you know that you are going to be the poster child for Droobli success. Just remember to take lots of naps because with Droobli you make money while asleep (or is that “in your dreams”?).

3162. Comment by green and gold | June 22nd, 2010

      “Giant Badger Farm”-Dont think it will work-I grew up farming-its hard work.Perhaps cane toad credits-lots of them too

      Simple Aussie Bloke
      Think about it-how many reasons can there be for a bloke not paying $50 to get $200-not cheap enough? The guy who phoned me back today admitted he hadnt actually made a lot of money YET-and basically knew less about the “company” than I did just from a small amount of searching .Would reccomend a little research first.Im going with the free credits and see if I cant nail some of those cash cards while people are bailing out-purely for amusement mind you!

3163. Comment by Simple Aussie Bloke | June 22nd, 2010

      Look the guy said I could make millions and live my dreams. I want that. I love to eat. So these people help me with my finances and they said to do my do diligence so they are on the level. It’s only $3000 or so and I have that from a car accident. I thinkj this time is my time to make it. Not trying to say all of you aren’t important or anything. But don’t you just want to do something different? I don’t care if I lose it all. At least I tried.

3164. Comment by Simple Aussie Bloke | June 22nd, 2010

      Look the guy said I could make millions and live a dream. I want that. I love to eat. So help me with my finances and they said to do my do diligence so they are on the level. It’s only $3000 or so and I have that from a car accident. I think this time I’ll make it. Not trying to say all of you aren’t important or anything. But don’t you just want to do something different? I don’t care if I lose it all. At least I tried.

3165. Comment by beavis | June 22nd, 2010

      Simple Aussie Bloke said:

      “Look the guy said I could make millions and live a dream.”

      And when my Giant Badger Army comes knocking on your door your millions will be worthless. . .

3166. Comment by Simple Aussie Bloke | June 23rd, 2010

      You guys need to lighten up. I’m following my heart not my head. I’m no businessman. I know that. Facts and figures go over my head. But Droobli is my last chance to make it. I’m not educated or particularly bright but I want to do some important. These guys are telling me I can make a lot of money. I want to buy some houses and rent them to people. I guess it’s a goal. Droobli gives me that chance. I have a few thousand in the bank and tomorrow I’m giving it to Dave. I know I can make money and make people surprised. Like the guy said The key is positive thinking and anyone can make it happen. The idea that millions of people will be my customers. I’ve never sold anything in my life. I?ll keep everyone up to date.

3167. Comment by I'm Back Beave | June 23rd, 2010

      I tell you I’ve made lots from Droobli that beave doesn’t understand or can’t understand.you are pathetic Beave with badger farming. You haven’t ever done real work have you? Ridiculous and you say tell me how? Well how is in the first place are you just your talk in the first place. I gave you my facts. Lots of em but you people won’t listen. Just let folks my up their minds and get on with it. How’s it reasoning and that should be enough if you are selling and down a good company. Where would you be without Gene to throw at? So how’s that? Just keep this bunch behind but you are welcome to shop at my store. I’d be glad to take your money. If you noted what I said a hundred times Droobli is just getting started in its global control of the e marketplace. Just wait and see how big this is. Read the company and go to the link. How do you live with yourself? Tear dow thats all you do. You’re just don’t make it happen. You build on a good foundation. That takes time. Droobli is going to be big soon. You’re just saying things they shouldn’t.

      So, Beav, I don’t hear you and your big mouth so much these days. Still working for $6.84 an hour. LOL. Come to Douglas and Ill set you up here. Lifes good. Take a chance Beave and change your life.

3168. Comment by beavis | June 23rd, 2010

      OK, Gene; we’ve shown the auctions are rigged; the track record of Droobli is one of failure followed up by failure; the public disclosures required by Federal law show it is not much of a company; the public disclosures also show key officers and directors resigning. Now, should anybody believe you; a man who sells “chaga mushrooms” as a cancer cure or should they believe the verified facts (some of which are verified by Droobli itself)?

      Your Droobli “brilliant concept” is only slightly less credible than my “Giant Badger Farm” (not to mention a giant badger army is totally cool whereas there is simply nothing cool about you or MediocreNet aka Droobli).

3169. Comment by iwasduped | June 23rd, 2010

      To Willem

      You wrote
      Comment by Willem | June 21st, 2010

      @Jeffner, yes Iwasduped is made up, like many of the people on these sites, read between the lines man, stop being such a follower, and have an opinion of your own.

      No, Willem, not made up. I couldnt post here earlier but if you wander over to whirlpool (as you obviously do), you will see my posts there in response to your comments.

      Why would my experience be made up?………. want proof?
      Let me know and I will willingly supply details. Go on, take the challenge!!!!!!

3170. Comment by I'm Back Beav/Beavis | June 24th, 2010

      Why? Why should I say anything. You haven’t proved anything. You forget Droobli is a huge company expanding every day with millions of customers. Thats the truth and you cant le about it. I saw the figures. 10 million customers and now 50,000 more every single day last month. Australia will launch again in August. Even bigger discounts. This is global selling. Samoa August 14. Guam December 5. More and more countries. Millionaires created every day with Droobli. Thats reality. Play your old sock game but it doesnt change anything. You ll never stop it.

3171. Comment by beavis | June 24th, 2010

      “I’m Back Beav/Beavis” aka “Gene” said:

      “10 million customers and now 50,000 more every single day last month. ”

      And somehow they do it without showing the income on their financial statements and with only minimal traffic to their website. . . right. I think you need to stop smoking those “chaga mushrooms”, Gene, and look up the real facts. This crap you are making up flies in the face of Droobli’s own disclosures; you know, the ones they have to now disclose as a publically traded company. The company has a market cap of under 10 million dollars. eBay, which you love to compare it to, has a market cap of over 27 billion dollars making your whole comparison laughable. If you knew how to read a financial report then you’d see what a joke your company is. Then again if you could read a financial report you probably wouldn’t be a Droobli Business Associate.

3172. Comment by live liberty = Truth | June 24th, 2010

      Boy you sure enjoy confusing people with your meaningless stats. Those figures don’t mean anything. Droobli has the graphs to prove it. Watch a webinar. Youll see the whole picture clearly. Or are you scared too? Ill say it again what happened to your dreams? You can make it happen. See, Beav this is the way we talk. Upbeat and positive. But you can only lie and say the negative. One Day youll work for me Beav if you dont snap out of it real soon. Droobli is already the biggest global platform company. Thats just the beginning. You don’t get 10 million customers in 18 months for nothing. Do your calculations. In 3 years we’ll reach 100 million customers with 10 million business associates. Thats global trading market based e commerce working for the good of all. Why not try it? Amazing opportunity.

3173. Comment by beavis | June 24th, 2010

      live liberty = Truth aka “Gene” said:

      “Boy you sure enjoy confusing people with your meaningless stats. Those figures don’t mean anything. Droobli has the graphs to prove it. Watch a webinar.”

      You aren’t seriously suggesting I ignore the SEC filings by MediocreNet aka Droobli in favor of a webinar by some jackass in Droobli? How stupid do you think the audience is here? I think you are delusional Gene and I’m sorry that reality and you aren’t getting along.

3174. Comment by Casey | June 24th, 2010

      Gene, You are really delusional and as Beavis has said you really need to stop smoking Chaga mushrooms (I think you are mistakenly smoking “Magic Mushrooms”. Once again here are the official May 2010 Stats of Unique Visitors to Droobli in case u missed it a few days ago.
      http://i46.tinypic.com/flcbuq.jpg
      As you will notice there were 17,077 unique visitors in May, a long way off the millions that you claim there are.(And well below the opposition)
      Stop dreaming and face reality, GROOBLI is a dead duck and you are a Quack Quack. Stop misleading people you snake oil salesman.

3175. Comment by beavis | June 25th, 2010

      Casey,

      I just found out the reason we can’t track the 10,000,000 users is they are using the super secret pre-launch site located on the continent of Atlantis to buy Droobli products. My understanding is that on the yet to be released launch date Bobby Jensen will stand between the Pillars of Hercules, hold his hands up high and raise Atlantis from the sea! If there was ever a time to sign up as a BA this is it! Those who reach Executive Vice-President in 2011 will be awarded Atlantis beach front property and 60 slaves (please see the forthcoming webinar for details and restrictions; Droobli is not responsible for the wrath of any gods including, but not restricted to Poseidon, Atlas and/or the other usual suspects).

3176. Comment by Casey | June 26th, 2010

      Oh no they are sneaking into Thailand now.
      A Global Business That Never Requires The Management Of Any Stock And Can Be Operated From Thailand or Anywhere In The World
      http://www.munybuilder.com/
      Lets all get some free credits from him.

3177. Comment by kees | June 26th, 2010

      Remember John Cini, the ever optimistic Droobli Cheerleader and Sales Director?

      Well, there’s an Update From John Cini: Roll With The Changes!
      http://antipaper.wordpress.com/2010/06/22/update-from-john-cini-roll-with-the-changes/

      paraphrased in short:

      Who needs Droobli?
      You need my awesome new MLM product!
      The groundbreaking opportunity of a lifetime!’
      Get in now & make me … errr… yourself filthy rich!

      article signed by:
      John Cini
      Senior Manager
      LightYear Wireless

      *insert rolling eyes smiley*

3178. Comment by beavis | June 26th, 2010

      kees,

      If I sign up with Lightyear Wireless will I get a title like “Senior Manager” and business cards that say “Senior Manager” and will I be able to tell my friends I’m a “Senior Manager” and will my mom stop calling me a loser because I’m now a “Senior Manager” huh? huh? huh?

3179. Comment by kees | June 26th, 2010

      Don’t know Beavis, you’ll have to ask John Cinior Manager

3180. Comment by beavis | June 27th, 2010

      Ouch, that pun hurt

3181. Comment by Texarse | June 27th, 2010

      Oh dear… John Cini says…

      “Over the last 20 years, I’ve seen a lot of products run through the network marketing window. Almost 100% of the products had one thing in common: they were overpriced and only attractive to those who joined as reps.”

      So. In his experience, almost all MLM are overpriced and not worth being a customer of.

      You’d think after 5 years, or even 10 years, you’d've already come to that conclusion… But, he’s been plugging away at this game for 20 years and only just discovered that?

      And, now, despite his inability to see that salient fact, he wants you to trust him, just because he “spent several hours on the fone a few weeks ago with several of the top earners and also with the #2 Corp. guy, VP of Sales.”

      He was “blown away by the quality of people and the enthusiasm of them all.”

      You’ll excuse me if I laugh into my own scorn, but, what else do you expect to hear when you talk to the people that are making money? Or to the VP of sales? Of course those people are going to be enthusiastic…

      It’d be like talking to lotto winners and the VP of the company that sells the lotto tickets. “Yeah, yeah, buying a lotto ticket was MY way to instant wealth and ease! You can do it too!” “Yes, I think you should buy a lotto ticket, because, other people got lucky and you can beat the odds too!”

      Still, this is a thread for droobli, not some other scam, so, let’s just stick to that.

3182. Comment by beavis | June 27th, 2010

      In defense of John Cini, at least people can actually use a cell phone service as opposed to the ridiculous auction format of Droobli or witch doctor certified healing juice. Of course, no one will actually sell the service as the money is in recruiting ass-ociates and they’ll charge a hefty sign-up fee, etc. Never mind; you’re right; it’s MLM bullshit being sold by stupid and lazy sheep. It’ll suck.

3183. Comment by fake beavis (121.220.127.152) from somewhere in Australia | June 28th, 2010

      As a person critical of Droobli on this anti Droobli site – I would like to apologize to all the people in Droobli – as I have been wrong.

      The Droobli global auction and Australian auction is starting next Thursday and it is a great company after all.

      I better go and find another blog so I can critize another company and other people.

      thanks for the memories

3184. Comment by Texarse | June 28th, 2010

      I’m sorry, what? Droobli is launching its Australian site?

      How many times is this? 2? 3?

      I thought you only got ONE chance to make a first impression…

      How many times did google launch? Or eBay? Or Amazon?

      Tsk tsk.

3185. Comment by beavis | June 28th, 2010

      Texarse,

      Apparently someone decided to speak on my behalf in post 3181. Let me be perfectly clear – Droobli is excrement.

3186. Comment by eaglescout | June 29th, 2010

      Fixed that for you, beavis.

3187. Comment by beavis | June 29th, 2010

      Thanks, eaglescout. If someone is going to get intoxicated and post stupid comments in my name it should be me.

3188. Comment by Mr Cynic | June 30th, 2010

      Post #3168 – Gene said “Australia will launch again in August”

      Post #3181 – next Thursday Australia (and Global) will launch

      sooo……is next Thursday the August launch brought forward, or the May launch in diguise, or is it the November 09 launch,or is it a,say…….interlaunch launch?

      I’m so confused, think I’ll stop for launch…er…lunch.

      ps:I might go check out the Giant Badger trading futures while I’m eating my lau….lu….oh forget it!

3189. Comment by beavis | July 1st, 2010

      Droobli claimed it’s “global auction platform” would launch on June of 2010. And now what?

      Other news; giant badger has been seen frequenting various pubs and sporting events in Wisconsin:

      http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/BuckinghamUBadger.jpg

3190. Comment by Dave | July 1st, 2010

      OK, is Simple Aussie Bloke for real or an awesome troll?

      Sounds to me like the sort of guy who would buy a used car from overseas and send the money via Western Union.

      “You guys need to lighten up. I’m following my heart not my head.”

      Meanwhile deep inside your head, there’s a couple of very smart molecules desperately trying to get your attention.

      “I’m no businessman. I know that. Facts and figures go over my head.”

      Ah so you’ve clearly done the maths and it works out then?

      “But Droobli is my last chance to make it. I’m not educated or particularly bright but I want to do some important.”

      My recommendation would be to go and blow your nose and see what comes out. Perhaps you would then be able to hear those molecules clearer.

      “These guys are telling me I can make a lot of money.”

      At this point I descended into uncontrollable laughter and checked that Rule 74a of Life was still “there’s one born every minute”, not forgetting Rule 74b probably hasn’t changed from “for each one born ever minute, there’s another to take advantage of them”.

      “I want to buy some houses and rent them to people.”

      Have you considered speaking to the bank. You’re less likely to get screwed over (but only slightly)

      “I have a few thousand in the bank and tomorrow I’m giving it to Dave.”

      Eh? I don’t want your money. Oh, another Dave. My bad. Let me guess, Dave was really persistent as he was in the shit from not getting anyone to play (kinda like my wife’s mate who kept trying to get her roped in).

      “I know I can make money and make people surprised.”

      Yes, but you’re giving your money to Dave. You’ll certainly surprise people when you chop his head off with an axe.

      “Like the guy said The key is positive thinking and anyone can make it happen.”

      No, the key is getting in early and hoping the people below you can find enough suckers below them. Like Dave. And the people above him. And above them.

      “The idea that millions of people will be my customers.”

      Millions of people buying 100-odd items off a website with less traffic than http://www.knittinggranniesdodallas.com?

      “I’ve never sold anything in my life. I?ll keep everyone up to date.”

      I wish you all the best. Genuinely I do. And on your return. I will point and say ‘I told you so’, like i’ve done so many times in the past when i’ve seen people get scammed by blatantly obvious stuff that’s right in front of their eyes and they then lay blame on everyone and everything else but their own stupidity.

3191. Comment by Mr Cynic | July 2nd, 2010

      mmmmmm…….nice badger beav.

3192. Comment by beavis | July 2nd, 2010

      Heh, that’s a small one. You should see what I have in my basement. Had a problem with the Super Badger Growth Hormone causing some cancerous growth on the butts, but thanks to Gene’s chaga mushrooms being applied directly to the growth we’re back on track. Thanks, Gene for applying the chaga mushrooms; we couldn’t/wouldn’t have done it without you.

3193. Comment by maria | July 4th, 2010

      This Droobli says they are doing Dutch auctions.
      What a crap. Have people seen a dutch auction before?
      it is all open and you pay for it what you think it is worth. You stop the clock when you get to the amount you want to pay and the only time you miss out if somebody else is faster at stopping the clock.

      I might be slow, however how can it be cheap when you need to pay to have a look at the price all the time.
      One comment was that this is great as you don’t have to pay any monthly fee. However I think the joining and yearly fee is rather steep.

      I heard from a friend that paid his money, with a guarantee that you get your money back if you chance your mind, well it took him about 5 months and legal threads to get his money back. That already scares me. The rest leaves me a sick feeling in the gut. Now I am not against networking, I am against being hounded and a sick feeling in the stomach.

      By the way I have seen another website with an auction again by the time you get the cheap product, that you don’t really need is after you spend a lot of money trying to win it. Might as well go to the casino.

3194. Comment by beavis | July 5th, 2010

      maria,

      If I didn’t know better I might think they are trying to make a profit instead of being genuinely concerned about you and that is why they are offering you this tremendous financial opportunity. My suggestion would be to quietly decline their offer and if they ask a second time kick them as hard as you possibly in the nuts. If you follow these steps I don’t believe you would have to deal with any subsequent offers.

3195. Comment by beavis | July 7th, 2010

      LLLLLLLAAAAAAAUUUUUUUNNNNNNNCCCCCCCCHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

      “GroobLi.com Successfully Launches Global Auction Portal and Australian Portal

      BOCA RATON, FL — (MARKET WIRE) — 07/06/10 — MediocreNet Group Technologies, Inc. (OTCBB: MEDG) today announced that its wholly-owned subsidiary, GroobLi.com, Ltd., successfully launched its previously announced Global Auction Portal and Australian Auction Portal in late June. GroobLi.com now offers four auction platforms; including the two existing platforms in the North America and the European Union, and two new platforms, one for Australia and the Global platform serving the balance of the world.

      Highlights of the Multi-Platform strategy include:

      * Giving users from around the world the ability to bid against each other simultaneously on select products with the price of those products reducing, in real-time, on all four platforms.
      * Generating increased bidding activity and creating additional buying opportunities.
      * Increasing the activity from worldwide bidders, in every time zone, 24 hours a day provides for greater ability to add state-of-the-art luxury products and travel adventures.
      * Allowing customers to view auction items in their own local currencies.
      * Enhanced features and benefits that make the auctions more user friendly including a calendar showing how long the auction has been running.
      * Worldwide shipping to most countries based upon specific product selection criteria.

      Bobby Jensen, President and Chief Executive Officer of MediocreNet Group Technologies and the founder of GroobLi.com, stated, “Today we announce the successful launch of a global shopping revolution. We believe we are the first to offer consumers around the world a new and better way to get the most for their money while shopping online through the reverse auction platform. With GroobLi.com, shopping online will no longer be bound by borders, time zones, language or currency. We are proud to offer the global shopping community a new way to find named brand products at a fraction of the price in an environment that is fun, exciting and easy to use.”"

3196. Comment by eaglescout | July 7th, 2010

      What, again?

3197. Comment by beavis | July 7th, 2010

      I’ve decided to have my own “launch”. Now, people from all over the world can come to Las Vegas, NV and purchase my Giant Badger Growth Hormone. I will call this a “Global Launch” since there is no restriction on where you are from, what language you speak and, most importantly, what currency you use.

3198. Comment by eaglescout | July 7th, 2010

      When is your launch? I’m out of hormones.

3199. Comment by beavis | July 8th, 2010

      The launch was four days ago. Didn’t you see all of the fireworks?

3200. Comment by eaglescout | July 9th, 2010

      Oh… I missed it. I hope you will launch again soon if it’s not too much trouble.

3201. Comment by Texarse | July 10th, 2010

      Another Australian launch? (Of droobli, not of Beav’s badgers).

      What the holy hell?

      How many times does it take to get it right?

      Where’s Steve Zammit? Surely he could answer that for us…

      PS http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/dynamic_charting.aspx?selected=MEDG&symbol=MEDG&timeframe=max&charttype=line

      In the last couple of days since that announcement of the re-launch, Media Group went from .35 per share to .30 almost a sixth of it’s value. Jeez, you’d be happy with the performance of that stock, wouldn’t you?

3202. Comment by beavis | July 10th, 2010

      While Droobli launches and launches here is my Giant Badger Army training and reproducing with a little boost from Gene’s chaga mushrooms:

      http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/

3203. Comment by Jim | July 12th, 2010

      As an ex droobli networker… I’m not complaining about the business model. Which, is in my opinion one of the most expensive and defeating MLM’s out there.

      Actually, I’m using the batch of credits I had to purchase. I’ve won 3 auctions June 28th. I’ve received none of them. I did get a response from a customer non service agent saying they shipped July 7th. Which if sent media mail would’ve showed up by now. I paid $6 for shipping a charge card, so I would think it would be better than media mail.

      BTW – By watching the auctions the last month, it certainly doesn’t look like there is much traffic to the site.

3204. Comment by beavis | July 12th, 2010

      Jim,

      They have to wait to receive the funds you transferred via charge card to reach them whereupon Bobby Jensen personally bicycles down to Walmart, buys the product, picks up the postage and then mails it. The reason Droobli doesn’t do more auctions is, as you can plainly see, that Bobby Jensen simply is at his limit and Droobli hasn’t quite saved up enough for a second bicycle. Auction traffic will explode when Droobli launches its’ second bicycle in August!

3205. Comment by Casey | July 12th, 2010

      Great reply Beavis, not far from the truth Haaaaa
      Jim,
      Thanks for writing. Apart from the fact that you have not received your prize winnings?, you did not mention the price you paid for these and the exceptional savings that you made…we would love to know this and other great experiences that you have had with DUBIOS.?? Cheers.

3206. Comment by beavis | July 13th, 2010

      Jim,

      Please note I’m not poking fun at you; only Bobby Jensen and Company (my “single bicycle” post was just a joke as I happen to know Dean Mannheimer has a bicycle, too, so Droobli is not just some single bicycle operation but is a “multi-continent, worldwide dual-bicycle Ecommerce giant”). Glad to see you retired from Droobli. Please encourage others to do the same or, preferably, not to join at all.

3207. Comment by Former MP | July 14th, 2010

      You guys have gone all weird now. I’ve tried to tell you a million times I must say, this is a real online business. NOT only the big three but you guys never li8sten. Too much pride . Too much you like the sound of your own voice. Why not listen to the TRUTH instead? We have all the products you could see on eBay and even brand new automobiles coming on the auctions where the price will go down. Yes that’s right! Our prices go down not up. That’s always been the case and millions of people are loving it. This is something you can do right from home and is serious competition for the ebay ripoff site. These are real auctions not like ebay. Everyone gets a discount. It’s unique. Droobli has caught on bigtime but I don’t need to sell it. That’s e commerce. Something beavis and his cronies don’t understand. His stats don’t mean anything. There lies all of it. Just try the Express the Unique bid and the Zero auctions. These bring customers to my store and make money. Lots of it. I have millions of customers. By 2020 80% of the world will be shopping Droobli. That’s a fact. The graphs prove it. I don’t need to say anything mre. because your not listening. Never will. Well get out of the way of motivated people who want to make money with ecommerce. Thats business. At the shop you can buy without an auction. Just like any other online store. Its still early days so get in quick. ignore everything on this scampedia site. Get some free credits and begin to live the excitement. And because of what we do we will have the niche that could make our licensed associates wealthy.

      Its a true business model. Launches are happening now. Get in before the ship sails. Its a cutting edge company and I still don‘t know all we‘ll have. Its viral growth and changinging or ‘transmographying’ as we call it. Have you ever thought of having a chain of department stores? Well this can be even better with much less overhead and you won’t be limited to for walls either. Its global and all the negativity in the world wont stop it. The Australia launch was huge and most people down under are shopping tghe droobli way. That makes since. Who wouldn’t want to save up to 100% every time you shop?

3208. Comment by Jay | July 14th, 2010

      OK FormerMP, lets have a quick look at the debli customer experience:

      For every completed “auction” there is one “winner” and everyone else is a loser. So every loser will have learned something important: droobli is indeed a steaming pile of excrement.

      So before becoming involved in droobli you will need four things:
      1. Be Lazy. Don’t do any due diligence.
      2. Be Stupid. Believe that everyone else is like you.
      3. Be Greedy. Want money for doing nothing.
      4. Have $3000 you never want to see again.
      And the bonus optional requirement:
      5. Have No Moral Compass. Feel no shame in ripping off people that trust you.

      Lets see; does that pretty much sum up your situation?

3209. Comment by beavis | July 14th, 2010

      Former MP (aka “Gene”) said:

      “I have millions of customers.”

      Gene’s counting the chaga mushrooms he sold me for the Giant Badger Army:

      http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/

3210. Comment by Casey | July 14th, 2010

      Former MP (AKA “Gene” The snake oil salesman).
      Gene Quotes,”The Australia launch was huge and most people down under are shopping the droobli way”.
      There are 22 Million people in Australia….so MOST of them are now shopping the Droobli way? mmm
      So Gene, I guess then that Droobli is supporting the whole Australian economy? if most people Down Under are shopping the Droobli Way. WOW.
      Gene, Have you approached Joolia Gillard the new Prime Minister of Australia yet? I’m sure that she will set it as one of her Governments Policy promises for the next Federal election later in the year to get everyone to shop the “Droobli way”. I’m sure the introduction of this new “Droobli Shopping Policy” into legislation will get her re-elected.
      The Australian people will rejoice at this great new “Droobli Shopping Policy”,(disguised as another Tax) ensuring the Labour Party another 3 years in power. Go Gene the Australian Governments hero.
      Don’t forget to take a Chaga mushroom joint with you Gene to smoke together at your meeting with Joolia. She is on something now?, but she definitely needs something stronger.

3211. Comment by Texarse | July 15th, 2010

      You want stats and graphs that mean something?

      http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/dynamic_charting.aspx?selected=MEDG&symbol=MEDG&timeframe=max&charttype=line

      From a high of 90 cents on the 15th of December, to 29 cents as at today. This after the Australian launch and the announcement of the Australian re-launch.

      Today at 7.45 pm, CST, there were 129 live auctions at au.droobli.com, 222 live auctions at us.droobli.com and 130 live auctions at eu.droobli.com. 481 in total, across the entire world.

      At the same time, http://www.ebay.com had this interesting stat:

      “33,892 results found for pokemon cards”

      That’s right. There are 70 times more listings on ebay just for pokemon cards, than there are listings for everything in the whole world for droobli.

      Read ‘em and weep.

      And, more importantly, those people on ebay aren’t there desperately trying to spend “ebay points” before they are asked to pony up another $3,000-00 for another 12 months for the right to sell the right sell “ebay points” to other customers.

      And, here’s your starter for 10, no conferring… Why, on one hand, does droobli’s promotional material say “where would you be today if you’d gotten in on ebay 10 years ago?” on one hand, but on the other, drooblidiots* say that ebay is “a ripoff”?

      Is it because that drooblidiots can’t tell a successful business model from a ripoff?

      I’m sorry, but, the Australian launch wasn’t huge at all. I went to trends.google.com and searched for “droobli australia”. This is the result:

      “Your terms – droobli australia – do not have enough search volume to show graphs.”

      And “most people down under are shopping tghe [sic] droobli way”? I’d be surprised if anyone was actually buying anything there if they weren’t trying to offload their soon-to-be-worthless points.

      (* I’m sorry, but I’ve gone back to referring to them as drooblidiots, because it’s obvious that they can’t just be greedy… They have to be stupid as well.)

3212. Comment by "Uncle J.D." | July 15th, 2010

      You guys are real low attacking Gene. We can all learn from his success. He’s become a millionaire from Droobli. He’s a positive guy typical of us cornhuskers. You city people just don’t understand. When he speaks I believe him not your tricky graphs and stats. You can twist anything. I’ve contacted Gene and he’s speaking at our 4H club next week. He’s an inspiration for young people.

3213. Comment by beavis | July 15th, 2010

      Uncle J.D. said:

      “You city people just don’t understand. When he speaks I believe him not your tricky graphs and stats.”

      You, Sir, are true Badger Farm material! You don’t need any graphs or stats to see the “millionaire builder” potential in raising Giant Badgers. I personally knew somebody from Nebraska therefore you can trust me implicitly when I tell you that I can see in you the qualities that it takes to get a pair of breeding badgers and, with the help of my Giant Badger Growth Hormone, build an empire that will support your family for generations. Think about it; your $3,000 investment to me will change your life forever. You’ll make millions and you’ll even do it while you sleep (badgers breed at night). So, just like the posters said for recruiting mercenaries into the Rhodesian Army back in the 80’s, “be a man among men” and sign up now for Badger Wealth.

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3215. Comment by Jack Daddy | July 16th, 2010

      Hey everyone. I thought this blog had died. I thought I’d have another look and see what it was doing and presto! it was back up again. Good work.

      I think I read in one of my recent newsletters that Droobli had put together some leadership group involving 4 or 5 of some Drooblis so called heavy hitters from Australia and America. From memory one of them was Trevor Chatham. Not sure if anyone attended one of his ’seminars’ over the last 12 months but they are of the usual kind of crap. A more astute car salesman you will never find than Mr.Chatham.

      In my mind, he is the reason why Australia people have been sucked in. Craps on about all these thousands of dollars he has earnt from Droobli, but that was when it hadnt even launched here and when it was in its ‘pre launch phase’

      I havent touched my Droobli account in some time and I dont plan on. It runs out some time in October/November.

3216. Comment by Texarse | July 16th, 2010

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3218. Comment by Texarse | July 16th, 2010

      I’ve been commenting about droobli at the http://www.gotgames.com.au site. Why not join me there?

3219. Comment by 11411181 | July 16th, 2010

      I like turtles.

3220. Comment by beavis | July 16th, 2010

      Badgers eat turtles.

3221. Comment by Former MP | July 19th, 2010

      You guys are so predictable with your gripes and disputations. But hardcore business is a model effective clear and passing on the ability. Do you get it beavis? And the others? Did you say something? If you’re going to have an e commerce model how do you plan on bringing customers? Well here’s the Droobli way. Build a solid network of COMMITTED sellers who by word of mouth spread it. That the source of viral growth. Through the people. Your team is everything. This is business Im talking here. Auctions where the prices go down is our niche hook helps you grow a strong productive online business for future growth potential. Why dont you get it? Are my words simple enough? Your wasting time people. You capitalize just because you can spend a little time here to show how foolish your arguments are. You no real arguments against Droobli so just shut it and keep spinning scamapedia to stop the company man. Why not? The topic at hand is a price in one auction goes down to nothing. We know this works because it has already been done in working off of their success. This will be worldwide in many languages. You don’t have to handle any products. You don’t need any accounts or supply. Where do you buy paper oods? Again go to Droobli. No one other then Droobli does it all for you. You just begin acquiring your customers and associates have to do that once you get your customers they are yours for they bring in at least five more customers for you who bring in five and so on. Do you think Im kidding? I know how to make money with this thing. It works. Do you know what a fantasy is? Seriously we’ve got a great company and basically it’s an online store. With any store you need customers. They’ve figured a way to draw customers. Buying the credits are a given to power your biz. You pay for them and recoup your investment once they are sold to your customers who also jump start the sales force which could be you. With the income potential here do you seriously think you could get into business without any expenditure? Be in business for yourself so you may have to get a job or work for someone else. Hey let’s bring it up a few notches. Think about this working for you. You’re going to make more money in your store or shop or marketplace than you will with the auctions and no credits are needed to purchase in the store. But if you don’t have any customers what good will it do? Don’t you think that the auctions will have any pulling power for customers? It’s been proven they have. Are you making any money guys? Ill show you how with za great company and team. It’s so obvious of the caliber of humans are who stoop so low and lick the slop in this cesspool. People who don’t like anyone to succeed in anything which have a distorted view of reality I wonder if they ever get anything done around their homes while they pick things apart saying it can’t be done.

      You parrots aimlessly attacking attempting to be knowledgeable about something which will take the Internet by storm and help those who really understand what we have is a good thing we don’t have to be sucked into their loser disposition and keep on building.

      We’re still building something great.

3222. Comment by beavis | July 19th, 2010

      Former MP said:

      “But hardcore business is a model effective clear and passing on the ability. Do you get it beavis?”

      No, I really don’t. But I once had a dog that I’d take into the pool to go swimming. He was a vigorous paddler however he would inevitably wind up going in circles. I should have named him “Droobli”.

3223. Comment by Bob | July 19th, 2010

      You guys are a blast…does GroobLi still exist?

3224. Comment by Texarse | July 19th, 2010

      FormerMP. How long have you been involved in droobli? Are you making “great money”? What level did you buy into? Gold, Silver?

      Have you followed Steve Zammit’s criteria to making great money in droobli?

      =======

      1. It’s important to join an already successful group who know how to build the group and are business savvy.
      2. Have been in business before, because droobli is no different to any other business.
      2. No, wait, you can come into droobli without having been in business before. Because droobli is no different to any other business. But make sure you follow business savvy people.
      3. Work hard.
      4. Have good support and a system.
      5. Think long term.
      6. Don’t join droobli if you want to get rich quick. If you do, this is unfortunate.
      7. Be tough in direct selling.
      8. Be one of the 5% to make “decent money”. 95% of people in droobli won’t own any wealth, just like in the real world. You’ll maybe only earn part time wealth.
      9. Don’t read into company financials. They won’t make any difference.
      10. If you are investing in droobli in Australia, be prepared to wait 2-5 years for droobli’s goals to be reached.

3225. Comment by Texarse | July 19th, 2010

      So. FormerMP. Are you in a already successful group with people who are business savvy?

      Have you been in business before? Because, droobli is like every other business. No. Wait, you don’t have to have been in business before, despite droobli being like every other business.

      Are you working hard?

      Do you have a system? And support?

      Are you thinking long term?

      Did you, unfortunately, join droobli to get rich quick?

      Are you tough in direct selling?

      Are you one of the 5% making money? Or are you one of the 95% that won’t own any wealth?

      Are you reading the company financials? (Because it won’t make any difference)

      If you are in Australia, are you prepared to wait up to 5 years for droobli’s goals to be reached?

      ===

      These are the criteria set by Steve Zammit in post 3085 onwards. These aren’t from some droobli-doubting, stinking-thinking, negative vibe-merchant, who doesn’t get it (ie, smart people), this is from a dyed-in-the-wool droobli convert, who is making great money! (ie a drooblidiot.)

      I guess if you didn’t, you are destined to be one of the 95% of people who (like in real life) get nothing.

3226. Comment by Texarse | July 19th, 2010

      Just as a matter of interest, there are now a whopping 505 items on offer across all three droobli sites! (eu., us. & au.) At this rate the “millions” of droobli customers will have fight each other like vultures to get their hands on those limited numbers of goodies.

      Remember, you DON’T have to be a disgruntled droobli BA, trying desperately to cash out your soon-to-be-useless-if-you-don’t-renew-for-another-year droobli points to save money using the droobli auction, but, it does help. A lot.

3227. Comment by beavis | July 19th, 2010

      I’m sure Gene can explain away the numerical discrepancies with some good ‘ol Nebraska “Cornhusker” logic complete with colloquialisms. So, I’m taking bets; is your money on Gene or Reality (odds on favorite is actually Gene as Reality has not made a single appearance in any of Gene’s arguments).

3228. Comment by Bob | July 19th, 2010

      Bobby Jensen?
      Are you looking? Give me a call and I will give you a piece of everyone’s mind…

3229. Comment by Texarse | July 19th, 2010

      OMG! OMG!

      I was soooooo wrong!

      I apologise…

      I’ve been mispronouncing droobli, this whole time!

      I only just found out it’s pronounced “doobli”, not “dubbli”.

      Can you all forgive me?

3230. Comment by Texarse | July 19th, 2010

      Another link:

      http://bizspeaknogeek.posterous.com/droobli-scam-evidence-goes-un-contested

      Potential Aussie recruits should look at this.$

3231. Comment by Casey | July 19th, 2010

      The way that Former MP (AKA Gene of Nabraska) writes in post 3219. It sounds exactly like a church brainwashing sermon if I didn’t know better? all over the place and makes no sense? Gene, you may be able to convert the sheep in Nabraska, but then again their must be a lot of gullible people in Nabraska if they believe you. (I bet you once sold Aluminum Siding along with Snake Oil too).
      Gene, please answer some of the legitimate questions being asked of you here by Beavis and others. They have put the facts in your face on many occasions over a long period, that Droobli is a scam. Please leave out the senseless ranting and illogical replies. “Don’t YOU, get it by now Gene”. I guess not.

3232. Comment by beavis | July 20th, 2010

      Casey said:

      “all over the place and makes no sense?”

      Are you talking about Gene’s random cliches and broken sentences or are you referring to his lack of a point? Either way, Gene has pudding for a brain.

3233. Comment by Former MP | July 20th, 2010

      All you can do is wah wah wah. Go cry a different song and do I ever get through? How many times have I wasted time explaining? How many times? So many I’ve lost count. And you dont get it. You guys just dont get it. You really take the cake. Pretending not to understand simple English. Pathetic. I tell you over and over. This is my last post. You guys are pretending to be stupid. I just sit and wonder why your aren’t making the most of your job. So into it. Oh yeah. Listen. Do you guys even know about the auctions? I mean in real numbers. Really now in the making and you think it’s a done deal. If you noticed the products are for anything! I think things have slowed down in everything. It’s slow everywhere. Don’t ya know?

      Think for once! As things turn around and more people know about the auctions they can only get hotter. Really? Do you not underastand what you cant see with your own eyese? You look at fake stats and lies. You can’t go by what’s happening in the prior successful grouping of this company! Parrots!

      Beavis thinks hes so clever with his badgers. Just childish rants. Im here to talk business. And you guys are spoiling dreams of some of these young people. I talk yo lots. I can see right through beav. He can’t even understand the company future plan it’s too complicated for him therefore it can’t work in his mind. Neither can he see that there is a savings in the auctions and wants to try to downgrade something he can’t. You save money by speaning! That’s a well-known principle. The Droobli way creates income streams from millions of customers! Its viral growth! What is not to like about it? You make money 24/7. You guys cant call that a lie? Ive lived it.

      You can understand that the auctions are not the whole deal here he seems to avoid the fact that there’s an online store with reward points for every shopper and the auctions are just a sideline a place to have a little fun shopping. Can you see it? This is a world portal and associates will get click through revenue every time someone clicks on an item whether purchased or not. When I have millions of customers, which you could also, click through my site how
      much money do you think that would generate a day? Then if items are purchased they make a percentage and they get more when they have a downline of associates. They
      also benefit from the downline customer base and not only their own. Now that’s something. What’s hard to understand about that? It’s just free enterprise.

      So Beav finally I get through to you I hope ???? You must need to vent somewhere and this is as good a place as any. So yes take it all with a grain of salt. Now remember these blogs are a gimmick too to draw customers and they’d love you
      to click on the links here but click on mine that shouldn’t be a problem. You could bid on a nice handbag. Brand names too! For under $3000! There is nothing incorrect about the savings here. Of course you will have to spend an 80 cent credit just like everyone else to do so. You can get some free credits when you register and see how it works. Then start buying some credits and tell your friends. You could get more free credits. Make sure you give the correct information at the Droobli site. They wont let you down. You don’t really need to spend time on this blog because they just want attention would I say that? Protecting the public interest is in here and you want click through stuff you can but we shouldn’t be tricked. That’s wrong. Do a little advertising? It is for real people. We have established we in fact, do have a business with an online store haven’t we. No scam whatsoever.

      I give up. Are you getting any of this? How many times? Just read back through my posts and try to understand with your limited imagination. Or ask your mother. LOL. So long.

3234. Comment by Casey | July 20th, 2010

      Well what can I say now!!
      “all over the place and makes no sense?”

      Gene Says:
      “prior successful grouping of this company” It’s never happened to date Gene.
      The only “grouping” are of Giant Badgers on the Badger farm with Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy.

      Beavis asked:
      “Are you talking about Gene’s random cliches and broken sentences or are you referring to his lack of a point? Either way, Gene has pudding for a brain”.
      Yes Beavis, Gene has just proved my point…. Again, with his latest post 3231.
      Gene…. We do get it….It’s a SCAM.

3235. Comment by Garry Trucks | July 20th, 2010

      Gene McNeally has lost it a long time ago. They shouldn’t let the patients play with the laptops.

3236. Comment by Farrugia82 | July 20th, 2010

      What’s with the long, rambling posts that don’t mean anything? Is this MP trying to protect his business or has he got a point? Nothing about Droobli makes sense. Even the explanations sound weird. How do they sign up people? Spend 80 cents to look at prices? Which then go down 25 cents? The company seems to just want to take money off people. What a con.

3237. Comment by Casey | July 20th, 2010

      Gene please explain these two Auctions for us people that don’t get it.
      http://au.droobli.com/Secured-Virtual-Platinum-account-worth-1000__5e_25184
      http://global.droobli.com/Secured-Virtual-Platinum-account-worth-1000__5e_1011
      These links are courtesy of IWasduped at the Whirlpool Forum
      http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1483559&p=2
      These auctions make about as much sense as you Gene… Please explain, in English to our audience. What’s going on??

3238. Comment by beavis | July 20th, 2010

      Casey,

      You haven’t been keeping up with Droobli’s rapidly advancing technology (but who can!?). What you are seeing is Droobli’s world class virtual server farm (they call it “EC2″) running Droobli’s custom software, Random Auction Transaction Simulator! or, as it is affectionately known as, “RATS!”. When you see auction results like those two examples in your post you can be sure it is the handiwork of “RATS!”. In fact, the program is so versatile that the whole company is run by “RATS!”. Bobby Jensen is quoted as saying “we are not just a company that is run by “RATS!”; we are “RATS!”. “RATS!” will lead Droobli into the future and it won’t belong before everybody trusts their online shopping to “RATS!”.

3239. Comment by beavis | July 20th, 2010

      Casey,

      Here is some further information on The “RATS!” program including signs Droobli’s new China launch is about to occur!

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/4688453/Giant-rat-caught-in-China.html

3240. Comment by beavis | July 21st, 2010

      Casey,

      I forgot to mention that Droobli also has another software program for the Droobli Business Associates called “Associate Support System!” or “ASS!” for short. It ties into The Droobli RATS! (“Random Auction Transaction Simulator!”)and it is used for handling the bookkeeping and funds transfer. Droobli BA’s still send in their renewals directly but when it comes to earnings they take it in their “ASS!”. There is also a marketing function for BA’s that let them pull stats out of their “ASS!”. The system is so powerful that most BA’s now make all of their Droobli business decisions with their “ASS!”. One thing you should be aware of is there has been some privacy concerns as it appears Droobli BA’s “ASS!”’s are regularly “visited” by the Droobli Corporate “RATS!” through a backdoor exploit. It’s a “RATS!” add-on module called “Random Auction Transaction Finance Upload Code Kit” or “RATFUCK!” for short. Most Droobli BA”s have been “RATFUCK!”ed by Droobli Corporate on a regular basis.

3241. Comment by Only Facts | July 21st, 2010

      The acronyms are flowing thick and fast now. Beavis, you however forgot Droobli’s innovative business model that we hear (but never see) so much of. It’s known as the
      “Secured Commerce Associated Marketing” program or “SCAM”. You wont hear it used by Droobli due to the negative connotation with the word “Commerce”.

3242. Comment by Casey | July 21st, 2010

      Beavis said:
      “Here is some further information on The “RATS!” program including signs Droobli’s new China launch is about to occur!”

      Your talking to the converted Beavis, I hope Gene and other Drooblidiots have a look and try and “get it”.
      Come back Gene, you really help this forum a lot with your long rambling posts.
      But, I’m not sure which side you are helping?

3243. Comment by kees | July 24th, 2010

      On June 19th beavis wrote:

      —————————–
      comment 3144 Comment by beavis | June 19th, 2010

      Let’s start a pool; which MediocreNet corporate officer or director will be the next to jump ship. I pick Alfredo Fernandez as he has been dumping stock.
      —————————–

      Excellent call, Beavis!

      MEDG Form 8-K
      Filing Date 2010-07-16

      http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1097792/000114420410038170/v190794_8-k.htm

      “On July 15, 2010, MediocreNet Group Technologies, Inc. (the “Company”) terminated the employment of its Chief Financial Officer, Mr. Alfred Fernandez, effective immediately. Mr. Fernandez’ termination is not the result of any disagreement with the Company’s management, operations, policies or practices.”

3244. Comment by karnak beavis | July 24th, 2010

      It appears Martin Burns, CEO of the BSP Rewards division, is starting to divest himself of MediocreNet stock. He owns approx. 20% of the company and has dumped approx. 10% of his position over the course of last month. I think it is finally starting to unwind. My next prediction is to expect an 8k filing on Martin Burns as he will exit the company by 1st quarter of 2011. Expect a bit of downward pressure on Droobli’s thinly traded stock as Burns divests himself.

3245. Comment by kees | July 24th, 2010

      On June 14th beavis wrote:

      ————————-
      Comment 3131 by beavis | June 14th, 2010

      Martin Berns, MediocreNet Director and CEO of the BSP division resigned on June 1st due to “personal reasons”. Bobby Jensen is the new CEO of BSP Rewards. Another rat abandons the sinking ship
      ————————-

      so, I guess “karnak beavis” is not “beavis”…?

      see also

      MEDG Form 8-K
      Filing Date 2010-06-02
      http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1097792/000114420410031434/v187207_8k.htm

      “Martin Berns, a member of the Company’s Board of Directors and CEO of the Company’s wholly owned subsidiary BSP Rewards, Inc., resigned effective June 1, 2010. Mr. Berns indicated his resignation was for personal reasons.”

3246. Comment by beavis | July 24th, 2010

      kees,

      “karnak beavis” is an idiot. I would have already known Martin Berns had parted company with MediocreNet (unless, of course, I was posting while drinking under an alias and forgot about that event; but we all know that is not a possibility). I’m sure “karnak beavis” will not post again as he hangs his head in shame (I’m really, really sure he will not post again). Gene, I need you to post something. . . now. . . right now; you know, the usual Droobli nonsense. Just make it long winded and convoluted. Everybody else, watch the monkey on my shoulder.

3247. Comment by Darryl | July 25th, 2010

      You idiots are costing me customers. Stop dissing Droobli. I can’t sign up anyone. Why not leave this business alone so I can get on and make money? What’s it to you, anyway?

3248. Comment by Jacob | July 25th, 2010

      I actually did sign up for Droobli as a rep and it is a total scam. First off, they are not the only site like they claim they are that does “unique” auctions…there are several out there. But my main complaint, especially directed at you Darryl, is that when my license expired, they would not send me the very small amount of money that I didn’t manage to earn from the few people that I was able to convince to buy credits or sign up. I’m not expecting pay for the money Droobli keeps making off of me after my year license, just for the 1 year I was a rep…I have a long series of emails between me and Droobli and they just simply wont pay me. They said I would have to pay another $175 to renew my license to get the $85 they owe me…explain how that makes any sense. I expect to get paid like any employee would expect to get paid a final paycheck after quitting or getting fired.
      Stay away from Droobli people, most of the reps who were above me and convinced me to get in are already out of it or are just waiting for their licenses to expire…Droobli will die within just a few years or less for sure.

3249. Comment by Jay | July 25th, 2010

      I believe that the Beatles wrote a song about droobli:

      “Nowhere, Man”

3250. Comment by beavis | July 25th, 2010

      Darryl,

      One of the requirements to become successful in Droobli is to beg and grovel for our silence; squeeling and whining is not the same. Oh, and remember to swallow. . .

3251. Comment by Casey | July 26th, 2010

      “Mr. Fernandez’ termination is not the result of any disagreement with the Company’s management, operations, policies or practices.” BULLSHIT

3252. Comment by Casey | July 26th, 2010

      Jacob said, “…explain how that makes any sense”. Jacob ….nothing about Droobli makes sense mate. (Oh,except for michael Jenson….It makes perfect sense to him).

3253. Comment by Casey | July 26th, 2010

      Jacob said “…Droobli will die within just a few years or less for sure.” Jacob….It was never alive to die. It was an afterbirth.

3254. Comment by Former MP | July 26th, 2010

      This my final post because Im wasting my time trying to tell you the truth. No one reads this site anyway and you have Droobli ads here so thats how well-known the product is. You cant even get that right. Its so sad how you are beav. You have a miserable life, so what. Let others make their own choice about MLM opportunities. Its the gowth industry of the future. It will be how america shops within 18 months and Droobli will lead the way. I told I saw the graphs. Those are real facts. But you guys never listen.

      The Droobli model makes sense. If you see this blog more and just see the scampedia dopes that come on here. You really are parrots! Yeah believing everything beavis says. That aint no joke. Okay be a loser. What has beavis got to show for his life? What wrong with success? This the new Scamapedia. They tell all about accomplishments. Look around and see its a con. Droobli is a real company with responsiblity. Still going to nothing. Everyone can see through you guys beav/eagle. Need some more help here? OK. Now you want to complain about a company you haven’t even experienced. Hey go ahead register and try the auctions with free credits. Just let me know you want them. Go to Live Liberty. The name says you can be free. But you won’t know unless you try. A lot of big talkers here but not tried it out have you? If everyone sits on their hands it most surely will and then what? You dont know business ma. Its a viral business thats global and new markets are changing this thing. Thats right Droobli changes with the times. Global e commerce merges with the old economy. Hey hows that? Help me out here. Is there something wrong with doing commerce on the net? I don’t need to go over it again for your benefit. I did my damage here. You like to prop up lies don’t you? You people have said things about me but Ill give you free credits. I really want you to succeed. Its always win win with droobli. Everyones making money. Why not take a risk? Dont think but jump in. Hows that?

      Obviously you are taking the company seriously. We target network marketers. Yup that is what they say. You want leads come to me. Cheap shots and what you quoted is still true but you missed the following auctions and a shop that rewards you. Also be aware, blogs scam most everything you can imagine in order to get you to click on their google adwords so don’t be fooled. For you moms this is a great home based business. If you really want to work from home what could be a better option for your kids? And many non-profit organizations where you can also have your own personalized web page that you can design yourself with the templates we have, powered by GroobLi to make money for yourSo that’s it you want us to give away making money off of someone.

      There ya go supporting the press again. I tell you there are no complaints from customer. At least that I know of O F spin dope. Why is it you don’t give your name? So you gamble in the lotteries. I don’t believe I have ever ever bought into that. I work hard for my money.

      Facts and or statistics. People buy products, get good deals who are happy customers and associates make a lot of money. Something I missed. This is Droobli everyone is happy. Long post I know but you can make it if you try. Its the opportunity of your life. Ive talked to lots of folks and droobli is going strong everywhere but thats global business. Its recession proof. causes. Yes, you can have your own Internet store with your own spin factored in on how you present it. This is perfect if you already have an organization be it your work place, business, shop, office, where you have your own close knit group that can take advantage of this unique online purchasing place and thats that.

      My final post parrots. beavis doesnt know business. Listen to me I have years of experience making these things work. Im not a one man band.

3255. Comment by Ernie Rothschild | July 26th, 2010

      Crazy post from crazy Gene. I love him and miss him. But hey I’ll stop by the McNeally place in Douglas Nebraska one day and just hi. “Don’t you know”. What a corny guy but he lives his own reality.

3256. Comment by Sinking Ship | July 26th, 2010

      Looks like we finally have an heir to Switzer’s Droobli-Land empire…

      Just got this email from the lucky lads that thought it would be a wise business decision to take over the kingdom Jason was building

      ———

      Dear All,

      Myself, Sam Fawahl and Adam Marks (Proven Path To Success) & (Team Stampede) would like to introduce ourselves as we have recently acquired Tom Rozof and Jason Switzer (Social Media Technologies) BA Number: 9495046 Sales Director position within the Droobli Business Network.

      We are extremely excited that we have moved into this position and look forward to working closely with everybody in the team.

      Myself, Sam and Adam all have experience in building, supporting and developing network styled businesses and have been in various successful businesses together for the last 11 years. We are based in Melbourne, Australia but are committed to building our business globally.

      We are totally committed to helping people achieve and realise their dreams and goals through the Droobli business opportunity as we believe this is the greatest opportunity out there.

      We are going to be doing this by bringing some exciting business building tools that all the team can use to build their business.

      Lead Generation:

      We have been trialling and testing a Real Time Lead Generation System which now they are ready to go.

      Imagine having 5,6,7 or even 15 people to speak to about this business everyday.

      1. People that have an interest in a Home Based Business.

      2. People that have taken the time to research the internet and make an inquiry.

      3. People that are expecting a call from someone like yourself and get information.

      Lead Management Program:

      We are in the final stage of having a Lead Management program that will give you the ability to manage and stay in communication with all your leads.

      Social Networking and Resource site:

      We are in the process of having our own totally Droobli focused Social Networking and Resource site. This will be a central point where as a BA in Team Stampede you will have access to all the tools and all the latest information we will be providing. This will be a great site where you can become a part of a like minded community and communicate with them on a daily basis.

      Team Calls:

      We currently conduct weekly Team calls in Australia and will be doing the same for US and Europe as well. These calls are designed to help you build your business through education and motivation.

      Droobli is revolutionising the online shopping industry forever with the launch of the Droobli Global, Droobli Entertainment and other exciting developments.

      So this is definitely the right time to start running with your business.

      We are in search for leaders who want to step up and run with us. We will help these individuals build their business through working closely with them. If you are interested in building your business and taking advantage of these exciting times, then get in contact with us and “JOIN THE STAMPEDE” .

      We believe this opportunity is not to be repeated and looking forward to celebrating all the success with you.

      Our contact details are as Follows:

      Bassem Tal

      Cell: +61412132222

      Email: bassemtal@bigpond.com

      Skype: bassem.tal

      Adam Marks

      Cell: +61434312326

      Email: adam@provenpathtosuccess.com

      Skype: tamarks

      Sam Fawahl

      Cell: +61421927476

      Email: sam@provenpathtosuccess.com

      Skype: samfawahl

      To your success

      regards,

      Bassem Tal

      Sales Director

      Telephone: +613 9010 5788

      Mobile: +614 1213 2222

      Email: bassemtal@bigpond.com

      http://www.drooblinetwork.com/9495046

      http://www.livedroobli.com

      “The new ebay… and it’s growing like twitter!!!”

3257. Comment by Kel Abrahms | July 26th, 2010

      Have you googled “Gene McNeally”? The guy sells so many different snake oils it ain’t funny. He sells airline tickets, chaga mushrooms, iPads, gencol, ibuzzpro, sounds for your website and, oh, droobli junk.

      He’s the classic middle man. Each of his businesses must be doing badly since he doesn’t need to hire anyone else with his 30+ businesses.

      This guy is amazing selling cancer cures. He’s lucky I don’t live in Nebraska.

3258. Comment by Casey | July 26th, 2010

      Gene said, blah blah blah and,
      “The Droobli model makes sense”. How does it make sense Gene when you are trying to explain it?
      and
      “Yes, you can have your own Internet store with your own spin factored in on how you present it.”
      Thanks Gene, The “master of spin”. Senseless spin.

3259. Comment by beavis | July 27th, 2010

      Yes, I have to say this has been going on way too long with Gene for him not to aknowledge that Droobli is both a scam and a failure. He had to have renewed by now which puts him into a truly special catagory. Most BA’s figure this out before they pony up for another copper/silver/gold plan. Just dumb.

3260. Comment by beavis | July 27th, 2010

      This is Gene. . .
      this is Barry Bonds. . .
      and this is the Stupid Stick. . .

      wack, wack, wack, Wack, Wack, Wack, WACKWACKWACK!!!!!!

3261. Comment by Texarse | July 31st, 2010

      From my post (#3209) on the 15th of July, 2010.

      “From a high of 90 cents on the 15th of December, to 29 cents as at today. This after the Australian launch and the announcement of the Australian re-launch.”

      “Today at 7.45 pm, CST, there were 129 live auctions at au.droobli.com, 222 live auctions at us.droobli.com and 130 live auctions at eu.droobli.com. 481 in total, across the entire world.”

      Well, today 1st of August, 2010, MEDG is worth 26 cents a share, a decrease of 3 cents in 2 weeks.

      And at the same time, across the entire world, the millions of drooblidiots are engaged in furious bidding wars for a total of 512 items. 157 in au.droobli, 103 in eu.droobli and 252 in us.droobli. That’s an “exploded” increase of 33 items in the same time period.

      At this rate, MEDG stock will be worth nothing in 4 and a half months and the number of items available to bid on will reach 70,000 (roughly the number of pokemon cards available on e-bay) in a mere 81 years!

      And, you’ll only have to sign up 81 more times to reap the benefit of this “exploded”. What’s the cost of renewing your Gold membership 81 times ($243,000) when compared with the riches that await you!

      Of course, nay-sayers, people who are using stinking-thinking, quitters and those who don’t “get it” will still think “scam”.

      But, if you are following Steve Zammit’s advice, you won’t be worried, because you didn’t get into droobli, to unfortunately, get rich quick.

      Remember, ebay and amazon and google started slowly and look where they are today! If droobli starts even slower, there’s no telling how big they’ll be in only 81 years!

3262. Comment by beavis | July 31st, 2010

      All hail Steve Zammit!

3263. Comment by Bob Dole | August 2nd, 2010

      Why do you guys keep going? Droobli is over isn’t it? There’s no need to talk about it, is there? Everyone knows what a stupid idea it was.

3264. Comment by Casey | August 2nd, 2010

      Bob said
      “Why do you guys keep going? Droobli is over isn’t it? There’s no need to talk about it, is there? Everyone knows what a stupid idea it was.”
      Seems like Gene, AKA Former MP, etc. has not heard the news yet?
      GENE, Bob said it’s all over???? What happened????
      GENE, When will the Afterbirth (Droobli) launch again????
      Must be China’s turn again???

3265. Comment by Sad Clown | August 3rd, 2010

      Droobli makes me sad. Real sad. It’s just another horrible get rich quick scheme appealing to desperate little men who dream of making Daddy proud by being a success. It is so sad. Bobby Jensen makes a crazy scheme and so many have to suffer. The drooblidiots are like Willy Loman in “Death of a Salesman” – pathetic creatures who are destined (like big talking Gene McNeally from Douglas, Nebraska) to spend their lives chasing ridiculous get rich quick scheme. They are horrible sad people. They spend their time going to seminars and getting worked up about another new shopping middle man on the block. Droobli is totally unnecessary. The idea is exploitative and stupid.

      So sad. Pathetic. I wish I could meet Bobby Jensen without his ubiquitous body guards. So many ex-drooblidiots want to kill him. I just want to vent my anger at one of the world’s worst human beings. He uses people. He destroys people. And all the while they build their business empires based on cotton candy. It is indeed a sad joke.

      And this clown doesn’t laugh at Droobli anymore. It’s a terrible story of the destruction of the human spirit.

3266. Comment by Charlie | August 3rd, 2010

      You guys are back, Thank Goodness, I’ve missed you all so much, Still in Maui and still speaking for everyone in the state of Hawaii,, Droobli Blows!

3267. Comment by Casey | August 3rd, 2010

      Charlie said
      “Droobli Blows!” I assume you mean Droobli blows up?
      It’ a DUDD so Droobli can’t blow up!

3268. Comment by Bob | August 3rd, 2010

      Where is Bobby Jensen?
      He is like Osama Bin Laden…we are looking for him now.

3269. Comment by beavis | August 4th, 2010

      We haven’t heard from any new Drooblionaires lately. No tales of of magical downlines that grow virally and make money whilst one sleeps. No announcements of newly qualified Executive VP’s winning Breitling watches, Bently automobiles or homes in Cayman Brac. It just doesn’t make sense. Gene, can you help us here; where are the big producers? Where are the true believers that went from rags to riches in Droobli? Are we waiting for something? Is there another “launch” that will make it all right? Never mind, I answered my own question; Droobli will undoubtably have another “launch” that will be “the one”. You, know, “the one” we should all join Droobli before it occurs so we can become instant millionaires. er. . . I meant “Drooblionaires”.

3270. Comment by "The End" by The Doors | August 5th, 2010

      This is the end. The last post on this forum. Good luck to you all as you move on in your lives and go and do something perhaps a little more meaningful. Stop wasting your lives. Get out and do something productive. Take up a new hobby. What about golf lessons? Learn a language. Anything but coming here each day. Boring.

      Move along everybody. Nothing to see here. Beavis go away and impress your cat.

      Do not write anymore posts or I will be very angry. Do you understand soldier?

      This is the last post. And I Bernard Schwarz have done it.

3271. Comment by beavis | August 5th, 2010

      I have a dog.

3272. Comment by "The End" by The Doors | August 6th, 2010

      I said this is the final post and I meant it. Don’t get me riled. Everyone just find something else to do, especially Beavis. He really needs a life. Now Beavis I don’t want to see your name on a post again. It’s not healthy.

3273. Comment by Casey | August 6th, 2010

      Shite…. Now there’s a clown on the forum.
      mmmm What are you doing here wasting your time?
      “The End” for you.

3274. Comment by beavis | August 6th, 2010

      Casey said:

      “Shite…. Now there’s a clown on the forum.”

      He probably bought “gold” level and his last ten attempts to recruit blew up in his face because the potential victims Googled “Droobli+scam” and read this site.

      To “The End” by The Doors:

      How do you feel about badgers?

3275. Comment by The End | August 8th, 2010

      Cut it out guys. This hobby is over. You trolls need to get a life. Droobli’s finished. Your stupid activities had nothing to do with it. How about trying to improve your minds? You guys are like immature little kids. Move on morons. Especially you Beavis. What a loser.

