<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: 6 Elements of fraud in MLM &#8220;businesses&#8221;</title>
	<atom:link href="http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/2009/02/10/elements-of-fraud-in-mlm-businesses/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/2009/02/10/elements-of-fraud-in-mlm-businesses/</link>
	<description>Atomizing the truth (An academic journal).</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 02:12:00 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Luigi Conney</title>
		<link>http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/2009/02/10/elements-of-fraud-in-mlm-businesses/comment-page-1/#comment-398838</link>
		<dc:creator>Luigi Conney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 03:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/?p=315#comment-398838</guid>
		<description>I&#039;ve been exploring for a little for any high quality articles or weblog posts on this kind of area . Explloring in Yahoo I at last stummbled upon this website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been exploring for a little for any high quality articles or weblog posts on this kind of area . Explloring in Yahoo I at last stummbled upon this website.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mark Sierzenga</title>
		<link>http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/2009/02/10/elements-of-fraud-in-mlm-businesses/comment-page-1/#comment-354581</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Sierzenga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 11:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/?p=315#comment-354581</guid>
		<description>Hello; great publish for me. Your publish has very good quality. I need to has very good posts like yours at my website. How don&#039;t you arrive around these posts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello; great publish for me. Your publish has very good quality. I need to has very good posts like yours at my website. How don&#8217;t you arrive around these posts?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Augustine Buonassisi</title>
		<link>http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/2009/02/10/elements-of-fraud-in-mlm-businesses/comment-page-1/#comment-294560</link>
		<dc:creator>Augustine Buonassisi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 12:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/?p=315#comment-294560</guid>
		<description>Woah! I&#039;m really loving the template/theme of this blog. It&#039;s simple, yet effective. A lot of times it&#039;s very hard to get that &quot;perfect balance&quot; between usability and visual appearance. I must say you have done a fantastic job with this. In addition, the blog loads very quick for me on Safari. Excellent Blog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woah! I&#8217;m really loving the template/theme of this blog. It&#8217;s simple, yet effective. A lot of times it&#8217;s very hard to get that &#8220;perfect balance&#8221; between usability and visual appearance. I must say you have done a fantastic job with this. In addition, the blog loads very quick for me on Safari. Excellent Blog!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Insidious</title>
		<link>http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/2009/02/10/elements-of-fraud-in-mlm-businesses/comment-page-1/#comment-91035</link>
		<dc:creator>Insidious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/?p=315#comment-91035</guid>
		<description>No, Peter. I&#039;m just saying you need to upgrade your reading and comprehension skills. It seems you are more interested in building straw men arguments than in accepting that what I wrote does not imply any conspiracy.

Is WoW a scam? Probably not, since they are not misrepresenting their product, as far as I know.

&quot;any cell phone company is misrepresenting, why not write about that, that is something affecting everyday people?&quot;

Probably, it&#039;s called false advertising, and most businesses resort to misrepresentation to some degree; Cell phone companies charging more than they are supposed to is common knowledge, so it&#039;s not all that interesting of a topic. Real conspiracies are covered elsewhere. For example, here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accounting_scandals

There&#039;s no value in telling you what you already know, so I prefer to present fresh content. Additionally, as you noted, cell-phone companies can be fraudulent, and some of the criticism in this article applies to fraudulent cell-phone companies.

&quot;And yes you can say but people who want to sign up on GroobLi.com are also everyday people, I don’t think I agree, it’s obvious it has a gambling aspect and I think this attracts particular people.&quot; Well, then, it looks like we agree.

&quot;I stumbled upon this web site doing research on reverse auctioning for a business intelligence firm&quot;

I don&#039;t think I would hire you in the field of business intelligence, since you have no idea what reverse auctioning is, even after you posted a source with that very information.

&quot;I do think this site is taking this witch-hunt a little too far from a reality point of view&quot;. Please explain your analogy, since what you mean is not obvious. Witch-hunting is the &quot;religious&quot; practice of killing people because they don&#039;t fit-in with your religion, or because they have &quot;special evil powers&quot;. 

I don&#039;t think these businesses have magical powers, nor do I think there is any conspiracy.