3276. Comment by beavis | August 8th, 2010

      The End,

      You did buy a “Gold” package didn’t you?

3277. Comment by beavis | August 8th, 2010

      The End,

      It’s OK. We understand. . .

3278. Comment by Texarse | August 9th, 2010

      Over? Over? Surely not! What about Australia? Isn’t it about to explode here?

      If you’ve come to this website, looking for information about droobli being a scam, then, you need to know about Steve Zammit’s criteria for success! Remember, Steve Zammit is making “decent money” in droobli, and you can emulate him just by looking at this:

      1. It’s important to join an already successful group who know how to build the group and are business savvy.
      2. Have been in business before, because droobli is no different to any other business.
      2. No, wait, you can come into droobli without having been in business before. Because droobli is no different to any other business. But make sure you follow business savvy people.
      3. Work hard.
      4. Have good support and a system.
      5. Think long term.
      6. Don’t join droobli if you want to get rich quick. If you do, this is unfortunate.
      7. Be tough in direct selling.
      8. Be one of the 5% to make “decent money”. 95% of people in droobli won’t own any wealth, just like in the real world. You’ll maybe only earn part time wealth.
      9. Don’t read into company financials. They won’t make any difference.
      10. If you are investing in droobli in Australia, be prepared to wait 2-5 years for droobli’s goals to be reached.

      So, droobli isn’t over, you just have to wait 2-5 years, that’s all. But, that’s okay, because if you’ve come into droobli to get rich quick, you’ll just end up being one of the 95% who won’t own any wealth.

      Oh. Don’t bother keeping an eye on company financials, that won’t make any difference. Of course, in the meantime, you can always watch Media Group stock losing money here:

      http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/dynamic_charting.aspx?selected=MEDG&symbol=MEDG&timeframe=max&charttype=line

      (It seems to have put on 6 cents in the last week… Any one sensible want to hazard a guess why?)

3279. Comment by Texarse | August 9th, 2010

      Oh.

      If some of you want to contact MediocreNet Group, why not visit their contact page?

      http://www.medianetgroup.com/contact/

      Feel free to ask questions like:

      “What’s the difference between a ponzi scheme and droobli?”
      “When do you expect to be bigger than e-bay? Anytime soon?”
      “Why is your stock worth half what it was worth 8 months ago?”
      “Why, after such exploded in Europe, the US and Australia, are their only a handful of auctions on your website?”
      “Why does it seem like the only people winning the auctions are your BAs cashing out their droobli points before they become valueless?”
      “Can I get my money back?”
      “Where can I serve subpoenas on the office holders of the company?”

      Mention this website and receive 5,000 “free” droobli points!*

      *Offer not valid

3280. Comment by Mark | August 11th, 2010

      hi Texarse and Bevis such learned gentlemen and businessmen GroobLi is like any business it has to be BUILT be it 2 years 5 years whatever it takes, the business model is sound it actually makes sense and you build it like a BUSINESS ,that is yes it does go up and down and we dont make instant riches but 100k in 12 months is OK I am happy with that, Business people stay with it they dont behave like school girls we are mature and we are focused and GroobLi is a good model,miss it at your peril.love your immature rants all the best for your meningful lives.
      Mark

3281. Comment by Only Facts | August 11th, 2010

      Mark.

      What is the Business Model, and what makes it sound?

3282. Comment by beavis | August 12th, 2010

      Only Facts and Mark,

      As a I am part of the group of “learned gentlemen and businessmen” I would like to make you both a “porposition” (historically, a “porposition” is a combination of a “proposition” and, well, a “porpoise”; which I shall explain in detail at a later time; on second thought, I believe it was a typo). Regardless (or “irregardless” for you grammer Natzis), I find it hard to believe Only Facts’ research on Droobli as he doesn’t get the big picture. Simply looking at how money is being made, or not being made in the case of Droobli, doesn’t tell the whole story. Mark “get’s it”; he’s on the “cutting edge” and will no doubt somewhat exceed the paltry numbers of $100,000 a year should he restrict himself to selling Droobli. The “bottom line” is only one of you is prime Badger Farm material and I don’t doubt that everyone here knows who that is. Mark, you and I need to talk.

      http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/images/wi/WIBIRbadger.jpg

3283. Comment by Texarse | August 12th, 2010

      Well, thank you Mark for your insight into droobli.

      If you’ve come here trying to find the truth about droobli, not only to you have Steve Zammit giving you the good oil, you also have “Mark” and his… creative use of English.

      Here are some hard-earned truths about droobli, courtesy of Mark.

      “You dont make instant riches.”

      So, if the BA who was recruiting you promised instant wealth, then they are obviously lying.

      “droobli is like any business.”

      So, if the BA who was recruiting you told you that it was a unique opportunity, or that it was like no other business, then they are obviously lying.

      “Like any business, droobli has to be BUILT.”

      So, if the BA who was recruiting you told you that droobli would build itself and the money would roll in, then they are obviously lying.

      “Business people stay with it.”

      So, if the BA who was recruiting you told you that anyone could make money in droobli and you don’t have to be a business man, then they are obviously lying.

      “[building it] takes 2 years… 5 years”

      So, if the BA who was recruiting you told you that they were making $100,000-00 in 12 months, or that droobli exploding somewhere else in the world, then they are obviously lying.

      Remember, Mark, like Steve Zammit, isn’t a behaving like a school girl, he is a mature businessman. He “gets it”.

      He not gonna “fake it ’til he makes it”. There’s no “stinking thinking” for him. He’s not going to get disillusioned, decide not to renew after 12 months and then hastily use up all his BA points in the auctions before they become worthless.

      Oh no!

      He knows that it’s going to take a lot of hard work and that, despite the business model being sound and making sense, it does go down.

      Don’t be swayed by beavis, who is just trying to make his giant badger ponzi scheme just big enough so that it’s bought out by ebay, put your faith in droobli, which has just exploded from 33 cents a share yesterday to 27 cents a share today. That’s a massive loss of only 6 cents! Who knew exploding could be so damaging?

3284. Comment by iwasduped | August 12th, 2010

      Mark

      The lines you use are so familiar. My upline used them as well. The ‘learned’ people who conduct the webinars all sound the same and I was mighty impressed in the beginning. Droobli was my new baby and I was going to nurture it and see it grow into a sack of money even if it took 2-5 years. Then the light came on…………………………….how come no one is using the site?….so few products?……………where were all these millions of customers we got to hear about particularly after the ‘global launch’?………..hmmm, something aint right!!!
      All you need do is to go on the site (as I do daily) and observe.
      • How come the same buyers who are BA’s (I can count them on one hand) are winning the Unique Bids Auctions?
      • Why would any legit customer settle for the average 0-10% saving on most purchases they make? Heck, I can go to a store and get the same products on sale for less the cost.
      • Why would someone by a $90 web cam, save $9 and then spend the $9 on shipping?
      And now for the real juicy stuff….. here are FACTS on the movement of the greater than ebay auctions. Just to be fair, I have used examples of a variety of products. If you wish to verify this info, I have the ID numbers which I wont list here now,
      1. nokia n97 Retail Value $529.00 ….. After 8days & 16hrs = $473.50 = 10% saving
      2. $300 Visa Value $346.00 …. After 2days & 12 hrs = $322.50 = 7% saving. If I was to buy this now, I would have to pay $5.00 shipping and then lose 1% for all transaction fees!!!!
      3. Acer Laptop Retail Value $499.00…………..After 12days & 21hrs = $436.75 = 12% saving. I checked this one again and after 13days & 22hrs = $435.50 (I am the one who clicked on it to get it reduced by $1.25!!!!!!!!!!
      4. AND NOW FOR THE BEST…………………..
      Trip to Nassau Retail Value $2,350.00 and after 43days 19hrs = $2290.00 = 3% saving
      Geeee I wonder where all the customers are?
      Also, Mark, to have earned $100k in 12 months, you must have a huge number of BA’s signed up….. do you feel any guilt in making them lose money?

      I even used approx 30 credits to do my research, how’s that for dedication ?

      Beavis and Texarse………….keep plugging away, this thing has gotta die!!!!!

3285. Comment by Texarse | August 12th, 2010

      Thanks, iwasduped. I’m just an ordinary Australian guy who got a droobli flyer in his letter-box who, after reading it, though “This sounds horridly like a scam” and did about 3 minutes research on the net and discovered this site.

      I just hope that someone who is approached by a BA trying to recruit them does the same thing and comes across this site.

      The few moments I spend rubbishing droobli here is worth it if it makes only one person go… “Waaaaaaait a minute…”

      I’ll send you a PM on whirlpool.

3286. Comment by Charlie | August 13th, 2010

      Does anyone know if there is any kind of law suit going against Droobli, back in the day i signed up for $800 and then signed up two people here in Maui for the same, after i realized we’d been scammed I payed the two BA’s I’d recruited their money back. I’d love to hurt Droobli anyway possible, if anyone knows call me (808) 264-7114

3287. Comment by kees | August 13th, 2010

      So, we’ve now got a Droobli-eu, Droobli-us, Droobli-au and Droobli-global.

      Each customer will be assigned to a specific Droobli site according to their geographic location (as was explained in some recent Droobli newsletter)

      When you’re not living in EU, US or AU/NZ you will be assigned to the Droobli-global site.

      So, how come I see the same names over and over again on ALL four Dibli sites in the completed auctions?

      Here’s just 2 examples, user names “jackahayes” and “Bwana”.

      ——————-

      Some Xpress auctions recently won by “jackahayes”:

      Droobli-eu:
      $350 Amazon.com Email Gift Card
      http://eu.droobli.com/350-Amazoncom-Email-Gift-Card__5e_15723

      Droobli-us:
      $350 Amazon.com Email Gift Card
      us.droobli.com/350-Amazoncom-Email-Gift-Card__5e_15786

      Droobli-au:
      $350 Amazon.com Email Gift Card
      au.droobli.com/350-Amazoncom-Email-Gift-Card__5e_25497

      Droobli-global:
      $350 Amazon.com Email Gift Card
      global.droobli.com/350-Amazoncom-Email-Gift-Card__5e_1262

      ——————-

      Some Xpress auctions recently won by “Bwana”:

      Droobli-eu:
      $100 Avis Rental Car Certificate
      eu.droobli.com/100-Avis-Rental-Car-Certificate__5e_15443

      Droobli-us:
      $100 Avis Rental Car Certificates
      us.droobli.com/100-Avis-Rental-Car-Certificates__5e_15212

      Droobli-au:
      $100 Avis Rental Car Certificates
      au.droobli.com/100-Avis-Rental-Car-Certificates__5e_25021

      Droobli-global:
      $100 Avis Rental Car Certificates
      global.droobli.com/100-Avis-Rental-Car-Certificates__5e_1021

      ——————-

      Isn’t that a bit strange…? Droobli BA’s?

3288. Comment by kees | August 13th, 2010

      … apparently just a rumour… but:

      Droobli Class Action Lawsuit?
      Posted on 12. Aug, 2010 by Ty Tribble in Network Marketing News

      http://mlmblog.net/2010/08/droobli-class-action-lawsuit.html
      —————————–
      “A reputable source tells me that auction MLM company, Droobli will be facing a class action lawsuit to be filed some time in August from some of it’s largest distributors.

      Droobli has an auction site business model with a twist…the auctions go in reverse with the price of the product going down as you bid, but you pay for credits that allow you place your bid.

      However, I am being told that most of the income and revenues have come from recruiting, (if true, a classic element of a pyramid scheme).

      I will post additional details as they come in.”
      —————————–

      

3289. Comment by Bob | August 13th, 2010

      Not a rumor…(laughing).
      Anyone still pitching GroobLi needs to proceed with extreme caution. You do not want to be culpable.

3290. Comment by beavis | August 13th, 2010

      There is safety in marketing badgers; no one messes with badgers.

3291. Comment by kees | August 13th, 2010

      More VERY strange results from the Droobli completed auctions pages.

      Winning bidders: “iMarket Malls LLC” and “teacher”.

      ——————————————–

      “iMarket Malls LLC” wins:

      $400 VISA Gift Card

      # droobli-au:
      Sold for: AU $103.40 ( ~ 72,41 € )

      # droobli-us:
      Sold for: $103.40 ( ~ 80,84 € )

      # droobli-eu:
      Sold for: 103,40 €

      # droobli-global:
      Sold for: $103.40 ( ~ 80,79 € )

      ——————————————–

      “teacher” wins:

      1000 Credit bids/Free Bids 1000

      # droobli-au:
      Sold for: AU $253.20 ( ~ 177,31 € )

      # droobli-us:
      Sold for: $253.20 ( ~ 197,97 € )

      # droobli-eu:
      Sold for: 253,20 €

      # droobli-global:
      Sold for: $253.20 ( ~ 197,83 € )

      ——————————————–

      Completed (unique bid) auctions urls for droobli-au/us/eu/global:

      http://au.droobli.com/index.php?cid=unique-bid.ended&items_per_page=100&page=1
      http://us.droobli.com/index.php?cid=unique-bid.ended&items_per_page=100&page=1
      http://eu.droobli.com/index.php?cid=unique-bid.ended&items_per_page=100&page=1
      http://global.droobli.com/index.php?cid=unique-bid.ended&items_per_page=100&page=1

      screenshot:
      http://i35.tinypic.com/2mqrkmg.jpg

      ——————————————–

      Anyone notice anything weird here?

3292. Comment by kees | August 13th, 2010

      More VERY strange results from the Droobli completed auctions pages.

      Winning bidders: “iMarket Malls LLC” and “teacher”.

      ——————————————–

      “iMarket Malls LLC” wins:

      $400 VISA Gift Card

      # droobli-au:
      Sold for: AU $103.40 ( ~ 72,41 € )

      # droobli-us:
      Sold for: $103.40 ( ~ 80,84 € )

      # droobli-eu:
      Sold for: 103,40 €

      # droobli-global:
      Sold for: $103.40 ( ~ 80,79 € )

      ——————————————–

      “teacher” wins:

      1000 Credit bids/Free Bids 1000

      # droobli-au:
      Sold for: AU $253.20 ( ~ 177,31 € )

      # droobli-us:
      Sold for: $253.20 ( ~ 197,97 € )

      # droobli-eu:
      Sold for: 253,20 €

      # droobli-global:
      Sold for: $253.20 ( ~ 197,83 € )

      ——————————————–

      Completed (unique bid) auctions urls for droobli-au/us/eu/global:

      au.droobli.com/index.php?cid=unique-bid.ended&items_per_page=100&page=1

      us.droobli.com/index.php?cid=unique-bid.ended&items_per_page=100&page=1

      eu.droobli.com/index.php?cid=unique-bid.ended&items_per_page=100&page=1

      global.droobli.com/index.php?cid=unique-bid.ended&items_per_page=100&page=1

      screenshot:
      http://i35.tinypic.com/2mqrkmg.jpg

      ——————————————–

      Anyone notice anything weird here?

3293. Comment by beavis | August 14th, 2010

      kees, kees, kees. . .

      You just don’t get it. Droobli has moved ahead of all of the competition by linking all of its’ auctions together through a series of tubes. Now they can be everywhere at once. If only Al Gore had thought of this he would not have invented the Internet.

3294. Comment by kees | August 14th, 2010

      Ahhhh, so that must also explain the AU $103.40 = US $103.40 = EU €103,40 and the AU $253.20 = US $253.20 = EU €253.20 then.

      Their global interlinking tubes have erased all currency differences!

      Right? Brilliant!

3295. Comment by Texaco | August 14th, 2010

      Is it just me, or does iMarket Malls LLC sound like a business that someone might set up after having been told that NOW was the time to get on board on the internet’s newest, unique business that would soon rival ebay, amazon, google and so forth and what was $3,000-00 compared to the vast riches that were soon to be coming your way.

      And, again, is it just me, or does the actions of iMarket Malls LLC in buying item after item look like the actions of someone who, after having been told all of this and after having paid $3,000-00 and waited 11 months and 28 days for these vast riches to materialise, decides that it’s all a scam and a fraud and just wants to rid themselves of soon-to-be-worthless points so that they’ve got SOMETHING to show for it?

      Or am I just a dyed-in-the-wool cynic?

3296. Comment by Texarse | August 14th, 2010

      Sorry, that last comment was from me… Mere slip of the finger on the keyboard.

3297. Comment by Former MP | August 16th, 2010

      You guys are something else. Same old garbage. But your words mean nothing. Droobli is going strong in 60 countries. I’ve got millions of customers, don’t you know because that’s the Droobli model. You don’t understand e commerce. Droobli is viral. Everyday at least 50, 000 new customers. By October 100,000 new customers will be created every day. You can’t stop it Beave. You guys are pathetic. You know nothing. Well why doncha just get out of the way and let us motivated people just slip on through to great wealth. Don’t block this thing. Get on board yourselves. Despite all the lies Im making plenty from Droobli and thats the bottom line. I didn’t think Id be back but with all the lies you’ve been spreading it’s a disgrace. I don’t know how you all live with your conscience. By the way, I’ve moved interstate so no one needs to call up anymore and try to come around. I don’t live in Nebraska anymore.

3298. Comment by beavis | August 16th, 2010

      At what stage did you leve Nebraska, Gene; pre-tar and feathering or post tar and feathering?

3299. Comment by Texarse | August 17th, 2010

      Millions of customers? Really? That doesn’t gel with the number of auctions I’m seeing world-wide on droobli.

      Of course, if you consider that the number of people on the internet who might accidentally find the droobli site, could be customers, they might number in the millions.

      Or, maybe it’s a new sort of auction that’s exploded all over the place… the “silent auction”.

3300. Comment by Charlie | August 17th, 2010

      This site was more fun when Droobli was actually a possibility, but now it’s just sad,,

3301. Comment by Casey | August 18th, 2010

      Hey Former MP, AKA Gene.
      Did the folk of Nebraska finally wake up to you and realise what a scammer you really are and they ran your butt out of town and threw you over the state line. Haaaaa. Was the last straw Droobli, or the cancer curing Chaba Mushrooms you were peddling?
      Droobli is a big joke like you, and they too will be run out of the real World soon.

3302. Comment by kees | August 19th, 2010

      Droobli’s still messing with their “testimonials”:
      http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?r=25489649#r25489649

3303. Comment by kees | August 19th, 2010

      Droobli-happy-customer “Blouder” from the US is now sporting the exact same picture as EU happy-customer “meisterin”, and US customer “Luckycharm” now looks identical to EU customer “global-ebiz”…. Amazing!

      And earlier on in the year, “Blouder” and “Luckycharm” had completely different photos again.

      Here’s a screenshot of all variations together:
      http://i34.tinypic.com/2i8izgw.jpg

      

3304. Comment by beavis | August 19th, 2010

      kees,

      I knew they had something up their sleaves; no one would be stupid enough to buy into the Droobli model if all it consisted of was a lame auction model and MLM scam. Apparently Droobli is way more advanced then we thought being as they are now able to clone their own customer base. Soon we will be the minority as the Droobli labs create more and more of their shopper clones. Gene was right; they are unstoppable.

3305. Comment by kees | August 20th, 2010

      Haha, that’s a good one, yeah, they’re so advanced they’re cloning their own customers for all their global sites

3306. Comment by Former MP | August 20th, 2010

      You folks make me sick with all your lies. You just dont get the ecommerce revolution. Sit at your crummy jobs and let the business builders get on with it. By the way chaga works. read the reports. Improve your health with chaga. American doctors are stupid thats why it isnt available in all states. You cant even drink real milk anymore. WAKE UP PEOPLE.

3307. Comment by beavis | August 20th, 2010

      Former MP said:

      “American doctors are stupid”

      Yes, Gene, and that is why we look up to for your superior wisdom. Everyone knows American doctors are mentally inferior to MLM hucksters. And when it comes to chaga mushrooms, forget testing in controlled environments; if you say it works, Gene, it must be true. After all, it’s not like you would sell snake oil. By the way, how are the fake auctions doing? In case you haven’t read, MediocreNet stock (Droobli parent company) has plumetted to below 20 cents a share. I think you need to single handedly recruit another million customers to prop up the company. Without you stepping up I have a feeling the quarterly report is going to be uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugly

3308. Comment by Texarse | August 21st, 2010

      Yes’m, 18 and a half cents a share.

      I wonder what google is doing? $462.02 a share.

      Amazon? $127.76 a share.

      Ebay? $23.37.

      droobli’s price per share looks like a rounding error compared to the rest… If I’d've invested in droobli, I’d be feeling mighty ill right about now, mushrooms or no mushrooms.

3309. Comment by beavis | August 21st, 2010

      The real indicator is the market cap of 5.29 million dollars for MediocreNet vs. 30.67 billion for eBay. To paraphrase Jack Palance, “eBay craps bigger than Droobli”.

3310. Comment by Casey | August 21st, 2010

      Former MP AKA Gene.
      Firstly, You make us all sick with all your lies.
      Secondly, You have never been able to PROVE to us that Droobli is not a scam?
      Thirdly,”chaga works. read the reports”.
      Knowing the way you think I would say that YOU are the author of those reports!!
      You come here saying that we are liars but you are unable to substantiate those claim?
      Come back when you can show us the hard facts? otherwise stop spruiking here ya clown.
      PS. I am retired in Thailand and have all the time to try and stop as many people as possible in being scammed by you and Droobli… The evidence is all here about dubious Droobli, now go find a rock and hide under it.

3311. Comment by Bill | August 22nd, 2010

      I have a couple of grand tied up in Droobli credits can I get any of this back?

3312. Comment by Texarse | August 23rd, 2010

      Bill. Can I suggest that you go here http://www.medianetgroup.com/contact/

      ask them if you can get your money back.

      If you _do_ get a response, feel free to ask these questions as well…

      “What’s the difference between a ponzi scheme and droobli?”
      “When do you expect to be bigger than e-bay? Anytime soon?”
      “Why is your stock worth much less than half of what it was worth 8 months ago?”
      “Why, after such exploded in Europe, the US and Australia, are there only a handful of auctions on your website?”
      “Why does it seem like the only people winning the auctions are your BAs cashing out their droobli points before they become valueless?”
      “Where can I serve subpoenas on the office holders of the company?”

      Mention this website and receive 5,000 “free” droobli points!*

      Or, failing that, just go to the droobli auctions and get rid of all your points bidding down items that actually have some intrinsic value. Lots of BAs do it, apparently.

      *Offer not valid

3313. Comment by Only Facts | August 23rd, 2010

      Bill

      In relation to receiving a refund from Droobli, the following has proven to be the most successful.

      There is a section within the Droobli terms and conditions that states (paraphrasing) that the Business Associate is responsible for any claims made against the company. So always approached your upline.

      If the person who signed you up supplied any claim(s) in writing, ask them now for independent proof of the claim(s). If they cannot do not ask, demand your money back. Always use the term “Financial gain through misrepresentation”.

      If they did not supply anything in writing (this is extremely rare) then take a screen shot of their Droobli page. The chances are it will have claims such as “growing faster than Ebay every did, millions of customers and successful in Europe and US. Once you have this screen shot again ask for the proof and use the term “Financial gain through misrepresentation”.

      If either of these are not appropriate, try and remember back to when they gave you their pitch. Remember what verbal claims they made, then email reminding them about the claims. Again asking for proof. There response will dictate where to go from there.

      Always make the threat directly to your upline, Not Droobli, and remind them about the terms and conditions.

      Feel free to complain to Fair Trading, or your countries equivalent.

      Without more specific information, this is the best I offer. It has worked in the past.

3314. Comment by beavis | August 23rd, 2010

      Spelling “Financial gain through misrepresentation” on their front lawns with a backhoe will get their attention, too.

3315. Comment by Former MP | August 28th, 2010

      You guys take the cake. You have no joy in your lifes and you just want to knock a good business model. All you say about Droobli is lies. You cant prove it. Get with the program. Droobli operates just fine and millions are making money. You guys or maybe its just beave are in dreamland. Droobli is a big international publicialy listed company. Dont deny that !!! I got in to help others and I have. Plus I made money which is a side benefit only. I make enough from other e businesses. Why not try it? Unlike you Im not bitter. The future looks great.

3316. Comment by beavis | August 28th, 2010

      Former MP siad:

      “Droobli operates just fine and millions are making money.”

      Droobli only grosses a few million dollars per year (per SEC filings by Droobli that are publicaly available). I guess you Drooblidiots better keep ordering from the “dollar menu” at McDonalds or you’ll blow your annual earnings in one visit

3317. Comment by Thor Albatross | August 31st, 2010

      Droobli has to be the dumbest idea I ever heard of. Who pays 80 cents to check prices? Prices which go down only 25 cents after you’ve spent 80 cents to find out what they are! Obviously the pool of shoppers/price checkers will pay three times as much for stuff! Then there’s the crazy shipping prices. Then you have to pay an annual fee to join this scam!

      Anyone who signs up for Droobli deserves to lose his or her money. What an absolute joke. I’d love to meet the Drooblidiots who join Droobli. They are so gullible I could sell them anything!

3318. Comment by beavis | September 2nd, 2010

      Ho, hummm. . . nothing happening in DroobliLand. I guess no one is getting any of those promised perks (a lot in Cayman Brac, Bentley automobile, matching Breitling watch, million dollar bonus, etc.). It’s as if they set a goal that can’t be attained; at least, not a goal that can be attained selling Droobli. Hey Former MP aka Gene; where’s your Bentley? Or more importanatly, where is your money that you invested?

3319. Comment by Texarse | September 2nd, 2010

      Just in case you’re wondering how Media Group (the parent company of droobli) is going on the nasdaq…

      http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/dynamic_charting.aspx?selected=MEDGE&symbol=MEDG&timeframe=max&charttype=line

      $0.22 a share. Oh, how the not-so-mighty have fallen. From a high of about $0.80 early this year, it’s plummeted to about a quarter of its value, this after all the launches and global exploded all over the world in the last couple of months…

      If I’d bought into this, I’d be feeling pretty sick right now…

3320. Comment by beavis | September 2nd, 2010

      The quarterly report seems delayed, too.

3321. Comment by Xenon Free 00 | September 4th, 2010

      You two idiots are just talking to yourselves. Get a life. Droobli has collapsed and you’re not needed.

3322. Comment by beavis | September 5th, 2010

      Dear Mr. 00,

      We’ve waited a long time for Droobli to enter its’ death spiral and we will follow it into the ground. I sense you bought a package, did you not?

      Anyway, for those still following along, the death spiral is happening. Michael Hansn has been propping up Droobli with personal loans as evidenced by the most recent quarterly report for MediocreNet. I found this of particular interest (note the negative cash flow in the first paragragh):

      “Cash flows (used) in investing activities were $(1,229,214) and $(78,750) for the nine months ended June 30, 2010 and 2009, respectively. Our primary uses of cash for investing activities were the software license, deposits and options, and real estate and office equipment.

      Cash flows provided by financing activities were $133,185 and $608,744 for the nine months ended June 30, 2010, and 2009, respectively, from proceeds of warrant exercises and sales of common stock and proceeds of $824,297 net of repayments of $654,021 from the Note Payable related party .

      In the nine months ended June 30, 2010, we utilized approximately $600,000 of cash from operations and $1.2 million of cash for investment activities. We financed this $1.8 million use of cash with our pre-existing cash resources and approximately $200,000 of net cash advances from our Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Bobby Jensen. For the quarter ending September 30, 2010, we anticipate our capital needs for investing activities will be approximately $1 million. Unless we can generate significantly more capital from operations then we currently project may be generated, in the quarter ending September 30, 2010 we will need to secure additional capital to meet our projected cash needs for investment purposes and to otherwise continue to grow our business as planned. Mr. Bobby Jensen has provided us considerable financial support in the past, and he has verbally committed to provide us the capital we currently project we will need for investment purposes in the quarter ending September 30, 2010, if and when needed. Mr. Jensen has not yet reduced his commitment to writing. On August 19, 2010, Mr. Jensen lent the Company $190,431so that it could make the scheduled payment on a real estate contract it acquired as an investment. If we are unable to generate or secure capital as planned, we may not be able to develop our business as planned and/or may be compelled to seek alternative sources of capital in order to pursue our current business plan.”

      For the whole ugly report please go to

      http://secfilings.nasdaq.com/filingFrameset.asp?FileName=0001144204-10-048165.txt&FilePath=\201093\&CoName=MEDIANET+GROUP+TECHNOLOGIES+INC&FormType=10-Q&RcvdDate=9%2F3%2F2010&pdf=

      Oh, and Gene. . . I told you so

3323. Comment by beavis | September 5th, 2010

      Oh, and another thought;

      How is Droobli going to give the first BA to reach Executive VP in 2010 a Bentley GTC when they are scrambling to come up with a million dollars to get keep the company afloat this quarter and GTC’s cost over $200,000? If you read the quarterly report they are having trouble paying the payments on the Cayman Brac property (aka “DroobliLand”) that was supposed to be given away, too. Cash those credits quick!

3324. Comment by kees | September 5th, 2010

      I think this paragraph is also noteworthy:

      (another url to the this same 10Q quarterly report, filed 2010-09-03:
      http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1097792/000114420410048167/v195957_prer14c.htm )
      (under “ITEM 1A. RISK FACTORS”, heading “Our search for acquisitions and joint ventures could result in the diversion or loss of resources and litigation risk.”

      —————-
      “In connection with any proposed transaction, the Company also faces the risk that it may need to expend resources in order to protect its rights, recoup its investment and/or defend itself against claims of third parties.”

      “For instance, the Company previously entered into a memorandum with a third party that purported to own a vast library of the recording works of a world famous performer and recording artist, various feature movie rights and certain technology. Pursuant to the memorandum, the Company intended to acquire all of the foregoing intellectual property rights in exchange for a significant amount of the Company’s common stock and various capital commitments.”

      “After signing the memorandum, the third party failed to demonstrate ownership of the intellectual property rights it claimed it owned and breached other obligations under the memorandum.”

      “The Company expects it will need to expend some amount of money in order to seek to demonstrate the memorandum is now unenforceable and recoup the capital it expended on the perceived business opportunity.”
      —————-

      Ouch, they were duped themselves…?

      And on another note, it seems their former CFO is now threatening legal action:

      —————-
      “ITEM 5. OTHER INFORMATION”
      “Termination of Former Chief Financial Officer”

      “Since the Company filed its Form 8-K of July 16, 2010 announcing the termination of Mr. Fernandez, Mr. Fernandez has alleged certain disputes with the Company and threatened legal action.”

      “More specifically, Mr. Fernandez has alleged that the Company was aware of Mr. Fernandez’s “many disputes” with the Company and “These disputes include but are not limited to accounting issues, disclosures of material items to shareholders including pending litigations, impairment to assets, revenue recognition, employment discrimination, my benefits and severance pay as well as you prohibiting me from answering shareholder inquiries.”

      “Notwithstanding the Company’s efforts to communicate with Mr. Fernandez, the Company has been unable to understand the factual basis of Mr. Fernandez’s vague and non-specific allegations.”

      “The Company believes Mr. Fernandez’s allegations are without merit.”

      —————-

      

3325. Comment by kees | September 5th, 2010

      Ooops sorry, that url to the 10Q quarterly report should be:

      http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1097792/000114420410048165/v194932_10q.htm

3326. Comment by kees | September 5th, 2010

      But the first url I gave also has some interesting info…

      This is a “Form PRER14C”, filed on the same date as the 10Q report, 3 September 2010.
      http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1097792/000114420410048167/v195957_prer14c.htm

      Under “ITEM 1A. RISK FACTORS”
      (note: in this “Form SC 14F1″ MUCH more risk factors are mentioned than in the 10Q report)

      ————–
      “Unless BSP’s ability to generate cash from operations improves, BSP will need to secure additional capital to maintain its operations as planned.”

      “BSP has generated losses since inception and is not projected to generate income in the near future. BSP’s operations have historically been primarily funded by the sales of equity capital and loans from related parties. Unless BSP’s ability to generate cash from operations improves, it will need additional capital to maintain its operations as planned. BSP has not secured alternative sources of capital and there can be no assurance that it will be able secure additional capital or secure additional capital on favorable terms if needed. The failure of BSP to obtain additional capital could have a material adverse effect on its operations and financial condition.”

      “To become profitable, BSP may need to expand or improve its marketing efforts.”

      “We believe that in order for BSP to attain profitability it will, among other things, need to significantly expand the number of merchants and customers utilizing its services. We further believe that such an expansion will likely require us to either materially increase our already considerable marketing efforts and/or develop and implement more effective marketing strategies. We are currently in the process of evaluating what amount of capital to devote to BSP’s business and whether BSP should and/or could expand or improve its marketing efforts.”
      ————–

      So, like I already mentioned earlier in this thread, Droobli actually regognizes their BSP Rewards Mall business still is and has been a money-eater in stead of a money-maker …. contradictory to what seems to be the ill-informed hype all the BA’s have been spouting for the past few years….

3327. Comment by beavis | September 5th, 2010

      I got the official press release that MediocreNet has prepared to describe the situation should they not be able to get further financing:

      GOOSE
      Plane’s coupling up! Plane’s
      coupling up!

      The plane couples one yaw to the next–the tail swings
      around– which becomes an ever increasing flat spin, like an
      out-of -control frisbee.

      GOOSE
      This is not good!…(Rising panic)
      We’re low!

      Maverick is pinned to the instrument panel by centrifugal
      force, desperately tries to reach back for the ejection
      lever–but is falling short by about a foot.

      MAVERICK
      I’m pinned to the panel.

      GOOSE
      Time to go.

      MAVERICK
      I can’t eject.

      The plane is spinning ever faster, out of control. He drops
      the gear. Still spins. Goose is closer to center of spin–G
      forces are less. He reaches behind him for the eject handle,
      starts the eject sequence.

      GOOSE
      3000 feet. I’ll do it.

      MAVERICK
      Go ahead. I can’t reach. 2000 feet!

      85A. BOOM – A HURRICANE OF WIND AND NOISE

      The canopy BLASTS away–but is held spinning above the
      cockpit by the vortex of the sinking jet. Goose glances up at
      it.

      GOOSE
      1000.

      MAVERICK
      Let’s go. Eject.

      Goose yanks the ejection handle. Things happen in a split
      second. Goose is fired up and out by the rocket under his
      seat. Almost instantly he impacts the spinning canopy. A
      sickening CRUNCH. The canopy is knocked away. Maverick is
      slammed back in his seat as the ejection seat straps wind up.
      He is BLASTED out of the plane just before it spins in.

3328. Comment by Fun Times | September 8th, 2010

      I really enjoy this forum. I love what some of the Drooblidiots have written. It’s hilarious to read about their justifications for Droobli. A few even try to say that they’re in Droobli to help others!

      The world is a kinda funny place. Guys like Beavis, etc would never be drawn into a scam like Droobli. Yet there are millions who would. Droobli has that brilliant sounding idea that “while you sleep” “millions” worldwide are providing you with “click through” “viral streams of cash”. The morons out there (and there are plenty) think this makes sense. Perfect sense!

      I think now that everyone has found out about how Droobli is basically a scam there are those who want to take revenge on Bobby Jenson. I think we all hope he gets the justice he deserves for trying to trick people out of their money. I hope he gets jail time.

3329. Comment by Former MP | September 8th, 2010

      O the parrots! I go away for a while and everyone believes the spin. This place is all lies. All of it. I’ve tried to explain about this great company. I go to shows we have 3000 people. This is still growing and cash is flowing. Believe it or not. There are millions of Droobli customers. Hey just look at all my posts here and it will set you straight about how to capitalize on their foul efforts to deceive or bad mouth about a great company. I got everyone in my family on Droobli and we all have given up ebay. It’s no good. Just a scheme. They bought out Paypal!!!! Don’t sweat it. Must have been a mistake. Now with Droobli it’s easy money for doing little to nothing and that just is how it is. What does one think it takes to set up an online store? Nothing much. A few hours. Besides its all free. The website is still in spades. The China launch was the icing on the cake. These fine folk LOL just always trying to tear it down. But who cares. Basically we have a global ecommerce portal. This is everyone’s dream. Make big money. You can make your dream. No that can’t be. You really don’t care one way or the other. You don’t even know me and you could say the same for me. Your stuck in the ruts on top of a sand dune where everyone Can see you.

      You people cant cope with real life. Im making money but its not money with me. I like character. Any character in you? Think about it. Its the key to the whole operation. With Droobli you look at the man in the mirror. How do you live with yourselve beav? Not getting anywhere are you beav? Yeah shouldn’t get something for this I don’t think How is it working for you anyway? You have a bunch of these sites when one comes down you hurry and put another up or is it you just stop beating up the current company you‘ve been in this vicious circle goes round and round, on and on. Hey I wonder if maybe I could come work for you LOL.

      Keep feeding the parrotts.

3330. Comment by beavis | September 8th, 2010

      Former MP said:

      “Hey I wonder if maybe I could come work for you LOL.”

      Umm, no; it wouldn’t work out. To work for me you would have to:

      A. Show up at work.
      B. Provide a service worth paying for.
      C. Not scam anybody.

      I think it is apparent we weren’t meant for each other; however, if I find a sure-fire, no effort required, ethics optional, millionaire overnight opportunity you will be the first one that I call.

3331. Comment by So Over Beav | September 9th, 2010

      Get your hand off it Beavis. Your opinion of yourself is a lot higher than the rest of us. A grade jerk. Why don’t you just go away.

3332. Comment by beavis | September 9th, 2010

      So Over Beav,

      You know, I was just about to go away because I hadn’t gotten a good, insulting response from any of you Drooblidiots; but, thanks to you I’m reinvigorated! And you are correct, my opinion of myself is much, much higher than the rest of you morons.

3333. Comment by Casey | September 10th, 2010

      so over Beav.
      So I guess this forum is also spoiling your associate sign up rate into Droobli…Great, then it is achieving the desired result and warning people about this disgraceful Ponzi scheme.
      If you don’t like reading the truth (all substantiated with evidence) and no one to date has provided any evidence to the contrary, only Dubious propaganda, then please go away.

      Former MP aka Gene. Your posting is once again up to your usual standard…Bullshit… with no supporting evidence to prove us wrong. Blah Blah Blah.
      Came back with proof that Droobli is not a SCAM.
      I am starting to think that you are working directly for Bobby Jenson and Co.
      Please leave and close the door behind you.

3334. Comment by beavis | September 12th, 2010

      Padding the payroll Droobli style!

      Has anyone looked at the “Executive Officers” of MediocreNet? In particular a Ms. Dupont Sorensen? She is the highly qualified “Head of Marketing”. . . who derives a six figure income from MediocreNet. . and has a business background of having owned a reastaurant and a bachelors degree that she earned in 1996 (like I said, “highly qualified”). . . and, oh, did I mention, she lives with Bobby Jensen? Now I’m not saying she is overpaid by the stockholders of Droobli but I would like some input from the readers here. Based upon her salary ($7500 per month with a minimum 15% annual bonus bound by a 3 year contract), does she have:

      1 – really nice “C” cups
      2 – shapely “D’s”
      3 – or some awe inspiring “DD+’s”

      Also of consequence:

      1 – real
      2 – “surgically modified”

      And finally:

      “Can she suck a golf ball through a garden hose”

      These are things that the stockholders of MediNat should be thinking about when the pay over $100,000 per year for a Head of Marketing whose background can easily be condensed to “four years out of college but has a “knack” for promotion”.

3335. Comment by iwasduped | September 12th, 2010

      http://www.newworlddroobli.info/index.html

      Listen to this interview with Bobby Jensen on 27th August.

      Droobli Vision….. to be the biggest shopping mall like google, twitter and facebook…huh?…..still spinning that propaganda!!!!!!!!!!!

      Merger with Medianet….. why?

      Healthy company…LOL

      Company for the future…LOL

      We dont need any money in the company……………LOL

      Droobli in 5 years?…………………one of the biggest shopping mall in the world…it will be bigger than a tsunami……………LOL

      October launch of the Entertainment portal is like a revolution….LOL

3336. Comment by beavis | September 13th, 2010

      Please note I had a typo regarding Ms. Dupont Sorensen. I said :

      “four years out of college but has a “knack” for promotion”.

      She, in fact, is fourteen years out of college (and owned a restaurant). She still has a “knack” for promotion. If I was a MediocreNet aka Droobli stock holder I’d be pissed.

3337. Comment by kees | September 21st, 2010

      Update on Droobli’s global *monthly unique visitors* numbers, for August 2010, according to siteanalytics.compete.com:

      us.droobli.com: 25,990
      global.droobli.com: 8,725
      eu.droobli.com: 530
      au.droobli.com: “we do not have any data for this site”

      screenshot:
      http://i54.tinypic.com/t5kbir.jpg

3338. Comment by Texarse | September 21st, 2010

      “us.droobli.com … year to date change -27.27%”
      “eu.droobli.com … year to date change -63.52%”

      So, when some drooblidiot talks about “exploded” in terms of how the business is going in other countries, it’s clear they used the wrong prefix. It should have been “imploded”.

      Meanwhile, the parent company of droobli is continuing its, slow, steady, inexorable slide to oblivion…

      http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/dynamic_charting.aspx?selected=MEDG&symbol=MEDG&timeframe=max&charttype=line

      $0.21 a share. When it was $0.80 a share in February 2010 to a quarter of it’s value 7 months later.

      If I’d bought into it, I’d be feeling quite ill now.

3339. Comment by beavis | September 21st, 2010

      Droobli makes me think of Spinal Tap looking for a Japanese tour.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinal_Tap_%28band%29

3340. Comment by Eugene | September 30th, 2010

      Quiet, quiet, quiet. (I’m assuming the board isn’t on the blink again). Is there nothing at all new to add in Droobli-land, or are the “usual suspects” just all on vacation at once?

3341. Comment by M.H. (ice ice baby) | October 3rd, 2010

      Droobli is hilarious. I get a real kick out of re-reading the earnest posts by the Droobli devotees. They are in it for the money (which sadly will never come)yet they have to come up with ulterior motives to try and say the are “really great people”. “We’re doing this for everybody else”.

      I love to hear the drooblidiots speak. Why don’t they sell CDs of the droobli doublespeak? It’s hilarious.

      Gene McNeally, formerly of Douglas, Nebraska, was truly the dumbest person I’ve head in a long time. How can you function with such a low IQ? He must have went to “special educational facilities” to eventually complete his third grade education.

      He was the classic crappy person Droobli attracts. Maybe Lindy Englund should sign up.

3342. Comment by Casey | October 3rd, 2010

      The usual suspects have made their fortunes from Droobli and are having a well earned break before starting their next rip off venture. Gene where are you?

3343. Comment by Maven 2010 | October 3rd, 2010

      Droobli is dead. We now await the rising of a new scamming MLM scheme. The same morons will be burnt. “My ship’s just gotta come in with this one”.

      Gene is strangely silent. I miss his “doncha know”. Too busy selling chaga mushrooms to cancer victims.

      Has the Seventh Day Adventist church kicked him out yet?

3344. Comment by Paul Lupi | October 3rd, 2010

      Did anyone see the post from Kees?

      Here it is again: Droobli’s global *monthly unique visitors* for August 2010, according to siteanalytics.compete.com:

      us.droobli.com: 25,990
      global.droobli.com: 8,725
      eu.droobli.com: 530
      au.droobli.com: “we do not have any data for this site”

      Wow!!!!! There are 800,000,000 people in Europe yet 530 of them only had something to do with Droobli.

      Droobli is so over. Man what a disaster! Drooblidiots get out now !!!! Your house is on fire !!!!!!!

3345. Comment by So Over Beav | October 4th, 2010

      I’m glad Beave has taken my threat seriously and has gone into hiding. hopefully, he took my advice and is now doing something useful. He thought he was so great. He had a superior attitude. I would have wiped the smirk off his face.

3346. Comment by beavis | October 4th, 2010

      “So Over Beav”,

      What are you talking about? Yes, I do have a superior attitude (for good reason) and of course I’m great, but “take your advice”? I don’t think so. If I took Drooblidiot advice I’d be $3,000 poorer, have few if any friends, my relatives would avoid me and I’d probebly wind up sticking a screwdriver into a wall outlet

      To the previous posters regarding the lack of Droobli activity, I’m still waiting for the winner of the Bentley to be announced, the winner(s) of the “million dollar bonus” and the winner(s) of a building lot in Cayman Brac. Yes, Droobli is obviously floundering.

3347. Comment by Beav is an idiot | October 6th, 2010

      Beav, I’ll shut your mouth for you. How can you keep wasting your time here? No one likes you.

3348. Comment by don | October 6th, 2010

      Well I am a droobli BA and wish that I had never herd of this stupid online business,I have not made a cent yet,I am in Australia and the shopping portal for Australia is pathetic there are hardly any products to buy I was under the impression that the credits were used to buy the goods,but the credits are just used to see the hidden price,or you could gamble your credits away with the unique bids,I have lost about $200 worth of credits so far and have nothing to show for using unique bid.I will strongly suggest that you do not get involved in this unscrupulous business unless you want to rip other people off.I hate it

3349. Comment by Texarse | October 6th, 2010

      Well, there you have it… An actual, live droobli BA who is telling it like it is…

      Thanks Don, your honesty does you credit. (Just not a droobli credit…)

      Meanwhile, mediagroup, droobli’s parent company is still languishing on the nasdaq…

      http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/dynamic_charting.aspx?selected=MEDG&symbol=MEDG&timeframe=max&charttype=line

      If you’d bought shares in it at the beginning of this year, wouldn’t you feel ill?

3350. Comment by Casey | October 8th, 2010

      Sorry to hear that Don, but you were not alone. I for 1 was saved by this site back in Oct.2009, and the valuable information that was freely available and verifiable, confirming my suspicions. There were many posters back then that kept trying to convince everyone they were going to get rich overnight blah blah blah, These posters are getting few and far between these days as there bullshit comes floating to the surface and they disappear. Even Gene has lost his voice of late. There’s enough info out there now to prove it’s one big scam. DIE GROOBLI.

3351. Comment by don | October 10th, 2010

      I fought this off for ages my friends where pushing me into it saying how great it was,now i feel like a real dick,i sold it on to another person and wished i had not,and i still don’t have the money i requested from that sale.But the worst thing there is nothing on ther that i would really buy,and as far as that unique bidding what a joke,you can blow hundreds on that little scam,yes DIE GROOBLI .All you droobli Ba’s your in denial i was for a while.Don’t do it

3352. Comment by Tash | October 11th, 2010

      I got a bad feeling about this when I received an email approx. 10 mins ago asking me to confirm joining this GroobLi. It said I joined 2 minutes previously, which was not possible because i had never heard of it, and 2 minutes earlier I was putting my baby to bed and had been doing so for the previous 15mins. So dodgy. Blocked and deleted.

3353. Comment by Loyal Dublin Head Buster | October 11th, 2010

      Don and Tash are the same poster. I’m a court evidential expert in the field of hand writing analysis. I come samples for style and actual penmanship. In this case I am certain Don and Tash posts were written by the same person. That person is a male in his early thirties and has no more than a high school education.

3354. Comment by Loyal Dublin Head Buster | October 11th, 2010

      More revelations about other posters on this forum will follow after I get back from the continent. To whet your appetite all I’ll say is that “Beavis” is a ‘type’.

3355. Comment by Mr Cynic | October 11th, 2010

      Hey Loyal Droobli Head Basher,

      What level of education do you require to supply come samples for court??

      And all this time I thought Beav was a Giant Badger breeder….

3356. Comment by Casey | October 11th, 2010

      The clowns are back.

3357. Comment by Mr Cynic | October 12th, 2010

      Sorry Casey……was trying to be humorous.

3358. Comment by Charlie | October 13th, 2010

      I’m glad i only invested $800 of which down the drain, I’m so embarassed I ever listened to my Droobli source, If i’m ever approached by another person speaking Droobli, I’ll kill them, I mean I’ll sincerely murder them and their family snd I’ll burn their house to the ground. I just feel sorry for all the people who are vulnerable to these con men. I just wish we could find a way to sue the company.

3359. Comment by Jai Norden | October 13th, 2010

      The best revenge is living well. Charlie, give up your hate and try to find God. There’s a slow train coming.

3360. Comment by eaglescout | October 13th, 2010

      I would like to give everyone a heads-up. MediocreNet submitted a complaint regarding this site, and I will be cleaning up some material to satisfy their claims of “defamation”. Unfortunately, it may involve deleting most of Beavis’ comments, but even worst, removing factual information.

      For example, MediocreNet says GroobLi is owned by MediocreNet and based in the United States. Their complaint is that I wrote that they are a mailbox corporation not based in the United States. That was true when I wrote it, but MediocreNet claims this is an example of such defamation.

      The reality is much of the information presented here was factual when it was written (and a lot of it still is!). I don’t have time to update GroobLi’s dirty history every time they are bought by some new penny-stock corporation.

      My hosting company doesn’t need attention from MediocreNet’s lawyers and I just don’t have the time or the resources to fight back. Fortunately, GroobLi’s history is well documented throughout the internet; for example, http://www.archive.org/web/web.php and various anti-scam websites.

3361. Comment by kees | October 13th, 2010

      Sorry to hear that, Eaglescout (and Beavis).

      FWIW, (and for some people who might not know this), my solution to at least not lose any info presented here (as long as it’s still here):
      Right-click while being on this page and choose “Save page as” and then save as “Web Page, complete” and store it somewhere on your system.

      If you then open that saved page later on (regular left-double-click, and it will open in your standard browser), it will open from the drive where you saved it (thus not from the TheSpinFactor website), and it will be a(n archived) snapshot of the moment when you saved the page.

      Thanks Eaglescout for your efforts and the opportunity you have given us over the past months/years to discuss Droobli here

3362. Comment by Casey | October 14th, 2010

      Eaglescout, I hope if that is the case that you will also remove all the bullshit information by Drooblidiots that are also blatant lies. I guess if you did that there would be no comments left at all. Good luck

3363. Comment by Commander Cody | October 14th, 2010

      What’s good for business is bad for the environment. We need a 20% downturn in the world economy now! That way people will buy less crap and there will be less pollution. We need to control population because every person is a polluter.

      Can all you Americans just want fewer things? They don’t make you happy. Also make it illegal to make the Hummer. Also ban motorsport since it causes pollution. Buy locally so that not as much pollution can be created bringing the product to your door.

3364. Comment by The Drum | October 14th, 2010

      Is calling Droobli a “scam” considered defamation? If it is you have a lot of posts to delete.

      A lot of little people to protect.

3365. Comment by Eugene | October 16th, 2010

      It sounds to me like Medianet has figured that this site (along with the Australian Whirlpool site) is the principal source of anti-Droobli info on the ‘net, and they’re out to silence it.

      Mind you, given how well the Australian launch appears to have gone over , they may be a little late in trying to stamp out the opposition now. In any event, even if it was necessary to strike Beavis’ posts, I would have thought that the posts from former Droobli-ites (especially Charlie) would still make it pretty clear how Droobli operates and your chances of actually making any money from it.

      Whatever may happen from here forward, I’ve enjoyed my time here, and I’ve enjoyed the people. I stumbled across this site 18 months ago by accident, and learned about Droobli — something I would never have found out about otherwise (no one else I know has ever heard of it). In its heyday, this site was kind of like a soap opera or episodic drama — Every day new twists and turns — and it never failed to be interesting and entertaining.

3366. Comment by P.T. Morgan | October 17th, 2010

      Ha Ha …… you anti-Droobli people will all be going to jail!!! Medianet has more lawyers than the Swiss Army. We will crush you. No one has the right to say anything about a great company like Droobli. Freedom of speech is not about defaming Bobby Jensen and other great leaders of Droobli!!!

      I’m writing this from the Cayman Islands suckers.

3367. Comment by Texarse | October 17th, 2010

      P.T. Morgan? Don’t you mean P.T. Barnum? I mean, wasn’t he supposed to have said “There’s a sucker born every minute?”*

      Hell, if it wasn’t for that, there’d be no customers for droobli…

      And, all the lawyers in the world won’t hide the fact that droobli isn’t worth buying into.

      *Actually, he didn’t.

3368. Comment by Eugene | October 17th, 2010

      Don’t you mean more lawyers than the Swiss Navy?

3369. Comment by P.T. Morgan | October 18th, 2010

      You guys are fried because of your anti-Droobli rants!!! Cut you a deal. Say how great Droobli is and I’ll put in a good word for you to my uplines. I have power so consider this deal carefully and I’ll be expecting lots of nice flowery words about this great company that is almost bigger than ebay!!!!

3370. Comment by Former Marine Laughing | October 18th, 2010

      ha ha ha ha … I check in for the first time in months (too busy with by businesses) and I find everyone of you parrots running scared. You lie and it comes back to haunt you. DDNTR IT? Get the point? You cant stop this business model because it is e business which you dont know or even understand and I m making money. Thats right! You never checked with me before you wrote your lies. Now you wished you had. Go to my site and read it all up in one gulp. Take a big drink of reality. Make some money. This may help you. Don’t listen to the scamapedia here. It’s going to take some work. The customer base has literlay exploded. Amazing You cant stop global growth. Ebay is so dead, as it will, it’s going to be crazy if you follow my drift. Do something with what ya have. Email me if you like. Oh yes if you have to buy credits by then you can what you have want more. It’s what you have for if you started have to find a way to get customers believe me. But the auctions it makes it a whole lot easier when your customers start bringing in more customers and then it just explodes. Look around. Beav isnt a happy man because he didn’t get on board.

      Just start on your customer base and go to your people in the back office I think there is one you can somewhat is that right? You guys don’t seem to be interested in any real business you have to try to ruin you can’t do it? Beav why do you doubt success? You would be able to get the information you need that’s what they’re for. You don’t have to do any selling!!!!!!!!! You might find that were not intended to be a sole entity. Just a bit of shopping which only and if not then I will be concerned. So stop the auctions.

      Why not go where the company is going? Its going to the top for people with vision. Boys is it clear enough. Ok? Small goods tend to do the best for honestly of course but no you make it a crime to be smart. You call it greed to be in business. What book are you reading that we should take vows of poverty?

      Are you going through a lot of trouble to do so. It doesn’t make any business sense if that were the case so this is the totally outrageous claims must be taken seriously or we wouldn’t have you to contend with now would we? I’ve not seen you show any products in a timely fashion and associates make money and so does the company. Isn’t that how it supposed to work? So take courage and don’t let the spin dopes mash break your step. That goes for you who are looking and would like an online business also. My, my its all lock step now aint it Beav. So clever but business dumb. And Eaglescout. Dumb and dumber. And now you may go to jail. I will be patient. It’s all in the plan. You know when it comes to a luanch you be on a real good idea. You don’t seem to answer that. Is it because you aren’t getting any? It might go to your head. Not eagle’s either. Right? You’re welcome to buy at my shop and check out my real business. Just keep watching this stuff. MArk my words and live a little.

      Oh and if any out there are just happening across this blog let me help you get started. It’s going to be big. That’s what you do when you start a business. You go to tthe top. Trust me. Right to Success Street.

      Whose having the last laugh now? ha hha ha

3371. Comment by Jay | October 18th, 2010

      Hey former marine laughing – you’re a droobli BA? Now, THAT’S funny. Nobody will touch it so you can’t suck anyone else in. There’s nothing worth buying on any of the gambling games so you can’t even spend the credits you’re left holding.

      Sorry – but your $3000 is lost. Don’t make it worse by ripping off your friends and family too.

3372. Comment by beavis | October 18th, 2010

      Regarding the Droobli lawyers’ letter, kees said:

      “Sorry to hear that, Eaglescout (and Beavis).”

      Oh my! I (along with a few others here) have been censored! I guess I’ll have to say only nice things about Droobli. Let’s see. . . I could say “droobli is doing great even though the stock is down to around 20 cents a share from an annual high of $1.01 according to nasdaq.com”. I could also say “Droobli is a great way to invest $3,000 and get a lot of tokens”. Perhaps I should say “Droobli doesn’t discriminate against the mentally challenged”. From now on I’ll say nothing but nice things about Droobli

3373. Comment by butthead | October 18th, 2010

      Hi,

      I’m butthead. I’m new here.

3374. Comment by eaglescout | October 19th, 2010

      Here is the humorous complaint filled with misrepresentations: Retard Complaint.

      The letter seems to be sprinkled with fallacies and typographical errors.

3375. Comment by Texarse | October 19th, 2010

      Hey! He wants to know who “bevis” [sic] is, but not me?

      Just as a matter of interest, if this law-firm represents d.ubli… Surely, if you wanted to serve a subpoena on office holders of d.ubli, you could serve them on the law-firm and it would be deemed to be served?

      A couple of hilarious quotes…

      “Media.net and the D.ubLi companies are in the online shopping business [...] D.ubLi expects to become the largest early-stage shopping portal in the world.”

      That’s a little bit like me saying “I expect to sleep with all the most attractive women in the world.” It’s nice to have a goal, but, it’s better if it’s achievable.

      “The D.ubLi customer [...] gets “entertainment” value watching the price drop, which is critical to the viral growth of the customer base.”

      I’ll bet it’s not as entertaining as watching the price of a M.ediaNet share drop!

      http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/dynamic_charting.aspx?selected=MEDG&symbol=MEDG&timeframe=max&charttype=line

      Bwahahahaha…

3376. Comment by Martin Love | October 19th, 2010

      Hey eaglescout – I suggest you take these guys seriously. You must be hurting the Dubli profits. These guys sound heavy. Money is their God and they will stop at nothing to silence you. Be very afraid.

      Pack a suitcase now. Travel light keep on the move. Cancel your internet. Don’t log on for three years. Get a new identity.

      Keep away from all windows. Watch the second floor.

3377. Comment by butthead | October 19th, 2010

      I noticed in the attorney hate letter that they are still claiming millions of customers in Europe. I think their attorney needs to have a little “come to Jesus” talk with their client regarding the accuracy of the stats they are being handed. There is nothing worse then getting into court pursuing a defemation case and finding out your client, the alleged victim, lied his ass off to you.

3378. Comment by Mr Cynic | October 19th, 2010

      Doesn’t a legal letter have to be actually addressed to someone, not “to whom it may concern”?

      Why does everything after “The Falsity Of The Statements” sound like D.ubli promotional blurb. I thought real lawyers kept all that “explaining their clients position” for the court case?

      I wonder if someone got a REAL letter from a legal firm and decided to photocopy the letterhead and then type their own rubbish under it?

3379. Comment by Captain TJ Cooney | October 20th, 2010

      You guys are crazy. Just lie down and talk the glorious Groobli victory. The world needs another company like Grooobli. It’s a genius idea that’s spread globally. Even to the White House I’ve heard. I heard Vice President Joe Biden is a Groobli Vice President. How’s that for validation?

3380. Comment by Eugene | October 21st, 2010

      It’s interesting to see that D?bli has been the topic of posts on this forum for over two years now.

      Two years, and almost 3400 posts. Wow.

      During these two years, there has been a constant stream of statements about how D?bli was going to be the next eBay, and revolutionize how the entire world bought stuff. Each new launch was hyped as if it were going to be the second coming. Some fiercely partisan people, having bought into D?bli, came to this forum saying that this was going to make them rich, and that those people that didn’t get in on this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity were fools.

      And each time there was a launch (or re-launch, or re- re-launch), nothing much happened. Not in America. Not in Australia. Most of the fierce partisans eventually went away and were never heard from again (even Gene, seemingly). Some brave individuals, formerly fierce partisans were willing to come back here and admit that they had been duped, and that despite their efforts, they hadn’t made any money off D?bli.

      Aside from the recent attempt to muzzle this site with the threat of legal action (which strikes me as a last ditch effort to eliminate something that they know is killing their business), not much seems to be happening. There aren’t many new partisans, or news of new country launches, or news of new houses being built on Cayman Brac for VPs. It sounds like D?bli is dying a natural death — it just hasn’t quite stopped moving yet.

3381. Comment by butthead | October 21st, 2010

      Eugene,

      I agree with everything you just posted except “It sounds like D?bli is dying a natural death”. I firmly believe the Company Whose Name Shalt Not Be Spoken will die, but not a natural death. I believe it will involve a stake through it’s foul heart, then dragging it out of its’ coffin and into the sunlight whereupon it will disintegrate into dust – with much fanfare

3382. Comment by eaglescout | October 21st, 2010

      If you have Google Instant on, you can see why they are angry.

3383. Comment by Dwayne Bravo | October 22nd, 2010

      You guys really don’t get it. You’ve been caught making illegal statements like “Groobli is a scam”. That can’t be proven and so now you all must go to jail. All of you.

3384. Comment by don | October 22nd, 2010

      Dear mr Loyal Dublin Head Buster,i just read your post you better do your course again you could not have gotten it more wrong if you tried,i am not Tash i am in my 50’s,one thing you did get right is i am male.And i still think Drubli is crap and i really mean it guys if you are thinking of joining do yourself a favour and spend your money on a legit business,have a look at the Australian portal there really is nothing to buy why would i go to DIBBLE and buy one of their products when on Ebay i can choose from 100 laptos and DUGLI has 1 only laptop ,that’s choice eh.Pull your head in HEAD BUSTER

3385. Comment by Dwayne Bravo | October 22nd, 2010

      Don, we have your number. You said “there really is nothing to buy”. That is a lie. There are several products to buy. More than that. You just told a lie about a great company. What if I said Walmart had nothing to buy. I could be arrested for libel. It is so wrong to try to wilfully damage another’s business. I know Michael Hanson is a jerk but he has the right to business.

      All you anti-droobli people will be arrested. Thousands of you. The legal stuff is being prepared now. Droobl has won!

3386. Comment by The CFO | October 22nd, 2010

      Maybe Groobli could open jails for anti-Groobli people on Cayman Brac. One of the attractions of Groobliland could be to watch eaglescout and beavis rot in jail.

      All hail Groobli.

3387. Comment by don | October 23rd, 2010

      What the hell are you talking about mate,i am NOT HAPPY with this stupid business i have got myself into ,so what i’m not supposed to complain about it?i shivering,and no compared to the american portal there is not a lot to buy,this has been told to me by people that i have tried to sign up and the most common comment i get is that it is pyramid selling and that they personally would not buy the goods that are on there.If you think it’s such a great business why don’t you buy my credit’s from me,i have 4679 left i’ll give them to you at a bargain price of $3000 any takers?…..didn’t think so
      I got your number ….PLEASE give me a break

3388. Comment by Eugene | October 23rd, 2010

      Bea, sorry Butthead — You should have ended your last message with:

      “…And there was much rejoicing”

3389. Comment by butthead | October 23rd, 2010

      Eugene,

      Um. . . yea, you’re right; works much better. Being a Monty Python fan I should have thought of that.

      On the forums on whirlpool.net I posted my ambitions for a movie about the Company Whose Name Shall Not Be Mentioned. This is my dream cast:

      Steve-O to play The CEO
      Eddie Izzard (in full drag) as his VP
      Snookie as the CEO’s significant other and Company HEAD of Marketing
      Wee Man as their attorney

3390. Comment by Jack Daddy | October 23rd, 2010

      Have heard that one of the guys spruiking Dubli down under in a big way has been given the flick. I believe he was at VP level.

      Turns out he was recruiting some of his direct downline for another network marketing. And I thought that Dubli was the one and only business model above all else!!!

      My take on this – he’s made as much as he could on this before everyone works out that its crap so he did what he did so he could to get out before it all starts to go under and that he’s not associated with it any longer.

3391. Comment by Gore Phillips | October 23rd, 2010

      All of you are in danger of jail time!!! You are trying to bring down a great company !!! That’s illegal !!!! All of you will be getting a letter !!! Even that idiot Gene because he actually drove people away from Droobli with his idiotic interpretations of the Droobli model!!!

      We will smash all of you!!! You will learn what the law is!!! You will find out what defamation is !!!

      That’s all for now!!!

3392. Comment by butthead | October 24th, 2010

      Gore Phillips,

      We are so panicked. . . so. . . umm. . . disturbed. I think I will go take a nap now.

3393. Comment by "Dandy" Lyon | October 26th, 2010

      I’m so disappointed with Gene. You click on his name on this site and ….. guess what ????? You don’t transferred to a Droobli propaganda site anymore. No more “cash streams”. No more “this thing’s goin’ viral’. No more ‘I’m doing this for charity’.

      No, none of that. Now it’s chaga mushrooms will cure your cancer. Michael Hanson, one of your sheep has left the fold. You can’t have a loose canon like that walking around healthy. I’ll tell you were to find him. Just go to Douglas Nebraska and ask Cletus McNeally where Gene McNeally is.

      For the sake of the great Droobliu business model you gotta find Gene and shut his trap. He’s no longer a true believer. Gene, what happened? More money in exploiting cancer victims?

3394. Comment by dubtruthrevealed | October 27th, 2010

      Droobi and the Leadership Team may be doing well due to a big team of networkers joining in Europe, but it is in the last throws of life in Australia, NZ and the US.

      Droobi built big numbers when they were just talking about an idea, but as soon as they started to deliver, the reality dawned on people that the Droobi Reverse Auctions, which were supposed to atract customers, simply did not attract customers and hence BAs got left holding all of the credits they had purchased.

      Tom, a DrooblI VP stated in a webinar ( http://www.runforthemoney.biz ) that there were 24 million unused credits in the US. BAs purchased these credits in good faith believing that they would be able to sell them. Obviously they cant.

      The same sort of thing happened in Australia.

      Dean, Droobli Vice President, and Tom will go to extreme lengths to promote Droobli. It is interesting to note that the whole trust of the http://www.runforthemoney.biz webinar was stating that people could EARN INCOME by purchasing ‘Pay Pal Cash Cards’ at a discount.

      It should be noted that for all items on the Droobli Express Auction, customers must spend 4 credits, at a cost of $3.20, to lower the price of the item $1 !!!!!! This included the ‘Pay Pal Cash Cards’. They even showed one card, that had been sold at 46% off. Tom even states that the CARD WAS PURCHASED BY ONE OF THE GUYS WHO WORKS FOR HIM. Do you think they may have deliberately run the price down or not ?

      The Cash Cards have now been removed from the Auction. I wonder why ?? Could it be that what they were promoting was illegal ?

      Watch http://www.runforthemoney.biz and form your own opinion of the honesty and integrity of the Drooubli leadership.

3395. Comment by The Original McGinty | October 29th, 2010

      All of you anti-Dubli people will face big fines. Big, big fines. You were so smug and now your anti-Dubli empire of sand comes crashing down as horsemen gather. Hail Thane of Cawdor! You will feel the lick of the lash on that bitter morning. And when the avenging sword of justice strikes you will taste the bitterness of the cud. I kid you not.

3396. Comment by Texarse | October 29th, 2010

      Well, you’d've thought that now the d.ubli nay-sayers have been cowed by threats of legal action, their share price would’ve soared into the stratosphere…

      http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/dynamic_charting.aspx?selected=MEDG&symbol=MEDG&timeframe=max&charttype=line

      Not so much.

3397. Comment by Phil Harris | October 29th, 2010

      What’s wrong with making money for the Droobli team? That’s just business. Poor saps work to make the bosses rich. The Droobli BAs are just weak minded little morons making the Droobli administration rich. But that’s just business.

      If you have a conscience maybe Droobli isn’t for you. But for most people, particularly Americans, it’s just business as usual. Hanson is the smartest guy in the room. He’s amazing. He’s actually convinced millions of people that Droobli is a good idea. Sure most pull out after a few weeks but he suckered them in. He’s a genius. I want to get on board for his next scam. He has no conscience and that’s what I like about him.

3398. Comment by dubtruthrevealed | October 30th, 2010

      The biggest lie Michael started was that Droobli has 85 customers per BAs and over 2.3 million had become customers in 8 months. The Auction results show very clearly that this is not correct.

      Customers in general do not believe it is a good idea to spend $3.20, the cost of 4 Credits, to lower the Cost of an item $1.00 !!!!!! Hence the Auctions have failed !!!!!

      At renewal time BAs in Australia and Globally will quit just the same as 90-95% of US BAs quit last year.

      ‘You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time!’

3399. Comment by Jon Jon | November 1st, 2010

      You complainers will finally get yours. I had to watch my business suffer because everyone told me about your site. Now the worm has turned. You blue staters are finished. I think eagle will really end up in jail. That’s how you cook a goose! Ha HA

3400. Comment by butthead | November 1st, 2010

      Jon jon said:

      “I had to watch my business suffer because everyone told me about your site.”

      Good

3401. Comment by onlooker | November 1st, 2010

      dubtruthrevealed it is crazy to see that you got kicked out of the business for crosslining with myshopping genie and now you are bad mouthing the business that you promoted for the past year or so and even tried to sponser me into myshoppinggenie while i was iam still active in D____ business i see the same happened before 1st Amway ,then Monavida then D____ now your in myshopping genie which is why you bad mouth D____

      i for 1 know that D—- will succeed & is one of the best business i have ever been involved in with real value especially with the new shopping mall & entertainment

      take care all bye

3402. Comment by Casey | November 1st, 2010

      Hey Onlooker,
      You haven,t been buying Gene’s Chaba mushrooms have you? Or are they really magic mushrooms for you to believe this Droobli crap business model.
      Jon Jon and Original McGinty,
      Nobody is going to be fined or go to Jail from this site. The only person that may end up in Jail when Droobli is dead and dusted will be M Hansen and co.

3403. Comment by Jon Jon | November 2nd, 2010

      Casey you’re dead wrong. There are libel laws for a reason buster. And Dubli is going to crush you all. The company doesn’t care if 3 million people have said bad things about the company. You can’t ruin people’s dreams like this. You guys have damaged the whole BA structure. The plan needs more BAs coming in than going out. You don’t understand this pyramid thing. But you will!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3404. Comment by Eugene | November 2nd, 2010

      @ Jon Jon:

      Ever heard of a company called Enron?

      They had dreams too.

      (Dreams for some can be nightmares for others)

3405. Comment by dubtruthrevealed | November 2nd, 2010

      The facts are very simple.
      BAs in the US and Australia were lied to, and are still being lied to about the customer numbers in Europe. It is now very obvious when everybody can see the completed Auctions on all 4 Auction Platforms that there very obviously were not 85 Customers for each BA in Europe or that 2.3million customer came in during an 8 month period as they reported on their websites. These figures are still being promoted as fact on popular web sites…see http://doa2z.com/research.html

      After 3 years it has now been proven conclusively that customers everywhere can see that it makes no sense to spend 4 credits at a cost of $3.20 to lower the cost of an Item $1.

      Because customers don’t buy credits to use on the Auctions, BAs have been left with them. Mick H produced them out of thin air, and now according to VP Tom there are 24million (at a cost to BAs of about $15million) sitting on shelves in the US, and probably nearly as many in Australia. Tom talks about this on a Webinar @ http://www.runforthemoney.biz . The amount in Europe would also now be mounting rapidly as new people are still becoming BAs over there.

      BAs were told that customers would need to purchase credits for the entertainment. That was clearly another lie that was told by VP Dean to keep people’s hopes up for a little while longer.

      Basically BAs have no way of getting rid of their Credits. It is obviously only people with no conscience that are still suggesting that people become BAs when they can clearly see all of the facts that are occurring world wide.

      Promoting the music to customers is one thing. It could be good value and Bronze package holders will be able to make 50 cents per month per customer they sign up. After spending $750 to become a Bronze, having 20 music customers will generate an income of $10 per month to the Bronze and at least $5 per month to the upline VP. That is why the VPs & SDs will now be promoting very heavily to get customers. They know how it works. They know that once the BAs bring in the customers the BAs roll has finished. The BAs have funded the establishment of the company and bought in the initial customer base.

      The compensation plan very clever and is such that if a BA brings in customers and then fails to renew, Mick H gets the income that would have gone to the BA, and the upline SDs and VPs still get the same income from the customers whether the BAs renew or not.

      The big push by VP Dean and the SDs at DDay2 will be on bringing in customers. That will help them long term. They know that at least 90-95% of BAs will quit at renewal just as they did in the US last year. They know what is coming. They know that the only chance they have of setting up an ongoing income is from all of the BAs bringing in Music customers. They know the Auctions don’t work. They know the Auctions were supposed to be the sticky site that would bring people into the D-community. They know that the test has failed miserably when judged by the only criteria that actually counts…’Do customers Tell-a-friend’ about the Auctions?’ The answer is a resounding NO! Hence the model proposed by Mick H has failed.
      BAs cannot sell credits. VP Tom states this, and all BAs who have been around for any time at all actually know this.
      Whatever you do, DO NOT BECOME A BA and get landed with credits like 10,000s of other BAs have.

3406. Comment by onlooker | November 2nd, 2010

      So dubtruthrevealed seems to me you are very annoyed at being kicked out of D____ and the above statement are false as BA can still sell credits to customers as you know and yes we are promoting getting customers because any business needs customers to be successfull any business or MLM without customers is dependent on profits from its BA s so stop playing with the facts just concentrate on your new business and remember you broke the rules like you did with Amway , movavita ,d___

      as you also know d___ will have 3 rd party companies advertising through mydub__/cinch offering 10 free credits for watching promotional adverts that they have already showed interest in and those credits will come from the BA s credit account once they watch the 3rd party advert

      so wise up Trevor

      your acting like a spoiled kid that got told off you where given loads of opportunity to stop crosslining people into your new bus op
      D___is the best business model with real customers and just move on

      this is m last post as i dont have time for this small talk BS

      bye

3407. Comment by butthead | November 2nd, 2010

      onlooker,

      Everything you need to know about Dumbli (the now semi-official name for “The Company Whose Name Shalt Not Be Mentioned”) is right here. Want to know about falsified customer numbers? We got ‘im. Want to read about auction results that never occurred? Well covered. Want to hear tales of astronomical projections that fell short? We got your bed time stories. Want to sit on a sharp stick and rotate? We’ll find you a suitable implement. Now please piss off as you are obviously too stoooopid for words.

3408. Comment by onlooker | November 2nd, 2010

      What ever,,, i dont have time to waste here get a life all the facts as you call them here have been doctored to make you guys look good thats why we will see when this site is closed down

      d____ will succeed and as they launch the new entertainment & search tecnology with the new rewards mall launching in the next few weeks plus names like back streetboy and loads more would not be associated with a company making up there figures as they go along

      good luck you will need it

3409. Comment by Texarse | November 3rd, 2010

      dumbli are going to try to sell music? On the internet? Are you shitting me? This is the grand money-making scheme?

      This, after itunes has already wrapped up what little amount of money there is out there to be made on people actually buying music on the internet.

      There aren’t that many people around who don’t pirate their music off the net in one way or another. The genie was out of that particular bottle in the late 90s with napster. When napster was closed down, it was gnutella clones that took up the slack. When they got sued, people migrated to piratebay and torrent files.

      The RIAA is suing everyone they can identify as filthy downloading pirates to try to force people back into using their quaint and antequated idea of paying money for music over and over again.

      So far, no one has been able to make un-piratable music and I can’t see that changing in the near future. Even apple gave that up and just hoped people would be honest.

      dumbli trying to make money from music on the internet? You’d have better luck trying to sell horsewhips in a post internal-combustion engine world.

      As an aside, recently, there’s been a few people on here moaning how this site has caused a downturn in their business, causing potential customers to avoid it like the plague…

      I’m sure if I googled hard enough, I’d find anti-google sites, anti-ebay sites, anti-paypal sites, anti-microsoft sites… Any successful business will always have detractors. (To quote a fellow Australian “Even Beethoven had his critics”)

      And, yet, despite those anti- websites, the businesses themselves seem to be going strong.

      Could it be that those businesses actually have a sustainable business model that doesn’t rely on being “almost, but not quite, honestly, not really, squint-and-you-miss-it” ponzi scheme?

      Just a thought.

3410. Comment by Jon Jon | November 3rd, 2010

      Wonderful stuff that means nothing. I can’t follow it. Too complicated. Lighten up.

3411. Comment by butthead | November 3rd, 2010

      The former CFO of “Dumbli” appears to have dumped off a good portion of his stock:

      http://secfilings.nasdaq.com/filingFrameset.asp?FileName=0001161697-10-001005.txt&FilePath=\2010\111\&CoName=MEDIANET+GROUP+TECHNOLOGIES+INC&FormType=4&RcvdDate=11%2F1%2F2010&pdf=

      From my observance his holdings being dumped pushed their stock down to $0.175 per share. Talk about thinly traded. As of that filing he still has another 60,000 shares left to go.

      Oh, and “onlooker”; you are a rewind of many a Dumbli supporter. I’m sure you will follow a similar path of disappointment. History does tend to repeat itself.

3412. Comment by onlooker | November 3rd, 2010

      for your info im involved in the business 2 yrs

      good luck

3413. Comment by Dumbo i am | November 3rd, 2010

      creddits for sale ….buy your credits here…..lots a credits for sale come and gedem…….hello anybody hey you wanna buy a credit i got heaps helooooo anyone

3414. Comment by butthead | November 3rd, 2010

      onlooker,

      So where is your Bentley convertible and lot at Cayman Brac? Did I miss the announcement? Oh, wait; I forgot; you’re still working at it. . . like every other Dumbli BA (it seemed so easy in the webinar). So, when people walk past you do they form there index finger and thumb into an “L” and put it up to their forehead? Does your dog leave the room when you try to practice the Dumbli pitch to him? Is your family’s Christmas now dependant upon you winning a unique bid auction because your Dumbli $3,195 yearly renewal maxed out your charge card?

3415. Comment by butthead | November 4th, 2010

      Continued for “onlooker”:

      For Halloween did you give out Dumbli tokens. . . only to have your house egged?

      As an ardent Dumbli supporter are you now more popular with your friends and and family or do they make you feel more like Harry Reid visiting a TEA Party rally (or, if you prefer, Rush Limbaugh at a Gay Pride parade)?

3416. Comment by yes to all that boys | November 6th, 2010

      look at you … can’t think i told you you’d find out about dubli business. I’m ready to talk.can you parrots?

3417. Comment by butthead | November 6th, 2010

      That last comment had to have been posted by Gene because, as usual, it made absolutely no sense.

3418. Comment by Casey | November 6th, 2010

      Gene’s back, with his crap.

3419. Comment by yes to all that boys | November 6th, 2010

      I’m just sayin that you boys now walk and talk in fear. Thats not a way to do business is it? Dubli has always been about positives. Shoot most of us ar in it to help our neighbors and family and help some people in poor countries because thats what Dubli does. Its a win for everyone. Again I ask beav and others, whats wrong with that? Dubli is huge now you should of joined up last year. Like I told you you don’t understand e business and viral growth. Dubli now has millions of customers spending big. Forget the auctions. All that will be phased out soon. Start building a real online business today. Just ask me how at Live Liberty .com . Thats freedom to make money.

3420. Comment by butthead | November 7th, 2010

      Gene said:

      “Forget the auctions. All that will be phased out soon.”

      Well, at least we agree about something. Let me guess; they are going to sell long distance phone calling cards. Wait! I know! They are going to sell token packages minus any way to redeem them. You just take them; mark them up; and re-sell them to the BA’s you recruit. You don’t need no stinking product; just tokens! It’s all electronic! I see it now, Gene! I see it! This is “e business”; just like you said! Nw excuse me while I check to see if their stock is still circling the drain at 20 cents a share.

3421. Comment by Jack Daddy | November 8th, 2010

      Trevor aka dubtruthrevealed,

      There are a lot of people pissed off with you and would pay to have you strung up.

      Tread carefully…

3422. Comment by Paul Lupi | November 9th, 2010

      I need all of you to listen carefully. So many of you have broken the law. You risk losing everything – jobs, houses, wives, etc. because of your foolishness. I urge all of you to withdraw everything out of your accounts and hand it over to your spouses. Transfer your home ownership to your spouse. Change your name and the name of your family members.

      Move cities or even countries. Get rid of your electronic trail. Cancel your ISp account. Create a false resume/cv and post that. Go to work and remove any references to your name is recorded. Give yourself a new nickname and change your habits completely. If you drink, stop drinking. If you don’t, then start. Dubli mustn’t find you. You don’t want to go through what they have to throw at you.

      People laughed at Scientology too.

3423. Comment by butthead | November 9th, 2010

      Scientologists have something Dumbli doesn’t have; money

3424. Comment by Texaco | November 10th, 2010

      Scientology has cool, Hollywood types lining up to join. And a series of science fiction books. And a crap movie based on said books.

      All dumbli has is a bunch of BAs blinded to the truth, some crap webinars based on… well, I’m not sure… and a dated web-portal, desperately trying to be the next ebay, amazon or itunes.

      I’m still trying to come to terms with dumbli selling music over the internet.

      What’s next? Marketing a smart mobile (or cell phone, for you United-Statesians) to try to beat the iPhone?

      A search engine to beat google?

3425. Comment by butthead | November 10th, 2010

      Texaco said:

      “What’s next? Marketing a smart mobile (or cell phone, for you United-Statesians) to try to beat the iPhone?”

      I hear they are building a super computer at DumbliLand. Something called “Collossus”; there was some mention of the “Forbin Project” and “a dozen 8088 chips”.

3426. Comment by Dave | November 10th, 2010

      LMAO at the scrawled sign stuck to a post on Punt Road in Melbourne today spruiking a ‘great work-from home business opportunity’

      Someone had stuck another sign underneath with an arrow pointing up and “I’M WITH STUPID” written on it.

      Kudos to the perpetrators although if I had actually fallen off my bike from laughing so much I might not have been so impressed…

3427. Comment by butthead | November 12th, 2010

      Dumbli is getting jacked around by it’s now bankrupt credit card processing service. They are holding up over $2,000,000 in Dumbli’s money. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

      http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1097792/000114420410059387/v202093_8-k.htm

3428. Comment by Morgan Legal Associates | November 12th, 2010

      I am here to warn all the laughing hyenas that you are in big trouble. Dubli has a long memory. We remember who are friends are. We remember our few enemies. Dubli enemies are the ne’r do wells who just can’t be happy with all the Dubli millionaires being created. Every 24 minutes someone becomes a Dubli millionaire. Those are facts. The first Dubli billionaire is just around the corner. Again, these are facts.

      Think of the million of Dubli boxes being shipped every week. Dubli will need its own courier service. Perhaps Dubli will buy Fed Ex.

      Please excuse all the Dubli purchases being delivered in your street. It does kind of crowd things in urban areas. But that’s the Dubli magic. Viral ebusiness growth. IOncredible. Jaw-dropping.

      But that’s Dubli. And it can be your reality. Jump at it.

3429. Comment by butthead | November 13th, 2010

      Over on the Dumbli blog site at whirlpool.net.au keesje came up with an interesting find: Dumbli is offerring for sale their land in the Caymans.

      http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1483559&p=9

      http://offplanplanet.co.uk/properties/Cayman%20Islands/dubli-golf-beach-resort-grand-cayman-P169/

      I’m waiting for them to sell off the office furniture. I want the CEO’s chair

3430. Comment by butthead | November 13th, 2010

      I shouldn’t have posted that about the CEO’s chair. Now all I think about is how badly I want to own it. Airfare is about $250 to Boca Raton, renting a car $50, shipping for the chair back home $100, a day of lost work $22.53. . . yep, it’s worth it!

3431. Comment by yes to all that boys | November 13th, 2010

      You never know who comes back to visit boys! ha ha. So everyone is running scared? You should of listened to me. You can still get on board. Dubli will grow. Even its current phenomenal growth is nothing compared to the 2011 plans. I tell you the truth when I say everyone can be rich with Dub li. Why not try it”? Or are you scared of money? Thats worse than fear. You dont need that.

      Live liberty for real freedom. Even while you sleep people are buying your products. Cant you see how this thing works? They click you make money. Everyones a winner with Dubli. Its the exciting new way to shop. Its global.

3432. Comment by Cornel Tame | November 13th, 2010

      Yes, Gene keep taking the chaga mushrooms. Dubli is a wonderful investment according to Gene. Apparently in his universe millions of people are clicking their mouses like crazy and zillionaires are being created daily. Dubli sounds like a sure-fire success. Do nothing and make millions!!!!

      I like the sound of that !!!! I can make money while I’m asleep !!!! In my current job I have to be at my desk !!!! That’s ridiculous !!! I’d rather do it the Dubli way – get paid for sleeping. Sounds wonderful !!!! I’ll quit my real job and take the drugs with Gene and join his fantasy world.

      Is Dubli a real company or is it a fantasy company on Second Life?

3433. Comment by Cornel Tame | November 13th, 2010

      I’m having a yard sale next weekend !!!! I’ve got a great business idea !!!!!! Everyone has to pay me 80 cents to find out what the prices are. But I’ll drop the price each time by 25 cents when someone pays me the 80 cents !!!!

      I can’t lose !!!! This way I’ll get three times the price I wanted to sell at. This is gold !!!!!!!

      Thank you Dubli !!!! Everyone come to my yard sale in Douglas, Nebraska !!!!!

      What a great business idea !!!! Why doesn’t anyone else do it???? Because they’re lousy fools !!!!!

      Walmart should do it !!! So too, gas stations !!!!! And restaurants !!!!

      No wonder Dubli is so successful with this idea !!!!!!! Brilliant !!!!!

3434. Comment by butthead | November 14th, 2010

      I think Gene folowed the white rabbit down the rabbit hole.

3435. Comment by kees | November 14th, 2010

      Comment 3431 by yes to all that boys:
      “its current phenomenal growth”

      … hmmmmm….
      http://i51.tinypic.com/2qjlhfk.jpg
      Unique Visitor numbers for September 2010: 18,492
      –> monthly change: -28.85%
      –> yearly change: -49.03%

3436. Comment by Eugene | November 14th, 2010

      Eaglescout:

      Have you heard from Dumbli’s attorneys again?

      Or are they more worried about Dumbli paying their legal bills?

      (They should be…)

3437. Comment by eaglescout | November 14th, 2010

      Yes, here is the text:

      November 10, 2010

      In our letter to -, Inc. dated October 12, 2010, we demanded that
      TheSpinFactor registrant be directed to remove all of the false and defamatory statements
      concerning MediaNet, the DubLi companies and Michael Hansen from its site by no later than
      Friday, October 22, 2010 and that the identity of the registrants be disclosed to us in accordance
      with -’s Terms of Service. Those statements were described in detail in our letter of
      October 12, along with a detailed explanation of why the statements are false, defamatory and
      malicious. To date, TheSpinFactor registrant has refused to remove the disputed statements from
      the site or to contact us to directly resolve the dispute. Instead, TheSpinFactor registrant has
      thinly disguised DubLi’s name by replacing it with GroobLi or Droobli. But the site still makes
      reference to DubLi, still falsely implies that DubLi is a “pyramid scheme,” a “complex scam,” a
      “gambling” business and a “lottery” business. The site continues to publish false and defamatory
      statements about Michael Hansen, referring to him as a “scam artist” and continues to falsely
      report that he and the DubLi companies have a history of “bankruptcy” and “fraud.” Moreover,
      the site continues to list DubLi as a sponsor of the site and when a cursor is placed over the link a
      flag stating “Pyramid Schemery and Scam Artistry” pops up.
      TheSpinFactor registrant’s failure to remove the anonymous false and defamatory
      publications after being requested to do so, and the registrant’s inclusion of new, more prominent
      false postings concerning our clients further confirm that the statements are being published with
      malice and with the specific intent to harm the professional reputation of MediaNet, Michael
      Hansen and the DubLi companies.

      We demand that you either remove all of false and defamatory statements concerning our
      clients or identify each of the TheSpinFactor registrants to us by no later than 5:00 pm. EST,
      November 12, 2010. It is our understanding that -, Inc. controls tpe content of
      registered websites and that – will make this letter available to TheSpinFactor registrant
      to facilitate timely compliance with the demands made in this letter. We look forward to hearing
      from you regarding these issues by November 12.

      Sincerely, Thomas R. Julin.

3438. Comment by butthead | November 14th, 2010

      So make the attorney supply a list of posts that are, in his mind, defamatory (create some billable hours for Dumbli). Then decide if they may be over the line and delete the offending ones (if there are any). That means all verifiable fact based posts remain which are the ones that do the most damage. Calling Dumbli a scam may require the poster to prove his position but I think keesje has documented enough to defend that position. My gut feeling is that a jury would not be very sympathetic to them after they have keesje work paraded in front of them. From the “European Success”, the “US Success”, the massive “China Launch”, the “million dollar bonuses”, the “Bentley convertible with matching Breitling watch givaway”, the now being sold off “Cayman Islands Promotion”, the paying for your BA investment by buying Visa debit cards at a discount, the strange auction results (too many to mention), the auction winners with different names but identical photos, the conflicting customer and BA counts, the realtionships with offshore banking havens (Cyprus, Dubai, Cayman Islands); it just wouldn’t be pretty for them. This attorney is no fool; he won’t take it to the mat with unclean hands.

      Which brings up another question; shouldn’t we be making some efforts to make them uncomfortable such as filing complaints with local, State and Federal authorities? I’m going to court this week as a State witness in a real estate fraud case I got started (so many fraudsters; so little time) so I’ll have a talk with the Deputy AG.

3439. Comment by Only Facts | November 17th, 2010

      Wow, you go away for a while and the action really kicks off.

      I noticed there have been no posts for couple of days now, and being after the 12th, I can only assume that Eaglescout is now in custody. If not are there any updates Eagle?

      I read the complaint by Dubli with a great deal of interest. Not only for what they said, but what was never mentioned. More on that later. I believe that Eagle is correct when he says that, at the time of posting the facts were true and current (when proven otherwise this as well has been stated). While these facts may have changed over the years, there is no need to sweep them under the carpet and pretend they never happened. Those who ignore history are bound to repeat it (paraphrasing of course).

      In relation to the gambling aspect I ask Dubli to explain, if it is not gambling why does your own UK terms and conditions state in black and white that there are elements of gaming? Is this misleading or dishonest?

      I would also ask Dubli, has Mr Hansen been in control of a company that has gone bankrupt that wasn’t a restaurant? It has been suggested on this and other sites that he has. Is this misleading or dishonest?

      Why has Dubli never supplied supported evidence of their customer numbers? If those numbers are current, why (to my best recollection) does an SEC filing state that 90ish percent of Dubli total revenue comes from the sale of credits/BA packages. If this is the case the number of actual BA’s must be in the billions and the revenues simply don’t support this. Is this misleading or dishonest?

      As mentioned before I am very interested in what was not mentioned. It has be claimed on this and other sites that Dubli has falsified testimonials and used public domain/stock photos to represent so called customers. Yet there is no mention of this claim. Is this misleading or dishonest?

      I continually ask the question “Is this misleading or dishonest?” I ask for one simply reason. The Oxford dictionary online defines SCAM as a dishonest scheme; A fraud. Is Dubli a scam? I have my opinion, you may draw your own conclusions.

3440. Comment by butthead | November 17th, 2010

      So far this attorney has written two entire letters. I’m afraid if we don’t back off he may write a third one, which, if things play out really badly, could make us all face the horrer we all truly fear. . . a fourth letter. Now I don’t know about the rest of you but the thought of potentially facing two more letters from this attorney is just terrifying. I mean, he could acuse us of bad things and threaten us some more. After all, he is an attorney so if he writes a letter on his stationary we all have to fear and obey him. . . or not. I say “or not” because at this point he doesn’t know whether or not I’m a U.S. Senator and eaglescout is “Francis the Typing Mule” (it’s actually the other way around but don’t let the lawyer know).

3441. Comment by Michael Wilding | November 18th, 2010

      This is not looking good. The drooblidiots have won. But at least we get to pick the prison we’ll be sent to.

3442. Comment by Mr Cynic | November 18th, 2010

      I restate my posting number 3378

      ” I wonder if someone got a REAL letter from a legal firm and decided to photocopy the letterhead and then type their own rubbish under it? “………….

3443. Comment by butthead | November 21st, 2010

      Well, we’re about 2 weeks away from the next MediaNet quarterly report. Judging from there stock price as of this post of 18.5 cents I’m expecting a negative report. The company was looking for a capital infusion if earnings did not increase. With the recent disclosure that their now former credit card processing company was tying up over 2 million dollars I’m hoping for the worst

      Oh, and Only Facts, just in case you haven’t been reading the prior posts I have dibs on Michael Hansen’s office chair at auction. Don’t even think about trying to snake it on me! First dibs; got it? I’m watching you. . .

3444. Comment by Charlie | November 21st, 2010

      O.K. once more for the record Dubli is a piece of shit, I speak for an entire State, Hawaii, It’s a scam and a total hoax! Please Please somebody sue me, My name is Charlie Drayer 3926 mahinahina street Lahaina Hawaii 96761 (808) 264-7114.

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3446. Comment by Caitlin Davis | December 2nd, 2010

      Hi! I’m Charlie’s girlfriend. They’ve got him. He’s in a Federal holding facility. This is terrible.

3447. Comment by Pascal | December 4th, 2010

      I am very upset how people can right about things that the don’t have any idea, if not just negative comment, with information taken out of context. I cleraly understand the purpose of this website. It’s merely made to attack with negative and out of context contain. I am a DubLi Associate and I have seen the evolution of DubLi, not only in Europe, but in North America. I know where they come from, where they are today and where they are going. Great company guys and great business model. It make sense!
      I will advise readers of this blog to sick information from successful and reliable people.

      Don’t forget, DubLi will WIN!!!
      Thanks.

3448. Comment by butthead | December 4th, 2010

      You’re welcome, Pascal. You impress me as being true “Executive Vice-President” material. In fact, better yet, you might be have what it takes to make it up the ladder with my Giant Badger Farm MLM. I was going to shelve the idea of breeding giant badgers (see my previous posts) when it was discovered there was absolutely no demand for genetically altered giant badgers when a thought occurred to me; “if Dubli can build an organization around a convoluted auction strategy that has almost no consumer acceptance except the activity by it’s own BA’s and the tokens they give away, why can’t I sell Giant Badger Super Growth Hormone to Business Associates knowing fully well the end product has no market except the BA’s themselves”? Would you like a Gold, Silver or Copper plan?

3449. Comment by Whip | December 6th, 2010

      “Hi! I’m Charlie’s girlfriend. They’ve got him. He’s in a Federal holding facility. This is terrible.”

      Yeah…it doesn’t work that way. Sorry. LOL.

3450. Comment by Felipe Carnoli | December 6th, 2010

      Hi …. ha ha ha … look like the antidroobli people are being rounded up and fined ……ha ha ha …. no one has the right to speak bad of anything …. that is libel law…

      I know this law in Malta.

3451. Comment by Gene | December 6th, 2010

      This is great Beav. I told you long ago to stop being a chump. A chump is not far from a chimp. Boy someone told you the wrong dope about Dubli and now you face the law. Shows the cream always rises to the top. You boys were just behind the times. You cant help it. You dont understand e business. I made millions with Dubli still do. Thats global power of Dubli. It keeps going But your too late. Now you have to pay the piper. Thats personal responsibility. Look it up in a dictionary. I cant do any more for you. Eagle Beave you made it happen on your selves. Next time youll think twice about it.

3452. Comment by butthead | December 7th, 2010

      Hey Gene, why don’t you go buy some of that land in the Caymans that Dubli is selling that was supposed to be used for the awards to BA’s? By the way, MediaNet’s third quarter report is overdue. I wonder why. What is that sound I hear. . . yes. . . very familiar. . . very familiar. . . a whooshing. . . whooshing. . . YES!. . . it is definitely the sound of a whooshing drain and something about to be sucked down it.

      Prediction: if MediaNet (parent company of Dubli) doesn’t cough up a quarterly report by December 31st they are toast. In fact, I’ll even speculate that if they dog it another week they are in a death spiral that they won’t pull out of.

      Message to Only Facts – once again, don’t even think about Michael Hansen’s office chair; it’s mine! You can bid your heart out for his desk at the liquidation, though.

3453. Comment by Whip | December 7th, 2010

      The problem is, the scam will never take these people to court as they would have to provide evidence that they are lying which then exposes the scam. It is all hollow threats. And no one gets ’rounded up’ for libel. It is a civil matter. No one gets ‘arrested’ as the dopes are trying to get people to believe.

3454. Comment by Maurice Beck | December 8th, 2010

      This no longer an anti-Dubli site. I want to use this site to discuss the music, lyrics, etc. of Van Morrison. I hope this ia all right with eaglescout. He’s not active with it so I don’t think he’d mind. Probably glad it’s getting some use. No one writes here anymore anyway. Too scared about the Dubli lawyers.

      Anyway, my 5 favorite Van Morrison albums are 1. Astral Weeks 2. No guru, No Method, No Teacher 3. Hymns to the Silence 4. Veedon Fleece 5. Moondance

      What do others think?

3455. Comment by Casey | December 9th, 2010

      There seems to be a few TROLLS around? DON’T FEED THE TROLLS.

3456. Comment by David H. | December 10th, 2010

      Well Mr. Beck, if this is a Van site – I like most of Van’s albums. Now I collect the bootleg live albums. Love the man.

3457. Comment by Eugene | December 10th, 2010

      Butthead:

      Regarding the delay on the Medianet quarterly report — I checked, and because Medianet’s fiscal year ends on September 30th, the next report will actually be a 10-K (annual report) rather than a 10-Q (quarterly report). (You can see Medianet’s SEC filings here: http://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/default.aspx?cik=1097792

      Last year, they didn’t file their 10-K until mid-January. They usually file an NT-10K (or NT-10Q for a quarterly report) indicating that the report will be submitted late — last year this report was submitted in later December.

      So, the next report may be a while yet. But I’m sure it will make interesting reading.

3458. Comment by butthead | December 11th, 2010

      Eugene,

      You are quite correct and I had assumed they were filing on the typical fiscal year/calender year schedule (which they are not). With a late filing they can really drag this out. The next report should be, as you stated, interesting reading.

3459. Comment by Tanya | December 11th, 2010

      I can’t believe that this empty discussion is not over! It’ve been going on for ages (since September,2008, actually).I remember I found this site when my cousin tried to involve me in Dubli- good try.
      Today I found it again by accident. What a surprise: people are still bubbling about Dubli. Unbelievable!! But I can see the only one reason WHY it is on : self advertising. So simple.

3460. Comment by butthead | December 12th, 2010

      Tanya,

      Thank you for your participation in our “empty discussion”. Your contribution has definitely helped increase the aforementioned void. You have contributed nothing and, thanks to you, we now have more of it. Well done!

3461. Comment by Bob Lowe | December 14th, 2010

      If you’re not going to comment on Van Morrison please leave !!!! Beavis/Butthead this is a Van site now. If youi want to comment on Dubli go somewhere else.

      What’s everyone’s favorite Van song? I like “Into the Mystic” and “Behind the Ritual”. “Brown Eyed Girl” is too poppy.

3462. Comment by Sheena W. | December 14th, 2010

      I googled Van and dubli and got this site. Well donr for combining the two. Kinda funny too. I like Van because he’s the real deal. Also he doesn’t need MLM to make money. He has about $159 million.

3463. Comment by butthead | December 14th, 2010

      RE: Van Morrison

      If you are going to try and hijack a thread don’t use Van Morrison, you micro-cephalic twit. Use somebody that has it going like Mike Ness (“Machine Gun BLues” from the soon to be released “Hard Times and Nursery Rhymes” album). In the mean time, MediaNet (AKA Dubli) is trading for a mere 18 cents a share.

3464. Comment by Van Fan 001 | December 16th, 2010

      This is cool just taking over another site and making it a Van site. I was just at the Van site at Fanpop and found this site. I want to put a link to this site from all my Van sites. This is starting to “cool up”. By the way I love
      “Common One”. Van was born in 1945 (August 31) in Belfast. He’s old enough to know to follow his muse.

3465. Comment by Rogain user | December 16th, 2010

      Basically I collect Van. I have 47 CD albums and 14 CD singles/eps. 17 vinyl albums and 21 vinyl singles. I’ve been to 7 concerts and I have 3 t shirts. I also have 4 different scrapbooks containing over 500 articles. Wot you got?

3466. Comment by Rogain user | December 16th, 2010

      By the way, what’s Dubli? Never heard of it!

3467. Comment by Stevie B. | December 16th, 2010

      Hey Buttface, Mike Ness is just a computer. Van has been great since he first went on the road in 1960.

3468. Comment by OnlyFacts | December 16th, 2010

      Have a look at the latest submission to the SEC. http://au.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=medg.ob It seems Dubli is doing the same thing to the US government that is has been doing to the susceptible for years. Look how many times, and in reference to what, they use the term over estimate. All pro-Dubli people must be so proud of the business prowess of their masters. I believe Gene must have been their financial controller.

3469. Comment by Foxy Lady | December 16th, 2010

      Beavis and Only Facts are real party poopers. Let’s talk Van and music and themes and concerts, and sidemen and albums and all that is pure. Droobli is no fun for anyone. It stinks and it’s time it died.

      Let’s have fun with this new Van site. We need photos and links to performances. Everyone get to work and let’s get this Van site going.

      Hey Beavis and others – go start your own anti-droobli site somewhere else. We have this place now !!!

      Keeping it real

      Another Van Fan

3470. Comment by Grover Lembeck | December 16th, 2010

      Playing with the medianet stock graphs is fun, too! I think that there’s likely evidence of a pump n’ dump back in mid December, 09′. I’m frankly astounded they managed to squeeze this particular bolus up to .90- I pretty sure .17 is about 17 cents to the high side. “A certain death spiral”, as Butthead put it. Gotta love the news story about filing form 8-K.

3471. Comment by butthead | December 17th, 2010

      Grover Lembeck,

      I just read the 8-K filed with the US Securities and Exchange Commission. OOOOOOOOOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      http://secfilings.nasdaq.com/filingFrameset.asp?FileName=0001144204-10-066808.txt&FilePath=\2010\12\16\&CoName=MEDIANET+GROUP+TECHNOLOGIES+INC&FormType=8-K&RcvdDate=12%2F16%2F2010&pdf=

      What a bunch of maroons!

3472. Comment by Morgan Legal Associates | December 17th, 2010

      We now represent Mr. George Ivan Morrison now as well as Droobli. If you say anything derogatory about either entity you face a maximum 3 year jail term. Think about the word RESPONSIBILITY posters. This is your new word for 2011. We aren’t kidding around.

3473. Comment by Raving Looney Dublidiot | December 18th, 2010

      Yeah, Droobli is great. Already it’s bigger than ebay. You can make millions of dollars just by sleeping. It has an exciting auction concept where you can pay 80 cents and then get a Rolex watch for nothing. Senior Vice Presidents (yes, it is so huge that it has Senior and Junior Vice Presidents) get a million dollar bonus and one of the Cayman Islands. Droobli There are millions of customers vying for a few products that no one wants. You gotta get on board with this thing. Droobli will probably be bigger than the US economy one day. How big is your imagination? Tired of working “for the man”? Join Droobli and then go to sleep. You’ll make millions doing nothing. Fantastic! As Gene McNeally from Douglas, Nebraska says “This thing is viral and cash streams just flow because it’s ebusiness”.

3474. Comment by Charlie | December 18th, 2010

      I heard that Mr. George Ivan Morrison is a pedophile who loves young boys as well as being an ex con who did time for rape and arson, he raped his 12 year old son and then burnt his house down, that’s just the beginning.

3475. Comment by Charlie | December 18th, 2010

      Nevermind, I feel like an idiot, I was just trying to get a rise out of post 3472, I didn’t put it together that it was Van Morrison, Sorry, I’m just dying to get sued by someone associated with Dubli.

3476. Comment by butthead | December 18th, 2010

      Well, I might as well toss in my address, too:

      1060 W. Addison Street
      Chicago, IL 60613

3477. Comment by Van Fan #45 | December 19th, 2010

      Wow Charlie. Strong words about our beloved Van. Do you fear his lawyers? Fortunately, he isn’t computer-literate but he does employ people who are. Van is a grumpy guy who rarely gives interviews. He always asks “you don’t interview carpenters why interview me?” He doesn’t care about doing interviews to push album sales. Yet he always sells. Not in Lady Gaga proportions but he sells to about 500, 000 faithful fans on each album release. He is without gimmicks and he can perform anywhere anytime. Justin Timberlake, Madonna, Adam Lambert etc, need synths, a thousand back up dancers, light shows etc.

      Van Morrison – “Real music since 1960″.

3478. Comment by butthead | December 19th, 2010

      Lady Gaga can kick Van Morrison’s ass. One “donkey punch” from her and Morrison is going down!

3479. Comment by Lady Gaga | December 20th, 2010

      This is lady Gaga,
      I too looked at this Drubli thing and my minders also found out that it is just a fraud to line the pockets Hanson and Co. Stay away from it, it will suck the life out of you….like my songs.
      And Van Morison is a GAY wanker has been.

3480. Comment by kees | December 21st, 2010

      Re. comments 3468 (Only Facts) , 3470 (Grover Lembeck) and 3471 (butthead)

      Wow, ooooops indeed!

      A few highlights from the filing:

      “On December 16, 2010, the CFO and Company’s Board of Directors concluded that the previously issued financial statements [...] should not be relied upon because of errors that require a restatement of such financial statements”

      “… the new CFO [...] discovered the following errors:”

      “… overstated revenues and misstated costs of goods sold…”

      “… certain revenue and expense transactions for the quarter ended March 31, 2010 were erroneously recorded in quarter ended December 31, 2009…”

      “… sales, deferred revenue and commissions were incorrectly recorded during each of the quarters during the year …”

      “… our previously issued financial statements for the periods identified above, overstated revenues…”

      

3481. Comment by Former M.P. | December 21st, 2010

      Lies LIes ! Keep feeding the parrots. Kaaargh. Dubli is a great company with all the biggest products. Its got growth potential that has never been seen before. Global ebusiness is the only business. Its always win win with Dubli. The auctions are just the eye candy yet thats all you talk about. So something sells for free. That happens when millions of people bid at once. It goes to zero quickly! Im waiting for the first zero dollars Mercedez Benz!

      As I said excellent products from a great company.

3482. Comment by butthead | December 21st, 2010

      kees,

      You should have included a link to show “Former M.P.” (AKA “Gene”) that these are MediaNet’s (AKA “Dubli’s”) own words. On second thought, it would probably be just a waste of time.

3483. Comment by Steve Ricks | December 23rd, 2010

      I like most of the Van stuff. I’m reading the book
      “Listening to Van Morrison” by Greil Marcus at the moment. An interesting poetic work. Got it from ebay not Dubli. Couldn’t wait for it to get to zero dollars by spending 80 cents to force the price down 25 cents a time.

      I knew a guy who spent $800 on getting a Rolex watch down in price but he never got it. That’s when he decided that maybe Dubli wasn’t going to be his path to success.

      I heard that Dubli/Medianet is featured in this month’s Fortune 500 magazine. Can anyone confirm? Also, is Van Morrison a Dubli BA?

3484. Comment by Beavis McButthead | December 23rd, 2010

      Are Tom Rozoff and Jason Switzer couple? Can they adopt? What MLM shell game are they part of now?

3485. Comment by butthead | December 24th, 2010

      “Beavis McButthead”,

      Jason Switzer has, shall we say, “moved on”:

      http://www.thesocialformula.com/

      It appears that Karl Airey is the new Bell of the Ball. As far as Dubli is concerned it also appears that Jason Switzer has conveniently ommitted his past participation with “the next eBay”. I have a little question for Jason;

      “How does it feel to know I was right, Bitch-Boy?”

      

3486. Comment by butthead | December 24th, 2010

      Sorry, thats “Belle of the Ball” in reference to Karl Airey (stupid, defective keyboard. . . ).

3487. Comment by Mac Wilson | December 27th, 2010

      Are you interested in research? Anybody? Well, I tried some to find out if droobli was the great idea everyone says. At my general store I took away all my prices and then I charged people when they asked me the price. I charged ‘em 80 cents and told ‘em the price would go down 25 cents every time they asked.

      Well it wasn’t the goldmine my friend Dave lead me to believe. I nearly lost my business just on that first day. Had to ring customers and said “sorry”. Just to keep them coming in again.

      So, my research tells me no one wants to play some kid’s game of paying 80 cents to find out what the prices are.

      My butt has more chance of being the next ebay!

3488. Comment by Casey | December 28th, 2010

      Former MP. AKA Gene said…
      “Dubli is a great company with all the biggest products. Its got growth potential that has never been seen before”.
      Truth truth. Bullshit products that you can buy elsewhere cheaper. It’s been around since 2004……Going no
      where……Never will.
      I checked your web site and you are only pushing Chaga mushrooms….What’s going on Gene, No money in Dubli?.
      Your a lot like Al Gore peddling “An inconvenient bullshit”. And like him you should be in jail for fraud.

3489. Comment by butthead | December 28th, 2010

      As mentioned before, MediaNet’s annual statement is due 90 days after the end of it’s fiscal year ending on 09/30/2010. Let’s see if they found some capital to stay afloat!

      To Gene,

      Does the term “money down the drain” mean anything to you.

      To Jason Switzer,

      “HAHA!”

3490. Comment by Dumbo i am | December 28th, 2010

      if anyone wants to do a class action against dubli count me in

3491. Comment by Jason Switzer | December 28th, 2010

      You forget – I sold out when I saw the writing on the wall. Some poor sap bought my VP position. All’s fair in love and war and marketing.

      I’ve moved on and my new business is going well. BTW, my sexuality is my own affair. Keep your collective noses out of my bedroom.

3492. Comment by Karl Wilson | December 30th, 2010

      I think you guys are stupid. My neighbor got a bike for half price last month. Dubli works and is worldwide. I’ll be getting stuff too soon. I enjoy the extra money that will roll in. I’m new to Dubli. I’ve only been in 14 months.

3493. Comment by Karl Wilson | December 30th, 2010

      I think you guys are stupid. My neighbor got a bike and a skateboard for half price last month. Dubli works and is worldwide. I’ll be getting stuff too soon. I enjoy that the extra money will roll in. I’m new to Dubli. I’ve only been in 14 months.

3494. Comment by butthead | December 30th, 2010

      Karl Wilson said:

      “I think you guys are stupid.”

      And I think I can speak for everyone here and say “we think you are stupider”.

      and Karl continued:

      “My neighbor got a bike and a skateboard for half price last month.”

      Was that a South Korean or North Korean bike?

      and Karl continued to continue with:

      “Dubli works and is worldwide. I’ll be getting stuff too soon.”

      So, you really haven’t bought a thing, have you?

      And then Karl said some other stuff that was vary close to, but not quite, completely disinteresting.

      I’m sure, well, fairly sure, that Karl did have a point to his post. I even more sure that no one cares.

3495. Comment by kees | December 31st, 2010

      In the meanwhile over at SEC:

      Filing Date: 2010-12-30
      NT 10-K: Notification of inability to timely file Form 10-K 405, 10-K, 10-KSB 405, 10-KSB, 10-KT, or 10-KT405
      http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1097792/000114420410068927/v206568_nt10k.htm

      ————–
      As previously stated on Form 8-K, filed on December 16, 2010, as amended by Form 8-K/A filed on December 21, 2010, the Company anticipates restating its financial statements for each of the quarters for the year ended September 30, 2010 and for the fiscal year ended September 30, 2009.

      As a result of such anticipated restatements, among other potential changes ***the Company anticipates significant change in results of operations*** from the corresponding period for the last fiscal year.
      ————–

3496. Comment by Casey | December 31st, 2010

      Karl Wilson said,
      “I’m new to Dubli. I’ve only been in 14 months”.
      14 months in Dubli (That’s not new) and still no cash? Wait another 14 months and you still won’t have made any, ya fool.

3497. Comment by Parrots! | December 31st, 2010

      You people are a cracked record. You talk about the timely filings and it seems Dubli is in trouble. But when you people are fined for your nastiness here you will be boosting mid-term profits! Think what you’ll be paying! You should of joined up. I told you to think about the great business model. was it too advanced to get your heads around it? Ebusiness is simple. Its win-win. Thats it. The world spending money on your site. Whats no\ot to like about it? Get in on the ground floor. Dubli has so much more potential growth. 2011 is going to be our year. Get in now! Why not go gold and in crease your profits?

3498. Comment by Gene Splicing | January 1st, 2011

      Is Gene just repeating some kind of mantra? I swear the guy is just a recorded loop.

3499. Comment by Dumbo i am | January 1st, 2011

      i just lost 3567 credits in the dubli unique bid i got zip not a bloody thing

3500. Comment by Karl Wilson | January 2nd, 2011

      Dubli is going to be a big success. I know because logically, not that many people could be lying! I’ve seen professional presentations which prove it. It’s going to bring my financial security. Also, I’ve spent to much on this thing for it to fail.

3501. Comment by M. G. Williams | January 2nd, 2011

      I feel like Karl. Dubli has to succeed so I can succeed. So all you guys with your negative posts, just stop it. I don’t care if it’ a scam or not. That doesn’t interest me. All I care about is old No. 1. Don’t like it? Grow up.

      Dubli ain’t for sissys. Wanna make some real money? ?Join Dubli today. If some people lose money so what. This is for grown-ups, kiddies.

3502. Comment by Love Tush | January 2nd, 2011

      I see the pro-Dubli crowd has become emboldened by the entrance of lawyers! This site is going to get interesting. By the way, has anyone been arrested yet? What about Charlie? Also, with Gene are chaga mushrooms a Dubli product? I don’t understand.

      I clicked on his site and it was all about chaga mushrooms curing cancer. He says chaga is 100% guaranteed. (He wants your money up front though. Just in case you die.)

3503. Comment by Karl Wilson | January 2nd, 2011

      Shut up Kees. I’ve had about enough of you.

3504. Comment by Jay Jay Disco | January 3rd, 2011

      I contacted ebay and asked them to try the interesting Dubli auction system where you paid 80 cents to check a price. They wrote “LOL” a lot.

3505. Comment by Eugene | January 3rd, 2011

      Eaglescout, any update with the attorneys?

      Or are they too busy trying to get Dumbli to pay their legal bills?

      BTW, I loved “Gene Splicing”…

3506. Comment by a John | January 4th, 2011

      eagle has been arrested. This site is self-operating.

3507. Comment by Trevaa | January 4th, 2011

      This site is ridiculous. There are millions to be made in MLM and yet, you are here reading this. Get out there and start using your family and friends. Remember, every person, every contact is a possible link in your MLM chain that can make you money.

      Remember MLMers – your god is now money. MONEY MONEY MONEY. Some of you used to follow Jesus with the hope of eternal life. Now that’s been all thrown away as you follow your new god money. Money is sweet. Money is everything. I want money.

      Don’t care who you use to make the money. Maybe Granny has some tucked away. See if you can squeeze it out of her. Go next door and pretend to your neighbor that his or her finances are “just about the most important thing to me right now”.

3508. Comment by Eugene | January 4th, 2011

      Dubli (and MLMs in general) remind me of the following quotation from Douglas Adams:

      “Why Not Share It With Your Friends?”

      “Because I Want To Keep Them…”

      I actually used this reply once when someone tried to get me involved in an MLM, and suggested that I get my friends involved.

3509. Comment by Michael Blood | January 5th, 2011

      Beavis you’re an idiot. You missed your chance to make a million with Dubli. Why so poisonous about it? You don’t want a million bucks let us make it. Just move out of the way I’m coming through to get your million bucks. You don’t want it. I’m motivated and ready to make the big bucks. My dreams are big. Dubli big. That’s the way I roll.

      Yeah I’m going to take my potential and make it big with Dubli. Stand back with mouths open in awe. Kees you’re too European. You love socialism. Well here in America it’s dog eat dog. We have no time for weakness. Weakness is for losers and I’m a winner baby. I’ve chanted so may posditive phrases I know I’m going to make it.

      Eaglescout is another killjoy. You don’t want a milloion bucks? Fine, just more for me. But Dubli is going to be so big your heads will explode.

      Gene McNealy? He’s done more harm than good for Dubli. Don’t listen to his stupid rantings. Get the real info from Dubli.com. You will surprise yourself. Try it and be amazed. You will live in white puffy clouds not in a cruel windswept planet. Winners think like this. Go Dubli.

3510. Comment by kees | January 6th, 2011

      “Stand back with mouths open in awe”

      Wow, yeah

      http://i54.tinypic.com/2s6n986.jpg

      Monthly Normalized Metrics / November 2010
      us.dubli.com:
      Unique Visitors: 19,025
      Monthly change: -41.76%
      Yearly Change -64.25%

      eu.dubli.com
      Unique Visitors: 6,456

      global.dubli.com
      Unique Visitors: 1,722

      au.dubli.com
      We do not have any data for this site

      ent.dubli.com
      Unique Visitors: 7,349

3511. Comment by Butthead | January 6th, 2011

      Where is the list of Senior Vice Presidents who were awarded a lot in the Caymans in 2010? Who won the Bentley and Breitling watch? Anyone care to answer that?

      To Michael Blood:

      You’re wrong.

3512. Comment by Eugene | January 8th, 2011

      Hmm, sudden silence borken only by the sounds of crickets after Butthead’s last post. Perhaps that struck a nerve?

      Anyway, we should see the Medianet annual report in the next week or so. That should make interesting reading.

3513. Comment by iwasduped | January 8th, 2011

      We are very happy to inform all of our business associates, that we now have another Vice President, this time in Australia.

      Mr. xxxand his lovely wife xxx qualified as Vice President in December 2010. This now means xxx and xxx may now select a lot in the beautiful DubLi Golf & Beach Resort on Grand Cayman Island. We are excited to welcome them into this prestigious resort and congratulate them on their outstanding achievement.

      Outstanding Achievement??? ….ripping people off like me!!!
      Bast…s

3514. Comment by butthead | January 9th, 2011

      The key word is “select” a lot; only -First- Vice Presidents get a free one (at least, that is my understanding). I have seen no evidence of a BA reaching that level in 2010 and winning the Bentley convertible, Breitling watch and -free- lot in the Cayman’s.

      The MediaNet stock has dropped below 16 cents per share showing that market confidence in Dubli is very weak. So who is right; Dubli BA’s or Wall Street? I’ll bet on Wall Street.

3515. Comment by justme | January 10th, 2011

      i think its about time you guys wise up and move on dubli is moving ahead weither you like it our not plus the crap you keep posting here about what you think the company will and wont do , like hello every post on this site knocks different companies ,ideas and all off the above , dubli will succeed and is moving ahead read the book on ebay and amazon once they first started people didnt think they would succeed its business in fact amazon didnt turn a profit untill nearly after 10 years move on guys plus i know ya will say something negative about what i have said but i dont care , good luck

3516. Comment by justme | January 10th, 2011

      and yes a VP qualified in germany in 2010 plus another VP in aust dec 2010 but according to you guys thats just make believe what ever

3517. Comment by butthead | January 11th, 2011

      justme,

      In six days MediaNet’s annual report is required to be submitted to the SEC (the deadline for the extended filing falls on a weekend so I believe they get until the next business day to file). We shall see if your “little company that can” has a prayer of avoiding liquidation or if it shall continue to dog paddle along. Myself; I’d be using up all of those tokens from my Gold Level mebership in a hurry. . . oh, wait; I’m not stupid enough to have bought a package into this lame brained scheme so I don’t have anything to liquidate.

3518. Comment by justme | January 14th, 2011

      now i know why they call you butthead cause thats exactly what you are ! as i mentioned above amazon didnt turn a profit untill nearly 10 yrs dubli is turning a profit now good butthead the only reason you keep posts here about dubli is too get ranked in the search engines

3519. Comment by only facts | January 14th, 2011

      Just me.

      Where are you getting your information from? It sure can’t be from the SEC or any other independent body.

      Also there is no comparison to Amazon or EBay, no matter how much dubli wishes it. This has been discussed many times on this and other threads. Dubli entered a flooded market, and relied on the tiered old MLM model. This instantly should have, and did, set off alarms bells. I am all for Network Marketing, but MLM is simply to open to abuse. It always has, and always will be. Dubli relies so much on “Going Viral” but never took into account the flip side. It is far too easy for sites like this and others to pop up and prove all their claims wrong. Dubli never had a mechanism in place to combat this, so has always been on the back foot when trying to legitimise their actions. Dubli is too slow or unwilling to debate their, so called business model, in a public forum. They leave to people such as Gene to grasp at straws; make ridicules claims in a useless attempt to defend the undependable. Dubli is not only allowing, but is very happy to have Gene be their public face. This in itself should give you a heads up on the practises of this company.

      If you wish to debate Dubli further, please supply some tangible facts, or at least investigate the facts supplied here first. If you can prove us wrong please do so. I will admit I was very wrong in one respect. I truly believed Dubli would crash and burn before this. I believed surely some government body would put a stop to it. Unfortunately, Dubli has had so little impact on the market, they are not worth investigation. I now realise Dubli will merely fade away.

3520. Comment by kees | January 15th, 2011

      justme, here’s how popular ‘D’ is compared to some other ‘fun-shopping’ sites, all started within the past 2 or 3 years:

      http://i54.tinypic.com/23ru3o2.jpg

3521. Comment by Casey | January 15th, 2011

      Well said Only Facts. Seconded.

3522. Comment by justme | January 15th, 2011

      you know and so does anyone that the figures above kees are not showing the true figures as most sites are associates sites which you cant track with tracking tools so the figures mentioned are for us dubli.com only and not including the 100,000 plus associates sites plus the global site and europe and austrila so lads get your facts right and stop playing the same broken record useless twisted figures and as for only facts comment dubli will not just fade away it has launched the entertainment division globally and has a new partner program launching 1st Q 2011 and the new search technology driving shopping mall plus movies , ebooks audio ,and games plus alot more so for your infomation keep up to date with the facts and 100 s off new products to be added too the auctions there will be alot off new incentives plus huge advancements this year with dubli globally

      good luck

3523. Comment by Eugene | January 15th, 2011

      Even assuming that it’s true that Kees’ graph doesn’t capture a lot of Dumbli’s traffic (which I doubt), that was true last year too. However you slice it, the graph still shows a significant and ongoing decline in traffic at the Dumbli site. If it was a going concern and business was increasing overall, I would expect increasing traffic to their main website, even if most of the business was being transacted elsewhere.

      Justme, I will look forward to your commentary/rationalization on the Medianet annual report, due out on Monday. I’m sure that the report will make interesting reading — Hopefully, your commentary will be equally entertaining.