&quot;also, who the hell is Ron Paul?&quot;

He is a politician with libertarian leanings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Peter. I&#8217;m just saying you need to upgrade your reading and comprehension skills. It seems you are more interested in building straw men arguments than in accepting that what I wrote does not imply any conspiracy.</p>
<p>Is WoW a scam? Probably not, since they are not misrepresenting their product, as far as I know.</p>
<p>&#8220;any cell phone company is misrepresenting, why not write about that, that is something affecting everyday people?&#8221;</p>
<p>Probably, it&#8217;s called false advertising, and most businesses resort to misrepresentation to some degree; Cell phone companies charging more than they are supposed to is common knowledge, so it&#8217;s not all that interesting of a topic. Real conspiracies are covered elsewhere. For example, here: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accounting_scandals" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accounting_scandals</a></p>
<p>There&#8217;s no value in telling you what you already know, so I prefer to present fresh content. Additionally, as you noted, cell-phone companies can be fraudulent, and some of the criticism in this article applies to fraudulent cell-phone companies.</p>
<p>&#8220;And yes you can say but people who want to sign up on GroobLi.com are also everyday people, I don’t think I agree, it’s obvious it has a gambling aspect and I think this attracts particular people.&#8221; Well, then, it looks like we agree.</p>
<p>&#8220;I stumbled upon this web site doing research on reverse auctioning for a business intelligence firm&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I would hire you in the field of business intelligence, since you have no idea what reverse auctioning is, even after you posted a source with that very information.</p>
<p>&#8220;I do think this site is taking this witch-hunt a little too far from a reality point of view&#8221;. Please explain your analogy, since what you mean is not obvious. Witch-hunting is the &#8220;religious&#8221; practice of killing people because they don&#8217;t fit-in with your religion, or because they have &#8220;special evil powers&#8221;. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think these businesses have magical powers, nor do I think there is any conspiracy.</p>
<p>&#8220;also, who the hell is Ron Paul?&#8221;</p>
<p>He is a politician with libertarian leanings.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Peter Faber</title>
		<link>http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/2009/02/10/elements-of-fraud-in-mlm-businesses/comment-page-1/#comment-82329</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Faber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/?p=315#comment-82329</guid>
		<description>@Insidious

Hahahaha, you&#039;re talking like one of those conspiracy theorists. So WoW is also a scam then? Any cell phone company is misrepresenting, why not write about that, that is something affecting everyday people? And yes you can say but people who want to sign up on GroobLi.com are also everyday people, I don&#039;t think I agree, it&#039;s obvious it has a gambling aspect and I think this attracts particular people.

I stumbled upon this web site doing research on reverse auctioning for a business intelligence firm, even though I won&#039;t ever be joining, I do think this site is taking this witch-hunt a little too far from a reality point of view, also who the hell is Ron Paul?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Insidious</p>
<p>Hahahaha, you&#8217;re talking like one of those conspiracy theorists. So WoW is also a scam then? Any cell phone company is misrepresenting, why not write about that, that is something affecting everyday people? And yes you can say but people who want to sign up on GroobLi.com are also everyday people, I don&#8217;t think I agree, it&#8217;s obvious it has a gambling aspect and I think this attracts particular people.</p>
<p>I stumbled upon this web site doing research on reverse auctioning for a business intelligence firm, even though I won&#8217;t ever be joining, I do think this site is taking this witch-hunt a little too far from a reality point of view, also who the hell is Ron Paul?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Insidious</title>
		<link>http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/2009/02/10/elements-of-fraud-in-mlm-businesses/comment-page-1/#comment-81040</link>
		<dc:creator>Insidious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/?p=315#comment-81040</guid>
		<description>Peter, Peter... fictitious currency is only one of the six elements of fraud listed in the article.

Is your prepaid phone company also misrepresenting its products? Do they send you motivational materials? Do they have an unnecessarily complicated business model?

If so, they may be scamming you. If not, I&#039;m afraid you misread the article.

Oooh... Reverse auctions are popular? Maybe you should read your own link because GroobLi&#039;s &quot;reverse auctions&quot; are not real reverse auctions. You are a victim of their misrepresentation.