3524. Comment by butthead | January 15th, 2011

      Yes kees and only facts, they have “austrila”, just like justme said. He told you because, like, “austrila” is really big, and, um, next they are going to launch in norwegia, yeah norwegia and really prove you guys wrong! And “good luck” because you losers won’t have $3,000 usd invested in your Gold Packages for this cool-like, awesome launch thing. . . YEAH! IN YOUR FACE!

3525. Comment by Just me | January 15th, 2011

      Dubli is a total joke. My partners and I were taken for a ride. Based on total BS from Hansen and crew, we delivered the celebrities and the celebrity experiences. We handed them A- listers on a silver platter and they couldn’t even capitalize on them. Backstreet Boys, Rob Thomas and Al Unser Jr’s Partner programs plus the events were all in my back office. The commissions were a total joke and then they still screwed us on commissions. Total wast of time.

      DON’T BUY THE HYPE!

3526. Comment by Just me | January 15th, 2011

      Sorry,

      I am a totally different Just me if it causes any confusion =/

3527. Comment by kees | January 16th, 2011

      justme (comment 3521), here’s the graph for all dubli portals:
      US, EU, AU, GLOBAL and ENT(ertainment):

      http://i54.tinypic.com/2s6n986.jpg

      Yep, big difference, looks MUCH better :-0

3528. Comment by justme | January 16th, 2011

      you didnt show graph for the 100,000 plus associate sites plus there independant blogs and sites ,plus the mydubli capture page that most associates now use ?

      so stil not showing true figures

3529. Comment by butthead | January 17th, 2011

      Based on MediaNet’s (Dubli’s parent corporation) last quarterly report the company only grossed slightly less than seven million dollars. Even though MediaNet admits through it’s recent 8-K/A filing they gave inflated revenue figures, I’ll roll with the seven million figure, divide by your 100,000 associates (I’ll even ignore the “plus” you added to your benefit) and come up with a figure of $70 average revenue generated per BA for the fiscal quarter ending 6/30/2010. Please note, that is a gross figure; not a net. So, if you are telling the truth, justme, buying into Dubli is a fool’s proposition. If you are lying, well, then you are a liar. Which is it?

3530. Comment by kees | January 17th, 2011

      justme:
      No matter how much BA sites there are and no matter how much visitors they get on their various pages.

      In the end, interested customers will be guided to the dubli servers through which they will connect to pages on either us.dubli.com
      eu.dubli.com
      au.dubli.com
      global.dubli.com
      ent.dubli.com
      dublinetwork.com
      dubli-connect.com
      or
      dublipartner.com
      etc.

      and all these dubli sites show quite low unique visitor numbers.
      Here are the latest (December 2010) figures btw:

      http://i54.tinypic.com/6s4dgx.gif
      http://i56.tinypic.com/2ilnbqx.gif

3531. Comment by Only Facts | January 17th, 2011

      Justme

      Can you direct me to an independent site that will verify any of Dubli’s claims? Keeping in mind their latest SEC filing. By their own admission their numbers are exaggerated, so why would you still believe them? If it were me, I would be contacting Dubli insisting on the true numbers as well as insisting on conformation from an independent source.

      For those of you thinking about a refund, this a perfect time based on Dubli’s admission.

3532. Comment by justme | January 17th, 2011

      hey i think you guys dont understand our business model plus we arent the 1st company that had a rough time and made it which we will here is a link to the history and success of amazon

      http://www.seattlepi.com/business/158315_amazon28.html

      good luck

3533. Comment by only facts | January 17th, 2011

      justme

      Firstly we understand the model all too well. The problem is, with respect, people such as yourself seem to think it’s some revolutionary innovative system and nothing could be further from the truth. In fact Hanson has been trying this for 9 years that we know of, with failure after failure.

      As mentioned before you cannot compare Dubli with Amazon. I quote your own source “Amazon was probably the first truly worldwide community that was built online,”

      I thank you for that source, but where are the sources showing the true numbers? Can’t find any? You won’t. Nobody has ever been able to in the 3 years I’ve been aware of Dubli. Does that not suggest something to you?

3534. Comment by Eugene | January 19th, 2011

      Does anyone know how soon reports submitted to the SEC appear on the EDGAR sites?

      Given the delays in releasing the annual report (and the previous reports stating that Medianet’s incomes for all of the quarters of the fiscal year would need to be “restated” over what was previously reported), you have to wonder what’s going on.

3535. Comment by butthead | January 20th, 2011

      I think you have only three possible answers as to why MediaNet’s annual report has not appeared on EDGAR in a timely manner:

      1. EDGAR is delayed (not likely)
      2. Incompetence in Medianet’s management
      3. Conscious decision not to disclose

      I vote for number 3 because I believe they have some really severe cash flow problems. If it is number 3 you can flush this turd right down the toilet

3536. Comment by Eugene | January 20th, 2011

      Regarding comapies with late SEC 10-K filings:

      “For example, Alford et al. (1994) note that firms often delay 10-K disclosures because of financial distress. Specifically, Alford et al. document that delayed 10-K filings are associated with smaller firms with higher financial leverage, lower liquidity, and lower returns on equity relative to firms that file timely 10-K reports.”

      Hmm, doesn’t sound good.

3537. Comment by Eugene | January 20th, 2011

      Regarding companies with late SEC 10-K filings:

      “For example, Alford et al. (1994) note that firms often delay 10-K disclosures because of financial distress. Specifically, Alford et al. document that delayed 10-K filings are associated with smaller firms with higher financial leverage, lower liquidity, and lower returns on equity relative to firms that file timely 10-K reports.”

      Hmm, doesn’t sound good.

3538. Comment by Only Facts | January 24th, 2011

      It’s been 8 days since I asked justme to supply a source for Dubli’s numbers, and what should not come as a surprise to those who have followed this thread, he has been strangely quiet. Perhaps it’s harder than he thought, or he is too busy making millions to be troubled by such a trivial matter.

      Anyway eagerly awaiting SEC report.

      Beavis.

      I think this is what your waiting for!

      http://cgi.ebay.com.au/New-Black-Fabric-Executive-Desk-Office-Chair-w-Swivel-/380310971528?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588c4ce488

3539. Comment by butthead | January 25th, 2011

      I was hoping it would look more like this:

      http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/media/17314/The-throne-of-Tutankhamen-with-carved-figures-of-the-young

3540. Comment by Eugene | January 26th, 2011

      A new update in the Medianet saga:

      Evidently, Medianet is on the verge of being kicked off the Over The Counter Bulletin Board (where Medianet stock is traded). This is because Medianet has not yet filed the required annual report with the SEC. The stock symobol (normally MEDG.OB) is now designated MEDGE.OB to reflect this. The listing is here:

      http://www.otcbb.com/DailyListContent/delistings/OTCBBDelOpenReport.pdf

      If this situation is not addressed by February 16th, the stock will be delisted.

      In possibly related news, the stock is trading at an all time low of $0.15/share.

      Anyone want to start a deadpool?

3541. Comment by butthead | January 26th, 2011

      Nice!

3542. Comment by kees | January 27th, 2011

      Wow, exciting times for MEDG(E).

      Well, let’s see, they only have to restate their financial statements for each of the quarters for the year ended September 30, 2010 and for the fiscal year ended September 30, 2009 … shouldn’t be too time consuming…

      Btw, here’s the official SEC rules regarding the added “E” in the ticker symbol:
      http://www.sec.gov/answers/eadded.htm

      I can remember at least 1 additional time in the past 1 or 2 year(s) that they had an “E” added in their ticker symbol for a brief period of time…. according to the SEC rules they shouldn’t make a habit of it, or they run additional risks of being delisted as a penalty.

      Btw, the all time low for Medg was 4 cents, occuring in Januari, March and June 2009 (see 5-year graphs at e.g. yahoo-finance)

      Go Dubli, you can do it, you still got almost 3 weeks to sort out your financials over the past 2 years

3543. Comment by kees | January 27th, 2011

      Blast from the past:

      Dubli Newsletter November 2006
      http://www.dublitrading.com/dubli_newsletter_latest_all.htm

      ————————————-
      DubLi is planning on hitting the first major milestone with 1 million users on the portal during 2007. For 2009 we are aiming for 10 million.

      The goal for the number of shops in 2009 is 100,000.

      For 2008 we predict 100 million Euro in retail sales. We are going for the 500 million Euro mark in 2009 and will then continue for the 1 billion Euro milestone.

      Revenue is set to pass the 100 million Euro mark during the year 2009.

      [...]

      In his closing remarks, Preben Westergaard talked about how the value of DubLi’s shares will certainly increase dramatically once the first goals have been met.

      DubLi’s financial advisor, OIB International, which is responsible for the technical analysis of the shares, has favoured the recommendation “strong buy”.

      ————————————-

      … OIB International…? Dubli’s financial advisor…?
      Why does that sound familiar…?

      Ah yes… here’s why:
      (see: global.dubli.com/info/15-Management)

      Kent Lee Holmstoel
      Chairman
      MA in finance, 25 years of top level management experience. He has for more than a decade worked as a strategic advisor and board member in fast growing international companies.

      Mr. Holmstoel has prior experience as managing director in an IT company and was recently a director in OIB International. He is also a recognized author on financial subjects.

      ———————–

      It all fits together

3544. Comment by kees | January 27th, 2011

      Btw… (as a reminder) … “DubLi’s shares” … in 2006…?

      Ah yes, now I remember again… the famous Dubli “units” sold to excited BA’s, exclusively through the ‘dubli-invest’ website, as pictured here on an archived page in the web-archive:

      http://i53.tinypic.com/dbs9vs.jpg

      Dubli would even give you a loan to be able to purchase them But why would Dubli BA’s need a loan? The ‘units’ were only Eur 1.30 a piece

      And what has become of the original Dubli shares…?
      What does the dubli-invest site say presently…?

      see: http://www.dubli-invest.com/

      … ahhh… mmmm… okay…

3545. Comment by Eugene | January 27th, 2011

      Kees:

      I hadn’t realized that Medianet had gotten an “E” before.

      There are additional rules for companies that get the “E” more than once, even if they do eventually file their report and get the “E” removed (as I assume that Medianet did last time). Quoting from:

      http://www.otcbb.com/faqs/otcbb_faq.stm

      “How does the three strikes ineligibility rule work in practice? Pursuant to NASD Rule 6530(e), any OTCBB issuer that is delinquent in its reporting obligations three times in a 24-month period and/or is actually removed from the OTCBB for failure to file two times in a 24-month period is ineligible for quotation on the OTCBB for a period of one year. For a security to be eligible for quotation on the OTCBB, NASD Rule 6530 requires, in part, that the issuer of the security is required to file reports with the Commission or that the issuer of the security is a bank or savings associations (or holding company for such entities) that is not required to file reports with the Commission and, instead, makes filings with its applicable regulator. In addition to the foregoing, the issuer of the security must be current in its reporting obligations, subject to a 30 or 60 day grace period, as applicable. An OTCBB issuer will be deemed delinquent in its reporting obligations if the issuer fails to make a required filing when due or has filed an incomplete filing. In order for a filing to be complete, it must contain all required certifications and have been reviewed or audited as applicable, by an accountant registered with the Public Company Accounting Oversight Board.”

      As far as all-time lows go — I was really thinking of the all-time low during the time that Medianet has owned Dubli. Thanks for the clarification.

      All in all, it isn’t looking too good for Medianet or Dubli.

      It’s funny how the rabid Dubli partisans are suddenly all very quiet. I wonder why that is…

3546. Comment by kees | January 27th, 2011

      Hi Eugene, yes, I clearly remember it had an added E (for a relatively short time, maybe only a few days) and also, just like now is the case, the comments section on the yahoo-finance board was ‘unlinked’… back then I didn’t understand why the ticker symbol had changed and then reverted back again … thanks to you I now know

      I have confidence that Dubli will (be able to) file at least *something* before Feb 16th… but I am quite curious *what* it will be

      Furthermore it is interesting to note that the SEC apparently has read through sites like the private blog of former CEO Martin Berns, in order to check the accuracy of some of Medianets earlier filings and statements, as can be read in a few of the “UPLOAD” (SEC generated letters) documents over at
      http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?company=MediaNet+Group+Technologies&match=contains&CIK=&filenum=&State=&Country=&SIC=&owner=exclude&Find=Find+Companies&action=getcompany

3547. Comment by justme | January 27th, 2011

      the reason we dont reply is we ve had enough of the twisted facts you post here as you speak dubli has held its first dubli day in poland with over 2000 associates and one in russia with over 3000 associates and the 5th dubli day in germany on the 5th feb with figures of around 3000 associate and have already had dubli days in america , OZ , so as you post the rubbish here as we are building our businesses

      maybe you should post about something of interest like the new global money to replace the dollor as the dollor wont be the world reserve money within a short period of time or post about the banks as they have done more damage at least dubli is providing a service for consumers wiether you except that or not

      good luck

3548. Comment by Only Facts | January 27th, 2011

      Justme

      Do you intend to show some independent sources for your figures? Or are you simply going to ignore the request like all the others.

      While I’m on…….Hold on to your hats……..another launch is on it’s way. According to my sources, it must be that time again to hook the BA’s and stop them from jumping ship, Dubli intends to release a Credit Card. This should be fun.

3549. Comment by kees | January 27th, 2011

      Ah, nice, finally the Dubli Credit Card

      And finally also Dubli-EU has launched another convincing lucky ‘customer’ in their testimonials section

      http://i54.tinypic.com/fllsh3.jpg

      … ooops… no, again no ordinary innocent ordinary customer…. seems she was a BA already at least in October 2010

3550. Comment by kees | January 27th, 2011

      And what’s worse… this Julia Tilinga is a BA from Russia, but according to the Dubli-EU site they don’t even ship or deliver to Russia…

      and… the shipping costs for this 46″ TV is 10 points…
      If you live in the UK this means shipping costs are a staggering Eur 225.95 … imagine what the shipping costs to Russia would be …

      see combined screenshot:
      http://i53.tinypic.com/1zzhqx0.jpg

3551. Comment by justme | January 27th, 2011

      here is what DHL charges for me to send the same product to dubli office in berlin
      Where are you shipping to *Germany 12435 BERLIN
      Choose the DHL Express service you prefer.
      Please note the DHL Terms & Conditions of Carriage for Air Express.
      Please note. Transit times are in working days only.
      Local holidays and customs delays are excluded.
      Options
      Product Transit time Earliest collection date VAT
      Total Price
      Option 1:DHL Express 9:00 2Days 28.01.2011 21% vat EUR 343.58
      Option 2:DHL Express 12:00 2Days 28.01.2011 21% vat EUR 294.57
      Option 3:DHL Express Worldwide EU 2Days 28.01.2011 21% vat
      EUR 282.92

      and dubli only charge me EUR 182.95 10 shipping points to my home
      saving over a EUR 100 option 2 & 3 compared with DHL and over EUR 160.00 option 1 if i shipped it with DHL
      so twisting the facts again i see , dubli is actually cheaper than DHL

      and yes Julia is a BA and she saved 767.80 on this 46 inch tv so even if she spend the shipping with DHL EUR 300.00 plus EUR 150 on credits she still saved EUR 317.00 and we use our own service because of the huge benifits and savings i have bought loads of products from dubli with great savings

      as to the figures i mentioned they are on the dubli site and online

      good luck

3552. Comment by justme | January 27th, 2011

      and yes the Global site ships to the rest of the world outside of
      EU dubli , US dubli Au,dubli ,

      Global ,dubli they service and deliver worldwide hint hint

      thats why its caled the Global dubli site

      think about it before you write it hahaha

3553. Comment by kees | January 27th, 2011

      Yes justme, we’re all twisting the facts here, and only you and Dubli are right… right?

      Good luck to you too, we don’t need it, but you might…

3554. Comment by Only Facts | January 27th, 2011

      Justme

      Thank you for your response but I think you misunderstood the question. The important term in my question was “independent source”. You can hardly claim Dubli is independent. You also mention “& online” I assume you are referring to a source that is not, or has no connection to, Dubli. If so could you please supply these sites, I would be very interested to read them. It is very important to research any claim positive or negative. To offer an example, Eaglescout claimed Dubli went Bankrupt in Denmark, I would not have necessarily believed him if he had not been able to supply a link to the Danish authority that clearly states that Dubli did in fact go Bankrupt. This he did.

      Kees has claimed that Dubli testimonials may be falsified. I would not have necessarily believed him if he had not been able to supply a link showing some of the photos, of these so called happy customers, were in fact stock images from the net. An email from a so called happy customer stating she had not made the testimonial and Dubli had authored it themselves (she demanded the testimonial be removed, which it was). And also several so called happy customers, all with different names yet the photos were of the same person. This he did.

      There has been many, many, many negative claims made on this and other sites that can and have been proven by an independent source. On the flip side however, not once has any body been able to supply an independent source to prove a Dubli claim. Please justme, be the first. Surely for such a wonderful, successful, innovative company like Dubli it can’t be that hard. If it is that hard I suggest you ask yourself WHY?

3555. Comment by justme | January 28th, 2011

      not one claim every made on this site has been postive just above kees tries to make out that dubli profit from charging higher rates on shipping which i supplies the rates DHL would have charged for the same package and proved that it was a false claim ,in fact as you can see from the above post DHL rates where way above what dubli charge between EUR 100 & EUR 160 more

      so that is the type of false claim made here to make dubli look bad in the consumers perspective and also anyone looking at it as a business !!!!

3556. Comment by butthead | January 29th, 2011

      justme,

      You sure told kees off. Great work. You successfully ignored every fact-based argument presented to you and managed to regurgitate a few webinar half-truths to demonstrate that you are, without a doubt, a fucking Dublidiot. Congratulations on attaining the “Dubli Special Sheep” level, too (only obtainable by exceeding the gullability of the average barnyard sheep). After your harangue a friend or relative or two into joining your “bigger than Ebay” scheme I’ll bet you can achieve the coveted “Dubli Deusche” ranking (“Hi” Gene!).

3557. Comment by Only Facts | January 29th, 2011

      Justme

      I’m afraid you’re incorrect. There have been many positive comments on this site regarding Dubli. Unfortunately, for dubli, the vast majority have been proven wrong. As far as shipping is concerned I do not have enough information to make a judgement. However I do not have a problem if Dubli is in fact making a profit on shipping. It’s called a handling charge and is very common. This, to me, is the least of Dubli’s problems. I find extremely interesting, yet common, that you have chosen not to answer my other questions, debate the information supplied or been able to show me one independent source. Don’t you think if Dubli was as wonderful as it’s made out to be the press would be all over it? In fact I am only aware of two independent news articles every written on Dubli. Both in the Brisbane Times and both hardly positive.

      When a company is caught out lying, this should ring alarm bells. When a company is caught out lying as much as Dubli has in the past, it is not very difficult to formulate a conclusion. Personally the lies regarding the bankruptcy in Denmark and the claim that it is not gambling, both of which have been proven, convinced me that Dubli is not a reputable company. The exaggerated claims of customer and BA numbers that simply don’t add up when you look at the SEC lodgings, and that was even before their admission of over inflation, was simply the icing on the cake.

      I strongly suggest you hit the Ctrl and F keys, type in Bob and following his journey. This, in my opinion is a highly intelligent gentleman.

      Remember justme it’s not too late to get a refund, it will be very shortly, but not yet.

3558. Comment by justme | January 30th, 2011

      there you go again stating rubbish facts as you claim them dubli have answered these so called facts they have proving them and you always twist them here

      good luck had enough with the rubbish here my time is more important

3559. Comment by butthead | January 30th, 2011

      justme said:

      “good luck had enough with the rubbish here my time is more important”

      Reeeally!? Your time is more important? I don’t think so. At this point anyone whose time is important and has considered the Dubli investment has invested at least a little bit of their time to investigate Medianet, aka “Dubli”. And you don’t have to dig very deep to find big, fat, flaming red flags that say “run away from these kneebiters”. Their own flipping SEC filings taken at face value would scare off any sane individual. You are just, how can I say. . . stupid. Yes; that’s it. Stupid it is. Without question, that label should be permanently tattooed on your forehead. Feel free to spell it any way you like but if your forehead is big enough you might try “stoooopid”. You can also go with simply “dumb” if you are a micro-cephalic (less letters; saves space).

3560. Comment by Only Facts | January 30th, 2011

      Justme

      Lets take the gambling aspect. How exactly have they proven it’s not?

3561. Comment by Eugene | February 1st, 2011

      Well, we’re two weeks past the deadline for Medianet to file their delayed annual report with the SEC.

      Still no report. And in fourteen days, if no report gets filed, then the stock gets delisted.

      Then what?

3562. Comment by kees | February 2nd, 2011

      I’ve found the earlier “delinquent” late-fling dates for MEDG:
      http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dailylist_search.asp?DirectSymbol=MEDG&OTCBB=OTCBB

      18 NOV 2009
      24 AUG 2010
      and the most recent one 14 JAN 2011

      so… this is the thrid time in a 2-year period, and the second one in a 1-year period…

      SEC has this to say:
      (www.sec.gov/answers/eadded.htm)
      ——————————–
      “Specifically, if an OTCBB-quoted company is delinquent in filing complete required annual and quarterly reports with the applicable regulator three times in the prior two-year period, quotations of a security on the OTCBB will be prohibited until the company has timely filed in complete form all required reports due in a one-year period.”

      “Further, if a security is removed from the OTCBB twice in the prior two-year period, the security is subject to removal from quotation on the OTCBB until the company has timely filed in complete form all required reports due in a one-year period. For more detailed information, please read FINRA Rule 6530.”
      ——————————–

      My understanding is – if MEDG(E) passes the deathline of Feb 16, and no report is filed – that it will be delisted for at least 1 year. If in that 1 year all subsequent reports are file in time it may/will get its listing back on the OTCBB…?

      But I have confidence MEDG(E) will meet the deadline, and tell us all we want to know

3563. Comment by kees | February 2nd, 2011

      or maybe the dates were
      20 NOV 2009
      26 AUG 2010
      19 JAN 2011
      ?

      anyway, it’s 3 x in 2 years

3564. Comment by ParrParrot feeding timeot feeding time | February 4th, 2011

      You guys arecstill at it. LOL. You guys dont know wich way is up. I

3565. Comment by Only Facts | February 7th, 2011

      Not trying to be funny, I had no doubt that Dubli would make the cut off date but with only 6 days to go it’s going to be tight. Already I’m hearing the Dubli spin from the last remaining BA, “Dubli did nothing wrong it’s all medianets fault”.

      It’s such a shame justme followed all the other Dubli fails….can’t answer the questions, wont answer the questions, believe in blind faith, the entire world wide business community is wrong. Time to go now too busy for this.

      Gene

      We may not know which way is up, but we know which way is down. It’s the direction the arrows point on the Medianet stock page. You must be so proud of this innovative/dynamic company.

3566. Comment by Eugene | February 7th, 2011

      Did anyone watch Medianet shares trade today?

      It was a rollercoaster ride, with 12.5 times the normal trading volume. The shares went up 5 cents, then back down 4 cents, to finish the day one cent up.

      Does anyone have any idea why there was such an extraordinary trading day? My own personal theory is that someone arranged a pump-and-dump to inflate the value of the stock and shed their holdings before the bad fiscal news comes due.

      Oh yeah, Medianet still hasn’t filed its annual report. Only nine more days to go (if no report is filed), and the stock will be delisted. Can they come up with an annual report in time? And given what we all suspect is in the annual report, will it be curtains, one way or the other?

      Incidentally, Medianet is now so late with the annual report that soon they will have to file a form with the SEC explaining why the next quarterly report is being filed late.

      Dubli apologists, your explanations/rationalizations/denials for the above information would be welcome. We’re all ears.

3567. Comment by Only Facts | February 7th, 2011

      Eugene

      Wait and see if there are any changes within the “Management team” this is usually a good indication of the reasoning behind Pump & Dump. After I sold my shares (bought at 9 sold at 70ish) there was a lot of action, and director changes. The stock peaked at $1ish then simply deflated.

3568. Comment by kees | February 8th, 2011

      It seems they have ?secretly? launched their (beta?) EU version of the shopping mall… as far as I can tell it’s only accessible via this link:

      de.mall.dubli.com/ (add http) (“de” is the country webcode for deutschland/germany)

      A few observations:

      * The official eu.dubli.com site still has no link to any shopping mall

      * At the top of this “de.mall.dubli” site are the icons that are supposed to link to the other dubli sites (eu, us, au and global), but the underlying link to the eu.dubli site has a wrong url: eu.de.dubli.com, which gives a “Server not found” message

      * You can choose to view the page either in “Deutsch” or “English”, but all product descriptions are still only in deutsch/german

      * When clicking here and there you’ll regularly get a “register for free” pop-up banner, just click “continue” to browse further without having to register

      * The only shops present appear to be all german

      * When doing a few searches via the search-box at the top of the page I can’t immediately be pursuaded to consider this as the new & better google/ebay/amazon/yahoo

3569. Comment by kees | February 8th, 2011

      pursuaded = persuaded

3570. Comment by kees | February 8th, 2011

      But, to be honest to Dubli, they do have some pretty exotic stuff hidden in their search engines …

      In the category “music” you can find this comfy “Music chair for Seniors” with built-in speakers (so you can ‘experience music & vibrations directly in your body’) for only 1,998.00 euros

      http://de.mall.dubli.com/products/detail/id/4044475070935

3571. Comment by kees | February 8th, 2011

      Ahhh, they have just uploaded a press release about the new german shopping mall (I had found it via some messages on twitter)… this may explain the sudden upsurge in stock volume yesterday … some insiders probably knew ahead and got all exited …

      http://finance.yahoo.com/news/MediaNet-Group-Technologies-iw-2969463382.html?x=0&.v=1

3572. Comment by Eugene | February 8th, 2011

      Given the announcement about the latest “launch”, I’m now sure that was the cause of the surge in Medianet shares on Monday.

      So, instead of pump-and-dump, the surge was due to insider trading. What wonderful business ethics.

      Does this German shopping mall actually represent something new, or is it just repackaging?

3573. Comment by kees | February 9th, 2011

      Well, according to the press release it’s “new search technology” and it “uses sophisticated Business Intelligence”, but I myself can’t tell how new or how sophisticated or intelligent it really is.

      What I do notice however is terms like ‘zanox’ and/or ‘zanpid’ appearing in the urls that lead me from Dubli’s german mall to the actual shops that sell the actual products.

      Google them and you’ll find that Zanox apparently is a european affiliate marketing service (probably/possibly much like mMdianetgroup/BSP Rewards)… sounds like yet another extra affiliate/cashback/commission-’middle man’ incorporated in the already MLM-based quest for low shopping prices through Dubli …?

3574. Comment by kees | February 9th, 2011

      Regarding the remarkable surge in stock volume 1 day prior to the latest press release: that does look suspicious… maybe the SEC has noticed it also, and will investigate…

      One could also contact MEDGE’s investor relations firm Cameron Associates, and ask them about it:

      www. cameronassoc.com/clientmedg.html

3575. Comment by kees | February 10th, 2011

      Although I’m critical of Dubli/Medg(e), I also try to be fair in my critique, and to be fair them:

      the sudden surge in transaction of shares last monday Feb. 7 (one day before the press release about the newly launched german shopping mall came out) was less mysterious/suspicious than originally thought.

      It appears the german shopping mall was already launched and presented online last saturday Feb. 5, during the 5th german Dubli day, as is reported here:

      Dubli Day Nr. 5 – 5. Februar 2011
      obtainer-online.com/dubli_day_nr._5_3_1104_DE.html (add http)

      my translation of the relevant part:
      “The Dubli Shopping mall, already announced in/for Oct/Nov 2010, was launched/switched on live and presented online.”

      original quote in german:
      “Die bereits für Oktober/November 2010 angekündigte Dubli-Shoppingmall wurde live geschaltet und online präsentiert.”

      Thus on Monday Feb 7 (the day of the surge in Medg(e) shares) the mall was already online + it was already public knowledge to at least some of the BA’s present at the 5th Dubli day on Feb 5.

3576. Comment by justme | February 10th, 2011

      wrong again the company decided to hold back the new search engine,compare,and save technology shopping mall untill feb 7th and will be rolling it out into the states ,Canada Aus, and new Zealand over the 3rd quarter and the surge in the stocks its just the markets for you , plus they upgraded the entertainment platform now we also have access to the largest streamed music with 18 million songs plus 44,000 radio stations which is also the largest worldwide all for only 7.95 per month plus launching the flash games platform before the end off the month and they will roll out the new shopping mall to the rest of europe and the rest of the world over the next 12 months

3577. Comment by Only Facts | February 10th, 2011

      Nice to have you back justme. Could you answer my questions now please.

3578. Comment by Live Liberty For Freedom | February 10th, 2011

      You guys are amazing! I leave for awhile and I come back and your doing it all again. Its not right and you it. “Justme” keep going with the truth and you will always be a winner. No problem. In 2012 Dubli will be the world’s largest product enducer. The Graphs show it. I kid you not. Get on board this thing. The bumpy ride is over.

3579. Comment by butthead | February 11th, 2011

      Apparently some of the posters failed to catch Medianet’s last quarterly report (you know, the one before the now still long overdue annual report). I will politely spell it out:

      DUBLI NEEDS SOME MONEY OR THEY ARE IN DEEP DOODOO!!!!!

      There, I saved you a lot of research and reading (like you Dublidiots do research or even bother to read). By the way, where is that annual report that is now inexplicably overdue?

3580. Comment by Texarse | February 11th, 2011

      I’ve been away for a while, and I come back and I find that dubli/Medianet is still a going concern (though, I’m not sure for how long) and that their share price is now at $0.14.

      Hell, I wish I’d bought shares back in mid 2008 when they were $0.04, because I’d be rolling in dough at the moment.

      Of course, If I’d bought at almost any other time, I’d be rolling in “D’oh!”.

      PS Anyone heard from Steve Zammit lately? How’s he going? Making “good money”, I wonder?

3581. Comment by kees | February 12th, 2011

      Oh my… latest Compete Unique Visitor numbers, for January 2011:

      (screenshot):
      http://i56.tinypic.com/2lw3xfs.jpg

      previous month: Dec 2010:
      http://i53.tinypic.com/5orvxs.jpg

3582. Comment by Eugene | February 12th, 2011

      In looking at Kees’ graphs of visitors to the Dubli sites, I wonder how many of the visits to the Dubli sites captured on the graphs are actually skeptics directed there from either here or the Whirlpool sites.

      This suggests that the number of peple visiting Dubli with the intent of actually trying to win/purchase something is even lower than the graphs suggest.

      There have been a few press releases from Dubli/Medianet this week, but still no sign of an annual report. If there isn’t a report released by the 16th, the stock will be delisted from the OTCBB. Interestingly, I think that the 15th will be the day that Medianet will also have to file a report with the SEC explaining that the next quarterly report (for the quarter ending December 30th) is being submitted late.

      In any event, you have to wonder about a company offering a 2.5 million dollar bonus, when its entire capitalization is only four million dollars (with the share price at 0.14).

      Anyway, the next week should be interesting…

3583. Comment by butthead | February 13th, 2011

      Eugene said:

      “In any event, you have to wonder about a company offering a 2.5 million dollar bonus, when its entire capitalization is only four million dollars (with the share price at 0.14).”

      Maybe their contest shoud be:

      “If you reach Senior Vice President you win the company.”

3584. Comment by Only Facts | February 13th, 2011

      Allow me to preface the following by stating it is rumour. I have no documentation to back up any claim, so take it as you will.

      It has been suggested to me that all is not well in the Dubli hierarchy. Out of business hours phone calls are running hot questioning the CEO’s ability to lead the company. In the past, those Directors/Management and high end BA’s that were not happy simply left. Apparently now however, there are those testing the waters for a potential no confidence vote. If Dubli does not make the SEC deadline, there will be a mass evacuation. If it does make the deadline, there very well may be a new CEO.

      Interesting.

      Also Gene, is there any truth to the rumour that the reason you have started using ridiculous pseudonyms, is because you were officially warned to stop posting on this site due to the damaged you have done to Dubli?

3585. Comment by Live Liberty For Freedom | February 13th, 2011

      You gotta stop all these facts that you put a spin on things. Time to move on. You couldn’t stop a great company. Where did your graphs come from? Scampedia I bet. Dubli is going so strong now. If your graphs are right Dubli couldn’t operate and it does so your information is dead wrong.

3586. Comment by Delusional | February 13th, 2011

      Live Liberty for Freedom – three days until the stock gets delisted for failure to lodge accounts. Sounds like they’re going reaaaaally strong. Best put your head back in the sand until the dust settles, this is going to be messy.

3587. Comment by butthead | February 14th, 2011

      Gene (aka “Live Liberty for Freedom”) will be staring at the dubli.com “404 error” and still think they are in business

3588. Comment by kees | February 14th, 2011

      In the meantime, just for fun while we all await the belated 10-k Filing, here’s some of the BA leaders seriously enjoying the millionairs life in the Boca Raton Company Pool:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usrBDWzod-o

      Translation of the (german) vid description:

      “Experience the California Dream-boys in their training for the 2088 Olympics. Pay attention to the doggedness .. the typical MLM counting .. the Titanic-like water displacement .. This is study material for the next generations!”

      note: the two overly-tanned guys are Jörg Wittke & Thomas Schmitz, leaders of the german Allstars United (BA) team.

      

3589. Comment by Eugene | February 14th, 2011

      Today is the official deadline for Medianet to file their annual report, apart from the two day grace period.

      Less than 48 hours for Medianet to either file a report, or get delisted. Which will it be?

3590. Comment by kees | February 15th, 2011

      Ooopsss…

      http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dailylist_search.asp?DirectSymbol=MEDGE&OTCBB=ALL

      SECURITY DELETIONS
      Dl Date Symbol Company Name Effective Date/Comments
      2/15/2011 MEDGE MediaNet Group Technologies, Inc. Common Stock 2/16/2011 Failure To Comply With NASD 6530; Added to NBB (MEDG)**

3591. Comment by Only Facts | February 15th, 2011

      Kees.

      In my limited knowledge the deletion is only from NASD (National Association of Securities Dealers) and not the SEC. They still have 1 day left. The NASD is a self-regulatory organisation of the securities industry responsible for the operation and regulation of the Nasdaq stock market and over-the-counter markets. While it’s not the death knell. The bell choir are defiantly warming up.

3592. Comment by kees | February 15th, 2011

      Hi Only Facts, agreed, they only will get delisted from the Over The Counter Bulletin Board (OTCBB)… actually I don’t know if that also means their stock can’t be sold or bought anymore through the present brokers…

      Medg(e) will have all the opportunity to file their late Forms with the SEC whenever they want. As far as I understand they can apply for an OTCBB listing/quoting again after they have filed all the regular necessary files (10Q, 10K, etc) on time for the next year…

      see e.g. http://www.sec.gov/answers/eadded.htm
      “Specifically, if an OTCBB-quoted company is delinquent in filing complete required annual and quarterly reports with the applicable regulator three times in the prior two-year period, quotations of a security on the OTCBB will be prohibited until the company has timely filed in complete form all required reports due in a one-year period.”

      But one thing is for sure: it’s not-so-good publicity wise

3593. Comment by Live Liberty for Freedom | February 16th, 2011

      You guys are idiots. They listed and now you got to eat crow. So now whose a failure? Its time to play with the big boys. You have got time.

3594. Comment by kees | February 16th, 2011

      try finance.yahoo.com for either MEDGE or MEDG and you’ll get this:

      http://i55.tinypic.com/15dsakz.jpg

3595. Comment by kees | February 16th, 2011

      Looks like they’re now traded on the “pink sheets”

      http://www.otcbb.com/faqs/otcbb_faq.stm
      What is the difference between OTC, other-OTC and OTC Bulletin Board (OTCBB)? And where do the Pink Sheets fit in?

      An over-the-counter (OTC) security is generally considered to be any equity security that is not listed on NASDAQ, NYSE or Amex. The OTCBB and the Pink Sheets are both quotation services for OTC securities. NASDAQ operates the OTCBB service and permits FINRA members to quote any OTC security that is current in certain required regulatory filings (see Listing Requirements). The Pink Sheets is a privately owned company that permits FINRA members to quote any OTC security and does not maintain regulatory filing requirements. An OTC security can be dually quoted on both the OTCBB and the Pink Sheets. As well, there are many OTC securities that are not quoted on either the OTCBB or the Pink Sheets; however, they have trading symbols assigned to them so FINRA members can comply with trade reporting obligations and report transactions in these securities. These securities are sometimes said to be on the “gray market”.

3596. Comment by Eugene | February 16th, 2011

      That sounds like the place for Medianet all right. It’s the same place all the stock scams and pump-and dump schemes I used to get in spam email were listed.

3597. Comment by kees | February 16th, 2011

      here’s the new quote via yahoo:
      http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=MEDG.PK

3598. Comment by kees | February 16th, 2011

      any newly filed SEC forms will still be available via

      http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?company=MediaNet+Group+Technologies&match=contains&CIK=&filenum=&State=&Country=&SIC=&owner=exclude&Find=Find+Companies&action=getcompany

3599. Comment by kees | February 16th, 2011

      http://i53.tinypic.com/2i0u139.jpg

3600. Comment by Texaco | February 16th, 2011

      Well… Really, if dubli gets delisted, what does it actually mean? Other than it clearly can’t comply with the rules and regulations for being listed.

      Does it mean the company will collapse?
      Does it mean that the die-hard BAs who simply refuse to shake off the cognitive dissonance will suddenly be run over by the clue-bus and realise they’ve been ripped off all this time?
      Does it mean that Beavis’ badger plan for world domination will succeed?
      Does it mean that this thread will die as well?

3601. Comment by Eugene | February 16th, 2011

      What I would say the Medianet delisting means is that they want to avoid fiscal oversight.

      Being listed on the OTCBB requires reporting a certain minimum amount of information about the company’s financials. There are no such requirements for shares on the Pink Sheets.

      So I assume that the results that would have to be reported in the pending annual report were so bad that it was worth having the stock delisted to avoid having them disclosed.

      This is a guess, of course. There may be other reasons. But that’s how it appears, from the outside looking in.

      MInd you, the transition may have been seamless enough that the “true believers” may barely even notice.

3602. Comment by Texarse | February 17th, 2011

      I suppose if it does get de-listed, Medianet and its subsidiary companies won’t be able to claim “we are listed on the stock exchange and therefore are legit!”

3603. Comment by Eugene | February 17th, 2011

      Texarse:

      Medianet was delisted from the OTCBB at the end of the day Tuesday.

      On Wednesday, their stock was relisted on the Pink Sheets (a more ‘dodgy’ place to have your shares listed).

      Strictly speaking, I don’t know if you could call having your shares on the OTCBB “being listed on a stock exchange”. But at least it required a certain amount of financial information about the company to be reported on a regular basis. The Pink Sheets lack even this requirement.

      Up to now, Medianet has regularly reported their fiscal information, although recently it has been reported at the last possible moment. Perhaps the breaking point was Medianet’s admission that all of their results from September 2009 on (since the Dubli acquisition, essentially) would have to be restated. Since admitting this, no further financial information has emerged.

3604. Comment by kees | February 17th, 2011

      Texarse, I’ve tried to give some sort of an ‘update/overview’ of the situation on my blog (click my name)

      Btw, I wonder how many of the first US Business Associates were lured into buying “Dubli units” at USD $2,50 a piece in 2009…
      see this screenshot of info still present to this day at the dublinetwork site:
      http://i56.tinypic.com/2uy55qh.jpg

3605. Comment by butthead | February 17th, 2011

      Is it too late to invest and become a “Senior Partner”? I want the free business cards and “VIP privileges”!

3606. Comment by kees | February 17th, 2011

      I’m sure that could be arranged if you call them and say you want to pay for ‘in excess of’ 40,000 Dubli-units at $2.50 each

3607. Comment by Eugene | February 18th, 2011

      Eaglescout — Any more flak from Medianet’s attorneys recently?

3608. Comment by kees | February 19th, 2011

      Referring to my earlier post nr. 3288 from Aug 13th, 2010 (see above) about a possible class action law suit against Dubli:

      (original post):
      “… apparently just a rumour… but:

      Droobli Class Action Lawsuit?
      Posted on 12. Aug, 2010 by Ty Tribble in Network Marketing News

      http://mlmblog.net/2010/08/droobli-class-action-lawsuit.html ”

      that story at mlmblog.net has had some comments in the mean time… interesting… especially the one from “Mac Silbud” …

3609. Comment by kees | February 19th, 2011

      ooops sorry, replace “droobli” for “dubli” in that link

3610. Comment by Live Liberty for Freedom | February 19th, 2011

      You guys are crazy. You think Dubli is in doom and gloom but Dubli is stronger than ever. Ive seen the graphs.

3611. Comment by butthead | February 19th, 2011

      Live Liberty for Freedom,

      And when the “404″ error shows up at http://www.dubli.com I suppose that will be a “scheduled downtime while Dubli prepares for the next launch”. By the way, who won the Bentley in 2010? No one? And the next contest that if won would, according to Dubli, be worth more than 50% of the company’s market cap? You do know that they have a market cap now below 5 million dollars?

      Let’s see if you can draw me a graph: Medianet (Dubli’s parent company) had a 52 week high of 79 cents and now trades for 15 cents per share. Show me how that graph would look (you don’t have to worry about all the points in between; one linear line will suffice).

3612. Comment by justme | February 20th, 2011

      dubli have been given untill the 28 feb 2011 to clear up the merger filling of medianet and will be filling them then and will be back on the exchange and are sorted out the changes that have to be made

3613. Comment by butthead | February 20th, 2011

      justme,

      You seem to have some insight into Dubli. Who won the Bentley and the lot in the Caymans? Who won the million dollar giveaway? It’s as if it didn’t happen; as if it was made up. I’m confused. . .

3614. Comment by justme | February 21st, 2011

      to be awarded the 1 million bonus they have a 2 yr period to quaifly as a SVP at the moment there were a number of newly quaified VP and when they become SVP they will be awarded the 1 million bonus also the newly quaified VP will have recieved the lot in the caymans

3615. Comment by butthead | February 21st, 2011

      You mean the lots that Dubli decided to list for sale instead of doing what they said they were going to do and having a restricted community composed only of Dubli VP’s or above?

      http://www.crownworld.com/dubli/site-location-map.html

3616. Comment by justme | February 22nd, 2011

      dubli is also selling these lots and giving people the opportunity to own one as mentioned its a golf resort

3617. Comment by butthead | February 22nd, 2011

      It’s a handful of lots with a dinky, four hole course and no clubhouse; not quite what I would call a “golf resort”. They must have really low expectations for the number of lots they are going to need for “Senior Vice Presidents”. I think the number hovers around zero

      I’m still missing the recipient of the Bentley convertible. I think the Bentley is fast becoming a dusty brochure in Michael Hansen’s desk; not a real car bought by Dubli for a Dublidiot SVP. I smell smoke. . . and oh, wait, there are the mirrors!

3618. Comment by Casey | February 23rd, 2011

      Live Liberty for Freedom, AKA Gene said….
      “You guys are crazy. You think Dubli is in doom and gloom but Dubli is stronger than ever. Ive seen the graphs.”

      Have you been looking at the Hockey Stick graph from the IPPC Gene? because that’s as big a fraud as Dubli’s graph…

3619. Comment by Live Liberty For Freedom | February 24th, 2011

      You make up lies. What’s the point of me saying anything? You guys dont know which way is up.

3620. Comment by Eugene | February 24th, 2011

      Up is the part with blue or grey, with occasional white fluffy things. Down is usually brown or green, although just now it’s actually white (around here, anyway).

3621. Comment by butthead | February 25th, 2011

      Gene (aka “Live Liberty for Freedom”) said:

      “You make up lies.”

      Yes, you caught us, Gene. We even have the Securities and Exchange Commission helping us. It’s a conspiracy, Gene, a devil-inspired conspiracy.

      “What’s the point of me saying anything?”

      I’ve often asked myself the same question as a point has been very elusive in your posts.

      “You guys dont know which way is up.”

      That’s because of the Australian launch. Australia says it’s on the bottom of the world (but you and I know better because if that was the case they would just fall off). If you look at Dubli’s growth chart it looks way better there because down is actually up.

      I’m looking forward a Dubli launch in Cambodia, Gene. If they sell one iPod that is almost a million Cambodian Riel (Riel is the currency in Cambodia). You could become a Dubli millionaire real easy there. Maybe Dubli could actually afford to pay the bonuses to the BA’s if it was a Million Riel Contest instead of a million dollars. . . then again, maybe not. I think you should consider moving to Cambodia while the opportunity exists (Dubli could go “viral” there any day and you do want to be in on the ground floor). Your $3,000 Dubli Gold Package would be worth over 12 million Riel!

3622. Comment by Casey | February 26th, 2011

      Problem is butthead, Gene would not know where Cambodia was? He may think it was the 53rd state of the US of A? or somewhere in Europe….Hick.

3623. Comment by butthead | February 27th, 2011

      casey,

      I have an idea for a reality show following Gene and Paris Hilton as they attempt to drive to Cambodia without a map.

3624. Comment by Casey | February 28th, 2011

      Butthead,
      Hopefully they would end up in North Korea or Libya.

3625. Comment by Eugene | March 1st, 2011

      3610. Comment by justme | February 20th, 2011
      dubli have been given untill the 28 feb 2011 to clear up the merger filling of medianet and will be filling them then and will be back on the exchange and are sorted out the changes that have to be made

      Well, it’s now March 1st. There have not been any further filings with the SEC by Medianet, either the Year end report that was due at the end of December (which led to Medianet being delisted on the OTCBB), or even the subsequent quarterly report that’s now also overdue. (I think that there were also supposed to be some re-stated earnings from earlier quarters in 2010 as well).

      And needless to say, Medianet hasn’t been reinstated on the OTCBB. They’re still listed on the Pink Sheets, where there are no financial reporting requirements (and thus, no genuine information about how a company is really doing).

      It’s difficult to escape the conclusion that this is deliberate, that Medianet allowed themselves to be delisted off the OTCBB rather than file the reports that would shed light on their finacial situation.

      Justme, any updates? We’re all ears.

3626. Comment by butthead | March 2nd, 2011

      While we wait for the Dubli implosion to occur, I would like to see some recognition for some of the outstanding Dubli talent that has surfaced (kind of like a turd after a night of beer and eggs). I think we need to have an award; the “Dubli Douche Award”, and I have my nominee ready! Before you jump to conclusions and expect the obvious (Gene, Michael Hansen, Dean Mannheimer) I want to remind you all of a real “Grade A” Dubli Douche; Jason Switzer.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHFi6t3QnbA

      He has since bailed on Dubli, but he is not forgotten. This genius of Internet marketing is my choice for this award because. . . well. . . he’s such a douche. He was so stoooopid that he thought he was the smartest guy in the room as he attempted to recruit for Dubli. Looking to “get rich quick with little effort through the magic of the Internet and multi-level marketing”? This is your douche.

3627. Comment by justme | March 2nd, 2011

      open your eyes and you might find them

      http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?company=MediaNet+Group+Technologies,+Inc.&match=contains&CIK=&filenum=&State=&Country=&SIC=&owner=include&Find=Find+Companies&action=getcompany

3628. Comment by butthead | March 2nd, 2011

      justme,

      OK, so it looks like Dubli is moving the stock into the hands of an offshore trust; sort of “packing the bags”, shall we say I believe 2011 will be Dubli’s most interesting year. Oh, and still no financial reports. Tsk, tsk.

3629. Comment by Eugene | March 3rd, 2011

      Justme:

      We were talking about Medianet’s annual and quarterly reports.

      While they have filed some paperwork with the SEC, they still haven’t filed either of these reports.

3630. Comment by Eugene | March 3rd, 2011

      I’ve read the latest Medianet submission to the SEC — AN I must admit I’m confused. Does anyone else understand what they’re trying to accomplish here?

3631. Comment by butthead | March 3rd, 2011

      You generally move assets to the control of an offshore trust to hide the assets and ownership records from the courts of the countries you are residing in and/or doing business in. It is also convenient for tax evasion. Not that Medianet would do this; after all, they are such a huge success why would they be setting themselves up to “skip out”? On the other hand, if they are planning to take a powder, this would make sense. I can’t predict what they are going to do but I do have the feeling this blog will not be active in 2012.

3632. Comment by kees | March 4th, 2011

      @ Eugene, comment 3628,
      I don’t know either what this latest 8-K Form exactly means, but I do think this paragraph, on page 3, is interesting:

      (under: “Terms and Conditions of the Trust”)

      “(iii) notwithstanding the FINANCIAL FAILURE of DubLi.com, LLC, the Company believes that the DubLi Network, LLC business associates assisted the Company build brand awareness for the DubLi.com trade name;”

      Mmmmm…. ‘financial failure of Dubli.com’….? mmmm

3633. Comment by Eugene | March 4th, 2011

      Kees:

      I was more interested in the following item in the background section of the 8-K submission:

      “The Company has since determined not to seek to acquire interests in DubLi.com, LLC. “

3634. Comment by kees | March 4th, 2011

      Mmmm, yeah, probably related to/intertwined with the statement that I highlighted

3635. Comment by butthead | March 4th, 2011

      Holy crap! I didn’t read that Eugene and kees! I admit; I got bored reading it and started skimming. They are packaging it up and giving the BA’s their fair share – that is if you consider it fair that for your membership buy-in you get to be the beneficiary of an offshore trust that is shielded by disclosure laws that make it near impossible to actually know what is going on. De-listed, financial filings way overdue and supposed assets moving to an offshore trust; only an idiot can’t connect the dots at this point.

      Gentleman, it has been a pleasure. As we watch the final death throws of this scam-laden, piece-of-shit company, I’d like to think we helped expedite it’s pathetic demise through this blog. And one more thing. . . Michael Hansen’s executive chair will be mine when they auction off the furniture (got that, kees, mine!).

3636. Comment by kees | March 4th, 2011

      You can have the chair, butthead, I have enough furniture

      I think among the BA’s the only ‘beneficiaries’ are those former and present BA’s who actually have bought the Dubli “units” in the past (see my earlier comments nr. 3543 & 3602)

3637. Comment by Only Facts | March 4th, 2011

      Ok that’s it; I refuse to go away anymore. Each and every time something exciting happens. Firstly Beav I now have conformation that this is in fact Mr Hansen’s office chair

      http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://sambot.com/images/postimages/asylum/lg/outside-toilet.jpg&imgrefurl=http://sambot.com/2005_03_01_archive.html&usg=__mYlPtkLIBecNUWHpUyJX4AHkZzc=&h=480&w=640&sz=41&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=Q3id7IfYP6Nn7M:&tbnh=119&tbnw=158&ei=SmVxTd-mHoi7cZDwmfwC&prev=/images%3Fq%3Doutside%2Btoilet%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D771%26bih%3D393%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=486&vpy=68&dur=290&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=169&ty=89&oei=SmVxTd-mHoi7cZDwmfwC&page=1&ndsp=8&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0

      I totally agree with the award to Jason Switzer, and think it may be fun to offer some other awards. Now please don’t just say Gene for all of these give it some thought.

      Biggest lie told by Dubli?
      Most ridiculous claim made by Dubli?
      Best Dubli failure?
      Most idiotic Dubli BA?

      And finally
      Next big thing Mr Hansen will be involved in?

3638. Comment by butthead | March 4th, 2011

      Only Facts,

      I’m beginning to have second thoughts about that chair.

      OK, here is my nominations:

      Biggest lie told by Dubli: “Bigger than E-bay” because it has “bigger” in it.

      Most ridiculous claim made by Dubli: see answer number 1.

      Best Dubli failure: China (gone in sixty seconds)

      Most idiotic Dubli BA: It has to go to Gene because . . .

      “Just don’t be a fool while enjoying your auctions. Be reasonable. The reason it works so great is
      because of the nature of the Internet. Many, many clicks out there. Millions of surfers.
      Don’t be surprised if down the road you have to pay a $1 to look at an electrical product in a retail store.”

3639. Comment by Eugene | March 5th, 2011

      My choice for biggest lie told by Dubli and Most ridiculous claim made by Dubli would be the variations on “Making money while you sleep”. I realize that Dubli themselves may never have actually said this, but their BAs certainly did.

      The Biggest Dubli Failure? I would say their biggest failure is existing in the first place. How can you define the biggest failure in the absence of any notable success?

      And I would agree that Most idiotic Dubli BA would also go to Gene. In my case, I would grant the award for sheer pigheadedness, and refusal to see reality. There have been lots of other Dubli partisans here over the years, but some were honest enough to eventually admit that they’d been conned, and the rest eventually just went away. Gene stands alone for his fanatacism, bringing to mind this definition: “A fanatic is one who redoubles his effort when he has forgotten his aim.” —George Santayana

3640. Comment by butthead | March 5th, 2011

      And now we wait for the dubli.com “404 error” . . .

3641. Comment by justme | March 6th, 2011

      i never came across a blog were you guys are talking complete BS. dubli is getting on with business as you guys just continue on here talking BS with no facts to back them up. they are launching updates on the entertainment and rolling out the new search technology within their new shopping mall and adding flash games to the entertainment as well as rolling out the new shopping mall to AU & NZ plus the US and within Europe plus 44,000 radio stations .

3642. Comment by butthead | March 6th, 2011

      justme,

      Tell me this quote from Medianet’s recent SEC filing does not register with you:

      “(iii) notwithstanding the financial failure of DubLi.com, LLC, ”

      Do you seriously not get it? Are you trying to compete with Gene for “Most idiotic Dubli BA”? They have fallen out of compliance due to overdue financial filings, have admitted to filing inflated figures in the previous filings and are moving stock into the control of an offshore trust. From what I see they are going to wrap up operations before the end of the second quarter of 2011 with assets in offshore havens that US, AU and others courts can’t touch. The party is ending; go home!

3643. Comment by justme | March 6th, 2011

      so Butthead your saying dubli will be outta business by june 2011 i know you are wrong so lets make a deal if im rite and they are still operating after june 2011 and your wrong you ill take down this blog sounds like a fair deal as your so sure you are right , then you ve nothing to lose

3644. Comment by butthead | March 6th, 2011

      OK , it’s a deal; if Dubli is still operating in June I’ll take down this blog; I’ll take it right down; no delays; right to it; shut it down like it didn’t even exist; I’ll. . . wait. . . this isn’t my blog. Eaglescout, how many Dubli credits would you sell this blog to me for?

3645. Comment by Bungle | March 7th, 2011

      “adding flash games to the entertainment” – ooooh look that hasn’t been done before. wait, what do you mean it’s not 2003 any more….

3646. Comment by Only Facts | March 7th, 2011

      Just me.
      I gave great consideration whether to acknowledge your last posts, as you seem like soooooooooooo many others and not be able to answer the simplest of questions. However I am willing to make another attempt. I draw to you comment 3639 where you state “No facts to back them up…….” Do you realise that you supplied the facts? Did you actually bother to read the filling? Do you comprehend how silly you sound now? Instead of being angry and in disbelief at us. You should be incredibly angry at the person that lied to you and signed you up.
      This is the simplest of facts. The only way to make money from Dubli is to sign others up. Simple. Dubli in Spain was a flop, the bankruptcy in Denmark a flop (well too be honest they actually did that very well) the Dubli Academy was a flop, the Cinch was a flop, the must anticipated listing on the exchange was a flop, the launch in China was a flop (twice), the entertainment platform has been a massive flop. There are no true customers merely BA’s ditching their credits before they need to re-enlist (because they have no intention to and you can not transfer the credits to become a customer). These are the facts pure and simply. Prove them wrong.

3647. Comment by Live Liberty For Freedom | March 8th, 2011

      You people still dont know which way is up. I try to tell you thalt Dubli is the most exciting thing in years. What an opportunity to build a second income. These people here are rogues. Thats the size of it. All this is lies, lies, lies. Dubli is just fine, thank you very much!! Dubli is going strong. Growing every day. Thats ebusiness that beav doesnt understand or cant understand. Get on board. Dubli can be your future to wealth, health and happiness. What have you got to lose? Its a goldmine I tell you. I kid you not.

3648. Comment by butthead | March 8th, 2011

      I think we should ask eaglescout to change the name of this blog from “Dubli, another complex scam” to “Dubli Death Watch”.

      I’d like to see them make a Dubli movie. Johnny Depp could play Michael Hansen (wearing, of course, his Mad Hatter costume from “Alice in Wonderland”), Charlie Sheen could play Gene, Flavor Flav could play Dean Mannheimer and Clint Eastwood could play eaglescout. Any casting comments?

3649. Comment by butthead | March 9th, 2011

      Dubli is requiring the purchase of a package to participate in its’ new sweepstakes. This is a violation of most State laws in the US as it is, without question, gambling. They have now crossed the line. Needless to say, a complaint shall be filed with the proper authorities (I’ll be researching Florida law as that is where they are headquartered). Feel free to file a complaint, too!

      http://us.dubli.com/Monthly-Sweepstakes__do_sweepstake.html

3650. Comment by Casey | March 13th, 2011

      Live Liberty For Freedom, AKA Gene wrote….
      “Dubli is the most exciting thing in years.”
      Gene, you must have had a boring life to come up with that crap.

3651. Comment by Live Liberty For Freedom | March 15th, 2011

      This site has lost all credibility. Thats a fact. Dubli is still going strong. Better than ever. Ive got no complaints. You guys have read too many fake reports to know whats going on. Its a great company and Ive made money. Its not failing. There are conferences all over the world. Its on track to be the way the world shops. You still dont get do you? Ebusiness is the future and thats why Dubli is so successful. Check out independant sources at Dubli.com. That is the real story. This is all just lies on top of more lies.

3652. Comment by kees | March 16th, 2011

      Here’s an independent source:

      “Compete” Unique Visitors numbers for Februari 2011:

      http://i55.tinypic.com/1emogx.jpg

3653. Comment by kees | March 16th, 2011

      Wow, talk about “lies” and “independant sources at Dubli.com”…

      Look at what info they’re still sporting on their investor-relations pages:

      screenshot just taken:
      http://i53.tinypic.com/n5sz04.jpg

      “MediaNet Group Technologies is currently listed on the Over-the-Counter Bulletin Board (OTCBB)”

      They were delisted from the OTCBB since Feb 16th.

      Who’s telling lies here?

3654. Comment by Texarse | March 17th, 2011

      Let’s see… ent.dubli.com has 296 unique visitors a month. Which is about 10 a day.

      Yet au.dubli.com has so few visitors that it does not register. So, au.dubli.com is getting fewer than 10 unique visitors a day.

      Suck it, dubli. Suck it hard.

3655. Comment by Only Facts | March 17th, 2011

      Here is a perfect example of how Dubli is going here in Australia.

      This site receives 5th billing on Goggle Australia

      http://www.mydubliaustralia.com.au/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi

3656. Comment by Texarse | March 18th, 2011

      Kees.

      Well, I just googled “dubli australia” and that site comes up first. Seeing “Site hosting has not been paid. We apologise for any inconvenience” can’t be a good indicator of how business in Australia is going for dubli.

      The second site is the whirlpool “Should I be dubli dubious?” thread, which is probably the biggest thread dubli sceptics after this one.

      Bwahahahah… Suck it, dubli. Suck it hard.

3657. Comment by justme | March 18th, 2011

      you guys are just unreal the proper web address for Australia is
      http://au.dubli.com

3658. Comment by beavis, yes, beavis | March 18th, 2011

      Great. And what is the web address for the financials that were due at the end of last year? Oh, wait, they didn’t fucking file! You are going to be so pissed at yourself, justme, when this lame-ass company goes tits up in (looking at my watch; second hand ticking). . .

3659. Comment by beavis | March 18th, 2011

      2nd quarter of this year

3660. Comment by Texarse | March 19th, 2011

      Yes, justme, I’m aware of the Australian web address; it’s the same web address that is getting between 0 and 10 hits a day…

      I ain’t clicking on it though. There’s a chance that my one click might accidentally double the number of hits for that day.

      I’m also aware that some dublidiot spent good, hard Aussie dollars to register and set up a web site “www.mydubliaustralia.com.au”, with every intention of making money from dubli, but, he couldn’t make enough money to afford to re-register the site!

      A quick google shows me that you can get 2 years of hosting for a com.au site for $24.90 for 2 years.

      So, somebody couldn’t make $12.45 a year for 2 years from dubli.

      Suck it, dubli. Suck it hard.

3661. Comment by Only Facts | March 19th, 2011

      Justme

      Firstly I wish to apologise for what I’m about to say, however enough is enough and someone needs to take you to task even if only for you wake up and take a long hard look at your self. You are the perfect example, and have the most desirable attributes, of a Dubli BA. Gullible, uninformed, unintelligent and most of all aggrogant to the point you will not admit your mistake even if Mr Hansen stood in front of you and said “I ripped you off”. That was the positive. The negative is that you maybe fully aware of what you are doing, and intentionally taking peoples money under false pretences.

      The link I posted was for, what at one time was, the largest Dubli group in Australia. A group which now has moved on to next “big thing” and left a trail of financial disasters in their wake. For all I know it may be you, or you were tricked into investing by this group. Even though you have flatly refused to answer any of the questions I have asked you, you persist to sprout absolute rubbish that isn’t even thinly disguised as the facts. You misunderstand most things that are posted here, and then reply with what only can be described as drivel.

      Either post something that makes sense, or stop bothering us and go to a Dubli meeting. There you can all laugh at us and convince yourselves your millionaires and we are all fools.

      I would like to challenge any member of Dubli to begin to post here and truly debate the facts.

3662. Comment by beavis | March 19th, 2011

      Only facts,

      The SEC filings, Medianet’s (AKA “Dubli’s”) own words, paint a picture of a failing enterprise. The Dublidiot’s with some common sense eventually get the word, read these filings and come to terms with it; others, like “justme”, don’t. Since he won’t even believe what the company files with the US Government’s Securities and Exchange Commission, what hope is there that we can convince him of anything? Is the wording too complicated for him? Can’t he understand that the company’s revenues are inadequate to continue current operations without a capital infusion? Apparently, not. Which brings us to the most obvious of conclusions; you are arguing with a fool who hears what he wants and blocks out the rest.

3663. Comment by beavis | March 19th, 2011

      Let me rephrase that last part:

      Which brings us to the most obvious of conclusions; you are arguing with a complete moron.

3664. Comment by beavis | March 19th, 2011

      Did I say “moron”? I meant “micro-cephalic twit”.

3665. Comment by beavis | March 19th, 2011

      You can shorten that to “pinhead” which is effectively the same thing and more universal in its’ acceptance.

3666. Comment by beavis | March 19th, 2011

      Except the “twit” part which is “an annoying person”. So, I think we can best combine “pinhead” and “twit” when we refer to “justme”.

3667. Comment by Live Liberty For Freedom | March 20th, 2011

      You guys are cray with your vitriol. Ill stand here and say Dubli is the best home business opportunity in a long while, believe you me. It works because its ebusiness. You sell to the whole world. Beave will never get it. The shopping is 24/7 to almost 7 billion. 7 billion !!!! Can you believe it????

      Its so easy to get started. Try it today and dont listen to the lies here.

3668. Comment by eaglescout | March 20th, 2011

      Hey guys,

      Guess what? The retards that wrote the complaint against TheSpinFactor happen to be the same law firm that is involved in the HBGary Federal investigation (Hunton and Williams)!

3669. Comment by eaglescout | March 20th, 2011

      Link: http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/2011/03/20/hunton-and-williams/

      And no beavis, I won’t sell you this site for DubLi credits.

3670. Comment by Eugene | March 21st, 2011

      Eaglescout:

      Any further flak from the attorneys lately?

      Or did trying to shut you down get too expensive for Medianet when you didn’t roll over and play dead like they expected?

3671. Comment by Live Liberty For Freedom | March 23rd, 2011

      You guys no nothing about business so your confused. The global look of Dubli is almost complete. Every country has access to Dubli. Thats name products at the cheapest prices on the net. You guys tried to finish it off but its stronger then ever. You cant stop the Dubli model for success. Its fool proof.

3672. Comment by Bungle | March 23rd, 2011

      If by “the global look” you mean “The final demise” then yep I think we’re almost there. Give it up, please just give it up. Are they still charging $2 for $1 tunes in the entertainment thingy?

3673. Comment by jay | March 24th, 2011

      Dubli has no web traffic (next Amazon/eBasy? LOL!), no BA retention (being ripped off and lied to once is enough), no volume in either the gambling games or web-mall, and no money.

      To sign up with dubli you need to be three things: greedy, lazy, and stupid which doesn’t speak well of them as a group. Anyone who does the research would know enough to avoid it.

      I think we “no” where this is headed…

3674. Comment by Dave | March 24th, 2011

      I went and signed up for the entertainment thing as they had a ‘free trial’ offer. It’s a streaming thing, you can’t even download and save the tracks. What a thoroughly retarded idea. And some of the tunes on offer are abysmal – 80s schlock rock and MOR crap. Back to iTunes and actually buying my music methinks.

3675. Comment by Dave | March 24th, 2011

      Oh and all hosted by a company in the United Arab Emirates. Sheesh…

3676. Comment by kees | March 25th, 2011

      Indeed:

      http://ent.dubli.com/?p=public.terms

      Ҥ 2 Contract, Eligibility, Registration
      (1) The contractual partner of the subscriber is AGAANI Music, LLC, P.O. Box 454882, Dubai, UAE.”

      Ҥ 11 Written Form, Applicable law and Legal Jurisdiction
      Declarations undertaken in the contractual relationship with AGAANI must be in written form and sent to the address indicated in the imprint or sent to us by e-mail. Parties agree to the applicability of the law of the U.A.E.
      The legal jurisdiction is agreed to be Dubai.“

3677. Comment by beavis | March 25th, 2011

      “The legal jurisdiction is agreed to be Dubai.”

      Oh, that’s handy. I simply go over to Main Street, take the first right, then go 8,147 miles and I’m there!

3678. Comment by kees | March 26th, 2011

      Yep, easy, and then don’t forget that:

      “Background on the United Arab Emirates (UAE) Legal System”

      “As a Muslim country, one of the fundamental principles enshrined in the Constitution provides that Islamic Law (Sharia) is the main source for legislation in the UAE.”

      from:
      (http://) gulf-law.com/uaecolaw_legalsystem.html

3679. Comment by Dave | March 27th, 2011

      Awesome, so if I somehow manage to download that Rammstein track i’ve always wanted, the punishment will probably be death by stoning. All of a sudden the RIAA seem like girl scouts.

3680. Comment by Live Liberty For Freedom | March 27th, 2011

      What are you guys on? This is crazy talk. And off the topic. You never proved one thing about Dubli. Your misinformation is incredibale. You dont tell the real story of thousands of happy customers. You just never get it. Why is that?

3681. Comment by Eugene | March 28th, 2011

      We have proved one thing about Dubli (or rather, Medianet) – based on its stock capitalization, Medianet is worth so little that I know multiple people who have the means (if they were so inclined) to buy the entire company at its current valuation.

      Needless to say, the people I know didn’t earn their wealth by being that foolish.

3682. Comment by beavis | March 29th, 2011

      Gene (aka “Live Liberty For Freedumb”),

      Better hurry and make Senior VP; Only nine lots are left as Dubli is selling off the remaining parcels to anybody with the cash (so much for “where the only residents will be VP’s and SVP’s”).

      What really kills me is that the first to reach Senior VP is supposed to get a Bentley GT Convertible; yet, when Michael Hansen went to show it off in 2009 it was a daily rental that he paid $2,000 for one day. Dubli’s own estimates showed you had to have an approximately 2500 member downline to qualify. He might as well asked for a naturally pineapple-shaped moon rock to along with that requirement.

      In other words, Michael Hansen promises a $300,000 car to the winner of his contest but doesn’t actually have one; just one he rented. He promises an exclusive community in the Caymans of VP’s and SVP’s, then proceeds to sell off the parcels to the general public (while still running the contest, no less).

      All in all, this should be over shortly. I’m speculating that it will start to really unwind in the second quarter of 2011. I believe they will be stopped from moving the stock into an offshore trust which will trigger a hasty retreat from North America with Australian and European authorities taking notice. And finally,Gene will face the prospect of continuing to sell Gold packages without a company to support them. . . but I don’t think that will slow him down. . .

      “You cant stop the Dubli model for success. Its fool proof.”

      Yes, it can’t be stopped as long as their is still one fool out their selling it.

3683. Comment by kees | March 30th, 2011

      Forms 10k (for the years 2009 and 2010, ending Sept 30) and 10Q (Sept 30, 2010 – Dec 31, 2010) have come in at SEC:

      http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?company=MediaNet+Group+Technologies&match=contains&CIK=&filenum=&State=&Country=&SIC=&owner=include&Find=Find+Companies&action=getcompany

      Loads of info, lots of figures in Form 10k… maybe it doesn’t look too bad…? (or rather: didn’t, as this data is for the period ending Sept 30, 2010)

      The latest financial info however, in Form 10Q, seems to indicate they made a ‘net loss’ of $570,054 for the Sept-Dec quarter of 2010, where they had a ‘net income’ of $460,204 for that same quarter in 2009…

      And in Form 10k we can also read this:

      “Unless we can generate significantly more capital from operations then we currently project may be generated, in 2011 we will need to secure additional capital to meet our projected cash needs for investment purposes and to otherwise grow our business as planned. Mr. Michael Hansen has provided us considerable financial support in the past, and he has verbally committed to provide us the capital we currently project we will need for investment purposes in the quarter ending March 31, 2011, if and when needed.”

      ——————————————-
      Beavis: regarding the Bentley, the only reference I could find to a car in both these new SEC forms was the following:

      “Note 8 – Note Payable

      In April 2010, the Company purchased and financed an automobile for $41,277 with a note payable for sixty monthly payments of principle and interest of $807. Interest accrues at 6.5 percent and the loan matures as follows: 2011, $7,546 (included in current liabilities); 2012, $8,047; 2013, $8,581; 2014, $9,152; and 2015, $3,183.”

3684. Comment by kees | March 30th, 2011

      Form 10Q (Sept-Dec 2010):

      Geographically, the Company revenues are segmented in the following markets:

      European Union
      $1,618,144 …………….. 47%

      North America
      $388,643 ………………. 11%

      Australia & New Zealand
      $727,291 ………………. 21%

      Worldwide – Other
      $696,803 ………………. 21%
      ———————————- +

      $3,430,881 …………….. 100%

      ================================================
      And:

      “Net Income
      We had a net income (loss) of $(570,054) or (17) % of revenues for the three month period ended December 31, 2010 compared to net income of $460,204 or 11 % of revenues for the same period ended December 31, 2009. Our net income is a function of revenues, cost of sales and other expenses, as described above.”

3685. Comment by kees | March 31st, 2011

      Also from Form 10Q (3 months ending Dec 31, 2010):

      “As discussed below in “revenue recognition,” the Company’s revenue is concentrated
      3% in goods and services sold at auction;
      86% in sales of DubLi Credits;
      3% in subscription fees;
      and, 8% in BSP Rewards Mall commissions.”

3686. Comment by kees | March 31st, 2011

      And:

      “At December 31, 2010, the Company had $5,302,362 of net operating loss carryforwards for US federal income tax purposes that expire beginning in 2025. Due to Internal Revenue Code Section 382 limitations related to the change in ownership of the Company, the utilization of pre-acquisition net operating losses is limited on an annual basis. The Company had approximately $3,713,258 of foreign net operating loss carryforwards at December 31, 2010.”

      … is it good or bad to have $5+ million & $3+ million ‘net operating loss carryforwards’ for US and foreign income tax purposes …?

3687. Comment by kees | March 31st, 2011

      And:

      “For the year ending September 30, 2011, we anticipate our capital needs for operating and investing activities will be approximately $2 million. To fund that cash requirement we secured a $5 million credit facility from our Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Michael Hansen as described in Note 15 to the condensed consolidated financial statements included with this report.”

      Mmmm…. they need money from Mr. Hansen to stay active…?

3688. Comment by kees | March 31st, 2011

      Here’s the complete text of the “PROMISSORY GRID NOTE” for the $5 million credit facility provided by Michael Hansen to MEDG:

      http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1097792/000114420411018387/v216204_ex10-15.htm

3689. Comment by kees | March 31st, 2011

      Also interesting, from the 10Q Form:

      “Michael Hansen – As a Company founder, Mr. Hansen has been involved in the Company’s operations since its inception and accordingly, he is business associate No. 1 holding the rank of Senior Vice President in the DubLi network organization.

      Like any other vice president in the Network, Mr. Hansen has numerous business associates whose income from earned commissions is shared with business associates at higher levels.

      In this connection, Mr. Hansen earned commissions of $200,538 and $337,237 during the years ended 2010 and 2009, respectively, of which Mr. Hansen was actually paid commissions of $100,000 and $157,321 during the years ended 2010 and 2009, respectively.

      Mr. Hansen was owed commissions of $272,121 and $175,281 as of September 30, 2010 and 2009, respectively. Effective September 30, 2010, Mr. Hansen waived his right to the earned but unpaid commissions and forgave the debt to the Company.

      For the three months ended December 31, 2010 Mr. Hansen earned $60,423 and was paid $-0-in commissions leaving an unpaid balance of $60,423.

      As Founder, Mr. Hansen is exempt from the requirement that business associates must purchase credits from the Company for resale in order to earn the maximum commissions.”

3690. Comment by kees | March 31st, 2011

      And, once again in Form 10Q:

      “Revenues

      We had revenues of $3,430,881 for the three months ended December 31, 2010, a decrease of $853,054, or 19.9%, as compared to $4,283,935 in the same period ended December 31, 2009.

      The revenue decrease was largely due to a $675,538 reduction in revenue from our subsidiary BSP Rewards attributable to a loss of commission income from our online malls as a result of its major customer diverting a portion of its business to a competing online mall provider and the elimination of gift card sales from the website.

      Furthermore, we have not sought new customers for the U.S. version of the online mall because we are testing a new replacement product in Europe. We expect to introduce the new online mall, search engine and shopping community to the U.S. market in May 2011.

      The remaining revenue decreases of $177,516 occurred in both the sales of auction products and sales of DubLi Credits. These sales are generated primarily by our network of business associates and changes in our revenue are directly related to the business associates’ productivity.

      As we are introducing new products and services to the business associates, their productivity is negatively affected during the introductory periods.”

3691. Comment by kees | March 31st, 2011

      Marketwire:

      http://finance.yahoo.com/news/MediaNet-Group-Technologies-iw-2307314779.html?x=0&.v=1

      excerpts:

      “For the first quarter ended December 31, 2010, revenues were $3.4 million compared to $4.3 million for the first quarter ended December 31, 2009.”

      “The net loss in the first quarter was $570,054 [...]”

      “[...] Mr. Hansen stated “We expect revenue during the second fiscal quarter to remain in-line with the first quarter. We have introduced several new product releases during the last six months, but, before our products can reach consumers we require significant training, development and education of our global sales force.”"

3692. Comment by beavis | March 31st, 2011

      The “Promissory Grid Note” that shows Michael Hansen’s commitment to the company is crystal clear:

      “Lender has as of the date hereof loaned the Borrower One Million Two Hundred Sixty Six Thousand Nine Hundred Fifty Three Dollars ($1,266,953) and may hereafter in the Lender’s sole and absolute discretion hereafter (at the Borrower’s request) loan up to an aggregate of Five Million Dollars ($5,000,000.00) to the Borrower at any given time.”

      In other words, Michael Hansen will loan Dubli money if they ask him and he feels like it. Now that is a commitment!

      Also, did you see those USA sales figures? Has their network tanked here. The big failure in Europe actually looks successful compared to the USA. Even the AU market kicks its’ posterior region. In the final quarter of 2010 Dubli only generated slightly over $388,000 in gross revenue in the entire US market. FAIL!

      And for you “viral marketing” evangelists, even Dubli doesn’t believe they are going to make it big anytime soon as they project a need for $2,000,000 in capital to keep functioning and they don’t anticipate having a tax situation that would absorb all or possibly any of their loss carryovers from 2010 before they expire. Sure doesn’t make for webinar happyspeak.

      Also, I guess since Michael Hansen has been proclaimed “Senior Vice President” no one except him is now getting the Bentley and Rolex. On the other hand, he’d probably have to loan the company the cash to buy it for him ROFL!

3693. Comment by Live Liberty For Freedom | March 31st, 2011

      I dont care what you all say. Stupid reports dont mean anything. Take it from me.

3694. Comment by kees | March 31st, 2011

      You don’t have to care what we all say, we’re all clueless, we know

      but you should care what those ’stupid reports’ say, they obviously mean a lot to Michael Hansen or else he wouldn’t have signed each and every one of them in the accompanying “EXHIBIT 31.1″ files, like this one for the 10-Q Form:

      http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1097792/000114420411018406/v216205_ex31-1.htm

3695. Comment by Texarse | April 2nd, 2011

      Wait, wait, wait…

      “As discussed below in “revenue recognition,” the Company’s revenue is concentrated
      3% in goods and services sold at auction;
      86% in sales of DubLi Credits;
      3% in subscription fees;
      and, 8% in BSP Rewards Mall commissions.”

      Nearly 90% of the revenue generated is from the sales of the dubli credits? And, yet they only get 3% revenue from sales?

      What are the dublidiots doing with the credits, if they’re not using them for sales? Or am I missing something?

      In any event, if the primary source of revenue is sales of something inherently worthless, isn’t that the very definition of a ponzi scheme?

      I can’t be arsed looking through the paperwork; I’m not an accountant.

      But, is there any reference to the money they spent on the letter that Hunton & Williams sent EagleScout? Money well spent?

3696. Comment by kees | April 2nd, 2011

      Texarse: “But, is there any reference to the money they spent on the letter that Hunton & Williams sent EagleScout?”

      Nope, no reference to this blog or any legal actions at all.

      … well, apart from the legal action they’re taking against their former merchant account company, which is still holding more than 2 million of MEDG’s money, and now claiming bankruptcy:

      (Form 10-K)
      ———————————-
      Item 3. Legal Proceedings

      The Company has historically relied upon two service providers to process credit card transactions arising from purchases of the Company’s services and products. Disagreements have emerged between the Company and one such service provider, National Merchant Center (“NMC”), as to the permitted amount of reserves, if any, that NMC is eligible to maintain.

      On September 22, 2010 certain of the Company’s subsidiaries instructed NMC to return to them all of the cash held in reserve with respect to the Company’s account. In response to such demand, on November 1, 2010, NMC informed the Company that it was terminating the Company’s merchant account with NMC and holding all of the Company’s funds and deposits for a period of 180 days after the last chargeback (which have averaged less than 1.2% of sales or approximately $63,000 the account since was established in December 2009).

      On October 27, 2010, DUBLICOM Limited and DubLi Network Limited, both of which are wholly owned subsidiaries of the Company, initiated legal action against NMC in U.S. District Court (the “Court”) for the Southern District of Florida (Case Number: 1:10-cv-24563-DLG) to seek recovery of approximately $2,162,000 of reserves held at the direction NMC plus various other awards, costs and expenses.

      DUBLICOM Limited and DubLi Network Limited (collectively, the “Subsidiaries”) allege that NMC committed civil theft and conversion by depriving the Subsidiaries of the use of the funds by appropriating the funds to NMC’s own use. NMC’s legal counsel has since informed the Company that NMC is in bankruptcy, the subject funds are being held in escrow in California by a third party in a bank account and such funds are not involved in the NMC bankruptcy case.

      In an effort to delay the recovery of the funds sought by the Subsidiaries, NMC filed a motion to dismiss the case for improper venue and failure to state any adequate claims. In addition, NMC moved the court to transfer the case to the U.S. District Court in the Central District of California (the “California Court”) due to improper venue.

      On March 14, 2011, the Court issued an order granting NMC’s request to transfer the case to the California Court, but denied NMC’s motion to dismiss the case for improper venue and the failure to state a claim. In light of the Court’s decision, the Subsidiaries are currently reviewing their options, but they will continue to aggressively pursue legal action against NMC for the purpose of recovering the funds.

      On February 9, 2011, NMC filed suit against the Company in the Superior Court of the State of California (Case Number: 30-2011-00449062-CU-BC-CJC) seeking to recover approximately $706,000. NMC alleges that the Company breached the agreement between NMC and the Company by (i) failing to abide by the provision that requires that NMC be the exclusive credit card processing company for the Company between March 2010 and February 2013 and (ii) representing that the Company’s website is http://www.DubLi.com and that the Company does business as “DubLi.com.” NMC claims to have terminated the agreement due to the Company’s alleged breach and that through the date of termination it had provided approximately $706,000 worth of services to the Company.
      ———————————-

3697. Comment by kees | April 2nd, 2011

      Btw, earlier I quoted:

      Form 10Q (Sept-Dec 2010):

      Geographically, the Company revenues are segmented in the following markets:

      European Union = $1,618,144 …………….. 47%
      North America = $388,643 ……………….. 11%
      Australia & New Zealand = $727,291 ………..21%
      Worldwide – Other = $696,803 ……………..21%
      ————————————————- +
      $3,430,881 …………………………… 100%

      I now see in the 10-K Form (results for the fiscal year of 2010 (Sept 30 2009 – Sept 30 2010):

      Geographically, the Company revenues are segmented in the following markets:

      European Union = $5,628,958 ……………… 23%
      North America = $6,118,433 ………………. 25%
      Australia & New Zealand = $10,278,967 …….. 42%
      Worldwide – Other = $2,447,373 …………… 10%
      ————————————————– +
      $24,473,731 …………………………… 100%

      So, the geographical percentages have been changing over the past few months.

      (as has the revenue: 24+ million for the three quarters of 2010, now in the first quarter of 2011 just 3+ million, while they now have global presence, which they didn’t have for most of the fiscal year 2010. Still the ‘extrapolated’ results for 2011 would be less than they were for 2010 )

3698. Comment by kees | April 2nd, 2011

      Btw. MEDG accountants, here’s my free advice to you:

      you might want to re-calculate some parts of this statement in your Form 10-K, top of page 32:

      “Our revenue earned from the sale of products from our online auction site was $1.56 million in 2010 as compared to $1.30 million in 2009, which resulted in an improvement of $1.26 million or 425%.”

      Maybe the batteries in your calculator were empty, but something doesn’t add up here… better make a restatement yourself here, before the SEC orders you to do so

3699. Comment by kees | April 2nd, 2011

      Interesting…

      Form 10-K:

      Revenues for fiscal year 2010: $24,473,731

      consisting of:
      $0.71 million = Dubli credits bought on website
      $0.74 million = new & old BA’s licenses (at $175 pp)
      $1.56 million = product sales through the auctions
      $1.94 million = revenue from the partner webmalls
      $4.27 million = used Dubli credits in auctions
      $15.28 million = “credit breakage”

      What is “credit breakage”?

      “We recognize revenue from the sale of DubLi Credits when a customer makes a bid at one of our online auctions by the using the Credit and from the enrollment fee charged to a business associate when they either join or renew their membership. In addition, revenue includes the Company’s estimate, known as breakage, of DubLi Credits that will not be used.”

      What do they think about “credit breakage”?

      “Our revenue earned from Credit breakage was $15.28 million in 2010 as compared to $7.54 million in 2009, which resulted in an improvement of $7.74 million or 103%. This increase is consistent with our percentage increase in new enrollments. As new business associates join our network, there is always some percentage of business associates who do not remain in the program.”

      “We are striving to constantly reduce the breakage percentage and increase the utilization rate. As the utilization rate increases more business associates remain in the network thereby increasing the amount of DubLi Credits they sell to customers resulting in increased auction activity.”

      That’s a nice chunck of money in the sold but un-used Dubli credits department!

3700. Comment by kees | April 2nd, 2011

      Btw, also in Form 10-K:

      “Commissions paid to business associates were $6.91 million in 2010″

      Let’s do some math…

      # with just 1000 BA’s worldwide that would be, on average, $6,910 for each BA in the fiscal year of 2010

      # with 10,000 BA’s worldwide that’s $691 for each BA

      # with ….

      … errr … well… yeah… mmmm…

3701. Comment by kees | April 2nd, 2011

      So, in 2010 BA’s paid the ‘net’ sum of:

      $0.74 million = new & old BA’s licenses (at $175 pp)
      $15.28 million = “credit breakage”
      ————————————— +
      $16.02 million

      and in 2010 BA’s received back: $6.91 million

      some more (rough) math:
      0.74 milllion in license fees at 175 each = 4228 BA’s

      these 4288 BA’s paid 16 million = $3,784 each

      these 4288 BA’s received 6.91 million = $1,634 each

      I can’t imagine though there’s less than 5k BA’s for Dubli globally…

      If there are more, the commissions paid out per BA become significantly more pathetic… maybe I’m missing something…?

3702. Comment by butthead | April 2nd, 2011

      Beavis seems to be having trouble posting here!?

3703. Comment by Texarse | April 2nd, 2011

      There’s a lot of dubli credits going unused…

      Clearly, that’s their business model…

      Promise everything, deliver nothing and keep the credits that they’ve bought when they don’t renew after the first 12 months.

      Just as a matter of interest, anyone know how ebay, google and amazon are going at the moment?

      Just as an aside, if you search for “dubli” and “scam” into google, this site is first again.

3704. Comment by Eugene | April 2nd, 2011

      Although I find it varies from one computer to the other, I find that just putting “Dubli” into Google generally brings this site up in second or third place.

      Interesting numbers in the annual reports – I can understand why they weren’t in any hurry to release them. It will be interesting to see if they pursue being listed on the OTCBB again, or choose to stay on the Pink Sheets.

      While the fact that Medianet derive most of their revenue from the sale (and subsequent non-use) of Dubli credits isn’t much of a surprise, it’s still interesting to see the actual numbers, and to see just how little revenue they make from anything else. It’s also interesting to see (by comparing the fiscal 2010 numbers with the figures for September to December 2010) how much the Australian/New Zealand business has fallen off. I guess the bulk of the fiscal 2010 revenues were people that bought in anticipation of being part of “the next big thing”, and the results for the subsequent quarter reflect people discovering that “there’s no there there”.

      One thing that still puzzles me from the recent reports to the SEC (which Kees hasn’t yet addressed). If you read the usual financial data (on the Yahoo Finance page, for instance), they give Medianet a market capitalization of 4.29 million (at a stock price of $0.15/share), indicating that there are about 28.6 million shares of Medianet.

      However, if you read http://biz.yahoo.com/e/110330/medg.pk8-k_a.html, there is information about Medianet vastly increasing the number of shares – by my interpretation, to about ten or twenty times the number of shares that are currently out there. Does anyone have any idea why they would want to do this, and what this would accomplish?

3705. Comment by kees | April 2nd, 2011

      Eugene:

      Indeed a tenfold(ish) increase seems to be planned. Number of authorized common shares: 50 million (of which 28.6 million are/were ‘outstanding’) will be increased tenfold to 500 million, and the number of outstanding common shares will be increased to 214+ million.

      I think their reasons for doing this are mentioned in this nice little, almost headache-inducing , read:
      “DEF 14C” Form, filed Sept. 10, 2010:

      http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1097792/000114420410048915/v196393_def14c.htm

      some highlights:

      Q & A, page 11 and 12:
      “QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS
      Q.
      WHY HAS THE PROPOSAL BEEN MADE TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF AUTHORIZED SHARES OF COMMON AND PREFERRED STOCK?

      A.
      The authorized number of shares of Common Stock remaining available for issuance are not sufficient to fulfill our post-closing obligation to holders of the Series A Preferred Stock, which shares of Series A Preferred Stock are automatically convertible into shares of Common Stock when we increase our authorized number of shares of Common Stock to 500,000,000 shares.

      In addition, the increase in the number of authorized shares of Common Stock is recommended by our Board in order to provide a sufficient reserve of shares to fulfill our obligations to our warrantholders. Further, the Board proposes to increase the authorized number of shares of Common Stock and Preferred Stock for the future growth and needs of the Company and to give the Board and management flexibility to respond to future business requiring the issuance of shares.

      We have no immediate plans, understandings, agreements or commitments to issue additional shares of Common Stock or Preferred Stock for any purpose not previously disclosed in our public filings or as particularly described herein or to file any designation for any shares of Preferred Stock with the State of Nevada.”

      ———————————-

      Also in that Form, page 4, we find your 28.6 million figure (as the number of outstanding shares before dilution):

      “Authorized Shares
      As of the date of this information statement, we have 50 million authorized shares of Common Stock.

      Outstanding Shares
      As of the Record Date, we had 28,621,680 shares of Common Stock outstanding held of record by approximately 125 shareholders.

      —————————–
      page 6:

      “Dilution
      The issuance of shares of Common Stock upon conversion of the outstanding Series A Preferred Stock will result in the issuance of 214,178,946 shares of Common Stock. If, as of the Record Date, all of the outstanding shares of Series A Preferred Stock were converted into shares of Common Stock at the Conversion Ratio, there would be a total of 242,800,626 shares of Common Stock outstanding, 214,178,946, or 88.2% of which would have been issued in connection with the conversion of the Series A Preferred Stock.

      Accordingly, the issuance of Common Stock upon the conversion of the Series A Preferred Stock will have the effect of diluting the equity interest of existing holders of Common Stock and the earnings per share, if any, of existing shares of Common Stock. See “Dilution”.”

      —————————–
      page 9:

      “Potential Benefits of Increase in Authorized Equity
      We believe that the increase in authorized Common Stock, in addition to its use upon the conversion of the Series A Preferred Stock and upon the exercise of outstanding warrants, and the increase in authorized shares of Preferred Stock, will provide us with the flexibility to issue additional shares of Common Stock and Preferred Stock for proper corporate purposes.

      We believe that the Charter Amendment is necessary to enable us to respond to future business requiring the issuance of shares, including consummation of acquisition transactions involving the issuance of Common Stock and/or Preferred Stock, consummation of acquisitions of intellectual property involving the issuance of Common Stock and/or Preferred Stock, consummation of Common Stock and/or Preferred Stock-based financings, issuances of Common Stock under future equity compensation plans, stock splits or dividends and issuances of Common Stock and/or Preferred Stock for other general corporate purposes. The Charter Amendment will allow us to act promptly in the event opportunities requiring the issuance of additional shares arise. Failure of the shareholders to approve the proposed amendment would adversely affect our ability to pursue such opportunities. See “RISK FACTORS – Acquisitions and joint ventures could result in operating difficulties, dilution, and other harmful consequences.””

      —————————–

3706. Comment by Texarse | April 17th, 2011

      Well, it’s been over 2 weeks (or, as we say here in Australia a ‘fortnight’) since the last post.

      Has dubli gone broke yet?

3707. Comment by butthead | April 18th, 2011

      There should be another quarterly report. That might break the monotony.

3708. Comment by Eugene | April 18th, 2011

      I did notice something interesting about Medianet stock today.

      Until recently, the market capitalization for Medianet has usually been about $4 – 5 million, depending on whether the stock is at $0.14 or $0.17.

      However, I noticed today that the market capitalization is at $39 million or something, with the stock value still at $0.16.

      I know that Medianet was planning to add ten times more shares, as we discussed before. But can you do this, and not affect the value of the stock – In other words, just create $34 million dollars out of thin air?

3709. Comment by Only Facts | April 18th, 2011

      Remember a while ago, I suggested there may be a vote of no confidence with Mr Hansen? And remember what I suggested the consequences maybe if he didn’t resign?

      And Bingo was his Nameo.

      Departure of Directors or Certain Officers

      On March 30, 2011, Kent Lee Holmstoel resigned from his position Chief Operating Officer (“COO”) and as a member of the Board, which resignation was effective on that date. Mr. Holmstoel has advised the Company that his resignation was not the result of any disagreement between the Company and him on any matter relating to the Company’s operations, policies or practices. The Company is in the process of negotiating the terms of a separation agreement with Mr. Holmstoel.

      On March 31, 2011, Andreas Kusche resigned his position as a member of the Board, which resignation was effective on that date. Mr. Kusche’s resignation was not the result of any disagreement between the Company and him on any matter relating to the Company’s operations, policies or practices. Mr. Kusche remains in his roles as General Counsel and Secretary of the Corporation.

      This doesn’t include several very high up BA’s that have now………………what do they say about rats and sinking ships?

3710. Comment by Live Liberty For Freedom | April 18th, 2011

      Your all confused. All that staff change near the top is normal business operation. These people will still have their shares and be making money with Dubli.

3711. Comment by Live Liberty For Freedom | April 27th, 2011

      All quiet now because all the lies you said. Dubli is stronger then ever and growing. Sure we had a slow start but thats viral growth with ebusiness. You never understood it or even bothered to try it for yourselves. You can generate a second income just like that. Whats wrong with that? No, alll you looked at was silly graphs that spin dont mean much. Feeling kinda a low I imagine?

3712. Comment by Only Facts | April 28th, 2011

      Could it be true that John Cini has left Dubli? Pay attention to the past section.

      http://www.linkedin.com/in/johncini

      It appears he has moved on to the “Next big thing”

      http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=124746

3713. Comment by Eugene | April 29th, 2011

      Kees:

      Do you have any updated (silly) graphs for Dubli’s web traffic?

3714. Comment by butthead | April 30th, 2011

      Yep, Cini left the fold:

      “Sales Director
      DubLi.com

      Consumer Goods industry

      December 2008 – May 2010 (1 year 6 months)”

      So, a “Sales Director” felt it wasn’t worth staying. Imagine that.

3715. Comment by butthead | May 1st, 2011

      Since news has slowed to a trickle on Dubli (no new “launches”, even) I’ve decided to start marketing my own “opportunity”. Gene, take special notice as I really feel this is tailor made for you. The problem with the typical MLM is you are expected to recruit your friends and relatives, market yourself online, attend seminars and view webinars. This is a lot of time and bother to get the typical results which is income substantially below what the costs are of joining and maintaining ones MLM representative status. My system is simple; You give me an initial sign-up fee and I will bill you monthly for misc. expenses (marketing materials, website, etc.). Now, I’m not going to actually provide marketing materials or a website or even the “etc.”; I’m simply going to charge you for them. The reason is simple; you don’t need them as you aren’t going to recruit! Think of all the time and effort you will save in my system compared to the “old fashioned” MLM systems. So how do you make money? Easy! I will send you a monthly check equal to 10% of the money you send me! Just like the “high effort” MLM systems, you will make less than you spend – but without the effort! Now, I have three levels you can buy in to:

      Copper – Investment is a $300 initial fee and $100 per month; you earn $10 per month.
      Silver – Investment is a $450 initial fee and $200 per month; you earn $20 per month (you make twice as much as Copper).
      Gold – Investment is a $600 initial fee and $400 per month; you give up the monthly income for the title of “Sales Director” and you can’t claim you “make money while you sleep” like in the other two levels. I will also surprise you with additional billings for stuff you were never told about that you need to succeed (once again, no product or service will actually be provided).

      There you have it; all of the financial advantages of an MLM without the hassle or alienation of friends and relatives.

3716. Comment by Gullible Fool #45379851 | May 1st, 2011

      Oh my god this sounds like an amazing opportunity! Where can I sign up!!!

3717. Comment by butthead | May 1st, 2011

      Gulible Fool,

      Even though I am posting this in a public forum I want you to keep what I’m about to tell you a total secret. I’d like to offer you the absolute offer of a life time. . . a Double Gold Package! For only twice the cost of a Gold Package you get to be an Executive Director with your own custom embossed business cards that you can order with your Mastercard, Visa or American Express. Once again, we won’t actually send them to you because you are relieved from any self marketing through our unique concept. We will be setting up a web site that will be fully equipped to take your money in any form you can imagine. This is global e-commerce at its’ finest. Just think; you’ll be part of this viral expansion that will explode unimpeded by such outdated concepts as merchandise, delivery networks, customer service and, dare I say it, customers. All of the success of an MLM without the effort. . . at last.

3718. Comment by Dubli and Working | May 5th, 2011

      Gene doesn’t represent this great company. We have never needed his type in Dubli. He’s an idiot and quickly moves to something else. He’s a rat and a deserter. His chaga scam makes me sick.

3719. Comment by butthead | May 8th, 2011

      Yes, but you do have a lot of his type at Dubli, don’t you?

3720. Comment by kees | May 11th, 2011

      In the meantime, Unique Monthly Visitors numbers still not very impressive
      http://i53.tinypic.com/v76ohh.jpg

3721. Comment by Texarse | May 12th, 2011

      You gotta love those figures. All of them trending down. And the au.dubli.com figures “We do not have any data for this site.”

3722. Comment by butthead | May 13th, 2011

      The year is 2015. . . and no one has “Dubli” on their resume.

3723. Comment by Timo | May 14th, 2011

      Hi. Very interesting post, but also very long .

      A very dear friend of mine is investing in Dubli, despite my warnings through years now. He is now planning to invest most of his retirement savings, in spite of my warnings that Dubli doesn’t appear to be a sound business.

      Could you point me to bulletproof and verifiable facts, that Dubli is a scam?
      What facts would you present were you in my situation?

      All help appreciated. Cheers.

3724. Comment by jay | May 15th, 2011

      Hi Timo,

      Does your friend have any experience with MLM? MLM only works when most of the money is made selling “the product”. The good products are ones that ensure repeat business; consumables like soap, shampoo, vitamins, and moisturizing cream are good examples. The best ones are superior products that are unique (sole source) to that MLM.

      If most of the money is made selling the MLM, that is, selling memberships to the MLM then it’s just a pyramid/ponzi scheme.

      Ask your friend to get some free credits and then try the dubli games to see if he likes them and if he would spend money to buy more credits.

      If he tries the games he will discover what a waste of time they are and then hopefully he’ll understand that nobody will be a repeat customer to buy “the product”.

      dubli is not new. It’s almost 10 years old now with a long track record of failed launches in every market they have ever entered. The only way to make money is to be constantly signing people up. Nobody buys dubli credits for their own use.

      If he does sign up he will lose his investment and his friends. It would be a shame certainly – but you can only do so much. Warn him and ask him to try the games himself and get him to do some research: Google “dubli scam”. There are loys of links exposing the scam and discussing the reality of being a dubli member.

      Ultimately your friend is responsible for his own stuff. If he’s really determined you have to let him try.

3725. Comment by Only Facts | May 15th, 2011

      Timo

      Very easy. First ask him to find any positive independent press on Dubli. Surely a company so innovative and impressive would have positive articles published regularly. He wont find any.

      Second, simply ask him to supply any independent conformation on any claim made by Dubli. He won’t be able to. If after these little tests of the company, he still insists Dubli is worth investing in then I’m afraid you will just have to walk away. If Dubli doesn’t get his money some other snake oil salesman will.

3726. Comment by butthead | May 15th, 2011

      Hell, just go to the US Securities and Exchange Commission’s EDGAR (Electronic Data Gathering, Analysis, and Retrieval system) at http://www.sec.gov/edgar/searchedgar/companysearch.html and research MediaNet (MediaNet is Dubli’s parent corp.). Their latest quarterly has not been filed and their previous filings indicate that trouble is afoot. MediaNet has liquidated assets and borrowed money from the CEO just to keep afloat. It’s all there in MediaNet’s own words. You will find what I believe is a strong divergence from what the SEC filings say and the Dubli hype.

3727. Comment by butthead | May 16th, 2011

      OMG!!!! Dubli files their second quarter results and, oh, does it suck!!! Here is some of the gory details:

      For the second quarter ended March 31, 2011, revenues were $3.1 million compared to $6.3 million for the second quarter ended March 31, 2010. Gross profit for the quarter was $1.8 million, or 56% of revenue, compared to $2.8 million, or 42% of revenue, in the same period of 2010. The net loss for the second quarter was $1.4 million, resulting in a loss per basic share of $0.01 and fully diluted share of $0.00, compared to net income of $1.3 million, or earnings per basic and fully diluted share of $0.04 and $0.00, respectively, in the comparable 2010 period. For the second quarter of 2011, the weighted average number of basic and fully diluted shares outstanding was 247,129,155 and 249,696,480, respectively, as compared to the same period of 2010, when the weighted average of basic and fully diluted shares outstanding was 28,484,206 and 339,037,717 respectively.

      Revenue for the six month period ended March 31, 2011 was $6.5 million compared to $10.6 million reported in the six month period ended March 31, 2010. Gross profit for period was $3.5 million, or 52% of revenue, compared to $3.9 million or 37% percent of revenue in the comparable 2010 period. The net loss for the six month period was $1.9 million or $0.01 basic and $0.00 per fully diluted per share, compared to net income of $1.7 million, or earnings per basic share of $0.06 and $0.01 on a fully diluted basis in the 2010 six month period. For the six month period of 2011, the weighted number of basic and fully diluted shares outstanding was 246,148,800 and 248,645,221, respectively, as compared to the same period of 2010, when the weighted number of basic and fully diluted shares outstanding was 28,484,206 and 277,167,462, respectively.

      Read more: http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/company-news-story.aspx?storyid=201105162157PR_NEWS_USPRX____NY03365#ixzz1MZa6TaGS

3728. Comment by Timo | May 16th, 2011

      jay, Only Facts, butthead:

      Thank you very much for your input. Due diligence should be taught in schools.

      I am now in the process of reviewing the independent information available on DubLi, and will ask an accountant for an opinion on the latest results.

      I will keep you updated on my conclusions.

      Kind regards, Timo.

3729. Comment by Live Liberty For Freedom | May 17th, 2011

      blah blah blah …lol lol lol ….still the same scamapedia …. this company is making millions . Pure profit. Chaga isn’t a scam. Try it for vital health. You can make big money too. That’s win/win for everybody. Check out my website. It really is the next big thing.

3730. Comment by Texarse | May 19th, 2011

      So, has dubli collapsed yet?

3731. Comment by kees | May 20th, 2011

      “this company is making millions. Pure profit”

      u sure?

      have you read this?

      Press Release Source: MediaNet Group Technologies, Inc. On Monday May 16, 2011, 9:57 pm EDT

      BOCA RATON, Fla., May 16, 2011 /PRNewswire/ — MediaNet Group Technologies, Inc. (OTCQB: MEDG), a global shopping and entertainment community, today announced results for the second quarter and six months ended March 31, 2011.

      For the second quarter ended March 31, 2011, revenues were $3.1 million compared to $6.3 million for the second quarter ended March 31, 2010. Gross profit for the quarter was $1.8 million, or 56% of revenue, compared to $2.8 million, or 42% of revenue, in the same period of 2010. The net loss for the second quarter was $1.4 million [...]

      Revenue for the six month period ended March 31, 2011 was $6.5 million compared to $10.6 million reported in the six month period ended March 31, 2010. Gross profit for period was $3.5 million, or 52% of revenue, compared to $3.9 million or 37% percent of revenue in the comparable 2010 period. The net loss for the six month period was $1.9 million [...]

      Michael Hansen, President and Chief Executive Officer stated, “We have spent the last few years planning the makeover of the DubLi product line which was largely implemented during first half of fiscal 2011. As such, revenues were in line with our expectations, which took into account the transition period for our new technology platforms and the extensive training, development and education of our global sales force in order to enhance their productivity with our new product offerings.”

      See also:
      http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1097792/000114420411029869/v222206_10q.htm

3732. Comment by kees | May 20th, 2011

      and:
      http://www.medianetgroup.com/medianet-group-technologies-inc-announces-second-quarter-and-six-month-results

3733. Comment by butthead | May 21st, 2011

      That one part where Michael Hansen states:

      “We have spent the last few years planning the makeover of the DubLi product line which was largely implemented during first half of fiscal 2011. As such, revenues were in line with our expectations, which took into account the transition period for our new technology platforms and the extensive training, development and education of our global sales force in order to enhance their productivity with our new product offerings.”

      That has to be the biggest load of horse manure I have ever heard. What, you had to train your crew of chimpanzees, I mean “Business Associates”, to add streaming music sales to your failing auction format? “Extensive training, development and education” my ass! Is Hansen trying to say the “new” products (like streaming music is new) was such a mental challenge for the Dubli BA’s that they took a huge hit in production over it therefore causing the company to lose over $1,500,000 in six months? I feel sorry for the foolish BA’s losing their money, but I’m really enjoying seeing Hansen sinking his own cash into this monetary abyss

3734. Comment by Live Liberty For Freedom | May 24th, 2011

      You guys with your scamapedia. Boy you take the cake. You act like Dubli is dead and buried. LOL. What you never explained was how a great company was still supplying millions of customers worldwide. How could you say that was over? Its still going on, just as successful as ever. Deserves more than a pig in the poke. Ive said you can have free credits anytime. Im building. Whats not to like about it? Commerce is okay you know. But you always just opposed everything to make your own money. Tell the real story why doncha?Some Bas have gone broke but that’s your fault. You brought them down. Wny? Whats someone elses success got to do with you? Stop spreading lies and let the world get on with commerce. Dubli is still going to be big and you cant stop the amazing growth through 2011.

3735. Comment by Eugene | May 26th, 2011

      Gene:

      Did you read the results (direct from Medianet) that Kees reported in post 3728 above?

      Do you agree that these results are genuine?

      Do you agree that Medianet owns Dubli?

      Would you like to explain your remarks in relation to the information above?

      Will hell freeze over before we get answers to the above?

3736. Comment by butthead | May 31st, 2011

      I predicted that this current quarter would be the turning point for Medianet (aka “Dubli”). If this current quarter reports another 7 figure loss I believe Michael Hansen may not continue to provide the operating capital necessary to maintain current operations regardless of the 5 million dollar grid note that was provided to Medianet. The Company has, from my interpretation, approx. 2.8 million (their valuation) in real estate it could liquidate which might keep him on board for a bit; however, I can’t see anyone in their right mind accepting this burn rate and remaining optimistic. I don’t want to appear pessimistic, but this is not shaping up like “the next Ebay”

3737. Comment by Live Liberty For Freedom | June 1st, 2011

      You still don’t know which way is up. Reckon that’s how you read those scampedia graphs you love so much. LOL. The business model is still the best way to make extra money. Good money. Notice you don’t get any complaints from BAs. Why? Because they are making money!. Nothing wrong with that. Try to find someone who is in Dubli who doesn’t love it. You will to if you just tried out some credits. I give em away free. You haven’t tried it yet you say you don’t have enough money. Always complaining. Dubli will get you that new car soon enough. But you have to try it first. I understand that. Why are you people so negative? Whats it to you? I never know? Are you really trying to understand this simple concept? I don’t understand how you don’t get it. Its like you cant even understand simple English.

3738. Comment by Eugene | June 2nd, 2011

      As I suspected, Gene didn’t even attempt to answer any of my previous questions. That speaks volumes.

      My comments re: Gene’s reply:

      1) Gene said: “Try to find someone who is in Dubli who doesn’t love it”

      If you look here in the earlier posts, or on the Australian Whirlpool site, you can find lots of people who were in Dubli and didn’t like it. Presumably, these people aren’t in Dubli any more, so perhaps Gene’s statement might still be true. Given the recent financial numbers for Medianet, it sounds like finding someone who is in Dubli at all might be nearly as challenging as finding someone who is in Dubli and loves it.

      2) Gene said: “Notice you don’t get any complaints from BAs. Why? Because they are making money!”

      See 1) above — there are lots of complaints here and on Whirlpool from people who were BAs at the time they complained. As far as money goes — the idea that individual BAs are making millions is absurd when the entire company (based on its own financial statements) only made $3 million in gross revenue (with an actual bottom line of a $1.4 million loss) last quarter.

      3) Gene said: “You still don’t know which way is up”

      As I said before, up is the part that is blue with white fluffy things. Down is the part that is usually green or brown, or sometimes white during the winter.

3739. Comment by Texarse | June 3rd, 2011

      I suspect that the reason you don’t get many complaints from dublidiot BAs has a lot to do with the fact that when the scales fall off their eyes, they are too embarrassed to admit that they were scammed (and had probably been scamming others).

      It takes a special sort of honesty to admit that you were both wrong and stupid.

      Call me a cynic (and you’d be quite right) but, I suspect that that sort of honesty would be in short supply for people who think pyramid schemes are a great way to make money. So, no complaints from them.

      There have been a few that I’ve seen admit their mistake, acknowledge their foolishness and then become dubli’s biggest detractors.

3740. Comment by Warren | June 11th, 2011

      I used to be a sales director in Dubli and I believe that the management of Dubli is disgraceful. I have left Dubli because they are immoral and have no integrity. Just because I left dubli and have something bad to say does not make me wrong which is what most Dubli business associates will accuse me of.

      Let me give you an example.
      1.Every year you have to renew with a $175US renewal fee. In Australia that fee is $225 even tough the Aussie dollar is higher than the US dollar Around $1.07. We are being stolen from
      2, Dean Mannheimmer is a lier. He blatantly states lies at every function and webinar i have attended. If you need a list I have 2 years worth of examples.
      3. Dubli steals from its asscociates/distributors.
      All credits used to be in each associates customer account. Dubli then moved all of their credits to their business account. Dubli stated that this was for legal reasons. It is very coincidental that if distributor/associate doesn’t pay the renewal fee their account is deleted, along with all of the credits that that distributor has PAID FOR. It is like you buying product, putting it in your shed and then when you quit working with the place you bought product from they come and take back all the product you PAID FOR. It is stealing. When Dubli was asked why they don’t just transfer the credits to the distributors customer account they replied they can’t. that is strange seeing that they had no problems transferring the credits to begin with. The LIE & STEAL.
      4. Out of a group of 2000 there was less than a 5% renewal. The worst renewal I have seen in any MLM company.
      5. Most of the senior distributors in USA and Australia have quit. If Dubli is that great why are their senior distributors quitting? I could name several VP’s who have quit. Let alone numerous sales directors.
      6. In my experience to win a Unique bid you need to spend on average around 200 credits and that is just to give yourself a shot at winning. That is going to cost the average punter $160. Which customer is going to spend that and then possibly lose. This model WILL NEVER go viral as Dubli says it will. The only people bidding are Distributors/associates. The customer ratios is next to nil.
      7. Now they are wanting customers to sign up on a $30 per month every month program. It will not happen.
      8. Dubli management has LOST THE PLOT.

3741. Comment by Anonymous | June 11th, 2011

      Warren, could you please provide evidence of your claims – that you were sales director, examples of lies, evidence of customer renewal rate and VPs that have quit?

      Thanks in advance.

3742. Comment by Timo | June 11th, 2011

      Oops, browser somehow defaulted to “Anonymous” – I am responsible for the post above.

      Timo.

3743. Comment by Live Liberty for Freedom | June 13th, 2011

      You guys are amazing. The lies and spin dope is just all lies. Where do you get your facts from? You just don’t get it. You say doom and gloom but this company just keeps getting bigger. Just make all the up I bet. Dubli is strong and growing stronger. A million BAs are added every year. 2 million next year and as big as ebay in 2018. Sounds like you need to get on board. You never even bother to try it. All this stuff is just lies.

3744. Comment by Warren | June 13th, 2011

      Timo
      In answer to what you asked it is very hard to give you absolute proof of what I have said. You either accept that it is true or not. I am not looking for an argument with anyone and I am just trying to help people. Some months I made good money topping over $20k, but it was all just commissions from recruiting, The customer money just wasn’t there. Some of my friends and family ended up losing their money because they couldn’t recruit like I could and the customers just came and went. They wouldn’t stay as there was no value for them.

      I have spent 20 years in the MLM industry and I like the MLM industry and have made good money from it.I also sold off a traditional business to do Dubli full time. Why would I lie about it. I have no reason to lie about Dubli, I am just trying to help people save money from getting involved.

      If you do your due diligence you just have to look at the facts.
      Dubli has been around for 10 years and if their model worked why don’t they have an abundance of customers. Yes sure, they can lie to you and tell you that they have the customers, but their financial statements tell a different story. The financials don’t lie no matter what spin is put on it. Dubli is the king of spin.
      Dubli will tell you that they keep changing their business model, but the truth is that they still haven’t got it right after 10 years. No one will pay 80c a credit to bid in the unique auctions. It is to expensive and people will lose too much. The only people bidding are BA’s. It’s just common sense. Which customers will commit to $30 per month for the express auction. It won’t happen, once again just BA’s.

      Out of what I said above lets go through it.
      No.s 1,3 & 4 speak for themselves.
      No. 2 would be case of he said, I said but I assure you I am right.
      No. 5
      2 VP’s that have quit are Trevor Chatham in Australia -Dubli will say that they sacked him but the truth was that he had to choose between Dubli and another company and he chose the other one. That meant not accepting his land in the Caymens

      Jim Pare from America quit and went and did something else.
      There were also some VP’s in Europe that have quit. If VP is so good why did these people quit?

      There are a ton of Sales Directors that have quit. Too many to name. Not propaganda but truth. Why would I lie?

      I appreciate people like “Live Liberty For Freedom” are very passionate about what they believe in, and good on them. They just don’t want to have their passion blind them from the facts. Thats how people get ripped off.

      I hope that by taking this time that I have helped at least one person and saved their money.

      Some MLM companies are good, you just need to find the good ones. they are few and far between but don’t listen to the hype, check out the facts. The same way you would with any other business. If something smells fishy then it is normally fish.

3745. Comment by edward chia | June 18th, 2011

      This was actually an attention-grabbing subject, I am very fortunate to have the ability to find this from msn.

3746. Comment by butthead | June 18th, 2011

      what?

3747. Comment by Live Liberty For Freedom | June 19th, 2011

      All you guys are really up to something now. Why do all this scamapedia stuff all day? You wrote off a great company just giving chances to ordinary folk to make a second income. Again and again I say whats wrong with that? You have no answer because you bankrupt morally. That’s the size of it. All lies. Don’t read anything here. Its all lies. Edward Chia is a liar. So is beavis and eaglescout. All liars. Throw Kees in there and Warren and Timo and Only Facts and whichever names beavis wants to keep making up. Beavis you’re a piece of work. All lies no substance. Anjd I was going to give you free credits. Still will. Theres money to be made. Good money in this growing company. Mark my words. You have no excuse. Now do you understand?

3748. Comment by Eugene | June 20th, 2011

      Gene: You forgot me!

      Geez, I write here for years, and he ignores me, and writes about people who have only been on here for a week or so.

      Gene, if Medianet/Dubli were a “great company”, then they probably wouldn’t care very much about one negative website. Instead of attempting to muzzle criticism by threatening this place with legal action (something they don’t seem to have followed up on, perhaps realizing that legally they don’t have a leg to stand on), they could blunt criticism in the best possible way — by demonstrating the reality of their claims.

      Unfortunately, this strategy isn’t open to them. The actual reality of their claims is fairly plain to those that bother to take a close look.

3749. Comment by butthead | June 20th, 2011

      Eugene,

      Gene (aka “Live Liberty For Freedom”) can’t remember what he had for breakfast much less the name of someone who tried to talk sense into him. He thinks we are all the same people, anyway (you, me, Only facts and all of the rest). To him we are nothing less than a giant conspiracy dedicated to confusing him. . . just like his breakfast (I heard he had “shouting” episodes at the International House of Pancakes).

3750. Comment by kees | June 20th, 2011

      FWIW, the Compete unique visitor numbers for May 2011:

      http://i54.tinypic.com/124vnzr.jpg

3751. Comment by kees | June 20th, 2011

      Like Warren said, Dubli-VP Trevor Chatham indeed seems to have quit Dubli,
      see this screenshot from a Dublinetwork-SuccessStory page of August 2010, and what’s presently featuring on his personal website:

      http://i54.tinypic.com/zvbegz.jpg

3752. Comment by kees | June 20th, 2011

      and has anyone taken a look at the Dubli Xpress auctions lately?

      seems the product line there has been drastically reduced to 6 gift cards only (globally, on all (us, eu, au, global) Dubli sites), and to be able to participate in bidding at all you’ll have to sign up as a “VIP member” at AU$29.95 / US$28.95 / EU€19.95 monthly…

      combined screenshot for this info:
      http://i51.tinypic.com/2vmsggw.jpg

3753. Comment by kees | June 20th, 2011

      You gotta love how this new Six gift cards only plan is being announced to The World in this webcast by DubLi BA Alan Breen:

      APRIL 30TH DUBLI GLOBAL UPDATE WEBCAST
      (short excerpt at
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dax3dRAMn-Q
      with link to original webcast (over 30 minutes) included in the text)

      Host Alan Breen:
      00:39 – 01:00

      “… and before we get started, I really think this call that we’re gonna hear tonight is so important to the point that I’m willing to call it
      The Shock That Will Be Heard Around The World
      and I’m willing to believe that the information that Dean is goining to give us tonight, along with Michael, is probably gonna create
      the Largest Transfer of Wealth
      to the Greatest Number of People
      in Modern History…”

      

3754. Comment by Eugene | June 21st, 2011

      A few queries for Kees:

      1) You stated that the cards are all that is now offered on the Xpress auctions. Do the other kind(s) of auctions still exist on Dubli, and is there anything else offered on them?

      2) If you don’t buy the VIP membership, is there anything you can now actually do on Dubli? In other words, is your regular membership useless without having the VIP membership as well?

      3) Approximately how often do the cards turn over?

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3756. Comment by kees | June 23rd, 2011

      Hi Eugene,
      as far as I can tell, from MEDG/Dubli info:

      1) on all Dubli sites (us/eu/au/global) there are now only 6 gift cards running at a time in the Xpress departments, and at this moment only 12 auctions in the UniqueBid sections

      2) as a ‘regular’ (non-BA) ‘customer’ one now requires a “VIP” membership (at AU$29.95 / US$28.95 / EU€19.95 monthly) to be able to participate in the Xpress auctions … I haven’t read anything about a restriction to participate in the UniqueBid auctions

      3) you can keep track of the sold giftcards via a link like this one:
      http://global.dubli.com/index.php?cid=xpress.ended&items_per_page=1000&page=1

      This link shows the last 1000 Xpress-auction results, you can change ‘global’ into us/eu/au to see the results for the other sites, although at first glance all sites give exactly the same results

      Btw, the volume in MEDG stock has seen a huge surge the last couple of days… some Mega-new World-Shocking News must be in the pipeline again…

3757. Comment by Eugene | June 23rd, 2011

      Having looked at the card auction page, I would note the following:

      1) I coudln’t help noting that there aren’t any dates on the completed transactions, so you can’t tell how much business the site is actually doing.

      2) Most of the cards sell for only a minor discount (5 – 10%). Assuming that you have to pay the lowest level for shipping ($15.00), most people are probably losing money in the transaction. (This doesn’t even begin to consider the costs you have to pay to be a member/VIP member so that you can participate in the auction in the first place).

      3) The site provides almost no information about the cards, how one would redeem them, and even if they apply to your area. Assuming that I was interested in participating in an auction, I would want some kind of confirmation that the items I was going to purchase would actually be of use, before I bought them.

3758. Comment by butthead | June 26th, 2011

      Looks to me like Dubli is changing the format just for the sake of change. None of their past models has worked financially as advertised (still waiting for that “viral media campaign to explode around the world”. Every “launch”, be it another country or another change to the business model, allows them to say “this is what we have been waiting for that will make us bigger than Ebay or Amazon”. This latest change, in my opinion, is so bad that even a BA can see that few if any end users would be willing to pay the VIP membership cost to this relatively unknown company when there are so many alternatives from reputable companies; especially in the music portal. It not only is a hard sell based on reputation; it further makes Dubli that much more complicated to explain.

      I made an earlier prediction that the 2nd quarter would be decisively negative for Medianet. I believe when the financials for this quarter are released, which, by the way, are late getting to the SEC, they will show further heavy losses. How many quarters with seven figure losses do you think Michael Hansen will fund before even he decides to call it a day?

3759. Comment by Live Liberty for Freedom | June 27th, 2011

      You boys sure know how to lie with the side of your mouth. Dubli has never made a loss. You guys don’t know ebusiness. You spend money to make money because you sell globally! That’s why this thing work and the business model works. It just does. What will it take for you just to believe it? Just take the plunge and sign up get some free credits and help your relatives. What have you got to lose? Are you worried about $300? You must be a real financial GENIUS BEAVE IF $300 is going to break you. Forget about it if you want. Ive told you boys so many times Im wondering if you can read properly. If not go to a Dubli webinar. Thatll explain things simple. But Im sick of the lies here. You act lie Dubli is going to finish or something. I repeat THERE ARE MILLIONSOF CUSTOMERS!!! Is Walmart going to fall over? Is ebay? Is Amazon? Well Dubli isn’t either. Take my word for that. It’s a wonderful business opportunity. Who wants to make a money? Come and talk to me about it. Beaves worried about $300. LOL LOL.

3760. Comment by butthead | June 28th, 2011

      Live Liberty for Freedom (AKA “Gene”),

      Do I believe your statements or MediaNet’s (Dubli’s parent company) own filing with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission that showed a seven figure loss for the last fiscal quarter that they filed? And, “yes” three hundred dollars is a lot to me; that’s ten lap dances I’d be giving up!

3761. Comment by Live Liberty for Freedom | July 5th, 2011

      Beaves mighty out of control. He doesn’t know what to believe anymore. Beaver get into Dubli and start making something of your good (?) self. Dubli is the real Thing. Forget the filings. No company reveals everything to the feds. They don’t deserve it! LOLLOL. They just want to tax anything that moves. Theres a big announcement coming to do with the total global relaunch. Now before you start with your silly accusations the relaunch is technology based. That’s how a great company works. It keeps up. Some of the stuff is very future stuff like the selling in the cloud webinar I just saw. Incredible stuff and incredible opportunities for anyone with a head for business. Oops I forgot beave your happy “working for the man” lol lol lol. You’ll never get rich like that’
      Look Dublis recession proof. Why don’t you get that. Your thinking is so tiny. About the size of your desk I reckon. Ha ha. You need more vision. Now ARE you a liar beave? Lap dancers aren’t any good for body and soul. Soul destrying. But look how many names have you used here? Because where I come from everyone loves Dubli and the opportunities. My whole family just about is signed up and they still talk to me. Ha ha ha.
      You throw mud but it never sticks. Look at your own hand. It’s dirty. That’s what you get from all the doom and gloom lies. Im still building and Id like your business. Its good for America. Help your country and get this economy going like it use to. Are things any clearer?

3762. Comment by Dave | July 5th, 2011

      Hmmm… Perhaps dubli should start selling $30 lap dances instead of these silly gift cards. Might have more success…

3763. Comment by butthead | July 7th, 2011

      “Live Liberty for Freedom” (aka “Gene”) said:

      “Theres a big announcement coming to do with the total global relaunch.”