By the way, minutes and watts are standard units of measure recognized around the world. I can only assume that they recognize these in South Africa, unlike GroobLi credits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, Peter&#8230; fictitious currency is only one of the six elements of fraud listed in the article.</p>
<p>Is your prepaid phone company also misrepresenting its products? Do they send you motivational materials? Do they have an unnecessarily complicated business model?</p>
<p>If so, they may be scamming you. If not, I&#8217;m afraid you misread the article.</p>
<p>Oooh&#8230; Reverse auctions are popular? Maybe you should read your own link because GroobLi&#8217;s &#8220;reverse auctions&#8221; are not real reverse auctions. You are a victim of their misrepresentation.</p>
<p>By the way, minutes and watts are standard units of measure recognized around the world. I can only assume that they recognize these in South Africa, unlike GroobLi credits.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Peter Faber</title>
		<link>http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/2009/02/10/elements-of-fraud-in-mlm-businesses/comment-page-1/#comment-80982</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Faber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/?p=315#comment-80982</guid>
		<description>You must be living in a cave for years, and a very disgruntled ex customer, to put so much time into this.

If I have a pre paid phone here in South Africa I buy credits, same goes for my electricity, does that mean they too deal in fictitious currencies? A very popular game, maybe you have heard of it, called World of Warcraft uses Gold as a currency, it&#039;s not real gold of course, but are they also scam artists?

Here in the real world reverse auctions is a very popular buzz word on the internet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_auction. And GroobLi is not the only company doing it; http://www.google.co.za/search?rlz=1C1GGLS_en-GBDE319DE319&amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=reverse+auction.

Also becoming a member of a web site through invitation is not an original concept: http://www.internations.org/.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must be living in a cave for years, and a very disgruntled ex customer, to put so much time into this.</p>
<p>If I have a pre paid phone here in South Africa I buy credits, same goes for my electricity, does that mean they too deal in fictitious currencies? A very popular game, maybe you have heard of it, called World of Warcraft uses Gold as a currency, it&#8217;s not real gold of course, but are they also scam artists?</p>
<p>Here in the real world reverse auctions is a very popular buzz word on the internet: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_auction" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_auction</a>. And GroobLi is not the only company doing it; <a href="http://www.google.co.za/search?rlz=1C1GGLS_en-GBDE319DE319&amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=reverse+auction" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.co.za/search?rlz=1C1GGLS_en-GBDE319DE319&amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=reverse+auction</a>.</p>
<p>Also becoming a member of a web site through invitation is not an original concept: <a href="http://www.internations.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.internations.org/</a>.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: eaglescout</title>
		<link>http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/2009/02/10/elements-of-fraud-in-mlm-businesses/comment-page-1/#comment-80587</link>
		<dc:creator>eaglescout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/?p=315#comment-80587</guid>
		<description>Hi Brian,

Look up &quot;straw man&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brian,</p>
<p>Look up &#8220;straw man&#8221;.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/2009/02/10/elements-of-fraud-in-mlm-businesses/comment-page-1/#comment-80293</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 01:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/?p=315#comment-80293</guid>
		<description>If an individual wants to invest money, and does it willingly, knowing the terms/risk of the investment, how is it your &quot;JOB&quot; &quot;BUSINESS&quot; to tell them not to do it???

Where were you when I bought that 430K House for 350K right before the market shifted and I ended up losing 10K in the deal, how come you were not letting me know of the downside to a what look like a Great Deal.... oh, because it is Real Estate....OK...... Real Estate is not a business venture where you buy in up front with the hope of future equities based off projected performance...got it!!  

I should give you my money and let you decide what moves to make.... because Droobli must have it all wrong...

What company would pay out dividends/commissions off of performance and profitability... Stupid idea Droobli</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If an individual wants to invest money, and does it willingly, knowing the terms/risk of the investment, how is it your &#8220;JOB&#8221; &#8220;BUSINESS&#8221; to tell them not to do it???</p>
<p>Where were you when I bought that 430K House for 350K right before the market shifted and I ended up losing 10K in the deal, how come you were not letting me know of the downside to a what look like a Great Deal&#8230;. oh, because it is Real Estate&#8230;.OK&#8230;&#8230; Real Estate is not a business venture where you buy in up front with the hope of future equities based off projected performance&#8230;got it!!  </p>
<p>I should give you my money and let you decide what moves to make&#8230;. because Droobli must have it all wrong&#8230;</p>
<p>What company would pay out dividends/commissions off of performance and profitability&#8230; Stupid idea Droobli</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