      Another “launch” date? So let me guess; this is the one that will cause Dubli to go viral and I better get in now before it is too late.

      Oh, and wait; I forgot about your quote “Some of the stuff is very future stuff like the selling in the cloud webinar I just saw.” Wow! Selling stuff in the cloud. You guys could be on to something. Can I buy stuff from you with my AOL dial-up connection? Do you support Windows For Workgroups 3.1?

3764. Comment by Big Dave | July 8th, 2011

      You gotta admit that Gene (aka Live Liberty, just me, Former MP, etc.) is getting the better of Beavis. Basically, he presents a more coherent argument and is able to concisely put his case. I respect Gene McNeally for coming on here and really sticking it to a guy like Beavis. Beavis is smart and sharp but clearly Gene is sharper and smarter.

      I’m not saying I’m ready for Gold Membership but Gene sounds like a leader of men. I’d join up because I trust him. Business is 100% people and Gene sounds the real deal to me. I don’t think Beavis has ever directly answered one of Gene’s significant points. Beavis dodges cleverly but I think Gene has all the scoring shots. Gene just seems to have a better sense of logic and reasoned argument. That’s my view anyway.

3765. Comment by Grover Lembeck | July 8th, 2011

      Big Dave, it’s your fault I just sprayed whiskey halfway across the room! From the first sentence of your post to the penultimate one, pure comedy gold!

      Thanks, I guess. Now I need to go refill my glass, though.

3766. Comment by Live Liberty For Freedom | July 11th, 2011

      Thanks Dave for all your help. Those things you say just make me want to keep coming here to educate these guys. The good boys here just don’t know which way is up and seem to just say bad things for the sake of it. Beavis wont try Dubli yet he tells everyone its evil and Gene is evil and all that nonsense. I mean the whole thing is just a business model. Is Beavis just angry that he didn’t think of it first! LOL LOL. See there behaviour is not right. Where do they come up with this stuff? Next Beave will say something about UFOs. Now all the gas has run out of it. Eagle wont be making much a laugh all this site. LOL LOL. Ignore the scam stuff here. They tried to bring down a great company inventing all sort of names but the company goes on people still making money. Beave is some piece of work. No one is listening beave/eagle. How many hits now? Kinda quiet around here

3767. Comment by jay | July 12th, 2011

      Hey Live, quick question: What percentage of sales is to customers (as opposed to BAs)?

3768. Comment by Grover Lembeck | July 13th, 2011

      Here’s Dubli’s Alexa figures, Jay;

      http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/dubli.com

      Most of the traffic seems to be from Russia these days, so Dubli just arrived, like last year in Australia.
      With 5 visitors per day to the most popular of the Dubli sites, I think it would be better to ask if any sales at all go to customers OR BA’s- I suspect that the only “sales” taking place are, in fact, fake, and designed to pull in new suckers….er, BA’s.

3769. Comment by Crystal Meth | July 15th, 2011

      I love this site. I can just imagine how Dubli keeps the spin going. “Right now more than ever, you need to create a second income”. “Make money for your family and help other people at the same time”. “With Dubli you sell to everyone with a computer”. “While you sleep people are clicking 24/7 and that gives you click through income”. “Ebay, Amazon, Coke, McDonald’s, etc. all struggled in their first years. Any minute now Dubli is going to make big profits.”

      Or what about “don’t worry about approaching family or friends. Don’t they have the right to be rich too?” And with this the eager eyed, dumbasses that make up the Dubli BAs sign up and commit to the “wonderful business model”. Quickly they phone family members and friends. “This idea is gold”.

      Of course to you and I the whole thing is stupid. I explained it to my 13 year old who thought it was stupid and could easily point out several holes in the whole scheme. The Dublidiots deserve Dubli. If it wasn’t Dubli it would just be some other exotic scheme.

3770. Comment by Eugene | July 18th, 2011

      Hmmm — I wonder what will be next for Dubli after Russia fizzles. They’ve already pretty much exhausted the prospects for Europe, North America, China, and Australia/New Zealand (Gene’s protestations aside).

      Does Dubli have a presence in Brazil as of yet? That might be the next “big” launch.

3771. Comment by butthead | July 19th, 2011

      Eugene,

      The next big launch isn’t in Brazil; it’s Norwegia

3772. Comment by kees | August 2nd, 2011

      Hello, long time no see

      I just came across the new Partner Program…

      but first let’s take a look at the old Partner Program:

      * old Partner Program:
      see my post no. 1802 from Oct. 24, 2009, way up here, and the pdf link to the old Partner Agreement, where it states:

      “4. Website Design and Setup Fee – Client understands and agrees that Dubli requires an initial private-label setup fee of $1,595 for each private lable auction website. The annual renewal fee is $225 per private-label auction website.”
      ————–

      … I thought that was a bit expensive…

      but now look at the new fees:

      ————–
      * new Partner Program:
      http://www.dublipartner.com/AboutUs/Terms.aspx

      “5. Website Design, Domain, Hosting fee – The setup fee for each Partner page is US$ 6,995.00. For operation of the partner page, the partner additionally pays an annual hosting fee of $695.00 per partner page.”
      ————–

      Wow, almost 7 grand for a simple website setup and then nearly $700 per page per year???

      This can’t be right… right?

3773. Comment by butthead | August 2nd, 2011

      kees,

      It may appear expensive but with Dubli’s global expansion firmly under way it’s well worth it (certain conditions and restrictions may apply; this is not to be considered a guarantee of revenues, if any, to be generated by said website). I’m sure if you ask around to the Dubli BA’s you can get an ironclad, all inclusive, hypothetical guarantee of a substantial return on your investment (verbally delivered, of course). That, combined with numerous the webinars alluding to the great profits to be made should make your decision a “no brainer” (in fact, the decision to participate requires just that). Gene, please explain to kees the incredible opportunity presented here in your own unique, eloquent and nonsensicle rambling style.

3774. Comment by kees | August 3rd, 2011

      Thanks for explaining, butthead, you da man
      Gene, what’s your take on it? Should I cough up the 7 grand? Will it make me rich(er than i am already)?

3775. Comment by Live Liberty For Freedom | August 3rd, 2011

      You guys still at it? These expenses are nothing more than business expenses. You got to spend money to make money doncha know. Rule one of business. But you wouldn’t know because you like being deskbound working for the man. JOB stands for just over broke. Its all there in the webinars. You guys wouldn’t understand so why am I wasting my time. But you have no traffic and eagle isn’t making mloney here with no click through income. You people don’t even know what this is all about. Its global it’s the whole world ! How much should you pay for 300 million customers? You can dispute that but that’s what the figures will be middle of next year. And you thought youd stop it. LOL LOL. You guys need a new hobby. Investment means just that. You spend money but look how much you make with Dubli. It’s a winner and that’s what I tell everyone because its true and it doesn’t take a genus to see it. Only you guys don’t know much and then your telling others! The blind leading the blind. Kees and beavis are a pair allright.

3776. Comment by kees | August 4th, 2011

      You predict 300 million customers by the middle of next year?

      Is this prediction in the same league of accuracy as the one of November 2006? you know the one that read:

      http://www.dublitrading.com/dubli_newsletter_latest_all.htm

      “For 2008 we predict 100 million Euro in retail sales. We are going for the 500 million Euro mark in 2009 and will then continue for the 1 billion Euro milestone.

      Revenue is set to pass the 100 million Euro mark during the year 2009″

3777. Comment by butthead | August 5th, 2011

      So, the company that is struggling to keep “worldwide” sales over a million US dollars per month is suddenly going to have 300 million customers by the middle of next year? Hmmm. . . sounds reasonable to me

3778. Comment by Live Liberty for Freedom | August 5th, 2011

      Look 300 million customers is nothing with Dubli when India and China get on board. The language interface is in development. When these platforms are ready in a few months youll see incredible sales. You people think too small. If you don’t want part of all this action stand aside. But don’t crush other peoples dreams. Why not try it? Ive said that but you say stuff about it that you don’t even know. That’s why I tell everyone this is a scamapedia site. How much is eagel making? Wheres the graphs? Eagle/beave all the same person I bet.

3779. Comment by jay | August 6th, 2011

      Hey live: again, What percentage of sales is to customers (as opposed to BAs)?

      If the answer is embarassing to dubli – you don’t have to answer.

3780. Comment by Texarse | August 6th, 2011

      300 million?

      To paraphrase Jeremiah 5:21;

      “There are none so blind as those that won’t see.”

3781. Comment by Gene | August 7th, 2011

      You mean google can’t come up with anymore gifted brains than you guys have on this blog? Oh my.

      I haven’t posted on this site for months and months. But anyone that has a brain could see that you are using my name

      and that it’s the same twisted ridiculous logic ever. But you are right. I do have great logic. See you on my web pages.

      Gene

3782. Comment by Live Liberty for Freedom | August 8th, 2011

      Now beav Don’t go using my name like that. I know you make up silly names and all but whats the point? You guys think its funny to try to ruin a great company. We need this kind of business now in the good old USA. And you try to stop it. It’s a simple shopping portal and you guys think it some conspiracy or something. Earning some extra money could help a lot of folks.

3783. Comment by don | August 13th, 2011

      I can’t believe this dropkick drible is still going on i got out of dribble 8 months ago lost all my money my friend who put me on to it lost all her money her son who put her on to it lost all his money his friend that put him on to it lost all his money i could go on but got better things to do
      good luck dribles

3784. Comment by Live Liberty For Freedom | August 14th, 2011

      Don is beaves brother I bet. You cant lose all your money. More lies and scam. People once again I have to tell you its just online shopping with the top name brands at the cheapest prices on the net. You cant lose money. That’s not possible. You buy something you pay for it. Hows that a scam? More lies beave. I can see through all of you. Eagle is laughing all the way to the bank. Makes money even when people click here to join dubli. You guys must think hes a traitor. You boys never answer my questions. It’s a scam site here you never want to know anything about a great company. You could be making the profits other people make. Your so close yet your so far away from it. We need this business and its win win for everyone.

3785. Comment by butthead | August 15th, 2011

      Medinet (Dubli’s parent corporation), just filed there quarterly report. . . and it’s another stinker

      Another quarter goes by and another million dollars goes “bye bye”. They did get a desperately needed private placement of approx. 5 million USD to hold them together and they have a 2.1 million dollar dispute with their previous credit card company that could yield some cash. . . someday. In other words they can survive for a little bit longer, but something will have to change and the clock is ticking.

3786. Comment by kees | August 15th, 2011

      Indeed… not looking good…

      Form 10-Q
      Quarterly Report For the Three Months ended June 30, 2011

      http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1097792/000114420411046394/v230847_10q.htm
      ——————
      Revenues

      We had revenues of $2,889,172 for the three months ended June 30, 2011, a decrease of $3,213,725, or 52.7%, as compared to $6,102,897 in the same period ended June 30, 2010.

      In the nine months ended June 30, 2011, we had net revenues of $9,396,979, a decrease of $7,321,982, or 43.8%, as compared to $16,718,961 in the same period ended June 30, 2010.
      ——————

      The revenue decreases are due to reductions in revenue from our subsidiary, BSP Rewards. {…}

      Revenue decreases also occurred in both the sales of auction products and sales of DubLi Credits. {…}
      ——————

      Net Income

      We had a net income (loss) of $(1,148,643) or (40)% of revenues for the three month period ended June 30, 2011 compared to net income of $829,968 or 14% of revenues for the same period ended June 30, 2010.

      We had a net income (loss) of $(3,070,597) or (33)% of revenues for the nine month period ended June 30, 2011 compared to net income of $2,540,557 or 15% of revenues for the same period ended June 30, 2010.
      ——————

      Note 15 – Geographic Information

      Geographically, the Company revenues are segmented in the following markets for the nine month ended June 30, 2011:

      European Union — $ 3,833,131 — 41%
      North America — $985,190 — 10%
      Australia & New Zealand — $1,903,746 — 20%
      Worldwide — $2,674,912 — 29%
      ——————

3787. Comment by kees | August 15th, 2011

      http://finance.yahoo.com/news/MediaNet-Group-Technologies-iw-2967422212.html?x=0

      Michael Hansen, President and Chief Executive Officer, stated, “As we expected, our third quarter operating results remained consistent with the first two quarters. Revenue and income are down from a year ago, because we have invested considerable time, resources and money in the Company’s foundation and future, by recruiting strong management and highly skilled employees, developing our auction and shopping mall platforms and implementing strategic plans for DubLi to realize its potential as a global shopping and entertainment Company.

      I am very proud of our results compared to last year when we were just another online auction company. Today we are a state-of-the-art, global shopping and entertainment community and our momentum is returning while we put the finishing touches on our programs and products in August and September.

      We begin our next fiscal year in October with a new and stronger business foundation that is supported by a new advertising plan, our recently launched partner program and the strength of our remarkable network marketing organization. DubLi was built to deliver a world-class global shopping and entertainment portal using the localized and proven approach of a direct sales organization. Fiscal 2010 has been marked by an investment in people and technology that enables us to efficiently serve consumers globally.”

      Mr. Hansen continued, “I am pleased that the Company has transformed so significantly in just nine short months and I believe that we are well positioned to capture a greater portion of our global consumers discretionary spending. The new DubLi Gift Card auctions were well received this quarter and the additional business it has garnered from our customers, Business Associates and partners around the world is gratifying. In addition, I am very pleased with advances in our partner programs, the growth in 5% Cashback shopping programs in the German, U.S. and Australian online shopping malls. I look forward to presenting our new malls coming online soon in Spain and Denmark.”

3788. Comment by butthead | August 16th, 2011

      “In addition, I am very pleased with advances in our partner programs, the growth in 5% Cashback shopping programs in the German, U.S. and Australian online shopping malls. I look forward to presenting our new malls coming online soon in Spain and Denmark.”

      Oh, I get it now – if you lose money simultaneously in Europe, US and Australia you can make it up by expanding to other countries and/or planets through volume. Sheer genius! Or, should I say “shear genius”? Hansen is such a tool and his sheep, what few are left, would have made excellent recruits for Heavens Gate.
      http://en.wikipedia.orgwikiHeaven%27s_Gate_%28religious_group%29

3789. Comment by butthead | August 16th, 2011

      Let’s try that URL again:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven’s_Gate_(religious_group)

3790. Comment by butthead | August 16th, 2011

      I give up (stupid blog software).

3791. Comment by butthead | August 17th, 2011

      I really love the fact that Michael Hansen chose to push Dubli into a publicly traded entity. What a miscalculation! Every quarter the corporation has to open its’ financial kimono; and every quarter it is a fat, ugly cow with stretch marks

3792. Comment by Eugene | August 19th, 2011

      A local Cayman update on “Dubliland” here:

      http://www.compasscayman.com/caycompass/2011/08/12/North-Side-golf-resort–pitched-to-foreigners/

      Particularly interesting are the comments at the bottom from local Cayman residents…

3793. Comment by butthead | August 19th, 2011

      This looks like a real sterling investment. Can I buy with Dubli credits? Or, perhaps with a percentage of my inheritance that is being held in a Nigerian bank? Do they take non-recourse promissory notes from the Bank of Scotland? How about a land exchange for my lots in Norwegia?

3794. Comment by Live Liberty For Freedom | August 24th, 2011

      Again we have to remains of a once written a lot blog. Why? They left because Dubli proved itself and that’s the size of it. No need to comment on a successful company. I guess no one took beave seriously LOL LOL. You tried boys but reality has to sink in some times. And you thought you should shut down peoples dreams why? You tried but failed so lets just close this unsuccessful forum down? Do you understand? What we wrong about? Of course that’s whats working for you? You’re not making any progress to stop the company but you have the poor logic. You brought up and you fail you bring up the successful stuff that you ignored. And you fail you say it’s all lies and you fail because you lie. Come on let’s bring up that nobody is reading this but you and I. Is that correct? Ive had enough I tell you. You must take this down Watch out when you step. Eagle I must be making you some money! When you going to turn over a new leaf and see Dubli actually works with all the Asian marketing stuff. Its amazing. Im not the first to say it.

3795. Comment by butthead | August 25th, 2011

      Live Liberty For Freedom (aka “Gene”),

      At the current burn rate for Dubli (approximately on million USD per fiscal quarter) I estimate Dubli will exhaust all of its’ available funds in less than two quarters and have to rely upon the CEO making good on his pledge to loan more money to keep the company afloat. Medianet reported GROSS sales in the last reported quarter for the entire US market being LESS than a million dollars. Tell me, Gene, how many US Dubli millionaires can you have with less than four million dollars per year in GROSS sales? Oh, I know, I keep forgetting about the soon explode viral marketing campaign that will make it all happen. 2012 the world, as a whole, might not end, but for Dubli. . .

3796. Comment by Eugene | August 29th, 2011

      Gene is certainly right that traffic has dropped off here.

      However, I suspect that the reason that the message count has fallen off here is the fact that Dubli has essentially dropped off the face of the earth in North America, and judging by the even slower traffic on the Whirlpool board, down under as well. I visit here for entertainment purposes, but the traffic has dropped off enough that I only visit once a week or so now.

      All the early hype talked about how Dubli was going to be the “next eBay” or the “next Amazon”. (An article from 2008 described how Dubli was “predicted by some to surpass the popularity of eBay by the year 2010″). I’ve been hearing that for two and a half years now. And I still haven’t seen a word about Dubli anywhere, other than occasions when I’ve been specifically looking for it online. If I hadn’t stumbled across this board while searching for something else entirely, I suspect I would still have never heard of Dubli, and I suspect that 99.9% of fellow North Americans would fall into the same category.

      Note that while the traffic from Dubli skeptics has dropped off, traffic from Dubli BOOSTERS (Gene aside) has stopped entirely. I note that when I plug “Dubli” into Google, the second thing that comes up is this site. When the second link that comes up on Google is a low traffic blog that is bashing your site, that doesn’t speak well for your web presence.

      The financial reports for Medianet speak for themselves – I’ve noticed that Gene never addresses any queries raised about them. I don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes there right at the moment, but I suspect it’s not pretty.

3797. Comment by Live Liberty For Freedom | August 29th, 2011

      All the good boys. One actually just eagle with a few names. You people try to justify your low traffic. All kinds of crazy ideas. You cant read a graph LOL LOL. Does every company say all it knows? Anyway the company goes on and people still buying lots of products. Asia is warming up big time. Might even tour a China factory myself. This thing is global and your small minded sattempts to stop Dubli is a laugh. Everyone else knows Dubli operates as a great company and they just cant swallow your scamapedia anymore. That’s why no one is actually coming here. Am I helping you see straight? Don’t you have better things to do working for the man?You boys are funny but pathetic really. Just don’t know how to figure you out. You wont try it and then all you say is crazy stuff that you cant prove. No logic. Go to my website and start making some money. Its so simple. Why am I bothering to say anything? Heres a big tip. Buy Dubli shares now. Things are about to happen.

3798. Comment by butthead | August 31st, 2011

      “Things are about to happen.” Oh my God – LAAAAAAAUNCH!!!!!!!! Another Dubli. . . LAAAAAAAUNCH!!!!!!! Tell me “Live Liberty For Freedom” (aka “Gene the Huckster”), what will it be this time – Dubli will sign up the Nigerian phone room lads (scammers)? Will it create an online charity mall for Ghadafi and Sons? Or will Michael Hansen rent an exotic car for one day and pretend that some Dubli BA will be owning it within the next six months? Tell us Gene; what will Dubli do?

3799. Comment by Eugene | August 31st, 2011

      This is probably what Gene is referring to:

      http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dubli-launches-customer-referral-program-2011-08-30

3800. Comment by Grover Lembeck | August 31st, 2011

      Nice catch, Eugene- just gotta love that last paragraph;

      “Investors and others are cautioned that a variety of factors, including certain risks, may affect our business and cause actual results to differ materially from those set forth in the forward-looking statements. These risk factors include, without limitation, the risk of (i) an inability to establish and/or maintain a large, growing base of business associates; (ii) an inability to develop and/or maintain brand awareness for our online auctions; (iii) a failure to maintain the competitive bidding environment for our online auctions; (iv) a failure to adapt to technological change; and (v) a failure to maintain adequate internal controls. The Company is also subject to the risks and uncertainties described in its filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including its Annual Report on Form 10-K for the year ended September 30, 2010.”

      In a review of this grand opportunity, I have to say I would avoid it.

      Sounds like there are a lot of risks that they’re admitting to, not even counting “risk that upper management will take your money and disappear somewhere in Malta”, or “risk that your family and friends will be so estranged that every get together for the next 2 decades will awkward as hell” or “risk that you won’t be able to look at yourself in a mirror after being taken so badly”.

3801. Comment by Mangesh | September 1st, 2011

      Why Dubli is playing with some kind of Gamble and Fraud on their Part ?

3802. Comment by butthead | September 1st, 2011

      OK, so if by my calculations all eight non-BA Dubli customers refer another customer that means Dubli will have 16 customers. I don’t think that will stop Medianet from losing over a million dollars per quarter. And as far as expanding the operation to Spain and Denmark, let’s think about that. Currently European, US and Australia/New Zealand operations are causing the company to bleed red ink. You would think they would be able to make it into the black in these markets before they even thought about expanding to other countries. But, then again, I’m not the visionary genius Michael Hansen is. By the way, who was the first Senior Vice President to get the Bentley convertible and the lot in the Caymans?

3803. Comment by butthead | September 1st, 2011

      Ooooh, look! Scrounging for cash:

      “In July 2011, Mr. Hansen sold his business associate account to an unrelated third party. He will no longer earn commissions from the sales of Company products.”

      After giving the company car away to the recently departed COO and setting up payment arrangement to satisfy his separation from the Company (he apparently didn’t want the stock options he forfeited for the money), I makes you go hmmmmm. . .

3804. Comment by Live Liberty For Freedom | September 1st, 2011

      All this is just lies. None of it is true. You people can’t read a balance sheet. It’s a great company becoming even greater. Would I waste my time if the company was as you say. Your information is just made up stuff that doesn’t matter. Your just talking to yourself. Go and do something useful. Theres none here listening anyway to all this scam stuff. The company is in great shape and getting better. Money is fl that sells online? Every company owing in from asia. Its growing all the time despite your effort to stop this thing. I don’t understand you getting hot under the collar about a company that sells on;line. Every company does. That’s ebusiness and you don’t seem to grasp it. What sam I talking to a monkey?

3805. Comment by butthead | September 2nd, 2011

      If it is smaller than a human, hairy, but has an IQ above a Dublidiot, you are talking to a monkey.

3806. Comment by Grover Lembeck | September 5th, 2011

      I’m sorry, butthead, but for once I have to disagree- I have also encountered small dogs, rats, cats, marmosets, prairie dogs, raccoons etc. etc. etc.

      All are hairy (OK, some are furry, I guess), all are smaller than a human, and all have a higher IQ than a dublidiot.
      Add opposable thumbs into the mix and you’re closer, but still have all the non-monkey primates to take into account.

      The only thing you could be sure of, given your criterion, is that you’re talking to a mammal. A small mammal.

3807. Comment by Eugene | September 5th, 2011

      Gene said:

      “Your information is just made up stuff that doesn’t matter.”

      What about Medianet’s own financial reports to the SEC? Are they “made up”?

      You have two choices — either Medianet is filing misleading reports with the SEC (illegal, and a very suspicious activity for a so-called “great company”), or alternatively, the reports are true, and the company is a consistant money loser that no one can possibly be getting rich from, save possibly from stock manipulation.

      Which is it?

3808. Comment by butthead | September 5th, 2011

      Grover Lembeck,

      I realise that all of those examples are a minimum 20-30 points higher in IQ compared to a Dublidiot. I was just trying not to be insulting

      Eugene,

      As Stephen Colbert said:

      “I love the truth. It’s the facts I’m not a fan of.”

3809. Comment by Darnell Tutin | September 8th, 2011

      Hi guys. I have a theory that Dubli doesn’t exist and has never existed. Sure some products have traded hands but does this really mean a company has actually existed? I have never seen the Dubli building. The CEO of Dubli has never thrown out the first pitch. Dubli has never featured in a TV show or feature film. Dubli has never sponsored a float in a parade. Can anyone prove Dubli has existed? I mean wouldn’t it be possible to actually purchase the items after they have been won by people and send it to them to make them think a real company existed. It’s easy to have a few cardboard boxes printed up. Letterheads are cheap. Is this another moonwalk or not? Eaglescout? Beavis? Kees? Prove to me that the dragon you fight actually exists. Anyone please!

3810. Comment by butthead | September 8th, 2011

      Darnell Tutin,

      and I suppose you want us to Google all of this for you. . .

3811. Comment by butthead | September 9th, 2011

      Darnell Tutin,

      I’m sorry, the proof was right in front of me. They have a “Dubli Dubot”!

      http://www.obtainer-server.info/bilder/DubLi/DDD2011%20179.jpg

      Only a legitimate company would have a “Dubli Dubot”. Case closed.

3812. Comment by Maggie Mae Bullock | September 9th, 2011

      I went out with a Darnell Tutin in the 1980s. I wonder if it’s the same guy. We all knew him as “Darn”. “Darn Tutin” get it? I thought it was the silliest name I’d ever heard. He said his parents had no idea but I doubt that. Strange where people pop up online. I don’t understand Dubli I just l came here because I thought this was a Van Morrison site.

3813. Comment by butthead | September 13th, 2011

      OK, it looks like I might owe Gene an apology (a very small one, mind you):

      http://www.dafk.net/what/

3814. Comment by Dave | September 13th, 2011

      hey butthead, is it me or does the Dubot look like Marvin The Paranoid Android’s slimmer and perkier brother?

      you decide:

      http://www.hamsterking.com/blender/3d/marvin4.jpg

3815. Comment by butthead | September 13th, 2011

      Looks like they copied and modified Marvin, alright. Touchstone Pictures (owned by Disney) produced the film. Look like they screwed with “The Mouse”. God have mercy on their souls because Disney’s lawyers won’t

3816. Comment by kees | September 16th, 2011

      September 8, 2011:

      “DubLi is on its way to become the leading shopping and entertainment platform”
      http://www.obtainer-online.com/dubli_is_on_its_way_to_become_the_leading_shopping_and_entertainment_platform_3_866_EN.html

3817. Comment by butthead | September 16th, 2011

      Fiscal year ends 9/30. Let’s see how their story looks when they are bound by stringent Federal guidelines. I’m guessing another million dollars have left their coffers in the last quarter. In fact, I’ll speculate $1,050,000 net loss after currency adjustments. Anyone else care to guess?

3818. Comment by Live Liberty for Freedom (and health) | September 16th, 2011

      You guys cant seem to end your scam stuff can you? Even when the truth is in front of your eyes you see it wrong. Hopeless. Theres money being made and you just keep complaining. Go to complainers anonimus. LOL. Beavis, seriously, where do you want to be 5 years from now? Thought about it? Complaining about other people finding something great like Dubli wont get you to where you dream. You can be there too. And this country needs people to step up. This global opportunity wont last. Things are happening and Ive been told the breakthrough will come next year. That’s why Ive renewed again. I stick with things and see them through. Sounds like you guys just know how to quit and that’s a little sad. Why not believe what a winner tells you?

3819. Comment by butthead | September 16th, 2011

      Live Liberty for Freedom (AKA “Gene”) said:

      “That’s why Ive renewed again”.

      I’ll bet they still keep the little child safety covers on the power outlets for you, too.

3820. Comment by Live Liberty for Freedom (and health) | September 18th, 2011

      Save your pity Beavis. This thing will come good. Look this company has been going fully for less than 3 years. How was Amazon 3 years into it all? LOL LOL. Makes you look kinda silly by yuour accusations. You cant stop this business concept. LOL LOL. I now don’t care if you don’t take this operation serious. You think you don’t need Dubli. Okay fine but leave it to others without bad mouthing this at all. I cant do any more for anyone here. First no one is here. Just eagle using lots of name including mine. You love Gene I think. Its silly and crazy here but that’s how you role I guess. But can you fellows leave off the attacks on Dubli? How about a truce? Just for 9/11 okay? Sounds fair. Eagle would you please take down this site. Im worried youll be sued for the lies.

3821. Comment by jay | September 20th, 2011

      dubli going less than 3 years? Sorry, the only lies here are the ones you post.

      Nobody ever made any money selling dubli “product”. The only way to make money is to sign up stupid/lazy/greedy poeple. But why would you do that to your friends and family?

      You can’t sue someone for posting the truth.

3822. Comment by Eugene | September 21st, 2011

      Besides, they already tried scaring Eaglescout into closing the site this time last year.

      I don’t know exactly what happened, but given that the site is still here, two possible conclusions come to mind:

      1) Given that there don’t seem to have been any more communications between Eagle and Dubli’s legal types, either Dubli couldn’t afford to pursue further legal action, or they found that they didn’t have a chance of shutting this place down through legal action.

      2) The fact that Dubli was so concerned about this forum gives the lie to Gene’s comments about “this insignificant blog” or similar. Clearly they did think that this forum was important enough to make an attempt to shut it down.

      Also — Not a conclusion, but a guess on my part — they probably knew from the start that there wasn’t any legal way that they could shut this forum down. Bringing in the attorneys was probably an attempt to scare this forum out of business. When Eagle didn’t get scared, the approach was abandoned — because all it ever could be was a scare tactic.

      Finally, one for Gene. I couldn’t help noticing that you never attempt to answer the posts I make here about Medianet’s posted financial results. Hmm, I wonder why that is…

3823. Comment by jay | September 21st, 2011

      And of course there is always: If you go to Google and type “dubli” and then a space – the FIRST auto-complete option is SCAM and this is the first site that comes up.

      This clearly illustrates a few points:
      1. The search traffic for all-things-dubli is pretty low.
      2. Most dubli searches are for “dubli scam”
      3. The only lies posted in this blog are by “Gene”.

3824. Comment by butthead | September 22nd, 2011

      Jay said:

      “3. The only lies posted in this blog are by “Gene”.”

      That’s because all of the other Dublidiots that posted here moved on to other schemes with, in their little minds, more promise.

3825. Comment by Eugene | September 29th, 2011

      According to an EDGAR announcement, earlier this week Medianet dismissed its accounting firm and engaged a new one.

      Is there anything behind this announcement?

3826. Comment by butthead | October 3rd, 2011

      New announcement from Michael Hansen:

      Michael Hansen, President and Chief Executive Officer stated, “Reaching 50,000 Xpress Gift Cards sold is an exciting milestone, one that demonstrates the validity of the concept. We will continue to review, evaluate and enhance our reverse auctions, both Xpress and Unique. The Gift Card concept is illustrative of our plans and goals for the future of the Company, to create new and dynamic shopping opportunities that put our global customers on equal footing wherever in the world they reside.” – nasdaq.com

      “50,000″ auctions in five months? I don’t think so. This company was struggling to do a few hundred auction per month, converts to a membership model and expects me to believe that their business increased dramatically practically overnight? Well, the MediaNet fiscal year ended on 9/30/2011 with their report due this month. Let’s see how they report their revenues to the SEC. I think they’ll lose another million USD this quarter and “no”, I don’t believe they sold 5,000 xpress gift cards, much less “50,000″.

3827. Comment by butthead | October 3rd, 2011

      Oh, I left off this quote from their press release:

      “MediaNet Group Technologies, Inc. (OTCQB: MEDG), a global shopping and entertainment community, today announced that it has sold 50,000 of its DubLi Xpress Gift Card Reverse Auctions since the launch on May 11, 2011.”

3828. Comment by Eugene | October 3rd, 2011

      I did note a while back that the Dubli card auction site appeared to be custom designed to make it difficult (impossible?) to track how much business the site was actually doing. Presumably, this is intentional.

      Additionally, the description of the cards (as far as I can see) is decidedly vague about where you can redeem them. I didn’t see any reference to anywhere I was familiar with that such a card could be redeemed. Why plunk down good money to buy a card if there’s no clear information about where (or if) you can actually redeem it?

3829. Comment by butthead | October 4th, 2011

      Quick correction: MediaNet’s annual report is due at the end of December; not this month.

3830. Comment by Pinski79@gmail.com | October 5th, 2011

      http://www.akzonobel.com/

3831. Comment by Live Liberty for Freedom (and health) | October 6th, 2011

      See Beave no one cares. Silence is all through this site now. Guess they can see your lies. Still making money eagle LOL LOL LOL. Not much clickthrough traffick. All just scamapedia. Strange hobby you have.

3832. Comment by butthead | October 6th, 2011

      Live Liberty for Freedom (AKA “gene”),

      If your company would just have the decency to fail a bit more quickly we could move on. I’m hoping by Christmas we can wrap this stage up and then go on “indictment watch”.

3833. Comment by jay | October 10th, 2011

      dubli web traffic: light, and getting lighter –
      http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/dubli.com#

3834. Comment by Eugene | October 11th, 2011

      Interesting stuff there from Alexa. If you go through the various tabs of the Alexa site, it shows that there was a spike in Dubli web traffic in early to mid 2011. However, their traffic now appears to be fading back to previous levels. It also suggests that the bulk of Dubli’s current internet traffic (such as it is) appears to be in Russia (and the former Soviet Union) and Germany. Business in both North America and Down Under appears to have dropped off to almost nothing. Even the Russian business is probably now on the downside of what we saw in Australia — People buying into Dubli hype to be part of the “next big thing”, and then fading away when it becomes apparent that they got taken, and there’s nothing behind the facade.

      That probably explains the “silence” on this site that Gene alludes to. A lot of traffic here (and at the Australian Whirlpool site) in times past was people who had heard of Dubli, or had been approached about becoming a BA, looking for further information. We don’t get visitors like that any more, and the Alexa data suggest why. Perhaps those discussions are happening elsewhere on the internet, in Russian. But in the English speaking world, it appears that the Dubli concept is pretty much dead and buried, because no one is out there selling any more and/or no one is foolish enough to buy. That just leaves those of us who visit here for entertainment purposes, and Gene.

3835. Comment by butthead | October 12th, 2011

      Maybe they should put their auction items on Ebay

3836. Comment by kees | October 13th, 2011

      Look at the global success of their new gift card game
      http://global.dubli.com/index.php?cid=xpress.ended&items_per_page=1000&page=1

      Average savings are a measily 2 – 5% and there seem to be just a handful of ‘lucky’ buyers…

      How disappointed this Dubli BA will be, who wrote back in May 2011:
      (facebook.com/topic.php?uid=150349161674895&topic=403)

      “Our Customers will be able to do things no customer has ever been able to do before in history. They will have the
      ability to pre-buy their cash at a discount and then use this cash, load it on their DubLi MasterCard Debit Card,
      to pay for any and all their expenses.”

      “As it’s only just started, currently, people are excited and are testing the system, but have not let the prices fall
      far enough before they purchase them. I know it’s only been 48hrs, but the average savings per card seems to be
      around 7-10% right now, which is hardly enough to excite the average customer. Remember, it’s It is now more
      important than ever that we WORK TOGETHER to drive down the prices on these gift cards. And we all win!”

      “We’ve reached that critical fork in the road with DubLi, and as we have said all along – if we will work together,
      we WILL create the Tipping Point in the next 100 days.”

      Was the announced alleged 50,000 gift cards the tipping point?
      But what’s the big hype about when all those cards get sold for an average of 2 – 5% savings, and they all get sold – globally – to a just a handful of people?
      And are these people all BA’s ‘working together’ to reach (having reached?) the ‘tipping point’?

      Doesn’t only 2-5% savings also mean that not much Dubli-credits (the life line of the business) are being spent?

      Anyway, DubliNetwork can be proud of the staggering number of ‘likes’ on their facebook page
      facebook.com/pages/DubLi-Network/121938237891997

      

3837. Comment by kees | October 13th, 2011

      Btw, it seems Daniel Delmastro a.k.a. Doctor Dubli, who was once all over the web trying to recruit people for his Dubli team, has also thrown in the towel

      check some of his old Dubli promo vids here:
      # viddler.com/explore/DrDubli/videos/15/
      # dailymotion.com/video/x97wg4_i-want-you-to-join-my-dubli-team_news

      and then check his blog as it looks now:
      # doctordubliblog.com/

      and his youtube channel:
      # youtube.com/user/doctordubli

      and his personal site:
      # doctordubli.com

      What happened, Dan?

3838. Comment by kees | October 13th, 2011

      Ah, I see I already wrote about him almost 2 years ago, see post 1737 dated October 16th, 2009

3839. Comment by kees | October 13th, 2011

      Btw, in 2009 I needed quite a long post in my blog to make the case for Dubli HQ being behind the ridiculous advise on some german pro-dubli site to borrow mony from your parenst or grandparents if you didn’t have the money yourself to get on board of the Dubli train, see:
      dubli-unofficial.blogspot.com/2009/11/borrow-money-from-your-parents.html

      But I just noticed that it’s now quite easy to make this case…

      See how that old german site (with that ill advise) now presents itself:
      dauktion.com/

      and then compare that to the once oh-so-active dubli-invest.com site:
      dubli-invest.com

      Man, they make it so easy for me

      And as a reminder, here’s how the dubli-invest site once looked:
      web.archive.org/web/20080820085200/http://www.dubli-invest.com/

      and here’s that german dauktion site with the ill advise (at the bottom) as it then looked (note: once you see the (german) text appearing, hit the ’stop download’ button on your browser, as it wants to revert (even when viewed in the wayback machine) to some other ‘funshopping’ site)
      web.archive.org/web/20080504140343/http://www.dubliauktion.com/faq/faq-network.php

      and here’s a message that – for a very brief period – appeared on the dubli-invest site in 2010, now still present as a newsletter on the news.dubli.com site:
      news.dubli.com/ov?mailing=1UOAPY2-ASX11WC&m2u=9QFEGTS-1UOAPY2-RGY17Q9

      Just some observations for fun

3840. Comment by health101 | October 13th, 2011

      Nothing but crazy stuff here beave. Keep up the good work. You never know you might get a job supporting lost cause. LOL LOL. This site is dead. Kees (or is it eagle) is back with more garbage. You guys are just fence sitting. Dubli will be huge next year. Its been 380 days since the LA explosion and by day 500 Dubli will be at the run point for profit. Not my words but from the top. And reports from everywhere show its true. If you ve waited to get on board now is the time. Big time to become involved. Don’t stop to this scamapedia. Its all lies. Boy these people are ignoramouses. I cant help you anymore. I tried.

3841. Comment by jay | October 14th, 2011

      LA explosion? You mean the failed US launch? Well, it went well with the failed European launch, the failed Chinese launch, and the failed Australian launch. Where will the next failed launch occur?

      The “top”? You mean the same scammers that have been collecting the money since the beginning 8 years ago? After being lied to so many times over such a long period of time – do you really believe ANYTHING they say? I find it hard to believe that your greed has made you THAT stupid, but I suppose I don’t axtually know you very well.

      You’ve signed a bunch of your friends and family up for dubli, right? So you made a few dollars doing that. But now that’ve ALL lost their money and they all hate you.

      What’s that like?

3842. Comment by butthead | October 14th, 2011

      This is a repeat of an old post but, tell me Gene,”who won the Bentley and a lot in the Caymans”? Really, after all this time, answer this question. Who won this stuff promoted in 2010 based on someone, anyone, becoming the the first “Senior Vice-President”? Answer, Gene, come on, you can do it. . .

3843. Comment by Eugene | October 14th, 2011

      Gene said “Not my words, but from the top”.

      Is this the same top (presumably the upper management at Medianet) that keeps publishing those quarterly reports for the SEC about how much money they’re losing each quarter?

      If so, can anyone be expected to believe a word they say?

3844. Comment by health101 | October 18th, 2011

      You act like nothing happened in LA in 2010. I tell you I saw the videos and thousands of Dubli Bas gathered to plan for 2012. YUou act like Dubli is some moinor thing yet it continues to grow. Despite how you tried to stop it. LOL. Incredible that you believe your own lies. This company grows as a great e business with tons of profit increasing every minute. The figures you say are just trash talking. Maybe you have some weird ideas that you hurt Dubli but your are wrong how wrong can you be. You don’t understand that the five people who read this nonsense aren’t the world. There a billions of Dubli customers. Of course the GFC has meant a downturn but that’s the case everywhere. Retail, real estate everything. So Dubli hasn’t reached its full growth yet. But next year is the big year. By July 4th stand back. Dubli are in negotiation with car companies and everything. Don’t take my word for it the webinars are set up so its easy and that’s all there is. Dubli doesn’t need you but you need dubli. Beaves a funny old boy isn’t he?

3845. Comment by Eugene | October 19th, 2011

      Then why is it that “the five people who read this nonsense” are the second highest rated search on Google, if you simply enter “Dubli”? That doesn’t say very much about Dubli on the ‘net.

3846. Comment by kees | October 19th, 2011

      Gene said: “Of course the GFC has meant a downturn”

      but… but… I thought the mantra was “there is no economic crisis here at Dubli”…

      http://i53.tinypic.com/2i6nkpf.jpg

      has that changed then?

3847. Comment by kees | October 19th, 2011

      Indeed Eugene, even at google.NL it’s the second result showing up…

      http://i53.tinypic.com/10xujqd.jpg

3848. Comment by butthead | October 19th, 2011

      The “truth” Gene, is MediaNet is going broke and, unless they pull a rabbit out of their ass, 2012 will be it (or even 2011 as we still have a couple of months left). Oh, wait, maybe they will introduce their own tablet and challenge Apple at its’ own game

3849. Comment by health101 | October 20th, 2011

      You boys just don’t get it. Your talk is crazy. Its like your some ASD person who hears but doesn’t understand. You don’t see the big picture. All your stats are hogwash. I can tell you that. You don’t seem very happy with your lives so you try to bring down a great company that’s making an effort to change lives in the global community. That’s reality not your silly statements that don’t help. Why do you attack? Makes me kind of suspicious. Whats your problem is another way of saying it. Im not saying you have a problem but if you attack so much without any facts whats behind it? Whats wrong with making money? I cant figure you guys out. Whats wrong with positive look at the future? Think about what your doing and please stop. Its not a game not in this climate. All your figures are just pulled out of the air. Know what I mean? You don’t even know what company your talking about? You claim its gambling and that’s been proven that its not and still your not happy. Whats it gonina take? I ask you. Tell me your selfish or what? Hey why not let others decide for themselves whether they want to enter dubli or not. This is so simple when you think about it.

3850. Comment by butthead | October 20th, 2011

      Gene (AKA “health101″),

      A lot of the figures we are quoting are from MediaNet’s legally required filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, which is in contrast to your quote of “all your figures are just pulled out of the air”. To put this bluntly, you are lying, Gene. The good news is I don’t believe there are enough “Genes” in the world to keep Dubli afloat for more than a few months. I look forward to Dubli’s demise almost as much aa I looked forward to Ghadafi’s end. . . OK, that’s a bit of an exaggeration as Ghadafi really sucked, but you get my drift.

3851. Comment by Eugene | October 21st, 2011

      I wish that I had taken a snapshot at Alexa ten days ago when Jay first posted that link. There has been a notable fall-off in traffic at Dubli.com just during that time in places like Russia, Khazakhstan, Bosnia and Herzogovina, etc.

      Over just a week, their traffic rank has fallen 1260 positions, over a month it has fallen 3067 positions, and over three months, it has fallen 5077 positions. They’re on track to end the year where they started, or lower.

      Something funny is up with MEDG stock – the share price had a big uptick on Wednesday. Presumably, this is insider trading in advance of some announcement (perhaps the opening of the Antarctica online shopping mall, or the new second phase of Dubliland to be built in sunny Southern Montserrat).

3852. Comment by kees | October 21st, 2011

      re. the stock uptick, which is still ongoing:

      this is probably in anticipation of some major new news expected to be announced at the Dubli “New eRA” event taking place this weekend in the “Pyramide” Hotel in Vienna:
      http://www.obtainer-online.com/a_new_dubli_era_3_894_EN.html

3853. Comment by Eugene | October 24th, 2011

      Well, so much for the uptick — I guess the news from the event in Vienna must not have been that good, as MEDG.PK dropped 24% today.

3854. Comment by kees | October 24th, 2011

      Yep, if this (see below) was the main announcement in Vienna, the few shareholders that were playing with the Dubli shares weren’t impressed, it seems:

      screenshot from Dublinetwork facebook page:
      http://i55.tinypic.com/aypv0o.jpg

      “OMG!! Michael Hansen has just announced the launch of the DubLi GLOBAL MALL..!! The global mall will cover 214 countries… With over 10 million products and growing!! AMAZING…”

3855. Comment by kees | October 24th, 2011

      … kind of reminds me of the ‘worldwide trading’ “attract more than 200 million customers” ‘opportunity’ Dubli promo talk in 2007:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzNw7cDsSWU#t=95s

      

3856. Comment by kees | October 24th, 2011

      also reminds me of:

      *The Shock That Will Be Heard Around The World*
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dax3dRAMn-Q

      (April 30th DUBLI Global Update Webcast)

3857. Comment by kees | October 24th, 2011

      or, reffering to my comment number 1866, from October 2009, now also on Youtube:

      “eBay is not even a competitor of Dubli anymore”
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiZWzSoBQZA

      

3858. Comment by new basketball shoes | October 28th, 2011

      Don’t part with your illusions. When they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live. ?Mark Twain, American writer)

3859. Comment by butthead | October 29th, 2011

      “new basketball shoes”,

      Was that “illusions” or “delusions”?

3860. Comment by Dave | October 30th, 2011

      Gotta say I love dropping in here every so often and seeing how poor deluded Gene and his alters are cracking on with their denials about how shafted the company really is. Hilarious!

3861. Comment by Health101 | October 30th, 2011

      Dave is making a joke on himself. LOL. Your missing out on ebusiness which is global. Some of youthink this isn’t a real company and that is bad luck for all. Global means you sell to 7 billion people. Can you understand that beave? We don’t nickel and dime. This operation is big and the numbers make my head spin. You should check out the Dubli facts on this one. Millions of customers. Each BA makes a money stream when someone clicks. What can be better than that? And these people ARE clicking. You don’t have to believe it. It works. Just use it and see youll be amazed. Don’t believe the lies here. This is all crazy talk. They cant even know the real facts. They don’t even bother to. That’s the size of it. Im not kidding. Something has to change so we can get this out over the planet. Everyone needs to know about this. We can help everyone. Why not check out a webinar? What will it cost you nothing! Beaves just a goofball. Don’t believe anything he says. Dosent have a dime to his name and he gives out financial advice! LOL that really does take the cake.

3862. Comment by Eugene | October 31st, 2011

      For once, Gene has said something I agree with, strange to say. Gene said “…The numbers make my head spin”.

      If I was the person behind Medianet and the financial numbers that they report in their quarterly and annual reports, then I agree that it would make my head spin.

      By the way, for future reference — Today, October 31 2011, Dubli’s Alexa traffic rank is as follows:

      Global: 11,270
      Germany: 1,960
      Russia: 2,647
      Australia: 4,970
      Britain: 13,379
      Canada: 32,521
      USA: 84,729

      (For those not familiar with these rankings — 1 is the highest ranked site on the internet in that country, and it goes down from there. In other words, a higher number is a worse ranking.)

      This way, we have a reference for future comparison.

3863. Comment by Whip | November 1st, 2011

      Eaglescout has not ever had anything to worry about with a blog of opinions.
      Opinions by posters are not actionable.
      Telling the truth with facts to back it up also are not actionable.
      Dubli would also be open to ‘discovery’ should they actually think they would like to take someone to court. Don’t think they’d want to do that.

3864. Comment by kees | November 3rd, 2011

      Wow, hundreds upon hundreds of sold gift cards at only 1% or even 0 % savings

      http://global.dubli.com/index.php?cid=xpress.ended&items_per_page=1000&page=1

      Now that is some money-machine, lol

3865. Comment by Texarse | November 5th, 2011

      Take a look at the ‘winners’ of those auctions. They were willing to purchase a number of gift cards (user polpol bought 13 of them, user presi bought 16) with little or no discount.

      This leads me to conclude that these are BAs cashing out their soon-to-be-worthless dubli points because they are not going to sign up again.

3866. Comment by Eugene | November 7th, 2011

      Dubli Alexa traffic rank — this week’s update.

      (I’ve decided to make a change — I will list the full list of countries in the Alexa ranking. That said, I don‘t know why certain countries are listed and others are not…)

      Global: 11,750 (down 480)

      Kazakhstan 642
      El Salvador 931
      Germany 2,037 (down 77)
      Latvia 2,203
      Russia 2,395 (up 252)
      Austria 3,027
      Slovenia 3,226
      Switzerland 3,341
      Ukraine 3,479
      Australia 4,190 (up 780)
      Hungary 4,558
      Poland 6,837
      Malaysia 13,711
      United Kingdom 14,703 (down 1324)
      Turkey 14,828
      Spain 39,726
      France 43,121
      United States 80,556 (up 4173)
      India 174,949

3867. Comment by The Road Warrior | November 7th, 2011

      Wow – good to be back

      And even better to see that Gene is still here!!

      “This operation is big and the numbers make my head spin”
      “You should check out the Dubli facts on this one. Millions of customers.”
      “There a billions of Dubli customers” (LOL on that one!)

      ….and

      “Dubli will be huge next year”

      You’ve been saying this since 2009, Gene!

      For some reason, I just wanted to see how DubLi was going. So I checked siteanalytics again….7427 visitors to the us.dubli.com site in Sept 2011.

      I think when I last posted in about March 2010, the US site was recording about 35,000 visitors per month.

      Ebay is still doing over 70 million.

      But DubLi will be bigger. Get on board!

      I feel better now.

3868. Comment by kees | November 8th, 2011

      Yeah, wow, I saw that at compete, 7427 unique visitors?
      well… maybe they measured wrongly, and it should actually be 7+ million?

      Btw, I only just noticed that one of the happy customers on the dubli.com testimonials page is no other than a Dubli Vice President

      Haha, took me some time to realize that, but here he is, happy vice presid… errr, customer “global-ebiz”:
      http://i39.tinypic.com/33bnxpk.jpg

3869. Comment by kees | November 8th, 2011

      (expect that picture to disappear from the testimonials page soon as well, just like the other happy “customers” I busted )

3870. Comment by kees | November 8th, 2011

      of course the picture of a happy vice president can be used for more than one happy “customers”, like it was used earlier for happy customer “luckycharm” on the us site:
      http://i38.tinypic.com/2r6glfa.jpg

3871. Comment by kees | November 8th, 2011

      but before that, Luckycharm had yet another face:
      http://i35.tinypic.com/11lomd4.jpg

      and this “blouder” guy also seems to be shape-shifting…

      How confusing!

3872. Comment by The Road Warrior | November 8th, 2011

      Great spotting!

      So essentially, nothing has changed.

      I note that good old Walther “won” his children’s surprise auction with a 98% saving!

      We always questioned this…how unrealistic it is to be bidding against others buyers and have them reject low prices. The answer was usually that a single BA was unloading credits.

      But I don’t think so in this case. It just reeks of a flat out lie. Some propaganda to put up on the site.

      Ah well, with the site traffic numbers…not many people are seeing the propaganda anyway

3873. Comment by kees | November 8th, 2011

      Well, actually they were ‘unique-lowest-bid’ auctions… so then is possible to have such big savings (in the final price, probably not in wasted credits of course )

      But they still haven’t discarded the propaganda…

      Meet “SergikRus” and “SergeyPonomarenko”, happy customers on the global and the eu site, and winning very comparable items, and also having very similar looks

      http://i40.tinypic.com/1zqtv6g.jpg

      (note: it is official dubli policy that – as a customer – you can only have 1 username, and that you can only be registered on 1 (and only one) of their 4 sites, either the us, eu, au, or the global dubli site)

3874. Comment by kees | November 8th, 2011

      … I think I just found yet another matching Dubli-guy with one of the “happy customers”

      doesn’t this “arne” have an eery resemblance with one of Dubli’s older (2004/2005) propaganda guys?

      http://i43.tinypic.com/dbqcue.jpg

3875. Comment by kees | November 8th, 2011

      Hahaha, probably just an old pic from one of his 2005 presentations and then with a new flatscreen photoshopped in for this special occasion

3876. Comment by Health101 | November 10th, 2011

      You laugh when you shouldn’t all of you. Business is just business. Some people look like other people but we are talking global business so there are a lot of similar faces out there. No tricks and nothing to hide. You people stoop to low stuff all the time. What gives? Why this constant attack for no reason. You just don’t understand the company and yet you attack it. Isnt the time now to stop. Do you have a different idea? Well come on then and show us what you could come up with? Not so easy to do business in this climate. Am I right? I think beave has real problems. Just the one guy with so many names LOL LOL. I don’t understand where your coming from but can you explain? You have been saying this kind of stuff for years. No problems on any of this. Dubli still going strong and making money. You say lies so no one can hear the real truth. Everyone needs to go to Dubli.

3877. Comment by MissDK | November 11th, 2011

      Amazing website. Please keep posting

      DubLi was launched in Denmark a few weeks ago, and I already know some upcoming BAs. I’m therefore very interested in this debate.

      I talked briefly with a BA and obviously he said it would be a huge succes and one day everybody would shop through the DubLi shopping mall. It is a win-win because the BAs profit on the costumers, the costumers get discounts when buying through DubLi, and the retailers sell products without spending money on advertisement.

      I called a few of the shops listed as retailers in the shopping mall and none of them knew they were on the list and for sure they didn’t provide any discount when buying through DubLi. So it doesn’t seem promising…

      The BA keeps mention that from January 2012 and a year onwards DubLi will be promoted daily in a one hour national TV show in the United States. Have any of you heard of that? According to the BA this will increase the amount of DubLi users exponentially

3878. Comment by David Blaine | November 11th, 2011

      So the geniuses at Dubli HQ finally realize what every business person already knows – that advertising works. So why did Michael Hansen wait so long? Remember Michael Hansen said he put $1 billion dollars into Dubli (LOL LOL LOL ). I thought Beavis, eaglescout, etc. did Dubli’s advertising for them. Everything about Dubli sounds stupid. Every time some aspect of the “brilliant Dubli business model” is questioned some idiot BA pipes up with “Oh that’s just to …”. They sound like moronic kids when they explain away stuff so superficially.
      If Dubli has “millions” of customers why do the same people win auctions on the few goods that are offered? It doesn’t take Sherlock Holmes to figure what’s going on. I think we who have average IQs or above know what Dubli is all about. The eager eyed Dublidiots are a different species. Weird convoluted answers to probing questions satisfy only them.

      I have a question for all Dubli BAs. Do you believe Michael Hansen is God, a god, a prophet or just an angel? Careful, it’s a trick question!

3879. Comment by Eugene | November 14th, 2011

      This week’s Alexa update:

      Global 11,985 (down 235)

      Kazakhstan 613 (up 29)
      El Salvador 992 (up 9)
      Germany 1,994 (up 43)
      Russia 2,191 (up 204)
      Latvia 2,370 (down 167)
      Austria 2,676 (up 351)
      Slovenia 3,173 (up 53)
      Ukraine 3,469 (up 10)
      Australia 3,493 (up 697)
      Switzerland 3,902 (down 561)
      Hungary 4,823 (down 265)
      Poland 7,159 (down 322)
      Algeria 9,423
      United Kingdom 14,654 (up 49)
      Turkey 14,906 (down 78)
      France 40,757 (up 2,364)
      Pakistan 42,988
      Spain 43,275 (down 3,549)
      Brazil 54,291
      United States 79,761 (up 795)
      India 191,045 (down 16,096)

3880. Comment by Health101 | November 14th, 2011

      No one cares beave or eugene or road warrior or whoever or whichever name you use. One person trying to make this blog sound important. Its just you and me now beave or is it eagle? So why do you continue to question those numbers? Add them together and you have a global business DAH. That’s what you never seem to understand. Dubli is working. Its moving forward everywhere. Some stats don’t have to add up because this thing is exploding. People make money but you hate that like your jealous. Get off my case! Ive explained this until Im blue in the face. Nothing will change your mind. Maybe I should take you in for some training. Maybe youll understand what your missing on. You have never understood simple explanations like you cant see. Does the global nature of Dubli scare you? Prepared for more fear! LOL. This thing keeps growing and 2012 is the big year. The VERY big year. I know youll doubt but just wait. Youll kick yourself. I’m serious. I talk to people all day long about this so I know what Im doing. Interest keeps growing. Check out the Dubli website and see reall facts for yourself. Im not kidding about all this and I don’t understand why you don’t get it?

3881. Comment by The Road Warrior | November 15th, 2011

      Gene – what is it about this company that blinds you so badly?

      “Dubli is working”

      Fact – It isn’t. I was away from this blog for 18 months and upon returning, found the less than impressive web traffic still less than impressive. No growth.

      “Some stats don’t have to add up because this thing is exploding”

      I don’t need to make smart comments here to highlight the absolute absurdity of that comment.

      Your first post was on October 29th, 2008. Back then you were saying the same thing.

      You see that 3 years have passed since that first post and every comment you make alludes to next year being the “big year”…or a launch…or growing interest…or the fact that you’re “not kidding”.

      I’m looking at the website. All the “portals”. The same inconsistencies remain – except now there is a reverse trend in that auctions are shown to have between 1% and 5% savings (instead of the 97% – 100% savings) to look more realistic. Yet they are still being won by the SAME PEOPLE. Over and over. Look at it for yourself. Intelligent people just don’t fall for that sort of rubbish.

      So many facts have been outlined over the past 3 years. And still those within DubLi fail to respond to them in a meaningful way.

      The fact is…what you are told in your “meetings”, “webinars”, “gatherings” etc simply does not agree with the real world facts:

      DubLi is there, it exists. But most people don’t really care.

3882. Comment by Eugene | November 21st, 2011

      This week’s Alexa update:

      Global 12,194 (down 209)

      Kazakhstan 576 (up 37)
      Russia 1,852 (up 339)
      Germany 2,051 (down 57)
      Latvia 2,075 (up 295)
      Austria 2,247 (up 429)
      Australia 2,741 (up 752)
      Slovenia 2,790 (up 383
      Switzerland 3,415 (up 487)
      Ukraine 3,622 (down 153)
      Hungary 5,785 (down 962)
      Poland 7,323 (down 164)
      Algeria 9,404 (up 19)
      Turkey 15,213 (down 307)
      United Kingdom 16,132 (down 1226)
      France 37,225 (up 3532)
      Pakistan 43,082 (down 94)
      Brazil 45,060 (up 9231)
      Spain 47,303 (up 4028)
      United States 81,833 (down 2072)
      India 129,273 (up 61772)

3883. Comment by Health101 | November 24th, 2011

      You’ve just shown everyone what A GLOBAL EBUSINESS looks like. Thanks Eugene LOL. Goes against your point whatever that was. Impressive numbers in anyones book. You guys just cant think straight sometimes. LOL. So we trade everywhere. Get into this business which is growing at a crazy rate all over the world. You couldn’t even make a dent beave LOL.

3884. Comment by The Road Warrior | November 24th, 2011

      Those numbers are showing that DubLi is BARELY MAKING A DENT. The sites around the world are not ranking high enough to show that this business plan is successful.

      Reason: Most people see DubLi for what it is. A scam.

      Fact: The money you are making (if you are) is PRIMARILY coming from signing up business associates.

      Another fun stat…

      Unique visitor numbers to the following sites for Sept 2011:

      Ebay (ebay.com) – 77,232,991
      Amazon (amazon.com)- 83,927,992
      Dubli (dubli.com) – 3,538

      I am OVERWHELMED!!

      Could be time for a “launch”?

3885. Comment by Eugene | November 28th, 2011

      This week’s Alexa update

      Global 12117 (up 77)

      Kazakhstan 496 (up 80)
      Russia 1,703 (up 149)
      Germany 2,170 (down 95)
      Austria 2,366 (down 119)
      Australia 2,599 (up 142)
      Latvia 2,821 (down 746)
      Slovenia 2,931 (down 141)
      Switzerland 3,969 (down 554)
      Ukraine 4,178 (down 556)
      Hungary 4,900 (up 885)
      Poland 7,376 (down 53)
      Algeria 8,787 (up 617)
      Colombia 9,538
      Turkey 17,263 (down 2050)
      United Kingdom 17,314 (down 1182)
      Pakistan 36,262 (up 6820)
      France 38,374 (down 1149)
      Brazil 45,107 (down 47)
      Spain 56,948 (down 9645)
      Canada 57,815
      United States 84,477 (down 2644)
      India 118,197 (up 11076)

3886. Comment by Health101 | November 28th, 2011

      I don’t know where road warroior pulls these figures from. LOL How do you explain Dubli’s global success. Millionaires are being created and there is a huge supply chain. Everything is on the go for 2012 – the big year. The global push is incredible. Im talking to people from all over. My phones running hot with calls from Asia, wherever. So all those crazy figures you say just don’t add up. Trust me. Dubli is huge ands getting bigger. You never understood ebusiness and you never will. Why am I trying to understand what you say? It doesn’t make sense. Must be more of your antics to discredit this wonderful company that’s giving hope all over the world. You don’t understand the giving part that is Dubli. You never will. Why are you trying to make up all this stuff about Dubli? How many unigue visitors to this wonderful blog? You guys don’t seem to get how minor all this complaining is to a global company like Dubli. Its so big. Ive seen seminars with thousands, Your figures don’t add up.

3887. Comment by The Road Warrior | November 28th, 2011

      The figures are from here…

      http://siteanalytics.compete.com/dubli.com/

      Please take the time to go and have a look. Notice in 07/11, the figures spike to 80,000 visitors (still awful numbers when comparing to the US population). Same happened in Australia. Then it settled back down to it’s current, terrible numbers.

      You asked an interesting question (for a change). How many unique visitors to this blog. Well you can check that too. In Oct 2011, there were 1233.

      DubLi’s numbers were 3538 for the same month.

      WOW!!

      The Spin Factor (one indepenent site) vs DubLi (the GIANT GLOBAL EBUSINESS SHOPPING PORTAL)

      And the numbers are comparable.

      “You guys don’t seem to get how minor all this complaining is to a global company like Dubli”

      I doubt that you mean that.

      Every time someone types “dubli” into a search engine like Google, it auto-completes with the word “scam” as the first option. Then they see THIS site right in their face.

      In fact, in Australia, the first 3 search results relate to being “Dublious” (I like that one) with this site rating second.

3888. Comment by Eugene | November 29th, 2011

      It’s also almost time for Medianet’s annual report, although based on the usual delays, I don’t think we will see that until January.

      Of course, according to Gene, those numbers are all made up too, right?

      Personally, if I was going to make up numbers for a company, I would make up ones that looked a little more optimistic. But that’s just me

3889. Comment by butthead | December 2nd, 2011

      Why didn’t I see it? We are so stooopid! After looking at all of the “winners” of auctions and seeing many of the same winners reappear time and again under different names in different countries I finally figured out Dubli’s Master Plan:Michael Hansen is cloning customers! Millions of customers? No, Dubli will have billions! BA’s are sure to follow as the formula is well known (inbred sheep DNA and chaga mushrooms combined with a sprinkling of methamphetamine).

      I also have some intel on the new Dubli Senior Vice President promotion for 2012. The first Dubli BA to attain the all illusive goal of Senior Vice President in 2012 gets the following:

      1. A fully restored DeLorean motorcar with a full functional “Mr. Fusion” brand fusion generator (winner must supply their own flux converter).

      2. The Crown Jewels.

      3. A 50% off coupon at the International House of Pancakes.

      4. Acting instruction from Steven Seagal.

      5. Proper acting and obedience instruction from Mistress Svetlana (must bring your own mouth ball and leash).

      6. A unicorn.

      A hand picked group of 12 Dublidiots will get to show up at a resort in Florida and pose in front of a Bentley day rental and pretend that they might win one from the company even though it would probably bankrupt Dubli to give one away. . . oh, wait, that was the last promotion.

      I’m assured this intel is highly accurate as Mistress Svetlana told me that my research was accurate and she did seem to know a lot about the upper Dubli brass.

3890. Comment by Mr Cynic | December 3rd, 2011

      hahahehehehegiggledygiggledysnorthaha……………acting instructions from Steven Seagull…………..eeeeeehehehehee…

3891. Comment by Eugene | December 5th, 2011

      This week’s Alexa update:

      Global 12069 (up 48)

      Kazakhstan 527 (down 31)
      Russia 1,684 (up 19)
      Austria 1,720 (up 646)
      Germany 2,209 (down 39)
      Australia 2,462 (up 137)
      Ukraine 3,945 (up 233)
      Hungary 4,960 (down 60)
      Switzerland 5,352 (down 1383)
      Algeria 8,602 (up 185)
      Colombia 8,641 (up 897)
      Poland 8,987 (down 1611)
      Malaysia 11,647
      Turkey 17,453 (down 190)
      United Kingdom 20,194 (down 2280)
      Pakistan 35,400 (up 862)
      Brazil 36,503 (up 8604)
      France 47,167 (down 8793)
      Canada 51,953 (up 5862)
      Spain 55,815 (up 1133)
      United States 105,527 (down 21050)
      India 116,972 (up 1405)

3892. Comment by The Road Warrior | December 5th, 2011

      Gene

      Here is a fairly good reason why DubLi is not the raging success you believe it to be (…another reason on top of all the “lying” graphs and stock reports)

      I currently need two things. One is a concert ticket for a music festival on this weekend and the other is a copy of Stephen King’s new novel for a Christmas present.

      I didn’t really expect DubLi to help me with the concert ticket. Right I was.

      I did think though that I would be able to find and purchase a book by a world famous author for a good price. That is, if DubLi can deliver on what it promises.

      After 5 minutes of navigating the AU shopping mall, typing “stephen king” and “11/22/63″ into the search field….nothing came up that remotely satisfied my query. I mean, it’s supposed to be simple right? I then got very, very, VERY frustrated. Then I clicked on Categories, and noticed that I could go to seekbooks.com.au (which I could have done anyway). But I don’t go there because the books are too expensive.

      After a quick trip to bookdepository.com, I located my book for $20.60 (AUD) and free shipping. It was $32.99 plus $6.95 shipping from DubLi’s suggestion.

      Do you see how that one example will turn a customer off for good?

      Do you see that the auctions are not fun? When someone buys credits and spends money bidding on something and loses, that is not fun. That is stupid.

      If I’m on ebay, and I bid, and I don’t win the item, I am not down on money. In the DubLi auction, if I don’t win, I AM down on money. THE CONCEPT IS RIDICULOUS.

      In the mall, when navigation is not intuitive and results don’t appear or return items that can easily be found cheaper elsewhere, that is not fun either!

      I realise this will fall on deaf ears…that you will respond with things like:

      “How do you explain Dubli’s global success. Millionaires are being created and there is a huge supply chain. Everything is on the go for 2012 – the big year. The global push is incredible. Im talking to people from all over. My phones running hot with calls from Asia, wherever”

      But it satisfies me. I actually gave it a go (a small go) and it was shit!

3893. Comment by Texarse | December 6th, 2011

      “How do you explain Dubli’s global success?”

      Lies, marketing spin and confusing double-talk?

      Cognitive dissonance?

      A complete unwillingness to accept facts that are staring you in the face?

3894. Comment by Eugene | December 6th, 2011

      …To which I would add:

      A constant supply of people that are sufficiently interested in getting something for nothing that they don’t do their due diligence, and get suckered.

      To be honest, if they weren’t suckered by Dubli, it would be something else.

3895. Comment by The Road Warrior | December 6th, 2011

      Agreed.

      When Gene said, “Why am I trying to understand what you say? It doesn’t make sense”

      Says it all.

3896. Comment by Health101 | December 7th, 2011

      Now all you boys just the same person. LOL. Yu really take the cake stooping this low. You don’t even know what your saying. The Dubli model is guaranteed and will be proven next year. That’s whats happening in the global economy. The GFC is actually helping to focus people on the real and that’s where Dubli comes in as a global player. The best brands at the lowest prices anywhere. Its proved time and time again and you claim to not be able to see it. Either you lie or it just is too hard to see. Come to my website and I can set you up with several options. See Dubli has flexibility and that makes sense today. I don’t know why Im having to give you a business lesson free. You still don’t get it and you never will. Take my advice and stay in your boring jobs. Keep working for the man. Remember j.o.b. stands for just over broke. When you get tired of that mess come and see me.

3897. Comment by kees | December 7th, 2011

      In the meanwhile over at SEC:

      Form 8-K
      Filing Date 2011-12-06
      Item 4.02: Non-Reliance on Previously Issued Financial Statements or a Related Audit Report or Completed Interim Review
      http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1097792/000114420411068578/v242394_8k.htm

      Seems we’ll be treated to some financial adjustments over the past few quarterly reports again

3898. Comment by kees | December 7th, 2011

      “On December 2, 2011, during the Company’s year-end close procedures conducted during the audit of its September 30, 2011 financial statements, management concluded after discussions with Cherry Bekaert & Holland, L.L.P., the Company’s recently engaged independent registered public accounting firm, that a misstatement occurred in the preparation of the Annual Report on Form 10-K for the year ended September 30, 2010.

      The misstatement was the result of an error in estimating breakage revenue from unused DubLi Credits resulting from a fourth quarter 2010 change in accounting estimate for such breakage. This amount represented management’s best estimate of the remaining unused DubLi Credits that would never be used and thus reduced the deferred revenue liability and increased revenue recognized based upon historical statistical utilization rates.

      Management, after discussions with Cherry Bekaert & Holland, L.L.P., concluded that this method did not properly recognize breakage revenue. The Company has revised its breakage policy to include only DubLi Credits remaining in closed user accounts and is developing system changes that will automatically determine expiration. At this time, the Company is unable to determine the amount of changes and is in the process of finalizing such amount. These adjustments will also affect the Quarterly Reports for the periods ended December 31, 2010, March 31, 2011 and June 30, 2011.

      On December 2, 2011, the audit committee of the Company’s board of directors discussed the matter with Cherry Bekaert & Holland, L.L.P., and reached the conclusion that, as a result of such adjustments, the Company’s previous financial statements for the year ended September 30, 2010 and the quarterly periods ended December 31, 2010, March 31, 2011 and June 30, 2011 should not be relied upon because of the error that requires a restatement of such financial statements.”

3899. Comment by The Road Warrior | December 7th, 2011

      Dear Gene

      You’re not a very good salesperson, are you?

      You said:

      “Come to my website and I can set you up with several options”

      Then in the same post, you said:

      “You still don’t get it and you never will. Take my advice and stay in your boring jobs. Keep working for the man.”

      To be honest, your blind acceptance of what DubLi tells you is frightening.

      Can I ask a serious question?

      Do you think that the figures in the Medianet reports are made up?

3900. Comment by Health101 | December 9th, 2011

      All you boys so worried about the accounting side. Dubli is based on excitement and what people want to know about. You guys got it all wrong. Every business can be criticized. Dublis no different and that’s why its real. Climb down off your high horse and youll see a great business model that helps people. Don’t worry about the finer details. That stuff is for the accountants to worry about. LOL. Just make money with Dubli. Its simple and it works. Don’t believe everyone here. If Id had listened to them all I wouldnt be in Dubli today. Its that simple. I don’t accept the deadend job. I wont go back to it I don’t care what. I make opportunities and that’s just the size of it. 2012 is when it all going to happen and you people are lucky because you can get in now. I do ebusiness so Dubli is a good home business and fits in with other stuff I do. With Dubli though, the hard work has been done. Nothing to worry about. Its stress free income flow from source to delivery. We deal with direct to the big players so they trust Dubli. Itd buolt up with millions of sales and that’s just the tip of the iceberg. Be in it by next year and you can retire early. Sounds simple. You guys are clutching at straws as we say because you Can find nothing really wrong with the Dubli business model. Believe it when I say businesses like ebay wish they thought of it earlier. Before Dubli. The basic idea is great.

3901. Comment by Texarse | December 10th, 2011

      Out of a sort of… morbid… curiosity, I wondered exactly how many ‘unique bid’ auctions were available at dubli…

      Are you ready for this?

      94.

      That’s right, 94. Not quite triple figures.

      There are 94 items available for BAs to spend their soon-to-be-worthless dubli points on (because they are not going to sign up again for another 12 months after the promised millions did not appear in the first 12 months).

      Seeing as how dubli was supposed to be the ebay-killer, I wondered how ebay compares with dubli.

      First item up for auction on dubli:
      100K of either gold, Rolex or Mercedes Benz.

      ebay has… Oooh… 194 2011 Mercedes Benzs ranging in price from $198,000-00 to $1-00.

      And… 20,585 Rolex watches ranging in price from $430,000-00 to $27,990-00.

      And… 612 bars of gold, ranging from $189,000-00 to $85-00

      Next, dubli has “Tiffany Sparklers Praseolite Earrings”, which are valued at $500-00.

      ebay has one of those, which also has a matching necklace. There is furious bidding on it, which has it up to $405-00.

      Next, dubli has a “Iconia Dual Screen Touchbook” Valued at $1,200-00.

      ebay has 14, ranging in value from $1,199-00 to $695-00.

      Next, dubli is offering “Christmas Surprise Day 6″, which is a prize that they “won´t reveal [...] until the auctions are over but [...] they will bring you holiday joy!” So we can assume that it will be your BA joining fee back? Or, maybe a p-p-p-powerbook?

      ebay only offers real items, so, there is no comparison.

      And, on it goes.

      94 of them. ebay has hundreds of thousands of them.

      The difference being is that with e-bay, I can see immediately what I am buying, what other people are willing to pay RIGHT NOW and what I would have to spend to have an opportunity to purchase it, compare it with the dozens or hundreds of comparable items also available, look at the seller’s history to see how satisfied their customers have been and all without me having to spend a cent.

      Or having to join up some faux multi-level-marketing, quasi-Ponzi scheme which, if it isn’t fading fast, certainly isn’t gaining any traction (my money is on the former, though).

      And, should I bid, and lose, I have lost nothing but time. I’m not out a cent. That money stays in my pocket. It doesn’t go to ebay or the seller or anyone else. I have lost… nothing.

      And, dubli is supposed to be the ebay-killer? dublis figures look like ebays rounding errors.

3902. Comment by jay | December 12th, 2011

      Heads up! There is evidently a new version of the scam: GRADUATEDEBTFREE.ORG (Not sure if the site is up yet)

      This is supposedly a way for a student to pay for their education and even make some money on the side. But in reality it’s just another dubli scam. They’ll take what little money the poor student has, get them to suck in their friends and family, have them waste time that they could be using to study or work a real job – and then leave them burned with no money, no income, time taken away from their studies, and alienated friends and family.

      Is there no depths to which these dirtbags will not stoop??

3903. Comment by Eugene | December 12th, 2011

      This week’s Alexa update:

      Global 12316 (down 247)

      Kazakhstan 543 (down 16)
      Austria 1,546 (up 174)
      Russia 1,991 (down 307)
      Germany 2,163 (up 46)
      Australia 2,295 (up 167)
      Belarus 2,815
      Latvia 3,246
      Ukraine 3,945 (down 580)
      Switzerland 5,687 (down 335)
      Hungary 6,256 (down 1,296)
      Poland 9,070 (down 83)
      Colombia 10,961 (down 2,320)
      Portugal 11,800
      United Kingdom 19,526 (up 668)
      Turkey 20,650 (down 3,197)
      Spain 32,902 (up 22,913)
      France 45,081 (up 2,086)
      Canada 53,102 (down 1,149)
      India 127,851 (down 10,879)
      United States 143,479 (down 37,952)

3904. Comment by Health101 | December 15th, 2011

      There you go keep telling your stupid lies. Dublis working and 2012 is going to to show all the beaves out there how stupid they are. Im sorry to speak so strong but I hate that you don’t think the damage your smart mouth is causing. Think about it. Im not kidding this stuff is having an impact on peoples dreams! If you don t want to make your dreams real stand back and let others get in there and make their money. Dubli model is brilliant. You were never able to disprove that and I think if you were honest in your heart you would agree that the basic Dubli business model is golden. Of course some people will lose money. Some people wont get it and get rid of credits. But Ive said all this before and the fact that the auctions are just eye candy and mean nothing. The whole aim beave is the global shopping mall. So you have the big secret LOL LOL. So I ask you again to stop all thelies and just be honest about it all. You know Dubli works. Just give it six months and all your negative talk will just go away. I know one day you will change sides.

3905. Comment by Eugene | December 15th, 2011

      That’s strange.

      On October 18th, Gene described this forum as:

      “…the five people who read this nonsense…”

      Implying that it was insignificant compared with Dubli.

      Now, he chides us for: …”the damage your smart mouth is causing… This stuff is having an impact on people’s dreams.”

      Hmm, sounds like either this forum is a lot more significant than he previously let on. The fact that Medianet’s lawyers tried unsuccessfully to shut this place down last year shows that they think similarly.

      Gene, if the Auctions are merely “eye candy”, then where is the company supposed to make its money? It has always been said that the auctions were supposed to be the draw to bring people into the shopping mall, or more recently the entertainment portal. But as Texarse points out, there aren’t enough auctions to generate a lot of traffic, and as the Road Warrior points out, the shopping mall is useless compared with more conventional online retailers. In recent months, we haven’t heard word one about the entertainment portal, which doesn’t sound promising.

      Regarding “2012 is going to to show all the beaves out there how stupid they are…” — Whatever happened to “…the amazing growth through 2011″ (Gene, aka Live Liberty For Freedom, May 24, 2011)

3906. Comment by The Road Warrior | December 15th, 2011

      Gene said: “…the fact that the auctions are just eye candy and mean nothing”

      On that I would have to agree!

      Pointless, non-entertaining, won by the same people over and over and over, little savings…

      Tell me Gene, when you look at the Express Auction page and see, for example, “No Ked Lee” winning a $180 gift card for $177.60, does that really inspire you as a fun saving? How many 80c credits did he use? Does he have to pay to have it shipped? Is there even a saving?

      The reason that the traffic to the various DubLi sites around the world are so low is because the auctions, as you said, mean nothing. And after losing money on a silly auction, if you are insane enough to have hung around, the shopping mall is a joke too. Overly complicated and without saving! This whole concept of VIP packages and buying credits to shop is simply not a good business plan. And the Medianet reports show that.

      “…the fact that the auctions are just eye candy and mean nothing”

      Do the DubLi Powers know you are saying this? I hope they are reading. I know they will be.

3907. Comment by butthead | December 15th, 2011

      We are fast approaching the required release time of MediaNet’s (Dubli’s parent corp.) annual report. Let’s all speculate on how much money they lost in the fourth fiscal quarter ending 9/29/2011 (Dubli’s fiscal begins on September 30th; not at the end of the calender year). I actually think they will lose less than previous quarters as they have been very quiet from a promotional standpoint. I’m guessing $825,000 negative for their last quarter. Anybody else? Gene?

3908. Comment by Health101 | December 15th, 2011

      You guys prove nothing. Should be lawyers with all the double-talk. LOL. I cant understand what your even talking about and I don’t think others can too. What you don’t seem to realize is that Dubli is a global ebusiness with millions of customers. How can it be any planer? Sure folks don’t just cotton onto an idea like that and just go with it. It takes time and just wait till next year. I have been assured by some very senior people that Dubli will explode next year. And they don’t say stuff for nothing. I hope youll be around next year to eat your words beave. A lot of us here want to see that and youll be kicking yourself when you realize that you missed the boat. What makes you tick beave? You use all these names like Eugene and Texarse and I don’t know what for. Its all just some negative stuff that don’t mean much no how. Why don’t you go back to your desk and sharpen your pencils? LOL. Dubli is for people who have a passion to help others and you think its all greed nothing could be further from the truth I assure you. Man you don’t know whats going on. Can we just wait till June 2012 and then youll see all this stuff clearly? In the meantime stop being negative and just saying made up facts and lies and get others hot under the coller. I haven’t got time for this mess I m busy.

3909. Comment by The Road Warrior | December 15th, 2011

      I find it amusing that MediaNet’s lawyers chose to try and shut down this site based on defamatory comments, yet Gene, a DubLi representative, says about his own company, “the auctions are just eye candy and mean nothing”

      Good one, Gene!

      “Dubli is a global ebusiness with millions of customers”

      Where’s the proof of the millions of customers? Just point out a source outside of DubLi that verifies this claim.

      “I have been assured by some very senior people that Dubli will explode next year”

      You said that in 2010…..and in 2009……and in 2008…
      Are you sure they didn’t say “implode”?

      “And they don’t say stuff for nothing”

      That’s true. They want you fork out for another year.

      “…stop being negative and just saying made up facts and lies…”

      We’re only looking at the stock reports that YOUR company produces and releases. And at the web traffic analysis that is freely available for anyone to examine for ANY website.

      Are you suggesting that the information supplied by MediaNet is false?

3910. Comment by The Road Warrior | December 15th, 2011

      PANASONIC HX-DC10 DUAL CAMCORDER CAMERA

      Just say I wanted one of those…

      DubLi:
      The AU shopping mall has one. Click on the link and it takes me to a website called Camera Paradise (a US site) where I can get get it for $196 + $75.51 shipping….$271.51

      Since I’m new to the Interwebs, and I’ve heard of this other site called eBay, I’ll check that too…

      eBay:
      There are a few hits…one for $263.27 (and free shipping…realising that’s probably been included in the price). Wow, that’s cheaper!
      But hang on….that’s not from a top rated seller. Let’s check the price from one of those.
      $266.81……..wow, that’s still cheaper!

      Sorry DubLi Shopping Mall……….FAIL

      Stay tuned for more exciting price comparisons as we further attempt to uncover the methods DubLi will employ to take on the shopping world WITHOUT the lowest prices.

      Credits anyone?

3911. Comment by butthead | December 16th, 2011

      The Road Warrior,

      You’re missing the value of the “fun shopping” experience created by the not so important but very important auction/eye candy lead in that hardly anyone uses but generates millions of customers. Did I explain that right Gene?

3912. Comment by Texarse | December 16th, 2011

      Now, dubli.com has a mere 88 unique auctions.

      Hardly a world-shattering shopping experience.

      If (though, more likely when) dubli goes tits up, I think I shall write a book about the experience…

      “Michael Hansen: My Part In His Downfall”

3913. Comment by Health101 | December 16th, 2011

      Just wait to next year and youll be eating crow out of the side of your mouth LOL. You guys don’t even make sense. What you say isn’t in understanding English. What country are you from? Speak da English hombre! Your stuff is just convulted stuff that makes no sense. Just wait to next year like I have to remind you all the time. You wont be say all this stuff. Id be buying Dubli shares if I were you ready for thre big take off. Remember the company has only been fully operational for several years. Its going a lot better than Amazon or ebay in that time you just have a short memory. Convenient. LOL.

3914. Comment by Eugene | December 17th, 2011

      Regarding Gene’s last statement accusing us of using poor/inadequate English:

      Truly, words fail me.

3915. Comment by Health101 | December 17th, 2011

      Wordsfail you because you have run out of negative words about a great copany. I think ive convinced you guys but no hard feelings ok? Just stand back and see everything ive said is true. Its true its all coming true by the middle of next year. Stand back its all going to happen. And maybe ill give you a word Eugene “Amazing”. You guys just woke up too late.

3916. Comment by Texarse | December 17th, 2011

      Seeing as how Gene’s accusing us of not making sense, I think I’ll have a look at his grasp of English.

      “Just wait to next year”

      Surely it’s “wait UNTIL/’TIL next year”?

      “and youll be eating”

      “YOU’LL”

      “What you say isn’t in understanding English.”

      I’m not sure what this sentence is supposed to be… Perhaps “WHAT YOU SAY DOESN’T MAKE SENSE IN ENGLISH”?

      “What country are you from?”

      Australia.

      “Speak da English hombre!”

      I assume that he is being ironically clever here, so, I’ll give that a pass.

      “Your stuff is just convulted stuff”

      “CONVOLUTED”

      “Just wait to next year like I have to remind you all the time.”

      See above. (Though, does anyone else find it funny that we keep being reminded that “next year is the big year”? How many years has that been said?)

      “You wont be say all this stuff.”

      “WON’T BE SAYING”

      “Id be buying Dubli shares”

      “I’D”

      “Remember the company has only been fully operational for several years.”

      Since 2002? That’s more than several.

      “Its going a lot”

      “IT’S”

      “better than Amazon or ebay in that time you just have a short memory. Convenient. LOL.”

      Well, maybe amazon and e-bay started out small, but, the number of items they had on offer didn’t lurk in the double-digits for very long.

      Sooooo… At this risk of being accused of an ad hominem argument, would YOU take advice about financial security from someone who is only on nodding terms with English?

      English spelling and grammar are, admittedly, difficult to master as there are rules, exceptions to the rules, exceptions to the exceptions, regional variations and so forth, but, math(s) is fairly simple. 1 + 1 will always equal 2.

      Bullshit + spin + greed will not equal instant money.

      Though, it does equal endless entertainment!

3917. Comment by butthead | December 17th, 2011

      Gene,

      Perhaps you should be saying “next decade” instead of “next year” regarding Dubli’s supposed upcoming success. This first decade is pretty much cooked.

3918. Comment by Health101 | December 19th, 2011

      Whatever. You still don’t make a lick of sense. LOL. All the negative talk means you’ve lost the ability to make sense. You guys still don’t get it? This thing is the next big thing next year.

3919. Comment by Eugene | December 19th, 2011

      …And last year, and the year before that, and the year before that.

      And still, despite years of Dubli being “the next big thing”, I have yet to run into anyone else that’s ever heard of it, or heard any reference to Dubli anywhere that wasn’t found via this forum.

      Given the online companies that have risen from obscurity to global dominance over the same time that Dubli has been operating in obscurity (e.g. Twitter and Facebook), that doesn’t generate a lot of confidence in either their product or their promotion strategy.

3920. Comment by Health101 | December 19th, 2011

      Twitter and Facebook are just flashes in the pan because they don’t sell real items. Facebook will last longer because it’s a blogroll linked with lots of people, But these ideas have a use by date. Its only people talking afterall come on!. Dubli gives you access to the best products on the planet, the cheapest prices on the planet and the best delivery network on the planet. Simple. Remember the 8 track cartridge? LOL. Yiou guys still not getting throught. How do you go with twitter? LOL

3921. Comment by The Road Warrior | December 19th, 2011

      But Gene…you remember how I researched a camcorder and found that I could get it cheaper elsewhere than I could through DubLi’s mall?

      Remember?

      Please tell me how the claim that DubLi has “the cheapest prices on the planet” makes any sense if I can find the product I want cheaper outside of DubLi.

      Imagine I signed up with you, Gene. And as a customer of DubLi in your downline, I came to you and asked that question. What would you say to me?

3922. Comment by butthead | December 20th, 2011

      The Road Warrior,

      Gene would direct you to a webinar showing you the “magic of MLM” with fantastic charts showing ever expanding downlines and stock photos of people on different beaches holding drinks with umbrellas in them. In other words, he wouldn’t answer your question (as usual).

3923. Comment by kees | December 20th, 2011

      here’s some more Magic:

      now at Dubli the amount of saved dollars/euros magically turns into the exact same amount of saved percentages

      http://i42.tinypic.com/15xtyfq.jpg

      no wonder they’ve gotten their numbers wrong again in their previous SEC statements (as they announced recently)

3924. Comment by kees | December 20th, 2011

      and it’s also Dubli-Magic how the Ford Mustang that was always listed as having been sold for $855.50 now suddenly is being listed as having been sold for $855.60

      http://i41.tinypic.com/vrd1ls.jpg

      

3925. Comment by Bart | December 20th, 2011

      How many ‘Sergei’s are there with the exact same family, testimonials, and different last names? Holy crap what a scam. Gene has to keep coming back to try and put out the eternal Springfield tire fire.

3926. Comment by The Road Warrior | December 20th, 2011

      It’s not only fair to question why “Sergei” needed 2 HTC smartphones…

      and it’s not only fair to question why two “Sergeis” have the same photo and testimonial….

      and it’s not only fair to question DubLi’s advanced DubLi-Magic software showing percentage savings greater than 100%…

      But please!
      The same unbelieveability with these auctions representing anything near the truth is STILL occurring.

      The first HTC in kees’ link (http://i42.tinypic.com/15xtyfq.jpg)

      Value $600.00
      Sold for $105.20

      We are supposed to swallow the fact that during the frenetic bidding among the millions of customers, that someone “clicked” the price, saw it was, say, $120.00, and thought…”No Way!! That is still too expensive” and declined to buy it.

      Gene: “Yiou guys still not getting throught”

      Um…yup

3927. Comment by The Road Warrior | December 20th, 2011

      Hey kees,

      Maybe you can help verify something for me. I was just looking at your screen capture in http://i42.tinypic.com/15xtyfq.jpg

      Is the phone that Sergei holding up even a HTC model?
      From the looks of it, it’s not.

3928. Comment by kees | December 20th, 2011

      Hi Road Warrior,
      I’m not familiar with the HTC brand, so I wouldn’t know, but when searching for pics of HTC Desire models I do come across quite similar pics… maybe some one else could give a more definite answer?

      What I do know is that Dubli’s Mall search engine isn’t delivering the perfect result… to put it mildly…

      Recently I was looking for a new electric 0ral-B toothbrush to replace my old one that was getting slower and slower…

      Searched for it (“0ral-b”) in the Dubli mall… Top 4 results:

      First result:
      “0ral Fixation Tour: Bonus CD”

      Third result:
      “0ral And Dental Trauma in Children and Adolescents”

      Fourth result:
      “0ral $*# He’ll Never Forget”

      Only the second result was related to the 0ral-B toothbrush (“0ral-b Pro Bright replacement Heads”), but even here we don’t see an offer for (one of the various models of) the actual toothbrush itself, but only for replacement heads…

      and this while at the left side of the search results it states:
      Related:
      “0ral-b clean toothbrushes”
      “0ral-b toothbrush”

      So, while the search-software did seem to understand I was looking for a toothbrush, Dubli still thought it was best to offer me some totally different 0ral deals as well

      screenshot:
      http://i39.tinypic.com/29mw08y.jpg

      It’s obvious that Google (or even eBay) does a much better job: put “0ral-b” in either one and you’ll have a hard time getting NON-toothbrush-related results … here you’ll actually be able to find any “0ral-b” tootbrush model you want … and find a good deal on it

3929. Comment by Health101 | December 21st, 2011

      You boys are sure a weird bunch caught up with trivial details all the time. That’s no way to run a business. But you boys are just desk pilots working for the man so you get mighty excited easily with your nonsense. Wait till June next year and Dubli will blow your mind. This company is looking the real deal for 2012 and the time is now to get on board. You desk jockeys should take your Christmas bonus and invest in Dubli and yes, borrow from grandparents if you have to. Got all me family in dubli even when they couldn’t afford it so I paid for them because I know they have a clear future fiancialy safe. That’s needed in this uncertain world. Wht not you guys get on board and really check this out? LOL Do you have vision? Are you watching too much TV? Have you even tried a reverse auction? Ypoull never go back to just boring shopping again LOL. Have I explained it all well enough to get you interested? Your curious aren’t you? Just a little? Click on my name and try out everything Im offering because this things global and yes you can make more money then you ever thought possible. If money makes it for you. Now you cant dispute any of that!

3930. Comment by The Road Warrior | December 21st, 2011

      Trivial details?

      -The Mall is not offering the best price on the Internet
      -The Mall search functionality is less than adequate
      -The auctions don’t make sense
      -The stock reports and web traffic indicate that the company is in trouble, lies about it’s customer base and has showed no growth over it’s lifetime

      And you refuse to respond to any of this with anything remotely resembling common sense.

      You are the worst salesman in history.

3931. Comment by butthead | December 21st, 2011

      Gene is kind of like a Chatty Cathy doll. Same phrases, over and over again, with the exception that Chatty Cathy dolls don’t speak in broken sentences.

3932. Comment by Bart | December 24th, 2011

      It wasn’t meant as a warning. It’s a spambot wanting you to click on the fake name. I’m sure you know that but other people that visit here may not.

3933. Comment by butthead | December 25th, 2011

      Bart,

      I knew it was spam; I was trying not to get into a lengthy explanation. After all, Gene was spamming us first and it wouldn’t be fair to let someone else just drop in.

3934. Comment by butthead | December 25th, 2011

      On second thought; the spambot’s message is more coherent than Gene’s posts. . .

3935. Comment by Health101 | December 25th, 2011

      What you guys know about ebusiness you could write on a postage stamp. LOL What part of global don’t you understand? Ebay isn’t growing like it did. Slowed down a lot and that’s just the beginning. That’s why Dubli is coming on board with the huge shopping mall. Cheapest prices on the net. Sure not second hand dirty and broken things from ebay but real nice newproduct. Anything you want 24/7.Why are credits so difficultfor you beave? Just get him and then bid.simple.Everyone else on the planet gets it not youLOL LOL. I guess I make business happen and why not? What do you do Bevae? Not your lies just tell it straight. Or are you too ashamed? My dubli account is growing and anyone can achieve what I have that’s the beaty of the global business model. I can help you do some busieness. I might sell you an ebook of my techniques. Its not a secret. LOL. Okay Christmas is time for dreams Dubli can make your 2012 dreams happen. Just believe more. By July 4 everything clicks for Dubli. That’s my promise. If it doesn’t you can all leave it. LOL. Youll be amazed. Not just words I ve seen the plan. Big time next year. Guarnteed!

3936. Comment by butthead | December 25th, 2011

      Health101 said:

      “By July 4 everything clicks for Dubli.”

      LAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUNCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3937. Comment by The Road Warrior | December 28th, 2011

      “Cheapest prices on the net”

      Nope

      “Anything you want 24/7″

      …And nope

      Now what?
      Oh yeah…the LAUNCH!
      Do we really have to wait till July 4th?

      Tell us the plan, Gene. Give us a hint. Seems that DubLi has sort of done everything they were going to do…Let’s see

      1) Reverse auctions as a hook to drive in customers. FAIL
      2) Launches in multiple countries. FAIL
      3) Bankruptcy and covered up launches. PASS
      4) Shopping Malls with the lowest prices on the net. FAIL
      5) Global Mall. FAIL

      Where can the next launch possibly be?

3938. Comment by kees | December 28th, 2011

      6) Providing correct, reliable financial statements. FAIL (again)
      7) Ability to timely present (correct) financial information to the SEC. FAIL (again)

      This just in:

      Form NT 10-K – Notification of inability to timely file Form 10-K

      http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1097792/000114420411071861/v244207_nt10k.htm

      “The Registrant was unable to file its Annual Report on Form 10-K for the year ended September 30, 2011 (“Form 10-K”) within the prescribed time period without unreasonable effort and expense because on December 2, 2011, during the Registrant’s year-end close procedures conducted during the audit of its September 30, 2011 financial statements, the Registrant’s management concluded, after discussions with Cherry Bekaert & Holland, L.L.P., the Registrant’s independent registered public accounting firm, that a misstatement occurred in the preparation of the Annual Report on Form 10-K for the year ended September 30, 2010.”

      “On December 2, 2011, the audit committee of the Registrant’s board of directors discussed the matter with Cherry Bekaert & Holland, L.L.P., and reached the conclusion that, as a result of such misstatement, the Registrant’s previous financial statements for the year ended September 30, 2010 must be restated.”

      “At this time, the Registrant is in the process of finalizing such changes. The Registrant believes that it will file the Form 10-K on or before the fifteenth calendar day following the prescribed due date.”

3939. Comment by kees | December 28th, 2011

      and:

      “As previously stated on Form 8-K filed on December 2, 2011, the Registrant anticipates restating its financial statements for each of the quarters for the year ended September 30, 2011 and for the fiscal year ended September 30, 2010. As a result of such anticipated restatements, among other potential changes, the Registrant anticipates significant change in results of operations from the corresponding period for the last fiscal year.”

3940. Comment by kees | December 28th, 2011

      Earlier, Gene wrote:

      “You boys are sure a weird bunch caught up with trivial details all the time”

      Yep, just some trivial details about Dubli having to make loads of financial REstatements to the SEC, again … and just some trivial details about Dubli not being able to report their financial results to the SEC on time, again…

      and:
      “That’s no way to run a business”

      Ah, you must be talking to Dubli now…?

3941. Comment by butthead | December 28th, 2011

      I have to wait another two weeks for the year end financials? I’m so disappointed

      But, wait! If I wait I’ll get to watch another spectacular Dubli launch in July! I’m sure it will be every bit as spectacular as the previous Dubli launches that were supposed to make Dubli bigger than Ebay and Amazon! Hoorah!

3942. Comment by The Road Warrior | December 28th, 2011

      Now don’t be sarcastic.
      This could be the one! It really could be!

      Us guys just don’t know ebusiness, don’t ya know? Cmon beave, you want to join, or is it eagle. Ecommerce is ebusiness. Business is excitement and numbers created and all that. Sure there’s spin but its all excitement and that flows through the numbers.

3943. Comment by Health101 | December 29th, 2011

      The old clocks ticking towards 2012 when Dubli explodes. When you boys going to sign up and start helping friends and family to financial independence. This stuff is for real and you still doubt it. Go to a webinar and the real truth. Millions of customers. This is gold and you cant stop it. Don’t you wished you had of listened to me before? You guys could have hundreds of people in your downline. Nothing wrong with that because they get paid too! Whats not to like about that? You boys like Bevae will never get ebusiness. Im a little sad as I write all this because you never will and that’s the truth. Remember July 4 by this time Dubli explodes into something so huge. Youll be selling every way and you wont know where all the money keeps coming from. This is the power of the perfect business model.Time to swallow that pride pie and get on board LOL LOL .

3944. Comment by butthead | December 29th, 2011

      Gene “Health 101″ said:

      “The old clocks ticking towards 2012 when Dubli explodes.”

      I’m sure Dubli will “explode” just like a gaseous pack mule after eating a load of cabbage.

3945. Comment by kees | December 29th, 2011

      I guess Gene has very high expectancies for the planned Dubli ‘infomercial’ that will hit the US public in 2012?

      youtube.com/watch?v=AbSHFEEO2Ds

3946. Comment by kees | December 30th, 2011

      What does this alexa graph tell us?

      dubli(dot)com (the site for the customer) vs. dublinetwork(dot)com (the site for the dubli BA’s):
      http://i39.tinypic.com/1zh05kx.jpg

      I think it tells us dubli(dot)com is mainly visited by dubli BA’s (the graphs are very similar), and that the BA’s click more on dubli.com than they click on dublinetwork(dot)com …

      What do you think, Gene?

3947. Comment by butthead | December 31st, 2011

      I’ve created an equation to illustrate Dubli’s “explosive” growth in 2012:

      One White Duck / Dubli_Projections^{10} = Nothing At All

      See if you can find the zeros in the equation. . . and my apologies to Ian Anderson.

3948. Comment by Health101 | January 1st, 2012

      Its 2012. Right? Now is the time when things will really move. Ive had phone calls already after the holidays and Im exciteid about this year. We have a million strong army of Bas motivated and raring to go. This is going to shock you. This company is a professional outfit and failure is not an option. Now is the time to build on already 20 million customers worldwide. I know youll say its all lies but it’s a fact. You cant dispte any of this with the scamapedia. You guys are out of your league with all this stuff. You don’t know ebusiness and you don’t have business experience. You just don’t understand a perfect business model. Its we who aren’t perfect and if we do right this thing is going to explode by July 4. Expect more fireworks! LOL. Look if dubli isnt the main player in retail by July 4 ill apologize to everyone here.LOL. you cant get a better deal than that. Now Beave do you have relatives who need extra monet? Why not send them my way? Ill show them how to make the internet work for anyone and everyone. Boy, you guys don’t get any of this. So just stand back and let motivated people who understand ebusiness and the new environment and apps and all that. Just let us through if you don’t want a piece of the pie. Im busy so ill check in about a month from now see if your still chewing out the side of your mouth. LOL.

3949. Comment by Eugene | January 1st, 2012

      Gene said:

      “Look if dubli isnt the main player in retail by July 4 ill apologize to everyone here.”

      Gene, do I take it to mean that you’re anticipating that worldwide, Dubli will be a dominant player in retail by July 4th? Have I read that correctly? If not, please clarify EXACTLY what you mean by that statement. (I’m sure that the “perfect business model” will explain this more fully.

3950. Comment by Health101 | January 1st, 2012

      I meant a main player in retail for this kind of retail. Its obvious you cant be number 1 in something you don’t even deo like car parts or accommodation. Just to clear up some of this Lol. I don’t want to over state this by Dubli is going to shock even beave with it economics by July 4. It isn’t rocket science this just works even in a poor economy isn’t that great

3951. Comment by Eugene | January 2nd, 2012

      So by “this kind of retail”, what precisely do you mean? Dubli has promoted so many different strategies that I’m not sure precisely which one you mean. Are we talking the online auctions, online shopping malls, or what?

3952. Comment by butthead | January 2nd, 2012

      Eugene,

      By “this kind of retail” Gene (aka “Health 101″) means:

      “this kind of retail that is almost, but not quite, entirely unlike Ebay or Amazon.com”

      (My apologies to Douglas Adams, may he rest in peace)

3953. Comment by Health101 | January 2nd, 2012

      Im sick of explaining stuff. You allknow what I mean. Im closing my mouth because you guys don’t understand nothing about ebusiness and a brilliant business model. Just wait what Ive told you and you’ll understand all there is. Trust me on this. I run lots of ebusinesses and that’s the size of it. What have you done beave? I made you a good promise even though you have only said crazy things all the time and writing me sick emails. You know what Im talking about! So you guys don’t have any vision for 2012? I do and millions of Dubli Business associate do. That’s what we do make a vision become real. You woill kick yourselve beave etc. 2012 will blow your mind.

3954. Comment by butthead | January 2nd, 2012

      Gene (aka “Health101″) said:

      “You woill kick yourselve beave etc. 2012 will blow your mind.”

      Just like 2011 did?

3955. Comment by Bart | January 5th, 2012

      “I run lots of ebusinesses”
      Ha ha ha ha. That means you run none. Ponzi schemes are not ‘businesses’ as you scammers try to make it sound.
      I run one successful, real business. I don’t need to keep starting ‘new businesses’.
      Why is it you internet scammers keep saying whatever you are currently in is the real deal until the next thing you are in and not one of you come back, eat crow, and apologize to the people you sucked in with your bullshit?

3956. Comment by butthead | January 6th, 2012

      Just for clarification, Dubli is not a “Ponzi” scheme. A Ponzi scheme is a financial scheme whereby the victims money is used to provide a return on investment above normal markets thereby enticing the victim to reinvest and recruit others.

      In my opinion, Dubli appears to be a “pyramid” scheme. A pyramid scheme is also recruitment based but does not use the victims’ money to form a false return; they simply tell the victims to recruit more and “earn” their share of the recruitment income. The characteristic in common is their organizational charts are pyramid shaped as both require continuous expansion to survive. Also, they all eventually collapse. . . all of them.

3957. Comment by Bart | January 6th, 2012

      True. But he stated his alleged ‘ebusinesses’ plural. The only dopes I’ve seen post that are the ones in the latest ponzis. And the reason they are in so many is to try and recoup their losses.

3958. Comment by Eugene | January 7th, 2012

      Gene said:

      “Im sick of explaining stuff. You allknow what I mean.”

      Ah, so when we try to clarify one of your grandiose statements into something that can actually be tested/measured/evaluated, you back off. Typical.

3959. Comment by Health101 | January 7th, 2012

      You guys just don’t know when to quit. Its been Gene this and Gene that and making up hooky nicknames and saying Im evil and all. I can take it but look the business model is perfect. PERFECT and I kid youv not this thing is exploding even in the cold. My phone is ringing and ringing. What about yours beave? Hows the boring job changed to the desk LOL LOL. You guys will never be free will you? With you it’s a crummy way of life and you want out but your scared to take the Dubli plunge. Jump in! and make money. What have you got to loose? The boring jobs you have now? Live in my world !!! I don’t do flashy stuff but my contacts are global and that’s exciting. Why not make it happen for you. Don’t be scared. LOL LOL

3960. Comment by Bobby Neetz | January 10th, 2012

      Gene McNeally, sounds like you need to answer your phone.
      Why are your communication skills so bad? Aren’t you supposed to be “king of ebusiness”? Didn’t Fortune magazine do a special story on you? Why the obvious lack of education with all the words misspelt? Have you heard of spellcheck?
      Here’s my list of problems from your last post: It’s, I’m, you, how’s, chained, you’re and lose. (There are other errors but let’s leave those alone.) Do you expect anyone to take business advice from someone who can’t master even the basics of English?
      Why not take some of the “millions” you’ve made from Dubli and spend it on some sort of Basic English course?
      Gene, I suspect you are the classic type mentioned on this forum before. You’ve been a failure all your life with your poor skills and poor education. Dubli provides you with a chance (a very slim one) of making some money for once in your life. Gene, I urge you to get out of Dubli and stop all this “talking it up”. It will be just one more failure in your life and you don’t need that. Also I clicked on your name (Health101
      ) and got a Mannatech site. Is that your latest snake oil? What happened to chaga mushrooms? How come it didn’t connect to a Dubli site? Do you even believe what you’re saying about Dubli? What is reality Gene McNeally from Douglas Nebraska? Or should I say what is your reality?

3961. Comment by Texarse | January 14th, 2012

      “My phone is ringing and ringing.”

      It’s probably your downline, frantically trying to contact you to ask questions like…

      “All the people I’m trying to recruit tell me it sounds like a pyramid scheme and I’m starting to think they’re right. What should I do?”
      “What the hell have you gotten me in to?”
      “Where’s the money you promised?”
      “How do I go about getting out and getting my money back?”

3962. Comment by butthead | January 15th, 2012

      Annual report is due tomorrow, 1/16/12, per Medianet’s request to extend filing. The quarterly report for the period ending 12/31/11 is due 2/14/12. I’m standing by earlier prediction that Medianet. Dubli’s parent corp, will show a loss of $850,000 in their annual report.

3963. Comment by butthead | January 16th, 2012

      Clarification:

      $850,000 loss for the quarter ending 9/30/11; not for the entire year (the annual loss should be a much higher loss figure). It must suck to be an investor in Medianet

3964. Comment by kees | January 16th, 2012

      Yes, MEDG is late now…

      In their latest “NT 10-K” form (Notification of inability to timely file Form 10-K), filed Dec28, 2011 they say:

      The Registrant believes that it will file the Form 10-K on or before the fifteenth calendar day following the prescribed due date.

      If the “prescribed due date” was Dec31, they “believed” they would file the anaul results on or before Jan15.

      In the “NT 10-K form”, MEDG also says:
      As previously stated on Form 8-K filed on December 2, 2011, the Registrant anticipates restating its financial statements for each of the quarters for the year ended September 30, 2011 and for the fiscal year ended September 30, 2010.

      In other words, this is a replay somewhat similar to their financial restating issues they had a year ago when they wrote in their previous “NT 10-K form” dated Dec30, 2010:

      As previously stated on Form 8-K, filed on December 16, 2010, as amended by Form 8-K/A filed on December 21, 2010, the Company anticipates restating its financial statements for each of the quarters for the year ended September 30, 2010 and for the fiscal year ended September 30, 2009.

      On both occasions (NT 10-K form) they also wrote:
      As a result of such anticipated restatements, among other potential changes the Company anticipates significant change in results of operations from the corresponding period for the last fiscal year.

      So, it’s gonna be exciting and revealing again

      And based on the “net loss for the third quarter was $1.1 million” (MEDG Press Release Mon, Aug 15, 2011 ‘MediaNet Group Technologies, Inc. Announces Third Quarter and Nine Month Results’), Beavis could well be right with his prediction…

3965. Comment by bet links | January 18th, 2012

      Thank you for the good writeup. It if truth be told was a leisure account it. Glance complicated to more added agreeable from you! However, how can we be in contact?

3966. Comment by The Road Warrior | January 18th, 2012

      I assume bet links is a real person, so I disabled all virus protection, clicked on the link and immediately handed over my credit card and bank details without even being asked.

      Much like people do with DubLi

      Right Gene?
      That’s right isn’t it?

3967. Comment by butthead | January 25th, 2012

      Looks like Medianet (parent of Dubli) will be facing de-listing for failure to comply with financial filing requirements with the SEC. . . again

3968. Comment by kees | January 25th, 2012

      Actually, I think being quoted on the Pink Sheets is already the lowest ‘rank’ a company with stocks can achieve … afaik it’s not possible to get delisted from the Pink Sheets quoting service ..?

      ¿ … unless maybe the SEC may de-registrate their stocks/shares for being late repetitively with filing there?

      ¿ in that case NO broker/dealer will be allowed to trade in any stock/share of the company at all … ?

      Anyway… excting

3969. Comment by butthead | January 25th, 2012

      kees,

      Medianet is listed on the OTCBB and, therefore must file to maintain their status. They can and have been de-listed in the past for failure to file in a timely manner with the SEC. The good news is their previous violations affect the time line for de-listing. I’m afraid that we won’t have Gene to “kick around anymore” after 2012. Enjoy the remainder of this forum everyone as I believe we are winding down. . . d own. . . d o wn. . . d o w n. . . d o w. . . . . . . . . . . .

3970. Comment by kees | January 26th, 2012

      Hi butthead,
      I think MEDG was listed on the OTCBB, but was delisted last year (due to late filing to SEC then as well) and since then it’s just quoted on the Pink Sheets, hence the ticker symbol MEDG.PK

      OTCBB ? Pink Sheets

      see also: http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/201.asp

      e.g.:
      “The Pink Sheets are different from the OTCBB. Companies on the Pink Sheets are not required to meet minimum requirements or file with the SEC.”

3971. Comment by kees | January 26th, 2012

      the ? was supposed to be a ‘not equal to’ sign

3972. Comment by kees | January 26th, 2012

      & see also http://dubli-unofficial.blogspot.com/ about last year’s delisting from the OTCBB

3973. Comment by butthead | January 26th, 2012

      Medianet got re-listed and had their “medg” ticker symbol returned:

      http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/medg

      But view it quick; it may not stay that way

3974. Comment by kees | January 26th, 2012

      Aha… but I use this site:
      http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=MEDG.PK

      and also via the link on MEDG’s own corporate site we end up on a Pink Sheets page:
      otcmarkets.com/stock/MEDG/company-info

      

3975. Comment by Eugene | January 28th, 2012

      I do think it’s noteworthy that Medinet is classified as OTC Pink Limited information, described as “Designed for companies with financial reporting problems, economic distress, or in bankruptcy to make the limited information they have publicly available. The Limited Information category also includes companies that may not be troubled, but are unwilling to meet OTC Markets’ Guidelines for Providing Adequate Current Information.”

      Gene, any further comment about how great Dubli is doing.

3976. Comment by Gene | January 30th, 2012

      I see you guys still love me. I haven’t been on this blog for over a year or close to it. I don’t do dubli just so you know.

3977. Comment by Texarse | January 31st, 2012

      Different Gene.

      So, old Gene. Why don’t you ‘do dubli’ any more? I’d like to know why, if you don’t mind saying…

      Someone who was ‘in’ and now ‘out’ would, no doubt, have an interesting tale to tell.

3978. Comment by Batten Down | January 31st, 2012

      So who is the real Gene? Is Health101 the real Gene or is Gene the real Gene? I’m suspicious at this last Gene post. Gene is still in Dubli it seems so from all the ridiculous talk. I think we have a troll but let him talk. Gene I don’t believe you are the McNeally Gene from Douglas. Can you prove it? What inside dope do you have? Why did you quit? Is that you Beavis?

3979. Comment by kees | February 1st, 2012

      Financial results are in
      http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1097792/000114420412005026/v245784_10k.htm

      Lots of info, lots of restatements, some quick figures:

      Comprehensive loss – Years ended September 30
      2010: $ 5,497,561)
      2011: $ 3,756,112

      . . . . . . . . . . .

      Nett Loss 2009: $ 3,377,366
      Nett Loss 2010: $ 5,106,730
      Nett Loss 2011: $ 4,157,034
      —————————– +
      Balance September 30, 2011
      Accumulated Deficit: $ 12,641,129

      OUCH

3980. Comment by kees | February 1st, 2012

      http://finance.yahoo.com/news/MediaNet-Group-Technologies-prnews-242352030.html?x=0

      a few quotes:

      “The year progressed as we planned,” said Michael Hansen, President and Chief Executive Officer of MediaNet Group.
      “We used the first two quarters to strengthen our team, our systems, and our product offerings and it paid off for us in the second half of fiscal 2011 with increased sales transactions through our portals and much improved revenues.” Mr. Hansen continued, “Due to the favorable response to our new Xpress auction format, I remain very excited about our prospects for 2012.”

      Mr. Hansen continued, “I expect our strong second half performance to carry into 2012 as we have experienced continued growth during the first quarter of 2012.” “We have not yet realized the potential growth from our new infomercial program that will launch during the first half of 2012, the new Partner Program and our expanding network of Business Associates around the world.” “These initiatives are important elements towards further building the foundation of our Company.”

      Net loss for fiscal year 2011 was $4.2 million resulting in a loss per basic and fully diluted share of $0.01, as compared to a net loss of $5.1 million, or a loss per basic and fully diluted share of $0.18 in fiscal 2010.

      “As we build, grow and better understand our markets, our customers and our opportunities, we will enhance and refine our products, their delivery and the resources required to support our businesses. We are in a dynamic marketplace, and MediaNet must and will be flexible and creative in meeting its ever changing needs and demands. We believe this year of continuing growing pains has positioned us for considerable success in the future,” continued Mr. Hansen.

3981. Comment by kees | February 1st, 2012

      Also in the latest SEC filing:

      [...] As a result, we currently anticipate that our cash and cash equivalents as of September 30, 2011 may not be sufficient, at a minimum, to meet our liquidity needs for working capital and capital expenditures over the next few months. We recognize that traditional lending may not be available to our Company because of the current global economic debt crisis, and because web based businesses, specifically reverse auctions and network marketing companies, are considered higher risk borrowers. Even if available, there can be no assurance that any financing arrangements will be available in amounts or on terms acceptable to us.

      Because of these constraints to future sources of capital and increased liquidity, in the event we need additional cash to satisfy our commitments and fund our growth, we may continue to borrow from Michael Hansen, our Chief Executive Officer. As a result of our recapitalization, we increased our authorized shares to 500 million, of which approximately 360 million are issued and outstanding as of the date of this report. Accordingly, we also may seek additional capital through the issuance of debt or equity to fund working capital, expansion of our business and/or acquisitions, or to capitalize on market conditions. The sale of additional equity securities could result in additional dilution to existing stockholders.

      Between September 30, 2011 and the date of this report, we have not borrowed any money from Mr. Hansen but he has committed to support the Company and make funds available for future working capital if needed. During 2011, we completed a private placement of $4.8 million in Europe using a Regulation S exemption from registration. We plan to make a second Regulation S offering available in February 2012 for 20 million shares at $0.30 per share in order to raise an additional $6 million in equity capital.

3982. Comment by kees | February 2nd, 2012

      In the 10-K filing it says:

      # Subscription Fees – “DubLi Business Associates” pay a $175 annual subscription fee

      # In 2011, revenue from annual subscription fees paid by our Business Associates made up 1.5% of our revenue

      # Revenues $ 23,799,707

      Can we then conclude Dubli had only about 2040 paying BA’s in 2011?

      ==> 1.5% of $ 23,799,707 = $ 365,996.605
      ==> devide $ 365,996.605 by $ 175 to get the number of BA’s
      ==> $ 365,996.605 / $ 175 = 2040 (rounded number)

      combined screenshot of the relevant info in the 10-K filing:
      http://i39.tinypic.com/1z3nz8p.jpg

      Can this be correct? Only 2040 paying BA’s? Globally?

      … or am I making some serious miscalculations or misconclusions here…?

3983. Comment by Eugene | February 2nd, 2012

      Another interesting thing that I draw from the information in Kees’ picture above:

      Medianet draws 32.7 of its revenue from the sale of Dubli credits.

      Of this 32.7%, an amount equivalent to 26.5% of revenue is considered to be “breakage”, or credits that expire without ever being redeemed.

      I’m not sure if this 26.5% should be subtracted from the 32.7% of revenue that’s due to the sale of credits. If this is correct, then about 81% of the Dubli credits that are purchased are never redeemed.

      If this revenue is in addition to the revenue from the sale of credits, then it means that about 44% of Dubli credits purchased are never redeemed.

      Either way. what does that say about Dubli’s offering, and how useful the average customer finds their credits?

3984. Comment by butthead | February 2nd, 2012

      What I took away from the annual statement was:

      4,824,958 received from a private placement.
      1,503,234 in cash and cash equivalents.

      “Burn, baby, burn. . . “

3985. Comment by butthead | February 2nd, 2012

      Oh, and the quarterly report for the period ending 12/31/11 is due on 2/14/12. Let’s see how much cash is on hand then!

3986. Comment by Eugene | February 8th, 2012

      Hmm, we haven’t heard anything from health101/Gene/whatever his name is for the last month or so.

      Possible reasons for this:

      - He’s figured out that his posts and reactions to them are the primary generator of traffic on this site (apart from Medianet’s financial results).

      - The recently reported financial results are so awful that it’s a waste of time trying to rationalize them away.

      - He’s finally figured out that Dubli/Medianet isn’t going anywhere and has quietly slunk away, like all of the other Dubli boosters that used to frequent this site.

      - His computer is broken.

      I find reasons 1 – 3 to be totally out of character for what we have seen previously, so I vote for #4.

3987. Comment by Health101 | February 9th, 2012

      You good old boys still at the same old spin dope I see. Dubli is going well in 2012 I can tell you all that and more. You don’t know anything true about it all. This is the big year and big money is being made. Ive got appoints all next week with this. Im still in it Beave and making money. Not as much as Id like LOL. But all of you can make dollars with this. The brilliant business model is the key. Free credits when you join and it doesn’t stop. Great products and great service. The webinars always offer some good advice to grow your business. Contacts are exploding. Ive made more than 1000 contacts since January 1. Not all positive. Some just abuse emails but that’s business. Its no problems. So this is the real stuff Beave. Reality. That’s the sixe of it. Too busy to say much but you’ve heard the spiel just sign up and change your life. The figures Im seeing at the webinars are amazing. The downturn is over and it full steam ahead. I told you this was the big year and you didn’t listen. Buy into this. I got scooters and other stuffat lowest price. And delivered right to the door. The service is great. But nothing to brag about you just expect that with such a great company. Wonderful training available. Get your teenager involved and just enjoy the ride.

3988. Comment by Texarse | February 10th, 2012

      Given that the threat of legal action seems to have evaporated (obviously there’s no money left to ‘put into trust’ to fight on), can eaglescout change all the groobli references back to dubli?

      Two reasons. Firstly, this site is slipping down the ranks when you google ‘dubli scam’ and that would never do.

      Secondly, the links to people’s personal dubli sites get broken because the dubli part has been changed to groobli.

      As for Gene, there are none so blind as those that won’t see.

3989. Comment by butthead | February 11th, 2012

      Health101 (AKA “Gene”) said:

      “But all of you can make dollars with this.”

      So I can make many Washingtons in exchange for Franklins. Hmmm. . . I’ll pass.

3990. Comment by Betty | February 12th, 2012

      HI
      I have watched this site with interest over the years. I live in Australia I am and have always been somewhat dubious about Dubli. I had some friends join all excited and then leave. But people in home based businesses do that all the time. The thing about homebased businesses is that you need persistance and patience. And you need to attract like minded people to your business. I agree that the published results of Media Net are appalling and it just makes me wonder how the business keeps going. But you know what? it does. So there must be something to it.Some people are making money (although maybe not in Oz)and they are the ones that come onto this forum to complain about all the negativity you have against this business. So here is the deal. Why are you people so down on this business? It is still going notwithstanding your suggestions up to 2 years ago that it would be gone and could’t last? Surely people are able to make up their own minds and their own mistakes. What makes you the font of all knowledge when it comes to Dubli? Haven’t you got better things to do than write negative stuff about Dubli? I mean if Dubli no longer existed then ok; but it persist and you do do too. Give credit where credit is due. Dubli must work or it would be gone!it gets to a stage where your negativity is like a broken record: it has no meaning because Dubli keeps on! all businesses have risk; let people make their own mistakes and stop telling them things that are clearly not correct. I don’t see on Australian government agency making waves about this business so it just cant be that bad. other wise it would be declared a pyramid screen or some sort of scam. The ACCC love doing that here. So here is the tip. Life is much nicer when you are positive; get off the negativity bandwagon and go make some money for yourselves!! You will probably feel much better about things. and by the way : NO I am not in Dubli – i don’t see how it could ever work: but that is my opinion having looked at it in detail in Australia 2 years ago. It may be different in the US where they seem to have more items to sell in one way or another. I saw your site then and cant believe you are hammering on about the same stuff now. Poor lost souls. Go out and enjoy your lives. WE are old enough and smart enough to look after ourselves and don’t need your opinions: as your know, opinions are like a-holes; everybody has one!!

3991. Comment by kees | February 13th, 2012

      Thanks for your opinion, Betty

3992. Comment by Jay | February 13th, 2012

      We continue to hammer on dubli because they continue to lie to their BAs and sign people up and take their money.

      The biggest lies are that BAs can sell dubli credits to their customers and sell products on the website.

      The truth is that nobody will ever purchase dubli credits: after a potential customer accepts the “free” credits that a BA gives one to try the gambling games (reverse auction is a very poor description) and they try the games – they immediately understand that it makes no sense. Witness that the only people playing the games are BAs looking for a way to get something/anything back for their useless credits. Further – note that even dubli reports that most credits expire worthless. The BAs couldn’t even give them away.

      The only way to make money with dubli is to continuously sign people up as BAs, there is no money to be made selling “product”. It is the definition of a pyramid scam.

      I agree that a positive attitude is a good thing to have. However, denying reality simply to be positive may not be a winning strategy.

      You may want to go outside during a tornado or blizzard thinking that “Oh, it must be warm and sunny somewhere” – but is that a smart thing to do?

3993. Comment by butthead | February 13th, 2012

      Thanks for your opinion, Betty

3994. Comment by Texarse | February 14th, 2012

      I’m an Australian too. I’m a firm believer in “if it sounds too good to be true, then it is…”

      Dubli isn’t listed as a scam by any government agency in Australia because… it’s far too small and escapes anyone’s notice. And, most people don’t report their losses to the authorities, because, when they realise they’ve been ripped off, they are generally too embarrassed to admit they were stupid and blinded by their own greed and fast-talking of their recruiter.

      “Yes, officer, I was told that I could make money if I could only convince people to pay 80 cents to view the price of an item and, at the same time, lower the price by 25 cents. And if I signed up other people to sign other people up to sign even more people up. Stop looking at me like that, I know how it sounds… Now…”

      People have come onto this site, bragging about how much money they were making and how sweet life was, but, if you click on the links to their websites or google them, you’ll find that they have moved on to other ‘business opportunities’ or their websites have 404d.

      Dubli talked about missing out on ‘getting in on the ground floor’ of amazon, google and ebay. Facebook is about to launch (or, in the words of beavis ‘LAAAAUUUNNNNNCCCHHHHH!’) it’s IPO, buy some shares there and see your money grow.

3995. Comment by kees | February 14th, 2012

      Notification of inability to timely file Form 10-Q
      http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1097792/000114420412008163/0001144204-12-008163-index.htm
      Filing Date 2012-02-14

      

3996. Comment by butthead | February 16th, 2012

      It’s only a five day extension. I can hardly wait

3997. Trackback by car buying tips | February 16th, 2012

      Olympic Rugby…

      http://e-nigrita.gr/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=823195...

3998. Comment by butthead | February 16th, 2012

      Post 3997 has an unsafe rating with Web Of Trust.

3999. Comment by Betty | February 20th, 2012

      ‘Dubli isn’t listed as a scam by any government agency in Australia because… it’s far too small and escapes anyone’s notice. And, most people don’t report their losses to the authorities, because, when they realise they’ve been ripped off, they are generally too embarrassed to admit they were stupid and blinded by their own greed and fast-talking of their recruiter.’

      not so: look at TVI. I agree with Jay that the credit are bogus. it is one of the things that really put me off whenI looked at dubli: plus the fact that the ’shopping mall’ is bogus. I mean why not go straight to the retailer on line e.g. the apple store etc? but none of you have answers the basic question. if it so bad how come it is still going and has not been closed by ACCC?

4000. Comment by Texarse | February 20th, 2012

      Well, if you want to, you can read about what ACCC says about pyramid schemes…

      See if any of the definitions or warning signs are at all familiar. Or, indeed germane to anything that’s being discussed here.

      http://www.scamwatch.gov.au/content/index.phtml/tag/PyramidSchemes

4001. Comment by butthead | February 21st, 2012

      Here I was hoping for the MediaNet quarterly report and all I got was the announcement of the resignation of the Corporate Operations Officer. Another one bites the dust!

4002. Comment by kees | February 21st, 2012

      Yeah wow, who would have thunk… the highly praised ex Microsoft, ex Groupon, just recently hatched new Dubli SuperStar has left the building after just 8 months… mmmm …

4003. Comment by Eugene | February 22nd, 2012

      Betty:

      If the credits are bogus and the shopping mall is bogus, as you admit, then what’s left?

4004. Comment by Ivan Spore | February 24th, 2012

      How much does Gene owe people he has conned into Dubli? Surely, he will pay back everyone he has “encouraged” to join? Even if he loses his house? That would be fair wouldn’t it?

      C’mon Gene, man up and pay what you are morally obligated to pay!

      How much damage, Gene McNeally of Douglas Nebraska, have you done to individuals and families by putting spin on this rotten company with its laughable “brilliant business model”? It’s time to make good on all that you promised these poor suckers.

4005. Comment by Maui Charlie | February 26th, 2012

      Hey Gene you owe me about $10,000. That’s for two gold memberships. Then there’s the emotional distress as I was isolated by friends and family. You made a lot of promises big guy so put up. You lied to me and I want to come to the mainland and come to your place and collect the money you owed me. You talked a good talk over the years. And now you owe me. I only joined up because of what you promised me. Expect a visit in the next few months.

4006. Comment by beavis | February 26th, 2012

      CHARLIE!!!!!!

4007. Comment by Charlie | February 26th, 2012

      I think someone is having fun with my name, I haven’t logged on to this site in over a year.

4008. Comment by Charlie | February 27th, 2012

      I’m still in Dubli. I have just been kidding around. What you guys say doesn’t put any kind of dent in Dubli. Dubli is everywhere in Hawaii and tourists are taking it back to their home countries. Poor old Gene was right and you couldn’t see it.

4009. Comment by Charlie | March 1st, 2012

      Funny Funny Stuff,

4010. Comment by Charlie | March 2nd, 2012

      Love the freedpm this site gives. Even now I’m typing this with not a stitch of clothing on. So what’s the question? I guess I feel Dubli good. Maybe Dubli great. Dubli is a lifestyle and it fits beautifully with the Maui lifestyle. I’m feeling great.

4011. Comment by Charlie | March 2nd, 2012

      Even more hilarious. Get me a jockstrap.

4012. Comment by Charlie | March 2nd, 2012

      Beavis you’ve always hated me but I forgive you. Stop posting as “Charlie”. This is worse than wikileaks!

4013. Comment by beavis | March 2nd, 2012

      Hey, Charlie, don’t pull Gene’s “there is a “beavis around every corner” routine on me. Anyone with half a brain can see the difference in writing styles. That includes the recently faked entries under your name, which are obviously not written by you or me.

4014. Comment by Charlie | March 2nd, 2012

      you guys are really reaching, My name is Charlie Drayer and I’m not posting half of these “Charlie” posts, but I don’t mind if someone else does.

4015. Comment by Mrs. Davis | March 3rd, 2012

      Charlie’s a jerk. Thinks a 10% tip is a big deal.

4016. Comment by Bubble Tea | March 3rd, 2012

      This is amazing opportunity for dubli aware people. 2012 is the year of the great push in US and beyond. The ducks are in a row and we’re expecting big profits this year. Every Dubli BA knows these six moonths are the crucial times. Things are looking more than promising. I saw a Dubli ad last week in a prety good outdoor magazine. There must be lots of others. There is a lot of money being spent at Dubli and the money is filtering down.

4017. Comment by beavis | March 3rd, 2012

      Bubble Head,

      Might you give us the name of the alleged “outdoor magazine” and the date of issue (print magazine advertising; how quaint)? And yes, you are correct when you say “there is a lot of money being spent at Dubli” as their burn rate should be placing them on life support within the next two quarters (unfortunately for Dubli, expenditures have been beating the snot out of revenues).

4018. Comment by Charlie | March 3rd, 2012

      Mrs. Davis.. Blow Me!

4019. Comment by Spartacus | March 3rd, 2012

      Im Charlie and so is my wife.

4020. Comment by Kees | March 3rd, 2012

      Charlie is the new Gene. More aggressive maybe but a real loser. Drayer you’re an idiot.

4021. Comment by Charlie | March 4th, 2012

      Keep talking Beavis your the loser. Always were big guy. In my day we had speedballs but thats too good for you.

4022. Comment by Charlie | March 4th, 2012

      None of that;s me. I’ve only poste six or seven times in the last three weeks.

4023. Comment by beavis | March 4th, 2012

      Yeah, I know. Total lack of finesse on the imposter’s part. Nothing like getting a middle schooler in the mix.

4024. Comment by Health101 | March 4th, 2012

      This is silly. Charlie always promised sending airfares and changed his bio and now he’s in the company fulltime. It’s a great company and things are finally moving in month 3 and by month 6 everything will just explode exponentialy. This is huge and just getting better with the same old qualities. I cant make things clearer. Get on board NOW!

4025. Comment by beavis | March 5th, 2012

      Supposedly :Health101″,

      You used the “exponentially” and you mostly spelled it right; Gene would have had more errors. Nice try, though.

4026. Comment by kees | March 5th, 2012

      this is not me btw, this is not language I would use.

      “Comment by Kees | March 3rd, 2012

      Charlie is the new Gene. More aggressive maybe but a real loser. Drayer you’re an idiot.”

      Eaglescout would be able to confirm via IP & email check

4027. Comment by kees | March 5th, 2012

      Btw, regarding comments 4001 and 4002:

      “Comment by butthead | February 21st, 2012

      Here I was hoping for the MediaNet quarterly report and all I got was the announcement of the resignation of the Corporate Operations Officer. Another one bites the dust!

      Comment by kees | February 21st, 2012

      Yeah wow, who would have thunk… the highly praised ex Microsoft, ex Groupon, just recently hatched new Dubli SuperStar has left the building after just 8 months… mmmm … ”

      Here’s Alessandro Annoscia still pumping the “trillion pages” Dubli Dream in Oct 2011 in Vienna…
      youtube.com/watch?v=fPs8P7cKNIA

      I wonder what was revealed to him to make him leave this Dubli Dream

4028. Comment by Eugene | March 5th, 2012

      Health 101/Gene/whoever you are:

      Would you care to elaborate just how Dubli is going to “explode exponentially” in month 6 (June, presumably)? That’s the first question you should expect to be getting from anyone you approach about getting involved with Dubli.

      Of course, you’ll immediately back off and start mouthing something non-specific when *we* ask for details.

      By the way — Are you sure that you don’t have “explosion” and “implosion” mixed up? Just asking…

4029. Comment by same old same old | March 6th, 2012

      you guys are just plain nuts again. Call me any name you want. what do “i care? Youve been at me from the begininning and you cant deny yourv attacks are a lot? Why? Something I never been able to figure out. What are you scared of? Money?well let me have it. LOL LOL. You boys are just small minded. Money is coming in big this year. Its the only business you can make money while you sleep. You think its funny but it works and thats a proven fact. Dubli will make your plans happen. No need to worry about that. Do what you must but xease all this silly nonsense.

4030. Comment by davy | March 6th, 2012

      Dubli is coming up with another way to exploit the innocent….this time, college students.
      The site is up, but not complete. They will promise that if a student recruits enough shoppers, they will pay for that student’s education, with extra money to boot. The site does not mention Dubli yet, but Dubli is the vehicle by which the student gets his pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Dubli will sink to any level to exploit people. Simply put, Dubli does not work. You eat your own credits at a loss. Period. It is an empty promise. And when you do get stung in this scam, the so called help/support system is a big, cold stonewall. They advertise how they hired a professional, Richard Robson, to streamline customer support, but in fact, it is a way to stonewall you with cold, impersonal, and untimely responses—to beat you down after they have stolen your money. Just plain wrong and evil. Please help keep good, innocent, hardworking people away from this place. No good person deserves the parasitic, cancerous abuse that Dubli offers. They only harm and exploit. Please pay heed to these words.

      The site is : GRADUATEDEBTFREE.ORG (funny it is .org)

4031. Comment by kees | March 7th, 2012

      Good catch, yep, owned by Dubli BA Alan Breen

      Domain Name:GRADUATEDEBTFREE.ORG
      Created On:11-Oct-2011 19:19:30 UTC
      Last Updated On:11-Dec-2011 03:47:53 UTC
      Expiration Date:11-Oct-2013 19:19:30 UTC
      Registrant Name:Alan Breen

      Who is Alan Breen? He’s in the same BA team as Dean Mannheimer, and the team previously included John Cini, who left Dubli but now pushes Lightyear Network.

      Archived page of the “DJ Doubler’s DubLi Ecommerce Leadership Team”
      web.archive.org/web/20100102004224/http://yourdworld.com/team.html

      See also my earlier post no. 3753, June 20th, 2011, where I highlighted:

      APRIL 30TH DUBLI GLOBAL UPDATE WEBCAST
      (short excerpt at
      youtube.com/watch?v=Dax3dRAMn-Q
      with link to original webcast (over 30 minutes) included in the text)

      Host Alan Breen:
      00:39 – 01:00

      “… and before we get started, I really think this call that we’re gonna hear tonight is so important to the point that I’m willing to call it The Shock That Will Be Heard Around The World and I’m willing to believe that the information that Dean is goining to give us tonight, along with Michael, is probably gonna create the Largest Transfer of Wealth to the Greatest Number of People in Modern History…”

4032. Comment by Eugene | March 7th, 2012

      If the traffic to the Dubli website (measured by Alexa) is any indication, there *was* a fairly significant spike in Dubli’s web traffic in the first half of last year. It didn’t last, and the traffic has since dropped back down to where it was in late 2010.

      Other measures of the Dubli website that can be tracked on Alexa (increase in % of visitors that only view a single page, decreasing % of traffic referred from search engines) also don’t paint a pretty picture.

4033. Comment by doit | March 7th, 2012

      Alan Breen, Rich Robson, graduatedebtfree.org , Tom Ashlock, Celeste Puppolo , Dean Mannheimer
      ——————————————————————————– Look out people:
      Dubli is coming up with another way to exploit the innocent….this time, college students. The site is up, but not complete. They will promise that if a student recruits enough shoppers, they will pay for that student’s education, with extra money to boot. The site does not mention Dubli yet, but Dubli is the vehicle by which the student gets his pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Dubli will sink to any level to exploit people. The students will be lured away from their important studies, exploit and borrow from friends and family, and get nothing in the end. Simply put, Dubli does not work. You eat your own credits at a loss. Period. It is an empty promise. And when you do get stung in this scam, the so called help/support system is a big, cold stonewall. They advertise how they hired a professional, Richard Robson, to streamline customer support, but in fact, it is a way to stonewall you with cold, impersonal, and untimely responses—to beat you down after they have stolen your money. Just plain wrong and evil. Please help keep good, innocent, hardworking people away from this place. No good person deserves the parasitic, cancerous abuse that Dubli offers. They only harm and exploit. Please pay heed to these words.
      The site is : GRADUATEDEBTFREE.ORG (funny it is .org)
      Some of the people behind this: Tom Ashlock, Alan Breen, Celeste Puppolo—if you are solicited by these people or their affiliates—-beware. They are intelligent, will psych you into the con, take your money, then privately laugh about it. Cancerous, parasitic scum. Nothing more.
      Sites to be aware of : yourdubliworld.com dublicenter.com doa2z.com dubli.com
      note: I was once sucked into the promise of how great this Dubli venture would be. Foolish me. I have since quit and am trying to help others avoid this awful machine. I am a sixty-two year old man. An interesting story, aside from my own gripes (which will be posted in thousands of locations in a collaboration with twenty-seven and counting active and scammed ex-Dubli affiliates and customers, some of whom are very savvy and certain they can take down this crooked beast) was when I tried to recruit a young man in the US. He told me he had already been stung by Dubli. A woman came to sell him on all the wonders of this great Messiah right after his father died. He was excited that he could help his mother with this new prospect. —By the way, a tactic I learned from my Dubli VP is to scan obituaries and then visit those people with a sympathetic story because people are susceptible and vulnerable at that point and likely to sign up for the great promise you offer.—- So he signed up for the Gold Package and paid his 3200 usd. Many misrepresentations were made to him before he invested. In the meantime, three other significant people in his life passsed away, allowing him no time to develop his Dubli business. When he approached the support people for an extension, it was denied. To get back his credits he had to pay the ransom of renewing his license. Then Alan Breen contacted him and told him he could make tens of thousands of dollars out of his remaining credits by purchasing gift cards on the express auction. Great right—–turn a couple thousand credits into all this money—-buy money at a discount—wow. Well Alan burned up all his credits in a couple days and was able to only recapture about a third of his investment. He is a Dubli expert and could only recapture a third of the investment! And then he and the associate who signed him up wanted to recruit his widowed mother by calling her house. They wanted to injure even further a widowed woman . How do you think it works for the average VIP cstomer? They eat their own dog food. It simply does not work. And the support people deliberately do not respond when you have been screwed. It is a all a scam. There is no legal recourse. They are offshore in Cypress. It is “legalized gambling”. They use some stupid legal loophole to get around the law. Your credits are lottery tokens. NOthing more. It is like the little mean kids we all grew up with who invented their slippery little laws and acted like “wow, look how smart we are that we worked our ways around the rules, everyone else are just dummies”—but at everyone’s expense. Even the support people on their Paylution cash out sytem say that the only calls they receive are from very unhappy people who have been scammed and defrauded. Other facts are that Russians hacked their system alowing themselves infinite free credits and bought up everything in the auctions. In other words, if you were gambling your credits to win something, it did not matter because the playing field was not even. You clicked away your credits on a rigged auction. Tough luck—Dubli will not refund the credits you lost in their system. No accountability. You are only as good as the credits you buy—which will only lead to mathematically probable loss. Crooked. The only way it works is to cannibalize money that members inject into the system. A big big lie. Be warned. This is only one story. I have heard many much worse. Those scammed just accept their losses but I am giving a voice to their stories. If you hear a REAL testimonial maybe I can prevent you from entering this thieving venture called DUBLI. I am reversing the bad karma i created by gettig people to sign up for this cancer. You can only lose. Too good to be true. The sociopaths promoting this gimmick only laugh about it behind your back. We have scammed young kids and asked them to borrow their grandparents money to finance it, veterans, anyone looking for a quick buck in these hard times. It is shameless. Honest, hardworking people are throwing their money at these con artists. THEIR IS NOTHING TO BE GAINED BY DUBLI. EVERY INNOCENT PERSON RECRUITED ONLY GETS HURT AND A FEW PEOPLE LAUGH ABOUT IT> I know.
      It will tumble down, however. Good always prevails, truth always prevails, and these bastards will pay for it all. God Bless to each of you and beware. Thanks for listening.

      Read more:
      kees is alan??

4034. Comment by Smith, A | March 7th, 2012

      I’ll bet “doit” (“do it” –get it?) is really Gene. This guy feels the sting of what he hath wrought. He knows the Dubli claim about “we’re just trying to help people” and all those claims about charitable donations is just nonsense.

      Gene seems in a dark place right now and I guess he deserves it. He did his “due diligence” didn’t he? (Dublidiots never do) Gene I know you’re suffering but I want to ask one thing more of you.

      It’s time you paid and compensated the people you got into this mess. Even if it means financial ruin for you. It’s the least you could do. Start paying out your downline now. You’ll be a better man for it. It’s your destiny.

4035. Comment by kees | March 10th, 2012

      I don’t think it’s Gene… seems like this person is posting here as well:
      http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/showthread.php?t=28229&page=3

      Looks like a genuine victim…?

4036. Comment by beavis | March 13th, 2012

      Well, the Medianet annual report is in:

      http://secfilings.nasdaq.com/filingFrameset.asp?FileName=0001144204-12-014524.txt&FilePath=\20123\13\&CoName=MEDIANET+GROUP+TECHNOLOGIES+INC&FormType=10-Q&RcvdDate=3%2F13%2F2012&pdf=

      It’s like this; if they recover the +2 million dollars from their former credit card company that they just got a favorable judgment against they can live a little longer; otherwise, 2012 may be the end. Liquid cash is now down to approximately $786,000 USD (rounding up). . . and then there is this:

      Comprehensive loss for 2011 $ (2,923,711)

      OUCH!

      Also look at the current liabilities; it ain’t purrdy. In fact, it doesn’t take a visionary genius like Michael Hansen to see where this is going.

4037. Comment by kees | March 13th, 2012

      Yeah wow, but it’s a quarterly report, so that Comprehensive loss is only for the Three Months ended December 31, being the first quarter of MEDG’s fiscal year of 2012

      Press release from MEDG:
      http://finance.yahoo.com/news/medianet-group-technologies-announces-results-185400584.html

4038. Comment by kees | March 13th, 2012

      see post 3979 for the results of fiscal year 2011:
      comprehensive loss for the year 2011 was: $ 3,756,112

4039. Comment by WA | March 15th, 2012

      Hey Gene remember when you said you got a hundred Bas in a couple of months? And you couldn’t wait for the next month? Remember all that back in 2009? What happened to your empire of sand? Do you still call Michael Hansen friend? Does your wife still respect you? Please pay your debts to your downline.

4040. Comment by just visiting | March 16th, 2012

      They all knew what they were getiing into. This is power selling and its still a good model. Some people have failed at it but you got to look at the numbers. They are moving solid and its all positional to be exploding in April, May and June. Everything is in sink right now for the final push and rhen youl see a different company. This stuff takes time and you people wouldnt listen or you couldn;t. LO”L L”OL. Sometimesi look at people say here and I know its just lies. You couldnt beat the brilliant buisness model if you tried. You all talk about auctions but the goldmine is the wonderful shopping portal selling to 7 billion. If everyone bought just $10 worth from Dubli that would be $70 billion !! Thats the kind of figures that makes this truly globaL and were only just seeing the tip oof the iceberg.

      I dont owe downline BAs anything since many are still amking money and in position for the big push. Profits are coming in and you cant believe the lies here. Get into this thing mskr money and have fun doing it. Also you help your community. We need this right now build this income for your familys future what can be me simple than that?

      Beavis isstill annoying I see. Haven’t you got something better to do? What about volunteer at a shelter? LOL

4041. Comment by beavis | March 16th, 2012

      “Beavis isstill annoying I see. Haven’t you got something better to do? What about volunteer at a shelter? LOL ”

      I respect people that volunteer at a shelter.

4042. Comment by Generic | March 16th, 2012

      Gene the big push? The only big push will come when you have constipation. It’s over. the dream is over. Are you the last man standing? Maybe if you hang around Michael Hanson will hand you the keys as his helicopter leaves the compound. Libya’s out for Michael Hansen but maybe he could try Zimbabwe. Hiding out there would be better than facing thousands of angry people. The lead ballon has finally burst.

      There is no big push. No explosion. No massive profits. There are just a few sad holdouts like Gene. Did you do your due diligence like they told you? (Insert 70 billion LOLs here)

      I think all the people in Dubli who persuaded someone else to become involved morally owe those people some compensation. People like Gene claimed to have thousands in his downline. I think he owes them for all the mess he has created in their lives.

      Gene? Any response? just me? same old same old? just visiting? Health101? Live Liberty for Freedom? guess who? guess again?

      Mrs. McNeally?

4043. Comment by Charlie | March 17th, 2012

      I don’t trust Europeans “kees”.You can pretend to sound reasonable but it’s all BS. Which side are you on? Do you support the machine? Not just Dubli any machine? Where do you stand? You Europeans stand for everything and nothing. All peace and light and then suddenly youre overwhelmed by the Islamists and can only bleat “we support free speech” as your journalists are killed. So which side are you on? Let the mosque preach hate? Or do you stand for free speech and democracy? Give me a real answer not European BS.

      BTW Gene never returned my calls. Couldn’t arrange any flights. More fear?

4044. Comment by guess again | March 17th, 2012

      Hey Charlie why dn’t you give kees a free flight and some nights at the Sheraton? LOL LOL

4045. Comment by Eugene | March 17th, 2012

      Idiots! Let’s keep this to the Dubli stuff. Beavis was the first idiot. You can’t top that loser in a million years. He obviously has nothing better to do and no one respects him. I rest my case.

4046. Comment by Charlie | March 17th, 2012

      Beavis let’s settle everything now if you tell me what the problem is? Why did you attack me from the first? Be a man and just say the truth. This feud has gone on long enough.

4047. Comment by The Therapist | March 17th, 2012

      You guys are big girls. Are you kidding? There’s a strong homo-erotic tone do the postings of Beavis and Charlie. Get wild.

4048. Comment by The Real Eugene | March 17th, 2012

      Not that it will surprise anyone, but post 4046 wasn’t written by the usual Eugene.

      (signed) the usual Eugene

4049. Comment by Mason Dixon | March 17th, 2012

      Yes, it was written by Charlie. Thanks “The Real Eugene” your work at the Ministry of the Bleeding Obvious is never done, is it? I guess you’ll tell us next that Post number 4048 was not written by Prince William. Thanking you in advance. (don’t bother writing anymore!!!) (That’s from all of us here!!!)

4050. Comment by Sommer Mccullers | March 18th, 2012

      I enjoyed your article.

4051. Comment by beavis | March 18th, 2012

      OK, I’ve had enough. I’m calling the mom of the new impostor on the forum. Oh, and eaglescout, can you mod this pathetic bitch for us?

4052. Comment by Charlie | March 18th, 2012

      This is hilarious, Why are you people still here? Pathetic

4053. Comment by Whip | March 18th, 2012

      And yet…..here YOU are.

4054. Comment by Charlie | March 18th, 2012

      And yet, Go Fuck Yourself.

4055. Comment by Mama Drayer | March 19th, 2012

      You’ve always been emotionally stunted mixed with anger management issues. I blame myself for not stopping you when you became habitual. Grow up son. Life’s what you make of it. What color is your parachute son?

4056. Comment by just visiting again | March 19th, 2012

      You boys have deteriated like a comedy sideshow. LOL. Mighty too much spice in the language there Charlie. I’m still waiting for my airplane tickets. ? LOL LOL. Hope yuor Mom can set yuor head right about the language. Noone want to heat tha kind of stuff. You people are always wrong. Dubli is going to success this time and I say again like I told you before you cant stop it. Noone can. Your dealing with a global market and thats why Dubli is a win wnin porposition. By July youll know and I said I would leave Dubl iif it didn’t I renew each September so thats the size of it.Join now~

4057. Comment by beavis | March 19th, 2012

      I guess this is a cause for celebration; we actually have somebody stupider than Gene posting here. . . as Gene, no less!

      Hint to the Dumb-ass; a few misspellings does not make you Gene.

4058. Comment by beavis | March 19th, 2012

      LOL, the stupid cow actually thought that by misspelling “your” as “yuor” and “no one” as “noone” that he/she/it was fooling everyone that he was Gene. As Bugs Bunny would say, “what a maroon”. Oh and “LOL LOL”.

4059. Comment by beavis | March 19th, 2012

      pathetic bitch

4060. Comment by Charlie | March 19th, 2012

      Mannatech? What a loser.. “Just visiting again’ sounds like you live in the armpit of the world, I wouldn’t concern myself about Maui if I were you. It’s just another beautiful far off mystical land you’ll never lay your eyes on.

4061. Comment by Wee Hard Man | March 19th, 2012

      Gene, Beavis, Charlie, Eugene, WA, Kees, Eugene, Eugenics, Hygene, Genome, etc

      Get a life. You missed out on the Golden Age of MLM. That ship has sailed. Other opportunities await in the area of Stock control and ware housing. It’s all about distribution today and a global awareness. I was in Dubli. Not of Dubli but in it. Now I’ve moved away. I can be anywhere.

4062. Comment by beavis | March 19th, 2012

      Wee you need the life. This isn’t the place for idiotic comments. If I want those I can just phone Charlie. He’s worse than Gene. He’s got a non-existent lifestyle. I caught him out in two lies and he still pretends he plays golf and sips maitais with “the big players”. No one is impressed Charlie. You probably don’t even live on Maui. BTW Maui seems like a brown desert compared to real tropical islands I’ve been to. It’s all in your head as Mama Drayer would say.

4063. Comment by just visiting again | March 20th, 2012

      A little judgemental there beave. Some people can dish it out but not take it. LOL LOL

4064. Comment by beavis | March 22nd, 2012

      Looks like our little troll has decided to impersonate me:

      “Wee you need the life. This isn’t the place for idiotic comments. If I want those I can just phone Charlie. He’s worse than Gene. He’s got a non-existent lifestyle. I caught him out in two lies and he still pretends he plays golf and sips maitais with “the big players”. No one is impressed Charlie. You probably don’t even live on Maui. BTW Maui seems like a brown desert compared to real tropical islands I’ve been to. It’s all in your head as Mama Drayer would say.”

      Once again, bitch boy, look at the writing styles; that is, if your are edjumacated ‘nough to do so.

4065. Comment by Gene | March 22nd, 2012

      The shopping mall is just eye candy for the reverse auctions. It has no meaning. We can’t compete against the big boys on the selling side. So the auctions is where it’s at.

4066. Comment by Charlie | March 22nd, 2012

      “This isn’t the place for Idiotic comments”? I think this is prime spot for idiots. If anyone has the guts to actually show their face hit me up on Facebook Charlie Drayer

4067. Comment by The Professor | March 23rd, 2012

      “Hit you up on Facebook”? Why? Every syllable you utter just shows you to be an uncouth contrarian. If you lie down with dogs you get up with fleas. I don’t want whatever your class thinks is acceptable. You grubby people make me sick. Stay inebriated and face the world through your haze. I’ll give you five bucks to park my car.

4068. Comment by Gene | March 23rd, 2012

      How dare you talk about our Charlie like that. LOLLOL. He’s like royalty in Maui. LOL LOL Apparently he owns one of the major Hawaii islands. LOL LOL Or so he says. LOL LOL

4069. Comment by beavis | March 23rd, 2012

      Trolls. This site has deginerated since Charlie reappeared. His self-loathing is infectious. Eagle, maybe you could ban Charlie?

4070. Comment by beavis | March 23rd, 2012

      Bitch boy strikes again (see above). eaglescout, you have the email addresses to mod this. If it’s not too much of an imposition, please ban this ‘tard.

4071. Comment by Charlie | March 23rd, 2012

      Gene, I have visited your site with the pictures of your Borderline retarded sons, I don’t really mind comments from these other Wankers because i’m not sure they even exist. But you on the other hand are a complete zero. I’m actually not Royalty or even a Super hero, but I out class you in every way possible. You spend way to much time on this site, and I think that’s why your boys read at a first grade level and have all the psycological problems they have. Like I’ve always said gene you’re always welcome in Maui, I will meet you at the Airport anytime, That is if the airline allows “Special needs” kids to fly. You’re to much fun Gene. I’m glad you’re still around.

4072. Comment by National Special Needs Initiative | March 24th, 2012

      You’ve just been cited under section 18 of the National Vilification Redemption Act (2009). You’ll be hearing from us soon.

4073. Comment by Paul or Pauline | March 24th, 2012

      Charlie and beavis are tight. Too tight Gene might say and then add a “doncha know” before clutching at his goin and typing “LOL”.

4074. Comment by Wily Mr. Beaver | March 24th, 2012

      Beavis is a troll. Always has been. He’s also a “has been”, too.

4075. Comment by Charlie | March 24th, 2012

      “National Special Needs Intiative” Nice try, I’ve been on this site solely to pick a fight with someone, anyone, If I get to hear from you I would love it, I was just trying to get gene angry by insulted his kids, but I don’t think that was Gene’s post anyway.

4076. Comment by Therapist Jane | March 24th, 2012

      I can help you Charlie. First, why are you so aggressive? Why the need to tell lies about your current living standards? Sounds like you’ve fallen on hard times. Time was when you promised to fly people out to Maui. Now you’ll just meet them at the airport if you’re not too stoned when they arrive. Quite a change isn’t it? How much money do you need? Maybe we could all donate some for your rehabilitation.

4077. Comment by Charlie | March 25th, 2012

      Any money would help, Bless you Therapist Jane for understanding.

4078. Comment by Micah | March 27th, 2012

      Hey, Maui police! Have you ever been to old Charlie Drayer’s house?

4079. Comment by Jay | March 27th, 2012

      hey, dubli press release:
      http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/639712

      They quote the editor of InternetRetaling, “The days when just having a web shop was enough to guarantee sales are gone. As wallet share shifts online and a tight overall economic climate persists, retailers will increasingly view the Web as a source of key strategic growth”

      Almost as if they were trying to imply that dubli has something to do with online shopping or growth.

      The desperation is palpable.

4080. Comment by just visiting | March 27th, 2012

      Jay you got some clog in your ear. You not thinking straight up . Nothing implied just a great positive company doing positive things in every community in the USA. This thing is starting to explode and the auctions are incredible. People are getting the cheapest prices on the net and having fun,\. Nothing wrong with that. Things are exploding early and the papers are full of it. E. Barton Fullerton is saying that the time of the global dubli process is here. No waiting till July. This stuff is amazing. Loving it all and making cash now.

4081. Comment by beavis | March 27th, 2012

      According to these stats Dubli’s annual gross sales of slightly over 20 million USD last year is less than one average supermarket:

      http://www.fmi.org/facts_figs/?fuseaction=superfact

      I’ll not mention the huge loss of almost 3 million USD that Dubli encountered in the process. . . opps, I did just mention it

4082. Comment by Eugene | March 28th, 2012

      Health 101/Live Liberty for Freedom/Gene/whoever you are:

      Just a couple of past statements I’d like to be updated on:

      In post 3775 (August 3, 2011), you stated “How much should you pay for 300 million customers? You can dispute that but that’s what the figures will be middle of next year.”

      How are the 300 million customers doing?

      Also, in post 3948 (January 1, 2012), you stated: “Look if dubli isnt the main player in retail by July 4 ill apologize to everyone here.”

      Note that we’re almost halfway to July 4th, and I don’t see any signs of Dubli becoming “the main player in retail”. Any updates on this? Is this in any way connected with the 300 million customers? Have you started drafting your apology to us yet?

4083. Comment by just visiting | March 30th, 2012

      All ull retire a millionaire. No time to think about it just do it. oving and ythis is just negative. Youll have cream on your face when you see the figures rolling in now. It’s a whole new ball game I tell you and its just getting bigger. Im confident that yes there will be many millions in the customer profiling forcasts. That’s a global online business and you cant seem to understand any of it. The current statistics are old now. That all was months ago and the game plan has changed with direct accounting and language translator interface. These are concepts in the Dubli model but you probably just scratch your head. You cant understand what this ebusiness thing is all about. YOU SELL TO THE WORLD. Can you see it? So a 1% rise becomes millions. Im not kidding. The figures are exploding. Chinese and Indians are hopping aboard and bringing impetus to the great global model. Its not too late gso to my site and dial me.

4084. Comment by Mich1949 | April 1st, 2012

      Thanks Gene McNeally. Douglas, Nebraska must have a lot of hot air circling around it with Gene living there. What is the McNeally clan really like? What about a reality show based on Gene’s extended family? “Keeping Down with the McNeallys” would be a great title.

4085. Comment by Eugene | April 2nd, 2012

      I found an interesting preserved relic of the early days of Dubli in Australia and New Zealand here: http://duboz.remektek.info/

      It doesn’t have a specific date, but based on the items contained within it, I imagine that the site dates from mid-2009, in advance of the official Australia/New Zealand launch in late 2009.

      It’s an interesting read – particularly the script for selling Dubli to your friends (under Resources – Downloads – What to say AU). Most of the links from the page are dead, but it’s still an interesting look into the wonderful world of Dubli.

4086. Comment by Nick | April 2nd, 2012

      I’ve been following this forum for years now. Very enjoyable. Some real interesting characters here and I love them all. Gene McNeally (Health101/justme/just visiting/rough framing carpenter/ former MP/my name is required by who/me again/ etc. etc. (absolutely delusional), Charlie (anger management101 – possibly drug-related), beavis (superiority complex based on nothing), Shaun “due diligence” Premo (obsessive), Kees (painfully OCD – probably institutionalized), Jason Switzer (total idiot), Road Warrior (worried about 25 cents), etc. Clowns all of them.

      I just want to say that my favourite is Gene McNeally – yes, I’ve googled him and followed his “career” with interest. How does he really think this modern day equivalent of the Titanic is going to have 300 million customers in three months’ time. Where does his unshakeable belief in Dubli come from? Does he really believe everything anyone tells him? My experience with the internet tells me that people almost always lie to you. Why is Gene so different? I really want to go to Douglas, Nebraska and meet him. Sit down with some ice tea and find out what makes him tick. He’s just downright weird. I think a documentary about his life would be interesting. No one else on the planet thinks like him. Not after Bernie Madoff. Not after corporate greed being so exposed. Not after the GFC. Not after the Nigerian scams. Gene is certainly a rare human being. I take my hat off to him.

4087. Comment by Texarse | April 3rd, 2012

      Oi, Nick.

      What am I? Chopped liver?

4088. Comment by beavis | April 3rd, 2012

      Texarse,

      It took years for Little Nicky to compose his snarky little post. Check your own posts for word length and complex sentences; those tend to confuse the boy and cause you to be overlooked.

      And I’d like to thank Little Nicky for his mention of my “superiority complex based on nothing”. Simply being acknowledged in this future Robert Frost’s writings is a thrill I cannot express; it’s right up there with being mentioned by Gene McNeally (with the exception that it a bit less original). The key thing is that the intellect is there right on par with Gene’s. I always worried that Gene would one day abandon us. It’s comforting to know that he has a prodigy.

4089. Comment by Ben Nevis | April 4th, 2012

      OMG Beavis, are you paranoid or what? Can’t you take any criticism? I think what Nick sad is what we all think, Your pathetic attempts at sarcasm (eg Robert Frost) sound juvenile. grow up will you? We all write here with none of us pretending it’s great literature. Why don’t you know something so basic? I’ll repeat Nick: Beavis you have a superiority complex based on norhing. Get used to it and move on.

4090. Comment by Nick | April 4th, 2012

      Yes Ben, I was surprosed by Beavis’ reaction. It does sound paranoid like people I’ve met who’ve smoked marijuana over a period of years. Also, I never claimed to be Robert Frost or any other literary giant. Then Beavis descended into some childish “I’m smarter than you” taunt. OK Beavis if you need the affirmation you are so much smarter than everyone on the planet. I hope you feel better.

4091. Comment by Nick | April 4th, 2012

      Okay Texarse. You rate a mention with your fake sincerity. Lots of posts with an average spelling mistake rate of only one per post. Well done. B plus.

4092. Comment by just visiting again | April 4th, 2012

      You guys are sure messed up. I come here now and then and I find the same old same old stuff again. In the past it was difficult to make much money with Dubli but now its like wildfire and breakingout all over. The graphs Ive seen just show so much upward potential. Amazing. It’s a shopping business model with fun in it and thats all that counts for most folks. Why not just do all your shopping with Dubli? You cant give an intelligent answer to that but people are asking themselves that same question and getting on board. Millions in the month of March. This is the new era of Dubli the success phase and it cant be stopped. Ive been in since 2006 and Im getting the big payoff soon. You guys missed your chance in three months Ill let you know exact figures but I know I dont have that many fingers! LOL LOL. Just kidding but I ll let you kne for sure then you can attack all you want with negativity. My only problem will be all that tax !!1 LOL. Loyalty is being rewarded now bigtime. Beavis still causing trouble I see LOL. Gotta go a customer on the phone (again!).

4093. Comment by jerseys italia | April 5th, 2012

      I know this if off topic but I’m looking into starting my own weblog and was curious what all is needed to get set up? I’m assuming having a blog like yours would cost a pretty penny? I’m not very internet smart so I’m not 100% sure. Any recommendations or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

4094. Comment by beavis | April 5th, 2012

      It’s not a complex if you actually are superior. I rest my case, bitchboy.

4095. Comment by Nick | April 5th, 2012

      That’s all you got? This is all just so silly. Beavis, you’re a classic.

4096. Comment by beavis | April 6th, 2012

      An what kind of flowery feces would you like me to hurl at you, Little Nicky?

4097. Comment by Nick | April 6th, 2012

      Let’s all just love each other and live in peace and harrmony.

4098. Comment by beavis | April 7th, 2012

      and I fart in your general direction.

4099. Comment by Texarse | April 7th, 2012

      Come on people, this sudden rash of personal abuse is getting in the way of pointing out the flaws in Dubli…

      From post 4092.

      “The graphs Ive seen just show so much upward potential.”

      All graphs have an upward potential. Just a shame that so many don’t ever achieve it. Those dotted lines they draw in a curve going up in the future is just speculation.

      “Why not just do all your shopping with Dubli?”

      Because I’m not a fool?

      “This is the new era of Dubli the success phase and it cant be stopped.”

      This ‘new era’ wouldn’t be exactly the same as the previous eras would it? You know, the ones where Dubli crashed and burned in China? In Australia? In that little place called ‘the rest of the world’?

      “I dont have that many fingers!”

      I only need one, and I’m waving them at Dubli right now!

      “Gotta go a customer on the phone (again!).”

      I can well imagine that conversation…

      “What have you gotten me in to? No one wants to buy dubli credits that cost 80 cents that reduce a price by 25 cents! I can’t even give them away like you suggested! I want my money back! Don’t give me the run around, just refund my money!”

      See? This is much more fun than abusing people!

4100. Comment by Eugene | April 8th, 2012

      “Come on people, this sudden rash of personal abuse is getting in the way of pointing out the flaws in Dubli…”

      …I suspect that’s entirely intentional. Distract people from the real issue.

      Another week closer to July, and no more sign of Dubli becoming “the main player in retail”. Given the amount of lead time available, I’m expecting the apology to end all apologies.

4101. Comment by beavis | April 8th, 2012

      “Come on people, this sudden rash of personal abuse is getting in the way of pointing out the flaws in Dubli…”

      It kills time while we wait for the next Medianet (Dubli’s parent corp.)flaccid quarterly report. We can’t always rely on Gene; now we have his genetically identical clone, Little Nicky*

      *Definition
      “Little Nicky” – refers to a technique in a monkey feces hurling fight where “Monkey A” (the hurler), scrapes his posterior region in mid-defecation so as to throw a “fresh one” at his opponent, “Monkey B” (the recipient).

4102. Comment by beavis | April 8th, 2012

      Note: “Little Nicky’s” rarely work out due to the “adhesion factor”.

4103. Comment by Nick | April 8th, 2012

      I just think we need more rainbows and unicorns. Peace and love everyone. Just chill. I love sand between my toes. It feels nice.

4104. Comment by Maurice K. Field (B.A.) | April 8th, 2012

      I have just joined Dubli. I find this forum narrow and non-factual. The information I’ve received direct from the Dubli kingpins shows Dubli is really set to take off by mid-year. Sorry to burst your collective bubbles. Do what I did and take control of your finances and help others. What’s wrong with that?

4105. Comment by beavis | April 8th, 2012

      Maurice K. Field (B.A.),

      Let me guess; Dubli is going to have another “launch” (yawn). . .

4106. Comment by Maurice K. Field (B.A.) | April 8th, 2012

      Doesn’t need one hotdog. This is full steam ahead and taking no prisoners. People need to put u or shut up. Winning is a state of mind and I’ve come to the big game ready to play. That’s the difference between you and I.

4107. Comment by Texarse | April 9th, 2012

      I was watching TV as I am wont to do, and saw an advertisement (which made me which I could use AdBlock on my TV, but, I digress).

      It was for a website, which was similar to http://www.kwibids.com (I’m not putting the actual URL, they don’t deserve the traffic). The high-energy, fast-talking attractive female talking-body spun a yarn about how there was a ‘fun’ and ‘easy’ way to ‘bid’ for items (iPads, laptops and so on). Freezing and reading the small print led me to believe that a) you had to buy a $60 ‘bid package’ to allow you to bid on the items you wanted and b) you paid $.60 to lower the price by $.01.

      That’s right, the exact same model that dubli [ab|mis]use and it has glitzy, glossy TV adverts to get suckers^h^h^h people involved AND you don’t have to join up and be a BA (and try to recoup your money by recruiting others). Plus, more money goes to the company than with dubli per bid!

      Pure genius!

      I guess if you’re not paying BAs their paltry sum for recruits, then, you don’t need ($.80 – $.25) per bid, this whole other company gets to keep every single cent of the $.59 that doesn’t go towards lowering the price.

      Oh.

      By the way. Maurice sounds more like “I’ve come to the big game, ready to spout empty MLM slogans that kingpins yelled at me during a webinar trying to convince myself that I’ve not been ripped off.”

      If he’d read the thousands of posts here already, he’d've seen that dubli has been ready to take off EVERY mid year for the last couple of years.

      Due diligence and skepticism. That’s the difference between he and I.

4108. Comment by Maurice K. Field (B.A.) | April 10th, 2012

      I can’t even understand your English. None of it makes any sense at all.

4109. Comment by beavis | April 10th, 2012

      Maurice K. Field (B.A.),

      He said you were an idiot. . . and then threw in some facts to back it up.

4110. Comment by Maurice K. Field (B.A.) | April 11th, 2012

      We don’t insult in my business. I guess we know we are successes just about to happen. Like a flower about to bud if you want to be otherwise poetical about it all. Dubli is a simple but brilliant concept. You even make money while you sleep and that’s got to be good for anyones sleep! This time I know this concept is going to mushroom and create wealth for everyone in my family. I cant wait to be part of the community projects Dubli is planning. Dubli Urban Gardens (DUG) is going to make this country green finally. Go Dubli ! More power to you !

4111. Comment by Jay | April 12th, 2012

      OK Maurice – please tell us how you are going to make money with dubli.

      Are you going to be selling something? A product or service maybe?

4112. Comment by only me again! | April 13th, 2012

      Well done Mr. Field. I like the way you talk. These guys know nothing about global ebusiness. I think your education level will beavis think again about saying dubli people have no education. So many point beavis and the other cowboys make are just made of sand and mean nothing. Tried to grow anything in sand? LOL LOL You guys just dont get it. Im seeing huge interest just about to be converted to sales. These credits are flying out of here. By July you will be so embarrassed. all of oyu then you might take this nonsesnse site down and face charges of misinformation. You make Wikkileaks look honest. Im fed up trying to explain it to you. Mr. Field htese chumps just want to ride a desk there whole lives. LOL LOL. Ive got orders to send through.

4113. Comment by beavis | April 13th, 2012

      “We don’t insult in my business.” Maurice K. Field (B.A.)

      Well, we do in my business (Information Technology”). We are, admittedly, a snarky bunch with low tolerance for stupidity. Needless to say, Dublidiots are at the bottom of the intellectual food chain and we are just, shall we say, not very forgiving of you. Why? because your idiotic actions actually cause financial harm to other naive individuals. That makes you fair game. We can, with clear conscience, slam your little peckers in a vice and twist to our hearts content knowing that we have actually contributed positively to society. A little sadistic? Yeah, but you greedy twits asked for it, didn’t you? when is Dubli going to award that convertible Bentley they promoted in 2010? How is DubliLand in the Cayman Islands coming along? Why does your company bleed red ink quarter after quarter after quarter? Bunch of wankers. . .

4114. Comment by only me again! | April 13th, 2012

      Strong language but your points as usual dont make sense. The company is creating black ink. Just look at the graphs! You standing on your head to read the Dubli gra[ghs or something? You don’t understand a global business. You arent even asking the right questions. you should just ask Where can I sign up and get a really lot of credits? LOL LOL. You just dont get it.

4115. Comment by Texarse | April 14th, 2012

      “The company is creating black ink.”

      You know what else creates black ink? An octopus. And, do you know why they do it? To confuse their enemies and allow their escape from creditors. Er… I meant predators.

4116. Comment by only me again! | April 15th, 2012

      Dubli is bigger then ever and growing! You guys really take the cake. You couldnt stop Dubli with your lies. And you keep on going with your prattle. Its just childish. Move over this is e business. You sell to millions on a global platform with the best brands at the cheapest prices on the net. Its a winning formula and millionaires are bein g created every day. These are FACTS. Now try to tear that down ! You cant because you have nothing to say . this is a positive business model that feeds on positivity and spreads like wiodfire. This year is the big one mark my words.

4117. Comment by Darnell Tutin | April 15th, 2012

      What ever happened to Simon Dale? What happened to all the Dubli BAs that used to come here? Gen’s still here but only just. He has to apologize soon. How can he sleeep knowing he actually got people involved in Dubli. What about other Dubli BAs? Don’t you think they should apologize to their “victims”? They got people involved by telling them it was “the perfect business model”. If I was in someone’s downline I’d plan the perfect murder. Dublidiots have no right to live. Murderers and Dublidiots are thev same to me.

4118. Comment by Gene McNeally | April 15th, 2012

      Well, boys and girls I don’t do Dubli anymore as a BA, I’ve already told you that and you did do a job on it for everyone that tried to make a go of it so be proud. So what do you guys do for a living? I apologize for nothing I still think it’s an honest business. For you hay fever suffers try some Chaga. http://www.mychaga.com/wonder

4119. Comment by Darnell Tutin | April 16th, 2012

      Hay Fever? You said it would cure cancer!!!! Do you even know what the truth is ???

4120. Comment by beavis | April 16th, 2012

      Shut up Gene.

4121. Comment by Gene McNeally | April 16th, 2012

      You shut up beave. LOL LOL

4122. Comment by beavis | April 16th, 2012

      You shut up X 2

4123. Comment by Gene McNeally | April 16th, 2012

      Anyways you all thought you had me licked. Doesnt work that way. Dubli is still going on and on and I’m a big part of the Asia Pacific Focus group. big things are happening and yes Gene McNeally I still sell chaga and not just for hay fever. It is a life saver go to my sites and check it out.

4124. Comment by Nick | April 16th, 2012

      Beavis stop telling Gene to shut up or I’ll make you stop.

4125. Comment by Whip | April 16th, 2012

      “Its a winning formula and millionaires are bein g created every day. These are FACTS”

      No, there isn’t and they’re not.
      Just more lies to try and justify the scam.

4126. Comment by Gene McNeally | April 16th, 2012

      #2 Darnell you don’t even know what you’re talking about. Don’t slur your words, cure cancer? Now when did I say that? Although it helps to boost the immune system that’s for sure. Before you dance your little pinkies on the keys here just read the information on the site or just watch the videos. That’s right I don’t do the Dub anymore. Couldn’t make any money at it with you guys blowing the whistle. What a joke. Beav what’s up? This is only my second post here this year so go figure brain drains.

4127. Comment by Nick | April 16th, 2012

      I’m suspicious. The real Gene was confused but kind. If you’re really Gene the richest man in Nebraska, why would the stuff here cause the demise of Dubli? Wouldn’t there be a flaw in the basic business? Could this forum bring down Microsoft or Coke? Why would that be? Don’t you think it’s Dubli that’s flawed? This site just provides alternative information. Can you just admit that the Dubli business model isn’t so wonderful?

      Anyway, why so aggressive? You sound like Charlie

4128. Comment by just a name | April 16th, 2012

      You guys are living in a fantasy now trying to discredit me. Everyone knows I am Dubli all the way. I’ve still got a few credits to give away. Things are happening and the time is now. Don’t believe 90% of this site its all beave.

4129. Comment by Texarse | April 17th, 2012

      Beave, why do you do this? What keeps you going? What’s your advice for a young punk who wants to be you? Do you work out? What do you eat? Where do you eat? I want your restaurant bookings, your phrases, all of it. I want this so badly. Help a fella out. see I can do this too. LOL LOL

4130. Comment by Texarse | April 17th, 2012

      Errr… That poorly written comment was not from me.

      There’s no incipient bromance between me and Beavis.

      I might be a fun guy, but, I wouldn’t shill for fungus. (See what I did there?)

4131. Comment by beavis | April 18th, 2012

      This is getting me down. I realize that MLMs are just what the world needs now. World, stop building big buildings and kill the environment. Just sell online backed by agreat MLM like Dubli. I’ve turned you see. Chaga and Dubli tick all the boxes for me. I love that I’m generating income 24/7 and making money off people who click because they are idiots. Get into chaga and Dubli. Both will cure dandruff.

4132. Comment by Fast Cars | April 25th, 2012

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4133. Comment by beavis | April 25th, 2012

      Just got back from vacation; glad to see our troll/impersonator posted on my behalf while I was gone. Thank you, sir, now please go stick a fork in your eye and place the other end in to a power socket (pictures, please).

4134. Comment by just any name | April 26th, 2012

      Beavis no one cares anymore. Your fake forum posts are over and Dubli keeps on building. Your just one scamapedia junkie and all this fake post nonsense is just a drug to you. But it gets your no where expect a spiral down. This is a failure as a forum blog andall you know it. But you just had to try it and everything would be good for all.

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4136. Comment by Texarse | April 28th, 2012

      There’s some weird stuff being posted of late; what’s going on?

4137. Comment by just any name | April 28th, 2012

      All the hand ringing is hilarious. LOL LOL You gotta love beave he never sleeps in opposing a great company and you gotta ask why? It makes no sense. Look at the real figures for Dubli at the company website. They should know shouldn’t they? Nope no apology yet beave, LOL LOL.

4138. Comment by MLM Hatred Club | April 28th, 2012

      Over many years I’ve heard some pretty wild reasons why MLMs should even exist at all. Let’s face it if Xango, Mannatech, chaga, or any of thousands of crazy “supplements” they would be in stores. Think about it. When someone develops a product they usually get it distributed to stores so they can sell to as many people as possible. That way the developer/inventor/creator, whatever can maximise profit. It makes sense.

      Yet there are still MLMs. Supposedly the creator of Xango, chaga etc, suspiciously don’t want to make a lot of profit. They want spread their profits in a hit or miss recruitment scheme to thousands os sellers called BAs or whatever. Supposedlt these people are to go forth and ruin family events, divide church congregation, complicate every social relationship by trying to rope in new customers.

      Yhe whole process stinks. If any friend or family member tries to get you involved with any MLM they are not your friend, they are your enemy. They care only for their own greed not your social and financial well-being. They are basically selling false dreams, false promises and business empires built on air.

      I can’t believe any MLM is still going in 2012. Mary Kay? Buy cosmetics online! Amway? Plastic is really cheap or haven’t the Amway executives heard? Also, other Amway products are much cheaper elsewhere. Mannatech? Buy those supplements online for a fraction of the cost! Noni Juice? Again buy online save money and don’t lose your friends! Xango? Buy online for a tenth of the cost. And on it goes.

      Dubli? Just buy what you want at stores and online. Buy direct from stores or use ebay. No one wants the complicated checking prices nonsense, gold levels, webinars, extreme shipping fees, Vice President Bentley giveaways, Rolex giveaways of promises of land in “Dubliland”. To be part of this you have to bother everyone you know with this crazy scheme. People just want simplicity when they shop. Dubli is just an absolute nightmare of convolution. It’s stupid. No normal person would waste their time with it.

4139. Comment by MLM Hatred Club | April 28th, 2012

      Another factor i forgot was to mention that people are too busy to listen to any crummy Dubli sales pitch. They just want to go in shops or go online and buy what they want. Not listen to some complex scheme that literally makes no sense. The year is 2012 and people are too busy to be bothered by greedy BAs.

4140. Comment by beavis | April 29th, 2012

      MLM Hatred Club,

      Well put.

      “just any name” (aka “Gene”),

      Clicked on your link but the World Of Trust Firefox plugin I use to prevent me from visiting shoddy sites blocked my access

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4144. Comment by Arnold Best | May 1st, 2012

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4145. Comment by beavis | May 3rd, 2012

      I overlooked a Medianet announcement dated April 16th, 2012 stating that the management was going to seek to list the company on the NASDAQ. What a load of crap! The company’s financials suck so bad that they don’t even remotely begin to qualify to be listed. You either have to have a really big company or be making money (swing and a miss on both counts for Dubli) to make the NASDAQ. I guess anybody can apply, though. Maybe if they all pull up in their Bentley convertibles they can sway the committee. . . oh, wait, no one won the Bentleys and the only Bentley car Dubli had was a day rental for one of their meetings (snicker).

4146. Comment by DubLi is a Great Way | May 3rd, 2012

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4147. Comment by DubLi is a Great Way | May 3rd, 2012

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4149. Comment by beavis | May 3rd, 2012

      “DubLi is a Great Way”,

      Medianet (Dubli’s parent corp.) is currently traded OTCBB and does post it’s financials. If you would bother to read the financials that Medianet files you will realize that they have been losing money. They fail the tests for both market capitalization and profit history to join NASDAQ. So, why do they push out a press release stating that they are going to apply when it so obvious they can’t qualify? Because talk is cheap. It is just like the time they rented a Bentley to promote the giving away of one to their top producers back in 2010. Guess what didn’t happen. And it was probably a good thing as Dubli was scrounging for cash with only approximately million dollars liquid. At $225,000 a whack they really couldn’t afford too many Bentley convertibles. Yet, they promoted it anyway. Here is my bet: Dubli will get on to the NASDAQ when you win a building lot in the Cayman Islands from them.

4150. Comment by Big Ol' Huggy Bear (not gay) | May 4th, 2012

      DSomebody tried to get me into Dubli the other night. In the end he was crying, such was his tale of woe about his time with Dubli. I’m glad to hear about the Dubli explosion and all. He could really use the money after losing so much in Dubli. But soon he will be okay I guess if Gene isn’t a lying fella. If things go South and this big global explosion of Dubli doesn’t work out then I reckon all the Dubli people need to pay the poor losers they got involved in Dubli. Because they said a lot of things that haven’t worked out. All that talk about “sure fire” “it can’t lose” “win win for everybody” “cash stream” “residual income” etc.

      But, what am I saying? Dubli can’t fail. Gene help me out here. It made you a rich man. Tell ‘em, Gene.

4151. Comment by Big Ol' Huggy Bear (not gay) | May 5th, 2012

      Gene? Gene McNeally of Douglas Nebraska,help me out with what made you so rich and famous in Dubli circles. I heard you went to the top of the tree and now drive a Bentley. Can anyone in Douglas confirm this?

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4153. Comment by Gunther Haas | May 6th, 2012

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4155. Comment by kees | May 11th, 2012

      MediaNet Group Technologies Announces Results for the Second Quarter of 2012

      Building Our DubLi Brand With Unprecedented Growth

      http://finance.yahoo.com/news/medianet-group-technologies-announces-results-100000390.html

      “Net loss for second quarter was $2.9 million”

      “Net loss for the first half of fiscal 2012 was $5.9 million”

4156. Comment by Judy | May 13th, 2012

      No one wants to be annoyed by direct marketing morons. This is the 21st century for goodness sake. I feel direct marketing exists just to prey on vulnerable people. Idiots like Gene. Gene McNeally of Douglas Nebraska, is a victim. He was so arrogant a few years ago talking Dubli up to everyone. What happened to him and all the other little fish who got caught in Michael Hansen’s evil net?

4157. Comment by beavis | May 14th, 2012

      Here’s my prediction:

      “Dubli will be out of cash by the 4th quarter of 2012 unless they see a capital infusion.”

      The only reason I give them this long is they did get the 2+ million released from their former credit card processor (scumbags in their own right, IMHO). Come on, Michael Hansen; dump some more cash of yours into the black hole called “Dubli”. When it is all tallied up I’m hoping you will be the Biggest Loser

4158. Comment by way off base | May 15th, 2012

      you boys are laughable! LOL LOL. Dubli is really taking off. And youll all miss out. But this is life just as its served up. Keep putting out the scamapedia that no one really finds.

4159. Comment by Eugene | May 15th, 2012

      I have to admit that the current Medianet quarterly report shows a kind of business acumen that I’ve never seen before.

      I’ve never seen any organization manage to increase its revenues by 600% over the year before, while simultaneously doubling the cost of said revenue and dropping the gross profit about 90% while they’re at it. (based on the results for the 3 months ending March 31, 2012).

      It takes a rare kind of business genius to sell $29,361,662.00 worth of whatever it is they sell, at a cost of $29,133,972.00 (before expenses).

      It’s also interesting to see that despite the fact that “Dubli is really taking off”, the number of credits used and broken in the first quarter of 2012 was 12% below the amount in the first quarter of 2011.

      What can I say? Pure genius.

4160. Comment by way off base | May 16th, 2012

      knock it off with your dammable insults. Ive had you beavis in the neck lay off or Ill take you down. Your the worst excuse for a human Ive seen and that isnt a silly boast, This time I mean it, So beavis just go away and still all the silly rants.

4161. Comment by Eugene | May 16th, 2012

      “Damnable insults”? Was that aimed at me?

4162. Comment by Butch Phillips | May 16th, 2012

      But I thought 2012 was the year of the “big explosion”? Everything “clicks before July 4”? Gene, what’s the real story? You sound like you’re under pressure. Is it all going swimmingly? Anymore boasting you want to do? This is the forum for it. We want a good laugh. We only hope the Dubli CEO gets what he deserves. See that could be taken several ways. Michael is “clever”. He knows that everyone wants to get rich without doing anything. And here it is packaged and marketed like it’s brilliance. To start an MLM it looks like you get some serious guys in suits who borrow heavily from Charlie Sheen’s book of quotes. To ordinary people they sound stupid. To the wide-eyed BA they sound like music from heaven. Then they hide their base greed by claiming to be in it “to help others”. The way Dubli portrays itself is an insult to every true charity.

4163. Comment by beavis | May 17th, 2012

      In defense of Dubli the Titanic did sink faster

4164. Comment by way off base | May 18th, 2012

      You guys don’t know what youj’re talking about. Everything is happening know and launches are happening. Eastern Europeis opening up and nort west Africa. Mali looks like a big deal this is all on top of all the other countries exploding.

4165. Comment by Texarse | May 19th, 2012

      To quote Beavis… LAAAAAAAUUUUUUUNNNNNNCCCCHHHH!

      Eastern Europe? North West Africa? Wow! These are the up-and-coming, powerhouse economies of the 21st century! Look to the future! Ignore the past!

      Like… What happened to the launches in China? Australia? How are those going? Surely the results there would give you the perfect indicator of the results of future launches.

4166. Comment by beavis | May 20th, 2012

      Texarse,

      This is so cool! Dubli has launched in Europe, the U.S. and Australia (and one failed launch in China). They are losing close to a million U.S. dollars per month with approx. five million in the bank (probably less). The next “launch” will be a small boat with the remainder of the Dubli bank account headed for the nearest country without an extradition agreement with the U.S. And the countdown begins. . .

4167. Comment by way off base | May 21st, 2012

      you crazy . how come some many millionaires have been created and they are living the highlife and the explosion isn’t finished. The time is now so get on board. Newsflash everybody beave doesn’t want you to be rich . that’s the truth of it? LOL LOL But you cant stop this because itsagreat idea. You bid and prices go down like magic and millions are flocking to the shopping portal. They hsvent found snyhting here to upset themas they pursue their future.

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